I didn’t mean to be cruel …
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… by including Sergio Mitre news in a thread about the Cy Young award. I can see how that might have weirded some people out.
For those who asked, the option on Mitre was $1.25 million so the Yankees were just making a fiscal decision in declining. Mitre is arbitration-eligible and, if I were betting, will probably be back with the Yankees at least for spring training.
By the way, the Yankees have four other arbitration decisions to make. They are:
1. Melky Cabrera (clearly gets offered)
2. Brian Bruney (probably gets offered)
3. Chad Gaudin (probably gets offered)
4. Chien-Ming Wang (almost certainly doesn’t get offered)
Remember that Brian Cashman wants to go into spring training with as many pitchers as possible, and Gaudin and Mitre offer cheap depth. Bruney would probably be right around his 2009 salary ($1.25 million) and he can fill in the bullpen spots that should be vacated by Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain. Wang, on the other hand, is a likely non-tender since he made $5 million last season. Sad is it is for the “Ace in America” crowd, Wang may well be done in New York.
The deadline for the Yankees to decide is Dec. 12.
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So you’re saying that Sergio Mitre DIDN’T win the Cy Young?
The voters should be ashamed.
Hopefully they correct it with Cody Ransom and the MVP voting
$1.25 for Bruney seems high for an average middle reliever…
I would think someone from Scranton could take his role for $400,000
Sam -
I’m not giving up on Wang being back. Not until it’s there in virtual black & white.
I know there’s all sorts of handwriting on the wall and such, but…
Doreen –
That’s fair. After all, I co-wrote a book about the guy, so obviously I think he has talent. I’m just not sure the stars are aligned for him in NY anymore.
Sam,
Any indication on what he’s thinking? Is he annoyed with Yankee front office people after the arbitration hearing?
thanks
Wang’s situation/decline is sad. I really like(d) that guy, and I wish him well wherever he ends up. Who knows what all happened, in his head and in his body, but it was clearly significant.
Wang could help the team of he could get back to throwing sinkers instead of sttaighters. How much would it likely cost to bring him back?
It’s funny how things work.
Just imagine how many more games, and how much more dominant we would have looked in the WS would Wang have been not hurt? It’s absolutely unbelievable.
Uncle Ellsworth (much Adieu about nothing)
November 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Do you have to guess the dish or is the type/cuisine enough?
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Sam -
I’m not giving up on Wang being back. Not until it’s there in virtual black & white.
I know there’s all sorts of handwriting on the wall and such, but…
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Doreen-I completely agree. I would love to see them work something out with Wang, even though it doesn’t seem like they’re going to.
Black Taco?
With Phil and Joba in the rotation and cc and AJ and Andy, there is just not enough room for Wang for 5 million.
It’s unlikely that another team will give Wang a major league deal. So the Yanks will have a chance to bring him back (if they want to) on a minor league deal.
there are a lot of Taiwanese/Chinese in the world.
Jerkface, I never said Cano was lazy. You’re putting words into my mouth. I said he can be lazy at times.
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Look at what you are saying here. “I’m not saying he is lazy! I’m just saying that he is lazy…”
Thats my point. You have nothing to go on other than your belief that he bails on plays, regardless of how much you like Cano. And I was never criticizing you specifically for calling Cano lazy, I merely used it as an example of unfounded criticism that fans participate in and why I don’t trust most fans opinions on anyhing.
Cano wasn’t even benched for being lazy, he was benched for being terrible at getting a hit. One of the most impressive aspects of 2008 was cano not taking his bad hitting into the field with him and it was even talked about by the YES announcers.
Once again, I merely brought up Cano, Melky vs Gardner as examples of situations where fans will lie or make up stuff to try and make an argument or win a debate even for players of their own team.
it was your position that fans would not lie about their own team, which is obviously not the case. many fans will lie positively or negatively even unknowingly. And I’d rather call it unknowingly lying than “idiocy” or being naive or something that I’m sure everyone would get up in arms about.
I thought we already got bruney back at $1.5 million?
He also compared holliday to giambi. He just says stuff with nothing to back it up
It is clear that Wang’s foot injury caused him to alter his delivery, which lead to his arm injury. Too many pitchers have traveled that path and very few came back. I hope Wang can defy the odds. I do think that it is too early for the Yankees to cut ties with Wang. He does deserve another chance….19 game winners do not grow on trees and if there is a glimmer of hope that he can be successful in the Bronx than the team needs to resign him.
A healthy Wang is a #3 starter behind CC and AJ, leaving 4/5 for Hughes and Joba. This could be our rotation by August of 2010. Nice to dream about as the weather turns cold. 89 days until pitchers and catchers report to Tampa.
Chicken burrito!!!!!!!!!
Well, if Wang isn’t back here in NY, I wish him well wherever he ends up. And, if he doesn’t end up in NY, I hope it was his choice.
If Wang doesn’t come back Nick and Pat M each owe me $25
Uncle Ellsworth, I answered your question on the last thread. And by guessing a Taco Bell product (or is it Jack in the Box?) you are disqualified for this round. Thanks for playing.
power corrupts!
If the Yankees offer Wang arbritration, wouldn’t they win the case based on his numbers the last 2 years? Is there a minimum above what he made last year that they must offer? Like 10%. I see it as a relatively low-money gamble if you could have him back at 5.5M. If they don’t offer, I don’t see any way he would come back under any circumstances. they have paid him for 1 1/2 years to do nothing anyway, might as well keep him around this year to see if he can rebound.
I know they didn’t have this kind of choice with Pavano, but they paid him 40M to do even less. Show some loyalty, the reward for it will come in the second half and 2011.
Someone will offer wang a major league contract, especially if there is hope he is back by may/june
Congratulations, Erica, you are the winner of GWNHFDLN.
I had a (red sauce) chicken burrito from the La Corneta taqueria located on Diamond Street in San Francisco’s remote Glen Park district.
Thanks to both/all players.
SO the game is one guess and you are out or am I out because I “guessed” black taco? Which could be taken as na insult to your tastebuds.
My real guess was sushi.
Sorry …. just can’t see another year of Bruney. Include him as part of a package in a deal.
So hints are allowed too?!
Foul on the Fowl I say!
How much will Mitre get in arb?
Mitre would have had a lot better results if he could just field his position. There must have been at least 3 different games where he threw away a double play ball.
Hope Yankees and Wang can work something out.
Bruney hasn’t shown much. His fastball looks straight and he walks a lot of batters.
Nick in SF
November 17th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Congratulations, Erica, you are the winner of GWNHFDLN.
I had a (red sauce) chicken burrito from the La Corneta taqueria located on Diamond Street in San Francisco’s remote Glen Park district.
Thanks to both/all players.
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Yummmmmmmmmm… good choice Nick.
Mark, If I’m the Yankees, no way I offer Wang 5.5 million – not even close. If he’s back at all next year, it will be in the 2nd half…..and I seriously doubt he will be back to what he was. There’s a reason why the Yankees didn’t extend him…You can kill them for botching his rehab, but the guy did have an injury history going back. This is a business. IMO, the Yankees should try to get Wang back on a minor league deal – I’d like to see him stay with the team and try to make it back (and we did pay Lieber a year to sit). That said, they don’t owe him anything and Wang doesn’t owe the Yanks anything. I hope he’s not upset about arbitration, but if he is, he needs to get over it – that’s business.
I am not interested in Bruney at all. He’s not healthy, he’s not that good and I don’t like his attitiude.
Uncle Ellsworth, there is no strict limit on the number of guesses or a set time limit. This might be the first time there was more than one player.
In this case, it wasn’t the incorrect guess that disqualified you, it was the guess itself. An insult, yes.
If there was such a game as GWNHFDTNA (and the T stood for 3 and not 2), your guess would be partially correct, as I finally had my World Series celebratory ramen/sushi dinner at Katana-Ya.
Sorry, this is all silly and sooooo off-topic.
maybe bruney gets back to where he was last april.
Nick in SF
November 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Uncle Ellsworth, there is no strict limit on the number of guesses or a set time limit. This might be the first time there was more than one player.
In this case, it wasn’t the incorrect guess that disqualified you, it was the guess itself. An insult, yes.
If there was such a game as GWNHFDTNA (and the T stood for 3 and not 2), your guess would be partially correct, as I finally had my World Series celebratory ramen/sushi dinner at Katana-Ya.
Sorry, this is all silly and sooooo off-topic.
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The topic is the future of Sergio Mitre. I think that redeems you.
And its my fault. But this was my first GWNHFDLN victory….
And again you’re putting words into my mouth.
Jerkface, it’s pointless. You win, everyone else is lieing.
I just read the thread about Mike Scioscia’s comments. Mike, put the crack pipe down!!! You don’t even know what your 25 man roster is going to look like, yet you’re predicting a win over the defending champs? Say no to drugs, dude!
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Rex Hudler fits in to this somewhere
I like Bruney he was the 8th inning guy and did a good job before he got hurt. He struggled with his command after coming off the dl and still finished the season with a under 4 era. I would bring him back with Chamberlain and Hughes most likely in the rotation. You can have Robertson/Marte depending on the matchups pitch the 8th and you have Bruney, Coke, Aceves in middle relief. That is a good bullpen.
Melancon and Dunn haven’t showed that they are major league ready to just give them spots right out of spring training. They are kind of similar to what Robertson did this year. They will probably start in scranton next year and then come up some time during the season for good.
Bruney got no love from the fans at City Hall so his time has come. I’m over him. As for CMW, like most, I hope he comes back. But mark my words, if we don’t take him, somebody else will.
“Sorry, this is all silly and sooooo off-topic.”
true yet more entertaining than the rest here.
Personally I’d like to know what Doreen is making for dinner.
And again you’re putting words into my mouth.
Jerkface, it’s pointless. You win, everyone else is lieing.
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You’re lying about me winning! How did I put words in your mouth? Look at what you typed. You said Cano is lazy! Lazy sometimes is still lazy. You also did say that fans would not lie about their own team.
Verlander’s first-place Cy Young vote was cast by Steve Kornacki of Booth Newspapers in Michigan.
I know that this is off topic, but I am still laughing my a## off about the comments made by the manager of the LAA of AAAAA. What a joke. Next year? Hey Mike, next year the Yankees will sweep the Angels in the ALCS.
Sam, regarding the players you mentioned above, I think it’s safe to say that interest in what happens to Chien-ming Wang is the most intense.
I doubt anyone who knows anything is talking or even if any decisions have been made, but it would be great to get updates on:
1) Whether or not there are negotiations underway between the Yankees and Wang;
2) The effect of Dr. Andrews’ latest prognosis on the Yankees’ thinking;
3) How the Taiwan media is covering this story;
4) any other angles there might be on this story.
Forget the Ace/not Ace stuff, the relationship between Wang, his country, and the Yankees might be unique in baseball and I think that makes this question go beyond a simple one of whether the Yanks try to bring back a pitcher with Wang’s history.
This blog has a good number of readers in Taiwan. If it’s possible, this might be a good time to reach out to them to get their perspective and perhaps to get tidbits of news/analysis from there.
Ecaxtly Nick
The Wang implications are Global – as we’ve discussed before.
Laura • Bring back Matsui in 2010!
November 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Bruney got no love from the fans at City Hall so his time has come. I’m over him. As for CMW, like most, I hope he comes back. But mark my words, if we don’t take him, somebody else will.
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Just because “Bruney got no love from fan” doesn’t mean they’re going to dump him. There’s a lot of fans with the baseball IQ of one. He may be included in a trade, but, they aren’t giving him away for trash. Perhaps people can come up with a reasonable replacement that doesn’t cost 2+ mil a year for 3 years.
Now would be the time when I would usually link to my 2007 ‘Yankee fans in Taiwan’ photo essay, but I can’t ‘cos I’m on my blackberry.
If the plan is for Hughes and Joba to be starters (and I believe it is), then Bruney will be back next year.
Alex
November 17th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Verlander’s first-place Cy Young vote was cast by Steve Kornacki of Booth Newspapers in Michigan.
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Will we be saying the same thing next week in the AL MVP vote only switching Verlander, Steve Kornacki and Booth Newspapers with Youkilis, You Know Who, and You Know Who’s Newspaper (I tried writing the name and newspaper and got filtered out)
When Bruney was healthy in 2008 and this past season he did a really good job. I think the reason why fans don’t like him is cause he says some things he probably shouldn’t say when there’s a microphone in his face.
If Cashman doesn’t bring him back, I think it will have a lot to do with him not being honest about his injuries and rehab. Cashman definitely wasn’t happy about that.
After Tommy John surgery, pitchers get stronger and better. Maybe Mitre is the Cy Young next year ! 21 wins !
betsy
November 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I am not interested in Bruney at all. He’s not healthy, he’s not that good and I don’t like his attitiude.
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LOL…betsy, as my dad would say “tell us how you really feel”
Sometimes is sometimes. Sometimes isn’t always.
Sometimes I have two sugars in my coffee. That doesn’t mean I have two sugars in my coffee every day. It just means on occasion I like to have a sweet cup.
Bruney may have control issues from time to time, but, in 4 years with NYY he has an ERA of 3.25. There aren’t that many middle relievers that can claim that. Add to the fact that he’s still only 28 years old in February of 2010, and that’s a lot of years left. Amazing that people still fondly remember who was worse than Bruney.
On a serious note, you threw everything at me including the race card to prove my “lie”.
So, there’s really no point.
You’re winning about me lying!
anyone think Boston will make a significant push for Roy Halladay?
They have to know, if they get involved then Cashman will get involved. Theo started that stuff with the Santana trade talks 2yrs ago, now Cashman will get the final word
Curious did Justin get any bonus’s for getting one vote in the cy young?
just to tick you off though:
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....cano-9620/
Amazing that people still fondly remember ***Jeff Nelson*** who was worse than Bruney.
Sometimes is sometimes. Sometimes isn’t always.
Sometimes I have two sugars in my coffee. That doesn’t mean I have two sugars in my coffee every day. It just means on occasion I like to have a sweet cup.
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Then I contend that every player on the yankees is sometimes lazy. And as such Cano should henceforth never be referred to as lazy, unless an equally lazy play is also cited for one of his teammates.
It’s very easy to say get rid of Bruney but harder to say who the better alternative is.
I’ve stuck with Bruney for the last 2 years and he’s paid dividends in spots so I can’t quit him now.
You can do whatever you want and when someone else doesn’t agree with you.. you can throw the race card at them too!
GB, One thing is for certain, we all know how good Brian Bruney can be when he’s healthy….After all the bumps & bruises he sustained in 09, he should get a partial pass and start anew in February……If the club really plans on having both Joba & Young Master Hughes in the rotation when camp breaks ( I don’t see this to be true ) then Bruney & Robertson are being slotted for 8th inning role……Beware of Jerkface today, he’s chewing nails today…..I still hope that the rumored Granderson / Edwin Jackson deal has some legs….
pat -
I agree with you on Bruney. He’s not bad enough to get rid of. And good enough just enough to be worth keeping.
All that article suggests is that Cano has athleticism but lacks fundamentals. That != lazy. Too many fans try to attach a narrative to everything they watch when there are simple explinations for things.
The ’scouting report’ listed in the article says paraphrased: “cano has good range, and a good arm, can make difficult plays, sometimes botches easy plays by mistiming his stab or hurrying it.”
and then a real quote: “He also can seem lackadaisical.” This is a scout watching, which is the same as any fan, commenting on Cano being lackadaisical. Why? He knows nothing of Canos motivations or how much effort he is exerting.
I put no stock in that. And it does not tick me off that articles like that are written.
GB
Some people prefered Ransom playing 3B rather than Rodriguez so fondly remembering Nelson seems par.
If anyone was offended by my “Congratulations to Robinson Cano for winning the Silver Slacker Award!!!” joke of a few days ago, you have my apologies.
If anyone was offended by my “Congratulations to Tim Lincecum for winning the Silver Spliffer award!!!” joke, I apologize too though I have to ask why.
If anyone is offended that I’m making fake apologies to recycle old jokes, I ask for understanding; in’s late November and Winter Rules apply.
You can do whatever you want and when someone else doesn’t agree with you.. you can throw the race card at them too!
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Its merely my opinion and an observation that white players are rarely called lazy while ethnic plays are often called lazy.
No one calls Teixeira lazy for bailing on ground balls to his right all the time. Its probably because Cano is so fluid and has so much range he can get to those balls.
Its certainly not because he is lazy.
Players deserve fair shakes is all I ask from Yankee fans. Kill the other team but give a yankee a fair shake. Nick Swisher got KILLED on this board for his mistakes/weaknesses as a player but everyone was able to see how hard he worked on improving his game and most came around on him.
Pat M.
November 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
GB, One thing is for certain, we all know how good Brian Bruney can be when he’s healthy….After all the bumps & bruises he sustained in 09, he should get a partial pass and start anew in February……If the club really plans on having both Joba & Young Master Hughes in the rotation when camp breaks ( I don’t see this to be true ) then Bruney & Robertson are being slotted for 8th inning role……Beware of Jerkface today, he’s chewing nails today…..I still hope that the rumored Granderson / Edwin Jackson deal has some legs….
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I’d like to see NYY pick both up too, but, it depends on the cost. As much as I like McCutchen, Pena and some of the other kids, I’d include them if that’s what it takes. I’m hoping that NYY can keep Austin Jackson, though. I have no idea what Detroit wants, other than salary relief. I wonder if NYY takes on Inge’s contract and deals him for prospects to flip if that would work?
Nick
Who got the Silver Spoon award?
Nick
Who got the Silver Spoon award?
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Phil Hughes no doubt.
I’d like to see NYY pick both up too, but, it depends on the cost. As much as I like McCutchen, Pena and some of the other kids, I’d include them if that’s what it takes
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McCutchen is no longer in the NYY system
pat; are you trying to set me up for a Phil Hughes joke???
Young Master Philip owns that award, of course.
Didn’t McCutchen just finish in the top 5 or so for NL ROY?
you guys are messing up your Mc’s.
McCutchen the elder went to pittsburgh to join McCutchen the younger, who was robbed of the rookie of the year by someone who doesn’t even have an Mc in their last name. McCallister, alphabetically and empirically better than McCutchen the elder, plays for the New York Yankees minor league teams.
Or is a soon to be member of the Detroit Tigers.
I was too lazy/dishonest to keep my McCutchens straight.
“are you trying to set me up for a Phil Hughes joke”
Just trying to help.
My mistake. It’s not McCutchen, but, McAllister that I was referring to.
Congrats to you all for winning the Silver Slipup award?
Bruney would probably be right around his 2009 salary ($1.25 million) and he can fill in the bullpen spots that should be vacated by Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain.
I’ll be very surprised if Bruney shows up anywhere near being able to fill in the bullpen spot the same way Phil Hughes did last season or Joba did in the post-season … I think I’m going to hold onto my Maalox. Sure he’s a warm body, but I think that’s about the only way he “fills in” the bullpen.
Bruney comes back. No way they give up on the 2009 Silver Slander award winner.
Erin, I don’t know any other way!
GB, I don’t think Bruney is untalented and I do respect how hard he worked in 2008 to even be able to pitch that season. I don’t honestly know if his struggles this year had to do with his health (if that’s the case, the Yankees should beware…….) or just his overall inconsistency. I think he believes he’s better than he is and I definitely go the impression he thought he was entitled to the 8th inning spot. He was left off the ALCS roster for a reason …I just didn’t like the way he handled it. I admit, I’m not expecting much from him next year; first thing he needs to do is eat a little humble pie.
i also dont want to sound cruel and unusual but watching wang pitch this year was painful. I know he was hurt but if he doesnt want to take an incentive based contract let him go pitch somewhere else. He was batting practice this year.
I don’t understand why everyone expects the Yankees to refrain from offering Wang arbitration.
By all accounts, the guy is doing very well health-wise right now. Dr. Andrews said he was progressing better than expected. Also, keep in mind, the surgery he got was not a major shoulder surgery.
Right now there’s talk that he will be ready to pitch on June 1. If we are being conservative, lets say he can pitch for half a season. Now, he made $5 million last year and the rule is, the offer for this year must be at least 80% of last year. That means the Yanks could pay him $4 million in 2010.
If Wang can come back to full strength mid-year and pitch like his old self from that point onwards, isn’t that worth $4 million? Geez that’s how much Marte is getting paid this year.
I say, offer Wang arb, $4 mill is a drop in the bucket for the Yanks.
No one calls Teixeira lazy because he has 3 gold gloves and he runs out everything.
No one calls Arod lazy either or Posada or Molina.
Some called Cabrera lazy but that had to with him partying to 3am in the morning on game nights.
The race aspect is in your head.
A scientist cuts off a frog’s leg and then tells it to “jump.” The frog hops and the scientist makes a note that it moved. The scientist cuts off a second leg and repeats the command and the frog moves. Duly noted. After cutting off the third leg, the scientist gives the same command and the frog moves again. Finally the scientist cuts off the last leg and tells the frog to “jump.” When the frog doesn’t move, the scientist writes down: “frog with no legs deaf.”
Maybe the reason that the statistics seem to show Cano having very different years in 2008 and 2009 is because defensive metrics are too flawed for making meaningful comparisons. Either that or, as in the case of our scientist above, the wrong conclusions are being drawn from the observed data.
In the AFL today:
Colin Curtis was 2-4 with 2 runs scored, 2 RBI (16), 1 stolen base (3), 1 walk, 1 strikeout and a home run (4).
Ian Kennedy: 5 innings, 5 hits, 1 run (earned) 0 walks, 5 strikeouts. 66 pitches, 50 strikes, 16 balls. 5 groundouts, 5 flyouts.
Brandon Laird didn’t play.
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Doreen’s got to be tickled pinstriped.
Have not seen GF or murphydog in a while….
Giuseppe, hope you’re doing well and back at home.
murphydog, hope you figured out what was wrong and the pup is doing better.
“Some called Cabrera lazy but that had to with him partying to 3am in the morning on game nights. ”
Proof?
There was nothing in the papers about this. Just some guy on a blog somewhere talking about how a friend of a friend saw Melky and Cano at a club one night.
Also who cares if they party? Jeter was notorious for hitting the clubs, heck they created an entire ad campaign about it. Nobody ever called him lazy.
I’m not sure why some fans call Cano and Melky lazy. Maybe because they smile all the time and look like they are having fun? Maybe race has something to do with it? I have no clue, it’s just silly and misplaced.
Betsy, coming out of Spring Training, Bruney did earn the right to the 8th inning. He lost it when he was hurt. I never liked the idea of a guy losing his job because of injury, but, Giardi had to let Hughes keep the 8th inning after Bruney returned. It stinks, but, the team is first. I wouldn’t want Bruney to like it, but, he still did the job he was assigned. Most likely, he’s always going to have wild streaks, but, he’s also going to have long streaks of being lights out. NYY isn’t going to find better for cheaper. Melancon and Dunn have proven nothing. at this time, Bruney is one of the 4 best Yankee relievers. He’s better than Marte, or, at least, until Marte proves differently. He hasn’t yet, except for the post season. NYY has had that before, in 1996 with Grahme Lloyd and David Weathers. They stunk before the post season, and they stunk after the post season. Only weathers…with other teams, years later.
GB7 -
I am certainly ticked pinstripe!
I was talking to my husband about Curtis yesterday. He was impressed with him as well, but he’s a lot more pragmatic than I am. He thinks I’m rushing my expectations of him just a bit. That may be so.
“Also, keep in mind, the surgery he got was not a major shoulder surgery. ”
You’re a pitcher, and you’ve had surgery twice on the same shoulder.
Not exactly sure how that can be construed as not major surgery.
I like Wang, and certainly think he should be kept around. However I can understand if the Yankees decide that he won’t be the same and don’t offer him a contract.
* tickled, not ticked.
GB, I’m definitely with you on Dunn and Melancon. If Marte is healthy, he’s probably better than Bruney, but we shall see…..
Patrick, I don’t see any way Wang is his old self this year – and any surgery is major, especially on the shoulder.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
* tickled, not ticked.
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LMAO. Be careful. I’m contagious.
The Yankees need to find a way to bring Wang back. I believe this for 3 reasons:
1. The history/ability reason- Wang had the ability, and I believe with proper work will have the ability again. At his core he is a very good pitcher, and the Yankees need to work with him to help him get it back.
2. The business reason- If Wang does get his ability back, he will be a valuable asset, and at a relatively cheap price at this point.
3. The responsibility reason- the Yankees are in part responsible for his problem(s)- a) they should have worked with him more/better when he was coming back from the ankle injury; b) they should have known he wasn’t ready (weak hips or whatever) at the start of last season; c) they should have kept him in the minors longer when he was rehabbing
4. The human reason- Wang is a good teammate, and a good guy to have around. If he can get his ability back, he is a positive influence in the clubhouse.
GB7 -
Sigh. Apparently so.
I’m watching Paula Deen make green beans unhealthy. That woman has some serious issues. She tried to sell the idea that a pear fritter was healthy. She has a kids cookbook that has sugar-packed muffins as a breakfast food and again, tries to sell it as healthy. She never met a stick of butter she wouldn’t eat whole. And she gets away with it ’cause she has a sweet southern accent. Man. It’s really a wonder the south couldn’t win the Civil War.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
GB7 -
I am certainly ticked pinstripe!
I was talking to my husband about Curtis yesterday. He was impressed with him as well, but he’s a lot more pragmatic than I am. He thinks I’m rushing my expectations of him just a bit. That may be so.
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I agree. He’s most likely a #4 outfielder or a Melky clone. Like others, I’m hoping that this is a sign of things to come, but, it is a hitter’s league. On the other hand, Kennedy got in some valuable innings and many were quality.
Very few walks and a lot of strikeouts.
29.2 innings, 30 hits, 15 runs, 14 earned, 5 walks, 28 strikeouts.
7 starts and only 1 homer allowed. That’s very encouraging.
Doreen, her place in Savannah is now considered a tourist trap – the wait is apparently hours and she’s almost never there. You want good old southern food? Go to Mrs Wilkes’ Boarding House……..man, I walked into that place and the table was filled with bowls of black eyed peas, mashed potatoes, apples, cabbage, butter beans, pickled beets, sweet potatoes,…….and on and on (plus the best fried chicken I’ve ever had). I don’t care if it’s healthy – it was so darn amazing.
GB, IPK may have only given up 1 HR, but the hits and runs allowed don’t look so hot……….then again, he is recovering from aneurysm surgery.
GB7 -
A nice line for IPK. Good low walks. He’s got to be tiring a bit about now, dontcha think? How much longer does AFL last?
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I’m watching Paula Deen make green beans unhealthy. That woman has some serious issues. She tried to sell the idea that a pear fritter was healthy. She has a kids cookbook that has sugar-packed muffins as a breakfast food and again, tries to sell it as healthy. She never met a stick of butter she wouldn’t eat whole. And she gets away with it ’cause she has a sweet southern accent. Man. It’s really a wonder the south couldn’t win the Civil War.
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Doesn’t she play Mrs. Butterton in the “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter” commercials?
“Not exactly sure how that can be construed as not major surgery. ”
When the surgery isn’t actually a serious one?
Yeah it’s not good that he’s had 2 shoulder surgeries but the most recent one was just an arthoscopic deal. Really not an invasive surgery and more easily rehabbed compared to other shoulder injuries.
That’s just medical fact, I don’t know what else to say about it. This injury was lower risk than the majority of shoulder injuries.
Betsy -
I don’t necessarily care that it’s not healthy. There’s definitely a place for luxurious foods. I just don’t like that she’s so coy about her claims that the food is at all healthy. Those pear fritters? She was serving them with ice cream. And she made deep-fried cheesecake!
If I ever get to Savannah (had been hoping for last summer, but perhaps next August – yeah, I know it’s hot, but that’s when my husband can take the lion’s share of his vacation time), I will probably pick yours and GB7’s brains once again. That spread at Mrs. Wilkes’ sounds fantastic!
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
GB7 -
A nice line for IPK. Good low walks. He’s got to be tiring a bit about now, dontcha think? How much longer does AFL last?
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That should be his last start. They won’t be in the AFL playoff that starts this weekend (I believe). He pitched about 53 innings this year combining Scranton, NYY and the AFL. He also had 11 innings during ST, so, it’s been a long season for him, considering the surgery and the months of pitching and rehab.
GB7-
Graeme Lloyd Yankees 1997-98…96 games, 86.2 innings, 81 Hits, 25 ER, 26 BB (9 INT), 56 K’s, 4 Wins, 1 Loss. 2.60 ERA
Hardly the numbers of a player who “stunk” outside of the post season.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Betsy -
I don’t necessarily care that it’s not healthy. There’s definitely a place for luxurious foods. I just don’t like that she’s so coy about her claims that the food is at all healthy. Those pear fritters? She was serving them with ice cream. And she made deep-fried cheesecake!
If I ever get to Savannah (had been hoping for last summer, but perhaps next August – yeah, I know it’s hot, but that’s when my husband can take the lion’s share of his vacation time), I will probably pick yours and ***GB7’s brains*** once again. That spread at Mrs. Wilkes’ sounds fantastic!
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Yeah!!! Good luck on your scavenger hunt there.
GB7 -
I’ll just go to the archives where you told Betsy all the good places to go!
scott/milbourne
November 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
GB7-
Graeme Lloyd Yankees 1997-98…96 games, 86.2 innings, 81 Hits, 25 ER, 26 BB (9 INT), 56 K’s, 4 Wins, 1 Loss. 2.60 ERA
Hardly the numbers of a player who “stunk” outside of the post season
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My screw-up. I remembered the 17.50 ERA before that, along with Weathers’ bad news games.
Mitre doesn’t offer depth. If he does, then so do I.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
GB7 -
I’ll just go to the archives where you told Betsy all the good places to go!
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You might talk to Dennis, also. He and Amy may go to places that would compare to your tastes more. I’ll be happy to help, though. When you get ready, I can link you to hotels, restareants and other sites. Just don’t mention my name if you want good service.
Thanks GB7.
The one think I learned is that if that’s in our vacation plans, we need to start making plans now.
Speak for yourself, GB, lol…..Doreen, my brain has to heal from all the times it’s already been picked. Don’t forget to go to Charleston – I liked Savannah a lot, but IMO, Charleston is the jewel of the south. I can’t rhapsodize about it enough, lol…
All the sports writers are speculating about the Yankees taking on low-risk small dollar 1 year deals to the likes of Harden and Sheets.
Dropping new names attracts attention to different columns but the Yankees organization rewards history and therefore is more likely to bring back Wang on a low risk deal over any other similar types outside the franchise.
If the Yankees retained Wang, it wouldn’t be big news since he’s already on the team. However, I would think he’s being even more strongly considered than the fancy names being mentioned on sports blogs and in newspaper articles lately.
Dennis and Amy were sooooooo helpful..
and GB is the best..
Just a theoretical because I am pretty sure KC would never do it.
Would you trade Hughes/Joba/AJax/Montero for Greinke?
No question that Charleston is a must see spot. If you’re there in August, you’ll be able to catch the Charleston Riverdogs at Joe Riley Park. Beautiful minor league park. Great bed and breakfast hotels, great food and sights to see. Make sure you reserve a U-Haul trailer to carry all of your new stuff.
YanksinCA
November 17th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Just a theoretical because I am pretty sure KC would never do it.
Would you trade Hughes/Joba/AJax/Montero for Greinke?
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I wouldn’t trade those 4 players for the entire Royals system…..unless they threw in Wal-Marts and Royals Stadium.
Would you trade Hughes/Joba/AJax/Montero for Greinke?
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No. You’re giving up 2 established major league pitchers and 2 top prospects for 1 guy.
1 of Hughes/Joba + Ajax/Montero/Someone would be more likely to happen from a Yankee point of view. Though I bet they’d try to talk em down to Romine/McCallister/whomever
No way Hughes and joba get traded for anyone in the same package
No way Hughes and joba get traded for anyone in the same package
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I agree but I can see one of them getting traded if the right deal comes along. It probably won’t since most teams must try to overtax the Yankees in trades in order to compensate for the Yanks advantage over them in free agent spending.
Just curious. Who would trade joba for Edwin Jackson straight up?
On the trade front…
I get the feeling Cashman is more likely to pull the trigger on a big trade now that he has a WS winner on his resume. He can afford to take bigger risks now than in the past and he happens to have a stockpile of minor league talent to package in trades for players far superior to this class of free agents.
Joba for Edwin Jackson, I’d have to say ‘no’. Edwin Jackson, at his least erratic is not much better than Joba at this young version of Justin Chamberlain. At Joba’s age, Edwin Jackson was considered a bust so the Dodgers shipped him over to TB for pennies on the dollar. Joba’s got more moxy and more command to work with from the start, so I think he’ll end up a better pitcher than Edwin Jackson.
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Edwin Jackson, at his least erratic is not much better than this young version of Justin Chamberlain.
Have not seen GF or murphydog in a while….
Giuseppe, hope you’re doing well and back at home.
murphydog, hope you figured out what was wrong and the pup is doing better.
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FYI-
GF pops in and out. Last update he was making progress and hoping to go home soon.
Murph’s last update about his wonderful dog indicated that after all consultations with the vet weren’t for a good prognosis, they’d decided the most humane and kind thing to do would be to put Murphy down.
I haven’t seen him since, but I haven’t been around much myself.
Just letting you know the updates as far as I’d last heard on both issues because you must have missed that last updates from both.
Jackson has had a very mediocre career up until the first 3/4 of this year. Not to say he can’t become the guy he was for the first 3/4, but I wouldn’t bet on it (I keep Joba).
I think Montero is going to be a special offensive player (defense is still to be determined). There aren’t too many players I would trade him for.
“No way Hughes and joba get traded for anyone in the same package”
I bet if Toronto would accept those two for Halladay, Cashman would pull the trigger on it.
I dont know how “established” Hughes and Joba are. They’ve still got a lot to prove before I would call them that.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I’m watching Paula Deen make green beans unhealthy. That woman has some serious issues. She tried to sell the idea that a pear fritter was healthy. She has a kids cookbook that has sugar-packed muffins as a breakfast food and again, tries to sell it as healthy. She never met a stick of butter she wouldn’t eat whole. And she gets away with it ’cause she has a sweet southern accent. Man. It’s really a wonder the south couldn’t win the Civil War.
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LOL. I thought I was the only person who found her “healthy” qualifications of her recipes a bit suspect. Delicious possibly, healthy .. umm 99% of the time hell NO! Its like calling a strawberry pop-tart healthy and one of the 5 food groups because it has strawberry in the name.
Anybody know what the most current ETA on montero is?
Angel – in an Empire State of mind. #27 has arrived!
November 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
LOL. I thought I was the only person who found her “healthy” qualifications of her recipes a bit suspect. Delicious possibly, healthy .. umm 99% of the time hell NO!
***Its like calling a strawberry pop-tart healthy and one of the 5 food groups because it has strawberry in the name.***
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Wait a minute. Has it confirmed that Strawberry Pop-Tarts aren’t healthy and not part of the 5 major food groups?
I’ve been lied to by the people that I trust most….TV advertisers.
i think most people are really missing the point on wang.
forget the injury and rehab. he’ll get healthy again.
the problem is he was never anything special without the nasty sinker.
it’s not likely he’ll be anything special in the future without the nasty sinker.
so how does he get the nasty sinker back?
i would think anyone coaching him would go back to basics and recreate how he got it in the first place ?
it didn’t take years to develop.
it was developed in a few weeks.
do that again and wang is back.
have some pitching coach instructing him who doesn’t know how it was done in the first place and wang is probably a AAAA starter and his career is likely over.
I dont know how “established” Hughes and Joba are. They’ve still got a lot to prove before I would call them that.
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Joba and Hughes have been in the majors for 3 years. Both have dominated in starting and relief, and though they have had growing pains, they have clearly shown an ability to get out major league hitters.
Kansas City won’t be demanding Youkilis + Pedroia from Boston
Strawberry Pop Tarts cover at least 3 of the 5 food groups if you consider the frosting a dairy product.
So the question of what to do with Wang has nothing to do with his shoulder surgery and questions about his recovery?
Yeesh.
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Couldn’t they deconstruct the technique from old video when he was healthy and the sinker was nasty? And then work from that?
Not as easy as just calling up the old coach (who is now employed elsewhere), maybe not as good, but could it be done?
Bronx Jeers
That is just too funny!
Not as easy as just calling up the old coach (who is now employed elsewhere), maybe not as good, but could it be done?
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We have the technology, we can rebuild him.
Here’s a pretty good article/interview following Ian Kennedy’s game in the AFL, today. He discusses his two new pitches, a cutter and a two-seam fastball with more movement and sink than his 4 seam fastball.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....p;c_id=nyy
randy l:
Wasn’t it Neil Allen – as a Coach in the Yankee System – who taught Wang how to throw that nasty sinker?
Unfortunately, I believe he is now a Pitching Coach for the Tampa Bay Rays.
He’s better than Marte, or, at least, until Marte proves differently.
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I do not know how you could possibly say Brian Bruney is better than Damaso Marte. Marte has been one of the best LHR in baseball since 2002. He had a couple of injuries last year and only pitched 13 innings. Wanna talk about SSS much? He has pitched 486 innings in his career and suddenly he is not proven based on 13 innings
Brian Bruney on the other hand has not proven anything except in very small samples. He has only pitched more than 40 innings in his career twice and in both those seasons he was bad. That 3.25 ERA is very misleading considering he has only pitched an average of 35 innings in his 4 seasons with the Yankees. Relievers that can be dominant over 20-30 inning samples are a dime a dozen. See Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez.
Basically, in conclusion Brian Bruney has never proved he can be a very good reliever over a significant period of time. Marte has done that many times. It is not even close.
Penalty on Doreen and triple penalty on TheCro for giving randy an unwarranted opportunity to expound on Neil Allen, Al Neilan, or anyone else who’s been fired by Briam Cashman, the evil pencil-pusher.
Bonus points for Jerkface for the 6 Million Dollar Man reference, however.
Just checking in to say (better late than never…) congrats to Zack Greinke. For what he’s been through, good for him more than ever.
About Andrew Bailey – well, I did have him on my fantasy team!
Hope all is well with everyone.
As ever, GO YANKEES!!!
GB7
You know, they say everything happens for a reason. Kennedy’s making the most of a pretty bad situation. Good for him.
“When the surgery isn’t actually a serious one?
Yeah it’s not good that he’s had 2 shoulder surgeries but the most recent one was just an arthoscopic deal. Really not an invasive surgery and more easily rehabbed compared to other shoulder injuries.
That’s just medical fact, I don’t know what else to say about it. This injury was lower risk than the majority of shoulder injuries.”
Sorry but, you can’t convince me that a pitcher who has surgery on his throwing surgery didn’t have major surgery.
I don’t care how minor arthroscopic surgery is medically.
Baseball wise, that’s a major surgery, considering the guy already had surgery on the shoulder before.
When Dr. Patrick’s diagnosis matches up with Dr. Randy’s, the entire AMA trembles.
randy.txt dump
Neil Allen is the one who taught Wang that nasty sinker. That is what turned Wang into an ace.
Cashman let Neil go to the rays, so he wasn’t around to help Wang when his sinker wasn’t feeling right. I don’t know about eiland but he doesnt seem to have the same feel for the kind of pitcher Wang excels at being.
Its double bad on Brian Cashman because he told Wang to atrophy his muscles in the offseason. What do they expect Wang to do when he has hollowed his bones to that not unlike a bird? To not break anything!?
The best thing for now is for both groups to just part ways. Its obvious the yankees will never understand Wang, no matter how many wontons they serve for lunch in spring training.
If the yankees had a better GM, we might not be in this mess but…
Was talking to some Cardinal fans,they’re convinced Holliday will not return,and that the Cardinals are very interested in Xavier Nady as plan b. Their gm Mozeliak has been quoted t is as saying he’ll go after Nady.
So if Matt goes unsigned by the Cards, what does that mean for Bay? Beantown can’t/won’t sign them both.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I’m watching Paula Deen make green beans unhealthy. That woman has some serious issues. She tried to sell the idea that a pear fritter was healthy. She has a kids cookbook that has sugar-packed muffins as a breakfast food and again, tries to sell it as healthy. She never met a stick of butter she wouldn’t eat whole. And she gets away with it ’cause she has a sweet southern accent. Man. It’s really a wonder the south couldn’t win the Civil War.
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Last week I watched her make a very yummy sounding apple stuffing. As she was wrapping it up she asked herself outloud, “Can I make a stuffing without butter? Of course not”. She then said she was going to put in a little and used half the stick. I was amazed.
I just prefer to eat vicariously through Nick. Much more healthy
If the yankees had a better GM, we might not be in this mess but
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Coming 2 weeks after a World Series victory, the above statement is noteworthy only as an example of complete and utter idiocy.
Doreen
November 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
GB7
You know, they say everything happens for a reason. Kennedy’s making the most of a pretty bad situation. Good for him.
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Nothing delivers a wake-up call like a hammer to the head. Hopefully, that’s what he got this past spring. It’s a tough way to learn that you don’t know everything. I’d be curious as to who he talked to about the new pitches, though. sounds like he may have had talks with Andy Pettitte. As much as the 4.25 ERA looks pedestrian, 5 of those earned runs and 7 of the hits came in one 3 inning stint about 3-4 weeks ago.
What a huge lift if he returns with a new-found approach to pitching that translates to success. Keeping Wang and getting him close to what he was, or, even to his 2005 level by mid-season would be like picking up a middle of the rotation starter for nothing.
IPK has a cutter and 2 seam,fastball,sounds awful close to Andy’s and Mo’s arsenal of pitches.
Just because Wang gets non-tendered doesn’t mean he’s done in New York. They’d have the option to bring him back on a minor-league deal, and having the option to send him down could be pretty important.
Also, don’t the Yanks have to make decisions on whether to offer arbitration to Damon and Matsui?
In 12 of Damaso Marte’s 13.1 IP in the regular season:
3.0 ERA, 1.0 WHIP
In 1.1 of Damaso Marte’s 13.1 IP in the regular season his ERA was: 67.5 ERA, 6.75
Postseason: 4.0 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.5 WHIP
Neil Allen coaches for the Montgomery Biscuits.
Seriously.
Coincidentally the Biscuits happen to be Paula Deen’s favorite team.
And if you put grape jelly and ketchup on a sausage biscuit with egg and cheese?
Well there’s your 5 food groups in each bite.
Jerkface
Didn’t the Yankees JUST win the WS? Wonder who fielded that team….uhm? CASHMAN he did a great job!!
“…the above statement is noteworthy only as an example of complete and utter idiocy.”
Or of skilled satire. Context is key.
Credit that sentiment to the $6 Bionic randy.
I find it hard to believe that a pitching coach hired by the New York Yankees, the New York freakin’ Yankees, doesn’t know how to throw a sinker or at least know how to teach pitchers to throw one.
Erica, there was a Sesame Street category on Jeopardy tonight, lol! I got all of the questions right, including one on the Cookie Monster……yay!
Wait a minute. Has it confirmed that Strawberry Pop-Tarts aren’t healthy and not part of the 5 major food groups?
I’ve been lied to by the people that I trust most….TV advertisers.
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Haha.. it has not. We should do extensive research!! And I will admit to a slight bias there, as I’m a toaster strudel person myself.
I’d forgotten about the frosting, good catch there. I guess that does add to the 3 of 5 food group status of both pop tarts and toaster strudels! Yay! Paula Deen would be proud of us.
Nick in SF,
If you’re still here, the Taiwanese media don’t have any news that is not news in the US, except maybe some comments from his agent. FTV may know something, though, but they will not do anything to jeopardize Wang’s chances with the Yankees or any other team.
“And if you put grape jelly and ketchup on a sausage biscuit with egg and cheese?
Well there’s your 5 food groups in each bite.”
That’s a lo-cal meal too because it wouldn’t stay down long. Yuck!
“randy.txt dump
Neil Allen…
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This made me laugh.
Thank you for the reply, TW. If you see/read any rumors in the Taiwan media, please let us know!
Betsy
November 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Erica, there was a Sesame Street category on Jeopardy tonight, lol! I got all of the questions right, including one on the Cookie Monster……yay!
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Do you remember the questions???
Angel – in an Empire State of mind. #27 has arrived!
November 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Wait a minute. Has it confirmed that Strawberry Pop-Tarts aren’t healthy and not part of the 5 major food groups?
I’ve been lied to by the people that I trust most….TV advertisers.
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Haha.. it has not. We should do extensive research!! And I will admit to a slight bias there, as I’m a toaster strudel person myself.
I’d forgotten about the frosting, good catch there. I guess that does add to the 3 of 5 food group status of both pop tarts and toaster strudels! Yay! Paula Deen would be proud of us.
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I’ll start my research tonight with Strawberry Pop-tarts and work my way up to the Brown-Sugar Cinnamon and Wild Cherry Pop-Tarts. I’m busy now checking out the health contents of Domino’s Cheesy Bread and supreme Pizza. I’ll get with you later on my findings…..right after my angioplasty.
“Also, don’t the Yanks have to make decisions on whether to offer arbitration to Damon and Matsui?”
Yes, but they won’t offer arbitration to them because they would most likely accept.
(I believe the following to be true – someone please correct me if I’m wrong)
If they go to salary arbitration, the new salary cannot be less than 10% of the previous year’s salary per the CBA. Both Damon and Matsui made 13 million last year. In today’s market, and at their ages, they’re not worth 90% of 13 million.
Damon’s market is probably going to be dictated by Abreu’s 2/19 million deal. Matsui’s deal would probably use Griffey’s deal as a precedent (after accounting for incentives).
I completely forgot Mitre served a 50 game suspension for a banned substance. Nesn.com had to bring it up in an article you know.
Found this in today’s NY Times. It’s 12,000 pictures of the last game of the World Series shown in less than 3 ½ minutes and set to a piano concerto. Pretty cool. Enjoy.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/.....ref=sports
nick in sf and jerkface-
you can try to rewrite history and not mention how wang was created, but the way it happened is the way it happened.
if wang is going to get the nasty sinker back , he’s going to have to go back to what he did in the first place.
Betsy I couldn’t believe Mr Hooper was the $2000 question!
Erica – always OPPC
November 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Betsy
November 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Erica, there was a Sesame Street category on Jeopardy tonight, lol! I got all of the questions right, including one on the Cookie Monster……yay!
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One of the questions was: “What is the Cookie Monster’s name”?
randy l.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
nick in sf and jerkface-
you can try to rewrite history and not mention how wang was created, but the way it happened is the way it happened.
if wang is going to get the nasty sinker back , he’s going to have to go back to what he did in the first place.
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I wonder if a one week class with Allen or Mel Stottlemyre would do the trick? They had two of the best that I ever saw. I know that they’re coaching in other places, but, coaches love to coach and teach.
Nick, I’ll keep that in mind. I do have an idea of how things might develop, but lots of work waiting to be done this morning. Maybe later or some other day.
“you can try to rewrite history and not mention how wang was created…”
Thank you, but I’d rather not.
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To all -
I found a listing of Yankee Minor League Free Agents released today:
New York Yankees (17)
RHP: Paul Bush (AA), Michael Gardner++ (AA), Justin Pope++ (AA), Humberto Sanchez (AAA), Jay Stephens (AA), Jose Valdez (AAA)
C: Brian Peterson (AAA), Chris Stewart (AAA)
3B: Eric Duncan (AAA), Carlos Mendoza+ (AA), Cody Ransom (AAA), Marcos Vechionacci (AA)
SS: Doug Bernier (AAA)
OF: Edwar Gonzalez (AA), Freddy Guzman (AAA), Richie Robnett (AA), John Rodriguez (AAA)
Players with a single plus sign (+) spent more than half the season (77 days or more) on the DL.
Players who spent the entire season (equal to 153 days) on the disabled list are denoted with a double plus sign (++).
A list of ALL Minor League Free Agents can be found at:
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....ts/?p=6994
I guess there are not any surprises on the Yankees list but it is sad to see how far Eric Duncan has fallen.
Nick:
Besically, right now the TW media got nothing from Wang or his agent, so the sources of them are NY media so far..
So TW news regarding Wang are translations of NY media/blog (including this one) now, but some reporters did write something but that is based on Yanks non-tendered Wang…
So right now TW media is not writing anything new to you guys….
And only thing new is that the Wangs are coming back to TW this week, I bet during his homecoming press conference, TW media will ask all kinds question, but Wang’s answer could be as usual as it can be..
on his future: focus on rehab (which he will continue in TW), not worry about his contract status (nontender or not), let that to the agents to handle…
As reported Wangs will just stay for a month (or less), then go back to US for continuing rehab…
That’s what I know….
Nick:
Besically, right now the TW media got nothing from Wang or his agent, so the sources of them are NY media so far..
So TW news regarding Wang are translations of NY media/blog (including this one) now, but some reporters did write something but that is based on IF Yanks non-tendered Wang…
So right now TW media is not writing anything that’s new to you guys….
And only thing new is that the Wangs are coming back to TW this week, I bet during his homecoming press conference, TW media will ask all kinds question, but Wang’s answer could be as usual as it can be..
on his future: focus on rehab (which he will continue in TW), not worry about his contract status (nontender or not), let that to the agents to handle…
As reported Wangs will just stay for a month (or less), then go back to US for continuing rehab…
That’s what I know….
repost it because of missing some words…