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	<title>Comments on: Preparing for the Rule 5 draft (part one)</title>
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		<title>By: GreenBeret7</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/12/preparing-for-the-rule-5-draft-part-one/comment-page-4/#comment-1153340</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenBeret7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those that missed the totals from the AFL yesterday:

Brandon Laird: 2-5 with a double (6) and a 2 run homer (6).  He&#039;s hitting .321 with a league tying 24 RBI and 2nd in homers.

Kennedy got knocked around in 4.1 innings.  7 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 4 strikeouts.

Dunn was racked up in .2 innings for 2 hits, 3 runs (earned), 1 walk, 2 strikeouts, 1 homer allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those that missed the totals from the AFL yesterday:</p>
<p>Brandon Laird: 2-5 with a double (6) and a 2 run homer (6).  He&#8217;s hitting .321 with a league tying 24 RBI and 2nd in homers.</p>
<p>Kennedy got knocked around in 4.1 innings.  7 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 4 strikeouts.</p>
<p>Dunn was racked up in .2 innings for 2 hits, 3 runs (earned), 1 walk, 2 strikeouts, 1 homer allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: ty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice read on DeJesus Tom. I am a real fan of his and realize that he is one of the few potential players who could replace Damon&#039;s skill set and would more than likely improve his numbers with Tex and Arod behind him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice read on DeJesus Tom. I am a real fan of his and realize that he is one of the few potential players who could replace Damon&#8217;s skill set and would more than likely improve his numbers with Tex and Arod behind him.</p>
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		<title>By: champ809</title>
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		<dc:creator>champ809</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His diminished velocity was mainly due to him throwing more two seamers and fewer four seamers as Joba himself said..as far as the slider it&#039;s a &quot;feel&quot; pitch in the &#039;pen Joba is strictly 4 seam fastball/slider pitcher so you see consistantly higher velo readings and a sharper slider.

as a starter the Yanks had him throwing more 2 seamers and pitching more to contact in an effort to keep his pitch count down-hence the 92-92mph fastballs- and also he was mixing in his curve,change and even a cutter into his repertoire and lost some &quot;feel&quot; for the slider...i think that with Joba if he continues to work on command and feel for all his pitches on any given day he should stick with the 3 best that he has and he&#039;ll be dominant...in my mind he&#039;s a 4seam fastball/Curve/slider guy throwing the occasional change to the lefty and only throwing the 2seamer if he&#039;s in a jam and needs a doubleplay..but again this is all part of development...and as an aside i doubt very seriously you watched everyone of King Felix&#039;s 2006 starts to know if he had his good stuff when he struggled through that season</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His diminished velocity was mainly due to him throwing more two seamers and fewer four seamers as Joba himself said..as far as the slider it&#8217;s a &#8220;feel&#8221; pitch in the &#8216;pen Joba is strictly 4 seam fastball/slider pitcher so you see consistantly higher velo readings and a sharper slider.</p>
<p>as a starter the Yanks had him throwing more 2 seamers and pitching more to contact in an effort to keep his pitch count down-hence the 92-92mph fastballs- and also he was mixing in his curve,change and even a cutter into his repertoire and lost some &#8220;feel&#8221; for the slider&#8230;i think that with Joba if he continues to work on command and feel for all his pitches on any given day he should stick with the 3 best that he has and he&#8217;ll be dominant&#8230;in my mind he&#8217;s a 4seam fastball/Curve/slider guy throwing the occasional change to the lefty and only throwing the 2seamer if he&#8217;s in a jam and needs a doubleplay..but again this is all part of development&#8230;and as an aside i doubt very seriously you watched everyone of King Felix&#8217;s 2006 starts to know if he had his good stuff when he struggled through that season</p>
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		<title>By: Tom in N.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom in N.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read on DeJesus:

&quot;over the last three seasons, DeJesus has been practically equal in value to Hunter (whose overrated-ness is seriously underrated) and Damon (just plain overrated); DeJesus has been more valuable than Ethier and Jason “Do People Seriously Think I’m Anywhere Close to as Good as Matt Holliday?” Bay. All five are good, but would DeJesus ever be offered a 5/$90M deal? Would his agent ever compare him to Derek Jeter? Would anyone bother comparing DeJesus to Holliday? Would you take anyone seriously who said that “Ethier is a fourth outfielder on a good team?”



http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dejesus-and-daytons-destiny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read on DeJesus:</p>
<p>&#8220;over the last three seasons, DeJesus has been practically equal in value to Hunter (whose overrated-ness is seriously underrated) and Damon (just plain overrated); DeJesus has been more valuable than Ethier and Jason “Do People Seriously Think I’m Anywhere Close to as Good as Matt Holliday?” Bay. All five are good, but would DeJesus ever be offered a 5/$90M deal? Would his agent ever compare him to Derek Jeter? Would anyone bother comparing DeJesus to Holliday? Would you take anyone seriously who said that “Ethier is a fourth outfielder on a good team?”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dejesus-and-daytons-destiny" rel="nofollow">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....ns-destiny</a></p>
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		<title>By: thunderfangabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>thunderfangabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Ashmore has some video of Texeira on his blog: http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/
just scroll down and you&#039;ll see his links.  probably some articles on there too that i remember throughout the year that will talk about KT.

i was also at the games in NB at the end of the year and he come in in relief at the end of one game, but they got the better of him that night.  the next game he was called upon as well and he shut &#039;em down for more than one inning!!!  he is one of those guys that can just let it go and move on and want the ball the next day.  he threw a TON of innings this year (~100 to last season&#039;s ~60).  he can go one out or one inning, but he can also definitely go several at a time if needed.  that seems to make him valuable i would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Ashmore has some video of Texeira on his blog: <a href="http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/</a><br />
just scroll down and you&#8217;ll see his links.  probably some articles on there too that i remember throughout the year that will talk about KT.</p>
<p>i was also at the games in NB at the end of the year and he come in in relief at the end of one game, but they got the better of him that night.  the next game he was called upon as well and he shut &#8216;em down for more than one inning!!!  he is one of those guys that can just let it go and move on and want the ball the next day.  he threw a TON of innings this year (~100 to last season&#8217;s ~60).  he can go one out or one inning, but he can also definitely go several at a time if needed.  that seems to make him valuable i would think.</p>
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		<title>By: ty</title>
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		<dc:creator>ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stats can be deceptive with regard to Granderson. He walked 72 times in 631AB.By contrast Damon walked 71 times in 550AB and only had 98 SO as opposed to 141 SO for Granderson. Matsui had 64 BB in only 456 AB and only 70 SO. Seeing pitches only to eventually K does very little to help the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stats can be deceptive with regard to Granderson. He walked 72 times in 631AB.By contrast Damon walked 71 times in 550AB and only had 98 SO as opposed to 141 SO for Granderson. Matsui had 64 BB in only 456 AB and only 70 SO. Seeing pitches only to eventually K does very little to help the team.</p>
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		<title>By: lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins)</title>
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		<dc:creator>lets go yankees (formerly lets go twins)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless suddenly all players in the league that strike out a lot are the same players then the comparison of Soriano and Granderson are not at all alike.

Soriano walks half as much as Granderson and sees much less pitches per plate attempt. Granderson is also a superior defender while Soriano is a below average defender. Yeah,so aside from the SO, they are not similar at all. 

Granderson had one bad OBP year. You do not judge players based on one season. The two seasons before he had OBP in the 360s. Soriano&#039;s highest career OBP was .351.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless suddenly all players in the league that strike out a lot are the same players then the comparison of Soriano and Granderson are not at all alike.</p>
<p>Soriano walks half as much as Granderson and sees much less pitches per plate attempt. Granderson is also a superior defender while Soriano is a below average defender. Yeah,so aside from the SO, they are not similar at all. </p>
<p>Granderson had one bad OBP year. You do not judge players based on one season. The two seasons before he had OBP in the 360s. Soriano&#8217;s highest career OBP was .351.</p>
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		<title>By: vin</title>
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		<dc:creator>vin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Joba’s line last year his first full year is very similar and the fans are calling him a bust,want him moved to the pen or traded which is just stupid.&quot;

No, stupid fans and sports talk hosts who need to fill 4 hours a day are calling him a &quot;bust.&quot;  

I know what you&#039;re saying on this issue, and I agree that it may SEEM difficult to bring along a young pitcher in NY vs. Seattle.  However, Hughes was handed a spot in the rotation at 21.  Joba was handed his at 22.  

Both guys missed development time because of injuries, not because of the &quot;NY pressure cooker.&quot;  2010 will be big for these guys.

On one hand I&#039;d feel more comfortable if another starter was brought in to replace CMW because these last few years of Jeter/Mo/Posada/Andy&#039;s careers need to be win-now.  However, I really hope Joba and Phil get the chance to start for the entire year and succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Joba’s line last year his first full year is very similar and the fans are calling him a bust,want him moved to the pen or traded which is just stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, stupid fans and sports talk hosts who need to fill 4 hours a day are calling him a &#8220;bust.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I know what you&#8217;re saying on this issue, and I agree that it may SEEM difficult to bring along a young pitcher in NY vs. Seattle.  However, Hughes was handed a spot in the rotation at 21.  Joba was handed his at 22.  </p>
<p>Both guys missed development time because of injuries, not because of the &#8220;NY pressure cooker.&#8221;  2010 will be big for these guys.</p>
<p>On one hand I&#8217;d feel more comfortable if another starter was brought in to replace CMW because these last few years of Jeter/Mo/Posada/Andy&#8217;s careers need to be win-now.  However, I really hope Joba and Phil get the chance to start for the entire year and succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
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		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vin 
November 12th, 2009 at 1:05 pm 
“Why trade for Granderson when you could just sign Mike Cameron? Cameron’s a little older, but they are about same player and the commitment to Cameron would probably be a lot less.”

I’m down with this plan.

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we are at least as good with cameron for a year &amp; maybe ajax takes off &amp; solves a lot

also ajax will be under control for years for pennies

that is the tough thing cashman has to decide

why not sign damon,cameron,etc &amp; keep our kids until a better more permanent solution comes along?

as long as our pitching is good we are fine

would anybody trade joba,ajax,montero for king felix &amp; is that enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vin<br />
November 12th, 2009 at 1:05 pm<br />
“Why trade for Granderson when you could just sign Mike Cameron? Cameron’s a little older, but they are about same player and the commitment to Cameron would probably be a lot less.”</p>
<p>I’m down with this plan.</p>
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<p>we are at least as good with cameron for a year &amp; maybe ajax takes off &amp; solves a lot</p>
<p>also ajax will be under control for years for pennies</p>
<p>that is the tough thing cashman has to decide</p>
<p>why not sign damon,cameron,etc &amp; keep our kids until a better more permanent solution comes along?</p>
<p>as long as our pitching is good we are fine</p>
<p>would anybody trade joba,ajax,montero for king felix &amp; is that enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Erica - always OPPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica - always OPPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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