Another manic Monday?
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 21, 2009 
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That’s right, the headline is a Bangles reference. I’m not proud of it.
Last week, I woke up on Monday morning expecting a day more or less like any other. I needed to stop by the office and the bank, but otherwise I was just checking around for news. There was little reason to expect anything out of the ordinary.
Then there was some chatter about John Lackey taking a physical in Boston. Then a rumor about Roy Halladay and his agent being camped out in a Philadelphia hotel. Then Hideki Matsui was on his way to Los Angeles.
There’s a solid chance the Nick Johnson signing will become official, but it’s going to be tough for this Monday to rival last Monday. One of the top three free agents on the market signed a five-year deal, the World Series MVP signed a one-year deal and arguably the best pitcher in baseball was traded.
Unless Matt Holliday is involved, it’s going to be tough for this day to compare with that day.
Based on the Post article saying Cash is on to a starter by New Years, today will be a quiet Yanbkee day.
Hope the Yanks have a happy Holliday.
Yankee day that is. Heres to hoping the Holliday rumors start so the media can have a frenzy with headlines by Wednesday or Thursday.
How about this: Yankees sign Nick Johnson (a lefty DH signing) … Yankees trade for Carlos Zambrano (talented pitcher changing teams) … Mets finally sign Jason Bay (big ticket free agent signing).
what, now we’re practicing reverse psych/voodoo
I think Prince wrote it.
Think of it as a Prince reference. Either way, no need to feel unproud.
“That’s right, the headline is a Bangles reference. I’m not proud of it.”
Bangles? You ok Chad?
No. Your mixing projections systems that have different methods and scales.
It’s difficult to compare those estimates from RLYB to fangraphs – most notably because fangraphs relies only on UZR data for defensive value while SG models defense using both zone rating and UZR. Also, the estimates for pitching will be different due to the fact that fangraphs only uses FIP and RLYB uses ERA (and ERA is in IMO the much more valid way of calculating WAR for pitchers…).
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CB,
I did not realize they are using different scales.
I apologize for jumping the gun on that as my argument does not really make any sense given that fact.
YankeeRay
December 21st, 2009 at 9:29 am
Yankee day that is. Heres to hoping the Holliday rumors start so the media can have a frenzy with headlines by Wednesday or Thursday.
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I wonder if they’ll be able to come up with anything other than “______________ has a Happy Holliday” lol
CB
December 21st, 2009 at 1:42 am
“lets go yankees & myself are at lest 2 of the “we”s”
“some of the other absurd stats we’ve covered in the last day is that Gardner has one of the best OF arms in baseball, or that Swisher had a better year that Abreu or Markakis.”
let’s go yankees was the one who was arguing that Swisher had a better year last year than Abreu or Markakis.
He started that discussion.
Not sure how strong your coalition is there.
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Haha. I had to laugh when I read this.
“I think Prince wrote it.”
Correct.
I thought Brian Bruney wrote it????
Melky may only be 25, but the fact that his ISO D peaked at 21 (.080) is a potential red flag. It was the patience shown at an early age that signaled that he had real potential as a hitter. That it went the other way tends to indicate the opposite.
But Susanna Hoffs was much cuter.
Repost
Good morning one and all.
Before I went to bed last night I did four things which I thought might give me the answers to some of our more perplexing questions:
1) I consulted my weejee board
2) I re-read my book on Nostradamus
3) I entered all data into my rube goldberg machine and looked at the results
4) I made a quick trip to the Oracle at Delphi
And below is what I learned.
None of the sources agreed with each other.
No one source had the answer with absolute certainty.
But they did give me a few other things :
they told me that:
Holliday would make a decision before new year’s.
That Holliday wants to be a Yankee more than a Card.
That m is right and this situation is almost the same as last years w Tex
That Cash is laying in the weeds again
That Boras is going to give Cash the last right of refusal
That the Cards cant go as far as the Yankees can
That CB is a genius
That PatM is perceptive and knows baseball
That GB7 will be better than ever, and will get pizza, beer, etc. but no more cigarettes
That Nick will not loose his sense of humor as many have aledged.
That Betsy will continue to worry
That Erica might still have a chance with Damon
That Wang will heal better than anybody expected and will return
that the Yanks would repeat as WC
That some things are essentially unknowable
And that time will tell
But the biggest thing I learned from the most powerful sources in the Universe is:
That know matter what happens it’s ALL GOOD.
These are THE FACTS and I am stickin to them !
I can have nothing more to say on the matter.
CB
Nice to mix in some humor along with all those #.
The only thing Brian Bruney wrote was his ticket out of town.
And I would like to know who made these allegations.
I’m not sure I get the Bruney/Hoffs tie in.
Wasn’t Susanna Hoffs from San Francisco?
Or did she didn’t she leave her heart there or something…?
I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.
CB,
You referenced last night that I relied on many of the statistics used in these projections in my argument for Swisher.
I appreciate advanced statistics and find them very useful. However, I am becoming more and more wary of using them as projections for future success. For example the whole Gardner would be more valuable then Melky next season argument, I do not buy at all based on the data available.
You have also discussed at length the perils of using these statistics in projections. So I am wondering why you put weight into a projection of 25 players? If it is so difficult to project 1 player, how can a projection 25 players be at all accurate?
Betsy -high on pie
December 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
GB, hope you’re doing well!
Alex is a superior hitter to Tex and should be hitting behind him. Tex is the one who needs protection as he was awful without Alex – even worse than he normally is in April.
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It will be difficult to pitch around or walk Teixeira with 2 or 3 hitters already on base. It was more that Teixeira’s not as likely to go out of the strike zone as Rodriguez. Really, it will affect only 40 or so games. It will be interesting to watch the makeup of the batting order the coming season.
“I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.”
That’s probably why they broke up.
MTU, that goofy know-it-all Delphi should know that you can’t eat pizza and drink beer without a cigarette. But, it’s going on 8 days. NOW LEAVE ME ALONE…I’M GOING CRAZY.
Morning, Maine. They should have left the Marlboro Man alone and shot the Beast Of Bay Pines. Good God, what a hideous creature.
At least there wasn’t an Eternal Flame reference…
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December 21st, 2009 at 9:32 am
So the Swisher trade thread got referenced by the MLB Trade Rumors site.
Great. Thanks to a bunch of boring, trade-geeks in here, Swish gets to hear how “Yankee fans” have been discussing trading him.
Thanks for the great season Swish. Now you can leave, we want a bigger and better outfielder!
The underbelly strikes again.
Rich in NJ
December 21st, 2009 at 9:46 am
“I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.”
That’s probably why they broke up.
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LOL
“I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.”
Neither can Susanna Hoffs.
GB7-
LOL !
It did also say that Melky would just fine in LF next year.
AND that Randy I will continue to battle you
But alas. NO MORE CIGARETTES.
Please Dont shoot the messenger with your Blunderbuss.
Nick in SF at PHL
December 21st, 2009 at 9:49 am
“I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.”
Neither can Susanna Hoffs
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Unless Brian Cashman and Scott Boras come to terms on Matt Holliday, it won’t be a Manic Monday …….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s48kuKLf0mE
That song reminds me of the public pool my mom used to take me to. They played it all the time that summer.. Funny how songs trigger weird memories like that..
I’m a child of the 80′s so I know that the Bangles were Hoffs, the Peterson sisters and Michele Steele. They reunited recently, but Steele declined. I guess she figured correctly that no one was interested in the Bangles anymore.
Lets see what Holliday headline puns I can come up with:
(Team) has a happy Holliday!
Home for the Hollidays? (rumors)
Home for the Hollidays! (decisions)
Holliday Cheer
The Holliday for giving.
Have a Holliday Jolly Christmas.
Holliday Rush
Holliday Traffic
Happy Holliday!
Holliday takes a Holiday.
It’s Holliday for the Holidays!
A Holliday Holiday.
Ok. I’m punned out.
Blake-
morning.
want a relevant song.
It’s from the Doors.
“Break on tru to the other side”. Cash.
4 more days of Holliday shopping.
“thru” not “tru”
Oh and of course…just in case Matt decides to surprise everyone and sign in South Asia:
Holliday in Cambodia!
I think if NYY goes after Holliday, Cabrera (who’s the better player between him and Gardner) gets traded. Gardner would probably be the better bench/part time player. He’s no full time starter. There’s too many things that he can’t do and gets over powered at the plate too often.
“I don’t think I could name any of the Bangles other than Susanna Hoffs.”
I don’t even know what the Bangles are
I don’t want a Holliday in the Sun!
Sex Pistols-
Dead Kennedys reference, nice!
Jello Biafra ran for mayor of SF — he lost.
Ok.. I don’t appreciate getting pop ups when I click on the comment section. Pop ups = me finding some other blog
Thanks for the chuckles, MTU.
(ummmmm….Chuckles candy. I’d kill for some right now…especially the red ones and the licorice ones).
Nick Johnson walks like an egyptian
yup. That’s right
Ken Davidoff has a note today that the yankees are looking for a starter and that despite that Ben Sheets is “not even on the board” because they have serious concerns about his injury status.
That could all change once Sheets throws, but I do wonder why Sheets hasn’t had his throwing session for teams yet given how far we are into free agency. He’s likely still dealing with injury issues and trying to get back in true throwing shape.
Spending any money on a non-Sheets starter will likely be one of the poorer values a team could generate right now via free agency. Marquis, piniero, etc. would be horrible in the AL East.
And besides the Braves not a lot of teams are looking to trade pitching.
I don’t buy the posts on Zambrano – he has a terrible contract and could be a disaster in NY.
CB
If Sheets’s asking price is still $12m, that would be my response too.
Patrick
December 21st, 2009 at 9:55 am
I don’t even know what the Bangles are
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Patrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bangles
Surely you’ve heard “Walk Like an Egyptian” ????
OK….this is getting out of hand. Pittsburgh is trying to buy a WS title. They just signed Javier Lopez.
If the Yankees can’t get Sheets or Ducsherrer, barring a trade, there is not an upgrade over Phil and Joba on the market.
And please don’t trade for Lowe. I am so glad that the Yankees did not make the mistake of signing him last year.
“Pittsburgh is trying to buy a WS title.”
NTTAWWT
Anyone who can pitch past 5 is an upgrade over Phil or Joba
Thank you Patrick!
I’m starting to wonder if Bay or Holliday might start looking into a one year gig and take a flier that the economy is a whole lot better in 10-12 months?
Rich,
That’s very possible. I really think the team is completely done with the era of giving guys like Marquis or Garland free agent deals.
That leak may have been aimed at Sheets. However, it does sound like Sheets will not sign for quite a while given he’s planning that throw day in January.
He’s likely planning that throw day in January because he’s not ready right now. Which in itself isn’t great news.
Either way, the opportunity cost of trying to sign Sheets may be comparatively high if he is going to hold out to sign until well into January and other options come off the board.
Maybe this is all a ruse but there’s been very little talk about Sheets and all of it has focused on him not signing until late.
“That could all change once Sheets throws, but I do wonder why Sheets hasn’t had his throwing session for teams yet given how far we are into free agency”
Wondered the same. The deeper we’ve gotten into FA, the worse it looks IMO. We’ve already learned fellow reclamation project Bedard is apparently a long ways from being ready to go. Could it be the same for Sheets?
vinny-b (NJ and Granderson – thank you Cashman!)
December 21st, 2009 at 9:58 am
Nick Johnson walks like an egyptian
yup. That’s right
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It’s understandable after being wrapped up like a 3,000 year old mummy.
If there is any useful information to be gleaned from the (false) Zambrano report, it’s that Cash is probably thinking in unconventional ways to acquire a starter that would be a definite upgrade.
GB-
One thing about all of the 4 sources of the Apocalype’s predictions that was left unanswered and left me still wanting was:
What will the Yankees do about Chapman ?
There a nothing but dead silence on that one.
“And please don’t trade for Lowe. I am so glad that the Yankees did not make the mistake of signing him last year”
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this needs to keep being posted until it has zero chance of happening. No to Rob’s ugly brother
No, No a thousand times no on Justin Duchscher. Why would he even be discussed? One season as a starter, 141 innings in that season that led him to arm surgery.
Chad Gaudin is a better bet for 2010 than Duckshlepper
Good job, GB 7 ……
You’re gaining on it. Just get through another day.
No doubt Nurse Karloff is a distant memory. With any luck you won’t see her at a Single A game in 2010.
Keep on truckin’
If it’s true that the Yankees want to sign a pitcher by the New Year, and Sheets doesn’t throw until after the New Year. Then I guess the Yankees aren’t looking at Sheets. Did I get that right?
Can something be done about the post eating filter?
i just figured the reason why Sheets hasn’t signed yet is because his Demands ( 12 million ) are too high.
MTU
December 21st, 2009 at 10:06 am
GB-
One thing about all of the 4 sources of the Apocalype’s predictions that was left unanswered and left me still wanting was:
What will the Yankees do about Chapman ?
There a nothing but dead silence on that one.
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I think Kid Steinbrenner has been saving his allowance to buy that one for his dad for Christmas.
How are you doing GB? At your brother’s now? Heal well and fast.
Neil
December 21st, 2009 at 10:09 am
Good job, GB 7 ……
You’re gaining on it. Just get through another day.
No doubt Nurse Karloff is a distant memory. With any luck you won’t see her at a Single A game in 2010.
Keep on truckin’
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Thanks for the kind words and encouragement, Neill. It’s been tough. I’ve chewed my finger nails up past my elbows. I’m gonna be really upset if I find out that it’s finger nails and not cigarettes that cause lung cancer.
It’s understandable after being wrapped up like a 3,000 year old mummy
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Wouldn’t a three thousand year old mummy be wrapped up less than a brand new mummy? After years of sitting around the fiber wrappings would decompose or be eaten by bugs. A new mummy would surely be far tighter wrapped and a more apt choice for your joke.
Thanks, Bronx. Yeah, I broke out last night in a blazing gun battle. Yeah, in Cape Coral, outside of Ft, Myers, now…doing my best to annoy my younger brother. That’s my my mom had him….to give me somebody to annoy besides her.
Glad you are out of the hoosegow!
Here’s a note on Javier Lopez’ signing with Pittsburgh.
“Kovacevic notes that Lopez is the only lefty reliever on the Pirates’ 40-man roster.
***Talking to Lopez, Kovacevic learned that part of the appeal of Pittsburgh was the opportunity to pitch to both righties and lefties and possibly toss multiple innings per appearance.***
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Only part of the appeal, Javy? I can’t wait to find out the reast of the appeal.
GB-
Make sure to behave yourself. Be kind to your brother.
Otherwise i might have to bring out the heavy artillery to keep you in line.
I know you fear the heavy artillery at my disposal.
***reast*** of the appeal
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rest
Perhaps because they sell better dictionaries.
Factoid:
The Cardinals have their version of reality but we’ve got the the truth. And the MONEY.
MTU
December 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
GB-
Make sure to behave yourself. Be kind to your brother.
Otherwise i might have to bring out the heavy artillery to keep you in line.
I know you fear the heavy artillery at my disposal.
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He’s alreeady threatened to hire The Beast Of Bay Pines.
“Only part of the appeal, Javy? I can’t wait to find out the rest of the appeal.”
Manny Sanguillen’s BBQ stand is very close to the Pirates bullpen.
Please, DO NOT trade for Big Z. He’s a huge injury risk and a terrible ‘clubhouse’ guy. Let him stay in the NL where he can bash dingers for the cubbies.
It’s Hughes and Sheets > Bedard > Duchsherer
- OR –
Joba and Hughes.
If it’s Holliday then:
J and H are fine
Others are fine too.
I like Lee to replace Pettite next year.
Any takers ?
So the Yanks want to get a starter by New Year’s? They’re leaking a deadline? This smells to high heavens of BS.
I have only 3 more weapons left at my disposal:
Rubic’s cube
Alladin’s lamp
AND the one I really dont WANT to use owing to it’s danger.
PANDORA’S BOX
I”ll save all of these for the time they may really be needed.
For the present we can resort to NORMAL means of knowing.
MTU:
It will require a boost in budget for ’11, which is certainly possible, to get Holliday this year and add Lee next.
Consider, they have $144M committed for ’11 right now. Say for the sake of argument, Holliday is locked in at a AAV of $17M. That’s $161M. You then add FA’s Rivera, Jeter and Lee, which will send you soaring over $200M before even discusing Arb cases for guys like Hughes and Joba.
Holliday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Watching the Baltimore/White sox Game #4 from 1983. Man, it was a pleasure to watch the young lefty, Britt Burns pitch. Yanks were finally able to trade for him, but, the degenerative hip ended his career before he ever made a Yankee appearance at age 26. He was sensational, though.
Lost-
Where are you when we really NEED you !
You are letting us down.
While things are slow on other fronts, I hope you guys will tolerate a potentially stupid question.
Happily, ARod’s hip seems OK. However, to better preserve his health going forward – say from 2011 or so onwards, wouldn’t the Yanks consider giving him a lot more time as DH (especially after Posada’s contract ends?) If so, they would need another 3B.
So here comes the stupid question; why not get Montero up to speed as a 3B, rather than strictly a catcher (one that might not be able to stay behind the plate anyway.)
It’s been my impression that catchers often make the conversion to 3B reasonably well. C also should easily have the arm for playing 3rd.
A move like that, if feasible, would mean that ARod and Montero could shift between 3B and DH (and Montero could possibly still be a back up catcher.)
GB7, I believe that you’ve seen Monty play. Do you believe he’d be capable of playing third? CB, SJ, Rich, Phil and all you other baseball “mavins” too numerous to name, what do you think?
MTU
December 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am
I have only 3 more weapons left at my disposal:
Rubic’s cube
Alladin’s lamp
AND the one I really dont WANT to use owing to it’s danger.
PANDORA’S BOX
I”ll save all of these for the time they may really be needed.
For the present we can resort to NORMAL means of knowing.
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I’ve heard that Pandora was a real dish, though. I like dangerous boxes.
“Watching the Baltimore/White sox Game #4 from 1983. Man, it was a pleasure to watch the young lefty, Britt Burns pitch”
Burns ended up tossing around 150 pitches in that game, pitching into extras. Lot of pitching in that ALCS.
Please no, lol – that was one of the most annoying baseball days of my life, lol
GB-
That’s why you’re the Green Beret and I am the devout coward.
Will, I doubt that Montero could. 1st base and a few emergency starts in right field in YS or left field in Boston, maybe. The best athlete right now is probablt Austin Romine, who could probably play either corner infield or outfield spot, full time. I’m hoping that Laird comes in to backup Rodriguez and play 1st and the outfield.
Last night I had a dream that the Yankees signed Holliday to a backloaded deal.
Ninja-
you’re Kato right ?
Frank
December 21st, 2009 at 10:50 am
“Watching the Baltimore/White sox Game #4 from 1983. Man, it was a pleasure to watch the young lefty, Britt Burns pitch”
Burns ended up tossing around 150 pitches in that game, pitching into extras. Lot of pitching in that ALCS.
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He could have been a special pitcher. 70 wins by the age of 26.
Here’s my plan: Sign Wang (b/c he is probably the best pitching option), use the money saved on Holliday, and wait for mid – season to trade for a pitcher if need be.
Marquis, Pinero are filler.
Lower and Zambrano have bad deals.
“Patrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bangles
Surely you’ve heard “Walk Like an Egyptian” ????”
You’re right I have heard of them, my bad. Keep in mind I was born when they were becoming popular so it’s not like that name “The Bangles” has ever been in my consciousness.
However, I do love the movie the Goonies and apparently they wrote a song for the soundtrack.
MTU
December 21st, 2009 at 10:52 am
GB-
That’s why you’re the Green Beret and I am the devout coward.
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I just didn’t know any better. I just enjoyed jumping out of planes.
been meaning to ask this question, but work has kept me away from you all – does signing Nick Johnson back add him to the list of “home-grown Yankees” playing for the team (the “Andy Pettite Rule”) or was he gone too long to qualify?
Rishi,
I think he should be on the list. He came up with the Yanks and went through their system so I’d say he’s home-grown.
GB, I don’t like Gardner, so I would hope that’s not the case. I think Cash is going to leave LF alone for now – I just don’t think he (or Hal, more importantly) is interested in yet another expensive long-term deal when we have so many of those in the first place
If the Yankees have any notion of ever developing young SP, they really need to leave Joba and Hughes in the rotation. It’s a very old team complicated by the fact that we have to give two more long-term deals to Jeter and Mo (I think Posada is gone after 2011). It’s just a team with very little flexibility – we’re similar to the Sox, except the Sox contracts will be expiring next year. It may cost us some games now, but we can’t afford to have tunnel vision – we DO have to think about the future (Joba and Hughes are a huge part of that). Given that our the only help we may get from our minors in the next couple of years is Montero (maybe Romine), it’s vital that Joba and Phil be given the chance to succeed. If not, we’re going to be a very old, very expensive team – the total opposite of what Cash is trying to do.
GB-
I guess you’re not as smart as I thought you were.
You seem to have your priorities in life straight.
But I have a question:
If you just like jumpin outta planes wouldn’t it have made more sense to just do it on the ground ?
And it’s so much more convenient.
I guess I must be missing something ? (Dont dare say what !).
Patrick
December 21st, 2009 at 10:57 am
“Patrick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bangles
Surely you’ve heard “Walk Like an Egyptian” ????”
You’re right I have heard of them, my bad. Keep in mind I was born when they were becoming popular so it’s not like that name “The Bangles” has ever been in my consciousness.
However, I do love the movie the Goonies and apparently they wrote a song for the soundtrack.
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Patrick, I was a young one when they were popular too, so I can totally understand why you didn’t recognize the name.
“I think he should be on the list. He came up with the Yanks and went through their system so I’d say he’s home-grown.”
I agree he was drafted by the Yankees and came up through their system and even played on the same WS team as Pettitte that came up a couple games short.
I don’t buy what Ken Davidoff has to say – he said that a week ago and it makes no sense. By that measure, Sheets wouldn’t be on anyone’s radar. He’s the only SP that has any interest for me……Since they have such a good relationship with Casey Close, why can’t they talk to him and see if he will allow a BP session for the Yanks? Short of Sheets, the Yankees are going to have to go at it with a wing and a prayer (Joba and Phil).
I just opened up another fortune cookie and guess what it said :
NJ is homegrown.
I believe the Yanks will sign Holliday and trade Swisher and his over $5M contract to an NL team. Melky becomes the starter in RF & Hoffmann or Gardner as the backup. I expect Hairston back as the Utility guy as well. So in essence it would be Holliday/Granderson/N Johnson for Damon/Swisher/Matsui. Note NJ can play 1B as a backup and I believe Miranda will be up as well. Defense would be much improved and so would team age and offense too IMO. The Swisher trade & probably Gardner too would bring back a long man or LH bullpen arm. I believe the Yanks are willing to go with both Joba & Hughes with Aceves/Gaudin/Mitre as backups along with Nova and a couple of other minor leaguers.
Rich, what did the Zambrano report say? Thanks!
Awesome! thanks for the input – so he “counts”…add him to the list!
MTU
December 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
GB-
I guess you’re not as smart as I thought you were.
You seem to have your priorities in life straight.
But I have a question:
If you just like jumpin outta planes wouldn’t it have made more sense to just do it on the ground ?
And it’s so much more convenient.
I guess I must be missing something ? (Dont dare say what !).
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Well, I needed a hobby, so, I chose this. I was at Ft. Hood, Texas and learning to play golf (I suppose you could say I was learning). My golfing instructor was Orville Moody (who two years later won the US Open. After my first two lessons, he advised me to find a hobby that wasn’t so dangerous. I didn’t understand that, until I found out that he was referring to as too dangerous to others…not me. A month later I was sent to SF complex at Ft. Bragg, NC. After that, I got orders to Vietnam. I always suspected that Orville had something to do with that.
Who said the Yankees wanted to sign a SP by New Year’s? That’s dumb of them to put a deadline on it – I don’t buy it, especially since the only options now are Sheets, Deutscherer and a bunch of bums.
Remember this people.
Matt Holliday is an Alpha male, and he belongs on our team.
Let’s make him part of the pack.
What do you say Cash !
“Matt Holliday is an Alpha male, and he belongs on our team”
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MTU: ever play GTA IV? You sound like Brucie
GB-
thanks for sharing. Now i understand. It wasn’t you fault.
Gotcha.
partial privledges restored.
Vinny-
NO. He sounds like ME !
not the other way around.
Get your facts straight.
I been ordered not to be serious until we sign Holliday, or until he moves on.
Doctor’s orders.
If the Yankees do go after Zambrano and sign him.Who would have the better starting rotation,the Yankees of the Red Sox?
Sabathia vs Beckett
Burnett vs Lester
Pettite vs Lackey
Zambrano vs Dice k
Chamberlain or Hughes vs Buckholz
GB, you sure sound like you’ve got your spirits back, and that’s good to hear. Thank God you escaped.
I have a weak heart and he said the stress could kill me if I didn’t stop being so serious.
He recommended a daily dose of laughter to solve my problem.
Carlos Zambrano?
Can somebody link the original source of this rumor?
Thank you
CC is better than Beeckett
Lester is better than AJ
Pettitte and Lackey are even
Dice-K is better than Zambrano
Chamberlain or Hughes are as good as Buckholz.
boston by a nose
here you are Bret
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....9U0jIMUpMN
If we asked about Zambrano we really don’t have a budget.
Halos just lost another key player. Darren Oliver expected to sign with Texas pending his physical according to MLBTR.
For all those keeping track, they’ve lost:
Figgins
Lackey
Oliver
Hello Seattle!
Here is a good stress management plan:
Deep breathing first thing in the morning, before meals and before bedtime. (cost = free)
Hot bath in epsom salts, baking soda and 10 drops of lavendar oil (a natural relaxant) once per week. (cost = $5/month)
30 minute session in sauna once per week broken down into 3 10 minute intervals with showering/rinsing of toxins between intervals. ($20-30 per month w/ gym membership)
1 30 minute Yoga session once per month ($10/month)
1 massage therapy session, female, Asian ($60 w/ happy ending and tip)
GB-
I dont play golf.
But I once wanted to learn.
I asked my neighbor if he could give me a few pointers.
But I did not mean to be on the end of his verbal barbs though. That wasn’t what I meant.
He hurt my feelings so badly I will never go near a golf course.
And i live in an area where the golfing is fabulous.
And no GB I aint telling YOU where. Stay with your brother.
you guys are forced to put with each other.
Brett-
You da man !!!!!
Thanks for your input, GB. Much appreciated.
“I believe the Yanks will sign Holliday and trade Swisher and his over $5M contract to an NL team.”
I propose that all future ridiculous trade musings be limited to the acquisition of pitching.
I’ll start!
To SF: Chad Gaudin, Kei and the very old and expensive Derek Jeter(he’s a free agent next season anyway and NO WAY are the Yanks going that route!)
From SF: Tim Lincecum (sans the stoner hair) and Kung Fu Panda Sandoval. (Arod will play SS)
So wait you wanted to learn golf and your neighbor made fun of you so you gave it up? Maybe you should take up knitting or baking.
Asking about Zambrano does not say to me the Yanks don’t have a budget. For all intents and pruposes, they have about 10 million left to hit the magical 200 AAV marker.
If the Cubs eat some of Carlos’ salary, and coupled with Melky and maybe a minor league arm, I dont see why the Yanks don’t at least entertain this thought.
In 2009, Matsui batted 5th in 63 games. Alex batted 4th in 122 games.
That’s a whole lot of games Matsui wasn’t batting behind Alex “protecting” him.
don’t know why NYY asked about Zombrano. Hughes and Chamberlain will both probably be better starting pitchers
Patrick-
I have Arthritis too !
While we’re considering possible rotation help, a name to keep in mind is Eric Bedard. He’ll be 31 at the start of the season, has a 51-41 lifetime record in 6 seasons including 4 full seasons in the AL East, is a lefty with a 3.71 lifetime ERA, with an 8.8 K/9 rate. If he’s healthy, he could add effective pitching depth to the retoation for at least the first half of the season.
Patrick-
Let’s not get mean spirited about this ! Please.
The way the pitching market is shaping up teams are primed to get hosed on bad contracts.
That goes for both free agent signings and trades.
Allocating additional resources to pitching, at this point in time, for the yankees could be an absolute waste.
Saint-
He wont be ready till around mid-season.
Article in the SPI on it the other day.
“If he’s healthy, he could add effective pitching depth to the retoation for at least the first half of the season.”
Bedard is not expected back until at least may. There’s also speculation that he won’t be ready until the second half.
He’s not even close right now.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....cation=rss
Pettitte and Lackey are not even.
Zambrano’s numbers have been steadily dropping as his injuries and weight go up. The Cubs would have to eat Zambrao’z weight in $100 bills for NYY to take him on.
Thanks fellas. Guess he’s behind even Wang then.
“In 2009, Matsui batted 5th in 63 games. Alex batted 4th in 122 games.
That’s a whole lot of games Matsui wasn’t batting behind Alex “protecting” him”
Overall, the Yankees got a .781 OPS from the 5th spot with 32 homers and 101 rbi on the year. Matsui was good for nearly half those homers (15) and RBI (48) and posted an .850 OPS hitting 5th. This means in the 100 games Matsui did not hit 5th the Yankees got a fairly pedestrian 17 homers and 53 RBI with an OPS below .750.
Frank
No debate that Hideki is a good 5 hitter but isn’t it Alex’s production that people are concerned about and not so much the 5 hitter?
Not sure where to find the info other than checking individual boxscores but it would be interested to see how Alex did with Matsui vs other 5 hitter hitting behind him.
GB7 – My dad quit smoking 2 packs of unfiltered Pall Malls a day (for 35+ years) when he was 55 years old. If he hadn’t quit then, he wouldn’t have survived the series of operations he needed at 58 to repair the damage smoking had already done his major arteries. He’s 79 now. Good luck w/quitting. It could add 25 years to your life.
Unless you’re already pushing 113 then maybe smoking’s what keeps you alive.
I found this article. It’s probably not reliable but it states that “the Yankees are working on another ‘big acquisition,’ from what I have been told by people close to their front office. I have no idea who it is, or if it’s close, but, for the Mets sake, I’m hoping it’s a trade”.
We will see I guess!
http://www.metsblog.com/2009/1.....ng-bluffs/