Happy holidays from middle America
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Dec 25, 2009 
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Word is, it might actually snow in Sikeston, Missouri today. A white Christmas is a rare thing where I grew up, so some people — my mother being one of them – are pretty excited about the possibility.
Of course, we’re talking about two or three inches at the absolute most. If my mother ever dealt with real snow, her sense of excitement might change.
Today I just wanted to wish everyone a happy holiday. Like Sam said last night, I wouldn’t expect much news through the weekend, but I’m sure we’ll both be checking in from time to time just the same.
The number of kind of emails and holiday wishes I’ve gotten the past few days have been amazing. Thank you all for welcoming me into your world. Let’s all enjoy the holiday season and get ready for that next sacred day on the calendar.
Pitchers and catchers.
Happy Holidays to all the LoHudders and especially Chad and Sam for turning this blog into a true reflection of the Yankee organization and Yankee fans. This place has been a joy to read and post on especially since October when the Yankees started on their journey towards their 27th World Series Championship. Let’s get number 28 next year boys.
Merry Christmas, Chad!
I hope that Santa brought you a laptop ( a netbook, even?)
Enjoy the snow with your family, and thanks to you and Sam for a wonderful job.
Cheers!
And in the words of Tiny Tim (no, not that one) may God bless us all!
I am thankful for so much this time of year and realize all the blessings I have. My cup runneth over with my lohud family and our Yankee fandom. And truly, the cherry on the cake has been our dashing trio of Chad, Sam, and Josh. Seriously what sweeties we have been graced with. THANK YOU GUYS!!!
Happy Holidays to everyone!
Merry Christmas
Just a question – do people consider it unPC to say Merry Christmas? I said Happy Hanukkah during Hanukkah, which is now over. Or is it that Kwanza and other celebrations are also in the mix and that Happy Holidays covers it all?
Anyway, since today is Christmas for those who celebrate Christmas, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I will try to get a handle on the different holidays because I think it is important to honor each tradition. If I get some time maybe I can try to find out the dates for whatever holidays are upcoming, in case anyone is interested.
all my best to you too Chad– Trisha–I think, I think it’s A-OK and I hope you have a wonderful holiday ( PC)
“Just a question – do people consider it unPC to say Merry Christmas?”
I don’t think so. There seems to be a segment of the “media” that likes to pretend that such is the case, but I think it’s a gambit on their part.
“Merry Christmas”
Rich,
Same to you. Yes, I remember you from that other site and you’re quite different now than back then. You and I went a round or two back around 2004 and 2005 when that place was more like Dodge City of the internet.
Gardner is better than you think!
First, why in the world would Gardner play LF and Granderson be in CF? Gardner can cover more ground than Granderson. I would play Gardner in CF and let Granderson Platoon in LF.
Also, if you look at how many extra plays Gardner makes a week his OPS is solid. People were luke warm about Melky, but I was one who felt Gardner should have been playing. Gardner would have saved at least 2 hits a week which I will equate to 3 bases (figure one was a double and 1 was a single). I think that is MORE than fair. Saving 3 bases a week is about 76 bases over the course of a year. In 600 AB’s that adds 125 points on your OPS. When you add in the SB advantage (let’s assume Gardner steals 50 bases and gets caught 13 times, this would be worth 50-26 or 24 more bases) his total would be 100 extra bases or .167 points of OPS or an adjusted OPS of .724 + .167 = 890! Gardner also had an OPS of .756 when he was playing more regularly in the first half. Because Granderson is better defensively than Melky, let’s assume that instead of saving 76 bases over Melky, Gardner only saves 36 bases over Granderson over the course of the year. This would be an equivalent OPS of .724 + .100 or .824.
Gardner is not great, but he is much better than people think and was a more valuable CF than Melky last year as well. If he can give us the same .724 OPS playing every day in CF, we would be just fine there.
crawdaddy
Merry Christmas to you too.
I don’t recall that, but I apologize if I said anything offensive.
Merry Christmas every-one.
May your holiday season* be healthy and happy. Thanks to Sam, Chad and Josh for all their hard work and insights. And thanks to all those who frequent the blog and make it such an interesting virtual meeting space.
*that is not intended to be politically correct – it is just respectful of everyone’s beliefs.
You know what?
We’re gonna win this thing again next year so if Mr. Holliday(father or son) don’t wanna be a part of it then, so be it.
That’s all I have to say on the matter.
Gardner plays every day and Granderson platoons?!!??!
Talk about getting a lump of coal in your stocking!
Wait!
Stop the presses.
Why didn’t I think of that?
Granderson to platoon.
Yes!
Such a simple solution, mind boggling.
een playing. Gardner would have saved at least 2 hits a week which I will equate to 3 bases (figure one was a double and 1 was a single). I think that is MORE than fair. Saving 3 bases a week is about 76 bases over the course of a year. In 600 AB’s that adds 125 points on your OPS. When you add in the SB advantage (let’s assume Gardner steals 50 bases and gets caught 13 times, this would be worth 50-26 or 24 more bases) his total would be 100 extra bases or .167 points of OPS or an adjusted OPS of .724 + .167 = 890
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I did not know Einstein was a baseball fan.
How did baseball get this far without the mathematical analysis?
Good morning and happy holidays to everyone. I hope this day finds everyone happy and healthy(and that means no GB7 smoking).
I did search under my tree this morning and, unfortunately, Matt Holliday’s signed Yankee contract was not there.
trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS!
December 25th, 2009 at 9:19 am
And in the words of Tiny Tim may God bless us all!
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Trisha, it’s Christmas Day. Perhaps we all should refrain from calling Dustin Pedroia names.
Boston is close to coming to terms with Feliz Nadidad. More later.
austinmac
December 25th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Good morning and happy holidays to everyone. I hope this day finds everyone happy and healthy(and that means no GB7 smoking).
I did search under my tree this morning and, unfortunately, Matt Holliday’s signed Yankee contract was not there.
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Mind reading is a dangerous thing. My brother has hidden all of the lighters and matches when he left this morning. Do you think that he might not trust me?
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.
Thanks to Sam, Chad and Josh for all of their great work on the blog.
GB7,
How are you feeling? Happy holidays to you.
Have a good one GB! Just get through one more day, right?
Christmas Eve rumors: Yanks talking to Reed Johnson
By Benjamin Kabak
The baseball world slows down a bit on Christmas Eve as executives, agents and players settle in for some quality time with their families. The Yankees though are still working on their holiday shopping. As Joel Sherman reported this afternoon, the Yankees are “talking regularly” with Reed Johnson and his representatives. Johnson, 33, would be a left field target for the Yanks, and he would give them some flexibility as he is a right-handed batter who can play all three outfield positions. He doesn’t, however, hit too well. He has a career line of .282/.344/.411 with a 95 OPS+ and has had an OPS+ above 100 just twice in seven years and not at all since 2006. He played just 65 games last year and has averaged 84 games per season over the last three years while hitting just .269/.333/.383. Brett Gardner and Jamie Hoffmann can probably do that. · (48) ·
Let´s go into the Season with Gardi and Hoffmann if it turns out that they can´t bring it! Trade for one! But maybe Cashman got the right man! I can´t say anything about Hoffmann, because I haven´t seen him!
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100%
and no one else can say anything about Hoffmann either
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
December 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
GB7,
How are you feeling? Happy holidays to you.
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Hello, Fran. I’m doing fine today. Thank you for asking. Other than one small detail, it’s a good day. Hope all is going well on this holiday for you and your family.
My thought on Reed Johnson is that at his age, in this market, with his stats, he would likely have to take a paycut from his $3m salary last season.
In light of the foregoing, if the Yankees really wanted him, they would have signed him already. Consequently, I think he is nothing more than a fallback option, one that I would hope they pass on.
I would go with Gardner/Hoffman unless a very good player is acquired. If they don’t work out, they can upgrade by the trading deadline.
Hey Guys
I need advice. It is acceptable to wear my new Pettitte World Series jersey all day or do you think I should wear something a little more Christmas appropriate?
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates!
In light of the foregoing, if the Yankees really wanted him, they would have signed him already. Consequently, I think he is nothing more than a fallback option, one that I would hope they pass on.
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Rich,
Don’t you think the Yanks are playing the waiting game with Holliday? Waiting for him to come to his senses.
mick
I would like to think so.
How are you feeling? Happy holidays to you.
86w183
December 25th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Have a good one GB! Just get through one more day, right?
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Happy holiday, 86. thanks for the kind thoughts. Yes…one more day, but, it doesn’t really seem to be getting better. If figure to have the habit beaten within 40 years. That’s my goal. 40 years straight. I’ll take back Gehrig’s consecutive streak for the Yankees.
Gammons being Gammons (via MLB Trade Rumors):
While calling Scott Boras “brilliant”, Gammons questions his wisdom in turning down the five-year deal worth $16.5 each season to Matt Holliday by the Red Sox. That could be the best offer he has seen so far.
I don’t see Reed Johnson as an upgrade over Gardner.
rich
I would love to know what Holliday’s bottom line # is?
Chad, Lambert’s Cafe in Sikeston…… best down home cooking I’ve ever had. Home of the throwed rolls. What a great meal and experience there. Have a safe and great holiday. I read often, post rarely…. thanks for the great job the three of you do.
Being in a position of strength, meaning we can take him or leave him, is a luxury.
Really, though, what is the major differences between offers for Holliday? Can it really be that big?
It really comes down to whether he wants to play here or not.
Maybe he knows he can’t take the pressure of NY.
Holliday may not be all that crazy. His natural swing and power is to right and right center field. He most like realizes that Fenway will screw up his swing like it has with other right handers, and like YS’s right field has destroyed swings of players like Giambi and others.
Maybe he knows he can’t take the pressure of NY.
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Can you imagine if he were playing for the Yankees when he dropped that ball in the 9th inning of the NLDS that cost his team the game? He would have been run out of NY.
happy thanksgiving everyone!!
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Holliday may not be all that crazy. His natural swing and power is to right and right center field.
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All the more reason to come here.
It seems like a no brainer.
Like I said, maybe he can’t cut it here.
It’s still early in the game.
Can you imagine if he were playing for the Yankees when he dropped that ball in the 9th inning of the NLDS that cost his team the game? He would have been run out of NY.
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That was major pressure.
Maybe he just can’t handle it.
Better off staying away if that’s the case.
” Word is, it might actually snow in Sikeston, Missouri today. … ”
Another reason why “global warming” is a boatload of cr@p.
There IS NO such thing. Don’t buy it – unless you are the fool of fools.
Chad & Sam,
Happy Holidays!
In the short time you’ve been here…you’ve made us all feel like friends.
I look forward to another wonderful Yankee season…this time shared with you guys.
And let me know if you’d love to grab a drink and talk some yankees face-to-face.
RS
Why is it that if a player doesn’t want to play for the Yankees, it’s because “he knows that he can’t handle the pressure”. There’s no more pressure with the Yanks than there is in Boston or Philadelphia or other places. It’s a load of BS.
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Why is it that if a player doesn’t want to play for the Yankees, it’s because “he knows that he can’t handle the pressure”. There’s no more pressure with the Yanks than there is in Boston or Philadelphia or other places. It’s a load of BS.
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Of course there is. Those are your typical East coast fans who demand winning and what about the media?
“Why is it that if a player doesn’t want to play for the Yankees, it’s because “he knows that he can’t handle the pressure”. There’s no more pressure with the Yanks than there is in Boston or Philadelphia or other places. It’s a load of BS.”
I think there is more pressure in Boston and Philly because there are so many other things that interest people and divert the media in NY, that it reduces the monomaniacal focus on baseball that exists in other cities.
Ross
December 25th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Merry Christmas, Chad!
I hope that Santa brought you a laptop ( a netbook, even?)
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Chad won’t need his laptop down in the bootheel of MO. I’m not sure internet access exists down there. I swear every time my wife and I drive through there on the way down to Memphis, the only thing going on is Baptist radio programming on 75% of the stations. It may not be the buckle on the Bible Belt (I think Tulsa is), but it sure is close. Heck, Rush Limbaugh grew up in Cape Girardeau.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Chad. Really enjoyed your SWB blog.
NY is a baseball town, I don’t know about Philly, they love their Eagles.
Bost. is also a baseball town and their media is brutal.
Matt will probably go back to cushy St. Louie.
the various stories Ken Burns tells (particularly in the late 1800′s/early 1900) are really a highlight. The Fred Merkel/NY Giants incident at the Polo Grounds, etc. What have noticed from the documentary is, people were MEAN as helll back then
GB-
You’re brother was smart enough to take away the gas can too.
He knows quitting smoking is hard.
And apparently knows you very, very well.
Feel better.
Mick-
You know what they say about “If you can’t stand the heat …”
“Matt will probably go back to cushy St. Louie”
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anyone else find the gas-house-gang colorful? : )
How about Darin Erstad in LF?
MTU
December 25th, 2009 at 10:36 am
GB-
You’re brother was smart enough to take away the gas can too.
He knows quitting smoking is hard.
And apparently knows you very, very well.
Feel better.
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If I had only been a Boy Scout, I would have learned to rub two sticks together to start a fire.
vinny-b (NJ and Granderson – thank you Cashman!)
December 25th, 2009 at 10:35 am
the various stories Ken Burns tells (particularly in the late 1800’s/early 1900) are really a highlight. The Fred Merkel/NY Giants incident at the Polo Grounds, etc. What have noticed from the documentary is, people were MEAN as helll back then
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In a similar vein, I presume you’ve either read or at least heard of Lawrence Ritter’s “The Glory of Their Times” written in 1966. While the book is a baseball classic, I recently purchased a CD set of Ritter’s original interviews with the players from the early ’60′s. They are absolutely engrossing. Interviews include around a dozen players including Sam Crawford, Fred Snodgrass, Smokey Joe Wood, Hans Lobert, Goose Goslin, and numerous others.
“Gardner plays every day and Granderson platoons?!!??!”
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Granderson is not platooning. He is our CF’er
Dimaggio
Mantle
Williams
Granderson
MTU December 25th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Mick-
You know what they say about “If you can’t stand the heat …”
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I am starting to believe that.
GB-
Or you could have just used Flint.
“How about Darin Erstad in LF?”
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he is still in organized baseball?
unorganized, maybe fantasy.
Joe: do you know if this is available via amazon etc?
Mick-
The guy is a terrific athlete and has been a competitor his whole life.
I doubt he really is frightened of the big stage.
Guys like him, alpha males, usually live for it.
JMHO.
Chad (if you’re out there),
Did you grow up a Cardinal fan? I presume Holiday did as he grew up in Cardinal country (OK) although I know alot of Midwesterners (like my father) who were drawn to the Yankees by lure of the Mick and Murcer (both from OK).
I still think Cash is spreading rumors about Reed Johnson and the like to tweak Matty.
They are probably at a standstill.
As far as Holliday signing with the Yankees, there’s been no irrefutable proof that the Yanks have made him a better offer than others or even made one at all. One other thing….he’s going to want a contract that will make the high NY city and state taxes worth him signing.
vinny-b (NJ and Granderson – thank you Cashman!)
December 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Joe: do you know if this is available via amazon etc?
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Vinny:
I bought mine off Amazon for about $13. It’s still available. Very cool.
http://www.amazon.com/Glory-Th.....038;sr=8-2
mtu
I don’t know.
He dropped a big ball last year, was that a coincidence?
He should know that, surrounded by the talent here, he will not have to stand out as much, can just fit in.
trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS!
December 25th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Just a question – do people consider it unPC to say Merry Christmas? I said Happy Hanukkah during Hanukkah, which is now over. Or is it that Kwanza and other celebrations are also in the mix and that Happy Holidays covers it all?
Anyway, since today is Christmas for those who celebrate Christmas, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I will try to get a handle on the different holidays because I think it is important to honor each tradition. If I get some time maybe I can try to find out the dates for whatever holidays are upcoming, in case anyone is interested.
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Merry Christmas Trisha
Maybe this story will answer your question.
When I was in 9th grade, a girl in my class gave out Christmas Cards. And she gave one to every single person in the class but me. And I was really offended cause this was someone I actually spoke to. So I went up to her later and asked her why she didn’t give me a card cause I thought we were friends.
And she said the cards said “Merry Christmas” and she knew I didn’t celebrate that so she didn’t want to offend me.
So the moral of this story- its the thought and emotion behind the words that matter more than whether the person actually celebrates the holiday or not.
Mick-
Who really knows at this point.
The bottom line for me is if MH wants to be a Yankee he can be a Yankee.
If he doesn’t want to be then he can go elsewhere.
It’s up to him.
Right now there is still time.
NYY626
December 25th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Hey Guys
I need advice. It is acceptable to wear my new Pettitte World Series jersey all day or do you think I should wear something a little more Christmas appropriate?
Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates!
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Ummm- completely acceptable. If a 27th world championship attire is not considered “festive”, what is??? Snowflakes??? I think not……
Mick-
Stuff happens.
Remember what happened to Buckner.
That doesn’t prove to me that he can’t handle pressure.
It proves to me that he can take his eye off the ball once in while like so many others.
Remember Castillo’s famous play last year ?
It happens.
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 10:46 am
As far as Holliday signing with the Yankees, there’s been no irrefutable proof that the Yanks have made him a better offer than others or even made one at all.
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It is amazing that not one rumor has started. That is the definition of stealth. I can’t see how they haven’t spoken. Maybe he was told to bring back your best offer which is probably St Lou and which it looks like we won’t top or even meet. A game of chicken where he might want to come here but doesn’t want to leave anything on the table.
It proves to me that he can take his eye off the ball once in while like so many others.
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Both of those plays were harder than they looked plus there definitely was major pressure involved.
Even if Buckner makes the play where was the pitcher covering 1st?
With Boras representing Holliday, Bay and Damon where are all of the “mystery teams” that Boras usually has? Besides the Mets offer to Bay and the Cards offer to Holliday it seems that there are no other teams involved.
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 10:46 am
As far as Holliday signing with the Yankees, there’s been no irrefutable proof that the Yanks have made him a better offer than others or even made one at all.
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It is amazing that not one rumor has started. That is the definition of stealth. I can’t see how they haven’t spoken. Maybe he was told to bring back your best offer which is probably St Lou and which it looks like we won’t top or even meet. A game of chicken where he might want to come here but doesn’t want to leave anything on the table.
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If that were the case, then it makes the “maybe he knows that he can’t handle the pressure in NY” remarks all the more ridiculous.
Ummm- completely acceptable. If a 27th world championship attire is not considered “festive”, what is??? Snowflakes??? I think not……
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I have been wearing my Championship shirts, short sleeves underneath the long sleeves the past 2 months and haven’t seen much from anyone else.
I guess I’ll have to wait for the Stadium to see more.
If that were the case, then it makes the “maybe he knows that he can’t handle the pressure in NY” remarks all the more ridiculous.
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It’s all hypothetical at this point which is my point.
How do we know what to think, other than the obvious, when there are no clues.
Mick-
My take on it is that Boras still figures that time is on his side.
Right now that might be his only weapon.
He wants to get MH a 9 figure contact from somebody.
And he’s playin the game hoping that something will change to give him the cahnce for that to happen.
Sooner or later one of two things might happen :
Either he will get that offer ( which I doubt)
Or He/matt will relent and settle for the best that’s available.
It’s a waiting game for now.
Boras hopes he can stir the pot.
Let’s see.
As time goes by more and more teams positions on things become more and more fixed don’t they ?
Right now MH might represent a bargain price, and that may cause an unusal action on someone’s part.
That has some gravity to it.
JMPO.
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
December 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
With Boras representing Holliday, Bay and Damon where are all of the “mystery teams” that Boras usually has? Besides the Mets offer to Bay and the Cards offer to Holliday it seems that there are no other teams involved.
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It makes you wonder if Cashman might still be upset with the Twins and players from shopping his offers that he has told teams/agents/players that here’s the deal and it’s now or never. Go out and get your best offer and let me see it. No more shopping my offer. I’m sure that, especially with the economics as it is, that other teams may be doing the same.
Happy Holidays to all! My mom gave me the Sports Illustrated Yankees World Series Magazine for Christmas, so I’m pretty excited about that.
Everyone stay safe and happy!
It never ceases to amaze me at the overzealousness in which the “top” couple of FA’s are pursued with each year, often to the extent that they are given grossly exhorbiant long-term deals that many teams later regret. Too often, GM’s try to squeeze a player whose talent and production level into a contract that is three sizes to large for his girth.
Take last season for example. Without the Yankees and Braves glaring needs in the starting rotation, would Burnett and Lowe have received such deals? Will both teams ultimately regret the back end of those deals (the Braves seem to already)? Would the Cubs have given a gazillion dollars to a LF who can’t field and refuses to walk (see Soriano)? Would the ‘Stros have given a similarly large deal to a similar type LF (Carlos Lee)?
Dice-K? Gary Matthew Jr.? Chan Ho Park?
The point is, there are many red flags surrounding Holliday (massive home/road splits, likely defensive liability with age, 30 y/o now), but these are being glossed over by the desires of teams who have immediate corner OF needs who feel they must fill them at any cost.
MTU December 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Mick-
Stuff happens.
Remember what happened to Buckner.
That doesn’t prove to me that he can’t handle pressure.
It proves to me that he can take his eye off the ball once in while like so many others.
Remember Castillo’s famous play last year ?
It happens.
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All 3 plays you mention were under monumental pressure, yes even a regular season game, game on the line pressure.
That gets factored in.
“So the moral of this story- its the thought and emotion behind the words that matter more than whether the person actually celebrates the holiday or not”
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nice story, Erica
Joe (vogel): thank you. I will check it. By the way, my childhood friend’s last name was vogel
GB,
Didn’t Cashman do that when he signed Damon? I think I remember that he gave Boras an offer and a time limit to take it or leave it.
Mick-
Fortunately for the yankees they do not absolutely need to have MH at this point.
How much does he want to be a Yankee ?
Now.
If Boston somehow enters the fray ……. Huh ?
(not likely)
Merry Christmas to all! Thanks to the wonderful LoHud staff for a fabulous blog! I enjoy reading it everyday. Today I’m enjoying my children and my new Yankee gear that I just got. I also can’t wait to watch Yankee games on our new flat screen TV!
Merry Christmas and Happy holidays to all!
Fran, Holliday did not cost his team the game. Everyone assigns the blame to him, but Ryan Franklin is the one who blew it. He can’t get two outs before the Dodgers get, what was it, 3 runs?
Rich, the Yankees farm system was hurt by Phil and Joba graduating to the majors. I still don’t agree that this is now a bottom run farm system…..
“It makes you wonder if Cashman might still be upset with the Twins and players from shopping his offers that he has told teams/agents/players that here’s the deal and it’s now or never. Go out and get your best offer and let me see it. No more shopping my offer. I’m sure that, especially with the economics as it is, that other teams may be doing the same”
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yup. And unlike the other teams, expect Boras to let the Yankees receive preferential treatment. In other words, he will get back to them before signing a deal with another team. Boras knows what side his bread is buttered. Particularly in this state of economics
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
December 25th, 2009 at 11:08 am
GB,
Didn’t Cashman do that when he signed Damon? I think I remember that he gave Boras an offer and a time limit to take it or leave it.
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Not sure if it was Boras/Damon or not, but, I believe that he gave somebody a take it or leave it ultimatum a couple of years ago.
NYYFans was the Dodge City of the internet? Who was the Wyatt Earp? Bat Masterson?
Merry Christmas, Chad – the snow from last week’s blizzard is still on the ground; I wish I could send you some of it!
“NYYFans was the Dodge City of the internet? Who was the Wyatt Earp? Bat Masterson?”
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the owner of the site was/is a clone version of joseph stalin
Chinese and a movie for anyone else in here today?
vinny-b (NJ and Granderson – thank you Cashman!)
December 25th, 2009 at 11:13 am
“It makes you wonder if Cashman might still be upset with the Twins and players from shopping his offers that he has told teams/agents/players that here’s the deal and it’s now or never. Go out and get your best offer and let me see it. No more shopping my offer. I’m sure that, especially with the economics as it is, that other teams may be doing the same”
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yup. And unlike the other teams, expect Boras to let the Yankees receive preferential treatment. In other words, he will get back to them before signing a deal with another team. Boras knows what side his bread is buttered. Particularly in this state of economics
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Boras knows that more than any other teams, he needs NYY more than they need his players, to raise the salaries, whether the Yanks sign his players or not. Boras won’t screw that up.
Why are chinese retaurants the only ones open today?
There’s been no buzz because the Yankees haven’t made an offer. Everyone is just taking Lost-IN at his word? I seriously doubt the Yankees are interested in Holliday…..and I never believed the rumors that he wanted to play for the Yankees.
ESPN News is making me sick this morning!!! You would think it was the Red Sux and not the Yankees that just won the World Series!!!
Boras knows that more than any other teams, he needs NYY more than they need his players, to raise the salaries, whether the Yanks sign his players or not. Boras won’t screw that up.
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When there are only 2 teams involved it must put a cramp in his style.
“Why are chinese retaurants the only ones open today?”
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my place in wappingers isn’t. Don’t know about the others
Betsy,
Ryan Franklin absolutely has to shoulder blame for that Game 2 loss. But all that was shown on TV after was Holliday’s drop. He was the one that took the heat.
We still have snow on the ground in Queens too but it is mostly confined to lawns and parking spots.
vinny-b (NJ and Granderson – thank you Cashman!)
December 25th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Joe (vogel): thank you. I will check it. By the way, my childhood friend’s last name was vogel
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Was he too a short, stocky German-Irish catcher with a pugnacious personality?
By the way, Vogel translates into “bird” in German and is sometimes spelled Vogle or Fogel
Joe: lol. You were a catcher? kewl. No his name was jason. He lived in georgia
Vinny, I never had a run-in with the guy that runs the website, so I can’t speak to that.
GB, how are you doing?!
my place in wappingers isn’t. Don’t know about the others
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you must not live in a Jewish neighborhood.
mick,
Chinese and a movie for me today. The diners around here re-open at 9PM but that’s a little to late for dinner.
Well , at least I have a Knick game at noon to kick back to.
Chinese buffet to follow.
Early, to beat the crowd.
mick: not really. More or less protestant. Single male IBM employees (too many) and a population replete with families/soccer moms. The suburbs
dutchess county is beautiful, however. Overall even prefer it over Westchester
where do you get your Chinese, Betsy?
GB, Boras is in for a suprise if he thinks he’s going to use the Yankees now. Cashman won’t allow his team to be used to up players’ salaries. He’ll pursue a player that he wants, but if the player wants too much and he doesn’t deem the player worth it, he’ll move on. Cash always has alternatives – it’s never desperation to sign one player.
Betsy – high on pie
December 25th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Vinny, I never had a run-in with the guy that runs the website, so I can’t speak to that.
GB, how are you doing?!
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I’m doing fine, Betsy. Thank you for asking. Hope that you and your family are having a great holiday season.
GB, Have a great day despite the obstacles…Heal well and fast.
Fran, good point. The snow is all over the place, Fran – it’s going to take a long time to melt as there is an awful lot of it and it’s packed in.
Mick, we go generally to a local place called Kikku; however, my favorite place is Hunan Taste in Greenvale. I don’t absolutely love Chinese – I’m not sure if I’m going to have that tonight, Indian or something from our freezer. It’s supposed to rain tonight – I’m not sure I’m going to want to go out.
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Chinese and a movie for anyone else in here today?
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2pm showing of “Its Complicated”. Chinese to follow
Cashman won’t allow his team to be used to up players’ salaries. He’ll pursue a player that he wants, but if the player wants too much and he doesn’t deem the player worth it, he’ll move on. Cash always has alternatives – it’s never desperation to sign one player.
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He overpaid for Burnett.
2pm showing of “Its Complicated”. Chinese to follow
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Erica
Was thinking Up In THe Air but might hold off.
I will be at Chinese Buffer in farmingdale if anybody wants to join, will be wearing Yank Champios jersey.
Betsy – high on pie
December 25th, 2009 at 11:28 am
GB, Boras is in for a suprise if he thinks he’s going to use the Yankees now. Cashman won’t allow his team to be used to up players’ salaries. He’ll pursue a player that he wants, but if the player wants too much and he doesn’t deem the player worth it, he’ll move on. Cash always has alternatives – it’s never desperation to sign one player.
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That’s what vinny, Fran and I were alluding to. Cashman seems to have told GMs/agents and players to get their best offer and get back with him, that it was a take it or leave it. No shopping the Yankee deals.
Glad to hear it, GB!
43 days to Fla…then ST the next week.
mick-
Up in the Air got really good reviews. I had that on my list of movies I was willing to see. We get a group of 8+ family members that go. Agreeing on a movie is usually difficult. Sacrifices sometimes need to get made
Bronx Born
December 25th, 2009 at 11:29 am
GB, Have a great day despite the obstacles…Heal well and fast.
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Thank you Bronx. I appreciate the kind words. All is going well. Hope you and your family have a great holiday season.
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Cashman won’t allow his team to be used to up players’ salaries. He’ll pursue a player that he wants, but if the player wants too much and he doesn’t deem the player worth it, he’ll move on. Cash always has alternatives – it’s never desperation to sign one player.
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He overpaid for Burnett.
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Stipulated, but that was the exception rather than the rule over the past 4 seasons.
erica
have seen a boatload of movies this year. the last was Precious, before that Blind Side.
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
December 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
With Boras representing Holliday, Bay and Damon where are all of the “mystery teams” that Boras usually has?
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Fran, just a minor clarification. Boras does not represent Jason Bay. Joe Urbon is Bay’s agent.
I wish all my friends of that team a few hours south of Boston (said with tongue in cheek) a great holiday today.
Even GB7!
GB, that’s a good way to work it – that way, Cash is in control. People have underestimated him because of the payroll, but they are learning that that is mistake.
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Cashman won’t allow his team to be used to up players’ salaries. He’ll pursue a player that he wants, but if the player wants too much and he doesn’t deem the player worth it, he’ll move on. Cash always has alternatives – it’s never desperation to sign one player.
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He overpaid for Burnett.
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Yeah, by about 2 mil over 5 years. I’d say that he made up that difference in his first season.
to see. We get a group of 8+ family members that go. Agreeing on a movie is usually difficult. Sacrifices sometimes need to get made
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Do you take a vote or is a yay/nay thing?
same to you too, Ray. You represent your team well
Hi Ray – Merry Christmas to you and your family!
ray,
Thanks for the correction. That explains why Boras doesn’t have a mystery team for Bay!
Happy holidays.
There is no way they make that payroll.
They still need a Hairston type to fill the roster + a LF.
How many guys are actually signed?
ray (sox fan)
December 25th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
December 25th, 2009 at 10:56 am
With Boras representing Holliday, Bay and Damon where are all of the “mystery teams” that Boras usually has?
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Fran, just a minor clarification. Boras does not represent Jason Bay. Joe Urbon is Bay’s agent.
I wish all my friends of that team a few hours south of Boston (said with tongue in cheek) a great holiday today.
Even GB7!
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LMAO. Only because it’s Christmas, Ray…I’ll let that remark pass. Just be careful..”after all, tomorrow is another day”.
Hope you and the (sox fan) family are having a great Christmas, Ray. Best wishes to you and them. I hope that yaz can find a tree in the snow. Hopefully, he doesn’t use the outside water pump. He’ll be stuck there until spring.
Merry Christmas LoHuders…….I just made my way back from a very long High Mass….So, what’s this about the BoSox offereing Holiday a 16.5 million dollar contract ???? I’ve yet to read the papers……I still think my knees are shot from being an Altar Boy….Due to always getting into trouble as a lad, my punishment would be kneeling down and praying for forgiveness…..The floors are marble…..
Yeah, by about 2 mil over 5 years. I’d say that he made up that difference in his
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do you really think Burnett is a 16m pitcher? cmon
Merry Christmas everyone! I have a solution for LF! Orlando Hudson. Just kidding. But I think he would be perfect if he did actually play an OF position.
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Yeah, by about 2 mil over 5 years. I’d say that he made up that difference in his
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do you really think Burnett is a 16m pitcher? cmon
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$8-10 million
Pat M
December 25th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Merry Christmas LoHuders…….I just made my way back from a very long High Mass….So, what’s this about the BoSox offereing Holiday a 16.5 million dollar contract ???? I’ve yet to read the papers……I still think my knees are shot from being an Altar Boy….Due to always getting into trouble as a lad, my punishment would be kneeling down and praying for forgiveness…..The floors are marble…..
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Oh, Pat…..On Christmas day, and you lie about being an alter boy? Now, I could believe that you robbed the collection box and stole the wine….but, that’s as far as it goes.
I would quibble with NJ Steve’s math. Including Gardner’s fielding in his OPS would add to both components of OPS: On Base Average and Slugging.
NJ Steve assumed that Gardner’s fielding saves the equivalent of a single and a double every week for 25 weeks. Suppose he had 650 plate appearances and 600 ABs. The extra 75 total bases adds .125 to his Slugging Average, as NJ Steve pointed out. Also, the extra 50 hits adds .076 to his OB. So his OPS goes up by around .200.
I don’t know if Gardner makes 2 plays per week that another fielder would not have made. That may be high. However, I do believe that fielding is important. If Gardner and Granderson play regularly and if Hoffman, Cervelli and Pena are backups, the Yanks will be a better fielding team in 2010. I think that improvement will be significant. Cashman deserves credit for his focus on fielding.
Merry Christmas to all…
from Benny.
well 10 minutes to the Knicks…can’t wait to hear the sound of Jesus (Montero, that is) smacking that ball in Fla, what a sound if you haven’t heard it yet.
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did. NYY doesn’t win the AL and WS without him. Imagine having the less than average Derek Lowe for a mil less?
Ummm- completely acceptable. If a 27th world championship attire is not considered “festive”, what is??? Snowflakes??? I think not……
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Thanks Erica! I knew I could count on the lohud-ers for some logical reasoning.
Let me know how “its complicated” is. I’m dying to see it. Alec Baldwin cracks me up.
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did. NYY doesn’t win the AL and WS without him. Imagine having the less than average Derek Lowe for a mil less?
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I’m sure we could have found someone to go 13-9.
To all who celebrate it, Merry Christmas!!!
GB, The Mass was in Latin in those days before Edison discovered how to harness electricity……Merry Christmas my old pal, you feelin good ???
happy birthday chad and merry christmas
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did. NYY doesn’t win the AL and WS without him. Imagine having the less than average Derek Lowe for a mil less?
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I’m sure we could have found someone to go 13-9.
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He pitched in 9 games where he allowed 2 runs or less and took a loss or a no decision, and had 2 more in the post season. Yeah….he was such a bum.
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did
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Did they or was his price driven up by other factors?
Happy Holidays to all. What a a baseball year we just experienced. We will look back on 2009 as one of the best ever Yankee teams. 2010 looks promising. I prefer Marlon Byrd instead of Reed Johnson but so be it.
Yeah….he was such a bum.
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Not my words.
Pat M
December 25th, 2009 at 11:59 am
GB, The Mass was in Latin in those days before Edison discovered how to harness electricity……Merry Christmas my old pal, you feelin good ???
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doing fine, Pat. Thanks for asking. Hope you and the family have a great holiday season and a great year upcoming.
Merry Xmas Pat!
Belated Happy Hanukkah Betsy!
Happy Holidays Erica!
Lets Go Knicks!
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did
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Did they or was his price driven up by other factors?
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It’s not worth debating your dislike for Burnett. He’s A Yankee and I’m happy about it.
Yankees overpay for some players. Why is it such a big deal?
AJ is basically a .500 pitcher. He has some great starts and some bad ones. Yanks wanted him and signed him.
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As far as Gardner, don’t think Cashman will go with him as their full time left fielder. I expect him to trade or sign a left fielder, but not a Holliday or Bay.
GreenBeret7
December 25th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
mick
December 25th, 2009 at 11:56 am
GreenBeret7 December 25th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Whether you think Burnett deserved $16.5 mil or not, obviously, Cashman and the Yankees did. NYY doesn’t win the AL and WS without him. Imagine having the less than average Derek Lowe for a mil less?
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I’m sure we could have found someone to go 13-9.
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He pitched in 9 games where he allowed 2 runs or less and took a loss or a no decision, and had 2 more in the post season. Yeah….he was such a bum.
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It’s the back end of the Burnett contract that will likely be most regrettable. Here’s something mildly interesting to chew on.
During the 2008 season, Burnett’s fastball averaged 94.3 mph, ranking in the top 5 in the league. He was the ONLY pitcher on the wrong side of 30 y/o in the top 12. This tells me that he has hung onto his big heater longer than most pitchers. Up until this point in his career, his results have been checkered. Occasional brilliance interspersed with periods of wildness and inconsistency. My question is this: What kind of pitcher will Burnett be when he loses 2 mph off of his fastball. This is likely to happen during this 5 year contract (signed from age 32 thru 37). Some pitchers have adjusted: Seaver, Mussina (although it took him time), Perry, even Maddux (albeit he began with less of a heater). Does anyone really believe that A.J. will transition into more of a precision pitcher as he loses his top-notch stuff? If he doesn’t, $16.5 million per year is going to look less and less like a palatable deal.
package joba and Gardner & lets see what kind of LFer they can get for them
Bronx Born, thank you! Merry Christmas to you….Merry Christmas Pat M (the offer was apparently made before the Sox signed Lackey) and Benny!
….staying out of this discussion, lol
Rose
December 25th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Yankees overpay for some players. Why is it such a big deal?
AJ is basically a .500 pitcher. He has some great starts and some bad ones. Yanks wanted him and signed him.
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You can only afford to overpay only so many players before you become what the Mets have become (or Cubs). Even the Yankees have limits (albeit a bit higher than shall we say the Twins or Durham Bulls).
TODAY IS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enough with the “Happy Holidays” BS. MERRY CHRISTMAS.
Santa didn’t bring me Matt Holliday….I knew I should have been better this year…
Bronx Born…Thank You and Merry Christmas to you & yours aw well…..I read your piece at yoyr site, very well done…I urge the LoHuders to check it out….Betsy, thnks for the clarification on Matt….I thought something might have happened this morning……Then I realized Santa was here
Hope everyone is having a great Christmas.
It’s not unreasonable to question if AJ will be worth having at $ 16.5 M a year for four more seasons, but as far as I’m concerned he was a very important part of this team with his 207 innings.
He had three horrible starts at Fenway Park, a place where he historically pitched very well. Take those disasters out and you’re looking at a 13-7, 3.38 ERA for 30 starts. I expect him to post more wins and a lower ERA in 2010. If he’s not so good in 2012-13 I’ll deal with it then.
AJ helped bring in No. 27. To me that makes the contract worth it. Ditto CC and Tex. But No. 28 would be nice.
Yumm, tonight I’m going to try this Thai/Indian/Chinese place that sounds so delicious!
“Gardner plays every day and Granderson platoons?!!??!
Talk about getting a lump of coal in your stocking!”
Vinny B and 86w183, I don’t think you realize how bad Granderson is against lefties. Why in the world would you want to play him against lefties instead of Gardner? Gardner’s OPS was .781 against lefties last year and even if you took his first year in the bigs into account where he had an OPS of .250 in 24 AB’s, Gardner’s OPS combined is .626. Do you realize that Granderson’s OPS against lefties over the past 3 years is .570! FIVE SEVENTY! Why do people think he shouldn’t be platooned? Detroit fans know this and they also know that he is neutralized with a lefty coming out of the pen. Granderson is a GREAT player against righties, but he is a terrible hitter against lefties and Gardner is better than he is against lefties.
You start Granderson against all righties and you use him as a pinch hitter when a lefty is on the mound or a defensive replacement, but he has no business starting against a lefty.
Why isn’t this obvious?
Betsy,
Thai/Indian/Chinese-that sounds interesting. Is it a buffet?
Around here it is straight Chinese foe me.
As for LF, to me the only issue is they need to add a quality RH bat somewhere. The first eight hitters are set and that’s 3 LH (Grandy, Cano, NJ), 2 RH (DJ, Alex) and 3 SH (Tex, Swish, Jorge).
Not sure it’s a good idea to have a fourth full-time LH bat in the regular lineup. I like Byrd, but not at the three years @ $ 6 M that I’ve seen bandied about.
If they have that much to spend just get Melky back from the Braves.
Lackey has had a better career than Aj thus far but going forward I would rather have AJ with his contract than I would lackey with his. Lackeys elbow is a real concern and he has shown signs of decline where Ajs stuff is as good as ever.
Chinese restaurants open on Christmas day is only a myth, just like Santa and the Toothfairy, etc.
27 chinese restaurants in town here – all closed today.
86, I agree….well said. AJ doesn’t get enough credit for game 2 of the WS. He had a very bad slump in August which blew up his #s, but but up until then he had a 3.63 ERA, which is darn good. Early in the season, when everyone else was struggling, AJ stopped several losing streaks. He’s hardly the most consistent pitcher, but he’s a good pitcher and at times very good. He’s also a terrific guy – I was able to watch his interview with Brandon Steiner on You Tube and he just adores his teammates and his manager (as well as being a Yankees).
He was not thrilled with the year he had last year and I believe he’s going to come to camp with something to prove. If he can be better, great. If he’s just the same, well he eats innings and is still a good pitcher.
Pat M, you’re very welcome.
Fran, no it’s not…..Hicksville is a very intersting area. There is a large Indian community and, as such, there are a lot of Indian restaurants. This is actually not the only Indian/Chinese type restaurant in the area. I tried the other one awhile ago and loved it. I haven’t been back because the parking is a pain.
Fran, I stand corrected. I believe they do offer a buffet, but it is generally a sit-down restaurant.
NJ Steve —
Granderson was awful against lefties last year, but his OPS against LH pitching in 2008 was a more than acceptable .739. That’s the Granderson I’m looking for in 2010.
Gardner has never given me any indication that he’s an every day player and his career OPS against both lefties and righties is sub .700.
David in Cal, I used 600 as my number as my assumption was that he would not play against some tough lefties and he would be batting last.
I also just added the bases which would really just add to teh slugging so the numbers are correct. As for 2 plays a week, that was over Melky and I am sure that is more than reasonable as he gets to a lot of balls that Melky can’t and last year I did an unofficial count and the number was actually higher and they usually were extra base hits. Now I haven’t watched nearly as much of Granderson so I lessened it to about 6 bases a month, which is about 3 bases every 2 weeks.
Betsy,
I am not that far from Hicksville. I’ll have to get the name from you and try it one day. Not today though because I don’t feel like dealing with traffic.
new thread
86w183
December 25th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
NJ Steve —
Granderson was awful against lefties last year, but his OPS against LH pitching in 2008 was a more than acceptable .739. That’s the Granderson I’m looking for in 2010.
Gardner has never given me any indication that he’s an every day player and his career OPS against both lefties and righties is sub .700.
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In a CAREER of 674 games, Granderson’s OPS against LHP is .614. As a Yankee fan, I may wish him to be able to hit LHP’s but that don’t make it true. Conversely, Gardner may not ever effectively hit LHP’s (or RHP’s for that matter), but the jury is still out. As opposed to Granderson who has just under 2900 career PA’s, Gardner has just 425 PA’s, the equivilant of 2/3 of ONE season. If player determinations were made on most players on such a small sample size, Don Mattingly would still be beating the bushes along with Al Kaline, Greg Maddux, and Tom Glavine. Not everybody starts their career like Dwight Gooden and Albert Pujols.
I know this about Gardner: he has tremendous speed, he’s a grinder who doesn’t take plays off, and he has had robust success throughout the minor league professional ranks. He is the MLB version of Tim Dwight or Wes Welker. This is a critical season in his career although there remains a strong possibility that he will not be given a real shot at an everyday job.
First of all .739 is not really acceptable unless you field like Gardner or better, but why would you take his best year against lefties out of the last 3 years and say that is how you would expect him to hit? Granderson’s last 3 year total OPS against lefties is .570. How much better is really a reasonable number to look at? If you say .700 that is a huge stretch, but let’s even say that. he is still not someone who should be playing with a .700 OPS against lefties. I mean everyone is saying Gardner can’t hit and in 248 AB’s his combined OPS was .724 and it was better when he got to play more regularly. One other note is that the book on Gardner was it took him a little while to adjust at each level because of his different type of swing, but once he did he was very productive. He made adjustments last year that helped a lot and when you take his SB’s into account his OPS improves to about .790 BEFORE taking his defense into account.
If the Yankees think they can make Granderson a .700 hitter against lefties, that is a stretch, but I hope they can. Either way, if they think he should be starting against lefties over Gardner, I think they are simply wrong. I also think not enough people on this board realize how bad Granderson is against lefties.
For perspective, everyone knew Molina couldn’t hit well at all. For his 3 years with the Yankees his OPS was .585…now compare that to Granderson against lefties
You don’t platoon an all star because you think some kid who has never proven himself superior in any area can see what he can do.
Fine, Granderson is .614 against LHP and Gardner is .627. You think THAT justifies platooning when Granderson has done his as an every day player while Gardner has seen just spot duty? That’s crazy.
Your fantasy world of Gardner robbing two hits a week is simply of your own making. Gardner as a platoon LF with a decent RH hitter with some power is fine. Garnder platooning with Curtis Granderson is just plain nuts.
“Santa didn’t bring me Matt Holliday….I knew I should have been better this year…”
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blake: chin up. Santa did bring us Granderson, Pettitte, Vazquez, and Nick Johnson
it not like you didn’t get yo bb-gun
“Trisha, it’s Christmas Day. Perhaps we all should refrain from calling Dustin Pedroia names.”
GB, one of your greatest traits is the ability to be funny, no matter the circumstances. I am so hoping that you are well on the road to recovery. I am so hoping it.
Pat M – saw some NY posts last night and that you lived in Mt. Vernon. My mom grew up in Tuckahoe.
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Well no matter what else we say today, one thing we will NOT be saying today is: HAPPY HOLLIDAY!!!!
By the way, Kwanzaa begins tomorrow. If anyone is interested in how Kwanzaa got started, what it represents, etc., here is a link I found!
http://www.history.com/content/kwanzaa
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Quite by accident last night (very late last night) I came upon the Mormon Tabernacle’s 2009 Christmas Concert. Thankfully I recorded it because I was sure I would fall asleep. A shout out goes to Yogins, a Yankee fan who in 1998 or so told me I should invest in TIVO. It took me until this year to have a DVR installed. What an idiot I was to wait this long!!!
Anyway, for anyone who may have seen the concert, it is pretty much a bromide for anyone who wants to feel imbued with the real meaning of the Christmas season but who has lost it in the commercial hustle and bustle (guilty as charged.) I am now getting ready to go to the family Christmas dinner and have the concert on in the background. What absolutely beautiful music that group makes. I’m sure it will be repeated. It’s on the PBS channel.
Great day all. Love to Betsy and Fran for the wonderful Christmas wishes. Definitely my girls!!!
XOX
Wonderful day everyone, whether it is with Chinese or roast beef!!!
“Vinny B and 86w183, I don’t think you realize how bad Granderson is against lefties”
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you’re leaving out Granderson will be playing in a left-friendly home stadium for the first time in his career, will have Kevin Long as a hitting coach, is a model person and by all accounts a very hard worker, and he will be in best lineup in baseball with protection from all sides. Lot of variables. I will take the variables
Thank you Pat, I thought you would enjoy it!
try a package of joba and Gardner & lets see what kind of LFer they can get for them
Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to you Chad & Sam. Thanks for the great work you do!!
Chad, keep your eye open at Lambert’s.. maybe one of the pitchers of those “Throwed Rolls” is a future prospect.
http://www.throwedrolls.com/images/bg02.jpg
(FYI- Memphis-based Yankees fan here.)