Comments on: Today’s award: NL MVP

By: Northern oriole

Northern oriole — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:11:36 +0000

I remember after the 2004 season when Millar, Damon and Mueller were allfree agents and Kevin Millar said that because the three of them were suchgood friends they should tell teams that if you want one, you have to sign all three<

Actually it was Johnny Damon who said that.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:56:46 +0000

My ballot would be:
Pujols
Utley
Ramirez
everyone else

By: Squidward

Squidward — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:09 +0000

“which for accounting purposes will reflect an extra $1.3M to his $24M for the next six seasons.”

This should read “…an extra $1.3M to his $23M…..”

By: Squidward

Squidward — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:50:00 +0000

“In reality he made $ 25 Million in cash last year and just $ 20 Million in 2010. His salary goes to $ 22.5 for the following six seasons.”

True. But he was on the books for $20M this year, despite being paid $25M. He is back on for $20M in 2010, so I was off on that.

By: DaSaint007

DaSaint007 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:49:41 +0000

86w183, the Yankees only paid a portion of the salaries for Hairston and Hinske, as they were obtained late in the season. The structures and bonuses do change reality, as they factor. Regardless, the question to ask is does the team intend to lower overall payroll, increase it, or keep it the same. I’m inclined to think that they will lower it, as revenues are being affected.

If they decide to reduce payroll by say $10 million, it lowers the amount available for a Free Agent Starting Pitcher, PLUS Andy Pettitte, PLUS either Damon or a Free Agent LF, PLUS normal raises/arbitration.

Something’s gotta give. Problem is none of us know what that something is. It’s all just speculation. But if it were me – I’d be prudent.

By: Squidward

Squidward — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:47:49 +0000

“Some will be eaten up by increases, but not by Sabathia. Teixiera’s contract is averaged over the years for luxury tax purposes.”

So was Sabathia’s. He was paid $23M, but $9M of it was bonus which for accounting purposes will reflect an extra $1.3M to his $24M for the next six seasons. He’s on the books for $10M more than he was last year. That’s fact.

By: 86w183

86w183 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:33:42 +0000

Sabathia made $ 23 Million. The structure of the bonus and salaries don’t change reality.

It’s fine to start assigning the $$ and reducing the number because that’s what’s going to happen.

Right now the Yankees have holes at LF, DH, SP, C, Bench

They are free of obligations to Damon ($ 13), Matsui ($ 13), Pettite ($ 10.5), Nady ($ 6.5), Wang ($ 5), Molina ($ 2), Hairston ($ 2) and Hinske ($ 1.5).

That’s more than $ 50 Million and several positions to fill. The chance that none of those positions will be filled by a “major acquisition” is pretty remote based on the Yankees history.

Some will be eaten up by increases, but not by Sabathia. Teixiera’s contract is averaged over the years for luxury tax purposes. In reality he made $ 25 Million in cash last year and just $ 20 Million in 2010. His salary goes to $ 22.5 for the following six seasons.

By: DaSaint007

DaSaint007 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:33:35 +0000

Squids numbers and mine aren’t exactly the same, but you get the general idea. You can’t just look at what’s coming off, you have to take into account what’s forcast for the upcoming years and plan accordingly.

’10 and ’11 could be pateau years, salary-wise. There are some interesting FA offerings after 2010 and after 2011, and I’m sure the team wants to be able to consider them also, while taking into account current players. And nobody realistically thinks that Rivera and Jeter will take significant salary cuts, should they continue to play. In fact, I’m sure management is praying that Andy and Posada retire after their current contracts, this year notwithstanding.

By: Rishi

Rishi — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:31:11 +0000

By: DaSaint007

DaSaint007 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:23:00 +0000

86w183, while they do have almost, almost $50 million coming off the books, they do have to replace a starting pitcher, a starting left fielder, and a starting DH all the while paying increases due to normal salary arbitration and annual increases. Further, CC made ONLY $15 or $16 million this year, but in 2010 on makes $23 million, a $7 million to $8 million difference.

Regardless, we can crunch numbers all day, and I’d be happy to, but they will need to pay Pettitte or his replacement upwards of $10 million, agreed? And Damon a minimum of $10 million if he returns. That’s $20 million already. If they add Lackey at $15+ million, that takes them right back where they started – beofre raises and arbitration, and before adding someone for LF if Damon is your DH.

I don’t see it happening, but hey, I’ve been wrong before. You just never know.