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Cashman denies Damon deadline

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jan 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has refuted the idea the Yankees are waiting for Johnny Damon to make a decision before moving on to other outfield options.

“That’s not true,” Cashman said. “I have a certain amount of money, and when I decide to spend it, I’m going to spend it.”

While Cashman has repeatedly acknowledged that the Yankees remain in the market for an outfielder, he said the team has “had no discussions on Jermaine Dye” and is “not on Jim Edmonds at all.”

The slow-developing outfield market has not surprised Cashman. After seeing last year’s free agent market develop slowly, Cashman said, he expected the same this winter.

“How long it’s taking certain people to wake up and smell the coffee, that’s what surprises me,” Cashman said. “When you get on the phone with agents, they tell you one thing, and certain agents can’t honestly believe what they’re trying to convey. Do they think I’m stupid?”

UPDATE, 5:12 p.m.: Here’s the latest story from Jon Heyman. Clearly he has a source telling him something different from what Cashman is telling me. Also, Marc Carig heard from Damon today. Damon says he should have a team within a week.

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596 Responses to “Cashman denies Damon deadline”

  1. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Ack- Did he deny an offer was made???

  2. Chad Jennings January 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    He did not, but he’s also never been one to talk about whether an offer is on the table or not.

  3. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Erin
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Johnny Back!!!
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    I am remaining cautiously optimistic. I cannot get my hopes up yet. However, when and if news come down that Johnny accepts….

    I go into all-out victory mode!

    *********************
    Do you have the champagne chilled and ready to pop?

    ****************

    No silly, Erin. I did not just win the World Series. This will be more like a celebratory glass of wine and a ridiculous amount of LoHud gloating :-)

  4. sevrox January 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Stealth CashMan – at it again. Don’t look him in the eyes – you’ll turn to stone.

  5. Erin January 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Mike S.
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    NYYanksFan
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    Jeter, A-Rod and CC were with Johnny this week. Maybe they did some negotiating with player and team.

    *************************
    That’s cool. Think they talked some sense into him?

    Maybe they made him “an offer he can’t refuse”

    *******************************
    LOL

  6. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Montero Fanaticus Primus January 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “Do they think I’m stupid?”

    Unfortunately, some fans are less than intelligent…

  7. Anonymous28 January 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Get em Cash!

  8. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Chad Jennings
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    He did not, but he’s also never been one to talk about whether an offer is on the table or not.

    *************************

    It doesn’t exactly require Sherlock Holmes to figure out who he is talking about in the last paragraph. I think the fact that he didn’t deny the entire story altogether is an excellent sign

  9. Erin January 23rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Johnny Back!!!
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    No silly, Erin. I did not just win the World Series. This will be more like a celebratory glass of wine and a ridiculous amount of LoHud gloating

    ***************************
    Oh, I see. The gloating should be very entertaining-I look forward to that! :D

  10. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    NYYanksFan
    January 23rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    Jeter, A-Rod and CC were with Johnny this week. Maybe they did some negotiating with player and team.

    *************

    Sounds more like they were trying to recruit him. Not sure if Johnny Damon has ever heard of this team called the New York Yankees that won the world series last year and would be a PERFECT fit for him

  11. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Erin
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    Oh, I see. The gloating should be very entertaining-I look forward to that!
    *************************

    I will like to start with the dude who likes to say “The Yankees and Johnny Damon are PARTING WAYS”.

    I have something I would like to stick his face in and its sure not a whipped cream pie

  12. Joe from Long Island January 23rd, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    While Cashman can be a bit of a sphinx to decipher, I don’t think he would outright lie; though sportswriters may have a different opinion there.

    From what Chad quotes, above, Cash said he is not waiting on Damon, and that he (Cash) will decide when and where to spend the money.

    I take this as meaning 1)no comment on ongoing negotiations, and 2)we’re not waiting for Damon, or anyone else – so hurry up and make up your mind or you miss out for a second time – and are actively considering all options. (“you’re not the only one to have options and mystery teams/players, Mr. Boras”).

  13. Joe from Long Island January 23rd, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I’ve got dinner plans with the wife and friends. I hope this isn’t settled tonight, so I can witness/read Erica’s gloating in real time.

  14. Jimbo January 23rd, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    If Damon refuses the (alleged but likely) offer, I wonder what the Yanks would have to give up in a trade for Josh Willingham? Buster Olney said yesterday that the Marlins are shopping him and he seems like a good fit – a right-handed LFer with an .840 career OPS overall, and incredible splits against lefties.

  15. Chad Jennings January 23rd, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    I don’t think Cashman lies about things like this. Obviously he told me what he wanted to tell me, so there might be some sort of agenda at play, but I don’t think Cashman would ever deny a story that’s perfectly true.

    I also have no doubt that Heyman has a source telling him his report is true.

  16. Jimbo January 23rd, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    . . . and Willingham only made 2.95M last season . . .

  17. Stan January 23rd, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    As always, the slealth Cashman won’t tip his hand but it’s fair enough to assume he’s not in any discussion with Gary Sheffield.

  18. no.27 January 23rd, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    If the Yankees are able to bring in Johnny Damon they will have the most talented offense of all time.

    SS Jeter
    DH Johnson
    1B Teixeira
    3B Rodriguez
    LF Damon
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    RF Swisher
    CF Granderson

    CC, Burnett, Vasquez, Pettitte, and Joba in the rotation. CC leading the rotation with AJ and Joba having better years, Pettitte having a solid season as the 4th starter, and Vasquez replacing all the terrible starts made by Wang, Mitre, Hughes, and Gaudin. They have a strong bullpen with Mo, Hughes, Robertson, and Marte.

    This is the most talented team ever put together.

  19. EricVA January 23rd, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Jimbo –

    Willingham plays for the Nationals and they’ve repeated said he’s not available.

  20. Jimbo January 23rd, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    I see that Willingham just signed a $4.6 million deal to avoid arbitration. Might as well pay Damon, but if it doesn’t work out, I’d love to know what Florida would take in return for Willingham.

  21. Jimbo January 23rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    EricVa – why you don’t believe the statement Olney mdae yesterday?

  22. m January 23rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    This is just cruel. Poor Erica. :(

  23. Pat M. January 23rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    No. 27……I think you’re suffering from a bout of cabin fever…..

  24. Joe from Long Island January 23rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Chad – yes, I’ve got no doubt that Jon Heyman has a reliable source for this. (Whether the story itself is true is a different matter, but I would believe Heyman’s source – Boras? – on this.)

    Josh Willingham’s price would be more than his salary, as the Nationals would likely want a decent haul in exchange for him; starting pitching, for instance. The total value in terms of dollars and talent might be more than Damon’s price, which would be dollars only.

  25. David in Cal January 23rd, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    On a different subject, once the Yanks sign Damon or Reed Johnson or whoever, Jamie Hoffman becomes the backup to the backup in the outfield. His playing will be mostly as late inning defensive replacement for Nick Swisher. For such a limited role, it’s questionable whether it’s worth keeping him on the team.

    Hoffman was voted the Dodgers’ best overall minor league fielder. I’m wondering if he could learn to play 3b or catcher a little bit — enough to qualify as an emergency replacement. Extra fielding versatility might be the difference in his staying with the Yanks.

  26. upstate kate January 23rd, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Wow..just got back from walking the dogs and there is all kinds of Johnny Damon rumors again…Erica, maybe your letter helped.

    Rebecca, if you are still out there
    did Syracuse win?
    I enjoyed your fable…maybe if JD reads enough articles, he will take some advice.

  27. gianthinker January 23rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Johnny Damon is the obvious first choice to come back and play LF but I’d love to sign Jermaine Dye instead. He would make our lineup so much more powerful by filling the #5 spot and making pitchers throw Arod fastballs.

    1-Jeter
    2-Johnson
    3-Teixeira
    4-Arod
    5-Dye
    6-Posada
    7-Cano
    8-Swisher
    9-Granderson

    Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. m January 23rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    If Damon comes back, wouldn’t he hit 2nd?

  29. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    # Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Montero Fanaticus Primus January 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “Do they think I’m stupid?”

    Unfortunately, some fans are less than intelligent…
    ——————————————————–
    Wasn’t he talking about the agents?

  30. Erin January 23rd, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    gianthinker
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    1-Jeter
    2-Johnson
    3-Teixeira
    4-Arod
    5-Dye
    6-Posada
    7-Cano
    8-Swisher
    9-Granderson

    Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ***********************
    Don’t jinx them! ;)

  31. Dave January 23rd, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Chad Jennings
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    I also have no doubt that Heyman has a source telling him his report is true.
    *******************************

    Chad, Heyman has one source. It’s Scott Boras! The worst kept secret in baseball among GMs, media, and agents is that Heyman basically is on Scott Boras’s payroll. In exchange for first info on his clients, Heyman has pumped up the position of Boras’s clients in the media. He is Boras’s mouthpiece. If you look at what Heyman has wrote the past few years, it has becomes painfully obvious. This year he did it with Holliday. He did it with Manny before.

    All off-season Heyman has been doing Boras’s work for Damon. Pumping up his stats and linking him to teams that didn’t have an interest. Heyman tried to create a market for Damon that wasn’t there. Now he is trying, in a desperate attempt, to make it seem like the Yankees want him back. The whole thing is slimy.

    If Baseball investigated Heyman and some others, they could have a major scandal exposing some shady journalists on the take from agents. MLB would have to do it, because sadly another journalist would never expose their own.

  32. pat January 23rd, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Interesting developments.

    Is Cashman going to the writer’s dinner tonight? What good timing for this news to break on a day when all the writers will be in the same room as him. :wink:

  33. m January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Dave,

    Baseball won’t do anything about it. They didn’t do anything about steroids (at least until their monopoly was threatened).

    Besides, anything to keep baseball in the news.

  34. Jimbo January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Joe from Long Island – yes, he’s not a free agent and so it would obviously cost salary + players. But whether or not it’s worth it depends entirely on what the the Nationals (not Florida as I mistakenly wrote in a prior comment) will accept in return. If they are dumping salary they might accept minor league talent. Stranger things have happened, and so that’s my (rhetorical, I guess) question: what will they accept? Certainly worth looking into given the ugly free agent options.

  35. pat January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    “I will like to start with the dude who likes to say “The Yankees and Johnny Damon are PARTING WAYS”.

    I have something I would like to stick his face in and its sure not a whipped cream pie”

    Erica

    Before Johnny re-signs, ^that’s trash talking. After he re-signs, that’s gloating. Patience….

  36. Vincent January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Bottom line with Cashman seems to be why should he pay more than market value for someone so they can play for a team who is the favorite to win the world series? He is doing a great job.

  37. pete January 23rd, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    gianthinker: I’m sorry but nobody is going to start pitching to A-Rod because they’re scared of Jermaine Dye. Whether it’s dye or posada hitting behind him, A-Rod being on base is still not a great scenario for the pitcher because it’s never good to have guys on base.

  38. PittsburghYankeeFan January 23rd, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    This is really, really cool.

    Boras is using Heyman, an “old school” print and media reporter, to get out his message. How 20th century.

    Cashman is using Chad, a “new school” blogger, to get out his. I’m loving that Chad is getting access to Cashman–are you, Chad, or is this some general press release? Did you call Brian up to get this? There was no sourcing for Cashman’s statements in the blog comment above, so I’m guessing you spoke to him directly?

    If that’s true, and Chad is getting access to Cash (and I’m really going out on a limb here), then Cashman is reading this blog.

    Now that’s really cool. I wonder if he comments, and what name is he posting under?

  39. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    Now that’s really cool. I wonder if he comments, and what name is he posting under?
    ———————————–
    SJ?

  40. no.27 January 23rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Pat,

    “No. 27……I think you’re suffering from a bout of cabin fever…..”

    What do you mean? What offense comes close to what the Yankees lineup would be? A full season out of A-Rod and replacing Matsui and Gardner with Granderson and Johnson are big upgrades.

    CC is a perennial Cy Young candidate, Vasquez was 3rd in the voting last year, I’m a lot higher on Joba than most people here, but there’s no reason to think he can’t improve on what he did in his first full season as a starter. Burnett was as wild as he’s ever been last year, so there’s room for improvement with him as well.

    Pettitte is the only guy in the rotation that is likely to decline from last season, but the other guys in the rotation all have the potential to perform like #2 starters.

    The bullpen is going to be a strength all season with Mo, Hughes, Robertson, Marte, Aceves, etc. The Yankees even have Mitre and Gaudin ready to go in case of injuries or potentially resting starters late in the season.

    If the Yankees bring back Damon they will have taken a championship team and replaced Matsui, Melky, and the terrible group of 5th starters with Nick Johnson, Curtis Granderson, and Javy Vasquez.

  41. Nick in SF in Napa January 23rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Cashman’s quotes come across as a bit churlish, no?

    He’s not denying that some sort of offer has been made to Damon, he’s just denying that the Yanks are waiting for Damon to make a decision?

    Is there a point to that? I have no idea. But maybe he has offers to other players too and they’ll sign whoever bites first?

    Maybe he doesn’t want players X, Y, or Z to get the idea that discussions with them are only contingent on something Damon decides.

    Very curious.

  42. Bronx Born January 23rd, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    # randy l. January 23rd, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    totally off topic, but you don’t see a swing like this too often :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

    wow.
    ————————————–

    You can say that again Randy.. What a swing indeed. He was beautiful to watch and played the game . I loved going to the stadium to see him.

  43. Yankees N More January 23rd, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    More non-denial/denials from Cashman.

    It’s pretty clear that Cashman will stick to his “budget,” but he still has the opening to do what he wants, for the most part, because nobody has anything more than speculation about what that budget actually is…

    At the end of the day, it sure seems the Yanks intend to sign an outfielder to a relatively small contract, and I also think it’s safe to say their first choice of guys to take that small amount of money is Johnny Damon.

    Cashman has no issues directly saying he is not in on Jim Edmonds and he is not in on Jermaine Dye… The next time he says that about Damon will be the first.

  44. YankeeRay January 23rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Willinhams not on the Marlins. If they are talking to the Marlins then I hope it’s for Cody Ross.

  45. m January 23rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Cashman definitely sounds irritated. Good to see.

  46. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    m
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    This is just cruel. Poor Erica.

    *************

    I agree!!! sigh….

  47. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Isn’t it obvious Cash is waiting on Damon?
    Wouldn’t he have signed someone else by now if he wasn’t.
    Johnny is waiting for a better offer, his offer, and they are in a stalemate.
    What else could it be?

    Who will blink 1st?

  48. GreenBeret7 January 23rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Heyman’s most recent Twitter: Have it on good authority that super-agent Scott Boras just belched and broke wind.

    2 minutes ago.

  49. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    pat
    January 23rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Erica

    Before Johnny re-signs, ^that’s trash talking. After he re-signs, that’s gloating. Patience….

    ***********************

    Duly noted. But I am the first to admit that patience is a virtue that I was not born with

  50. Tom in NJ January 23rd, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Heyman: the Yankee’s offer is “probably no more than $5 million guaranteed”

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....n.yankees/

  51. m January 23rd, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    mick,

    As beloved as he is, the Yankees have more options that Damon does.

  52. whatever January 23rd, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    He denied the deadline, he didn’t deny offering a contract

  53. Joe from Long Island January 23rd, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Jimbo – I agree. Though it doesn’t seem as if the Nats are in salary-dumping mode, what with picking up Bruney, Capps, Marquis. Seems as if they’re trying to get respectable. But who knows.

    Well, I’m going out soon, so this Johnny-coming-back news had better wait till tomorrow. Let’s see – Damon coming back and the Jets winning. Now, that would be an interesting Sunday!

  54. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Sad to say, Johnny will probably stick to his guns and not take our ridiculous #, but what if he has no other offers, oh my, goodness gracious…doesn’t he speak some japanese?

  55. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Did someone say Johnny-come-lately?

  56. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    I’d day the Yankees and Damon are in the process of meeting in the middle.

  57. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    sign Reed Johnson

  58. whatever January 23rd, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    NO VINNY, WE’RE SIGNING DAMON.

  59. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    the middle of what? doesn’t seem like Cash is budging…funny way to say we want you back….didn’t the RS do this to him once?

  60. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    “Heyman: the Yankee’s offer is “probably no more than $5 million guaranteed”
    ———————————————————

    and it shouldn’t be. The circumstances involving Bobby Abreu last year, are a carbon copy/the same. And the market is identical to last year. If anything, it is even less. Also, add to the fact Bobby Abreu was a better player, when he took 5 million

  61. Azaz January 23rd, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    link to said meeting between sabathia damon jeter and arod.

  62. whatever January 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Just got a text from Damon. Says he “should have a team in a week” but gave no other hints.

  63. whatever January 23rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Just got a text from Damon. Says he “should have a team in a week” but gave no other hints.

  64. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    it seems stupid….we tried this on torre and made him an offer he had to refuse…and he did. we wanted girardi.

    if that’s what we are doing to JD then why not get someone else?

    Johnny would seem to have some leverage in this scenario.

  65. Nick in SF in Napa January 23rd, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    So what is Cashman’s real message here? What is the news?

    I guess that he didn’t deny that there is some kind of offer/negotiation with Damon. Or repeat “parting ways” or anything like it.

    So… we’re not waiting on Damon but we are talking to Damon…so…if you’re the agent of another outfielder who’s been talking to the Yankees, get real, fast.

    :?:

  66. PittsburghYankeeFan January 23rd, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    Heyman’s speculation makes perfect sense. Putting everything together:

    (1) AAV right now is about $194.5 million not counting the minimum guys.

    (2) If you count the minimum guys (maybe $3 million) then that leaves $2 million–the source of the “$2 million” Cashman is telling agents he has.

    (3) The deal with Cash and Hal is likely $200 million, not counting the league minimum guys, so there’s $5 million left.

    (4) Heyman (Boras) knows the deal is $5 million, which would bring the payroll to $200 million.

    (5) Damon (through Boras) is going to the Yankees: why not pay me the $7 million x 2 you offered last month? That is the source of the Cashman “What do they think I am, stupid” comment.

    (6) Cash would have gone for Hariston but he only has about $5 million remaining, and is not about to trade Gaudin just yet. That is the source of Hariston’s comments on XM.

    (7) Deal is likely around $5 million? The question now is incentives, which Boras communicated through Heyman’s “$5 million base” comment in his article on SI.com.

    Johnny has the weekend to decide. Nice move, Cash, if you’re reading this blog. JD is the best one out there (at least we as fans think so).

  67. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “Just got a text from Damon. Says he “should have a team in a week” but gave no other hints”
    ———————————————-

    was this Damon? Or his wife who texted this?

  68. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    The middle meaning Damon probably wants 8-10, the Yankees say they have 2, probably will sign around 5 + incentives.

  69. steveoh January 23rd, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    I say they sign Nady and teach Boras/Damon/others a lesson. Besides that, I’m sure Nady did not forget how to hit, and probably isn’t expecting much, at least not as much as Damon, is righthanded, and has to be at least as good as Damon in LF. The only question is his health.

  70. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    maybe cash is looking for a 2-fer.
    say dye or reed johnson and edmunds,ST invitee?, for the price of Johnny ?

  71. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    I don’t understand this game, he’s a good player, give him the freeking money! Giambi just got 2m from Colorado, Tejada just got 6m from the O’s. Johnny Damon is worth at least what Tajada got right? how much was game 4 worth, steeling those 2 bases? They ( the Yankees ), can’t be serious!!

  72. Tom in NJ January 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Nady is also a Boras client.

  73. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    The middle meaning Damon probably wants 8-10,
    ———————————————
    This is probably what Cash means by agents making stupid requests.
    He also must want the 2nd year.
    They are obviously far apart and no one else wants him as much as we do or at all.

  74. DT - OPPC member January 23rd, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    “How long it’s taking certain people to wake up and smell the coffee, that’s what surprises me,” Cashman said.”

    If Cash would spice up his Chad quotes with some old fashioned commercialism, he’s have more money to spend on Damon.

    Something like this:

    “How long it’s taking certain people to wake up and smell the STARBUCKS coffee, that’s what surprises me”

    “I’ve been around the GM block, I’m not some Skinny Cinnamon Dolce Latte”

    “The LF spot has never been reserved for a STAR. BUCKS come into play for the Yankees too.”

  75. YankFanDave January 23rd, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Good piece, gives insight into to world of deal making. Although I applaud Cashman’s honestly, categorically eliminating rumors takes away leverage, might have made more sense to take a pass when discussing Dye and Edmonds.

    Cashman seems to be sending a clear message “agents, they tell you one thing, and certain agents can’t honestly believe what they’re trying to convey. Do they think I’m stupid?” — paging Mr. Boras, Mr. Scott Boras.

  76. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Mick, yea I’d say that quote was directly right at at Boras.

  77. steveoh January 23rd, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Tom in NJ January 23rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Nady is also a Boras client.

    Oh, great…

  78. pat January 23rd, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    “Nady is also a Boras client.”

    Multiple offers to clients of the same agent does eliminate the need for a deadline date.

  79. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    And this hard cap the Yankees have placed on themselves is B.S., where the hell is George? Give Damon his 5-7m and call it a day! We should also take a flyer on Ben Sheets for 5th starter, same thing 5-7m with incentives. Keep the kids in the pen ( Joba and Hughes ), where they perform the best. Now you’re talking #28!!

  80. austinmac January 23rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Erica–If Damon signs, you have my blessing to do a world class Lohud gloat. At the same time everyone else will remember that they too always wanted Damon back, but we will all know it was you alone facing the insurmountable odds. Gosh, you’re sounding heroic.

    I will just be thankful that Gardner is not in the starting line-up.

    Let’s hope it happens.

  81. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    In actuality, this delay could indicate they are in negotiations, which is a good thing. When the absolute drop-dead date arrives there will most likely be a deal.

  82. Bill Porter January 23rd, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    “. . . Do they think I’m stupid?”

    At this late date I’d have to say “not unless they’re congenital idiots themselves Brian”.

  83. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Give Damon his 5-7m and call it a day!

    =======================================
    Johnny wants more! 2nd year could be the hangup.

  84. MTU January 23rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    One thing is for SURE something is gonna happen ;)

  85. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Joba is the only clear bridge to Mariano, why they didn’t address this in free agency is beyond me. Mike Gonzales would have been perfect, hard thrower and left handed… not getting him was a mistake because Marte sucks and who is Logan anyway!!

  86. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    2nd year aint happening.

  87. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    What the future will bring is either a Dear John letter or a Johnny-come-lately.

  88. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Cash, sign Damon and Sheets! Spend the extra 10m it will take. Keep the kids in the pen and cruise to #28!!

  89. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    “If Cash would spice up his Chad quotes with some old fashioned commercialism, he’s have more money to spend on Damon.Something like this:
    “How long it’s taking certain people to wake up and smell the STARBUCKS coffee, that’s what surprises me”
    “I’ve been around the GM block, I’m not some Skinny Cinnamon Dolce Latte”
    “The LF spot has never been reserved for a STAR. BUCKS come into play for the Yankees too.
    ——————————————————-

    hilarious, DT

    from what you typed, i believe there is a ‘rob peter to pay paul’ sponsorship somewhere. Ms Paul fishsticks? Peter Paul peppermint patties etc??

  90. Nick in SF in Napa January 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Well, aside from losing my bet with Erica, I would not be unhappy if Johnny and the Yankees come to terms.

    Even though it would seem highly illogical to our Vulcan commenters.

  91. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    If they give Damon 5 million and can unload Gaudin then they are right back to the 2 million that their “budget” requires.

  92. MTU January 23rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    I would rate the odds of JD returning a skosh under impossible and tad above improbable but still doable.

  93. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Yanks are banking on Joba self destructing, i.e. not winning the 5th starter job in ST. Phil will get his shot and Joba will set up.

  94. Steinbrenner's Teeth January 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    If Mr B.C. is reading this, I’d really love to know what his honest take is on Gardner. Many of us who follow the game closely and aren’t stupid either believe that given the amount of depth in the current 2010 lineup having Gardner be the starting left fielder, batting in the ninth spot wouldn’t hurt the team. So if the Dance with Damon ends, there are other solutions available that will obviously still work and not hurt the team.

  95. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    If they give Damon 5 million and can unload Gaudin then they are right back to the 2 million that their “budget” requires.
    ——————————————————–
    But what about the 2nd year?

  96. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Trade Igawa and Gaudin to the Mets for a bag of baseballs. That would save us the money to sign Damon and Sheets. The Mets need all the help they can get!

  97. PittsburghYankeeFan January 23rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Update at 5:12 PM: “What Cashman is telling me…”

    So it is true–Chad is tied in to Cashman.

    So Chad, does Cashman read the blog? Be honest…

  98. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    nobody is givin Damon the second year.

  99. MTU January 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    “Nomad” is “Damon” spelled backwards. That should tell you all you need to know about where Johnny is likely to wind up.

  100. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    It’s not wrong for us as Yankee fans to want more… George created us, spoiled us, gave us everything… and in turn we have been good to the Boss by filling his Stadium. Sign Damon because that’s what we want, it’s that simple!!

  101. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    and thats why cash called the “agent” stupid.

  102. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    “So it is true–Chad is tied in to Cashman.
    So Chad, does Cashman read the blog? Be honest…”
    ———————————————–

    i don’t know. But Michael Kay does :)

  103. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    “Nomad” is “Damon” spelled backwards. That should tell you all you need to know about where Johnny is likely to wind up.
    ————————–
    looking in the mirror saying “why was I so stupid?”

  104. PittsburghYankeeFan January 23rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Who does Micheal Kay post as? He is really part of the “soft underbelly?”

  105. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    do you really think kay would post here?

  106. mick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    these media types don’t have the time to waste here.

  107. DT - OPPC member January 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Thanks Vinny-B.

    Cashman could do it. He has a little pitch man in him. He just needs to channel his inner John Sterling.

  108. MTU January 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Unorthodox ways to get JD to return:

    1)Tell his wife the shopping is going to be even better this year in NY.

    2) Hire Gregorio Tesla (Tesla’s Grandson) to build the Yankees a machine that can rip the fabric of space thereby creating a wormhole used to capture JD.

    3)Trick JD into standing out in LF one more time. While JD is standing there have Brett Gardner run in a circle around johnny at the speed of light transporting JD back to last year as the everyday LF.

  109. Rick January 23rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Cashman has absolutely no interest in popularity contests. His job is to give the manager the best possible 25 players he deems as what will give the team the best chance to win.

  110. Steinbrenner's Teeth January 23rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Michael Kay still needs to do better at not defaulting to an irritated lemon face whenever someone other than himself is talking on camera. Every time Nancy Newman is filling in during the pre and post game it looks like MK wants to just rip her eyes out and stomp up and down on them. Now don’t get me wrong, MK has been getting better with the eye rolls and scowls (he’d even grind his teeth when Bobby Murcer was trying to express a thought). But there still is room for improvement. Maybe a better diet and workout routine is a good starting place.

  111. blake January 23rd, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    After Damon re-signs, where does NJ hit?

  112. Laura - Have the catchers and pitchers reported yet? January 23rd, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    “link to said meeting between sabathia damon jeter and arod.”

    What link?

  113. Fran (the original) and OPPC member January 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    After Damon re-signs, where does NJ hit?
    *****************************
    I would think 5 or 6.

  114. Nick in SF in Napa January 23rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    NJ’s job would be to draw walks with the bases loaded, so…. 6th?

    Or wait, maybe his job would be to draw walks to LOAD the bases. So… 5th?

  115. Laura - Have the catchers and pitchers reported yet? January 23rd, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Didn’t Jerry Hairston say that he didn’t get an offer because Cash is waiting for Damon’s price to come down? So all of these sources are lying and Cash is telling the truth? Do you guys really think that the Yankees would rather have Reed Johnson or Jermaine Dye over Johnny “double steal” Damon?

    Damon needs to suck it up and take $5M, which I’m willing to bet the Yankees would pony up. There’s no way in the world Cash thinks that paying Damon $2M is fair. If he does, he is one cold blooded SOB.

  116. EdWhitson January 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    I am so sick of Johnny Damon. Look, you overplayed your hand and nobody wants you at 1999 prices. Either work somewhere for $5m or take your ball and go home. Either way, I really don’t care. I like you as a Yankees, respected as a Royal/Red Sox/Athletic, but I’m over you now.

  117. vinny-b (NJ and Granderson - thank you Cashman!) January 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    “Damon needs to suck it up and take $5M, which I’m willing to bet the Yankees would pony up. There’s no way in the world Cash thinks that paying Damon $2M is fair. If he does, he is one cold blooded SOB”
    ———————————————-

    cold blooded, was Damon sending word to the Yankees if they weren’t willing to offer 13 million/year, then don’t bother making the offer

  118. Erin January 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Laura – Have the catchers and pitchers reported yet?
    January 23rd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
    Didn’t Jerry Hairston say that he didn’t get an offer because Cash is waiting for Damon’s price to come down?

    ****************
    Yes, which no surprise, Cash denied ;)

    BTW, love the new handle

  119. DT - OPPC member January 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    NJ’s job is to stay out of the Carl Pavano memorial MRI unit.
    Anything else is a bonus.

  120. LAU January 23rd, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Do you think they are going to give Gaudin 3 mill to sit around in case a starter gets injured? Gaudin will be traded to a team for prospects. The 3 mill long with the 2 mill left in the budget equal 5 mill for Johnny. Think how things would be if we did not have Igawa who is costing 10 mill per year.

  121. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Here is the article from Yankees.com.

    Chad seems to be their source too……

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  122. Erin January 23rd, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    DT – OPPC member
    January 23rd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    NJ’s job is to stay out of the Carl Pavano memorial MRI unit.
    Anything else is a bonus.

    *****************
    LMAO

  123. spidanyc January 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    If Nick Johnson received a $5.5 Million dollar deal from the Yankees, isn’t Damon worth at least $6 Million? I understand that the Yankees have a budget, but come on now.

  124. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    24 days, 18 hours and 59 minutes until Pitchers and Catchers Report!!!!

    (Assuming a 1pm start time)

  125. bottom line January 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    “Many of us who follow the game closely and aren’t stupid either believe that given the amount of depth in the current 2010 lineup having Gardner be the starting left fielder, batting in the ninth spot wouldn’t hurt the team”

    Some of us even believe it would help the team!

  126. Fran (the original) and OPPC member January 23rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    But it seems the free-agent outfielder now has a weekend deadline.
    ********************************
    When Damon originally signed with the Yanks he was given a take it or leave it offer and a deadline. Does history repeat?

  127. vey January 23rd, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I’m with you Cashman stick to your terms. Boras made this mess, don’t blink.How he could lead Johnny down this road in this economic times, is negligence . So glad the Edmonds rumor was not true.

  128. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Gardner is a 4th or 5th OF at best, this is the Yankees we’re talking about. Damon and Sheets = 28!

  129. austinmac January 23rd, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    I believe giving Gardner 500 ABs would not be a pretty sight. Every place in the line-up is important. I would much prefer Damon in a criticalsituation, and their will be plenty of such situations. And their is no one on the bench to hit for him.

  130. Rich January 23rd, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Give both Damon and Sheets 5m base with incentives, makes perfect sense. Sheets looked really good during his throwing session on Tuesday. Like I said keep the kids in the pen ( Joba & Huges ), where they perform best!

  131. m January 23rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    “where they perform best!”

    Who wouldn’t?

  132. DaSaint007 January 23rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Damon @ 1 yr, $5 million or Nady @ 1 yr, $3 million works for me. Both have spaghetti arms, so no difference there. Damon is faster and is left-handed. Nady is right-handed, so balances the lineup better.

    I’m tired of all this. Just sign one.

    And trade/cut Boone Logan.

  133. tk January 23rd, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    “Give both Damon and Sheets 5m base with incentives, makes perfect sense.”

    That’s highly unlikely for three reasons: 1) There is no reason to offer Damon incentives on top of the $5M…the Yankees would simply be bidding against themselves. 2) Sheets is reported to be seeking about twice this amount. 3) All indications are that the Yankees will only spend around $2M-$5M more.

    The Yankees are already near $200M and project to be near a 100-win team (that is coming off of their 27th World Championship). While they could undoubtedly afford what you and many others desire, it’s really unfair for us to expect them to pay above market prices to further push their budget above everyone else. Damon screwed up, Cash isn’t going to bail him out…if he wants to come back to NY for about what he could eventually get somewhere else, that’s one thing. However, don’t expect Cash to mollify his wounded pride by exceeding what is reasonable (given current market conditions).

  134. Andy Stankiewicz January 23rd, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    A comical, yet probably accurate take on what is going on with Johnny:

    http://nysubwaychatter.com/201.....my-friday/

    I, for one, think he’s definitely coming back. The Yanks already played hardball with one World Series hero. I don’t think it’s the greatest idea in the world to overhaul a championship team. I mean most of these guys did something right to make that happen, didn’t they?

  135. bottom line January 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    “Gardner is a 4th or 5th OF at best”

    Because you say so?

    Squeezing Gardner out of the line-up erases presumable off-season defensive gains. And with just some minor tweaks, Gardner should add the small ball skills this team needs. Look for Gardner to improve his bunting, start hitting down on the ball and become a major asset.

  136. Hey Kelvin says January 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Damn it sucks that I depart in April. I’m going to miss three months plus of this damn season and it looks to be legendary and classic. I might cry due to missing baseball, instead of crying for leaving my home, hehe.

    This team just seems so talented then in other years, The talent pool is amazing. If Damon were to be added, that is by far the best offensive lineup I have seen in decades.

    Health aside, this team is simply great.

  137. gfd January 23rd, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I notice on the Rangers roster they have only one Boras client for 4 yrs 1.3M total, ouch!
    Another team that’s just not in to Boras!

    So glad the three FA’s the Yankees are looking at for next year Lee, Mauer, and Crawford aren’t Boras clients.

  138. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Andy Stankiewicz
    January 23rd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    A comical, yet probably accurate take on what is going on with Johnny:

    http://nysubwaychatter.com/201…..my-friday/

    ******

    Reading this article now and saw the following paragraph. I heard that song playing on the Sirius Love song station thios morning. Is that some sort of sign???

    Boras: Hey Brian, it’s Scott. Johnny came to me the other day and told me he wants to be a Yankee. Remember how all he kept saying last year was how great it was to be a Yankee and how much he loved it? (“Make It Real” by the Jets starts playing in the background.) Well, he meant it.

  139. Dr Bones January 23rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    I wanna see Johnny D come crawling back on his hands & knees.
    Damon: I will work for Food.
    1.5 mil/1yr and watch him moan & groan and pull his hammy the first month back.

  140. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 January 23rd, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Andy
    That was some funny reading on the link you gave, I’m still laughing!

    Cashman needed a #4 pitcher, Yankees will miss Matsui, but can live with the other trades. Hopefully Wang signs with the Yankees.

  141. braeden January 23rd, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    spidanyc

    Damon was offered 7M remember, he rejected that amount!
    Now he gets what Cashman wants to spend, because of his demon seed agent, who is 1 taco short of a combination platter!

  142. The Dude January 23rd, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    I don’t think the money will be a problem, it’s the years. Cash doesn’t want Damon for two years. I bet the deal comes in at around 7-8 Mil for one year. Johnny has a solid year, the Yanks repeat, and Damon’s gone when we sign a younger Outfielder next year.

  143. Travis Bickle January 23rd, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    All this love for noodle armed Damon. I pray everyday that Cashbags finds A right handed hitter to plug in the outfield and not this has been who swings like a girl. Is every poster on this sight so fooled by one heads up play in the W.S.? Please LET DAMON GO. His best days are behind him.

  144. Daveinmd January 23rd, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Yeah. He only had one heads up play. He didn’t have an ops+ of 126 with 24 home runs and and 107 runs scored. Wow. Just wow.

  145. Paul Rockwood January 23rd, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    I wore my Johnny Damon shirt today so he’ll be back with the team by the end of next week! Go Johnny Go! (Not scientific method, but just as valid as to all the speculation that others are putting forth!!!)

  146. Andy Stankiewicz January 23rd, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Johnny Back!!!
    January 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Reading this article now and saw the following paragraph. I heard that song playing on the Sirius Love song station thios morning. Is that some sort of sign???

    Boras: Hey Brian, it’s Scott. Johnny came to me the other day and told me he wants to be a Yankee. Remember how all he kept saying last year was how great it was to be a Yankee and how much he loved it? (“Make It Real” by the Jets starts playing in the background.) Well, he meant it.

    *******

    I sure hope it’s a sign. I/We need Johnny in Pinstripes!

  147. Warren January 23rd, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Johnny Damon made his bed, let him lie on it.

    The only person with leverage in this non-negotiation is Cashman.

    Cashman has a MLB team and Boras does not.

  148. Marc January 24th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    For what we (fans) have to pay to go to a Yankees game, and how much we spend on Yanks gear, sign Johnny and quit this foolishness! Anything less than $9 mil/yr is fair. Don’t go getting cheap on us.

  149. george January 24th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Totally agree w/Marc, though in this market i suspect they could give Damon $6-7 million and have him feel fairly treated.

    The other OFs being mentioned -Reed Johnson, Winn, etc. – are bench players. The only ones who may be regulars are Nady – whose arm injury is high-risk – and Dye, who has been on a somewhat steep aging decline. Both of them in YS CF would make Damon look like a gold glover.

    So, Damon is in a distinctly higher class than those other players. I hope, and suspect, that the Yanks will negotoate with him as such.

  150. Bruce January 24th, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Now that the Angels have traded away Gary Matthews, I wonder if they are a team that could sign Johnny Damon. They got Abreu cheap last year. They grabbed Matsui earlier this offseason. Could they make an offer for Damon? Their current left fielder is Juan Rivera, so they don’t really need a full time left fielder, but they are light on outfielders. I sure hope it does not happen.

  151. Bob January 24th, 2010 at 4:40 am

    Although I’m defying the trend on this board, I’m totally opposed to bringing Damon back. As much as he seems like a good clubhouse guy and an entertaining interview, I cringe whenever a ball is hit in his direction. He has regressed to a very limited defender (not that he was ever great), taking tentative routes to balls and winding up to make three hop throws to the plate. He is a good hitter, but his offensive output has also declined during the second half of the season, to the point where I must wonder if his “fast-twitch” reflexes are failing fast. He did sweep 24 long balls into the “pennant-porch” but can he repeat that feat? I am very excited about seeing what Gardener can do over the course of a full season. His superior defense along with his baserunning will be more than adequate in the number nine hole, even if he only hits 250. If we absolutely mus sign a right handed hitting outfielder, re-up Nady. Even after his second rotator cuff surgery, he must be able to throw better than Damon.

  152. Juke Early January 24th, 2010 at 6:19 am

    Due to the accelerated media response to anything – sports suits in the last 5 years have become even more secretive & patronizing. Some of it is no doubt warranted, but it all smacks of what politicians have been doing for a few thousand years. While some of you here can spout fans are stupid, and at times we all can be due to passion for the team, the overriding impetus for the suits & unis is CYA.

    MLB needs to be blown up & rebuilt. Even if it means the NYY will need a few weeks to resume the King of the Hill status.

  153. m1kew January 24th, 2010 at 7:19 am

    This is from Madden … http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....nkees.html

    it rings true to me.

  154. 86w183 January 24th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    With Tejada returning to Baltimore the Orioles will probably look to deal Ty Wigginton. He’s a perfect addition for some LF, DH, fill in duty because he’s versatile and hammers LHP.

    The cost can’t be too high, I wouldn’t think.

  155. twentyeight January 24th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    I feel bad for Damon. He’s not a business man.. He’s put his blind trust in Boras who’s completely jacked him around and here we are, in late January and Johnny is just realizing his super agent effed up his late career.

    I just hope Johnny takes matters into his own hands and talks to the Yankees independently so something can be worked out. I’d love nothing more than to log on here one day soon and see that JD is back in left field.

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