Comments on: The Yankees bullpen: Do or don’t

By: Naz

Naz — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:28:09 +0000

Yanks should get Soriano, he was a beast in Seattle

By: 86w183

86w183 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:13:41 +0000

Exactly Mark, the DH types will get less money because the market is loaded with them. The Yanks will be patient and most likely end up with Damon or Matsui but not both. I would not go over $ 8 Million for either one.

If I could sign DeRosa and either one I’d like that.

Boras didn’t actually used the Jeter salary figure. We all just extrapolated it from the comparison he made. No person on the planet is giving Johnny that much and, frankly it’s doubtful he gets that much for TWO seasons.

I agree with SJ on pitching. If Andy comes back and they can take a flyer on Sheets and/or Wang either Joba or Phil goes to the pen.

Just hope they stick with eleven pitchers and not the roster paralyzing 12 they carried too frequently in 2009.

By: Patrick from CT

Patrick from CT — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:07:50 +0000

On the Damon vs. Sui thing:
I think you first have to decide if Damon is going to be the LF or DH. If you don’t plan to play Damon in LF, maybe you bring back Sui instead.
Sui is a prooven DH and will cost less than Damon in both $$ and years.
I’m not sold on Damon in LF for 2 more years, I see him as more of a DH.
Another thing to consider with these guys is which spot in the lineup is easier to fill? #2 or #5? a LH power bat behind Alex, like Sui, would seem to be a harder spot to fill.

By: Mark in Tampa

Mark in Tampa — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:45:52 +0000

Matsui’s market is NYY, LAA, CWS, and maybe one or two others. With all the other DHs out there, it is a buyers market with a few DH types probably forced into retirement.

By: Doreen

Doreen — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:45:30 +0000

I’m off to LI to pick up daughter for Thanksgiving break.
For the purposes of today’s discussions, I am in basic agreement with SJ44 (and those of the same mind) with regard to any and all agent-speak, trade rumors, bullpen construction and possible FA signings!

Have a great time everyone!

By: PittsburghYankeeFan

PittsburghYankeeFan — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:42:43 +0000

Matsui and Vlad are a reasonable comparison.

I’d still expect around 30/100 for each of them in 10.

Offer would likely the the same? $8-10 million x 1 with a club option for year 2 if they pushed.

Sheets is interesting. Maybe the Yankees are thinking risk of Wang versus risk of Sheets? I’d give one or both small, one year incentive laden deals, looking at Doc at the end of 10.

By: Mark in Tampa

Mark in Tampa — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:42:41 +0000

Putting 21M per year out there for Damon is obviously posturing, but that’s a long way from the 7-9M per year that teams would likely be willing to pay.

My point is that even if the eventual dollars for Damon come down to that, it will take a long time for it to move that far. I don’t think the Yanks will have a LF need by that time.

It is one thing if he is saying 21M, knowing the eventual market will bear 16M, but to go from 21M to 7-9M will involve Damon getting involved and a lot of egg on Boras. He is going to be committed to keeping the Damon #s as close to that as possible until he is totally ignored by the league.

By: upstate kate

upstate kate — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:36:19 +0000

It had been mentioned that Cash wasn’t around much during the WS celebration. I was watching an MLB WS show I had recorded and a wet Cash, along w/ his daughter, were spraying Swish w/ champagne.

By: SJ44

SJ44 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:35:45 +0000

Matsui is in a tough spot. Nobody in the game feels he can play in the field anymore.

That makes his strictly a DH. Limits his market.

You start running down teams in the AL who need a DH.

You then start eliminating teams (like KC, for example) that won’t pay him the bucks he’s looking for or (Boston for example) don’t need a DH. Further limits his market.

That makes for a very small market for Matsui.

I could see him ending up in Anaheim since I don’t believe they will re-sign Vlad. That may be his most likely landing spot if he doesn’t re-up with the Yankees.

Its going to be interesting to see what happens if Cash puts offers on the table for Damon and Matsui and says, “first one to take it is in”.

By: SJ44

SJ44 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:31:19 +0000

Crawdaddy,

Right now, all the rumors coming out are agents calling the Ken Rosenthal’s and Jon Heyman’s of the world and pimping for their clients.

Funny how the Yankees are in on everybody, isn’t it? lol

That’s because if the Yankees are “in” on somebody, it raises that player’s profile and bank account on the open market.

For those of us on this blog that follow the team closely, we know Cash isn’t committing 6 million a year on a bullpen arm. That rumor (the Soriano/Gonzalez stuff) doesn’t pass the laugh test.

The Yankees have 1-2 spots in the rotation to fill, LF and DH. All of which are bigger priorities than the bullpen.

If Cash is committing big bucks to anybody, its to fill those holes. They have enough within the organization at this time to fill out the bullpen.