Cashman: “Nothing new in our baseball world”
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I talked very briefly with Brian Cashman this afternoon. For the most part, the news is that there is no news, but the Yankees general manager did have a good line about Derek Jeter being named Sportsman of the Year.
“We’re real fortunate to have him, we really are,” Cashman said. “Every now and then you get lucky and come across someone who makes you better in every way. He’s that kind of person.”
• Cashman is meeting with ownership at the end of the week. That’s when things like payroll will be determined. Until then, there’s not much to report. ”There is nothing new in our baseball world right now,” Cashman said.
• Tomorrow is the deadline to offer arbitration to free agents, but Cashman wouldn’t say one way or another whether the Yankees will make an offer to any of their players. ”We’ll just make an announcement,” he said.
• I wrote last night that I wasn’t sure whether the Freddy Guzman trade had been finalized. Cashman said the Yankees sent Baltimore $50,000 – the price of a Rule 5 pick – to complete the deal.
• The Yankees haven’t decided who gets a World Series ring and who doesn’t. I asked because I’m curious about Steven Jackson, who was called up to New York but never actually pitched in a game.
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nothing new.
I haven’t had a chance to read through a lot of the posts today but I noticed Sizemores name mentioned a few times… Is there any real rumors out there about him or was that just part of some far fetched trade idea?
I can’t wait until something actually happens. This has been the most boring off season I can remember.
BTW, if anyone’s in the holiday spirit, The Grinch is on ABC tonight.
blake,
His name came up because of some photos on the internet, I think that brought him to everybody’s consciousness to start making trade proposals.
champ809–It seems to me if one doesn’t think Boras would accept arbitration the team would offer it to potentially get a draft pick or to stifle competion somewhat. I will say Boras has had his clients accept arbitration in the past, Maddux for one I think.
Remember if you offer arbitration you have to offer at least 80 percent of the previous season salary plus any/all earned bonuses. That means you have to be willing to pay Damon and/or Matsui $ 10.4 M or more and Pettite roughly $ 8.5.
Of course they could earn more in arbitration. That’s the risk you take.
I thought it a shame today that on a day where Jeter was honored by SI, both Joel Sherman and Michael Kay had to criticize the decision. Kay and his bozo cohorts La Greca and Bonnie Bernstein (how I hate her) basically asked what qualifications Jeter had to win it? Sure, he had a great year and he’s a good guy, but Mauer probably gives to charity and he dominated his sport at his position; Mo is a great guy, Jimmy Johnson (sorry, please – Nascar?) had a great year. Those are the names they brought up,…… I’m no pollyanna, but Jeter is a worthy choice – I just don’t get why people have a problem with his selection.
Youtube :”pink glove dance,” for breast cancer awareness by Hospital staff of professionals and regular hospital staff, to upbeat music,is good!!
Wake me when the arbitration decisions are in.
I don’t see why the Yankees wouldn’t offer arbitration to Damon. They either get a first round pick as compensation, or Damon has to accept a one year deal. Looks like a win-win to me.
S.o.S.
November 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
The only bad part of Piazza’s defense was that he couldn’t throw.
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lol gb7. I think the MOST important thing to ask Montero is if he would get along and impress Burnett. Everything else is doable.
I wouldnt mind having another catcher with an excellent bat and an average arm behind home plate. We havnt done to shaby the last 13 years with who we have.
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SoS, like I said, Piazza was a good glove catcher and he knew the hitters. He just had a weak arm. God….that bat, though. I’d hate to label Montero as that, but, there’s a sound off his bat like few that I’ve heard and that’s from a 19-20 year old. On defense, he’s actually pretty decent and has a strong arm. Not Ivan Rodriguez strong, but, Posada type strong from about 4 years ago.
Betsy- sadly, I’m not surprised. Those two live to complain.
GreenBeret7,
Off topic, but have you seen the story with the SEALS being court-martialed? That, together with the murder trial for the SF guys a couple of years ago, just blows my mind. The military is so PC now, they can’t do their job properly. It was starting a bit by the time I got out in ‘98, but I don’t know if I would enlist now for anything. The military is still fine, but the leadership is disgraceful.
Rings:
Jeter
Mariano
Posada
Andy
Alex
Tex
CC
Aceves
Bruney
Coke
Robertson
Hinske
Brunett
Joba
Hughes
Gaudin
Marte
Melky
Damon
Cano
Gardner
Swisher
Possible Mitre
Of course Joe G and coach staff.
via MLBTR
Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that the Pirates are “one of several teams” interested in Justin Duchscherer, who missed all of the 2009 season, first due to hip and elbow surgery, then as a result of clinical depression.
Why is Dejan reporting this? And why is MLBTR linking to it?
Don’t either of them know that the Red Sox are interested, and once the Red Sox are interested, they will get him if they truly want him.
haiku-man – all the players who were on the roster in the post season will get rings. There are a lot more rings given out than you would think.
There are also other versions of the rings that are given out to others associated with the team that aren’t players or coaches or even front office.
ABD
I know my list is limited, but some of them didn’t play,so I used a safe list.I know Cashman and Company get rewarded,he said in the thread players the others are a given.
Mark in Tampa
November 30th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
GreenBeret7,
Off topic, but have you seen the story with the SEALS being court-martialed? That, together with the murder trial for the SF guys a couple of years ago, just blows my mind. The military is so PC now, they can’t do their job properly. It was starting a bit by the time I got out in ‘98, but I don’t know if I would enlist now for anything. The military is still fine, but the leadership is disgraceful.
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Yeah, I’ve been reading on these issues. As far as leadership goes, the politicians and government have tied the hands on this thing. another problem is that the quality of enlistees has deteriorated so bad since they did away with the draft. Now, what they get a lot of is thugs, idiots and, sadly, a lot of gangs are now sending their people in to the military to get the training so they can either get out after the training or just wait a couple of years and then rejoin the gangs to train the rest on how to do military style take-downs on other gangs. They also recruit soldiers for gang membership.
Don’t get me wrong, though….leadership has it’s share of issues, too. That has always been the case, though. My feelings….bring back the draft and get a better quality of personnel.
Betsy- They actually mentioned Jimmy Johnson?! Give me a break. The guy doesn’t even play a sport. He drives around making left hand turns for 5 hours.
LOL Someone posted on NYYfans.com that Rob Dibble whined on XM radio that the Yankees shouldn’t be allowed to trade for Halladay because our rotation would then be unfair. Hmm, if the Sox got Doc, their rotation of Lester, Beckett and Doc would be better than if we got Doc……but it’s ok for the Sox to get trade for him?
I spotted the two upcoming autograph signings when I walked by Steiner Sports at Roosevelt Field Mall tonight-
December 9 Joba Chamberlain 6:30-8pm
December 14 Mariano Rivera 6-7:30
I have no idea how much tickets are to these, but they are very limited and need to be bought in advance. Just wanted to pass the info on
Erin-
You are in Illinois right??? I made a discovery for you (mark your calendar for the end of 2010)….
http://www.sites.si.edu/exhibi.....n/main.htm
Jennifer, I agree……..I don’t even mean to disparage Johnson. I just didn’t get the negativity.
By the way, mark my words. I predict that Ken Davidoff of Newsday will write a scathing article about how Jeter should not have been SI’s choice. I guarantee he will write an article or at least whine about it in a column. Check Newsday.com (the sports section, obviously). I know this will happen as surely as I know the sun will rise tomorrow.
“The champion Yankees divided more than $21 million in postseason shares, with each of 46 full shares coming to a record $365,052.73.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
GreenBeret7,
The thug types and idiots don’t make it very far into the SF units. That is primarily what I am referring to. In fact, my old CO at 3rd Ranger Bn, Lt Col Kearney, was behind the prosecution of the SF sniper team a few years back. As far as I am concerned, he was back to his old tricks. He made his full bird once he left 3rd Batt on the backs of 5 good NCOs that he brought up on bogus hazing charges. Now, he positions himself for the 3rd Star on his lapels by bringing up good men on murder charges. For just doing their jobs.
Rishi any word on who got shares?
jennifer – no idea, I just pulled that from an article about Nick Adenhart being granted a full share…will see what I can dig up (though I expect they’ll have it here sooner or later)
AnthonyDiComo It’s official: #Mets have signed SS Alex Cora to a one-year deal.
2 minutes ago from web
Serena Williams was fined $82,500 for that out burst at the US Open.
Damon, glad to hear it – that was disgusting.
Mark, the higher ranks are all tied in some manner politically. Its the only way the gain advancement.
The other thing to remember is Hillary wants to see the US as part of the ICC. In some ways bringing up charges against the SEALS is to head off the ICC, which is claiming it has jurisdiction due to where this occurred, regardless of the US not being a signatory of the ICC. The military has no desire to see the US as part of the ICC as there are socialist and Islamic nations that have a preponderance of membership, so the US military and leaders would be subject to all kinds of cases.
For 8 years, baseball maligned the Yankees: “see, even with the highest payroll in all of baseball, you can’t win a WS, you can’t BUY a WS.” And then the unthinkable happened. The Yankees got the right players this time, combined them with a solid core, some youngsters and a new manager.
Now, the rules need to be changed because you can’t allow the Yankees to win, even if they are playing by all the rules.
(Not only Dibble was whining. Earlier in the day a caller phoned in on XM saying that people need to stop complaining abut the Yankees, because after all, they did play by the rules -BUT that the rules need to be changed so that a team like the Yankees can’t have an advantage.)
For 8 years, where was the advantage that the Yankees supposedly enoyed by having the highest payroll and subsidizing the rest of the league?
Jennifer:
Shares are voted on before the postseason by the players, who decide who should get a full share, a partial share, a fixed cash award or nothing at all. From what I understand, pretty much every player that played for the team during the season gets at least a partial share, so for guys like Jose Veras, Anthony Claggett and even Steven Jackson – he never appeared in a game for the Yankees this season despite spending a week or so on the roster – there will be a nice check coming their way.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0YOXAYfPh
Doreen, I love watching these fans get their panties in a bunch over the Yankees……
Watch Prime 9 tonight – right now it’s top Cinderella teams (will have to tape that later as I forgot the show wasd on); next up is best catchers.
Rishi
Thanks
“the higher ranks are all tied in some manner politically. Its the only way the gain advancement.”
If that is the game they are going to play, they should be in corporate America, not our military. Leaders that abandon the troops for personal gain should be brought up on dereliction of duty charges. There is no excuse. And the US Military has no compunction to turn over troops to the ICC or anybody else.
Erica – always OPPC
November 30th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Erin-
You are in Illinois right??? I made a discovery for you (mark your calendar for the end of 2010)….
http://www.sites.si.edu/exhibi…..n/main.htm
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Erica, thanks so much for the link! That looks amazing. I think I told you they had a Henson tribute a few weeks ago that I didn’t find out about until it was too late for me to go. I was really disappointed.
RS
“I don’t see why the Yankees wouldn’t offer arbitration to Damon. They either get a first round pick as compensation, or Damon has to accept a one year deal. Looks like a win-win to me.”
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If Cot’s is right that the payroll is at $170 million without Damon, Pettitte, Matsui, and the young players without long term contracts, how do you risk paying Damon $13 or more million when you have to pay Pettitte at least $10 million, and may want to pay Halladay $15.75, while keeping the payroll just under $200 million?
http://spreadsheets.google.com.....utput=html
Now if they think Damon will turn down arbitration, then it makes sense.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Mark, while I agree with you, you have to remember that the military is under the control of the government. Senators and the President are the “bosses” of all the military. In the past the military had been given freer reign on things, but with the political divide that is growing in this country, that is no longer the case.
When the Sec of State bemoans that we are not part of the ICC you can bet that the military has grave concerns about where that can lead.
Betsy
She is also on probation for 2010-2011 while in any Grand Slam.If she violates she’s out of the slam.
Betsy
She is also on probation for 2010-2011 while in any Grand Slam.If she violates she’s out of the slam.
Sorry for the dbl post computer has a mind of its own.
Damon, what does that mean, she’s on probation? Meaning she’s not allowed to argue with a line judge? Good – she should be SI’s Unsportsman of the Year…..
Betsy,
It’s probably a question of fact. IOW, she can probably dispute a call as long as it’s done civilly.
“… with each of 46 full shares coming to a record $365,052.73.”
46 full shares. Might be a stupid question but did more than 46 guys play in the majors this year?
Maybe the veterans voted everyone a full share. That would be a nice touch.
The guys who would get partial shares are probably the ones who could use the extra cash the most.
Erin
November 30th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Erica, thanks so much for the link! That looks amazing. I think I told you they had a Henson tribute a few weeks ago that I didn’t find out about until it was too late for me to go. I was really disappointed.
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I am a little irritated with myself that I didn’t realize it was just in PA until it was too late. I tried to get to DC last year but I was too swamped at work. I might try to roadtrip to the Massachusetts museum next spring. PA would have been a much easier drive.
Oddly enough, this may be the first touring exhibit in museum history to not come to New York
Betsy – high on pie
November 30th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Damon, what does that mean, she’s on probation? Meaning she’s not allowed to argue with a line judge? Good – she should be SI’s Unsportsman of the Year…..
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I think that would go to Milton Bradley
I think support personnel like trainers, equipment guys, etc. are included in the WS share allotment.
Forget the above question, I found the answer myself.
“The Yankees voted to award 46 full shares, 12.25 partial shares and two cash awards”
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0YOh0T5vP
Doreen
If there was ever a salary cap,about 8 maybe 12 baseball teams that can keep their doors open,due to the corporate welfare system (Luxury Tax,Revenue sharing)Selig has set up,would go out of business.
pat
November 30th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
“… with each of 46 full shares coming to a record $365,052.73.”
46 full shares. Might be a stupid question but did more than 46 guys play in the majors this year?
Maybe the veterans voted everyone a full share. That would be a nice touch.
The guys who would get partial shares are probably the ones who could use the extra cash the most.
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Per the article, trainers, bp pitchers, masseurs etc are also voted shares
Red Sox got something like 29,000.00$ for their postseason full shares.
You know where this money comes from by the way?
Gate receipts.
150$ for a nosebleed in the World Series so these guys can collect a few extra hundred thousand.
GB, I remember when the BoSox played in Winter Haven Florida….Played there in the Old Florida State League, and a few Spring Training games back in the early 1970’s…..Beautiful setting on some lakes as I recall….Man the years have flown by….
damon enjoy…
I should disclose that the guys on XM at that time (1 p.m., so Casey & Kennedy?), said the business model’s not going to change, i.e., there is no salary cap coming. And they did touch on the aspect of making the teams disclose how they’re improving their team with the revenue sharing money.
As I understand that, it doesn’t necessarily mean they have to spend the money on FAs or even players – that improving the team just means putting the money back into the team in whatever way, as opposed to using the money to keep some other business afloat.
BETSY
She can argue.like they all do.SHE CAN’T HAVE A MELTDOWN,with the profanity,that was over the top.But in her defense MacEnroe,Conners,et al (men) were far worst in their day,and Never fined like her.
The Patriots just scored on their first drive to make it 7-3.
They converted two 4th and 1’s. And it was called a “championship drive.” Last time I checked, they have not cheated their way to a SB in a while.
I love hearing everybody, like Drew Brees this week, marvel at how great an organization they are. How everyone wants to be like them. They are the model organization. Ha! Cheating to 3 super bowls make you model alright.
PAT, Yeah, I believe Boston left Winter Havem in the early 90s. When they first moved to Ft. Myers, they played at Terry Park, in a bad side of town. It must have been 50 years old even then. City Of Palms is a real beauty that was biolt by HOK. For whatever reason, they are building Boston a new parl that opens in 2012, just outside of Ft. Myers off of I-75. The Twins also train there and have their own park that the Ft Myers Miracle of the FSL. Red Sox actually used Savavannah for a ST site back in the 30s.
***Savannah*** for a ST site back in the 30s.
Doreen
The players union wouldn’t allow a cap.I believe Curt Flood(Cardinal player)who sacrificed his career,because the court case was so long,didn’t get to benefit from what he started Free Agency.His case was shot down in the US Supreme Court,but a few years later FA was upheld IN COURT,past his playing years.
I DON’T THINK THE PLAYERS WILL GO BACK,Selig knows that,hence Revenue sharing and Luxury tax!!
damon enjoy..
When I heard the discussion I was thinking about much the same thing.
Anyway, all of this only seems to be a problem that MUST BE FIXED NOW when the Yankees win. The Yankees can buy every available free agent and spend to their heart’s content as long as they don’t win. People don’t seem to care quite as much.
What’s up with this offseason? There has been literally nothing going on, and not just with the Yankees…every team (except the White Sox who have already added Omar Vizquel, Andruw Jones and Mark Teahen).
BoSox desperate Miguel Cabrera (drunk Tigers player)that partied the night before last game of season with some Twins players,fought with wife,went to jail,bailed out by mgr next day.Nesn has an article saying he makes sense for them.He’ll cost them a fortune,126mm left on a recently extended 2008 contract!!
-Phillies in talks with bosox about Lowell.
Doreen
They were laughing the past 8 yrs,absolutely giddy,as the Yankees lost.Yankees had the players to win,they weren’t a team,just a bunch of legacy players,working on their personal stats.
MikeinBH, the economy has things going slow. The various teams have their plans, but are waiting till the big teams make their opening move(s). Once a team makes a signing or trade then things will get cooking.
The Indians have said that they were probably going to fill in spots from their farm system. Other teams may be thinking along the same way in an effort to curb spending.
Next season is going to see a bigger downturn in ticket sales due to the economy not recovering and unemployment at near 17%. Last year the economy was shaky, but unemployment wasn’t nearly as high. As a result the attendance at games wasn’t as affected as this coming season will be.
The market still will have to be determined by the bigger FAs out there as well. That gives a baseline for all the other players.
GB, Fort Meters, I think the KC Royals played there..I’m certain because Frank White robbed me of a 9th inning hit there in a FSL game…..Talk about a really good 2nd sacker..Although I always though Willie Randolph was the better skilled ballplayer…..
Check that……….Fort Meyers….Man I know I’m 15 pounds overweight, but I didn’t realize that it’s all in my fingers…..
Pat M.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
GB, Fort Meters, I think the KC Royals played there..I’m certain because Frank White robbed me of a 9th inning hit there in a FSL game…..Talk about a really good 2nd sacker..Although I always though Willie Randolph was the better skilled ballplayer…..
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Yeah, the Royals played there years ago, then moved up to Haines City on US 27 to Baseball World.
Stop acting like you were picked on. Frank white wasn’t particular. He robbed everyone. He was like Lou whittacker…the Ozzie Smiths of 2nd basemen. Writers never gave them much credit, but, other players and managers did. Along with Santo, Gawson, John, Kaat, Blyleven and Trammell, they should have been in the HOF years ago. A case could be made for Al Oliver, too.
Santo, ***Dawson***, John, Kaat
Pat M.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Check that……….Fort Meyers….Man I know I’m 15 pounds overweight, but I didn’t realize that it’s all in my fingers…..
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That’s the advantage of having a dog or the twins being here so much. I can blame them for typos.
Al Oliver, what a great swing…..All those players mentioned =, especially Ron Santo & Andre Dawson, to which I cannot understand how those two great players are not in Cooperstown…You can make a solid andvalid point on the others, but Dawson and Santo cries for some type of investigation…….I think Randy I, played with Al Oliver in the Senior league
“Betsey:
I thought it a shame today that on a day where Jeter was honored by SI, both Joel Sherman and Michael Kay had to criticize the decision. Kay and his bozo cohorts La Greca and Bonnie Bernstein (how I hate her) basically asked what qualifications Jeter had to win it? Sure, he had a great year and he’s a good guy, but Mauer probably gives to charity and he dominated his sport at his position; Mo is a great guy, Jimmy Johnson (sorry, please – Nascar?) had a great year. Those are the names they brought up,…… I’m no pollyanna, but Jeter is a worthy choice – I just don’t get why people have a problem with his selection.”
Michael Kay has become an old lady over the past two years – he bashes the Yankees on his radio show, then kisses their butts on YES and in person, and whines about everything….such a phoney – and I agree about Bonnie Bernstein – not a good addition to his show – LaGreca is a Mets fan, so I’m not surprised…..
what does arbitration even mean? it has always confused me