Entire coaching staff returning
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 06, 2010 
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Joe Girardi’s entire coaching staff will be returning for next season. This is hardly a surprise after the Yankees won the World Series, and especially after Brian Cashman announced that the entire coaching staff would be offered jobs. Here’s the press release from the Yankees.
The New York Yankees announced today Joe Girardi’s entire coaching staff will return for the 2010 season, with Dave Eiland (pitching coach), Mike Harkey (bullpen coach), Mick Kelleher (first base coach), Kevin Long (hitting coach), Tony Pena (bench coach) and Rob Thomson (third base coach) all returning to their same roles as last year.
Eiland, 43, will enter his third season as Yankees pitching coach and eighth year coaching in the Yankees organization.
Harkey, 43, will begin his third season as Yankees bullpen coach.
Kelleher, 62, will return for his second year as the Yankees’ first base and fifth year as a coach or instructor in the Yankees organization.
Long, 43, will return for his fourth season as Yankees hitting coach and seventh year in the Yankees organization.
Pena, 52, will return for his fifth season on the Yankees Major League coaching staff and second as bench coach.
Thomson, 46, will enter his 21st season in the Yankees organization and his second as third base coach.
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On a minor note, the Yankees are also bringing back the entire Triple-A staff: manager Dave Miley – who got my vote as International League Manager of the Year — along with hitting coach Butch Wynegar, pitching coach Scott Aldred, infield coach Aaron Ledesma, athletic trainer Darren London and strength and conditioning coach Lee Tressell.
This will be the Yankees fourth season in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, and it will be the first time they’ve had the same pitching coach in back-to-back years.
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The Yankees also announced the Low-A Charleston staff. Torre Tyson will return for his fourth season as manager, and pitching coach Jeff Ware will be back for his second season with the RiverDogs. Carlos Mendoza, who spent a long time as a player in the Yankees minor league system, retired last season and will serve as Charleston’s first-base coach.
Tyson, by the way, played college ball at the University of Missouri. That’s not especially important, but I think it’s a good thing to know.
nice to have confirmation
Great news, thanks Chad. We really have a terrific staff – Kelleher, Thompson, Pena, Long. I’d love to keep them together for as long as possible…….and, as I said in the previous thread, for Pena to work with Montero and Romine in ST
Very cool. Glad to have them all back
How much do these coaches routinely make on a yearly basis – can’t be much more than the MLB minimum for players, no?
http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....depth.html
What made the 2009 off season such a huge opportunity for the yankees wasn’t only how much net money was coming off the books. It was the fact that they had so much unproductive money coming off the books.
In that sense the opportunity was created by their own bad decision making before hand.
Having 50M of unproductive money coming off the books is very different than having 30M of productive money + 20M of unproductive money off the books.
The yankees had money coming off the books that had been inefficiently spent (e.g. Giambi) to pure waste (pavano).
As such, not only did they not want those players back, the were losing very little value in not bringing them back. The loss really didn’t hurt much in any significant way given the prices they were paying.
Lee is a better pitcher than Beckett. But if the Sox sign Lee and lose Beckett then it’s a marginal gain and nothing like the huge boost CC was when he was replacing part of the money paid to Pavano.
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I agree with all of this. But my original point wasnt about the Sox getting better. It was about how crazy the off season will be. There will be big time players out there and there will be big time teams with money to spend.
“Front page of the DSM Register this morning. An east-side (where mufflers are optional) DSM man goes outside this morning at 4:30 AM to retrieve a pack of smokes from his car. Problem: He is wearing no shoes/socks nor a coat. He locks himself out of his house so he decides to wait on his porch for his roommate to show up and let them both in. The Wait: 5 hours. The Result: His body temperature drops to 86 degrees and severe frostbite body-wide”
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relayed the story you shared to my father who worked in Cedar Rapids. Sad
the NY winter to this point have been cold. However, not much snow upstate yet. Dutchess county did not get the same snowstorm which manhattan received (before xmas)
props on the Hawkeyes
By the way, my Badgers finished ok too
here’s a bried interview with Cash:
http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....depth.html
lol, Chad. Pete was a “Springsteen” dropper.
You’re a “Missouri” dropper.
Oops, Betsy beat me to it.
Phil the Thrill
January 6th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I think Mauer will have his new Twins deal by some time in ST.
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Do you really think he’s going to bypass his best shot at FA when he knows that there are large-revenue teams in dire need of catching?
You may be right, but this would be a huge concession on his part.
Between Ortiz and Lowell, the Sox have a tad over $25MM coming off the books in 2011. They will almost certainly be able to put that money to better use.
Vinny:
Badgers looked great (even though I’ve always like Miami). Madison is alot like Iowa City. Alot of progressives, smallish, a number of Phish fans(?!).
Selfishly I am thrilled they are all coming back.
Joe V.
He wants to be a Twin. The Twins know they have to keep him and will take the necessary steps.
Did a quick skim and didn’t see this so apologies if it was already posted…
Boras talks Damon….
http://bombersbeat.mlblogs.com.....tions.html
Yes, I did beat you to it, CC! Hah!
I don’t know what Cash’s comments about Gardner mean. If we believe him, then Gardner is our LF. He also said recently that he wants to rebuild OF depth…get cracking Cash as we have none to speak of.
Phil the Thrill
January 6th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Joe V.
He wants to be a Twin. The Twins know they have to keep him and will take the necessary steps.
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I think you’re probably right, but if Minnesota’s top offer is $18M/year for 5-6 years and Boston comes in at $23M/year for 7 years loyalty may only go so far. I shouldn’t try to assume what makes others happy, but I’m guessing the Twins situation is probably it and maybe worth a severe discount.
Remember, the bench and the pen are always works in progress. Each will be vastly different at the end of year than they will be at the start.
I’m not saying this to diminish Joe Mauer in any way because I think he’s great but if I’m a small market team like the Twins then I would like to see at least part of another season of him to make sure his power is for real before writing him a blank check. I believe it is and that the hitter we saw last year is close to what he will be from now on but if its not then a huge contract could cripple the Twins for years. If it turns out that he really a high Avg. 15-20 HR guy then he’s still very valuable because he’s a catcher but what about when he can’t catch anymore. I think he will re-sign with the Twins for a big contract but they need to be very sure he will be the guy we saw last year for several more years or it could screw them up for a long time.
Not only did Betsy beat CC, but she didn’t misspell “fried”!
“Between Ortiz and Lowell, the Sox have a tad over $25MM coming off the books in 2011. They will almost certainly be able to put that money to better use.”
Lugo, Wakefield, Varitek and Wagner represent another $16M or so.
That’s $41M. Vmart and Beckett are off the books at another $17M, but Boston will want to retain them, which to me eats up about $15M of that $41M (I’d assume roughly $32M combined to re-up both – $18M for Beckett, $14M for Martinez). I don’t think they are in for two big splashes, but I do think they’re in for one (over and above retaining Becektt and Martinez).
vin
January 6th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
“A young white sox pitcher threw at Mantle’s legs once and a team mate of the pitcher, Early Wynn, who had no problems with hitting batters for digging in at the plate, threatened to deck the pitcher if it happened again while they were in the dugout.”
Yeah, I had heard stories like that. It’s interesting how widely appreciated and respected he was throughout the game. Hell, even a good guy like Pujols has been hit almost 70 times in his relatively short career.
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It’s like Randy said. There were very few batters that stood on top of the plate and dove to the outside of the plate. Mantle had a pretty conventional stance and really wasn’t a pull hitter. His bat speed was unbelievable, and so was his strength. I saw a couple of brawls with the Yanks and White sox from back then and 3 or 4 of the Sox players would surround Mantle to keep him out of the fights because he might get hurt. Pitchers just refused to throw at him. They had no problems hitting Bauer, Maris or Pepitone, though.
Rocky Colavito talked about a brawl that Cleveland and NY had in the late 1950s. He said it was going pretty good until Mantle got into it and shoved one player and knocked three down. He said that was the end of the fight. I’m sure it was an exaggeration, but, Colavito swore that it happened.
In many ways its more advantageous for a team with limited financial means to not have any players who clearly great, the best at their positions. It’s easier to financially manage a roster of Hideki Matsui quality players than of 1 or 2 Albert Pujols or Alex Rodriguez types. Simply, its like insurance: dissmeninate the risk over the entire roster instead of in one player.
The Red Sox are in a real predictament.
Once you pin your hopes on free agency, (spin aside, that’s exactly what they are prepping to do after the 2010 season), that’s a slippery slope.
Yes, it worked for the Yankees last year with CC, AJ and Tex.
Prior to that, the last time the Yankees needed to fill holes via free agency, they went the Carl Pavano and Jared Wright route. Clearly, those results were poor.
Its always chancy when looking to free agency to fill all your major needs.
As CB pointed out, last off-season, the Yankees filled glaring weaknesses and openings the Yankees. Each one of those guys represented substantial improvement over the players they were replacing.
If the Red Sox give Cliff Lee 20 million+, he’s a marginal improvement over Beckett. It also raises their payroll number substantially.
If Joe Mauer re-signs with the Twins (the most likely scenario), they have to make a decision on Victor Martinez or they are in the market for a catcher.
That puts them in a real bind because its going to cost them at least 15 million to keep him and he isn’t a good defensive catcher.
Their payroll is over 170 million right now and their team isn’t as good as its been in the past.
Its going to be interesting to see how high they will raise their payroll in 2011.
Make no mistake, nobody is taking a discount in the free agent class of 2010 to go to Boston.
Especially with the Yankees out there ready to write big checks to fill their OF and pitching needs.
Great new book out called “Pefect” by Lew Paper. It’s about Larsen’s perfect game and every player in it. It’s loaded with great stories and almost no stats for the allergic.
RE: Alex and Mickey being HBP
Wonder if the total number of hit batsmen, not just Mickey, was much lower before expansion and the changes in bullpen use watered down the number of pitchers who know where a ball is going when it leaves their hand.
In the old days, players would sometimes let their bats slip if they thought you were throwing at them, or bunt and makes you cover so they could spike you.
If Tampa makes no effort to resign Crawford, I’d be rather leery of him. He’s not really a $15-17 mil a year player and/or there are some big leg issues with him.
Just as I didn’t envision a scenario in which CC wasn’t going to be a Yankee, I don’t envision a scenario (barring injury of course) that doesn’t have Cliff Lee signing with the Yankees as a free agent.
He and CC are tight. During the World Series, guys kept telling him what a great clubhouse exists in NY.
The ballpark plays perfectly to his style of pitching.
He knows the team is going to be competitive every year.
I really believe the Yankees will pay whatever it takes to sign him.
I also think Josh Beckett will go to the Rangers if Nolan Ryan is a major part of the new ownership group.
I say that because this will probably be John Farrell’s last year as pitching coach in Boston. He’s a FA at the end of 2010 and he will most likely get a managerial gig.
He and Beckett are tight.
Also, Beckett isn’t “settling” for Lackey money to stay in Boston. He is a better pitcher than John Lackey and if Lackey gets 5/82+ million, Beckett is getting more, whether its from Boston or another team.
I think one of the main reasons people are getting hit more now is because it simply doesn’t hurt as bad when you have a big guard on your arm. Hitters stand right on the plate and dare pitchers to hit them because they know their elbow is protected..
I read the link about Boras’s discussion on Sirius about Damon.
I can’t imagine who’s going to sign him.
Atlanta? Seattle?
Could Johnny be left out in the cold?
If there’s no interest, you have to wonder how much he’ll lower his demands.
Regarding HBP’s, I think the theories of Charley Lau and Walt Hriniak (whom I patterned my own stance after), probably increased the frequency of HBP as batters are taught to step towards the ball more.
pat
January 6th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Alex and Mickey being HBP
Wonder if the total number of hit batsmen, not just Mickey, was much lower before expansion and the changes in bullpen use watered down the number of pitchers who know where a ball is going when it leaves their hand.
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Without looking, I’d say there were more in the NL back then, mainly because the umpires let the players take care of things, instead of trying to read intent. I’d bet that since 1973, the nit batters in the aL are pretty close, because pitchers don’t bat. You have more charges of the mound, though.
GB,
The Rays have been talking to Crawford since the end of the season about a new deal.
They are trying to sign him. The question is, will he sign or test free agency.
He told the Rays he would take a bit of a hometown discount.
Presently, the two sides differ on how large a hometown discount he should take.
Most Entertaining Batter to Watch Get HBP: Don Baylor
I used to love watching him simply rotate his trunk on inside pitches and allow the ball to bounce off of his massive back. I always felt sorry for the ball.
The Yankees gave Johnny a chance to return. They made him a fair offer and Scott felt he could do better.
Now, Johnny is this year’s Bobby Abreu.
Scott did a great job positioning the Cardinals to overpay for Matt Holliday.
Unless he can find a team willing to do the same for Johnny, he will regret not taking the Yankees offer because, I don’t believe another one (even a one year deal) is forthcoming.
SJ44
January 6th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
GB,
The Rays have been talking to Crawford since the end of the season about a new deal.
They are trying to sign him. The question is, will he sign or test free agency.
He told the Rays he would take a bit of a hometown discount.
Presently, the two sides differ on how large a hometown discount he should take.
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Thanks, SJ. I never thought they’d let him go without a fight. That was one reason that I thought they may go for Holliday, because Crawford is such an unpredictable chance.
As for my comment about Upton…would you take a crack at him, given his baggage?
That’s my point, SJ – there are no chairs left for Damon.
Who would even sign him to a lesser deal?
He can’t throw, is below-average on defense.
You can rule out NL teams, and most AL teams that already have DHs.
If $6 million does it, would the Yanks re-enter the picture, and also then carry either Gardner or Hoffman as backup?
glad to see Torre will be back for another year as manager.
oh wait, that’s Torre Tyson.
GB,
A lot of people in baseball think BJ is biding his time for free agency to join his brother Justin in Arizona.
Prior to obtaining Granderson, BJ was a guy I thought could use a change of scenery. I also thought going to a veteran laden team like the Yankees would help his focus.
Now that the Yankees acquired Granderson (a great move, IMO), I would pass on BJ.
I would go after Crawford though if he hits free agency.
I think his best years could be ahead of him in the right situation. I like his game and the field turf he has been playing on the past few years in Tampa has really helped his legs.
I also think Kevin Long would really help him in ways Steve Henderson (the Rays former hitting coach) couldn’t.
Thannks again, SJ. I’d like to see Upton playing in that big left field at YS or put him in center and ZGranderson in left. Like you, I think being around guys like Sabathia, Jeter, Rodriguez, teixeira and Posada would do wonders. For one thing, there would be no reason for him to be THE BIG DOG, and those guys wouldn’t allow him to play like a big dog when he felt like it.
i watched an interviw with don baylor about getting hit by pitches
he refused to move out of the way
SJ…I think you are right on about Cliff Lee. I would add that I don’t believe Lee is interested in settling in with Seatle for the long haul and will Seattle have the money to compete given what they are doing this off season? I feel that this might be the end for Andy, so we will need another stong lefty to replace and someone for the future. Lee makes too much sense. The concern..how do you budget Lee given we ahve to deal in a new upgraded salary for Jeter, and what will the market be for Mariano to stay in NY. Posada not as much concern. Mauer will be with the Twins for the long run in my view. Lee has to be the focus.
SJ, Lee is going to demand $20 million a year for 5/6 years; you think the Yankees are going to do that? He’s not a baby anymore, either; do we want another huge contract on our hands as he ages? These 2 years had better not be flukes for any team investing in him. One good thing about signing Lee would be that we could definitely have Phil and Joba in the rotation (well, IMO, Phil needs to be there by 2011).
i would like to see us sign werth & lee next year
forget crawford
maybe we trade for another pitcher also
jj & lee together with cc & burnett would be insane
if i am cashman i would try to get jj at the deadline first if possible
then target lee next year
SJ, I completely agree on Damon. Then again, it appears the Yankees are happy with Gardner in LF…..
SJ
“I would go after Crawford though if he hits free agency.
I think his best years could be ahead of him in the right situation. I like his game and the field turf he has been playing on the past few years in Tampa has really helped his legs.”
Why would the turf help his legs? Is it b/c it would make his legs stronger? Or is turf better constucted these days? Just wondering b/c most of the time you hear how playing on turf is harmful to players (Dawson/Vlad etc)
I don’t think Jeter and Mariano’s new deal will affect the Yankees budget in any way for a couple of reasons.
First, they are legacy Yankees. They are going to sign and their deals won’t preclude the Yankees doing business in free agency in 2010.
If they continue to perform at a high level, they also aren’t taking big pay cuts.
How do you reconcile the budget with this siutation? Simple, you raise it for signing your own guys.
The Yankees have a history of doing this.
They did it a few years ago with Arod and Posada. Did it with Bernie years ago to keep him from going to Boston.
In other words, Jeter and Rivera’s new contracts won’t affect which free agents the Yankees target and sign after next season.
Unless Lee values the last dollar over everything, I’d bet he goes back to the NL next year.
We avoided arb with Mitre.
The turf is light years better than what the astroturf and that crap in Montreal was, but, there is still a concrete bed under it.
I for one think Johnny is coming back to the Yankees.
Who else would have him?
This whole thing is just like Jason Varitek with the Sox a few years ago.
Something like 7-8 x 1 with a team option should get it done in this market.
Regarding the ARod & Mantle HBPs; It’s probably because The Mick didn’t have to face Pedro!
Field turf, the turf in Tampa as well as other stadiums, is easier on the legs than some of the grass fields (like Fenway) out there today.
Its not like the concrete guys like Dawson played on in Montreal, which destroyed his knees.
Betsy,
I don’t think the Yankees have any qualms paying Cliff Lee that kind of coin because he’s that good of a pitcher.
The Yankees aren’t “cheap”. They just aren’t going to pay guys certain sums of money they don’t believe is worth that kind of money.
Cliff Lee is one of those guys (like CC for example) who is worth the big investment and he will get it next year from somebody. I just believe that “somebody” is the Yankees.
Phil
How did the Yankees avoid arb with Mitre? By DFA, I hope?
Phil the Thrill
January 6th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
We avoided arb with Mitre.
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looks like the division is ours now
If NYY signed Mitre for just $850K, now is the time to move him to the NL as part of a trade.
No they came to terms with him, unfortunately.
Pitcher Sergio Mitre avoids salary arbitration, agreeing to $850,000 deal with the Yankees. Contract includes some performance incentives.
https://twitter.com/jcrasnick
**Eh, Mitre is lousy; I guess he’s rotation depth at AAA.
Heyman on Damon from MLBTR
Quote:
Heyman believes the Yankees would not go beyond one year and $6MM to re-sign Johnny Damon. On MLB Home Plate Boras said Damon “would just have to move forward,” while not faulting the Yankees for sticking to a budget. Heyman suggests four alternatives for Damon: the Giants, Mariners, Braves, and Angels. The Angels would be a tough fit barring a Juan Rivera trade, as their outfield and DH spots are full. The problem with the Braves is that they’re approaching their payroll limit.
“If NYY signed Mitre for just $850K, now is the time to move him to the NL as part of a trade.”
2 words: Josh Willingham
since the Nats are desperate for pitching.
SJ, I agree about the Yankees not shelling out the big bucks to players they don’t deem worth it……I just hope after 2 years (only) that Lee is worth that $$$. He and AJ are both from Arkansas and are friendly; perhaps AJ can recruit him as well, lol. Lee signing would mean the end for Andy as a Yankee, but I think that was happening anyway.
NYYROC
January 6th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Regarding the ARod & Mantle HBPs; It’s probably because The Mick didn’t have to face Pedro!
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Just like Teixeira in the post season, pitchers have know reason to fear hitting them because nothing gets done. Pitchers will hit them and draw a warning and they’ve done their job. It keeps NY pitchers from doing anything. Martinez should that he’s a coward, again. AL parks only.
Thanks GB & SJ
Some of our high schools and colleges up here have turf for soccer/football/LAX b/c of our long winters. They have a base of tiny rubber pellets and feel very comfortable to walk on…not sure if it is close to what MLB uses.
“Lee signing would mean the end for Andy as a Yankee, but I think that was happening anyway.”
A lot can happen between now and then.
I couldn’t believe how often the Phillies were hitting ARod and Tex durng the series.
I must say. I am shocked at the deal Holliday got for 7 years, 120 million as a 30 year old. Throughout the whole process, the Yankees stuck to their number and refused to be used as a price driver. I would’ve loved to have Holliday but would’ve hated that pricetag. I like this precedent.
“Pitcher Sergio Mitre avoids salary arbitration, agreeing to $850,000 deal with the Yankees. Contract includes some performance incentives.”
He’s either traded in late March or is given his walking papers for 45 days of that 850K.
Ed – campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin)
January 6th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
“If NYY signed Mitre for just $850K, now is the time to move him to the NL as part of a trade.”
2 words: Josh Willingham
since the Nats are desperate for pitching.
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Would you really want to see Willingham trying to play left field in YS?
Let’s breakdown Heyman’s….I mean Boras’, options:
1. Giants. How is that a fit for either party? Big ballpark which would expose Johnny’s weaknesses both offensively and defensively.
2. Mariners. They, even more than the vaunted Red Sox, place a value on defense more than anybody in baseball. Not a fit.
3. The Angels. Not a fit. They just signed Matsui and their OF is already crowded with over 30 players.
4. Braves. Probably the only other logical landing place. The issue there will be value and cost.
The Yankees, as well as a lot of well run teams, believe players have a difficult time returning to a club after a massive paycut.
Teams have done studies on this and Andy Pettitte (who did it last year) was an exception to the rule. Then again, the way Andy handles his business at this point in his career (making it clear he is only interested in playing for the Yankees) is not how most players do it.
For Johnny to come back, he would have to agree to a one year deal for 6 million and perhaps another million in incentives.
More importantly, he would have to convince Cashman he won’t sulk about the deal and could live with it.
Knowing Johnny, that’s would be a tough sell because I’m sure he wouldn’t be happy coming back to the Yankees at such a low number.
That’s probably why Scott is saying Johnny has to move on.
Who knows, perhaps he changes his mind and that conversation with Cashman actually takes place.
I just think its unlikely at this point.
I’m really a bit concerned that the immense pleasure that I derive from watching MLB network will now be jeopardized as they brought aboard Peter “Andrew Jackson” Gammons. Is there no God?
Craw, The only way I can see Andy returning is if Joba blows up this year and the Yanks decide to put him in the pen for 2011. I don’t see anyway Phil doesn’t get a crack at the rotation in 2011.
SJ,
I can see the Giants giving him a 7M for one year with a vesting option for the 2nd year. Sabean has made similar bad moves.
upstate kate
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Thanks GB & SJ
Some of our high schools and colleges up here have turf for soccer/football/LAX b/c of our long winters. They have a base of tiny rubber pellets and feel very comfortable to walk on…not sure if it is close to what MLB uses.
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The old turf was about putting a 1 inch foam pad down over a conrete or tile floor and putting cheap carpet over the top. After a while, it kills your feet and back. The Tampa turf is much better, but, it still has that concrete floor.
I think with Lee in the background for 2011 is yet another reason we didn’t see a big signing for left field. We won with Chad Curtis we can win with Brett Gradner..no disrespect to Chad who had some big moments in the playoffs and series in the late 90′s.
Is Cliff Lee a friend of CC’s from their time in Cleveland?
“Craw, The only way I can see Andy returning is if Joba blows up this year and the Yanks decide to put him in the pen for 2011. I don’t see anyway Phil doesn’t get a crack at the rotation in 2011.”
I don’t assume anything with Joba nor Phil. They have to prove to me that they’re ML starting pichers. As far as Pettitte, for all we know, he might have enough next year which is why he’s doing the one year contracts because he has to evaluate his situation (family & health) after each season.
Why wouldn’t Andy come back? Javy is probably just a one year deal for the Yankees and his money is basically Pettitte’s money.
If Andy has a good year and wants to come back, the Yankees won’t say no.
We avoided arb with Mitre.
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I wonder if he can play left field for us?
“Why wouldn’t Andy come back? Javy is probably just a one year deal for the Yankees and his money is basically Pettitte’s money.
If Andy has a good year and wants to come back, the Yankees won’t say no.”
The following scenario is still possible until I see what both Joba and Hughes show me in 2010. However, I agree Pettitte is still a possibility, unless Cashman wants to go with a younger and cheaper alternative beyond Joba or Hughes.
CC
AJ
Lee
Joba
Hughes
With a rotation headed by CC, AJ, and Lee, asking Joba and Hughes both to start isn’t asking too much.
CC
AJ
Lee
Andy
Joba/Hughes with other in BP?
Also, where is JD going to go? There’s no crying need for him anywhere else.
Would Cashman pay a bit extra to ensure Johnny doesn’t sulk?
At least the MLB panel believes that Jim Kaat (#5) was one of the Prime 9 not yet in the HOF players. Not sure that I agree with Dick Allen, but #1 Ron Santo not in should be an embarrassment as should Tommy John not being in.
how much do you think lee is going to ask for next year?
5/100? Cliff will be 32 next off season. They cannot give him CC money, but you know he will be looking for something close to it. Maybe 3/60 with an option? (like halladay did with the phillies)?
“CC
AJ
Lee
Andy
Joba/Hughes with other in BP?”
IMO, it’s in the Yankees best interest that both Joba and Hughes prove to the Yankees that they are consistent ML starting pitchers. Both of them have greater value to the Yankees as starting pitchers.
Can we dump Igawa already and use the loose change for some more candy in the clubhouse? Whats the point of having him?
GreenBeret7
January 6th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
At least the MLB panel believes that Jim Kaat (#5) was one of the Prime 9 not yet in the HOF players. Not sure that I agree with Dick Allen, but #1 Ron Santo not in should be an embarrassment as should Tommy John not being in.
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GB:
I think you’re absolutely right regarding Kaat, John, and Santo (I would also include Blyleven).
New HOFers: Andre Dawson
The Hawk. One flippin’ inductee. No Blyleven. Take to the streets, a call to arms.
only 1 hofer wow
They need to purge the Hall voters roll. No Robbie Alomar? No Barry Larkin?
Too many guys who either have no clue or have their own agenda voting for the HOF.
A horrible job by the writers.
Blyleven was #3.
I haven’t listened to talk radio in a while, and unfortunately I heard a snippet this morning.
Actually Mets fan host (his dad’s a die hard Yankee fan, is that unusual for a L.I. family?) and Angels fan producer were having a little debate.
Talking about when Jeter inevitably retires who will take his place as the leader who keeps everyone in their place (like check the egos at the door kind of thing). Angels fan said Teixeira, but the host said, “nah. he’s a mercenary.”
So question for the day. Who on the team or in the system has the potential to be the next Yankee captain/clubhouse leader?
Unbelievable. Blyleven was at 74.2% of the votes.
5 voters turned in blank ballots. Blyleven needed 5 votes to get in.
Teixeira will be the next captain of the Yankees IMO.
they clearly need to change the decision process to a stats based system. if you do this and this and this, you are in.
“5/100? Cliff will be 32 next off season. They cannot give him CC money, but you know he will be looking for something close to it. Maybe 3/60 with an option? (like halladay did with the phillies)?”
Supopsedly, one of the reasons the Phillies did the Halladay deal is because they were convinced Lee’s demands were not going to be as “reasonable”.
New HOFers: Andre Dawson
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gb7,
I think the voters must have been reading our discussion of the best center fielders ever. I wouldnt be surprised if in Andres speach he says “And last but not least i would like to give a shout out to GB7 for hyping me up. Without him, this doesnt happen. Just for that im sending you a hot nurse to take over on me.”
Supopsedly, one of the reasons the Phillies did the Halladay deal is because they were convinced Lee’s demands were not going to be as “reasonable”.
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I agree, but will anyone pay more than 20 m / year for a pitcher other than the yankees?
the only problem with tex as the next captain is that jeter will still be here in 5 years most likely. tex has 7 left. i think the captain after jeter is someone we havent even thought about yet.
the only problem with tex as the next captain is that jeter will still be here in 5 years most likely. tex has 7 left. i think the captain after jeter is someone we havent even thought about yet.
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MONSTERO!
S.o.S.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
New HOFers: Andre Dawson
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gb7,
I think the voters must have been reading our discussion of the best center fielders ever. I wouldnt be surprised if in Andres speach he says “And last but not least i would like to give a shout out to GB7 for hyping me up. Without him, this doesnt happen. Just for that im sending you a hot nurse to take over on me.”
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It didn’t help me get in Kaat, John, Santo and Blyleven, though. The 5 blank ballots are just about disgusting.
GB:
How do you feel about this crap when writers refuse to vote for a player on their first time on the ballot as this is supposedly reserved for “the great ones” (obviously you can tell where I stand)? There is no precedence or rule dictating this.
Didn’t realize Lee was going to be 32 when he hits FA next year. He’s such a stud though, but won’t king felix be available that year potentially? I don’t want to give lee more than a 4 year deal at age 32.
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January 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
So question for the day. Who on the team or in the system has the potential to be the next Yankee captain/clubhouse leader?
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Teixeira. I’ve thought that since the Yankees signed him.
Isnt the 3rd highest saves leader still not in as well? Lee? If its not stats that they look at, then what the hell else is there? Percentage of dirt on a uniform(I know there is an abreviation someone made here regarding this). That would make Ewok in on his first try once he retires from Boston.
Has a pitcher ever been the captain of a team? I would vote for C.C. if Jeter decided to hang em up sooner.
Still cant believe Holliday got 7 YEARS!! What were they thinking? No one was even close to that. The over bidders that being the Mets were already out of it. Can you say albatross?
In spite of all your hoping JOBA will not blow up this year. Some fans even predict a break out year. We’ll see.
If Jeter becomes a “minimal” player in the next 5 years, will he still remain the Captain. Who makes the selection?
Rob Thomson is the best 3rd Basecoach I have ever seen!
We are so lucky he´s back!
Go Yankees
I guarantee there will be at least 100 times that somebody on this board will post Rob Thompson rather than his real name of Thomson.
Why change what’s working? Good moves by the Yanks here.