Comments on: The untouchables? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:18:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: sadf http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-4/#comment-1159526 sadf Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:19:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159526 As I was saying, they both have the TALENT to become Halladays. Do they have the training, the cultivation? Not yet. It's up to the Yankees to turn 23 year old Joba into what he could be. As I was saying, they both have the TALENT to become Halladays. Do they have the training, the cultivation? Not yet.

It’s up to the Yankees to turn 23 year old Joba into what he could be.

]]> By: Ramondo http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-4/#comment-1159164 Ramondo Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:08:16 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159164 Taylor.."Young Stud Pitcher" Who are you speaking of? Joba or Hughes? Actually, it does not matter b/c neither falls under the category "Young Stud Pitcher"! Now do I think there is potential of them falling under that title? Honestly, I don't know. The Yankees really messed up Joba and Hughes basically gave everyone a "Woody" during the season and then when we needed him the most...he sucked!! Taylor..”Young Stud Pitcher” Who are you speaking of? Joba or Hughes? Actually, it does not matter b/c neither falls under the category “Young Stud Pitcher”! Now do I think there is potential of them falling under that title? Honestly, I don’t know. The Yankees really messed up Joba and Hughes basically gave everyone a “Woody” during the season and then when we needed him the most…he sucked!!

]]> By: BigJoe44 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-4/#comment-1159160 BigJoe44 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:00:34 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159160 Taking Wells with Halladay may be a good idea. Toronto would be very happy to get rid of his contract, so we would be able to get Halladay without selling the farm. Wells is a much better defender than Damon, and would give us a solid bat in the 6 or 7 spot. His offensive numbers the last two years are because of injuries. A healthy Wells would make him almost worth his contract. The big bonus would be getting Halladay for little more than the big contract he would want. Taking Wells with Halladay may be a good idea. Toronto would be very happy to get rid of his contract, so we would be able to get Halladay without selling the farm. Wells is a much better defender than Damon, and would give us a solid bat in the 6 or 7 spot. His offensive numbers the last two years are because of injuries. A healthy Wells would make him almost worth his contract. The big bonus would be getting Halladay for little more than the big contract he would want.

]]> By: disco stu http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1159093 disco stu Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:03:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159093 "Yanks should offer the Blue Jays a few lower level prospects for both Halladay and Vernon Wells. The jays wouldn’t be able to pass on getting rid of Wells’ contract." Yeesh ... no way!!! No way do the Yankees take on Vernon Wells contract coming off a WS victory ... any team that would trade for Halladay at the expense of taking on the albratros that is Vernon Wells contract is an organization that is so desparate for Roy Halladay that they would be willing to destroy any kind of payroll flexibility for the next 3-4 years. Which is why the Mets would probably do it!!! “Yanks should offer the Blue Jays a few lower level prospects for both Halladay and Vernon Wells. The jays wouldn’t be able to pass on getting rid of Wells’ contract.”

Yeesh … no way!!!

No way do the Yankees take on Vernon Wells contract coming off a WS victory … any team that would trade for Halladay at the expense of taking on the albratros that is Vernon Wells contract is an organization that is so desparate for Roy Halladay that they would be willing to destroy any kind of payroll flexibility for the next 3-4 years.

Which is why the Mets would probably do it!!!

]]> By: VA Yanks fan http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1159087 VA Yanks fan Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:35:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159087 Yanks should offer the Blue Jays a few lower level prospects for both Halladay and Vernon Wells. The jays wouldn't be able to pass on getting rid of Wells' contract. Yanks should offer the Blue Jays a few lower level prospects for both Halladay and Vernon Wells. The jays wouldn’t be able to pass on getting rid of Wells’ contract.

]]> By: Thomo http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1159052 Thomo Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:05:26 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159052 MLB Network has the Orioles/Reds WS - i had forgotten what a great pitcher Jim Palmer was - talk about a fluid delivery! I agree that they need at least one more front line pitcher - but the current business model is you don't give up the farm for a pitcher over 30. So I hope they sign Lackey and/or Sheets and "wait till next year" on Doc. MLB Network has the Orioles/Reds WS – i had forgotten what a great pitcher Jim Palmer was – talk about a fluid delivery!

I agree that they need at least one more front line pitcher – but the current business model is you don’t give up the farm for a pitcher over 30. So I hope they sign Lackey and/or Sheets and “wait till next year” on Doc.

]]> By: Patrick Bateman http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1159010 Patrick Bateman Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:21:02 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1159010 Actually pitching is a dire need. We went without Wang in the rotation all last year, even though most people forgot about it. So we were missing a number 2/3 in the rotation. That spot needs to be filled. You can't be going into next season expecting to be able to do the 3 pitcher formula again. While I think its a mistake to trade for Halladay due to his age and the salary requirement, a front end pitcher is a necessity. Actually pitching is a dire need. We went without Wang in the rotation all last year, even though most people forgot about it. So we were missing a number 2/3 in the rotation.

That spot needs to be filled. You can’t be going into next season expecting to be able to do the 3 pitcher formula again. While I think its a mistake to trade for Halladay due to his age and the salary requirement, a front end pitcher is a necessity.

]]> By: Corey http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1158989 Corey Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:39:57 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1158989 I also want to point out I see zero chance Felix is getting dealt. Not to mention the Yankees have to empty the farm. It just will not happen. What the Yankees need to do is worry about Damon first. Then they can dictate what they do with the rest. If Damon doesnt sign then maybe sign a chone figgins and put him in left. Holliday is way too exspensive even for the Yankees after what they spent last offseason. As for pitching they should look into Halladay obviously but do not give up Montero. I would be willing to deal one of Hughes or Joba if I was Cashman but not both. I think the Yankees have alot of options and Cash just needs to be creative. Let's not forget they just won it all so it is not dire here. I also want to point out I see zero chance Felix is getting dealt. Not to mention the Yankees have to empty the farm. It just will not happen. What the Yankees need to do is worry about Damon first. Then they can dictate what they do with the rest. If Damon doesnt sign then maybe sign a chone figgins and put him in left. Holliday is way too exspensive even for the Yankees after what they spent last offseason. As for pitching they should look into Halladay obviously but do not give up Montero. I would be willing to deal one of Hughes or Joba if I was Cashman but not both. I think the Yankees have alot of options and Cash just needs to be creative. Let’s not forget they just won it all so it is not dire here.

]]> By: Rich in NJ http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1158986 Rich in NJ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:34:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1158986 Phil People aren’t trading those kind of pitchers anymore. See the Santana deal from two years ago and Santana was 4 years younger than Halladay is. Toronto is thinking pie in the sky if they think they are gonna get anywhere near what they were offered at the deadline. Halladay has already said he won’t resign with them and they have no leverage. ___ This post is spot on. I don't understand how anyone can disagree with it's irrefutable logic. Phil

People aren’t trading those kind of pitchers anymore. See the Santana deal from two years ago and Santana was 4 years younger than Halladay is. Toronto is thinking pie in the sky if they think they are gonna get anywhere near what they were offered at the deadline. Halladay has already said he won’t resign with them and they have no leverage.
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This post is spot on. I don’t understand how anyone can disagree with it’s irrefutable logic.

]]> By: Corey http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/11/22/the-untouchables/comment-page-3/#comment-1158983 Corey Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:32:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/?p=21300#comment-1158983 Whatever the Yankees do please do NOT trade Jesus Montero. Whatever the Yankees do please do NOT trade Jesus Montero.

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