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He’s still the Boss

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Dec 03, 2009 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have been having their organizational meetings in Tampa today and apparently George Steinbrenner was in the house during some of the conversations.

At this point in his life, The Boss isn’t the commanding presence that he once was but it’s nice to hear that he was at least in the room as the planning for No. 28 heats up. Of course, if Steinbrenner were his old self, you can only imagine what the directives to Brian Cashman would have been:

1. Trade for Halladay
2. Sign Holliday
3. Sign Lackey
4. Force a deal for King Felix
5. Start pushing to get Mauer

Oh, and the Boss would have wanted all of that done yesterday.

 
 

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219 Responses to “He’s still the Boss”

  1. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    I think it’s great that he was able to join them.

  2. James December 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Quite the rotation: CC, Doc, King Felix, Lackey, Burnett. Would they even play out the season. We might lose ten games. And that’s a stretch.

    Sorry, what? I just woke up.

  3. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I like the way George thinks.

  4. Abdababdaserser December 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Depending on his condition, he might still be calling some of the shots. He might be helping Hal with seeing things as HE sees them.

    I definitely think the Boss would be going for Halladay and Holliday. It seems like his MO.

    Next week should bring out some very interesting rumors, if not some moves.

  5. Abdababdaserser December 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    Hmmm, doesn’t it make you wonder how it can be determined that a team is a “frontrunner” for a FA?

    Anyway, the Mariners seem to be the “frontrunners” for Figgins, making him a 4 year offer in excess of 30 million.

    M’s might be making that move to become the kings of the west.

  6. Rich in NJ December 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    6. Get me Costanza.

  7. Sam Borden December 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Rich — No doubt. Should have remembered that one. Great pull.

  8. TJ December 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    ….and a calzone!

  9. CompassRosy December 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    Abdababdaserser December 3rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
    I think the Angels have been more reluctant to spend money recently also. Not saying they are going on the cheap, but they let K-Rod go and Teixeira go with just lip service. Vlad, Figgins, Lackey could all be gone from them as well, though I think they will try to keep one of those three.

    The Mariners have turned things around this past season, they have some decent pitching to go with Felix, if they add Lackey or Harden they have a tough rotation to beat. They do need a bit of offense, but they weren’t that far behind the Angels, the Rangers are another team to watch, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see their pitching fall off a bit from being pushed harder this past season.

    I have a feeling the Mariners are going to be in good position to take the West in 2010.

    Here’s hoping your “feeling” becomes reality ;-)

  10. DT - OPPC member December 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    I guess we won’t know the juicy details of this Tampa/big Stein meeting until Girardi and Verducci write their book.

  11. jake December 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    Lets see…so after this offseason, this is how the lineup COULD look :P

    1. Damon RF
    2. Jeter SS
    3. Teixeira 1B
    4. Arod 3b
    5. Holliday LF
    6. Posada C
    7. Matsui DH
    8. Cano 2b
    9. Granderson CF

    Rotation:
    CC
    Felix Hernendez
    Roy Halladay
    Lackey
    AJ Burnett

    SOUNDS GOOOD! Get it done CASH! LOL

    I definitely think this is what we should do…

    TRADE for Roy Hallady (A-jax, Joba, 1 extra prospect)
    TRY to trade for Granderson (Melky, IPK, + 1 more?)

    SIGN Damon
    SIGN Matsui
    SIGN Pettite

  12. down with prospect huggers December 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    George S: “oh and get that Pujols guy to play first base – I didn’t like the way Teixeira embarrassed me in the playoffs this year – that friggen Mr. July”

  13. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    I think the Jays are looking for position players with a front of the rotation type pitcher …Remember before all the vast injuries that decimated the roation, the Jays have some very good young arms that are in the 25-26 age bracket…..

  14. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    This just in, the Red Sox are interested in Babe Ruth.

  15. NH Yankee fan December 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Can anyone confirm that the hot prospect from Bos Casey Kelly was picked right after NYY took Gerrit Cole. Am i remembering that correctly? If so, wow!

  16. Chris December 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    NH –

    I believe that is true – the Sox had the better record after the 2007 season – so going into the 2008 draft they would pick after us.

  17. lenNY's Yankees December 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Hey Sam, if I were George reading that, I’d be a little ticked off. I know you are joking a bit, but I don’t think he was that outrageous.

  18. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    Matt Millen: “The Jets are running the crap out of the football tonight.”

    :roll:

  19. Sam Borden December 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Nick:
    I’ve got it on in the background and did a sort of double-take, like, “did he just say that??????”

  20. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    Many of Yankee fans have been seduced with big ticket players ever since the days of Catfish, Reggie, Goose, Winfield….Then came Mussina , Giambino and then struck in rich last season with CC, AJ, & Texeria…..However, there were some dark days of Kemp, Smalley, Griffey, Baylor, Wynagar etc….Halladay is seducing to say the least, however the cost is & will be devastating in a few years….The key is to put on the field a team that can compete for a Championship…..What the club does have is pitching to compete, but what they are soft in is offense and outfield defense…..One player can alter the dynamics to the later, a player like Granderson , or next season a Carl Craford if he’s attainable…..The ofense along with an outfielder of merit is what is needed first…And re-signing Matsui……..Pitching is not a soft spot.

  21. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Nick in SF, I can’t find the game anywhere …No live streamer options at all……….

  22. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    Is it possible that Matt Millen’s NFL/broadcasting career arc is on its downside?

    Pat M, are you declaring against trading for Doc Halladay???? Do we know what the real cost would be??

  23. i miss bernie December 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    lensny’s you must be pretty young…ever heard of howie spira?

  24. Austin M. Matherne December 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    You forgot about signing Bay to DH…

  25. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Pat M, I can’t help much with streaming, only have blackberry internet, but try justin.tv

  26. timo December 3rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    They got good Nielsens with Josh Daniels’ tirade, so the producers told Millen to go with it.

  27. Ham Fighters December 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    ok lenNY since you’re only a kid, i understand how you could be so wrong about old george…

  28. Jeremy December 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    The Mariners look like they are serious. I think the Angels aren’t going to win the AL West next year especially if the Mariners get Lackey, and Figgins. Texas is a threat as well. I hope the Angels fail next year because their fans are so stupid and annoying.

  29. Yankee Trader December 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    This is just a rumor that XM MLB Radio is reporting that Scutaro is signing with the Red Sox.

    Bay, by the “way”
    will most likely be resigned by the Red Sox since he’s a perfect pull hitter for that park and a RBI machine.

    If we resign low cost options in Matsui and trade for Granderson, I really think the Yankees can trade for Halladay, without giving up Hughes or Joba or Montero.

  30. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Nick in SF….I did find a site thathas the game via Fox somewhere, however it’s a stop and go situation….I’m not against getting the Doc at all….I just don’t view it as the # 1 priority …Although he’s a sexy seduction for the staff……I don’t want to give up too much in excahnge for a 100 million dollar pitcher…….

  31. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    Pat M.
    December 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    Many of Yankee fans have been seduced with big ticket players ever since the days of Catfish, Reggie, Goose, Winfield….Then came Mussina , Giambino and then struck in rich last season with CC, AJ, & Texeria…..However, there were some dark days of Kemp, Smalley, Griffey, Baylor, Wynagar etc….Halladay is seducing to say the least, however the cost is & will be devastating in a few years….The key is to put on the field a team that can compete for a Championship…..What the club does have is pitching to compete, but what they are soft in is offense and outfield defense…..One player can alter the dynamics to the later, a player like Granderson , or next season a Carl Craford if he’s attainable…..The ofense along with an outfielder of merit is what is needed first…And re-signing Matsui……..Pitching is not a soft spot.

    ————————————————————

    I always liked the pickup of Ken Griffey Sr., Ricky Henderson, Jimmy Key and Tommy John. I was less than enthused with Ed Whitson, Andy Hawkins, Ken Phelps and Dave Collins. One of the Yanks’ worst trades just before George bought the team was Stan Bahnsen for Rich McKinney….one of the 3 or 4 worst trades in Yankee history.

  32. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Pat M.
    December 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
    Nick in SF, I can’t find the game anywhere …No live streamer options at all……….

    ————————————————————

    PAT M, if you have DirecTV, it’s on channel 212.

  33. Jeremy December 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    The Yankees don’t need Halladay. The future looks bright for the Yankees with the farm system, and the FA market down the line. Why trade for a guy and give up all that talent when you might still win a few championships over the next couple of years ? That kind of thinking created ruts for this organization and George was responsible for that. I like what George has done and his passion for winning, but a number of choices he made did not help the team. example: 1980-1994, 2004-2008.

    Some fans need to stop thinking about buying players, they should be thinking about developing talent and buying players.

  34. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Pat M, it might not be the top priority (or it might be) but sometimes the logic and momentum of the deal dictates the timing and importance…then the other dominoes fall.

    Or who knows, maybe Cash deals for Granderson or Player X and the pieces for Halladay fall off the table. That’s what makes the speculation both entertaining and infuriating…

    David Cone was a pretty good trade pickup… a little older, yet an absolute warrior for the Bombers…the heart of the core of the Dynasty rotation…

  35. just another handle December 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    The former author of this blog was not without fault but at least most of the content was noteworthy and evenhanded.

    Reading this post is akin to eating too much candy thus making one’s teeth hurt.

    I have reserved making any judgments up to this point but the pom-pom waving is really over the top here now.

    Sad.

    This was once a edgy, savvy place to come because of the former author and several of the posters whose baseball acumen far surpassed my own which allowed me to gain more insight into the game itself.

    In any event, it was fun while it lasted.

    Later…much later.

  36. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    The Jets for once allowed Sanchez to throw down field in the first half, rather than waiting until the game tightened up.

    Braylon Edwards reminds me of Homer Jones – he giveth and he taketh away, but he is a beast.

    How many people here who are ready to jump off a cliff if Miranda actually spends some time at DH have actually seen him bat beyond his cup of coffee in the Bronx? That is the question.

    Champ – I feel stupid even confirming with you that he has legit lefty power.

    I don’t claim to have any idea if the Yankees are serious about having him in the mix. On the other hand, I can see no reason why they would be cavalier about his bat.

    To hear people talk here, it’s as if he’s a LH Shelley Duncan.

  37. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) December 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    If I’m Cashman, I would call Cleveland to see what’s the price on Grady Sizemore? The Indians already got Mike Brantley to fill the hole.

  38. Rich in NJ December 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    “The former author of this blog was not without fault but at least most of the content was noteworthy and evenhanded.”

    I’m sure Alex Rodriguez would agree.

  39. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Girardi might be a good teacher but that doesn’t make Sanchez a good pupil.

  40. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Whoever said that Hughes and Joba fight it out for the 5th spot and the loser goes to the BP – sorry, I’ve been trying to watch the Jets and Penguins games while scrolling on 3 different Yankee sites – the idea that the Yankees spent the year hand wringing trying to get Joba under his innings cap, only to turn around and banish him to the BP in 2010, seems beyond far fetched to me.

    Hughes could be a BP candidate – once he nears his innings limit and for no other reason.

    Sanchez has injured his knee and is out of the game.

  41. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    The 1982 remake of the Yanks was a disaster.

  42. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    just another handle
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
    The former author of this blog was not without fault but at least most of the content was noteworthy and evenhanded.

    Reading this post is akin to eating too much candy thus making one’s teeth hurt.

    I have reserved making any judgments up to this point but the pom-pom waving is really over the top here now.

    Sad.

    This was once a edgy, savvy place to come because of the former author and several of the posters whose baseball acumen far surpassed my own which allowed me to gain more insight into the game itself.

    In any event, it was fun while it lasted.

    Later…much later.

    ————————————————————

    Good-bye, Pete. Don’t let the doorknob catch you.

  43. mike eff December 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Just Another Handle–

    we won’t miss you—

  44. RS December 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    I’d rather the Red Sox sign Bay than Holliday. Bay will hit 35 homeruns but he’ll also have a low BA (.260-.280) and strike out 140+ times. Holliday at Fenway Park scares me more. I could see him putting up numbers similar to his MVP season (.330 BA, 35 HR, 50 2B) and of course, his defense would improve playing in that teeny tiny LF.

  45. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    I’d rather see Holliday in LF at Yankee Stadium

  46. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
    The Jets for once allowed Sanchez to throw down field in the first half, rather than waiting until the game tightened up.

    Braylon Edwards reminds me of Homer Jones – he giveth and he taketh away, but he is a beast.

    How many people here who are ready to jump off a cliff if Miranda actually spends some time at DH have actually seen him bat beyond his cup of coffee in the Bronx? That is the question.

    Champ – I feel stupid even confirming with you that he has legit lefty power.

    I don’t claim to have any idea if the Yankees are serious about having him in the mix. On the other hand, I can see no reason why they would be cavalier about his bat.

    To hear people talk here, it’s as if he’s a LH Shelley Duncan.

    ————————————————————

    If NYY pulls off a deal with Toronto, you can bet that Miranda is in the deal. He’s part of what they are looking for. A power hitting 1Bman/DH from the left side. Not the most important part, but, more filler. They know they have time for him to come around. NYY can’t afford that. Also, either Nunez or Pena will go along with a young catcher. The pitchers involved is anybody’s guess, though, surely, Hughes or Chamberlain will be part of the main attraction.

  47. dennis-Costanza December 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    Nick SF, GB7, Pat M.

    Hope you are all well.

    GB7. It would be great to get together with you, Amy and I in Sav over the coming months.

    -dennis

  48. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Scutaro is a Sock pending a physical.

  49. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    Dennis-Costanza, Someone earlier put out APB on you…..

  50. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    dennis, great to see you, I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. And I hope you have a piece of the Civil War over.

  51. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    If NYY pulls off a deal with Toronto, you can bet that Miranda is in the deal. He’s part of what they are looking for. A power hitting 1Bman/DH from the left side. Not the most important part, but, more filler. They know they have time for him to come around. NYY can’t afford that. Also, either Nunez or Pena will go along with a young catcher. The pitchers involved is anybody’s guess, though, surely, Hughes or Chamberlain will be part of the main attraction.
    ===========

    Well, if he’s Canada-bound then the discussion is moot. However, if he is here, I see no reason why the Yankees wouldn’t want to take advantage of his bat.

    And I’m not giving Joba or Hughes to Toronto. That’s just not in the cards. If Cashman does this – he’s stupid. I’m not giving them Gary Sanchez either.

  52. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Good evening, Dennis. Great to see you on again. Hope all is well with you and Ms Amy. Hope to see you guys soon.

  53. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    So I guess this means we won’t be seeing Pedroia at SS

  54. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    I don’t think Cashman is stupid to include Joba in a deal for Hallday. You could argue that he’d be stupid not to if that was the only thing holding it up. In five years Joba could be #2 type starter, a #4 or 5 starter, or in the bullpen. Hes a question mark, he worth trading for the best pitcher in baseball

  55. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    It’s a two year deal for Scutaro.

  56. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    If the Toronto trade falls through, I’m sure that Miranda will get his swings in NY against right handers. I’m not that committed to him against left handers, yet. I too would prefer keeping Chamberlain and Hughes and sending Coke, with Noesi or Nova and McAllister. Of the catchers, neither would be Romine or Montero. I’m still hoping they give Romine a shot at a corner outfield spot in Trenton or Scranton.

  57. Boston Dave - XXVII December 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Sox reportedly did sign Scutaro. no terms yet.

    Does anybody have any defensive stats on him?

  58. Boston Dave - XXVII December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Phil,

    Not terrible for Boston then. I had originally heard he’d asked for 3 with a possible option for a 4th.

  59. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    I’d love to be able to get Halladay without giving up Joba or Hughes. I just don’t see that happening, but I could be wrong.

  60. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    br probably has them.

  61. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    I don’t think Cashman is doing this – this is the same discussion that came up last July.

    People on here and elsewhere screaming we MUST have Halladay, we MUST.

    No – we must keep our two 23-year old pitchers (Joba may have turned 24) and demonstrate we are serious about developing our own arms.

    To those who can’t stand to look at what is an unfamiliar (to Yankee fans) and sometimes painful process, stick to your fantasy baseball league.

  62. dennis-Costanza December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Both my Mom and Dad have been in and out of the hospital the last 2 months. My Dad-Prostate and my Mom-Heart. I also lost a good bud to cancer.

    No free time.

    We are in Maine one more week to help my folks get ready for winter. We will drive back to SAV next Tuesday/Wed. GB7 lets have a beer in the historic district by our place, I owe since you guys won #27.

    Pat M/Nick. Hope you guys have made $ on football. I will be back playing this weekend.

    -dennis

  63. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    They couldn’t move Sanchez in a deal for another 6-8 months, anyway. He’s ineligible to be traded until 1 year after signing.

  64. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    dennis, very sorry to read that. Hope things go well.

  65. Boston Dave - XXVII December 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    dennis,

    very sorry to hear that. best wishes and prayers…

  66. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    If the Toronto trade falls through, I’m sure that Miranda will get his swings in NY against right handers. I’m not that committed to him against left handers, yet. I too would prefer keeping Chamberlain and Hughes and sending Coke, with Noesi or Nova and McAllister. Of the catchers, neither would be Romine or Montero. I’m still hoping they give Romine a shot at a corner outfield spot in Trenton or Scranton.
    =====

    Coke, Noesi, Nova and McAllister is a nice fetch for Toronto. They can have them for Halladay.

    Three of those guys can pitch for them in 2010, and Noesi has a good arm. I don’t want to part with Romine either – how many young bats do we have close to the majors?

    Montero and Ajax are off the table. Not giving up up the middle guys with upside.

    Honestly, I can live without reeling in Roy.

  67. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    dennis-Costanza
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
    Both my Mom and Dad have been in and out of the hospital the last 2 months. My Dad-Prostate and my Mom-Heart. I also lost a good bud to cancer.

    No free time.

    We are in Maine one more week to help my folks get ready for winter. We will drive back to SAV next Tuesday/Wed. GB7 lets have a beer in the historic district by our place, I owe since you guys won #27.

    Pat M/Nick. Hope you guys have made $ on football. I will be back playing this weekend.

    -dennis

    ————————————————————

    sounds like a deal, Dennis. I have to fly to Tampa next week to get some things looked at. Seems that they found a dark spot on the left lung. I just figured that the doctors got mixed up and were looking at my black heart. After Christmas will be as soon as I can get to Savannah.

  68. Boston Dave - XXVII December 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    “Coke, Noesi, Nova and McAllister is a nice fetch for Toronto. They can have them for Halladay.”

    ———–

    try convincing Peter Gammons it’s a nice fetch :)

    he’d cry for a month about how bad it is for baseball.

  69. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    They couldn’t move Sanchez in a deal for another 6-8 months, anyway. He’s ineligible to be traded until 1 year after signing.
    ====

    Right, we just signed him. Love the early on his bat. His defense is a little more advanced than Jesus. I really am not interested in parting with him, JR or even Higgie this early in the game. There’s another one – Valera, I think – whose supposed to have a power bat.

    I read your post about Abeita – I’d heard good things about him, but also that he doesn’t have great upside.

  70. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Best wishes to you too, GB7.

  71. Rich in NJ December 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    So much for Pedroia playing SS.

  72. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    Boston Dave – XXVII
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
    “Coke, Noesi, Nova and McAllister is a nice fetch for Toronto. They can have them for Halladay.”
    ———–
    try convincing Peter Gammons it’s a nice fetch
    he’d cry for a month about how bad it is for baseball.
    =====

    The man is a pathetic cheerleader who has finagled a credential. Send him a box of handkerchiefs.

  73. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Rich in NJ
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    So much for Pedroia playing SS.
    ====

    Nevertheless, there will be several columns on the heroic Pedroia’s willingness to sacrifice his status as the greatest 2B in major league history.

  74. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Dennis, For the season, I’m down a few bucks in the NFL, up a few bucks in College FB & College B-Ball…..With USC not being a factor & UCLA Hoops being what it is, I’m not playing as much as I normally would…..I do have the Jets & Oregon State tonight

  75. RS December 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    “Scutaro is a Sock pending a physical.”

    Good. I’d love to see them lose a first round draft pick on one of the most mediocre players in baseball.

  76. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Bodh, Montero and Jackson are probably the closest, though Russo maybe later in the year. Nunez could probably hold his own (about like Pena), but, still needs to figure out the defense. I really hated to see them lose Todd Linden to Japan, last year. He’d have made a decent outfield fill-in at all three spots.

  77. dennis-Costanza December 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Nick/Boston Dave, PatM, Thanks. Really weird, crazy, sad few months.

    GB7 Good Luck! Amy and I will be in SAV until late May. We should have a beer and you can see first hand that I married over my head and the photographer that you have work up in your house.

    -dennis

  78. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    The fun of this offseason is gonna be hearing Gammons whine and do his “deplore” face and shrunken gestures when he has to talk about the unfolding of the Yankees excellent plan.

  79. blake December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    Geez, now Pedroia won’t get a chance to take all of Jeter’s SS awards next year…

  80. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    And Dennis,

    God bless you and your folks.

  81. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    GB, Hang tough

  82. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Isn’t he about 35?

    The Jets need a FG.

  83. Betsy - high on pie December 3rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Glad to hear that George was active in the meetings. The old Boss would have barked directives as Sam detailed above, but not the Boss that gave in to Cashman after 2005. Finally, he let his baseball people do their thing………

  84. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    They couldn’t move Sanchez in a deal for another 6-8 months, anyway. He’s ineligible to be traded until 1 year after signing.
    ====

    Right, we just signed him. Love the early on his bat. His defense is a little more advanced than Jesus. I really am not interested in parting with him, JR or even Higgie this early in the game. There’s another one – Valera, I think – whose supposed to have a power bat.

    I read your post about Abeita – I’d heard good things about him, but also that he doesn’t have great upside.

    ————————————————————

    I’m undecided about Abeita. The times I saw him, he hit well, but, overall, the numbers were rather unimpressive. Defense was ok. One other catcher that’s iffy is Kyle Anson.

  85. bru December 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    RS
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
    “Scutaro is a Sock pending a physical.”

    Good. I’d love to see them lose a first round draft pick on one of the most mediocre players in baseball.

    ———————————————————-

    they still get a 1st round pick for losing wagner

  86. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    The word on Abeita, who I thought was gonna be a bonus prospect for us, is that he was reluctant to make needed adjustments. Sort of an older version of Angelini in terms of his belief in what brung him.

  87. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus December 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    I hear you guys have a problem with my taste in men.

  88. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    dennis-Costanza
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Nick/Boston Dave, PatM, Thanks. Really weird, crazy, sad few months.

    GB7 Good Luck! Amy and I will be in SAV until late May. We should have a beer and you can see first hand that I married over my head and the photographer that you have work up in your house.

    -dennis

    ————————————————————

    Thanks, Dennis. Maybe Amy married you for the same reasons that people chose the ugly puppies….because somebody had to take them or they’d starve to death.

  89. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    Bodh, Montero and Jackson are probably the closest, though Russo maybe later in the year. Nunez could probably hold his own (about like Pena), but, still needs to figure out the defense. I really hated to see them lose Todd Linden to Japan, last year. He’d have made a decent outfield fill-in at all three spots.
    =======

    One guy who Reed seems unduly excited about is Corona. Russo, I understand. Corona I have seen a lot of and he has not lived up to his defensive billing. He has been an uneasy infielder every time I’ve seen him live. What’s your take on him?

  90. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Revis is unreal. I didn’t think the Jets would trump Aaron Glenn, but Revis does.

  91. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Thanks, PAT M and Nick. Much appreciate the kind words. I’m not overly concerned. Worse things can and have happened.

  92. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    I like Corona cause he gets on base.

  93. Betsy - high on pie December 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    10:01pm: The deal will include a mutual option for a third year, according to Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald (via Twitter).

    9:46pm: Price also reports that it is a two-year deal (via Twitter). The signing will result in Toronto receiving a supplemental pick and Boston’s first rounder (#29), provided that they do not sign a higher-ranking Type A free agent who was offered arbitration.

  94. dennis-Costanza December 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    GB7.

    LOL. I think I just talked her into it.I didn’t shut up so she said OK….

    -dennis

  95. pat December 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    Scared of Sweeny Murti calling it 3 hours ago!

    Jets-Bills at Rogers Centre. Is Revis allowed to yell “Ha!” to keep TO from catching the ball?
    about 3 hours ago from TwitterBerry

  96. Betsy - high on pie December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Oops, sorry – here’s the link:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....rsday.html

    **Hardly a surprise…..

  97. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Bodh, never was all that excited about Corona, neither on defense or offense. I always figured at best, he would be a Brian Doyle, pre and post’78 World Series.

  98. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    I also like Russo cause he gets on base, but I think he’s gonna be in a trade.

  99. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    Phil
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
    The word on Abeita, who I thought was gonna be a bonus prospect for us, is that he was reluctant to make needed adjustments. Sort of an older version of Angelini in terms of his belief in what brung him.
    ====

    I saw Angellini in Staten Island’s last home playoff game and he had a very strong game defensively. He made two stellar plays in the field, showing range, surehandedness and decisiveness. Of course, it was one game, but he was impressive that night. My understanding is he’s begun to address some of his issues.

  100. pat December 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Rebecca

    If you’re happy, I’m happy! :smile:

  101. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Rebecca, All I said, that if it was true that you’re dating sports writer and he were in the Tri-State area, you’d be the better writer…..I thnk I threw out a 75 % better than the current local sports scribes…..I forget, and that was the extent of my input…..However it did get some play time last night….

  102. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    Angelini is all kinds of talented, he just doesn’t take instruction or make adjustments well, so far.

  103. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    dennis-Costanza
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:12 pm
    GB7.

    LOL. I think I just talked her into it.I didn’t shut up so she said OK….

    -dennis

    ————————————————————

    I think there’s a legal word for that. Stalking comes to mind.

    I had to kidnap mine. She eventually learned to tolerate me. She got over that, though.

  104. TD December 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    6. Get me Costanza.

    brilliant!

  105. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Good for the BoSox, now they need to find a 1st baseman & or a 3rd baseman, a leftfielder, and approx 3 relievers

  106. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Rebecca: don’t believe the hype. We’re happy you aren’t going out with an Iranian nuclear scientist.

  107. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    I’m undecided about Abeita. The times I saw him, he hit well, but, overall, the numbers were rather unimpressive. Defense was ok. One other catcher that’s iffy is Kyle Anson.
    =====

    Isn’t Anson in his late 20s?

    Oh I missed that part about your appointment GB7. I wish you a positive outcome and good health.

    Dennis, if you are still on, hoping for your family’s well being.

  108. Mike Ashmore December 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    For what it’s worth, if anyone wants to discuss the relevance of the team I followed growing up to the job I do now, please e-mail me at mashmore98 AT gmail.com and I’ll be happy to discuss it.

    I’ve addressed this in the past, and I’ll continue to address it…despite the fact there’s really nothing to address.

    Some people, no matter what I say, will think I’m biased no matter what…but hey, at least you can understand the thought process that goes into the job.

  109. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    Anson converted to catcher sort of late, but had ungodly pop times and used to be a patient hitter. He was looking like a good back-up for awhile.

  110. bru December 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    girrardi

    On Phil Hughes’ role in 2010: “A lot of our decisions will be based on what we do this winter. We still consider him a starter, but his role could depend on what we do this winter

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0YgsT6ka9

  111. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
    Bodh, never was all that excited about Corona, neither on defense or offense. I always figured at best, he would be a Brian Doyle, pre and post’78 World Series.
    =====

    Doyle was solid, lol. Corona, whom I’ve seen about a half a dozen times live, comes off as defensively flaky. Just don’t get the love.

  112. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    So Mike,

    You’re a Sox fan, right?

  113. Mike Ashmore December 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    While I’m here, Anson’s 26. http://stats.howesportsdata.co.....n,Kyle.txt

    Wasn’t very impressive last year in Trenton, but was solid defensively if nothing else.

  114. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm

    Coordinated tag-team assault???

  115. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Anson is going to be 27 years old in April. Not sure if he’s Rule 5 or not, but, he wouldn’t be protected anyway.

  116. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus December 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    Pat = =)

    Pat M = insightful, as always, but for the sake of my relationship I cannot directly address that comment.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t care what team you support, just that you like the sport.

    At any rate, if our entire relationship is founded on fanhood, then we’d have some serious issues to address.

  117. Farid December 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    funny boy don’t be a Iranian hater.

  118. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Mike Ashmore
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    For what it’s worth, if anyone wants to discuss the relevance of the team I followed growing up to the job I do now, please e-mail me at mashmore98 AT gmail.com and I’ll be happy to discuss it.
    I’ve addressed this in the past, and I’ll continue to address it…despite the fact there’s really nothing to address.
    Some people, no matter what I say, will think I’m biased no matter what…but hey, at least you can understand the thought process that goes into the job.
    ======

    I think the crux of the discussion was more about your analysis of Nunez. Someone said – in jest, I think – that your observations on him were probably cavalier because you rooted for the Red Sox.

    I, for one, didn’t take that seriously. I did wonder why you were unimpressed with Nunez’s tremendous range – for you didn’t mention it – and I thought that you might have probed a little deeper on his throwing issues. However, you are entitled to your opinion – mine is that he’s a stud and his shortcomings can be qualified, are fluid, and mostly secondary concerns, in light of his ability. But to each his own.

  119. Mike Ashmore December 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Phil,

    I grew up going to Trenton Thunder games as a kid. First minor league game I ever went to was a Thunder game when I was 12, actually.

    I always thought it was cool that I could see players before they went to the big leagues, and the team they went to happened to be the Red Sox, so that was the team I followed for a while. I was a Braves fan as a very little kid because I used to watch them a lot on TBS with my dad, but that kind of faded away with time.

    Honestly, I’m really not a fan of any big league team right now, mainly because I don’t have time to do so. I root for the Sox when they play, yes…but I also cheer for the guys who I’ve covered who came through Trenton and went onto New York as well. If that makes me a Sox fan, then so be it.

    But whether I am or I’m not, it has no effect on the job I do. It’s not like I’m sitting in the press box going…man, that sure was a nice play by Jesus Montero…but I wish I was watching George Kottaras instead! Not at all. I love covering the Thunder. There are people who make in a week what I make in a year, so if that wasn’t the case, I wouldn’t do it. And I bust my ass providing the coverage that I do…I’d do it if they were a Yankees affiliate, a Royals affiliate, a Red Sox affiliate, a Phillies affiliate, a Mets affiliate…whatever. Cover whatever team it is you’re covering to the best of your ability and without bias.

  120. DT - OPPC member December 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    GB – thanks for the Rich McKinney flashback. Now I have to sleep with the night light on to counter the nightmares.

  121. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    No worries, “Farid”; love is my motivation, not hate. :)

  122. Abdababdaserser December 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    I wonder if Scutaro getting a 2 year deal with 1 option will reduce the demands that Boras is making on behalf of Damon for a 4 year deal.

    Interesting that this move happened before the Winter Meeting. I am sure the RS have a plan that they intend to go with, Scutaro is just a beginning. Unless of course the Yanks blow up their plans with moves of their own.

  123. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    Additionally, I want to say that most people have not been sportswriters.

    Having covered the NFL and NHL for 10 years, I have seen the “underside” of journalism, that includes being in the press box at World Junior Tournaments, next to highly respected hockey columnists for the Globe & Mail, etc., who root shamelessly for Canada and against the Russians and Czechs, jingo-ing their way through the games as they unfold, and writing their stories using the King’s english, but smitten with inflected bias.

    When I was on the national baseball desk for an international wire service, my boss, an old school baseball man, was a flaming Dodger fan.

    I have never believed in so-called “objective” journalism. It’s very rare. I do think most journalists attempt it, however.

  124. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    No worries, Mike, and I’m glad you got to enjoy some minor league ball growing up. And I really appreciate your transparency. It was lacking around here for a few years. I’ll keep enjoying your Thunder Blog.

  125. pat December 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    Rebecca

    I believe the consensus was as long as it wasn’t Pete, Lupica or Sherman, you had the blog blessing. :wink:

  126. Nick in SF December 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    pat: you forgot Gammons.

  127. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm
    GB – thanks for the Rich McKinney flashback. Now I have to sleep with the night light on to counter the nightmares.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah. That trade still gives me the shakes. I often wondered what NYY could have done with a rotation of Hunter, Guidry, Figuero, Bahnsen and a healthy Mel Stottlemyre.

  128. Mike Ashmore December 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    I would say that covering an international competition is a little different than covering a Double-A baseball team, but it’s not an unfair comparison. There are people in the press box, particularly employees of the respective teams you cover, that are incredibly biased…and even though they’re paid by the team, it’s still unprofessional.

    But even if the US were playing Canada or whatever, I don’t care who wins…I care that the game is over by 9:30. That’s really the only bias you can find in my coverage, that I hate extra innings.

  129. DaSaint007 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Dennis and GB, best to both of you. Life throws us curves every so often.

  130. Pat M. December 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Check that Rebecca, that number just moved to 76 %

  131. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    DeSaint007,

    True. It even beans us with up and in 100 mph fastballs.

  132. GreenBeret7 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    DaSaint007
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
    Dennis and GB, best to both of you. Life throws us curves every so often.

    ————————————————————

    I don’t look at it as a curve ball….just a hanging slider.

  133. DaSaint007 December 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes -

    True indeed. Very true.

  134. austinmac December 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    I have been a Yankee fan for 50 years. I’m happy when people are baseball fans. How dull it would be if we all pulled for the same team.

    Rebecca and Mike–we like having you both comment on the board and wish you well. Mike, I have enjoyed your reports on the Thunder. I don’t want you to drink the prospect tea, and report how every Yankee prosect, including those with 30+ errrors, are on the road to Cooperstown. I want your best judgment.

  135. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    It’s interesting, because most sportswriters began as fans. The idea that you wear a suit, carry a laptop, and set aside the toys of childhood in order to do a professional job covering a child’s game is something of a paradox.

    The internet has made it so that there’s no privacy anymore. I happen to think it’s no one’s business whom a writer privately roots for.

    But then there are those journalists who wear their rooting on their sleeve – yes, you, Mr. Gammons – and that is just embarrassing and wrong.

  136. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus December 3rd, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Austin: While I thank you for your wishes, I’m fairly certain Mike knows how to do his job.

  137. Phil December 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    One of my best friends growing up is now a sportswriter, and he definitely was a bigger fan back in the day. We were at the Garden together on the Christmas night where Bernard dropped 60 on the Nets, and a million Yanks.

  138. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Rebecca, I do not think Austin was trying to tell Mike how to do his job. He was in essence saying that he enjoys Mike’s honesty.

    This is apparently a touchy subject – maybe it should be dropped?

  139. Josh December 4th, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Rebecca: If you don’t want people commenting about your private life, then you need to keep it as it is: private. You clearly are thrilled you are dating some independent beat writer, as you constantly are name-dropping him on your twitter and various blogs. And that is great. We all hope you are happy. But you can not take offense when people start talking about it. It is almost as if you want people to gossip in jealousy that you and Mike are dating. I can assume many people really aren’t that jealous.

  140. Buddy Biancalana December 4th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    Betsy-

    Totally agree, Austin was misinterpreted. Wasn’t being disrepsectful at all.

  141. Buddy Biancalana December 4th, 2009 at 12:04 am

    *disrespectful*

  142. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 12:07 am

    Absolutely not…and it’s true, Rebecca did bring the subject up. I don’t read her blog or anyone elses, so I had no idea..

  143. Mike Ashmore December 4th, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Something that I think everyone else needs to think about is how coverage from someone who grew up as a Yankees fan could be biased as well. If the writer is professional, it wouldn’t be…but it’s really no different than suggesting that the coverage from someone who grew up following a different team would be biased as well.

    Hopefully this is the last I have to say about this for a while. As always, anyone with any questions about players or my coverage or anything can e-mail me or send me a Tweet or whatever.

    And, uhhh…in the meantime, pick up a copy of Hunterdon Life Magazine in today’s Democrat to read my Trenton Devils piece.

  144. Giuseppe Franco December 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    All I can say about Ashmore is that he does a good job covering Trenton.

    Couldn’t care less who he is dating or what team he rooted for when he was growing up.

    He covers the Trenton team fairly and that’s all that should matter. Never understood why people on this blog make such a big deal about beatwriters’ childhood alliances.

  145. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 12:10 am

    “Rebecca: If you don’t want people commenting about your private life, then you need to keep it as it is: private. You clearly are thrilled you are dating some independent beat writer, as you constantly are name-dropping him on your twitter and various blogs.”

    If you feel Rebecca is name-dropping why don’t you ignore it? Try discussing Yankee baseball instead.

  146. dennis-Costanza December 4th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    Betsy,

    Did you go to Savannah?

    -dennis

  147. Nick in SF December 4th, 2009 at 12:11 am

    “Hopefully this is the last I have to say about this for a while.”

    That seems like a safe bet.

  148. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Austin: My apologies, I read into your post what wasn’t there. I am sorry for this. I can be quick to react sometimes and did not think myself through.

    Josh: My first post tonight was nothing more than a comment stating that I was intrigued by the comments I read from last night.

    I’ll admit that it does tick me off a little bit to read posts that suggest a writer cannot do his job because he is not a fan of the team he covers, and online it can be hard to detect sarcasm. If I’ve read into something that wasn’t there, my apologies.

    If you guys think I am hotheaded or rash, I apologize. I know I can say things without thinking them through. I try not to, but I’m still not very good at it.

    Hope you guys have a good night.

    Cheers.

  149. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Phil
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    One of my best friends growing up is now a sportswriter, and he definitely was a bigger fan back in the day. We were at the Garden together on the Christmas night where Bernard dropped 60 on the Nets, and a million Yanks.
    ============================

    I turned down a chance to cover the Yanks for the wire I worked for. It was more important to me to remain a fan in my section at games than to write down boilerplate quotes from the likes of Derek Jeter (who wasn’t even there yet, lol).

    The Yankees have always been about my father’s rooting and watching Ruth, then Gehrig, then JoeD, then Mantle play. I did not want my fandom sullied by having to get quotes from suits like Randy Levine.

  150. CR9 December 4th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Phil
    “the Garden”? Is that the Boston Garden? The TD Banknorth Garden?

    Since according to ESPN, the Garden refers to Boston’s and New York’s is only MSG. Although, the real Garden is the most famous arena.

    ___

    dennis

    Good luck to the Red Sox in the coming year. I have a joke to throw in about marrying over your head. If you did indeed marry over your head, it is because you are a Red Sox fan. Red Sox fans tend to get respected by people and admired for some reason (maybe it was the 86 years thing).

  151. Mike Ashmore December 4th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    For the record, I had no issue with what Austin said. I think fans of a team often overvalue their own prospects — pick up a BA handbook from a few years ago and tell me how many of the NYY top 30 really made an impact compared to what you thought they could be — so I liked what was said.

    And Giuseppe, I really miss your commercials. The fact that Gary Busey could be hugging other haircare professionals makes me sad.

  152. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Dennis, I did – I posted here at the time. I know you’ve had a rough go of it lately – I’m sorry about your friend and I hope you’re parents are doing better.

    I really enjoyed Savannah though we were only there for 2 days. Still, we saw a lot of cool things and ate some fabulous food. Mrs. Wilkes was everything I ever hoped it would be – I’d read about it for years and it didn’t disappoint. I had the best fried chicken in my life there – I can still taste it, lol. We went to Ft. Pulaski (very neat and I also had my first taste of a fresh pecan, direct from a tree, lol), toured some historic homes (Juliet Gordon Lowe was a fascinating lady – I loved her home as well as that of her Father-in-law, Andrew Lowe) and had a great timee.

  153. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    GreenBeret7
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    DaSaint007
    December 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
    Dennis and GB, best to both of you. Life throws us curves every so often.
    ————————————————————
    I don’t look at it as a curve ball….just a hanging slider.
    =====

    As long as it’s hanging….

  154. Nick in SF December 4th, 2009 at 12:16 am

    Meanwhile, OSU +10 :)

  155. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Lo and behold, the Jets have won two in a row…hope springs eternal.

  156. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 12:19 am

    I also walked around this gorgeous cemetary – Colonial Cemetary I think? It was just beautiful. I found the gravesites (that’s not the word, I just can’t think of it now) of some of the Bulloch family. That name seemed awfully familiar to me…….and the tombstone confirmed that this was indeed the gravesite of Theodore Roosevelt’s maternal grand-father (or great-grandfather, I forget which). I remembered that Bulloch was his mother’s maiden name – she was a real southern belle. I also found the grave of Button Gwynnet, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. He’s something of a joke between me and my coworker – we just love the name, lol

  157. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Bodhi,

    I can understand that decision. My friend, when he was working for the Post then News would overcompensate in favor of the Mets to make himself seem objective.

  158. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 12:20 am

    One more thing – SCAD is taking over the town, lol

  159. Giuseppe Franco December 4th, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Mike,

    In 2008, we were bombarded by GF commercials during every Yankee game.

    In 2009, it was Vince whats-his-name and the ShamWow commercials.

    Those of you who are superstitious should root for more ShamWow in 2010.

  160. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Phil, Champ, Five Iron, etc.

    Mark Newman Q&A up on Pinstripes re Dominican Instructs…..

  161. CR9 December 4th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    austin: Why should any Yankees fan not want a beat writer or national columnist to drink the Yankees prospect tea?

    The media is littered with faux “professionals” who do nothing but drink the Red Sox prospect tea.

    just another handle: You are a real ******. Yankees Lohud gets a few guys who have positive things to say about the Yankees, their owner, manager, and all world 3rd baseman, and you bash them.

    The only reason why this place had more edge before with Pete, was because Pete would come in the comments section insulting people for disagreeing with his views and falsely claiming to have received death threats. Then, he would go on and encourage others to throw themselves in front of traffic. Always great to have a faux “professional” like that.

  162. Giuseppe Franco December 4th, 2009 at 12:25 am

    I’ve had Pinstripes Plus for the last couple of years. Lots of good info on the young kids and well worth the price of admission for all you Yankee prospect junkies out there.

  163. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 12:26 am

    Rebecca, I always enjoy your perspectives and it’s very interesting to witness your growth….Anything beyond it’s really not any of my business….Be happy and keep typing…..As you know, everyone gets ripped here at one time or another…..Always consider the source, journalism 101

  164. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Phil
    December 4th, 2009 at 12:20 am
    Bodhi,
    I can understand that decision. My friend, when he was working for the Post then News would overcompensate in favor of the Mets to make himself seem objective.
    ====

    Haha. I know all about that over-compensation thing, too. I give him credit, though. Many writers are content to live in someone’s back pocket.

    A good friend of mine at the Times was considered anathema by a certain league’s commissioner.

    A GM once called my editor (they played golf together) and tried to muscle him to get me off the beat I was on. Oh, the drama…

    Glad that part of my life is over.

  165. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes December 4th, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Giuseppe Franco
    December 4th, 2009 at 12:25 am
    I’ve had Pinstripes Plus for the last couple of years. Lots of good info on the young kids and well worth the price of admission for all you Yankee prospect junkies out there.
    ======

    It’s particularly useful if you follow up and see these kids live. You can balance what you see with the rhetoric. Glad you’re feeling better, GF.

  166. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 12:34 am

    They’re very happy right now with what they have down at the bottom of the organization. They have a ton of talent down there.

  167. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Nick in SF….Profitable night …OSU, Jets, & of course we had the 0-18 Ntes …..I friend of mine who is a diehard Ntes fan from their days on The Island…..He sits about 4 rows behind the Nets bench and was asked to either leave the building or put away the negative sign he was holding up about the ownership…….I never thought anything could stick more than the meadowlands marsh, until the 2009-2010 Brookyln to be Nets…….

  168. Nick in SF December 4th, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Pat M, glad you had a good night. I am going to celebrate the +10 and the over and the middles with a quesadilla in San Francisco’s fabled Mission District.

    Nets: ouch.

  169. dennis-Costanza December 4th, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Nick..

    Not a burrito at the place that owes you a soda?

    All, have a good night.

    -dennis

  170. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 12:53 am

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you don’t like this blog go somewhere else.
    Say what you will about Pete but he deserves credit for starting this blog.

  171. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Lohud started the blogs.

  172. MJR (Steve Phillips groped me) December 4th, 2009 at 1:01 am

    what would it take to get Baby Jesus?

    And what kind of fits would Jorge throw being a permanent backup?

    Seriously, someone who can play defense and hit…..has to catch CC, AJ, & (insert marquis free agent name) for the next 5 years.

  173. CR9 December 4th, 2009 at 1:02 am

    Re: Scutaro

    Is anyone else happy the Red Sox signed an aging SS coming off a career year? And have to give up their 1st round pick, whether to the Jays or another team.

    Joba: I do like the blog. Much more now than before. And you are entitled to your opinion, but IMO, he deserves little credit, if any at all. He used Lohud to boost his career, and then bashed Lohud upon his departure.

  174. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:05 am

    I’ve been more or less thrilled with everything they’ve done at short since they dumped Nomar.

  175. Rich in NJ December 4th, 2009 at 1:06 am

    The blog was good when it first started. It went downhill pretty fast. Now, it’s good again. Next topic?

  176. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    CR9

    The remark I made about going somewhere else if you don’t like this blog was directed at just another handle.

  177. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 1:17 am

    By the way, exactly who or was Just another handle ??? I really don’t remember him / her that well…..Wonder when Cashman leaves for Indy ?? He’ll have his marching orders well in hand by then…..In all starts in earnest in a few days……

  178. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 1:18 am

    “Next topic?”

    Trade Igawa for Doc. Then trade Cervelli and Pena for Pujols.

  179. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:22 am

    Pat,

    It could start tomorrow.

  180. Rich in NJ December 4th, 2009 at 1:26 am

    I see you want to be taken seriously.

  181. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 1:28 am

    Phil, who do the Yanks have as their 8th & 7th inning setups if Hughes & Chamberlain are either moved into the rotation or moved this offseason…Do the Yanks take a close look at Soriano ???

  182. Rich in NJ December 4th, 2009 at 1:30 am

    DRob can handle the 8th.

  183. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 1:31 am

    Rich in NJ

    That was for the people who wanted to trade for Doc and were willing to give up nothing of value for an ace.

  184. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:33 am

    Marte, DRob, Melancon…

  185. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:34 am

    And Pat,

    I think they’d be nuts to spend any money on bullpen with what they already have.

  186. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 1:41 am

    Melancon for the 7th or 8th? He hasn’t shown he can handle anything yet. No control.
    I’ll take Robertson in the 8th. Very good stuff and he doesn’t get rattled coming in with runners on.

  187. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:43 am

    The only time he hasn’t had very good control was during his irregular use by Girardi this year. Try to know what you’re talking about.

  188. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 1:51 am

    Just thinking out loud about the bullpen if both Phil & Joba move away from the pen….Filling the role and domination that was Phil Hughes in 2009 setting up Mariano will be big shoes to fill…..Candidates are, Robertson, Marte, Bruney & Coke…Melancon should be ready if he gets P.T. during Spring Training…..

  189. damon enjoy 27...think 28 December 4th, 2009 at 1:58 am

    Breaking:

    Nesn is reports Bosox has signed Scutaro,this is their 5th SS in 7 seasons.They replaced a 26 yr old with a 34 yr old for the SS position

  190. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 1:59 am

    And Nova could come up and help and maybe some other guys.

  191. bru December 4th, 2009 at 1:59 am

    boston lloses one of their 2 first round picks not their only one

    they get a first round pick & they got a 2nd one for losing wagner

    now they lost 1 of 2 for signing scoot

    they still have a 1st round pick

  192. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:05 am

    melancon is not going to be given anything

    he will have to earn it over time

    he will be used very little & if he looks good he might get more chances but they will not throw him into any role until he earns it

    same with joba & hughes

    if they got rocked they will get yanked very quickly

    we are not the pirates

    look how good d-rob looked & he might not be given anything & he blew melancon away

  193. Joba in the pen December 4th, 2009 at 2:05 am

    Girardi wasn’t using Melancon and Robertson regularly but when Robertson was used he was effective. Melancon was not. 16 innings, 10 walks. Not a big sample size but enough where Girardi didn’t trust him.

  194. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 2:07 am

    You remember, I would hope, that Robertson had his own problems when he came up in 2008. These guys improve once they get used to the bigs. Melancon has been great in the minors and has earned his shot.

  195. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 2:09 am

    bru, I don’t think The BoSox are finished shopping….They have a need for either a 1st or 3rd baseman, resolve the leftfield situation, and they need at least 3 bullpen arms…..When it’s said and done they’ll be a spectator in the 1st & 2nd rounds next June…..

  196. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:13 am

    the problem with melancon is he will have to step it up

    with a team like the yankees a bad impression is like a good one

    it can last a while & someone will step in to take the spot
    also if hughes & or joba struggle in the rotation one or both go to the pen further limiting melancons chances

    short version

    melancon will have to pitch well soon

    he is getting up in age

  197. Phil December 4th, 2009 at 2:15 am

    bru,

    don’t be ridiculous. The Yanks know about sample size and Torre’s not the manager anymore. He’ll get his shot if he doesn’t get traded.

  198. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:18 am

    Pat M.

    i dont agree

    they are not going to lose a 1st round pick for a pen arm & they prob sign bay

    if it makes sense they might but i dont see it

    2 pen arms,lf & maybe 1 pitcher is what i read they need

    the only issue is if they sign lackey & they are not interested from what i hear

    i dont see them losing their 1st rnd pick

  199. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 2:26 am

    They lost 2 relievers in 2 days, plus Masterson back in July…They also still need either a 1st or a 3rd baseman…I think they’ll resign Bay he makes the most sense as he’s been there for a season and a half…..I do see your point about the questions in the rotation when you factor in Wakefield and Dice-K…..I think the Dice Man comes back, but his shine has lost some luster as that arm is getting tired…..

  200. damon enjoy 27...think 28 December 4th, 2009 at 2:26 am

    Breaking:

    Cardinal president Bill Dewitt,speaks about their limitations on keeping Pujols beyond his current deal.ARE THEY CRAZY?
    http://www.stltoday.com/sports

    If Pujols his FA it’s OVAH!!

  201. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:28 am

    Phil
    December 4th, 2009 at 2:15 am
    bru,

    don’t be ridiculous. The Yanks know about sample size and Torre’s not the manager anymore. He’ll get his shot if he doesn’t get traded.

    ———————–

    do you know how to comprehend?

    i stated the obvious

    if he does not pitch well he will have less & less chances to prove himself

    he will not be given any defined role right now until he proves himself

    long relief,5th,6th,7th,8th or 9th innings

    will he get his shot yes but here & there until girrardi can trust him more

    dont forget i am a yankee fan & wan’t to see him do well

  202. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:35 am

    Pat M.

    they technically dont need a 3rd/1st baseman but i get yer point

    they are stuck with lowell because i dont see them eating salary

    no doubt they are in a tight spot

    their opening payroll is 124 million & i don’t think they wan’t to spend a lot

    bay alone takes them to 140 million plus scoot

    not much left for them to spend

    if they got doc they are around 161 million or so

    don’t see that

  203. damon enjoy 27...think 28 December 4th, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Edit his=hits

    St Louis is cheap cheap.If they let him go that’s it for their ownership of the NL Central.

  204. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 2:41 am

    There times last season when certain guys just sat for a week before Giradi called their number…Robertson was one when he first came up….In defense of Mark Melancon, Giradi called him in with the bases juiced in Fenway, and several other times he was summoned in some very unfavorable spots for a rookie reliever….Certinaly weren’t confidence building situations……He has the tools to be a very good reliever…But I do think this could be his last chance in testing Cashman’s patience….I do expect for him to make an impression ( good ) come March…

  205. bru December 4th, 2009 at 2:42 am

    pujols will get 30 million a year

    i cant see them tying a huge percentage of their payroll up with 2 or 3 players

  206. Rich in NJ December 4th, 2009 at 2:44 am

    I think Girardi’s patience with Aceves and Coke showed that if you pitch well early, he’ll stick with you no matter how much you struggle.

  207. Pat M. December 4th, 2009 at 2:47 am

    bru, When you post the BoSox team salary’s it just amazes me thatthey got such a sweetheart deal with Youk…..That’s about to change next season with Beckett, Paplebon ( if he’s still around )….When is Drew’s contract up, 2011 ???

  208. haiku-man December 4th, 2009 at 2:47 am

    Damon
    agreed if Pujols sees FA he’s gone.St Louis is stupid if they let him walk.Can you imagine the bidding war?

  209. vey December 4th, 2009 at 2:58 am

    Rich in NJ

    How does that reasoning work with Mitre,he stunk and Joe stuck with him.Finally Joe came to his senses in the postseason roster.

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  213. Iconoclast December 4th, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Giuseppe Franco,

    “Thank you very much for the kind words. They are appreciated.

    What was your moniker on the Newsday blog? I see Chip hasn’t changed.

    It’s a shame Newsday killed that place. You could actually carry on a discussion during the regular season.

    Sometimes, this place has too many people going back and forth during the summer months and the author(s) create new threads rather quickly.”

    Giuseppe, sorry to be getting back to you the following day. We’re six hours ahead of you here in France and I had signed off shortly after posting last might.

    I rarely posted on Newsweek (as is the case here) but I read the blog virtually everday. I can’t even be sure of my handle back then. I think it was “ingognito” (which was kind of appropriate.)

    You’re absolutely right about what a great place Newsweek was back then. There was a nice group of people including Jim A (who I think has found a home on the Daily News blog, along with Rick), yourself, Chip and a number of others. You always came up with the best arguments, Giuseppe! But I did love the fights between you and a few of the nitwits on that blog, not to mention between Chip and Rick – the latter who always said the Yanks would never win with ARod. Wonder what he’s spouting now! I also wonder what Chip’s feeling is now about Pettitte! Chip was adamantly against signing him while you were all for it. I must confess that I had my doubts, but you were right once again (happily the Yanks felt the same way you did.)

    Once again, I wish you a quick recovery. I always enjoy reading your comments.

  214. Betsy - high on pie December 4th, 2009 at 8:14 am

    It’s obviously fine to give Melancon another chance, but no way are the Yankees giving him the 7th/8th inning roles (first let him make the team)………He’ll start out in garbage time or other low-leverage situations and if he can handle those chances, he will be given the opportunity to prove himself in bigger spots. Melancon is not someone you can count on ………..yet. He may develop into that kind of pitcher and I hope he does.

  215. Boogie Down- Hot Stove December 4th, 2009 at 8:17 am

    I’m just looking forward to the surprises Santa Cash puts under the Tree this year. You just never know…

  216. Mark in Tampa December 4th, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Scutaro signed with Boston, so I guess Pedroia stays at second. This is a good signing for Boston, best SS available right now. My guess is that the Marlins GM couldn’t hang up fast enough if Theo called about Hanley.

    The scenario now-does Boston keep Bay to keep from giving up another draft pick, which they would if they sign Holliday? Or are they more likely to let Bay go elsewhere to recoup those picks? Maybe they let Bay go, don’t pursue Holliday, and go another route for LF. With the way they seem to be so in love with draft picks these days, they may not be making the best decisions for the upcoming season.

  217. Erin December 4th, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Mark in Tampa
    December 4th, 2009 at 8:50 am
    Scutaro signed with Boston, so I guess Pedroia stays at second. This is a good signing for Boston, best SS available right now.

    **********************
    Poor Midget. I think he was looking forward to playing SS so he could be more like his buddy Jeter. ;)

  218. NYYanksFan December 4th, 2009 at 9:02 am

    “But before her on-the-record denials, Uchitel had claimed to have met Woods during a party at Jeter’s Trump World Plaza apartment, a source said.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/n.....z0YjDsyQOt

  219. Joe Vogel December 4th, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    I’m wondering if/when the Steinbrenner family is going to acknowledge that George Steinbrenner likely has senile dementia or Alzheimer’s Disease instead of putting forth the charade that he is still in control of the team.

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