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“Carries himself like an experienced guy”

Chad Jennings
November
21

Of the seven players added to the Yankees 40-man roster on Friday, I’ve personally seen six. The one I haven’t seen is right-hander Hector Noesi. But Frankie Piliere has seen him, and Piliere has agreed to give us a scouting report. Piliere spent the past three seasons working as a scout and now writes for FanHouse. Check out an earlier story of his detailing some of the top prospects in the Yankees system. Piliere labeled Noesi as a sleeper even before Noesi was added to the 40-man.

Here’s his scouting report.

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Noesi is a very interesting guy, I guess probably the definition of a late bloomer as a prospect. I saw him with SI (Staten Island) in ‘08 and he had the fastball but not much in the way of a secondary pitch. This year when I saw him in Charleston then later on in Tampa he had come a long way. Sits around 91-93, touches 94 and heard reports of 95. But pretty steady around 92-93. Plus command of the fastball, can go east and west very well. The difference now is he’s mixing the curveball with good 12-6 action (72-76 mph). About an average pitch now, flashed plus now and then. Mixes a changeup but saw him make a lot of mistakes on it. 82-86 mph. Really a show pitch right now. If he can get it over enough he’s got a #3 type profile. He was just really surprising this year. Really became a pitcher, throws a lot of quality strikes and the fastball has a lot of life.

I don’t think he’s a guy that converts to the pen either. I saw him go deep into some games, change his patterns and actually even pick up velocity at higher pitch counts. His curveball had a tendency to tighten up later on too. Clean delivery, everything is pretty nice and easy.

I’ve thought he was maybe the most overlooked good prospect in the system by the end of the year. He’s not that far off I don’t think. Pitches and carries himself like an experienced guy.

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Great stuff. Thanks Frankie.

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36 Responses to ““Carries himself like an experienced guy””

  1. Tala08

    Chad you keep this up and the off-season is going to fly. Thanks.

  2. RonH

    Good stuff. Thanks Chad.

    Sorry to see Shelley go, always liked his effort and enthusiasm.

  3. JK

    Noesi is one of a growing number of solid pitchers in the system that were international free agent signings…

    MLB
    Aceves

    AAA
    Nova

    AA
    De La Rossa

    A+
    Heredia
    Banuelos
    Noesi

    A
    Vizcaino
    Ramirez

  4. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes

    Jose Ramirez is the new Vizcaino! Watch out for Jose! GB7 likely lucks out and gets to see both at Charleston.

  5. jonathan

    your minor league coverage is terrific chad-takin the blog to new heights!

  6. pat

    This is what I questioned the other day when someone made the statement that not signing Matsui would cost the Yankees millions of dollars.

    Outfield signage seems to be the place they would lose and that’s only if another advertiser wouldn’t take a Japapnese companies place.

    As the article points out, it is a baseball decision and not a business one.

    “International revenue from TV contracts and merchandising is paid to MLB, and all 30 teams get an equal share, said Jim Small, MLB’s VP, Asia. In other words, the Royals or Pirates make as much as the Yankees each time a fan in Tokyo buys a Yankee cap or a pinstriped Matsui jersey.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z0XVPOAwO6

  7. blake

    Cashman has done a phenominal job rebuilding the farm system. He’s taken it from one of the worst to one of the best in a relatively short amount of time.

  8. CR9

    This is too funny!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  9. lordbyron

    You’re right – Sheeley is not a good fit for the Yanks but deserves a shot in the bigs with someone. I hope he catches on with a team that will give him a fair chance to succeed. BTW, do you think Jones can continue his success in 2010 and beyond? Or will the Nat’l League catch up to him? His swing looks long at times.

  10. ADam

    McCallister not available to be protected?

  11. DT - OPPC member

    MLB transaction log says that Chien-Ming Wang was reinstated from the 60-Day DL. Does that put the roster @ 40 now?

    In sad news, it appears the Pirates scrap heap plan has gone off track – Pittsburgh designated pitcher Jeff Karstens for assignment. I wonder if the other 7 Yankee retreads are nervous?

  12. champ809

    McCallister doesn’t have to be protected…the top guys to watch from a talent perspective of the 7 players added to the 40man imo are;

    AJax(obviously)- i don’t think the Yanks are waiting for his power i think he’s got an outside shot to make the team out of ST with a big showing but more likely they will let him start@ SWB and if he gets off to the same kind of start he got off to last year he’ll come up around the break

    Nunez- who has .300/20hr/30+sbs potential and plus defense at SS and will play @ AAA at 23yrs old,Hello? his value to us is very underrated on this blog as Jeter may move off the position after next season and certainly at most may play 2 more seasons @ SS

    Noesi- 118k’s/115ip/15walks/lowest baa in the league 92-95 with 3 plus pitches…yeah that’ll do…i think he threw a no hitter in Charleston this year also. His sleeper status will last about another month.

    Nova-watching him a lil bit in the Dominican i’ve got the feeling he has a big year this year and is one of the top pitchers in AAA. Very,very good stuff and very strong….

    FYI how’s this for a staff in Trenton

    Noesi,DeLaRosa,DJ Mitchell,Bleich,Phelps and if they are ready to go from injury Garcia and Horne…just ridiculous!

  13. MelkyFan

    Good stuff. That report was done by my brother…. Frankie Piliere.

  14. disco stu

    What about Jorge Gonzalez, the outfielder the Yankees signed from the Mexican leagues last year? He was having a terrific season at AA Trenton and then apprently got hurt before the season ended.

    Does anybody know how serious his injury was and do you think that contributed to the Yankees leaving him off the 40-man roster for 2010?

  15. champ809

    In sad news, it appears the Pirates scrap heap plan has gone off track – Pittsburgh designated pitcher Jeff Karstens for assignment. I wonder if the other 7 Yankee retreads are nervous?
    ***************************************************

    actually those trades have been very good for the Pirates consider this;

    Ohlendorf- is their legit #2 starter
    McCutchen- will probably be the #4 starter
    Stephen Jackson- is the long man and was one of the top arms in their pen kinda like their Aceves
    Hacker- will at least compete for the #5 spot and considering the comp probably win it

    Tabata- raked in the AFL and will be one of the top 3 prospects in their system behind Yonder Alonso and will start at AAA this year @ 21yrs old after raking there the end of last year. I think we’re going to really regret not having him.

    Karstens was the lowest ceiling guy the got from us

  16. crawdaddy

    I thought they released Hacker?

  17. crawdaddy

    Also, when Tabata is racking in the majors then I’ll have some regrets.

  18. Erin

    CR9
    November 21st, 2009 at 10:05 am
    This is too funny!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

    ****************************

    That’s hilarious!

  19. champ809

    Disco Stu

    actually you must be talking about Jorge Vasquez the 1b/dh we got that was hitting bombs in Trenton until he got hurt.He’ll be ready to go to start the season not sure if they move him to SWB to play 1b as Laird i’m sure will be at Trenton or if they at least start him in AA and then maybe move him up with Montero in May/Jun…but he’ll be ready to go! Tremendous bat hoprfully he gets in better shape and at laset shows a playable glove at 1b

  20. Betsy

    Chad (and Frankie) – good stuff, thanks! I love reading about our kids because, who knows, one day they could be a big part of our future…….

    Isn’t 23 old to be at AAA? I don’t know much about Nunez – is he really considered a very good prospect? He’s never mentioned on those lists that come out every year (from Baseball America, etc…….), so is he really that good?

    Nova – is the guy who was converted from the OF?

    Disco Stu, that’s Jorge Vasquez.

  21. Betsy

    What does that mean that Vasquez is not on the 40 man? They can’t think that highly of him if he’s not………

    Also, should we be concerned about Montero’s injury? Apparently he’s having a terrible time in the Winter League…

  22. ADam

    “Cashman has done a phenominal job rebuilding the farm system. He’s taken it from one of the worst to one of the best in a relatively short amount of time.”

    Amen, Blake… he gets zero credit for his ability to biuld from within…

  23. crawdaddy

    “Also, should we be concerned about Montero’s injury? Apparently he’s having a terrible time in the Winter League…”

    Not until it extends to next season at SWB.

  24. pat

    “will be one of the top 3 prospects in their system behind Yonder Alonso”

    Alonso is with the Pirates now?

  25. crawdaddy

    “Alonso is with the Pirates now?”

    No, he’s still with the Reds.

  26. champ809

    Betsy

    the converted OF’er you’re referring to is Wilkins DeLaRosa the lefty at Trenton

    As far as Nunez he is that good and last year his game came together nicely at Trenton .322 with power/speed excellent range and very good arm at SS

    Vasquez doesn’t have to be added to the 40man and those spots are precious right now so it’s not an indication that the Yanks aren’t high on him it’s more that his 1st season in the org was last year and it got cut short due to injury so he hadn’t earned that designation yet. His bat is real though he was a star hitter in the Mexican leagues and is part of the Aceves/Banuelos pkg we got from Mexico. Vasquez hits BOMBS! and he’s always hit for high average. he needs to get in better shape to show that he’s taking the oppurtunity seriously but i saw him in the WBC abd he was one of the top 2/3bats on the Mexican squad and was mashing in Trenton with Montero.

    Crawdaddy

    you’re right about Hack the Pirates did release him

  27. disco stu

    Champ 809 … Jorge VASQUEZ … my bad.

    Thanks … I’m assuming he was left unprotected because of the injury and the Yankees are rolling the dice that teams will not claim him because they have no way of knowing if he will start the year healthy or not.

    But if he is healthy and continues to hit the way he did last year, what a nice prospect to have available that is not on the 40 man roster.

  28. champ809

    i meant Pedro Alvarez not Alonso…oops!

  29. champ809

    Vazquez is not rule V eligible as he was signed and brought in last year…he doesn’t have to be protected

  30. champ809

    Betsy

    if you like to follow our minors/prospects i would recommend PinstripesPlus which is done by scouts.com as their coverage is more thorough and in depth than say baseball america(garbage) and baseball prospectus. They cover everylevel including the instructs and always have good interviews with Newman/Oppenheimer/Nardi….

    below is the link to the top 50 prospects in the Yanks org as of last week

    http://yankees.scout.com/2/917987.html

    check it out anybody interested in the future of the franchise

  31. Betsy

    Craw, I guess we’ll know in a few months………I guess I won’t bother worrying now, lol.

    Champ, wasn’t Nunez the guy that had a good ST this past year? I remember people saying some pretty nice things about him………..I hope he is the real deal because eventually we will need a new SS (plus, we need all the talented position prospects we can get). Thanks for the info!

    As to Vasquez, how come he doesn’t have to be added to the 40 man? Also, any idea how old he is? I hope he’s as good as you say…..it’s too bad he got hurt last year. Hopefully he’s as good as new now.

  32. Betsy

    Champ, I do subscribe on-line to PP – I used to visit it often, but now I hardly do (I had no time during the season, between my hanging out here and on other boards). Since it’s the off-season, I’ve spent some more time there…….they do do a very good job and I always love reading the interviews from Nardi, etc…

    Oops, I see you answered the ? about Vasquez already….

  33. champ809

    BaseLines for November 19
    By JED WEISBERGER
    http://www.trentonthunder.com

    Infielder Brandon Laird is certainly showing he is ready for Double-A baseball and the Thunder in 2010.

    Laird, a 27th-round pick by the Yankees in 2007, who finished the Florida State League season on a hot streak, is ending his Arizona Fall League campaign with a flourish.

    With five multi-hit games in his last 10, Laird, 22, is batting .333 (30-for-90) –and is second in the circuit in home runs (6) and fifth in RBIs (24). He is one of a several possible 2010 Thunder possibilities who are enjoying success in Winter Baseball.

    Based on what is going on in Arizona, mixed with what was accomplished by others in 2009, one can envision what could be on the field for the 2010 Thunder. A combination of holdovers and new faces will no doubt bring a talented and interesting mix.

    One must also throw caution to the wind, however. Laird is coming off a season similar to what Cody Ehlers had in the Florida State League in 2006. In fact, Ehlers’ numbers were even better. Ehlers hit the wall in Double-A, never got his stroke going and was released.

    Laird, who does not draw a lot of walks, will need to improve his plate-management skills a bit as he adjusts to the Eastern League. If he can hone his pitch-recognition skills, he could have a breakout season.

    “He’ll have to adjust, like anybody’’ said a scout from another American League team. “That is the key to it all.’’

    Given his determination to both mature into a .300 hitter with power and a more-than-adequate first baseman, most in baseball believe Laird will succeed.

    Others with Thunder ties who are hammering the ball include Juan Miranda (.476 for Licey in the Dominican League), Reegie Corona (.337 for Magallanes of the Venezuelan League) and Colin Curtis, who is fourth in the AFL at .384.

    Figure the above three to be in at least Triple-A, but others could join with Laird to form a potent attack.

    Infielder Walter Ibarra held his own in the Eastern League in 2008, and is hitting .297 (11-for-37) for Hermosillo of the Mexican Pacific League. Infielder Jorge Vazquez is batting .278 (5-for-18) for Culiacan in that same circuit, while infielder Luis Nunez (.280 at Tampa in 2009) is batting .250 (9-for-36) for Zulia in the Venezuelan League.

    It’s quite possible that Vazquez, off his injury-scarred 2009, will be back with the Thunder, with Ibarra and Nunez manning middle infeld spots. Add them to Laird, Jesus Montero, Austin Romine and possibly outfielder Danny Brewer, and there are some guys who can swing the bats.

    Several of the 2010 Thunder rotation possibilities are not playing winter ball, but relievers Jon Ortiz and Pat Venditte are taking their turns in their leagues.

    Ortiz has been solid, putting together an 0-0, 0.00 mark with six scoreless appearances for Licey in the Dominican League,while Venditte, the switch reliever, is 1-0, 4.82 in seven appearances with Zulia of the Venezuelan League, where he is honing his craft against competition that includes Major Leaguers.

    One often has to take Winter League numbers with a grain of salt, but, with Thanksgiving just about here, thoughts of spring suit a baseball fan’s fancy.

    **********************************************
    CONGRATULATIONS EDUARDO NUNEZ: In my writings published on various venues –primarily BaseLines – I have received a lot of reaction and debate on just what level prospect 2009 Thunder shortstop Eduardo Nunez is.

    Those who love to rate players by numbers point to his 31 errors last season. Yes, Nunez did commit them –many because he attempted to make plays others would not, and others during which he relied a bit much on his plus-arm and threw erratically.

    Nunez quieted some of his critics yesterday as he was named the Topps Double-A All-Star at shortstop. He batted .322 (160-for-497), third-best in the EL, and his 160 hits were second in the circuit.

    Obviously he needs to cut down on those errors, but this is a natural course for young shortstops passing through a minor-league system.

    Again, with no deference to one Derek Jeter, who played in the Sally League at Greensboro in 1993. That season, he had 56 errors. He’s played a pretty good shortstop for a lot of years.

    Nunez will as well.”
    **********************************************************

    just a lil more info for you guys…

    Betsy this hopefully gives you a lil more insight into what Nunez could potentially be….ot me he’s the only real in-house player who could potentially replace Jeter at SS one day and when you actually see him with your eyes you get the feeling that he just has “it”…or at least i did the or 6 times i saw him.

    Mirand i’m telling you guys could definitely be the primary DH for us next year this guy’s a legit,legit hitter with real power from the LH side 25-30homer bat

  34. champ809

    Vazquez will be 28 yrs old in march…

    if you go to trentonthunder.com,and then the roster tab and find Vasquez and click on him read the highlights at the bottom of the player page and i think you will see the talent in the bat. He could probably hit at the majors right now as a DH and his future is DH but the Yanks started him at Trenton to try to a least work him into shape as at least a playable glove a 1b and they want his conditioning to improve as he looks like a beer league softball player to the eye but he can hit the hell out of a baseball!

  35. Chris

    Great stuff Chad – really appreciate the find and scouting reports!!!

    It was also great to see a former pro scout say that he believes Montero could stay at the catching position!!!!!!!!!

  36. Frankie Piliere

    Glad you guys enjoyed the read over here. Going to mixing a lot of prospect analysis/scouting reports through the winter and once the season starts I’ll be back out scouting and reporting prospects updates. Luckily for me and the fans, Trenton and Scranton are not far so I’ll be scouting there quite a bit.

    And as far as Noesi, like I told Chad, really fascinating under the radar guy. I didn’t realize he needed protection but probably a good thing they did. He’s not that far off.

    FP

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Chad JenningsChad Jennings joined the The Journal News in October 2009, having spent the better part of seven years covering baseball in Scranton, PA. He is a graduate of the University of Missouri and an award-winning beat reporter and features writer. E-mail me at cjennings@lohud.com
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