Your daily Damon dialogue
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 15, 2010 
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Maybe it’s not quite a daily occurrence, but there is certainly no free agent who has sparked more Yankees discussion this winter than Johnny Damon.
Hideki Matsui signed with the Angels, and that sparked a solid week of conversation (and still generates the occasional impassioned comment). There was some prolonged excitement about the possibility of Ben Sheets or Justin Duchscherer coming to New York. Matt Holliday was a rather lengthy pipedream. Xavier Nady’s name still pops up now and then. Jose Molina might as well be playing professional badminton for all the talk he’s generated.
Then there’s Damon, the one player in the bunch who Brian Cashman has all but said the Yankees are not interested in bringing back.
But … you never know, and fans aren’t the only ones who still see Damon-back-to-the-Bronx as a possibility. There are plenty of writers and broadcasters who are writing and saying the same thing.
For now, the latest team connected to Damon is Detroit. Now that the Tigers have signed Jose Valverde to solidify the ninth inning, they are said to be shifting their focus to the lineup. With Damon, Carlos Guillen and Magglio Ordonez, the Tigers could create a solid DH/OF rotation among some veterans.
Of course, the Braves are also still closely linked to Damon. Atlanta has enough outfielders to fill the lineup, but adding Damon would give them Damon in left, Nate McLouth in center and Matt Diaz in right. That would leave Melky Cabrera as a strong fourth outfielder, Eric Hinske as a four-corners utility man and give prospect Jason Heyward some time in Triple-A (where he has just 24 at-bats in his career, most of them in last year’s International League playoffs).
The Yankees other outfield options haven’t changed much. Brett Gardner remains the front-runner for left field, while the free agent market still offers Nady, Reed Johnson, Randy Winn, Marcus Thames, Jerry Hairston Jr. and plenty of others.
The yankees can win with gardner as the 9 hitter, if it turns out someone gets hurt and we need another OF, there will be plenty available for trade before the deadline. OF is by far the easiest position to trade for.
Damon playing for a small contract wouldn’t be good for the Yanks or his motivation. Plus he throws like a girl and cost the Yankees runs this year because of that. We don’t need him.
the Yankees don’t need Damon but for the right price he makes them better.
Yankees signed Josh Johnson
Well at the very least they paid for the Marlins to be able to sign Josh Johnson.
I find it amusing that the same week MLB tells the Marlins that they have to start spending money – they find the money to give Josh Johnson 40 mil. It’s a great signing for Florida, but goes to show that teams like the Marlins will only spend if MLB forces them to rather than just handing them millions of Revenue Sharing dollars.
I’m sure now though the Marlins will look to make up the difference somewhere else which brings me to this question. Do you think that the Yankees would have any interest in Dan Uggla. Is he capable of playing LF?
Another question – would you rather see the Yankees sign Carl Crawford next winter to play LF or wait a year and sign Carlos Beltran to do it instead? Beltran would be 35 at that point.
I am officially jumping on the Conor Jackson bandwagon in LF. Now that Johnny Damon asked me last night to help him out with a 2 year offer worth 16 million to go anywhere (yes he has priced himself out of the Yankee plans).
PS – I really don’t understand why people point up to Me when they do something good (yes you KRod and a handful of others). I only follow the Yankees, so I guess you can say that God is a Yankee fan.
I’d rather sign 29 year old Crawford than 35 year old Beltran even though Beltran was a much better player in his prime.
“Is he capable of playing LF?”
Doubtful.
Uggla in the outfield would be Uggly..
Blake –
Can’t argue with that logic at all. Plus Beltran has bad knees so I don’t think any team would want to invest too much in him. Just a thought.
Patrick –
Fair enough. Ideally I would love to see the Yankees make a deal for Cody Ross of the Marlins but I don’t think that Florida has any financial reason to deal him.
Vincent
January 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Damon playing for a small contract wouldn’t be good for the Yanks or his motivation. Plus he throws like a girl and cost the Yankees runs this year because of that. We don’t need him.
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Kids say the darnest things. And adults just spout ridiculous things.
When was the last time, or any time, that Damon wasn’t motivated to play the best he could?
“I am officially jumping on the Conor Jackson bandwagon in LF”
Part of the LaRoche signing was moving Jackson to left (instead of G. Parra- who at 22 could use another year of development time)and enhance their offense. Not saying they wouldn’t trade him, but I doubt they’d trade him cheaply. They’ve got a pretty good young catcher in Montero, so I wonder what it is the Yankees would have to part with to make such a deal.
Erin
January 15th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 11:16 am
When does the pinch hitting series start on LoHud???
The news has been so slow, that I am really looking forward to it
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Do you have your essay on your pretend relationship with Johnny Damon ready?
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I goofed. I had a plan for an essay on my pretend relationship with Johnny Damon, but I never submitted it to Chad and missed the deadline.
However, if there is enough interested from the good people of LoHud, I would be persuaded to write a “pretend essay” on my pretend relationship and post it in the comments section
Vincent
January 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Damon playing for a small contract wouldn’t be good for the Yanks or his motivation. Plus he throws like a girl and cost the Yankees runs this year because of that. We don’t need him.
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You are so right!!!!!
Cause a guy playing in a one year deal would have no motivation to try to sign a better or longer deal next year
Then there’s Damon, the one player in the bunch who Brian Cashman has all but said the Yankees are not interested in bringing back.
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Its just Cashman being sly!
i think Damons at the right price is still a really good fit for the yankees. gardner can come off the bench to run or for defencive pruposes late in games. he can also spare damon or the other 2 OF some games when necessary, so hopefully he can get enough ABs over the course of the year to continue his growth as a player. Nick Johnson has had some injuries in the past so giving him a day off here and there will be good too, just like matsui last year.
if Hairston or Nady will cost us 2-3 mil each why not give damon a 1 year 6 mil offer?
I don’t think Damon would be a problem if he took a paycut. It would be in his best interest to play well and not cause trouble in order to get a better deal next year. Plus Damon has always been a good teammate from everything I’ve heard.
It might would be a little bit of an issue at first but all that talk is greatly overstated IMO.
Getting Connor Jackson would probably take a package of Gardner and either Melancon/Robertson or McAllister
The Yanks are better off giving Gardner 450-500abs minimum and see what he can do. His defense and stolen base potential make him playable and left and a potential weapon in the lineup.
If he can hit .280-.290/.360+obp and score 90runs and steal 40 bases in 500abs his trade value will be greatly increased.Quite a few teams and gms around theleague are really intrigued with him off of last years production.
Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 11:39 am
However, if there is enough interested from the good people of LoHud, I would be persuaded to write a “pretend essay” on my pretend relationship and post it in the comments section
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I would be very interested in reading your pretend essay.
so Andy Pettitte didn’t play well on his small one year contract…and Bobby Abreu didn’t play well on his small one year contract…oh wait…they both were exceptionally good last year, and got contracts reflecting that this year.
I wish the Yankees would add a RH hitting outfielder to the major league roster so we can move on from the Damon talk.
Johnny had some good years with the Yankees that ended with a WS win. He played out his contract and chose to move on.
They offered him 2 years at 7mil per to be the DH and 4th OF and he didn’t take it.
At this point in time he does not make sence to the Yankees.
The DH and #2 hole in the lineup have been filled with Nick Johnson.
There is about a 1% chance the Yankees are going to bring Damon back as the everyday LF and part time DH. They didn’t see him as an every day LF back in December so why would that change? and they have lots of guys that will need a day here and there at DH.
The bottom line is that Johnnie had his chance to come back before NJ was signed and he didn’t.
Of the FAs on the market, the only three that I can see who provide a RH bat and could play LF in YS are Johnson, Nady, and Winn. And even they come with question marks: Johnson’s back, Nady’s elbow, Winn’s age-related decline.
And if the decision is put off, it may be easy to get a bat at the deadline but it won’t be easy to get someone who can play LF in the Stadium and contribute to the lineup.
Chip
January 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Getting Connor Jackson would probably take a package of Gardner and either Melancon/Robertson or McAllister
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Son you are wise beyond your years. If i had a second son I would have called him Chip.
Frank, the article at RAB was suggesting Gaudin as a possible chip for Jackson due to the fact that they need another starter and it suggested that they have 7 guys on their 40 manroster that could play LF.
“Getting Connor Jackson would probably take a package of Gardner and either Melancon/Robertson or McAllister”
Doubt they’d have much interest in Gardner. Parra is going to be an everyday MLB player….soon. And probably a better one than Gardner will be. Wasn’t quite ready last year, but didn’t totally embarass himself either. I think it would take more like McAllister and Melancon/Robertson.
So the Tigers are talking to Boras about Damon.
Here’s another opportunity for a team to stand firm against Boras, with no market for his client. Let’s see if they too drink the Boras koolaid (like the Cardinals did), and bid against themselves.
They traded Granderson (a salary dump,as speculated at the time,) to go after a 36 yr old OF?
Erica-
Your pretend essay should be part of the pinch hitter series, do it!
Damon’s not coming back to the Yankees. There are four main reasons:
1. The Yankees have a #2 hitter in Nick Johnson
2. The Yankees have a better defensive LF with Brett Gardner
3. As Jack Curry said, it’s easier for a player to take a paycut from another team than to take the paycut and go back to the team he was with.
4. The Yankees just don’t need him
I don’t think the Dbacks need OFers. Perhaps Gaudin + Melancon.
I wish the Yankees would add a RH hitting outfielder to the major league roster so we can move on from the Damon talk.
Agreed – But Brian’s in no rush because there are so many options left out there (Hairston, Johnson, Thames, Nady, Gomes) and no one of them is all that much better than the others.
Think JD would sign for 1 year…$6.5M with incentives?
Bobby sure loved climbing the wall, when he played the Yankees didn’t he? He was motivated against the Yankees no doubt about it!
I think we take a flyer on Nady. I think we can afford this gamble. A proven right hand hitter who makes contact and has some pop. Take a one year deal, perhaps a vesting option of some kind with incentives. Might be a good platoon with either gardner , swisher, and the DH spot.
Blake:
Can’t imagine the D’backs would want someone well into his arb years in such a trade. Jackson had some sort of strength zapping disease that ruined his ’09, but he was a pretty decent hitter at age 24 & 25 (.830 ish OPS, 110 OPS+). I think they like him and would probably ask for more than he’s worth.
Chip, I don’t think any of those reasons trump the one reason to bring him back if the price is right…he can still hit.
If its a one year deal then there really isn’t much risk. NJ could get on base just as well hitting 7th as he could hitting 2nd.
Think JD would sign for 1 year…$6.5M with incentives?
Yes but the Yankees won’t offer it.
Bobby sure loved climbing the wall, when he played the Yankees didn’t he? He was motivated against the Yankees no doubt about it!
Bobby was motivated all season long against everyone, it was a contract year for him and he didn’t want to have to take another below market deal.
champ809
January 15th, 2010 at 11:43 am
The Yanks are better off giving Gardner 450-500abs minimum and see what he can do. His defense and stolen base potential make him playable and left and a potential weapon in the lineup.
If he can hit .280-.290/.360+obp and score 90runs and steal 40 bases in 500abs his trade value will be greatly increased.Quite a few teams and gms around theleague are really intrigued with him off of last years production.
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If Gardner puts up those kind of numbers, he’ll be in the Yankees OF again next year and beyond…
If he just plays as well as he did last year before he got hurt, the Yankees will be vary happy to run him out there for 400-500ABs…
I think we can believe Cash on this one when he says they are looking for a RH hitting outfielder to come off the bench.
Frank, he had Valley fever which apparently he’s is all better from..the Dbacks have been known to make a few dumb trades before and they need a starter. I’d at least call and see of I’m cash.
Chip, I don’t think any of those reasons trump the one reason to bring him back if the price is right…he can still hit.
Yeah but Blake, the Yankees don’t consider Damon a full time LF anymore. They were looking at him for that rotating LF/DH role. That’s why the team waited so long before finalizing the Johnson deal; with Nick on the roster Damon would have to play LF everyday and I think the way the team looks at it, their lineup is just as good as it was last year with Nick batting second and they’re better defensively with Brett in LF.
I hope Long can help Gardy with his hitting. He needs to bring something else to the table, like getting on base to utilize his speed.
When Damon gets signed on another team, those who just like looking at him, INSTEAD OF HIS WEAK ARM, come back to earth. His offense is off set by his lack of defense, face it.
Chip, I just think they knew there would be no market for Damon and they didn’t want him for two years. Therefore they have waited around to see how far his price will fall..if it falls into their comfort zone then I think they will sign him, if not they won’t.
“Is he capable of playing LF?”
If you have to ask, the answer is invariably, “No.”
Now don’t go getting all serious on me – but how about this scenario:
Yankees sign Miguel Tejada to play LF and Nomar to be a back up infielder.
The four guys who a decade ago were considered the four best short stops all on one team.
If Cashman wanted to go with Johnson or Winn, wouldn’t he have acted on them? It makes me wonder what or who he is waiting for. He may simply be wanting to get the best possible deal with these players and hope the price drops and save $.5M. It could also be he feels the trade market will produce someone of value. I just hope that he isn’t satisfied with what he has. Yes, if Gardner could hit .280 and have an OPS of .360, he would be of value. I just don’t believe that will happen. I don’t think many major league teams do either.
I can’t wait for the will Damon come back talk to cease!
January 15th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
When Damon gets signed on another team, those who just like looking at him, INSTEAD OF HIS WEAK ARM, come back to earth. His offense is off set by his lack of defense, face it.
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Are you trying to say the Yankees and Johnny Damon are PARTING WAYS
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Buddy Biancalana
January 15th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Erica-
Your pretend essay should be part of the pinch hitter series, do it!
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I will try to throw together a pretend essay over the weekend!
I definitely believe Cashman when he says he wants a righty off the bench who can start some games against left handers and provide some insurance for Gardner who is unproven as a regular everyday player.
It’s Nady but there’s no way Boras gets serious about Nady before locating Damon. He wants teams interesetd in Damon to think they have to contend with all these ghost Yankees offers that the Yanks supposedly put on the table early in the offseason.
Something tells me the Yankees are loving sticking it to Boras. Damon just happens to be the client that has enough limitations to stand firm against Boras.
Cashman is being held up by Boras on Nady.
It’s annoying.
Gardner will be worth 3 WAR next year. Guarantee. If we get a platoon partner type like Reed Johnson, then fine that’s great. But there is no need for Johnny Damon, and no room for his salary. We’re all but maxed out right now.
We don’t even know if Nady will be able to play the OF again.
“Gardner will be worth 3 WAR next year. Guarantee”
What’s the guarantee worth?
Byrnes can be had for the minimum. What do we have to lose.
Here are a few guys I think the Yankees might bring in on minor league contracts with invites to spring training – not saying all of these guys – but some of them:
C – Kevin Cash, Paul Bako, Michael Barrett (they already signed Mike Rivera to a minor league deal)
P – Shawn Hill, Rich Hill (one time big time prospect with the Cubs), Dan Giese, Casey Fossum, Noah Lowery, Seth McLung, Cha-Seung Baek, BJ Ryan, Jorge Sosa
OF/IF – Jonny Gomes, Miguel Cairo, Jeremy Reed, Corey Sullivan, Marcus Thames, Chad Tracy
The Yankees picked a fine offseason to set a precedent on their budgetary discretion. Many agents and GM’s felt the Yankees were lying in the weeds for big name free agents like Lackey and Holliday. What the Yankees did essentially in not signing any huge contracts and by reducing payroll is to convince the rest of the league that they have limits. When the richest team in MLB sets limits, it forces the market to behave more fairly whereas in the past GM’s and agents looked to tax George’s pocketbook. The NYY were a landfill for salary dumps and veteran free agents with big names and diminishing skills. The Yanks are in a perfect position now to negotiate with Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford and possibly Huston Street.
Rich in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
We don’t even know if Nady will be able to play the OF again.
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That’s not hard to find out.
Pete how in the world would you know if the Yankees are maxed out? Get out of here
If we rule out Damon then i would love Nady back assuming he is healthy. It was also mentioned that if Gardner hits .280 he will be of value. i think it is a long shot for him to hit that well, but if he hits around .260 he will still be of value because of his speed.
“That’s not hard to find out.”
It would require signing him and putting him on the field, because no medical expert can really tell you how he will hold up until he actually has to start throwing with regularity.
I think its naïve to guarantee Gardner will be a 3 WAR player next year. He might end up being but he also might not he able to hit a lick after teams get good scouting reports on him.
Cardinals felt the need to batting back the poster boy of Steroids for a batting coach.
Yankees have Kevin Long who is busy working this offseason, Gardner will be better watch!
Giese just had ligament replacement in late June and Fossum was more possum the last time NYYs had him.
There’s also no reason to bring in 3 of the worst catchers since Jake Gibbs and Jesse Gonder.
Forget the rest. You’ve been sniffing cow chips for too long.
Rich in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
“That’s not hard to find out.”
It would require signing him and putting him on the field, because no medical expert can really tell you how he will hold up until he actually has to start throwing with regularity.
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Good thing he’d be coming off the bench and not starting.
” It was also mentioned that if Gardner hits .280 he will be of value. i think it is a long shot for him to hit that well, but if he hits around .260 he will still be of value because of his speed.”
It’s not about his AVG, as much as it’s about his OBP. His value would flow from getting on base (at least .350 OBP) stealing bases, hitting with a little SLG (at least .400), and his defense, where he would have far more value in CF than LF.
“Good thing he’d be coming off the bench and not starting.”
If he’s healthy, I think he would be the RH hitting part of a platoon.
Rich in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
“Good thing he’d be coming off the bench and not starting.”
If he’s healthy, I think he would be the RH hitting part of a platoon.
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Yeah, if his elbow holds up, then he would definitely be rewarded with more playing time.
“We don’t even know if Nady will be able to play the OF again.”
Why wouldn’t he with a new tendon in his elbow?
I would like to open up the fload gates for the Rocco in left field again. He could come cheap and split time with gardner. If it wasnt obviously for his health. He would patrol it all by himself.
If not him, what the heck has happened to Ankeil(i know hes a lefty)? Could he be had for practically nothing and if he doesnt pan out, it not a big loss to dump him and find someone else?
It’s a ligament, not a tendon.
“It’s a ligament, not a tendon.”
Whatever!
“Why wouldn’t he with a new tendon in his elbow?”
There isn’t a 100% success rate. Don’t you think that doubts about whether his elbow will hold up are at least partially the reason that he hasn’t signed yet?
Another reason why Nady makes sense is that Nick Johnson is unlikely to remain healthy at DH all year.
So Nady could be a valuable asset off the bench in PH situations vs. situational lefties, platoon in LF against lefties and DH some games. He can also backup 1b and RF.
Besides Nady’s arm. How can we be so sure his bat hasnt or isnt going to decline? He has missed a whole year. Can we afford to have him rehab up in the majors for a few months till he figures it out? I would pass.
“There isn’t a 100% success rate. Don’t you think that doubts about whether his elbow will hold up are at least partially the reason that he hasn’t signed yet?”
No, I think he’s not signed is because of Boras and that they’re still asking for too much money.
“Besides Nady’s arm. How can we be so sure his bat hasnt or isnt going to decline? He has missed a whole year. Can we afford to have him rehab up in the majors for a few months till he figures it out? I would pass.”
You want to pass on Nady, but give Rocco a chance. The latter is really a question mark and his bat has definitely regressed.
Bret the Hitman
January 15th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
The Yankees picked a fine offseason to set a precedent on their budgetary discretion. Many agents and GM’s felt the Yankees were lying in the weeds for big name free agents like Lackey and Holliday. What the Yankees did essentially in not signing any huge contracts and by reducing payroll is to convince the rest of the league that they have limits. When the richest team in MLB sets limits, it forces the market to behave more fairly whereas in the past GM’s and agents looked to tax George’s pocketbook. The NYY were a landfill for salary dumps and veteran free agents with big names and diminishing skills. The Yanks are in a perfect position now to negotiate with Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford and possibly Huston Street.
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Good Post Bret.
Add to the fact the Yankees just won it all and have a new stadium, they have to be high on the list for any player that did not grown up a Red Sox fan.
Cash, Hal, and Joe did a great job last year and everything fell into place.
The Yankees are set up for another great run…
Wow through text messages along indiviual Americans sent 8M to Hait. Top thread on Huffington post today.
Nady is a skilled hitter in his prime. His swing shouldn’t be too hard to replicate. He’ll need to work on his timing but he’ll be able to recognize pitches the same and eventually regain his bat speed. The elbow ligament probably doesn’t affect bat speed at all. It affects throwing.
“No, I think he’s not signed is because of Boras and that they’re still asking for too much money.”
He made $6,550,000 last season. Is he asking for more? If not, and he’s fully recovered, why should he get the same amount?
I still say the Yankees will be players for Mauer next season. If he’s available, he’s far more valuable than Lee, Street, or Crawford. The Yankees should always spend for truly great players, and Mauer is that.
Edit: why SHOULDN’T he get the same amount?
The only way I see the Yankees signing Nady is to a low base with lots of insentives. I could see him rehabbing in the minors for the first month or 2 of the season. He is a big risk; he had his arm fixed in what June?
If Nady is healthy then he’s the best option but my guess is that it will be Hairston.
“If Nady is healthy then he’s the best option but my guess is that it will be Hairston.”
Hairston would be the worst option.
“He made $6,550,000 last season. Is he asking for more? If not, and he’s fully recovered, why should he get the same amount?”
Don’t know if he’s asking for more, but the market for outfielders is depressed unless you’re an elite bat like Holliday or Bay.
I rather sign Reed Johnson, but it’s a guess to what Cashman is really up to except we know he wants the sign ??? player as the lowest possible cost.
blake,
Uggla in LF might get fuggla.
I think the Yankees would have safeguards in any potential contract with Nady.
Your Opinion Rich…
January 15th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
“If Nady is healthy then he’s the best option but my guess is that it will be Hairston.”
Hairston would be the worst option.
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I just looked it up, Nady got his elbow fix in July. I would doubt he’s getting a major league contract for my than the min with insentives…
CG is aledged to pick the offensive slack caused by the loss of Sui. Signing Damon would certainly make us better than without signing him. At the righ price year to year it seems a no brainer. We are not as good offensively without Damon. CG, Nj isn’t bad, but an addition of JD would be sick.
Joel Sherman reported this week that Hal turned down a trade for Cameron last season because he didn’t want to add a to the payroll. So if the Yankees really only have $2m to spend, I wouldn’t sign anyone, but would instead hold on to the money to cover an unexpected contingency.
“I just looked it up, Nady got his elbow fix in July. I would doubt he’s getting a major league contract for my than the min with insentives…”
You’re right,there is a definite risk at this point. A mL deal would cover that risk.
Could “didn’t want to add to the payroll” be code for “he strikes out too much” or something else the Yankees don’t like?
“Add to the fact the Yankees just won it all and have a new stadium, they have to be high on the list for any player that did not grown up a Red Sox fan.”
Let’s hope that doesnt mean Phil Hughes bolts.
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Giese just had ligament replacement in late June and Fossum was more possum the last time NYYs had him.
There’s also no reason to bring in 3 of the worst catchers since Jake Gibbs and Jesse Gonder.
Forget the rest. You’ve been sniffing cow chips for too long.
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You’re such a tool sometimes.
See if you can follow the bouncing ball – the guys who are willing and available to sign minor league deals are obviously flawed. Either they have subpar track records in the majors or are coming off of injury and won’t be able to contribute right away. Teams bring them in for depth and to see if maybe someone sticks out. You’re not looking at a minor league free agent to come in and make or break the season but if you bring in a guy like – as an example – BJ Ryan, and he’s effective in spring training then you stick him at AAA in case you need another arm at some point during the season.
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Are you referring to my post?
Cash reportedly had the deal made and it was strictly a money issue.
If strikes are the problem, why are Swisher and Granderson on the team?
Rich,
Why did he make the deal in the first place if money was the issue?
Didn’t something else happen at the time? Hinske?
NFL predictions
Vikings over Cowboys- Want the boys but the Vikings are not being looked at and the Cowboys are being way over hyped.
Chargers over Jets- Too many weapons. Sanchez is due for his normal 3 int day.
Saints over Cards- It will obviously be a shoot out but in the end, its whoever has the ball last. Picking Saints and also they are due for a win.
Colts over Ravens- They had their best game of the year last week. Dont think they can replicate it and the Colts have a chip on their shoulders. BLOW OUT!
All home teams.
Oh, you mean money was the sticky issue. Like he couldn’t get the Brewers to cover enough salary?
SoS,
Off the cuff predictions:
Cowboys
Jets
Cardinals
Ravens
Are those all road teams? Would that be a first if it happened?
I think the Yankees should sign a RH power hitting OF like Markus Thames that has experience DH’n if NJ goes down.
They don’t need a great defender because you just replace him late in the games. I don’t thing you get a guy that would fill in the OF every day if someone goes on the DL, that’s why you have guys in AAA playing everyday ready to be called up.
I vote no to Reed Johnson. I want someone with more power.
Vincent provides the best reason for resigning Damon to play left field. Very few established major leaguers are able to throw “like a girl.” The world is changing, and the game of baseball must change with it. Besides, the arm of a woman would give the Yankees a decided edge over their opponents, all of whom insist on filling left field with male-armed relics from the previous era. As Rosie the Riveter reminds us, “We can do it!”
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No, Cash has said that he needs Hal’s approval to go over budget, and sometimes Hal denies him permission to do that. When he presented him with a deal that he had for Cameron last season, Hal wasn’t willing to add to the payroll, at least according to Sherman.
Thames is awful in the OF.
“It’s not about his AVG, as much as it’s about his OBP. His value would flow from getting on base (at least .350 OBP) stealing bases, hitting with a little SLG (at least .400), and his defense, where he would have far more value in CF than LF.
I still don’t get this logic. If the premise is he’s a much better CF than LF defensively, okay, but if he plays CF, the guy slated slated for CF will play LF.
Gardner’s value to the Yankees doesn’t change offensively depending to where he and Granderson happen to be standing in defensive half-innings.
Braves not in on Damon unless it’s in the $1-2M range.
mel,
Why am i not surprised that you went opposite of what i had?
I believe that it happened with in the last 10 years. Cant recall which teams or year. Wouldnt begin to know how to find that out.
Why the delay? The Yanks want to sign a low-cost righty outfielder. There are several out there who fit the bill. So, why haven’t they chosen the one they want and signed him? Are they waiting in hopes of saving a couple of hundred thousand dollars? Are they waiting for Damon’s price to drop? Are they negotiating a trade? Is the entire front office vacationing in Puerto Vallarta during the cold snap?
I think the Yankees should sign a RH power hitting OF like Markus Thames that has experience DH’n if NJ goes down.
They don’t need a great defender because you just replace him late in the games. I don’t thing you get a guy that would fill in the OF every day if someone goes on the DL, that’s why you have guys in AAA playing everyday ready to be called up.
I vote no to Reed Johnson. I want someone with more power.
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Patrick – I don’t disagree, but rather than Marcus Thames I would vote for Fernando Tatis.
The thing we need is a guy who has power and experience coming off the bench. We’ve seen with guys like Josh Phelps, Andy Phillips and Shelley Duncan that some guys can’t produce in a bench role because they need to get regular at bats to be in a rythem. Tatis has experience coming off the bench, he can back up in all four corners and DH and if the Yankees pinch hit with him, they can stick Hoffmann in the OF the next inning as a defensive replacement. The only places that Tatis can’t really play are CF, SS, 2b – and let’s face it, he’s not going to be asked to pinch hit for Jeter, Robbie or Granderson – and if the Yankees did need to sit Granderson for a day they could slide Gardner over to CF and deal with Tatis for a day in the OF or play Hoffmann out there (if they didn’t think the kid could play they wouldn’t have targeted him in the Rule V draft the way they did)
I would be fine with a bench of: Tatis, Hoffmann, Cervelli, and Pena
Rich in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Thames is awful in the OF.
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True, but he’s going to start 20% of the time and be replaced late in the game.
So who’s the guy to get then Rich?
Please don’t say Damon.
We are talking RH hitter for 2mil or less.
The braves have plenty of outfielders and are cheap. They don’t sign excess…I’m not surprised
I think people are misreading the Damon-Abreu comparison.
Abreu fell into an ideal situation. He had a good offensive year (though not as good as I think the Angels community has assumed) but also became a team leader.
He got his new deal because he proved himself invaluable (in their eyes) to the SAME team he signed for on the cheap.
If Damon signs here again, THAT isn’t going to happen, he’ll be in the exact same situation he’s in now next year – trying to find a NEW team that values him more than the Yankees do.
Will he be motivated to have a good year? Sure, but he had a GREAT year in 2009. He won’t be better offensively in 2010.
If Damon signs on the cheap, he has to find a team that might regard his everyday contributions strong enough to reward him with a raise and extension next year. That isn’t the Yankees.
Damod coming BACK to the Yankees for $7m is not Abreu going to the Angels for $5m, which is why Damon isn’t coming back to the Yankees.
David,
I think Cash is in Stealth mode, not impressed with whats out there. Therefore i expect him to pull of a trade for the final remaining piece. Why else would he be so quiet?
SoS,
Lol. I wasn’t being contrarian (let me know if you need help with that word).
The J-E-T-S, Jets are H-O-T, H-O-T, HOT!
Would love Favre to go far in the playoffs, but Dallas is also, Hot!Hot!Hot!
The Cardinals? Defense? We don’t need no stinking defense!
The Ravens? Well, maybe I was being a little contrarian there. But I’ll root for the guys who beat us.
“I would be fine with a bench of: Tatis, Hoffmann, Cervelli, and Pena.”
Works for me Chip. Although we have no idea about this Hoffman kid.
Tatis played OK for the Mets last year.
Why else would he be so quiet?
Because he doesn’t have a major need and there are a lot of guys out there who fit the profile of the player he’s looking for. From his point of view there’s no rush.
You know, considering the date and all the names we’re still bantering back and forth – (Tatis, Thames, Ankiel, Baldelli, Nady), not to mention Damon still out there, I’m wondering if 1 of 2 of those names might be forced to accept a spring training invite, which might be what Cashman is waiting for.
I doubt all of them get a guaranteed deal.
Patrick -
You’re right. We don’t know anything about Hoffmann but as I said if the Yankees didn’t think he could play they wouldn’t have targeted him the way they did.
Bret the Hitman at 12:43 pm:
Nady is a skilled hitter in his prime. His swing shouldn’t be too hard to replicate. He’ll need to work on his timing but he’ll be able to recognize pitches the same and eventually regain his bat speed. The elbow ligament probably doesn’t affect bat speed at all. It affects throwing.
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Bret: Your argument makes sense and leads to a reasonable conclusion: trying somehow to out-wait or circumvent Boras and sign Nady (as an occasional LF and replacement for Nick Johnson if he goes down).
I do wonder, though, about the effects of a second TJ on aspects of hitting such as bat speed. I myself know less than nothing about the matter, but posters on various blogs have different (variously educated) guesses about the matter. How reasonably certain are you that his bat speed probably won’t be affected by the surgery?
Stuckey,
You’re right, if Damon came back to the Yankees then it wouldn’t be the same as Abreu last year because Abreu went to a new team.
However, if there are only one years deals out there for about the same money and one of those isn’t a place Damon wants to be or is a team that isn’t competitive then he would be better off coming back to the Yankees for a year and trying again next year. They give him the best chance to repeat his numbers and win therefore keeping his value from going down even more.
mel,
I would use GB’s dictionary first than ask you what something means. You can no longer intimidate me with those 10 letter words.
Jets havnt played anybody decent in a month. How can you say their hot? Colts bench warmere, Raiders nuff said, Cincy worst playoff team out there.
Cards were almost a toss up. I just think that the Saints offense is a tad better and they cant self destruct losing 4 in a row.
Dallas is very hot and are a loaded team. I root for 3 teams every weekend. Colts and anyone thats playing the Vikings(favre going to minny is like Jete going to the sox), Pats. But i think they needed the rest and are being over looked. If Allen can get pressure on Romo, its over. Still rooting for them though.
Colts, no need to explain. Your just hatin. Understandably(14 letters)so.
May not be logical, but I can’t help but feel like the Yankees will regret not bringing Damon back. You don’t forget how to play the field. Sure, your body ages, but maybe there are some adjustments (in approach, conditioning, whatever) Damon could make. And if so, I’m sure the harsh reality of the weak demand for his services will motivate Damon to make them.
I like Nick Johnson, but I just don’t see him as the kind of pain in the neck batter (or baserunner) that Damon can be. And I honestly do have some concerns about changing the makeup of the team too much, especially after such a successful season.
Or maybe I just like the guy and that’s clouding my judgement.
I’m torn on Damon. I know that his defense will hurt us less than Gardner’s defense. I know that Gardner’s a real threat off the bench.
But I know that Damon has 3 things going against him that are contributing to his shockingly weak market. Age, durability, and NYS splits.
I know that Damon’s defense will hurt us less than Gardner’s offense. D’oh!
“I still don’t get this logic. If the premise is he’s a much better CF than LF defensively, okay, but if he plays CF, the guy slated slated for CF will play LF.
Gardner’s value to the Yankees doesn’t change offensively depending to where he and Granderson happen to be standing in defensive half-innings.”
CF defense provide more value than LF defense. Gardner may well be a better CF than Granderson. Therefore he has more value in CF.
I do wonder, though, about the effects of a second TJ on aspects of hitting such as bat speed. I myself know less than nothing about the matter, but posters on various blogs have different (variously educated) guesses about the matter. How reasonably certain are you that his bat speed probably won’t be affected by the surgery?
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I think it’s impossible to determine with any certainty if his bat speed will be affected which is why he’ll get an incentive laden 1 year deal based on plate appearances rather than OF appearances. His deal won’t reward him for playing the OF because his throwing is more at risk from the elbow surgery. Nady wants an opportunity to play the field though, at the very least in a platoon situation. He needs to re-establish his value as an everyday fielder because DH’s don’t get big dollars.
As far as bat speed goes, I think Nady must first put on a batting practice exhibition before he gets any firm offers. The scouts will pick up on his bat speed right away, of course.
Patrick
“So who’s the guy to get then Rich?”
I want to stand pat unless Damon falls into their laps.
http://blogs.northjersey.com/b....._baldelli/
Very low base salary + incentives would make Baldelli a very intriguing option.
“Very low base salary + incentives would make Baldelli a very intriguing option.”
I disagree, m. This guy has serious health problems. Doesn’t having Nick Johnson on the team fill our “unhealthy guy” quota?
The Yankees and Damon are like former significant others. Both want to get back together, but each are a little too proud to admit it.
They need a mutual friend to make it happen.
/soap opera
Blake,
This isn’t a knock on Damon’s character. But the guy has two rings. At this point in his career I gotta imagine he’s thinking about longevity and his last paydays.
I can’t argue, he might have an option that he thinks would be a team that would reward him after a good year. But IF he does, if he can find a situation where he thinks he could land for 3 years, even if he has to pay to play for the last two, I imagine he’d go there, regardless of their post-season chances or region.
I can’t prove that obviously, but I’d actually see the Yanks as being Damon’s last resort.
The guy is human, I’m not saying it would affect his play, but he couldn’t feel good about coming back on the Yankees terms AND knowing for certain that he’s a 1 year rental.
Laura,
I know. But I he’s the definition of a bench guy at this point. Just bubble wrap NJ and Baldelli (separately of course).
GB7–As I recall, Jake Gibbs was a pretty good college QB at University of Mississippi. I agree he wan’t a major league player.
Gibbs was an All-American, or something.
Stuckey, I understand what you’re saying but I have to think that also at this point in hks career he would have little interest in DHing for a bad team..he’s won for a long time now with the Yankees and Sox.
“IF” we were to make any offer to Nady or Baldelli
it should be at a low salary with generous bonuses for # of plate appearances. Maybe even a minor league deal with roster bonuses. If they produce they get paid very well if they don’t they don’t.
austinmac
January 15th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
GB7–As I recall, Jake Gibbs was a pretty good college QB at University of Mississippi. I agree he wan’t a major league player.
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Yeah, Jake was an All-American in baseball and football. He was elected to the College Football HOF. Good defensive catcher, but, just couldn’t hit.
“CF defense provide more value than LF defense. Gardner may well be a better CF than Granderson. Therefore he has more value in CF.”
True, but the Yankee brought in Granderson to be thier every day CF. Also, Gardner is likely going to be a platoon player and the Yankees traded his CF platoon partner so filling a LF platoon is going to be easier.
To me it makes more sence to just play Granderson everyday in CF and only play Gardner there if Grandy is out.
Granderson is a vary good and proven CF so there is no need to be switching him back and forth. Gardy is the guy that needs to be flexable and play all OF positions.
Reading the Baldelli rumors, UGH!
Rich in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
The Yankees and Damon are like former significant others. Both want to get back together, but each are a little too proud to admit it.
They need a mutual friend to make it happen.
/soap opera
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LOL
As the Johnny Damon Turns???
Nothing wrong with Baldelli. Probably wouldn’t play more than 60 games in the outfield anyway.
Somebody at Cape Canaveral has taken getting a real high too literally. They found a stash of coke inside the shuttle hanger.
My preference would be to play Gardner in LF.
If he improves just a hair on how he played before his thumb injury he can be a very valuable player. Having a base stealing threat in the 9 hole sets up great for our awesome top of the lineup. 90-100 runs scored is not that far fetched.
Cashman looks like he is going to try to get away with the weak outfield and poor lineup he has assembled this season to save $$$. And he may get away with it. With the Red Sox passing on Bay, they’ve weakened their lineup even more than the Yankees have. It wouldn’t surprise me if Cashman and Epstein had a gentleman’s agreement ==> You don’t re-sign Bay, we don’t re-sign Matsui and Damon. Both of them save $$$ and make their bosses happy without hurting themselves relatively to the other. Tampa’s pitching is probably a year away and Toronto and Baltimore are works in progress, at best. The deal is off if either one gets off to a horrendous start.
Vikings
Cardinals
Jets
Colts
S.o.S…..When’s the last time the Colts lost to the same team twice in the same season ???? Taking it one step further, the same team in a month’s time ????
ko,
Weak lineup? Come on now.
There’s also a chance the Yankees trade Gaudin and/or Mitre to free up some more $$$ for a LF signing.
Erin
January 15th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
As the Johnny Damon Turns???
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Now that is a show I would watch!
True, but the Yankee brought in Granderson to be thier every day CF. Also, Gardner is likely going to be a platoon player and the Yankees traded his CF platoon partner so filling a LF platoon is going to be easier.”
Cash did leave open the possibility of Granderson playing LF and Gardner playing CF.
Either way, I think Gardner should play every day for 3 mos. until he proves that he can.
Also, my post was about hypothetical value.
To me it makes more sence to just play Granderson everyday in CF and only play Gardner there if Grandy is out.
Granderson is a vary good and proven CF so there is no need to be switching him back and forth. Gardy is the guy that needs to be flexable and play all OF positions.”
I think it depends on which player proves that he is better
“As the Johnny Damon Turns??? ”
Works for me.
But seriously…given his options, I am becoming more intrigued by his thought process. If, for example, he can’t make more than say $3-$4m for one year, can he handle swallowing his pride and playing here, or will he just opt for a fresh start elsewhere. I honestly don’t have a clue. And we don’t know if Cash will take him back.
Question:
If ellsbury had come up in the Yankees system and Gardner had come up in the Red Sox system would there be any difference. Meaning would we be having these same conversations now about Ellsbury and would Gardner be the overhyped CFer for the Sox?
Any time a player gets in 154 games and 540 plate appearances is considered a little more than a platoon player.
Rich in NJ
I want to stand pat unless Damon falls into their laps.
OK Rich,
I can agree to give the young guys a chance. The Yankees have said Damon is not an option.
They have to at least invite a few more OFs to Spring Training to give Gardner and Hoffman some competition though.
Maybe Nady rehabbing on a low cost deal makes the most sence at the start of the season.
If the Yankees put the value on Damon at 2/14 then even if they have moved on if they can get him for 1/6 then I have to think they will Listen because of the value.
“If the Yankees put the value on Damon at 2/14 then even if they have moved on if they can get him for 1/6 then I have to think they will Listen because of the value”
Not necessarily. 2/14 was “value” before they signed Nick Johnson.
I think Cash is going to stay in house for LF. And dont be surprised if Jorge”El Destructor” Vazquez is mentioned in the mix for LF/DH/bench player. The Yanks even brought him to Instructs to work on his catching. That is where he started his career. I am not saying he is a great fielder, but he is playable at four positions. He has played 220 pro games at 1B, 150 at 3B, and has played corner OF. He is in minicamp right now…. But he mashes no matter where he is. AA, AAA, Winter Ball or the Bigs. If you want power and average off the bench and DH it is Jorge. He can change the game with one swing of the bat. And he is an RBI machine. Last year in Trenton 56rbi in 57gm. In the Mex AAA lg in ’08 he had 59 in 56, in ’06 98rbi in 75g, in ’05 96 in 71. At Trenton last year hit .394 with 6hr and 42rbi and a 1.134OPS with RISP in 57g. Miranda is projected to be .280/18hr/80rbi. That is good, but Jorge would be at .300/30hr/100rbi. He was an EL All-Star placing 3rd in the league in avg.(.332), 5th in HR(13), 7th in RBI(55) and 1st in SLG (.584) while only playing in 56 out of the leagues 91g at the break. Monster numbers in a pitchers league. This winter he hit a HR every 10ab. And the last 4 out of 5 were against pitchers that have had ML experience. He is fifth in HR in the league while only playing half the games. It is not like he is inexperienced! He is ML ready. In Mexico he was not just a great player, he was a superstar. He was like Matsui to Japan. He was on Gatorade ads, he played in the WBC hitting a grand slam in his first ab, he has won a Carribean WS, he has played in the AAA Mexican league since he signed when he was 16 years old, and if you look at the numbers, dominated. He had many nicknames, El Chato, El Canonero, El Destructor. He could hit 5th in the Yankees lineup right now. He has big time power to all fields. He is a hitting machine. The Bronx will love ‘El Chato’!!!! You heard it here first.
ko
January 15th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Cashman looks like he is going to try to get away with the weak outfield and poor lineup he has assembled this season to save $$$. And he may get away with it. With the Red Sox passing on Bay, they’ve weakened their lineup even more than the Yankees have. It wouldn’t surprise me if Cashman and Epstein had a gentleman’s agreement ==> You don’t re-sign Bay, we don’t re-sign Matsui and Damon. Both of them save $$$ and make their bosses happy without hurting themselves relatively to the other. Tampa’s pitching is probably a year away and Toronto and Baltimore are works in progress, at best. The deal is off if either one gets off to a horrendous start.
is this a joke?
Frank,
I know that was before they signed NJ but they wouldn’t have to pay that much now most likely.
Pat M,
I would think it might have been when the Pats(no pun intended)were owning them in the early 2000′s. They arent playing the Jets though. I will say this. If it rains on Sunday(GOOD POSSIBILITY), i would change my pick to the JETS.
What erica would call the Soap opera of damon and Cashman.
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
Eric Byrnes has been DFA’d accoring to mlbtraderumors….New Yankee left fielder???
Plot twist: Damon in a coma and none of this is really happening.
Or, the Yankees will sign a new LF’er. It will be Damon with an eye-patch on. However, none of his teammates or Yankee fans will know.
blake
January 15th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Question:
If ellsbury had come up in the Yankees system and Gardner had come up in the Red Sox system would there be any difference. Meaning would we be having these same conversations now about Ellsbury and would Gardner be the overhyped CFer for the Sox?
We can only hope that Gardner becomes the player Ellsbury is. Right now Ellsbury is a far better hitter with a lot more power. He’ll be back in CF for the Sox by mid season too.
I beieve that Gardner is going to get his chance this year to prove if he’s an every day guy. I like the guy, he’s exciting to watch, but he’s got to get on base to stick in the starting lineup.
Tom in NJ
January 15th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Plot twist: Damon in a coma and none of this is really happening.
Or, the Yankees will sign a new LF’er. It will be Damon with an eye-patch on. However, none of his teammates or Yankee fans will know.
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LMAO
Tom,
You forgot a couple
a. Damons evil twin plays lf
b. Damons ghost
c. Damon comes back as a sox spy
Ellsbury > Gardner at this point. No doubt and not really close.
That doesn’t mean Gardner can’t get better. He hasn’t been given a real chance. If he gets LF, he’ll have my full support…
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Pat M,
I would think it might have been when the Pats(no pun intended)were owning them in the early 2000’s. They arent playing the Jets though. I will say this. If it rains on Sunday(GOOD POSSIBILITY), i would change my pick to the JETS.
What erica would call the Soap opera of damon and Cashman.
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
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The Days of Our Pretend Lives
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Tom,
You forgot a couple
a. Damons evil twin plays lf
b. Damons ghost
c. Damon comes back as a sox spy
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Damon gets amnesia!!!
That doesn’t mean Gardner can’t get better. He hasn’t been given a real chance. If he gets LF, he’ll have my full support…
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Mine Too!!
Gardner’s jock strap
January 15th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
That doesn’t mean Gardner can’t get better. He hasn’t been given a real chance. If he gets LF, he’ll have my full support…
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Mine Too!!
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Tom,
You forgot a couple
a. Damons evil twin plays lf
b. Damons ghost
c. Damon comes back as a sox spy
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This is shaping up to be a pretty good show!!
Erica,
I’d still vote for JD any day.
If NYYs are planning on patching up left field with a right handed bat, Baldelli’s a better bet than Byrnes, who’s a .220 hitter over the last two years. He’s no more likely to stay productive and healthy than Baldelli, who’s a better defensive player, as well as hitter.
Boston Dave – XXVII
January 15th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Erica,
I’d still vote for JD any day.
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Me too!!!!!
I am trying to use my most magical powers here, but this has not been an easy task. I am not giving up on the return of MPB Johnny Damon
That doesn’t mean Gardner can’t get better. He hasn’t been given a real chance. If he gets LF, he’ll have my full support…
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If it wasnt for his wheels, no one would be talking about giving him a chance. He only batted above .300 once in the minors. Hasnt shown any power(infield track) or signs of using his blazing SPEED(bad bunter and not doesnt keep the ball on the ground). I dont know what the difference between Gardner and Crosby is? no one wanted Bubba to get another shot. I just think most want to root for the Cinderella. If Gardner was on another team and we traded for him. Most would be up in arms for making that trade. There are much better options for STARTING left fielders.
BTW, Melky hit 300+(i believe .340 before being called up) consistantly in the minors.
Did you peeps see this-
Tigers Have Not Expressed Interest In Damon
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [January 15 at 2:07pm CST]
2:07pm: Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski told Beck through a team spokesperson that the Tigers have not expressed interest in Damon (Twitter link). If the Braves aren’t likely to sign Damon, where will he end up?
8:35am: Now that they’ve found a closer, the Tigers are looking for offense and Johnny Damon is one of the players they’re considering, according to MLB.com’s Jason Beck. The Tigers, who were first connected to Damon last night, have had preliminary talks with agent Scott Boras about Damon.
As Beck notes, the Tigers have an uncertain amount of payroll flexibility at this point, but it doesn’t look like Damon will require a long-term commitment. The Braves are interested, but there are cheap corner outfield options out there, which limits Boras’ leverage.
Baldelli’s a better bet than Byrnes, who’s a .220 hitter over the last two years. He’s no more likely to stay productive and healthy than Baldelli, who’s a better defensive player, as well as hitter.
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Seriously, i must have been having the same things that your having this week. We’re on the same wave length.
I really like your idea on Tex batting 5th.
Erica,
Your borederline Stalkish. Control yourself.
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
If NYYs are planning on patching up left field with a right handed bat, Baldelli’s a better bet than Byrnes, who’s a .220 hitter over the last two years. He’s no more likely to stay productive and healthy than Baldelli, who’s a better defensive player, as well as hitter.
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As long as Cashman doesn’t sign Butch Cavendish, all is good.
Know what I mean quimo sabe ?
Who cares about Eric Byrnes? He’s not any better than Brett Gardner.
Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Did you peeps see this-
Tigers Have Not Expressed Interest In Damon
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There’s still hope!!
Not that this means anything, but I had a dream the other night that NYY resigned Damon. If they really do, maybe I can convince people I’m psychic.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Tom,
You forgot a couple
a. Damons evil twin plays lf
b. Damons ghost
c. Damon comes back as a sox spy
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This is shaping up to be a pretty good show!!
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Erin,
I swear iv never watched a soap opera. Even with all the fine women in them. Im man among mens.
Unless you consider Desperate Housewives a soap opera. I finally convinced my wife to stop watching it with her due to the soap opera direction it was taking. Took me awhile.
For some reason it took that hot chick(Sheridan)to die for me to realize that.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Erica,
Your borederline Stalkish. Control yourself.
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No worries. I am not having one of my more motivated days at work. I am a little bored. And not a stalker- don’t love that label
Dan Reid
January 15th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
If NYYs are planning on patching up left field with a right handed bat, Baldelli’s a better bet than Byrnes, who’s a .220 hitter over the last two years. He’s no more likely to stay productive and healthy than Baldelli, who’s a better defensive player, as well as hitter.
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As long as Cashman doesn’t sign Butch Cavendish, all is good.
Know what I mean quimo sabe ?
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You ain’t Dan Reid. I bet that you’re not even Dan’s grandson Britt Reid (The Green Hornet).
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Baldelli’s a better bet than Byrnes, who’s a .220 hitter over the last two years. He’s no more likely to stay productive and healthy than Baldelli, who’s a better defensive player, as well as hitter.
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Seriously, i must have been having the same things that your having this week. We’re on the same wave length.
I really like your idea on Tex batting 5th.
Erica,
Your borederline Stalkish. Control yourself.
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Don’t blame me if the cops pick you up for being a peeping tom.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Erin,
I swear iv never watched a soap opera. Even with all the fine women in them. Im man among mens.
Unless you consider Desperate Housewives a soap opera. I finally convinced my wife to stop watching it with her due to the soap opera direction it was taking. Took me awhile.
For some reason it took that hot chick(Sheridan)to die for me to realize that.
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S.o.S, for never watching soaps, you’ve got some of the major plot points down!
But I believe Desperate Housewives is considered a primetime soap. I’m surprised you quit watching with all of the women on there! LOL
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Don’t blame me if the cops pick you up for being a peeping tom.
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Can we squash the stalker/peeping tom talk? I take major offense to it
Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Don’t blame me if the cops pick you up for being a peeping tom.
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Can we squash the stalker/peeping tom talk? I take major offense to it
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Erica, the post wasn’t for you.
“Stuckey, I understand what you’re saying but I have to think that also at this point in hks career he would have little interest in DHing for a bad team..he’s won for a long time now with the Yankees and Sox.”
This is more a general comment than a specific one, but I think some fans overestimate what “winning” means to players.
The idea that players are as passionate about fans as winning and getting rings is nice, but it’s overstated.
Damon is going to go where Damon gets the biggest payday.
IMHO – $5m 1 year Yanks vs %6.5m 1 year from Baltimore (for sake of discussion) I don’t think is even a contest.
GreenBeret7
January 15th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Erica, the post wasn’t for you
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Thank you
Damn Erica! We’re family here, no need to take offense to any joke thats being thrown out there. No ones calling the authorities. GB7 is old. Old people peep. Case closed.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Damn Erica! We’re family here, no need to take offense to any joke thats being thrown out there. No ones calling the authorities. GB7 is old. Old people peep. Case closed.
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The extreme level that I play up my love for Johnny Damon should be joke enough!!!!
(Although, I did keep it September 2009 for 4 months cause it was Johnny Damon month…………)
brothers and sisters, why are we fighting?
Changing the subject for a second. On the front page of yahoo, it shows a brand new car from india coming here and selling for only $2500. When is the last time any of us has ever witnessed that? Excluding you GB.
Im going to buy 2. One for odd days and one for even. The only thing is. I have to keep my weight down or i will be riding solo and turning it into a his and hers.
Rumor is we’re close to signing Sal Zuccaro for LF. That’d be huge, if true.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Changing the subject for a second. On the front page of yahoo, it shows a brand new car from india coming here and selling for only $2500. When is the last time any of us has ever witnessed that? Excluding you GB.
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That sounds like my kind of car! lol
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
January 15th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
brothers and sisters, why are we fighting?
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No one is fighting. We are one big happy LoHud family
Sos it will sell for 8000 after they refit for US emissions.
5,500 to refit for emissions – sure, gimme a break.
Is India exempt emission standards?
Sure blame the US for all the worlds woes. We truly are evil and should be banned from participatinfg in world affairs.
Regardless of what happens with Damon or Nady, Scott Boras will be taking a hefty cut in client commissions this year.
Matt Holliday’s commission will barely pay the office and research staff he has in L.A.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
January 15th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
brothers and sisters, why are we fighting?
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No one is fighting. We are one big happy LoHud family
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I dont know about that Erica. You were looking at me with that tone of voice.
Erin,
I wonder if theres a moped engine underneath the hood. I would prefer lawn moer engine(hitting 2 birds with one rock) so i can finally man up and cut the grass on my own while sitting in air conditioning listening to a game. I can use the money im paying my gardner to make payments on my credit card for it.
Brian $$$$man
January 15th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Rumor is we’re close to signing Sal Zuccaro for LF. That’d be huge, if true.
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It seems to me he won 4 Gold Gloves in the last 5 years along with 3 RBI titles.
For 8000 bucks you could buy a great used Honda or Toyota or nice domestic.
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
No one is fighting. We are one big happy LoHud family
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I dont know about that Erica. You were looking at me with that tone of voice.
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Me… never! When you are in real trouble with me you know it!
We need to liven this joint up a bit today-
Uncle E help me out here
S.o.S.
January 15th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Erin,
I wonder if theres a moped engine underneath the hood. I would prefer lawn moer engine(hitting 2 birds with one rock) so i can finally man up and cut the grass on my own while sitting in air conditioning listening to a game. I can use the money im paying my gardner to make payments on my credit card for it.
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LOL Go for it-you’ve got it all planned out!
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
January 15th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
For 8000 bucks you could buy a great used Honda or Toyota or nice domestic.
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No worries, Uncle E. I wouldn’t actually buy the Indian car. I just really liked the price
The trailer for the A-team looks great – I hope the movie is too.
Bradley Cooper as Face
Liam Neeson as Hannibal
Some UFC guy as BA
and the District 9 guy as Murdock.
there will be blood unlike the TV show
Just got back from Yankee Stadium. New post is up.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
January 15th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
The trailer for the A-team looks great – I hope the movie is too.
Bradley Cooper as Face
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Bradley Cooper = I’m in
If Damon really wanted to stay with us, he would of taken the Yankees contract. This just shows how greedy he is, just trying to make up the money he lost in the scandal last year..Hope he signs for $5 million or less because thats all he’s worth!
Kinda sorta unrelated (but Yankee-themed) but I read LoHud every day so I wanted to post my essay: Top 5 Favorite Steroid Admissions. Thanks:
http://ourannoyingworld.com/20.....nfessions/
By the way, back on topic — For what its worth — in my opinion Damon isnt coming back because a player’s ego wouldnt allow him to come crawling back to a team that has shown so little interest in pursuing him. Only Arod managed around this dilemma and he did so by blaming Scott Boras.
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I can’t believe all the hype on the imposters for the left field job and possible platoon for Gardner when Damon is sitting there at a discounted price. Just sign Damon. Let’s face it Gardner stinks, can’t play every day, is a Punch and Judy hitter and all of his weaknesses will be exposed the more he plays. Why trade prospects and pick up salary in July which is inevitable. Damon fits NY perfectly, a great 2 hole hitter behind Jeter with power who can also pull the ball. He hits lefties, plays well in the playoffs and isn’t afraid of anything. Don’t like losing too much experience and with Matsui gone do not want to see both he and Damon gone. Let’s not forget Johnny out hit Tiexeira, Cano, and Swisher in the playoffs last year. He’s not perfect but is proven and far far better than anything left out there. Sign Johnny 1 yr 6-7 million plus incentives.