A check-up on A-Rod’s hip (and heart?)
Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Dec 14, 2009 
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While the hot stove continues to churn and the Yankees – like all teams – work on adding players from outside their organization, they are also keeping tabs on players already on the roster to be sure that everyone is getting (and staying) healthy.
Along those lines, Alex Rordriguez has returned to Vail, Colo., where his surgically-repaired right hip was examined, according to sources. The sources said the examination was “routine” and that Rodriguez is fine – he recently was at David Ortiz’s charity golf tournament in the Dominican Republic. That said, it’s worth knowing that Rodriguez will have to continue to monitor the hip as his career continues.
Remember, it was originally believed that Rodriguez would need two surgeries to correct the problem in his hip but a few months ago his doctor, Marc Philippon, revealed that A-Rod had recovered so well that the second procedure likely wouldn’t be needed.
Now, as for Rodriguez’s heart? We’re not much for the gossip pages here at the LoHud Yankees Blog, but I was tipped off to this story and thought it was worth posting, if only because we all know how important Kate was to A-Rod being “in a good place” during his amazing October.
I know, I know – I thought they’d be together forever, too.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ARod will be fine.
That’s bad. Lets hope he finds someone by April.
Alex and Kate split up?? Too bad
As if this day couldn’t get any worse
The Yankees have ignored Matsui/Cameron/Damon for a reason. It’s not tough to figure out.
Don’t care – it’s Alex’s personal life, not my business. I’m sure he’ll be fine in 2010
You know, there are not a lot of good non-FA LF’s out there:
The ones I like:
1. Ryan Braun – Brewers
2. Carl Crawford – Rays
3. David DeJesus – KC
4. Carlos Gonzalez – Rockies
1. Not happening. Young and cheap.
2. Extension for big bucks this year, or FA next year.
3. Ask Chip.
4. Young and productive. Promising.
Then there’s Holliday and Bay. Followed by Cameron.
That’s all folks.
Carig is hearing that Matsui to the Angels is a done deal.
Ok, Delmon Young – Twins.
Other than that? Any ideas?
Soyanara Matsui. Wish you all the best, except when you face the Yankees.
Cold shoulder to Matsui. Not without a plan.
Phil
December 14th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Carig is hearing that Matsui to the Angels is a done deal.
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Very sad day. I hate to see Matsui go.
ESPN’s Jayson Stark heard this deal is close but not done. He says Halladay’s extension would be just three years and $60MM (starting in 2011), with possible vesting options for another year or two.
Well, Matsui wanted to play LF – what can you do?
I’m glad Matsui was able to get a ring with the Yanks. Moose and Giamgi weren’t as fortunate.
Halladay’s payday is right up there with CC’s in terms of annual dollars spent.
But we been there done that.
Corey,
“How? People complained about this teams RISP numbers in 2009. You want Granderson, Cano, Swisher, Cameron in the same lineup with clunky Matsui, Posada & Teixeira on the base paths? Yeah…no.”
Did you just complain about a possible lineup with Granderson, Cano, Swisher, Cameron, Matsui, Posada, and Teixeira? Do you watch baseball? Everyone on that lineup would have an OPS over .800. It would be the best offense in baseball BY FAR. The starting lineup with hit 240 home runs without trying.
And, in 2009, the Yankees were 3rd in the league in OPS w/ RISP.
Phil, me too. That was a nice way to cap off his Yankee career. Matsui has always been one of my favorites. I wish him luck as an Angel (except when they’re playing the Yankees)
I think if every thread today turns into a panic room – we should at least be able to stare at a picture of Jodie Foster. Cmon Sam, make it happen.
I have been reading that the Chi Sox are looking for a leadoff guy that can improve their outfield defense, a lefty power bat, and pen help. How about a trade involving Brett Gardner and Juan Miranda for Carlos Quentin. Quentin, Granderson, Swisher with Melky and possibly Hoffman coming off the bench. Quentin is still young 28 in august, above average d, potential all star and under team control but going to want a pay raise. Sign Matsui 1year 5 million to DH (hopefully Matsui to the Angels is not a done deal).If Grandersons woes continue against lefties slide Cabrera into center. Yanks keep all of their pitching prospects for a deal if they feel they need another starter.
Jeter
Cano/Granderson
Tex
Arod
Matsui
Quentin
Posada
Swisher
Granderson/Cano
Um, Mr. October,
Matsui signed with the Angels.
Granderson is not going to be platooned in CF.
Brett Gardner hasn’t proven he can get on base enough to be a leadoff hitter.
Juan Miranda hasn’t proven as yet that he can consistently hit ML pitching, though he is promising.
CWS will not therefore trade Quentin for that package. Kenny Williams is one of the brightest GMs in the game.
At least Matsui will be there when the Yanks get their rings…..The Yanks home opener is against the Angels.
I just don’t understand what you people expected.
Did you expect the Yankees to sign Lackey or are you just upset the Sox got him?
Did you expect a Halladay trade? I sure didn’t.
In that same respect, how many of you really think they’re going to sign Holliday? I don’t.
And guess what?
They’ll still be a great team.
Have some faith.
Except for Betsy. There is really truly no hope for her.
Phil, I’m curious, other than Damon and Holliday, who would you want for LF and why?
The move that hurts is Matsui.
Why not offer him 8 million and have his bat in the middle of that lineup for one more year? That move baffles me. Why let him go for so cheap?
miggs: you make very good sense
Everyone will be reminded that the FO knows what it’s doing come the home opener when the Yankees get their rings. Have faith, the offseason is long and Cashman isn’t done.
Get me Barry Bonds!
Don’t laugh. Think about it.
Then laugh.
DaSaint,
Holliday. He’s better.
miggs -GTLU Reigning Champion December 14th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
The move that hurts is Matsui.
Why not offer him 8 million and have his bat in the middle of that lineup for one more year? That move baffles me. Why let him go for so cheap?
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Because the FO does not want to let Matsui play the field, and the Angels apparently made a commitment to let him do so.
Lastly, if there is a market that is a buyer’s market, it’s for DH.
Miggs,
I agree with everything you said except for the sign Holliday part.
I do think that Cashman has been eying Holliday and he’d be a perfect fit in the lineup.
It also accomplishes the goal of the team getting younger and more athletic (cost not withstanding).
At this point the Yankees still have money to spend and not many good options to spend it on. I could definitely see them signing Holliday, and (hopefully) bringing back Wang or one of the other injured pitchers and taking it from there.
100 pitches of fun…
December 14th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
At least Matsui will be there when the Yanks get their rings…..The Yanks home opener is against the Angels.
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That’s a little comforting. But I still wish he’d be playing for the Yankees when he gets his ring.
Let’s hope Kate wasnt seeing Tiger on the sly after having met Tiger at a party at Derek Jeter’s pad.LOL I shuddered when I read that Tiger met one on his conquests at a party at DJ’s Trump Tower apartment. I prayed that Derek stays out of the muck.
Seriously though, with someone as sensitive as A Rod is, who knows how a breakup with his sweety just before Christmas will impact his psyche.
“The move that hurts is Matsui.
Why not offer him 8 million and have his bat in the middle of that lineup for one more year? That move baffles me. Why let him go for so cheap?”
I completely agree. Everyone should be happy Halladay is out of the AL East. Lackey will be an upgrade for the Sox, but not enough to put them past the Yankees.
Seeing Matsui leave for such a small amount seems like a mistake though. Cashman is too hung up on the idea of a rotating DH to adjust to the market. Maybe he swoops in last minute, because I’m sure Matsui would come here if the money is the same.
Rosenthal tweets that Cameron and the Red Sox are in serious talks right now on a two year deal.
In a few years, if not sooner, the Jays will be very good as they apparently got quite a haul. Good job by AA……
Oy vey..there’s another option off the table.
Phil
December 14th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Rosenthal tweets that Cameron and the Red Sox are in serious talks right now on a two year deal.
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Thank God.
Something tells me that Matsui wants to play the field, and the Yankees will not commit to that and hurt his defense, and that is more of a reason why he’s leaving. The money is something the Yankees can match if they wanted to, and easily. So there must be something more than that.
Who didn’t expect this split-up since the day of the parade, when Kate was conspicuously not on A-Rod’s float while Minka basked among Jeter’s family on his?
THIS IS TERRIBLE!
Kate’s dating…. gasp! John Lackey!
Losing Matsui and the vacancy that he leaves relly is a big hole right now…..And Jorge Posada is not the answer….So now there’s a glaring hole in the outfield & the DH and the oh so important 5 spot covering Alex……Actually ( as been stated often here ) Matt Holliday fills both holes at less money than Damon & Matsui…In fact it’s a push when you factor in Curtis
Phil
December 14th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
DaSaint,
Holliday. He’s better.
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That having been said, don’t you think that he’s still in control of the market?
It’s interesting that most of us thought that the Yankees drove the market this offseason, and only when the Ynkees made a move would the market be defined. What’s happening is the opposite. The Yankees have not made the move, and moves are being made around them, but the resulting ‘leftovers’ – Bay and Holliday, and to a lesser extent Damon, are going to be able to drive the market still as there are fewer options available and the same need in LF.
There are 4 teams that need LF help: Angels, Seattle, boston, and Yankees.
There are 3 premier names out there: Holliday, Bay, and Damon.
Someone could be left standing when the music stops.
Phil,
Man, you are ALL over that Tweeter thing
Thank you
Oh, I’m soooooooooo upset that Miggs is trashing me again. Boo hoo……There’s no hope for ME? You’re pretty much sub-human……there’s NO hope for you.
I think Cashman will swoop in to get Holliday at a reasonable price once the dust settles and the big spenders have already finished off their cash supply.
I am really surprised that Matsui is going to another team and only getting $6m. I could see if some stupid team offered him like 2-3 years for crazy money. But it just seems odd that Cash would let him go for nothing really.
backpage
December 14th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Who didn’t expect this split-up since the day of the parade, when Kate was conspicuously not on A-Rod’s float while Minka basked among Jeter’s family on his?
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That was a little strange. But they were seen together since then-I read that he went to London with her while she was over there promoting “Nine”. It’s too bad-they seemed like a really cute couple.
Raymagnetic I don’t think they want another huge contract on the books. I really don’t.
That’s why its so baffling to see them let Matsui go. Ok he wants to play the field. Big deal. He also really loves NY and I thought he wanted to stay here. Offer him 8 million and tell him he’s going to DH.
If they resigned Matsui and with the Granderson trade that eliminates the need for Damon, who will cost more than Matsui. They could have gotten by with Melky in LF if they had Matsui and Granderson in the lineup. Now if Damon doesn’t resign then maybe they have to consider Holliday, a more expensive, longer term contract with IMO more risk.
Holliday scares me. Bad stats in the AL last year, never played in a pressure cooker, he just seems like he’s going to be a disaster if they sign him.
I’d almost rather have Dye for a year. Or Cameron.
Holliday’s market is shrinking. And the Yanks’ pool of Championship level targets is shrinking.
Seems like the Sox are going with pitching and defense. If that is the plan signing Cameron is a real good move by them. They can shift Ellsbury over to LF where he is much better.
LF: Ells CF: Cameron RF: Drew
That is a sick defensive outfield
DT – OPPC member December 14th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I think if every thread today turns into a panic room – we should at least be able to stare at a picture of Jodie Foster.
Mmmmmmmmmh. Jodie Foster.
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/im.....ster13.jpg
Phil
December 14th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Holliday’s market is shrinking. And the Yanks’ pool of Championship level targets is shrinking
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Convergence
if we put Dye in left, balls would never stop dropping out there and we would never get up!
I just don’t see cashman letting matsui go for 6.5 M unless he has a plan. They aren’t close with Damon in negociations and still have several needs to fill. Either cashman fell asleep at the wheel or he had other plans in mind. I prefer to believe the latter.
Correct Blake. You don’t ignore Hideki Matsui without an eye towards bigger and better options. Looks like our initial instincts served us well.
Sounds like the Sox might sign Mike Cameron
First Matsui now Cameron? Going to my two least favorite teams… sigh what a day
“There are 4 teams that need LF help: Angels, Seattle, boston, and Yankees.”
You forgot the team that needs LF help the most: the Mets!
“Seems like the Sox are going with pitching and defense. If that is the plan signing Cameron is a real good move by them. They can shift Ellsbury over to LF where he is much better.
LF: Ells CF: Cameron RF: Drew
That is a sick defensive outfield”
And a terribly below average offensive OF. Let them give Cameron 2 years. How old is he? 38?
someone give me a link to matsui signing?
The Matt Holliday market seems to be shrinkingby the hour. I mean who has the money to offer him what he is looking for? If the Sox sign Cameron you would think Bay goes to the Mets so I could see the Yanks getting in on Matt.
OHHH I’M SSSOOO DEPRESSED
All I know is that there is no way the M’s will have the money to resign Lee, unless the Chinese gov’t. buys them. That means we can reunite CC and Lee in ’11. That makes me a happy camper!
blake
December 14th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I just don’t see cashman letting matsui go for 6.5 M unless he has a plan. They aren’t close with Damon in negociations and still have several needs to fill. Either cashman fell asleep at the wheel or he had other plans in mind. I prefer to believe the latter.
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I think you’re right. I’m slowly coming to realize that I don’t think Matsui was ever really a major part of their plans for 2010.
Why is 36 year old Cameron getting a 2 year deal? Sox are obviously not bringing back Bay now that they signed Lackey. So they are going with the cheap option in the outfield. Their team, especially the offense is a mess.
I mentioned the other night that 7 million would secure Matsui… I was wrong
Brett, I hope you’re right
http://twitter.com/TylerKepner/status/6677353527
And a terribly below average offensive OF. Let them give Cameron 2 years. How old is he? 38?
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In what universe is that a below average offensive OF?
I’m with those who are perplexed at this Matsui deal. Unless he’s just blinded by pride or saving face about playing the field, I think he would stay with the Yanks as a DH if they matched or slightly exceeded the Angels’ offer. I also agree that Cashman’s idea of rotating players through the DH spot is not a good plan. When A-Rod and his hip need a day off, that means a day off – not hitting four times a game, running the bases, sliding, etc. He’s more liable to re-injure his hip on the basepaths then in the field.
I think you’re right. I’m slowly coming to realize that I don’t think Matsui was ever really a major part of their plans for 2010.
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Yahtzee
For the people that think Holliday is a real option. Do you really think Cashman is OK with going into the over $197M committed to 12 players? Or over $180M committed to 10 players in 2012?
if we put Dye in left, balls would never stop dropping out there and we would never get up!
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Same could be said about Matsui. He wanted to play left field and we already went through a year of adventures out there. No thanks.
Pat M.
December 14th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I mentioned the other night that 7 million would secure Matsui… I was wrong
Hang in there Pat
There is a rumor going around that once the Lackey deal is done the Sox are going to try and send Clay Laptop & whoever else to SD for AG.
Despite how good Lackey is, all these Boston moves just make me say “eh”.
I just get the feeling that Cash is sitting back with a full house while everyone else thinks he has folded. I could be wrong but its strange on a day where so much action has happened that Cashman is silent. If the Yankees sign Holliday and a guy like Sheets then they are the best team in baseball and its really not close IMO.
Da Saint-
Kenny Williams is the same GM that trahis blog ded Swisher and Texiera for Marquez Nunez and Betimet. The Chisox have been looking toward Podesnik or Coco Crisp to man cf. Gardner has a lot more upside than both those guys and a lot of people see Miranda playing everyday for the Yanks.
P.S.: Please, Cash, ANYONE BUT HOLLIDAY. He sucked in the AL – and that was in the AL West! he’s a NL guy, all the way.
Thansk RS.
Remaining LF’ers: Holliday, Bay, and Damon
LF needs: Mets, Yankees, Angels, Mariners. Boston appears to be gone if they sign Cameron.
Seattle and Mets have HUGE LFs. Bay would get lost. Holliday is a better candidate.
Angels and Yankees have more manageable LFs.
I do not want to be left with Bay as my option.
I don’t
There is absolutely no reason for San Diego to trade Adrian Gonzalez. He’s a San Diego native,the face of the franchise and has a reasonable contract. Plus, the last thing Jed Hoyer wants to do is look like he got fleeced in his first major move.
are you sure you’re not that Kevin Brown?
blake
December 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I just get the feeling that Cash is sitting back with a full house while everyone else thinks he has folded. I could be wrong but its strange on a day where so much action has happened that Cashman is silent. If the Yankees sign Holliday and a guy like Sheets then they are the best team in baseball and its really not close IMO.
I agree. But I’m still hoping Cash adds one arm to the bullpen by trading Gardner. It’s nice to have 3 CF’s but we really only need 2.
The Plan Cash has is simple he’s not spending 6-8mil on a DH rather he will reallocate those funds to a real area of need…
I get the feeling that the Cameron signing makes Ellsbury expendable…I’m seeing a Bucholtz,Ellsbury,Bard,Lars Anderson package for Gonzo with Ryan Kalish replacing Ellsbury when Cameron ages past his due date….hmmmm!
I posted something similar to this in the last thread but it bears repeating.
For all those that consider the Sox such a model organization chew on this for a second. Have you ever heard of a team eating so much salary in such a short period of time?
In the last 12 months they have traded Lugo (eating about 9 million in salary), released Penny (eating about 2-3 million) released Smoltz (eating 2-3 million) and now they are trying to trade Lowell (and eat another 9 million).
Imagine if the Yankees did that? You people would be howling for Cashman’s head.
Penny and Smoltz were supposed to be “low risk” moves. They both got shelled and released mid-season with a combined 5 miilion left on their contracts. They gave Lowell too long of a contract and now will have to eat that. They ate Lugo’s last year.
They also have Drew (bad contract) and Papi (enough said) that they can’t get rid of. They cleaned out their system for Victor Martinez. They got swept in the 1st round of the playoffs.
They still don’t have a good defensive catcher. Their minor league system is depleted. Hardly a model franchise if you ask me.
What a day ! And just think there is more of it come in the days ahead.
I might get flamed for saying this but the Sox improved themselves today.Maybe not offensively but defensively thru a deeper starting rotation.They still have issues but may not be done adding to their team. And their offense isn’t exactly terrible as it stands. They score lot’s of runs. We might score more but they are not that much weaker in this area than we are. Let’s not all be Homers here and just give them Their due. I wouldn’t take them too lightly or underestimate them. Same with the Rays.
We have lost a couple of big bats this off season(so far), and have added a great new center fielder who makes up some of the missing production. If we wish to attain the production we had last year then a significant piece or two is still missing and waiting to be filled. If not, then we must find another way to success. Perhaps, thru improved defense which is of course the sum of our Pitching efficiency and our player’s defensive skills. Speed might add runs as well and we may dain an advantage there.
We need to employ one or both of those strategies IMO. I hope Cash uses both. If we Added Holliday/Sheets
for example the budget is going to have to top 200Mil. Figuring roughly 10Mill for Sheets, and approx. 20 Mill for Holliday. I wonder if cashman can go there ?
One thing I feel certain of is that we NEED another quality starter for depth. It can be Sheets, Duke, or somebody else but there is considerable risk in standing pat on this front.
I apologize for the length of this post but a ton has happened today. all of it interesting. All of it challenging.
“LF: Ells CF: Cameron RF: Drew
That is a sick defensive outfield”
Yep…Personally, the rumored signings of Matsui/Cameron bother me more than the acquisitions of Lackey/Halladay. It seems completely illogical to watch some of the most appealing offensive options go off the market while waiting on Damon and his absurd demands. As such, my hope is that Cashman senses the possibility of signing Matt Holliday at a reasonable rate, and is actually saving his remaining funds for that upgrade.
Haha Patrick the Geriatric Stalker? Ok then..
Remember at the Winter Meetings Cash said if the pitching prices didn’t come down he’s start looking elsewhere. Well, seems like it’s time to look elsewhere.
Bret, if they sign another starter then Hughes or Joba (probably Joba) will go to the pen and that should help.
The Yankees have been linked to Cameron for years now. It seems as if for the past seven years or so Cameron to the Yanks always comes up. If it hasnt happened already its not going to happen now! They didnt bite on him then and they surely wont bite on an older version now.
Mike Cameron turns 37 on January 8. The Red $ox will have bought themselves 3 players so far this offseason. The average age is 34 years old. I love it!!
I still want the Yankees to sign Cameron and Johnson =/
Boston has been wetting their underoos for a long time over Gonzalez though. They need a reliable big stick in the middle of that lineup, and with only 2 years left on his deal and a big extension looming, they may decide the prospects are better than expanding their payroll.
Of course, this also reinforces Boston’s delusion that V-Mart is an everyday catcher.
There will be some words exchanged when Francona comes out of the dugout to hook Lackey.
Don’t expect to hear Happy Birthday or Merry Christmas.
#*%~><&^+@* !!!!
Mr. October,
Kenny Williams is also the same guy that got Jake Peavy from San Diego. Sometimes you have to free up cash to make a future transaction.
Just ask Cashman.
JD Drew just turned 34 too. The problem is, he has the body of a 40 year old. The last time we saw 43 year old Tim Wakefield, he couldnt walk without assistance. Mike Lowell is a physical wreck. Theres some age issues in Beantown
Relax and chill out. The Angels clearly are in a bad place right now. That is good.
Sure, the Sox improved, but there was no way the Yankees were signing Lackey to 5 x 17.5, and he hates the Yankees anyway. Let the Sox go after Adrian Gonzalez, and have nothing left in the farm, since Hoyer knows who’s who and won’t accept nothing but total farm annihilation.
Roy Halliday would have been a good fit, but he preferred the Phils from day 1, it appears. Didn’t want the “pressure of NY.” Thank our lucky stars he realized this now, and not after Yankees traded Joba and Montero.
Matsui? In the warm weather his knees will feel better. Good for him. The RF porch is a lot longer in the big A than in YS–expect a fewer HR. Sayonara, and Domo arigato.
I’m surprised the Yankees didn’t make a stronger play for Lee, given what the apparent return is. Maybe that was the undisclosed part of the deal between the Jays and Phils, that Lee couldn’t go to the AL East.
Yankees will still field a 95-100 win team without making another move. It’s good to have some competition in Boston.
Now the ONE thing I can’t stomach, however, is how Cash let Kate Hudson go! Cash, you should have offered her more years! Oh well…
I think Big Stein has taken over in Boston…
When Matsui finds out about the exorbitant prices for original origami in California he’s going to stick his wife in a safe deposit box.
Hmm… Halladay in Philly. But they don’t have Lee anymore… What’s the point?
Let’s also not forget KW “freed up cash” by taking Alex Rios’ albatross of a contract from Toronto.
Cashman had a plan to get younger. I really doubt that Matsui was in that plan or that Damon is. Perhaps the leak about the budget cut was true and this is the team we go with next year year.
I don’t understand letting Wang go, Matsui go and doing nothing. I do think that FA market that was somewhat moribund last year, has lots of life this year.
If we sign Sheets and Holliday it will again cost big dollars and we’ll still not have a DH. You can’t rotate the line up through the spot because that means always playing with someone who isn’t good enough to play every day. Any ideas on the plan. I don’t see it myself.
C
Its been a tough couple of days for Yankee fans. While the players leaving might not be ideal, I’ve enjoyed watching them for these years.
Wang, Matsui, possibly Damon, three very solid contributors to the Yankees through the seasons. When Wang was pitching well you had a lot of confidence that the game could be won. Godzilla could mash the ball. Damon could be a demon with the battling he did at the plate.
I think the rotating DH is about the poorest thought out idea that has been floated by Cashman. He has gotten the team younger in general. The older guys will need some time off, but not 25 or more games as DH. Its ill conceived and will be a weakness in the way the lineup is put together if he goes through with it.
The Phillies really puzzle me. If they were so hot to get Halladay, why wouldn’t they have done it last season and gotten two years of time out him for the players given up? I think this comes back to be a problem for them, they didn’t make a major gain with this move.
Lackey – eh. Despite the slurp fest from ESPN this isn’t a major plus for the RS. Other than it hurting the Angels as that team has been hit really hard by all this action.
Of all the things to occur today, I am most upset over Matsui. I think he is under-rated and I don’t think this is a good move for him or for the Yankees.
The Angels are already planning on the money that Matsui can bring in to the team. His contract pays for itself and then some. It would more than cover the luxury tax fee and salary if he were to be with the Yankees. So you get a great bat for a net cost of profit. Yeah, I can see why Cashman would ignore that. Brilliant.
Pitt,
Tough to lose Matsui and his spot in the lineup. Mostly though I just enjoyed having Matsui on the team- he was a real positive.
I do not believe in the roving DH and I do not have faith in Posada, Swisher or Cano taking his place as protection for Arod. Hopefully Cash has some plans that are in place that will soon be revealed.
The other moves, Lee, Halladay and Lackey, no big deal. Anyone who knew BOS situation had to figure they would make a splash or two, notice there was very little in the press about BOS interest in Lackey.
I still think BOS signs Holliday next. They need the bat.
now boston offered 15.5 to chapman. they are all over everything. we can still sit back and watch and cash will strike when he is ready.
I still think it was a bad idea to let Matsui watch those Beverly Hillbillies reruns in Japanese.
“Said California is the place you ought to be
So he loaded up the porn and moved to Beverly.”
Dear CASHMAN: Great job man, love how you really got involved and got one of Lackey and Halladay! NOT
Just because you had a good offseason last year doesn’t mean you can slack…way to go on letting two pitchers slide, and one of them going to the Sox, really nice work!
Now, it also allows the Sox to keep their prospects to trade for Adrian Gonzalez too if they want! would have been MUCH happier if you just spent the extra prospect and Got Halladay OVER Granderson
Halladay >>>> Granderson….haven’t you realized that PITCHIGN wins, not hitting?
the point is that lee didnt want to sign an extension and haladay did.
jake December 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Dear CASHMAN: Great job man, love how you really got involved and got one of Lackey and Halladay! NOT
Just because you had a good offseason last year doesn’t mean you can slack…way to go on letting two pitchers slide, and one of them going to the Sox, really nice work!
Now, it also allows the Sox to keep their prospects to trade for Adrian Gonzalez too if they want! would have been MUCH happier if you just spent the extra prospect and Got Halladay OVER Granderson
Halladay >>>> Granderson….haven’t you realized that PITCHIGN wins, not hitting?
lol
Comet, you’d fill the DH from within with Miranda to start the year and possibly montero by the end of the year. If they sign Holliday then I could DH and it wouldn’t matter (I’d be cheap)
Now’s the time to trade for Vernon Wells; no one will see it coming!
you my friend are an idiot. lackey is not worth 18 m and halladay was never coming to ny. not for what toronto was asking from us.
For all those that think the Yankees are going to sign Sheets, think again. They will not pay $11-12 million/year. Unfortunately I see the Angels signing him to make up for their loss of Lackey. Perhaps the top 1-2 punch in MLB belongs to the Mariners, with Hernandez and Lee
So Boston offered $15.5 to Chapman. If the Yankees want him, they’ll offer $16. This isn’t Japan with the bizarre closed bidding posting.
Speaking of the CWS…
Let me be Chip for a minute here.
The Chicago White Sox are probably not going to be in contention for the next couple years, I wonder if it’s possible that they trade either Jake Peavy and the $48 million coming to him between 2010-2012, or Mark Buehrle, and the $45 million he has coming to him over the same period?
Chances are no, they wouldn’t trade either to the Yankees, and the Yankees wouldn’t want the contracts, as long as Lee and Beckett and Webb in fact hit next years Free Agency.
Plus, Joba and Hughes are going to improve. Right?
Just thinking out loud.
matsui just signed with the angels. cue the bridge jumpers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo5aStQJTJQ
Must watch Matsui video. Its in Japanese but any Yankee fan will understand.
Well i guess its official Matsui and the angels have an agreement. This is the only move made today that saddens me.
yankees dont need chapman.
sad that matsui signed with anaheim.
“Now’s the time to trade for Vernon Wells; no one will see it coming!”
Doesn’t there have to be a public disclaimer with that kind of talk, or am I thinking of Orson and not Vernon Wells?
We don’t want mass fleeing and disorderly panic….
can seattle afford lee and hernandez long term?
“can seattle afford lee and hernandez long term?”
They can, the question is will they.
tex’s friend,
that was posted way up the thread.
Chapman wouldn’t be an option for at least 2010, if not well into 2011.
sox are stuck with lackey on a 5 year deal now. they never do that so they are desperate…. yankees will strike when ready. dont worry about the yankees. trust in cash.
yeah but i wanted to add my two cents since i was late.
I can’t blame Matsui, they put him on the back burner and he didn’t want to wait. 6.5 Million is a steal for him as a one year deal. Still have to think Cashman would have went higher than that if he wasn’t up to something. I could be wrong though, maybe they never were considering him
Its the end of an era
I’ll miss Hideki.
I’ll miss Damon.
I’ll miss Wang.
Shoot, I’ll even miss Molina, but am happy with Cervelli.
Won’t miss Hinske or Nady. Hardly knew ya.
Liked Hairston though. And Bruney.
Oh well. Time to move on.
Cameron hasn’t played in the AL since 2003. Perhaps he’s forgotten about all the racial slurs drunken Boston fans are known for.
DT – OPPC member
December 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I still think it was a bad idea to let Matsui watch those Beverly Hillbillies reruns in Japanese.
“Said California is the place you ought to be
So he loaded up the porn and moved to Beverly.”
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LMAO
Brian Cashman better get on the phone a negotiate a good contract with Kate Hudson to keep A Rod happy!
Fair to say that today was the Hottest day on the Stove.
OH NO! NO HALLIDAY, NO HOLLIDAY = NO HOLIDAY. IS BRIAN CASHMAN AWAKE? IS HE ON VACATION? THE YANKS MAKE ONE, WHAT I BELIEVE MINOR DEAL IN GRANDERSON, AND THE SOX GET LACKEY. THE RED SOX WILL HAVE ONE THE THE BEST 1-5 STAFFS. WE GOT 3 STARTERS, 2 OF WHICH YOU MAY GET 12-14 WINS FROM #2 & #3, THEN WHO KNOWS ABOUT #4 & #5. JOBA IS A TOTAL WASTE, DO NOT DEPEND ON HIM HELPING THIS TEAM IN 2010. HUGHES SHOWED HE CAN BE A SET-UP MAN, BUT, ONCE HE’S BACK IN THE ROTATION, CAN HE GIVE YOU A SOLID 6 OR 7 INNINGS? WE NEEDED ANOTHER FRONT LINE PITCHER. THE YANKEES ARE STRETCHING OUT ALFREDO ACEVES IN THE MEXICAN WINTER LEAGUE, STARTING 12/27, MAYBE THAT’S TO GET HIM READY TO BE A STARTER AGAIN, OR JUST WORK ON ARM STRENGTH. WITH THE CURRENT STARTERS, 95-97 WINS MAY BE PUSHING IT. RED SOX NATION IS SAYING GETTING LACKEY WAS TO FREE UP BUCKHOLTZ TO TRADE TO PADRES FOR A-GON. KNOCK, KNOCK, BRIAN – WAKE UP, PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF THE BOARDS, TIMES-A WASTING.
the good thing about Boston getting Cameron is that I don’t have to hear about how the Yankees should sign him anymore.
Blake-
Maybe Mats really wants to continue trying to play the field.
Btw- reminder to all….
Our old friend Ian Kennedy (whom I wish only the best) and I share a birthday. His birthday is Saturday
In the last two years the Angels have lost Teixeira, Figgins, Lackey, and K-Rod. That is a lot of talent.
sayonara hideki, we will miss you.
ELKEAL, you’re killing my eyes! Stop yelling!
MTU, that may be true but he also wanted to remain a Yankee. I think if Cashman had matched their offer he would have stayed.
Erica – always OPPC
December 14th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Btw- reminder to all….
Our old friend Ian Kennedy (whom I wish only the best) and I share a birthday. His birthday is Saturday
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Erica, hint taken!
P.S. BRIAN, WE DON’T WANT, OR NEED, AN AGING LF LIKE DAMON, UNLESS HE’S THE DH. MATSUI WOULD BE THE BETTER DH, AND THE GUY I’D WANT UP, IF THE GAME WAS ON THE LINE.
Blake-
As good as Mats is Cash believes there will be many options for DH.
Erin-
Subtlety is a specialty of mine. LOL
I started my project of converting the old home movies on VHS to DVD over the weekend. I watched my 3rd birthday party. 3-year old Erica was awesome enough to entertain her friends by doing her best Cookie Monster impression for everyone. LOL. Then again, when it was time to hit the pinata, I held the bat upside down. Oops
ELKEAL
December 14th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
P.S. BRIAN, WE DON’T WANT, OR NEED, AN AGING LF LIKE DAMON, UNLESS HE’S THE DH. MATSUI WOULD BE THE BETTER DH, AND THE GUY I’D WANT UP, IF THE GAME WAS ON THE LINE.
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Cause Damon was really unclutch during the World Series right?
DT: I misspelled ‘origami’ when I made my origami joke and I was viciously attacked. Tread lightly.
Zilla will love hitting in Anaheim, as long as they don’t wear out his knees in left field.
Toronto GM if he didn’t obtain Drabek, Brown or Gutierrez in this deal, plus supposedly paid 2/3rds of Halladay’s 2010 contract will have quite a few empty seats next year.
Wouldn’t be surprised that Lee will test FA waters, and possible be trade bait in July if Seattle not playing up to par. Their lineup even with Figgins is not very good power-wise.
If the Yankees had offered Lackey the same deal, my guess is he didn’t like NY and would have gone to Boston anyway, to fit in with some of their other jerks!!
LF FA options boil down to Holliday, Bay, Byrd right now as healthy options.
I just don’t think the Yankees were in for Matsui, as he probably would have signed for the same amount to stay in NY.
Bye Matsui
I hate change ( especially when we won the world series )
noooooooooooooooooooooo Kateeeeeeeeeee!!! First Matsui and now Kate! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! Seriously major bummer!
Erica – always OPPC December 14th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I started my project of converting the old home movies on VHS to DVD over the weekend. I watched my 3rd birthday party. 3-year old Erica was awesome enough to entertain her friends by doing her best Cookie Monster impression for everyone.
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Do us all a favor and upload the cookie monster clip to youtube! Seriously!
I’m sure Matsui would have preferred to stay with the Yankees if offered the same contract. I just don’t think it lived up to outside offers. I think he was probably offered $5 million by Cashman, and wouldn’t raise it past $5.5-$6 million. In the end, he apparently singed for $6.5 million.
IAN KENNEDY IS A SELF CENTERED SNOB AND A BUM. HE WAS THE ONLY SWB PLAYER TO PUSH KIDS AWAY, WHEN ASKED FOR HIS AUTOGRAPH. PHIL HUGHES WOULD SIGN, AND EVEN POSE WITH THE KIDS TO HAVE HIS PICTURE TAKEN. THE MAJORITY OF HIS TEAMMATES HAD A DISLIKE FOR HIM, AND HE WAS NOT THAT WELL THOUGHT OF IN NY, THUS AN EASY MOVE FOR CASHMAN. THE ONLY PERSON MISSING IAN BEING IN NY, IS IAN. OVER RATED, NEVER WILL BE MORE THAN A #5 ON A LOSSING TEAM.
IAN KENNEDY IS A SELF CENTERED SNOB AND A BUM. HE WAS THE ONLY SWB PLAYER TO PUSH KIDS AWAY, WHEN ASKED FOR HIS AUTOGRAPH. PHIL HUGHES WOULD SIGN, AND EVEN POSE WITH THE KIDS TO HAVE HIS PICTURE TAKEN. THE MAJORITY OF HIS TEAMMATES HAD A DISLIKE FOR HIM, AND HE WAS NOT THAT WELL THOUGHT OF IN NY, THUS AN EASY MOVE FOR CASHMAN. THE ONLY PERSON MISSING IAN BEING IN NY, IS IAN. OVER RATED, NEVER WILL BE MORE THAN A #5 ON A LOSSING TEAM.
…that is if he was offered a contract by Cashman at all. No indication that he actually was.
Hmmm… Marlon Byrd is flying under the radar right now…
Thoughts?
Aside from “Almost Famous” has anyone ever seen a Kate Hudson movie?
Every so often I run across one of her flicks channel surfing, and every single one is unwatchable.
NYY626
December 14th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Bye Matsui I hate change ( especially when we won the world series )
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You and me both. A part of me is still going “how could you not resign the World Series MVP???” But I’ve always loved Matsui and wish him the best (although obviously not against the Yankees!)
All the talk about Halladay wanting to be near his Florida home was just posturing and gibberish. His home is in the middle of where the Phiilies train in Clearwater and Steinbrenner Field in Tampa.
The Yankees visit the Rays 9 times during the season and the nearest Halladay gets to his home as a Phiilie is Miami when they play the Marlins.
Who was he kidding ?
CD
December 14th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Erica – always OPPC December 14th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I started my project of converting the old home movies on VHS to DVD over the weekend. I watched my 3rd birthday party. 3-year old Erica was awesome enough to entertain her friends by doing her best Cookie Monster impression for everyone.
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Do us all a favor and upload the cookie monster clip to youtube! Seriously!
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Hahaha.. I’d consider it if I knew how. I am not very tech savvy. Hooking up my new recordable DVD player was a major accomplishment
Cashman may have some kind of plan, but not all plans are good ones.
Sometimes people get too caught up in one vision that they can’t see the value in front of them. I think that is the case with Matsui.
Seriously dude, type like a grownup and lay off the all-caps.
Aside from “Almost Famous” has anyone ever seen a Kate Hudson movie?
Every so often I run across one of her flicks channel surfing, and every single one is unwatchable.
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You should ask Brandon. IIRC he would buy all of her movies if the Yankees won the WS.
Why the silence from the actual bloggers on all this action? I’d expect a few “Update:”s, at least.
Pitt, I guess you’re right – Halladay didn’t want to deal with NY. However, the fans in Philly are brutal…..not that it matters; he’ll be so great, they won’t ever have the chance to boo him.
Our pitching is not very good and our options in LF are shrinking. It appears that Cashman’s idea to sit back and wait has backfired.
Lauren
December 14th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Aside from “Almost Famous” has anyone ever seen a Kate Hudson movie?
Every so often I run across one of her flicks channel surfing, and every single one is unwatchable.
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They are indeed all unwatchable. The only other one I consider “cute” is “How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days”. “Raising Helen” could be used instead of waterboarding. “Bride Wars” wasn’t terrible, but Anne Hathaway was much better than her
As everyone knows with Cashman when he wants someone $$$ doesn’t matter. Just like when he basically handed CC a blank check. Cash just decided to move on and didn’t want Matsui back. He is laying quiet now and I expect him to pounce on his next player when we don’t expect it.
Marlon Byrd has terrible road numbers.
Erica-I came across this the other day. It’s a list of movies that are in early stages of development. Number 1 caught my interest right away!
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com.....reenplays/
DaSaint007
December 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Speaking of the CWS…
Let me be Chip for a minute here.
The Chicago White Sox are probably not going to be in contention for the next couple years, I wonder
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the White Sox will win the Central next year…
Peavy,Danks,Floyd,Buerhle,Garcia= best staff in the division
Jenks,Thornton,Putz,Nhunez= one of the top pens
C-Pierzynski,Flowers only Mauer better in div
1b-Konerko
2b-Beckham
SS-The Cuban Kid (name slips me but he’s real good!)
3b-Teahan
LF-Quentin(MONSTER if he stays healthy)
RF-Rios(i’ve got a feeling he has a real good year)
CF-?
DH-?
the Sox will win that division with that foundation
So what exactly are the BJs getting out of this deal besides Halladay being shipped to the nL where they won’t have to face him
Hmmm… Marlon Byrd is flying under the radar right now…
Thoughts?
Pokey:
Certainly a good move provided Cashman considers it.
Lauren
December 14th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Aside from “Almost Famous” has anyone ever seen a Kate Hudson movie?
Every so often I run across one of her flicks channel surfing, and every single one is unwatchable.
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I have to admit, I do enjoy “How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days”. But aside from that and “Almost Famous” her resume is pretty sad. But I am looking forward to “Nine”
Sadly, Cookie Monster has checked into rehab.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Poor guy, he’s mainlining.
Erin
December 14th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Erica-I came across this the other day. It’s a list of movies that are in early stages of development. Number 1 caught my interest right away!
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com…..reenplays/
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I caught that too!!!!!! But I think the picture had somethign to do with it
Did you get your Christmas Eve on Sesame Street yet?
One thing we all need to keep in mind with the Cashman plan is that winning the WS wasn’t realistic this past season until they called an audible and snagged Tex. He’s going to continue to make hard choices about getting younger and having flexibility in the lineup and in the field.
Blake, he wanted to play the OF more than anything else. Hmm, I suspect after a few games out there, the Angels will forget that plan; his kneews are shot now, but they’ll be ok after roaming the OF? I don’t think so.
Ugh……seriously what a day.
NO, BECAUSE HIS DEFENSE IS RATED AS POOR, NO ARM, CAN’T SEEM TO SEE THE BALL IN FLIGHT VERY WELL, THAT’S WHY I SAID WE DON’T WANT OR NEED DAMON IN LF, BUT, AS A DH. AND, I’D WOULD HAVE CHOSEN MATSUI OVER DAMON AS THE DH. RIGHT NOW, THAT DON’T SEEM TO MATTER. IF YOU WANT DAMON IN THE 2 SLOT, BRING HIM BACK FOR 1-2 YEARS AS DH, AND EMERGENCY LF, AND GO STRONG AFTER MATT HOLLIDAY FOR LF. WE NEED AT LEAST 1 MORE BAT, AND A FRONT LINE PITCHER. IF CASHMAN STILL BELIEVES JOBA CAN DO THE JOB AS A STARTER, I’LL LOSE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT OF HIM AS A GM.
cashman minus steinbrenner’s money = not too bright
but i’m sure joba and hughes will tear it up and the yankees will be just fine with jorge posada batting fifth and swinging at crap (like in the WS) now that there’s just a little more pressure on him to produce …oh and speaking of pressure did you see joba and hughes in the playoffs?
hey but as long as jeter gets his 20 million next year we should all be happy.
BREAKING NEWS
According to TMZ.com Bert & Ernie are divorcing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Erica – always OPPC
December 14th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Did you get your Christmas Eve on Sesame Street yet?
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I did get it! I haven’t gotten a chance to watch it yet though- now I think I’m just going to wait until Christmas Eve. Luckily, I don’t have to wait long. lol
From all who are in panic move…
find me a team out there without a single “glaring hole” and please hold everyone else to the same standard you hold the Yankees to.
Thanks.
Relax.
Blake:
No, not that Kevin Brown. Although when he was with the Dodgers out here I kept hoping his paychecks would land at my house by mistake.
philly fans being brutal is way overblown. they have a great team and a great stadium and have nothing to be brutal about.
on the other hand, look at what’s being written here just because the socks signed john lackey and tell me who has brutal fans?
Trolling in December… only on a Yankee blog…
“Hmmm… Marlon Byrd is flying under the radar right now…”
That’s where he belongs.
Byrd would be a good signing if they could get him on a 2 year deal and not a lot of $. Whether it’s Damon or someone else the Yanks MUST improve the outfield. I don’t want to see Melky in LF no real DH.
Philly fans are the worst behaved in sports, aside from WS and LSU fans.
Melky in LF no real DH.
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I meant and no real DH.
You guys kill me with the Marlon Byrd love….he’s 32yrs old and outside of his wak year last year his career high in homers is 10!
???
and he’s a rh hitter who would hit for very little power in our ballpark…
DeJesus is a better alternative than Byrd. He’s at least a lh hitter with similar power to Damon and he’s younger and cost controlled. Oh and he plays a GG caliber lf..
and the more I think about it the more I think Grittys’ gotta stay as he’s the only real speed we have on the roster…he’d steal 40+ with 400abs next year
whats up with the all-caps crap? nobody’s gonna read that spit.
Frome Pete Abe –
Lackey is 5-7, 4.66 against the Yankees
If Matsui plays the outfield for more than 3-4 innings he will be out for a week. The Angels told him he could play out there just to get him to sign. There is no way he can play the field.
the angels have no OFers left they may need matsui in the OF!
“Byrd would be a good signing if they could get him on a 2 year deal and not a lot of $. Whether it’s Damon or someone else the Yanks MUST improve the outfield. I don’t want to see Melky in LF no real DH.”
This is the NY Freakin’ Yankees. Aim higher.
Now Mike Cameron’s gonna sign with the Sox too. Damn, I really wanted us to sign him. Now we’re gonna be stuck with Damon.
miggs -
I agree with 95% of what you’ve been saying. But as far as the Yankees signing Matsui – if the deal-breaker is playing left field, there is no amount of money that the Yankees could pay him that he’d accept, because the Yankees (smartly, I think) do not see him in the field any longer.
I also don’t understand how he fits with the Angels, because they’re such a 1st-to-3rd type of offense and Matsui just doesn’t go there, you know? I guess they’re hoping he hits a homerun every time up so he won’t clog the basepaths. It’s also risky – if he aggravates the knees playing defense, you lose his considerable offensive threat.
Not saying anything positive or negative about Byrd, just throwing the name out there for feedback.
Pete Abe also makes the odd comment:
“He has thrown only 339.2 innings over the last two seasons because of assorted injuries. If he is healthy now, his arm should be fairly fresh.”
So being injured was a good thing – he’ll be really fresh! Let’s hope that those 339.2 innings were a high point in his durability…
To all the ledge jumpers:
Remember the hysteria here when Cashman let Bobby Abreu leave? The last time I looked, we survived won the World Series.
Blake-
I believe they are receiving 6 minor league prospects (might be 5). Brown/Taylor are potential studs – AAA level. I think Brown is rated higher. Think Austin jackson +. Five tool types of guys. At least Brown is. taylor has a lot of power projection. I just looked up Aumont and he is a very big guy. Doesn’t seem to have reached the higher levels of the minors. D’arnaud , the catcher, is still at the lower levels of the minors as well. If brandon morrow was included that would make the haul quite good. Ido not know the outfield prospect. the players involved still appears to be in flux.
If they Got brown and morrow for instance those two allone would make the deal worthwhile under the circumstances.
If the Angels prefer Lowe to Lackey, you have to wonder about what they know about Lackey.
we need to counter the rs getting lackey
if they sign bay/holliday & trade buchholz for a 1b they are back
yes joba & hughes can pitch great & miranda might replace matsui’s production but until it happens i am not convinced
our pen & offense got weaker & granderson barely replaces damon
my main concern is pitching
we have the prospects to get a good pitcher & cash has to work his magic
if i have to go another year of joba nibbling around the strike zone i’ll go nuts
Maybe Matsui wanted to drain his knees directly into the Pacific Ocean.
Betsy,
their pitching is not very good? Really?
I know you like to worry but, Amy team that has CC, AJ, Andy, Mo, Hughes, Joba, etc is FAR from “not being very good”.
Seriously, take a deep breath and don’t panic like the idiots on here do.
It’s December 14. The roster isn’t finished yet and, despite the whining of dumb 10 year olds on here, Cashman actually knows what he is doing.
Yhe way folks cry on here, you think this team didn’t just win the World Series AND just added an all star CF.
“Pete Abe also makes the odd comment:
“He has thrown only 339.2 innings over the last two seasons because of assorted injuries. If he is healthy now, his arm should be fairly fresh.”
whos that, some red socks flunky?
Betsy if you honestly think Cashman’s plan was to just sit back and wait and then make his decisions miggs may be right about you. Cashman has probably had this whole offseason planned out for months. The freaking guy started the Granderson’s talks during the WS.
If what transpired today surprised him in anyway shape or form he needs to get checked for a brain tumor, which I highly doubt is the case. And by highly doubt, I mean 100% not the case.
Doreen is right in that watching Matsui run last year was painful so in theory he’s an odd fit for the Angels – that is, until you remember that they are used to Vlad Gurrero clogging up the basepaths for the last 4-5 years, and he makes Matsui look like Usain Bolt.
Is Pete Abe serious with that comment?
Jeez… just yesterday everybody seemed very happy with the way cashman has been handling things, pulling off the trade for grandy and then taking his time to let the market shuffle out a little bit before making any rash moves. Now all of a sudden Lackey, who we probably weren’t targeting anyway, is a Sock. Halladay, one of the best pitchers in the AL, is now in the NL. And Matsui is going to the angels… it would have been nice to bring him back, but it’s pretty easy to put together an argument as to why not to. Now all of a sudden Cashman is having an awful offseason? First off I’m pretty sure the offseasons not over yet, and thus the yankees aren’t done making moves yet. Second, it’s not like the yankees made real pushes to get any of those three guys, so whatever plan cash has probably isn’t being affected.
Lets all take a step back and relax, the yankees are no better or worse off today than they were yesterday. It’s not like cashman packaged jeter and a-rod to baltimore for Ty Wiggington… no need to panic
I think cashman is being smart by not shortsightedly pulling the trigger on lackey, and any day that halladay leaves the AL east for the NL is a good day.
The Angels already have Hunter, Abreu and Rivera, not to mention they still have Gary Matthews Jr. on their hands.
All they really did was swap a RH power hitter who can’t run or play the field anymore with a lefty.
Personally, my choices for LF if I must make a change from Melky:
1. Crawford
2. Holliday
3. DeJesus
4. Carlos Gonzalez
This is the NY Freakin’ Yankees. Aim higher.
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I am just naming the options since there aren’t a lot out there. If they wait until January to try and sign Damon no one else will be left. Or do you want Vlad? Or give Holliday $100m plus?
You don’t sign players to “counter” the Red Sox. That’s fan babble.
You make moves to improve your team independent of what Boston does.
Thanks, Nick is SF.
We need a bat…like Holliday.
Drive 4-5
December 14th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
To all the ledge jumpers:
Remember the hysteria here when Cashman let Bobby Abreu leave? The last time I looked, we survived won the World Series.
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we just replaced him with tex & added an ace(cc),burnett & signed pettitte
unless joba,hughes step up we do not have enough pitching
if joba & hughes struggle & one pitcher gets hurt we are in trouble
i am not comfortable with our starting pitching
mtu the last i heard on mlbtr was that morrow was not involved in the trade.
I don’t think the Yankees have any interest in Chapman, so watch the Sox sign him, develop him and then, in a few years, they’ll have a 100 MPH throwing lefty. Stupid – when are the Yankees going to have the chance to draft a kid this talented again?
Uh oh.
Disneyland just announce the new and improved Matsuihorn ride.
“Ride on a flume of knee fluid through the lifelike scale model of the crevices on new Angel Hideki Matsui’s face.”
Talk about cross-marketing meets Japan revenue!
i dont see how ppl point out all the if’s in the yankees rotation then advocate signing sheets. if they sign sheets, he will be the biggest if in thier rotation.
I find it amazing that when a team does a deal with the Yankees, they know exactly who’s coming over in the deal, but when deals are done with other teams, they work out the ‘minor’ details like the players involved later. This Halladay-Lee deal is a doozy, and nothing seems settled as yet. Now I’m hearing JA HApp and Joe Blanton could be part of the deal.
SJ44
December 14th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
You don’t sign players to “counter” the Red Sox. That’s fan babble.
You make moves to improve your team independent of what Boston does.
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ok
imo we need another pitcher because the rs have a better pitching staff than we do
The reality is they are most likely going to lay low and wait for a better crop of FAs next season. Would you rather overpay for Lackey and Holliday now, or see how things play out and go get Lee and Crawford next year?
SJ, CC is great. I love AJ – he’s fine. Andy? I personally don’t think he’s going to be as good as he was in the 2nd half this year. Joba? I have to be honest – I have zero clue what to expect from him. Phil? You know I love him, but to me (assuming he’s a starter), this is a year for him to have growing pains.
I see Beckett, Lester, Lackey and Bucholz. Now, Bucholz isn’t great, but he’s very talented and he now has last year under his belt as far as experience.
I guess we’ll see……..If some people (not you) think I’m whining, well too bad. This is just how I see it. There aren’t a whole lot of promising pitching options (as you’ve said, you don’t think Cash is going to go into the season with 2 kids in the rotation)……and what’s up with LF? Cameron is about to give the Sox an amazing OF…….I’m just glad this is happening on one day, lol
unless joba,hughes step up we do not have enough pitching
if joba & hughes struggle & one pitcher gets hurt we are in trouble
i am not comfortable with our starting pitching
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every team has those same concerns and there is no insurance or that.
If Halladay gets hurt and Hamels and Blanton struggle the phils are in trouble
If Lackey gets hurt and Beckett and Bucholtz struggle the Sux are in trouble
I mean what does that actually mean? what Gm has contingency plans for 3/5ths of their rotation struggling or hurt?
thats why i keep saying that anyone who is calling winners and losers in the lee/halladay trade is an idiot. until you know exactly who went where, you dont have any idea who gained and who lost what.
there has been alot of speculation about who might be involved but no hard facts. i guess we wont know anything for sure until at least tomorrow. until then we only know who the principals are and have to wait for the dirty details which will in the long run determine how each team made out.
Pokey
December 14th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
The reality is they are most likely going to lay low and wait for a better crop of FAs next season. Would you rather overpay for Lackey and Holliday now, or see how things play out and go get Lee and Crawford next year?
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there might be better pitchers next year & more of them butit is still going to cost a lot for them-
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sj44
before you counter my statement save it
i don’t wan’t to hear it
i just gave my opinion
it does not mean i am panicking or i am 10 years old
if you for one second think cashman is not concerned about lackey going to the rs & him feeling some pressure to get another pitcher because of it you are wrong imo.
Let’s go, I guess you’re another one I can ignore. I don’t plan on even trying to have a conversation with someone who thinks Miggs is right about me. If you don’t like my posts, sorry. If you want to get personal, I’m not doing that. It’s bad enough I have to deal with that POS you you referenced on this board. I’m a nice person – I try (I hope I am successful most of the time) not to be rude to anyone and I have had it up to HERE with Miggs. If you’re of his ilk, I’ve no interest in dealing with you and if you can’t understand why after reading his posts about me, then I’m sorry.
I see Beckett, Lester, Lackey and Bucholz. Now, Bucholz isn’t great, but he’s very talented and he now has last year under his belt as far as experience.
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Joba is very talented and he has a yr and half of starting experience under his belt and prior to the stupid 2 and 3 innings starts he had pitched to a era of 3.13 as a starter almost 2 runs better than Bucholtz!
I mean why do you do that…you think every guy that you don’t have is better than the guys you have in your dugout.
Amazing! anybody that feels going into the season better about Bucholtz than Joba based on actual performance on the field should just watch another sport because you clearly have no idea what your watching when you look at baseball.
i think joba and hughes as #4/5 stack up pretty well, there arent any teams with cy young and walter johnson at 4/5. if they find someone who upgrades or just helps with depth, great welcome to ny. if not, i’d go to war with those guys in the back of the rotation.
He’s not worried about John Lackey. He would have been worried if they got Roy Halladay.
Betsy,
if the Yankees weren’t interested in Chapman, they wouldn’t be at his workout tomorrow.
Why don’t some of the panic stricken wait until the roster is filled out? It’s still a work in progress and there is 2 months until the start of ST.
champ809
December 14th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
unless joba,hughes step up we do not have enough pitching
if joba & hughes struggle & one pitcher gets hurt we are in trouble
i am not comfortable with our starting pitching
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every team has those same concerns and there is no insurance or that.
If Halladay gets hurt and Hamels and Blanton struggle the phils are in trouble
If Lackey gets hurt and Beckett and Bucholtz struggle the Sux are in trouble
I mean what does that actually mean? what Gm has contingency plans for 3/5ths of their rotation struggling or hurt?
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let me clear it up for you
cashman & girrardi have said on several occasions that they are not comfortable with the starting pitching
i can guarantee that both are not happy with going with hughes & joba as starters & with the debth of our starting rotation
if we signed lackey or traded for josh johnson you would be very happy
that would give us 4 rock solid starters & we only gamble on the 5th rotation spot instead of the 4th & 5th spot in addition we strengthen the pen at the same time
imo another solid starter is absolutely needed for a few reasons
Just wondering: wouldn’t both Joba and Hughes be on innings restrictions as starters next season? Hughes has never pitched a full season as a starter, correct? Nor has Joba, right?
joba will have no restrictions, phil would, thats why he would have to be the #5
Reports are that there will not be an innings limit on Joba, but there will be on Phil.
I don’t beleve Joba will be on a strict innings limitation after the innings he logged inthis year. They are probably looking at 180 innings or so, which as a 4th or 5th is about the norm. Hughes is a different issue. he only threw something like 90+ innings, so based on the 30 innings increase per year they did with Joba, he’d be looking at 120 innings.
Lackey is insurance for a possible Beckett walk if he doesn’t get the contract he wants next year. Bard is replacement for Papelbon in the same instance, even Pete mentions this fact.
i think the 5yr deal for Lackey is way out of line for Boy genius Theo. i dont recall him giving anyone over 4 yrs. what was dice K’s deal?
Josh Johnson is rock solid because the Marlins went through the growing pains with him and let him pitch…just like we need to do with Joba….we don’t need to spend 90mil to get good starting pitching as Joba and Hughes have more “talent” than Lackey it’s the coaches (Girardi/Eiland) jobs to earn their paychecks and DEVELOP the young talent that we have not just suggest them up for trades for established guys so that there’s no work involved.
the yankees use a players highest season to date (minors included) to determine the rate they are going up from. phil pitched 149 innings in 2006 so he should have a limit around 180 innings. girardi and eiland both said that joba would have no innings limit next season
Bard, aka Kyle Farnsworth Jr.?
and Hughes actually last year threw about 115 innings including his starts in the Minors so he’ll probably be good for 160-170 innings ideally next year..
braeden December 14th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Lackey is insurance for a possible Beckett walk if he doesn’t get the contract he wants next year.
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ridiculous. you don’t sign someone for $18 mill a year as insurance. once you sink that much money, you’ll be unable to find budget space for a $22 million Beckett. In other words, Lackey is the end of Beckett as a Sox.
cd rosenthall reported this am that the sox are negotiating an extention with beckett
Felix Hernandez and Cliff Lee on the same team. the Wildcard might not automatically come from the AL East anymore.
Phillies got an older player with no postseason experience.
Blue Jays wanted the moon from the Yankees,for Halladay, and like the twins settled for prospects. Sickening!
CD
tell Pete he posted it on his blog. Beckett will want a big payday, just repeated his words.
I hate to see Matsui go, but no one knows more about how those knees are holding up better than the Yankees.
I’m glad to see the Sawx sinking money into aging players that aren’t going to put them over the top. Once Beckett leaves, the dismantling will be complete, and the Sawx can spend the rest of the century choking on our dust.
I’m not the gossiping kind either; but it’s MIGHTY strange that when the anonymous article appears over the web that Kate Hudson and Alex Rodriguez dating was a publicity stunt to avoid steroid talk and her slumping career (I posted it on Friday or Saturday on the blog) they mysteriously breaks up. What do you know? Scare of jounalist really doing an investigating job uh A-Rod/A-Freud.