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	<title>Comments on: Tommy Henrich: 1913-2009</title>
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		<title>By: scoopemup</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/12/01/tommy-henrich-1913-2009/comment-page-3/#comment-1164350</link>
		<dc:creator>scoopemup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gozzlehead---Mickey Rivers
Gooneybird---Don Larsen
...and an all time fave  Elroy&#039;in your&#039;Face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gozzlehead&#8212;Mickey Rivers<br />
Gooneybird&#8212;Don Larsen<br />
&#8230;and an all time fave  Elroy&#8217;in your&#8217;Face.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Simms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Simms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody mentioned the Iron Horse?</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich

I should mention that before the rise of the player&#039;s union under labor attorney Marvin Miller, players were discouraged by management from revealing or discussing their salaries as this would provide in incentive to drive up wages.</description>
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<p>I should mention that before the rise of the player&#8217;s union under labor attorney Marvin Miller, players were discouraged by management from revealing or discussing their salaries as this would provide in incentive to drive up wages.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich

I haven&#039;t found any centralized database of salary information dating back that far. I have found alot of cumulative data on team revenues and overall player salaries in books by Andrew Zimbalist and Gerald Scully on baseball and economics. 
Additionally, many players have revealed their salaries in their autobiographies (Cobb, Bouton, damn near every biography I&#039;ve ever read on baseball), but I know of no single place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t found any centralized database of salary information dating back that far. I have found alot of cumulative data on team revenues and overall player salaries in books by Andrew Zimbalist and Gerald Scully on baseball and economics.<br />
Additionally, many players have revealed their salaries in their autobiographies (Cobb, Bouton, damn near every biography I&#8217;ve ever read on baseball), but I know of no single place.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Vogel

Good points. Scouting is critical.

Steinbrenner went completely nuts after the 1981 WS loss, and then arrogated too much power to himself.

Is there comparative payroll data for the &#039;50s and &#039;60s. I&#039;m searching Baseball-Reference.com, but I can&#039;t find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Vogel</p>
<p>Good points. Scouting is critical.</p>
<p>Steinbrenner went completely nuts after the 1981 WS loss, and then arrogated too much power to himself.</p>
<p>Is there comparative payroll data for the &#8217;50s and &#8217;60s. I&#8217;m searching Baseball-Reference.com, but I can&#8217;t find it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just getting a workout in and watching Studio 42 with Costas. Anybody else following this series? I love listening to these Costas interviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just getting a workout in and watching Studio 42 with Costas. Anybody else following this series? I love listening to these Costas interviews.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich

Absolutely (bearing a resemblence to Cashman&#039;s contemporary situation). However, I would argue that he combined greater financial resources with a great deal of precision and financial accountability (unlike the Steibrenner &#039;80&#039;s, the Phillips/Duquette/Minaya Mets, etc.) as he assembled an elaborate farm system and number of working agreements with minor league teams that filtered a tremendous inventory of talented players to the Yankees. 
For example, in the first half of the &#039;50&#039;s, the Red Sox had a comparable lineup to the Yankees, but their depth in bench and pitching was nowhere near the Yankees. I attribute this to their never ending supply of minor league talent. I will of course stipulate that they did buy some high-end amateur talent (DiMaggio, Lazzeri, etc.), but many of their amateur acquisitions were a result of an extensive scouting network and a belief that signing a large number of relatively inexpensive amateur players will ultimately yield a sufficient number of quality players to compete. Not all teams could invest in such a system as a large difference in teams revenues and ownership wealth existed (see the Browns, Senators, Braves, Phillies), but the point is that Weiss placed an emphasis on this long-term, self-sustaining approach. 
Perhaps I&#039;m still bitter at the Steinbrenner &#039;80&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich</p>
<p>Absolutely (bearing a resemblence to Cashman&#8217;s contemporary situation). However, I would argue that he combined greater financial resources with a great deal of precision and financial accountability (unlike the Steibrenner &#8217;80&#8242;s, the Phillips/Duquette/Minaya Mets, etc.) as he assembled an elaborate farm system and number of working agreements with minor league teams that filtered a tremendous inventory of talented players to the Yankees.<br />
For example, in the first half of the &#8217;50&#8242;s, the Red Sox had a comparable lineup to the Yankees, but their depth in bench and pitching was nowhere near the Yankees. I attribute this to their never ending supply of minor league talent. I will of course stipulate that they did buy some high-end amateur talent (DiMaggio, Lazzeri, etc.), but many of their amateur acquisitions were a result of an extensive scouting network and a belief that signing a large number of relatively inexpensive amateur players will ultimately yield a sufficient number of quality players to compete. Not all teams could invest in such a system as a large difference in teams revenues and ownership wealth existed (see the Browns, Senators, Braves, Phillies), but the point is that Weiss placed an emphasis on this long-term, self-sustaining approach.<br />
Perhaps I&#8217;m still bitter at the Steinbrenner &#8217;80&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Vogel

Don&#039;t you think that a large part of the reason why Weiss was effective was that he could sign pretty much any player he wanted?</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t you think that a large part of the reason why Weiss was effective was that he could sign pretty much any player he wanted?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Vogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Vogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich

In my original post on this subject, that historically most common given reason is the one I was arguing against by claiming that the Weiss departure weighed more heavily than the instituting of the draft (Not to say that the draft had no deleterious effect).
Interestingly, the uptick in talent procuration from Latin America in the &#039;80&#039;s brought baseball somewhat closer to the &#039;30&#039;s-&#039;50&#039;s as teams such as the Dodgers and Blue Jays principally built their organizations on Latin American talent that wasn&#039;t subject to the American draft. In this &quot;Wild West&quot; time, the most innovative, effecient, and locally connected teams were able to gain a competitive advantage on their deeper-pocketed brethren who lacked the vision to see this repository of talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich</p>
<p>In my original post on this subject, that historically most common given reason is the one I was arguing against by claiming that the Weiss departure weighed more heavily than the instituting of the draft (Not to say that the draft had no deleterious effect).<br />
Interestingly, the uptick in talent procuration from Latin America in the &#8217;80&#8242;s brought baseball somewhat closer to the &#8217;30&#8242;s-&#8217;50&#8242;s as teams such as the Dodgers and Blue Jays principally built their organizations on Latin American talent that wasn&#8217;t subject to the American draft. In this &#8220;Wild West&#8221; time, the most innovative, effecient, and locally connected teams were able to gain a competitive advantage on their deeper-pocketed brethren who lacked the vision to see this repository of talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich in NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich in NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A large part of the reason the Yankees&#039; talent stream dried up in the &#039;60s was the advent of the amateur draft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A large part of the reason the Yankees&#8217; talent stream dried up in the &#8217;60s was the advent of the amateur draft.</p>
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