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A special night with some special guests

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc on Jan 26, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Every offseason there are plenty of charity dinners and fundraisers, and they’re all for fantastic causes. There’s one going on this weekend, though, that I wanted to highlight because a) it has a ton of great benefits for Yankee fans who attend; and b) it’s right in the LoHud backyard.

On this Saturday, January 30, Bernie Williams is hosting his 8th annual dinner and auction to benefit the Hillside Food Outreach Neighbors Helping Neighbors program. The outreach helps over 700 families in Westchester and Putnam Counties who are, literally, unable to put food on the table.

Good friend Sweeny Murti from WFAN will be hosting the event which is at Greentree Country Club in New Rochelle, and Joe Girardi will be this year’s special guest. There are a variety of ticket options for people interesting in attending – including one package that gives access to a special meet-and-greet and cocktail hour with Bernie and Girardi. You will also receive an autographed jersey from Bernie.

There will be both live and silent auctions featuring a number of great prizes. I’m told one is the right to “Go to Work with Sweeny Murti” for a day, which includes having dinner with him and the rest of the media in the press dining room. One can only imagine that will go for less than the autographed Joe DiMaggio lithograph.

Anyway, if you’re interested, go here for more information and here to buy tickets online. It should be a great night for a great program.

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124 Responses to “A special night with some special guests”

  1. RayVT January 26th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    stuckey
    January 26th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    “With someone like Damon who has a large amount of data, the confidence factor is better so the deviation from his expected results would be much less.”

    Q: How are we measuring the “confidence factor”?

    The confidence factor is based on the number of samples. So someone with less than a season would be a much higher factor than someone who has played much more. Of course applying a confidence factor to the last season or portion thereof would give a tolerance to the results. (Example, a batter hits .250 in a ½ season would be much more likely to bat .220 than someone who hit .250 with 5 seasons on doing the same.

  2. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    From MLB-Rumors-R-Us

    Athletics Still Talking To Johnny Damon
    By Mike Axisa [January 26 at 4:45pm CST]
    4:45pm: Jeff Fletcher at AOL FanHouse says that Damon is unlikely to end up in Oakland. GM Billy Beane says a utility infielder is the priority now.

  3. Erin January 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Sounds like a fun event! :)

  4. whatever January 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    So the a’s can afford damon but the, cheapskate hal cant, the world has turned upside down

  5. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    GreenBeret7
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    From MLB-Rumors-R-Us

    Athletics Still Talking To Johnny Damon
    By Mike Axisa [January 26 at 4:45pm CST]
    4:45pm: Jeff Fletcher at AOL FanHouse says that Damon is unlikely to end up in Oakland. GM Billy Beane says a utility infielder is the priority now.

    ******************

    Whew. I wasn’t concerned at all :roll:

  6. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Twins landed Jim Thome

  7. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    GB -

    :lol:

    As an aside, if I could zap just one forum-oriented thing into place this coming season, it would be that whenever someone announces that there is a new thread, the person would also announce what it is about. I find it so frustrating to be in the middle of discussion and all of a sudden have to thread jump because a new thread is up!

    But that’s just me.

    ;)

  8. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    GreenBeret7
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    From MLB-Rumors-R-Us

    Athletics Still Talking To Johnny Damon
    By Mike Axisa [January 26 at 4:45pm CST]
    4:45pm: Jeff Fletcher at AOL FanHouse says that Damon is unlikely to end up in Oakland. GM Billy Beane says a utility infielder is the priority now.

    ******************

    Whew. I wasn’t concerned at all

    ————————————————————

    Nobody will ever notice that you’ve chewed your fingernails off past your elbows.b

  9. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    As an aside, if I could zap just one forum-oriented thing into place this coming season, it would be that whenever someone announces that there is a new thread, the person would also announce what it is about. I find it so frustrating to be in the middle of discussion and all of a sudden have to thread jump because a new thread is up!

    ****************

    Trisha-

    You could always scroll up to see the title of the new thread.

    I just post the arrow so people can stay on top of things. I don’t usualy go to the new thread until I notify others there is one (if it wasn’t yet posted)

    I also don’t really have time at work to click between threads

  10. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    GB -

    As an aside, if I could zap just one forum-oriented thing into place this coming season, it would be that whenever someone announces that there is a new thread, the person would also announce what it is about. I find it so frustrating to be in the middle of discussion and all of a sudden have to thread jump because a new thread is up!

    But that’s just me.

    ————————————————————

    Why? Don’t you like surprises? I wish that once a new subject goes up, it would push all of the posts over to the new subject automatically. I lose my best jokes when everybody leaves and I’m still typing.

  11. teddy January 26th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    yea how dare hal drop millions on tex,mo,posada,cc, aj

  12. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Erica, it has always driven me crazy that posters immediately jump to a new thread “just because”. I find it dizzying. That was not a criticism of you announcing the thread. In fact our official thread announcer is usually Risi!!!

    Also I am not trying to rain on your PBF parade. I really don’t feel he is worthy of coming back because I believe his defense is suspect at this point. You know how much of a mistake it is to get too attached to any player. I learned my lesson with David Wells. (I never considered him BF material but I sure loved his pitching!)

  13. Damon on his WAY ! January 26th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Johnny is just the kind of straight talkin’ dude to come back to the Yankees and simply say, “It is what it is, and I am happy to be playing again with these guys and this team”…

  14. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Trisha-

    I wasn’t offended by your Damon opinions. Everyone’s got one on this board and they aren’t shy about sharing them. I don’t like admiting this, but I admired Johnny for years even before he was a Yankee. I just liked his style and how hard he plays. I think he is an asset to any team

  15. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    GB, I always thought it was kind of a control thing with the former host – I was once chided in an email for referring to him as the pied piper and the posters as rats going off the cliff! I was told not to refer to “his” posters as rats.

  16. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Side note:

    There is nothing more awkward than the time of the night when the cleaning crew comes and vacuums the carpet around my feet as I am sitting here

  17. Erin January 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    teddy
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    yea how dare hal drop millions on tex,mo,posada,cc, aj

    **************************
    LOL

  18. Erin January 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    Side note:

    There is nothing more awkward than the time of the night when the cleaning crew comes and vacuums the carpet around my feet as I am sitting here

    ******************
    LOL They aren’t singing again, are they?

  19. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Erica, in the name of total disclosure, I will say that what soured me on Damon was his pact with the devil, Boras. The BS about four years really made me sick to my stomach. I saw him as all about team before that.

    That said, I was always impressed with how much he gave to the team and how he didn’t leave anything out on the field. When he was courting the Yanks, I hated the thought of getting him and was very vocal about it because I am a big defense kind of fan, and after watching the merry-go-round on the bases that happened at the end of Bernie’s career, I got ill thinking about Damon’s noodle arm. That and the hypocrisy I saw with him making the blatant statement about never playing for the Yankees. However, his nice personality, productiveness, and hustle won me over. They did.

    I saw some plays in the WS that he should have made in the field and did not. At least one led to runs being scored. I also knew that Girardi sat him to save his legs. So I was thinking that maybe one more season, with a team option for the second, was reasonable. At that point I was hoping that Matsui would be brought back also. Well the combination of Sui being let go and Damon deciding to play hardball with the team that took him in – especially in the light of what I consider to be his declining skills – made me think of him as I did before the Yankees signed him.

    Obviously if he does come back, he goes back to being someone else I will support wildly. At this point, I am just putting my fan vote in for his not returning.

  20. MaineYankee January 26th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    Side note:

    There is nothing more awkward than the time of the night when the cleaning crew comes and vacuums the carpet around my feet as I am sitting here

    ——————————————

    Based on past comments about foot size that must leave a big spot uncleaned. :lol:

  21. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Erin
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    Side note:

    There is nothing more awkward than the time of the night when the cleaning crew comes and vacuums the carpet around my feet as I am sitting here

    ******************
    LOL They aren’t singing again, are they?

    ********************
    No, there are more people around tonight.

    However, the second most awkward moment is when they come to empty my garbage. I never know if I am supposed to ignore them or thank them and they lean over next to me. I mean…. they are emptying my garbage. So I usually blurt out “thanks” really quickly and look away.

  22. stuckey January 26th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    “The confidence factor is based on the number of samples.”

    RayVT, the question I’m asking is “confidence factor” based on a formula with different data points factored or, or is “confidence factor” just a euphemism for “personal opinion based partly on statistical support”?

  23. gayle January 26th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Trisha-

    No offense and I am a big Damon fan BUT Damon has been like that prior to coming to the Yankees he has always been a true believer in the Boras way. Look at what he did in Boston when he was a free agent throughout the year and said how much he wanted to come back, didn’t want to leave the team, never could think about playing for the yankees etc etc.But when the money and the years came calling to new York that is where he went. You cannot fault him for that but that is just how he has always been. The problem this year is that the money well has dried up for him and no matter what he will be taking a pay cut from someone.

  24. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    trisha – OPPC forever – (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    GB, I always thought it was kind of a control thing with the former host – I was once chided in an email for referring to him as the pied piper and the posters as rats going off the cliff! I was told not to refer to “his” posters as rats.

    ————————————————————

    What a coincidense. I once said something about him like that…or maybe it was about rat droppings. something close to that.

  25. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Trisha-

    In defense of Johnny and his agent. Playing baseball is his livelihood. He has a limited number of years ahead of him and its in his best interest to get as much money as he can while he can still earn it. And let’s face it, Scott Boras may not be a nice guy but for the most part he is really good at what he does. And the players he represents are of a high caliber. Its almost a status level. I would hire him to be my agent if he handled CPAs.

  26. stuckey January 26th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    “So the a’s can afford damon but the, cheapskate hal cant, the world has turned upside down”

    This, to those who say the Yankees are “quibbling” over a few million for Damon, is your kinsman.

  27. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    I’m glad Thome got signed but he’s not going to get the AB’s he needs to get 600 HR’s.

    from traderumors

    “It’s a big step back salary-wise for Thome, who earned $13MM in 2009, but a bigger salary didn’t appear to be available elsewhere.”

    Sounds eerily familiar.

    Thome is one of the best guys in the game and I would have been happy if he was the Yanks DH but the Yanks already have enough guys striking out a ton.

    And Thome strikesout a ton and a half. He’s 2nd all time behind Reggie. Yikes.

    Speaking of, look who’s 2nd on the the career active list. And this guy doesn’t have the dingers to justify the K’s.

    Check it out. It’s good news.

    http://www.baseball-reference......reer.shtml

  28. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    gayle, you’re right. I’m easily pulled in so thought that Damon was so grateful for playing for the best team in the history of organized sports that he was going to be grateful to come back and play for the Yanks without being mercenary about it. (I mean, four years when he couldn’t even play a flippin’ full season without having to sit out games???) Leopards do not change their spots, do they.

  29. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    GreenBeret7
    January 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    Wave Your Hat
    January 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    “I wonder if there’s any statistical analysis on people that believe that statistical analysis explains everything about baseball?”
    I seriously doubt that those people actually exist, although their hypothetical existence do make excellent straw men.
    ————————————————————

    I’ll take a hitter that can knock in runs and score ‘em or a pitcher that gets outs whether the statistical analysis says he can or not. Imagine some poor slob of a manager that is stuck with a 2nd baseman that scores a hundred runs and knocks in 85, even though analysis says he can’t hit with runners on base.

    ==========================

    It is interesting that you constantly bash the use of advanced statistics, yet the logic you use to do so is so incredibly juvenile and off base. It is like talking to my 4 year old nephew about why he does not like strawberry ice cream even though he has never tried it.

  30. blake January 26th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Stuckey,

    Didn’t you agree with the post that implied that Damon and Gardner were equal players because they are both projected to have a 3 WAR next year?

    One year makes a difference because 1) it doesn’t affect their flexibility for the future 2) it gets them off the hook if Damons production were to take a nose dive.

    I agree with your view that the Yankees are good enough to win without Damon but even if he improves them only marginally, the price will likely only be marginal as well so I think its worth it.

  31. Erin January 26th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Bring Back Johnny!!!!
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    No, there are more people around tonight.

    However, the second most awkward moment is when they come to empty my garbage. I never know if I am supposed to ignore them or thank them and they lean over next to me. I mean…. they are emptying my garbage. So I usually blurt out “thanks” really quickly and look away.

    ************************
    That happened to me once! If it makes you feel any better, I did the exact same thing. Then I felt really dumb because the guy was just staring at me after I thanked him. Very awkward. And kind of creepy. LOL

  32. John Doe January 26th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Damon on his way, I have to disagree with you. Damon is definitely the type to accept the contract grudgingly and be bitter about it. The only reason he forgave the red sox was because he got his 13 from us. He is very egotistical as are most professional athletes. He talks about how there are plenty of teams that want me to come help them win a championship, etc and when he talks about himself he has an air of arrogance. I believe he would take a 60% pay cut from the same team as an insult, and am highly skeptical he would get over it.

  33. John Doe January 26th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    I still say sign him for 5-6 mil though lol

  34. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Erica, I’m a different kind of person. I’m the one who quit my job rather than compromise my standards!!!

    I’d pick through trash cans for food before I’d have Boras as my agent. Yeah, he’s very effective and has lots of cachet, right? Ask Arod about that. He almost singlehandedly torpedoed Arod’s career. And I thought it was telling that players actually quit him as their agent right after that. Jason Varitek barely got signed last year, with Boras as his agent.

    Boras’s real estate worth has gone downhill, in my estimation.

  35. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    “I’d pick through trash cans for food before I’d have Boras as my agent. Yeah, he’s very effective and has lots of cachet, right? Ask Arod about that. He almost singlehandedly torpedoed Arod’s career.”

    —————————–

    If by torpedoed his career you mean advised him to opt-out and then proceed to sign a 10 year $300 million contract, I sure hope someone torpedoes my career when I graduate.

  36. Rick January 26th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Scott Boras clients ……

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....s-cli.html

    Feeling a little lonely Johnny ?

  37. stuckey January 26th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Blake, this is why nuance is so important. Reread my post of “January 26th, 2010 at 4:56 pm”. Ask yourself if I was agreeing or using it to make a different point?

    “One year makes a difference because 1) it doesn’t affect their flexibility for the future”

    What you mean to say it is doesn’t affect (as far as you know) their flexibility for NEXT year (and beyond).

    But we already know a Mike Cameron trade for last season was nixed. So maybe going over budget NOW limits their flexibility for THIS YEAR.

    Maybe a different need or different opportunity will present itself mid-season, and going OVER budget now will limit or remove the Yankees options at taking advantage.

    Again, I continue to contend your line of thinking continues to not seriously regard the notion that Cashman may have an actual spending limit this year.

    “The price will likely only be marginal as well”

    But AGAIN, as I and others have pointed out to you, “marginal” is in the eye of the beholder. And I mean no offense, but when it comes to what YOUR view of marginal is and what the Yankees view of “marginal” is, your view is irrelevant.

    You seem to consistently fail to consider you and the Yankees might have different definitions of what “marginal” is.

  38. RayVT January 26th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    stuckey
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
    “The confidence factor is based on the number of samples.”

    There are tables that tell you which number to choose as a confidence factor. It basically gives one a ± tolerance on expected results. It isn’t opinion. LOL! But how to apply it is based on what would be considered a data point. Perhaps a snapshot data point would be a week or a month of at bats. Then figure out how many weeks/months apply (whole or partial) and look up a table of 95/95 confidence intervals to find what the “K” factor is to apply to the standard deviation of the data points.

  39. blake January 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Stuckey,

    I could say the same things about your assumptions in the budget.

    The Yankees budget is what Hal says it is. Their budget is a want, not a need as it is for other teams. They already spend more than anuone else and its not my place to tell them how to spend their money.

    However, the Yankees have the highest differential between revenue and payroll in the game so therefore their payroll is always a moving target because it can be.. They may or may not choose to sign Damon but it won’t be because they cant

  40. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    There are tables that tell you which number to choose as a confidence factor. It basically gives one a ± tolerance on expected results. It isn’t opinion. LOL! But how to apply it is based on what would be considered a data point. Perhaps a snapshot data point would be a week or a month of at bats. Then figure out how many weeks/months apply (whole or partial) and look up a table of 95/95 confidence intervals to find what the “K” factor is to apply to the standard deviation of the data points.

    ———————————————————–

    I swear if this paragraph did not contain the word “bats”?

    I would have no idea you were talking about baseball.

  41. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    let’s go yankees, you need to study harder. Arod got that contract IN SPITE OF Boras, not because of him. Warren Buffet was the key to getting that contract signed.

  42. blake January 26th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Stuckey,

    I’m not trying to be argumentative just for arguments sake..I actually agree with a lot of the things you post, just not this particular issue.

  43. m1kew January 26th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Blake (or anyone else who might know the answer to the following question) -

    Payroll is public information. Revenues must be an estimate and I have no idea what they might be. With the new stadium revenues increased but so did their expenses (including $30+ million for interest expense). My question is can you or anyone else give me some urls where I might look to piece together a P&L statement.

    To me all the statements about what the Yankees budget is overlooks what their bottom line might be. I’m sure there must be some info out there on the Net to enable a guess at whether the Yankees were profitable and, if yes, how profitable they might be. (And of course the revenues from YES must be included.)

  44. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Wow, I just took a peek at the schedule. No Baltimore weekend until September. :(

  45. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! January 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Anyway, have a great night all.

    :)

  46. David in Cal January 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    I have more confidence in Gardner’s fielding stats than his hitting stats, for the purpose of predicting next year. He has shown that he gets to an awful lot of fly balls. The batted balls don’t have a strategy; Gardner will get to just as many next year.

    His offense seems to me harder to predict. His 2009 was only a partial season with considerable uncertainty regarding BABIP and other variablity. Also, he won’t be the same hitter in 2010, nor will he be pitched the same. Maybe pitchers will discover a weakness that destroys his batting. OTOH, Gardner might find ways to adapt to major league pitching and greatly improve.

    In 2009 his OBP was .345. Various projection schemes predict his 2010 OBP as between .337 and .368. I wouldn’t be surprised if his 2010 OBP turns out to be as low as .315 nor if it’s as high as .385.

  47. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    “let’s go yankees, you need to study harder. Arod got that contract IN SPITE OF Boras, not because of him. Warren Buffet was the key to getting that contract signed.”

    ————————

    Yeah right…. First off, Boras advised Alex to opt-out of his contract, which many people saw as crazy. When actually it was brilliant. Who would have thought Alex could top his previous contract with Cashman supposedly vowing to move on, taking the biggest spenders out of the equation? Well, Scotty thought so and he was absolutely right.

    Second, I would be willing to bet nearly anything that Boras was behind this whole thing. He took the PR hit while Alex looked all noble for once for “crawling back to the Yankees.”

    You did not see Alex complaining when he signed off that nice fat commission to Boras….

  48. Joe from Long Island January 26th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    No Baltimore weekend until September? Boy, the shops in the Inner Harbor will be hurting.

  49. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    If Alex got his contract in spite of Boras and Scotty screwed up so bad, I wonder why Alex kept him as his agent…

  50. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    lets go yankees
    January 26th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    It is interesting that you constantly bash the use of advanced statistics, yet the logic you use to do so is so incredibly juvenile and off base. It is like talking to my 4 year old nephew about why he does not like strawberry ice cream even though he has never tried it.

    ————————————————————

    Speaking of juvenile.

    Perhaps it’s uncles like you trying to overfeed and misuse “strawberry ice cream” that turns others off of them.

    I’ve read the “advanced stats”. After watching the uncles on here misuse and distort them that turned me off. When they start giving awards and putting the players ERA+, URZ+ and other fabricated stats like that on the HOF plaques, maybe they will mean something. It’s really a shame that that’s the only thing about baseball some people know.

  51. blake January 26th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    M1kew,
    I don’t have any links to specific revenue numbers. I have read it mentioned in several different articles that the Yankees revenue to payroll differential is the highest in baseball.

    If anyone has links to confirm or discredit that statement I wouod also like to see them

  52. Fran (the original) and OPPC member January 26th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Even if Boras did mess up it is not all on him. He works for the player and Damon could have instructed him to work out a deal with the Yankees which he could have done in December for more than the supposed $2 million that is left in the budget.

  53. m January 26th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    What was the reason for Alex being mad at Boras in the first place? Supposedly opting out in the middle of the WS? Or was it opting out at all?

    If anyone thinks that Alex and Boras weren’t on the same page on the opt-out thing, they’re a newb.

    Boras took a hit for Alex’s reputation. And it probably stung Boras a bit until he took a look at his bank account balance.

    Alex would never spurn Boras. That’s like disowning your own father.

  54. Damon on his WAY ! January 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    http://www.examiner.com/x-3293.....r-to-Damon

  55. Damon on his WAY ! January 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Report; Yankees make one-year offer to Damon
    January 26, 6:39 PMNew York Yankees ExaminerBob Birge

  56. m January 26th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    So the defending NBA champions got to visit the White House yesterday.

    When do the defending World Champions get to visit the White House?

    Do the Yankees visit D.C. this year, or will they make a side trip when they play in Baltimore?

  57. Damon on his WAY ! January 26th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    hello is anybody reading this ?????????????

  58. Damon on his WAY ! January 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    JOHHNY

    DAMON

    IS

    GOING

    TO

    BE

    A

    YANKEE

    IN

    2010 !!!

  59. DT - OPPC member January 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    The Yanks will take it on the chin, blow the budget all to hell – and offer Damon 3 million instead of 2.

    Of course Yankee Stadium beers will rise to 14 bucks to make up the diff.

  60. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Personally, I think RBI’s are my favorite stat.

    RBI’s translate into Runs. That’s another big one of mine. I love those runs.

    Because Runs can turn into wins. And those are pretty important as well.

  61. pat January 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    BryanHoch Brian Cashman on Johnny Damon: “I’m not having any discussions on him. His abilities exceed the money that I have.”
    2 minutes ago from Power Twitter

  62. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Correction:

    ***UZR+*** and other

  63. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Do you think they’re trying to keep Yankees fans away? Or at least limit them? I’m going to take a look and see when Boston plays them. Because the Sox fans usually pack Camden yards, too.

  64. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    “When they start giving awards and putting the players ERA+, URZ+ and other fabricated stats like that on the HOF plaques, maybe they will mean something.”

    ————————

    Because the voting process for the MVP, CY Young, Gold Glove, and Hall of Fame has such a good reputation, especially in recent years….

    Single season awards have largely become a joke because of the idiot baseball writers voting for them based on outdated and stubborn notions. Remember all the conversations about Greinke possibly not winning the CY because he did not have enough wins?

    The Hall of Fame is not far behind in becoming a mockery also with recent inductions of guys like Jim Rice and the whole first ballot Hall of Famer nonsense

  65. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Back Johnny!!!! January 26th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    pat
    January 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    BryanHoch Brian Cashman on Johnny Damon: “I’m not having any discussions on him. His abilities exceed the money that I have.”

    ****************

    He said… ON him. NOT WITH him

    On that note- leaving work now. Later people!

  66. stuckey January 26th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    “I could say the same things about your assumptions in the budget.”

    Blake, as I’ve said before, I’m not making any assumptions about budget. I’m not advocating or opposing the signing (or not) of Damon. I’m not sure why this continues to be unclear.

    ALL I’m saying is IF the Yankees decide to pass on any player, including Damon, for $3m, $3k or $3.00, I don’t begrudge them that. For one because they spend generously already and two, given the Yankee current roster, improvements of a level a player like Damon would represent would be minimal at best.

    “However, the Yankees have the highest differential between revenue and payroll in the game so therefore their payroll is always a moving target because it can be.”

    I contend this is purely hypothesis and speculation on your part or on the parts of a writer(s) you’ve read.

    Can you demonstrate otherwise?

    And I’m not trying to win a fight, I’m trying to get you to perhaps reconsider your assumptions more critically.

  67. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    So, how it goes in Baltimore:
    Yankees are in town for T,W,Th, April 27-29
    BOSTON for the weekend April 30, May and 2 (F,S,S)

    BOSTON for the weekend, June 4,5,6 (FSS)
    Yankees (TWTH), 8,9,10
    METS for the weekend June 11,12,13(FSS)

    Yankees finally get a weekend in Baltimore, FSS, September 17, 18 and 19

  68. David in Cal January 26th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I wonder if all these Damon/Yankee rumors are hurting Damon’s chance of signing with another team. I can imagine some GM saying to himself: “Damon and the Yanks are going through a mating rite that will eventualkly result in his signing with them. So, there’s no point in wasting our time pursuring him.”

  69. pat January 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    “So the defending NBA champions got to visit the White House yesterday.”

    Good joke about that today.

    My worst nightmare just came true, there’s a Kardashian in the White House.

  70. Vito January 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    http://www.examiner.com/x-3293.....r-to-Damon

    Report; Yankees make one-year offer to Damon

    The New York Yankees apparently would like to have Johnny Damon back for the 2010 season, but only at their price.

    According to ESPN’s Buster Olney, the Yankees have offered Damon a one-year contract.. However, it would pay the 36-year-old oufielder less than a third of the $13 million he made last season. That could put the deal in the $4 million range.

    The thing is, Damon just doesn’t appear to have many other offers elsewhere (possibly Atlanta or Oakland), and he may have no choice but to accept the Yankees’ take-it-or-leave-it proposal.

    This sort of reminds you of the way the Yankees played hard ball with Andy Pettitte last offseason. Pettitte finally accepted $6 million – a lot less than the Yankees’ original offer of $10 million to come back – and his 2009 season turned out okay.

    In case you have forgotten, Pettitte was the winning pitching in each of the Yankees’ three series-clinching wins en route to their 27th World Series title last November.

    If Damon would come to his senses, he would realize the best place for him is still the Bronx. Despite his defensive limitations and weak arm, he remains an offensive force and would continue to complement Derek Jeter in the No. 2 spot in the lineup.

  71. Tom in NJ January 26th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Girardi on Damon: “I don’t see it getting done. But you never say never.”

    http://twitter.com/Ledger_Yank.....8256063157

  72. m January 26th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    pat,

    Ouch!!

    That definitely doesn’t jive with what “Damon’s on his way” just posted.

    I wonder if Cashman is punishing Damon for the leaks. :P

    Anyway, poor Nady. I know that players don’t like to take deep cuts for their old teams, but the Cubs over the Yankees? :mad: Can’t help but think that Boras steered Nady away from one team in particular.

  73. Fran (the original) and OPPC member January 26th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Doreen,

    With the Mets following the Yankees into Baltimore, New Yorkers can spend the week down there! Actually it is surprising that the Yankees only have 1 weekend there. Maybe the Orioles were tired of all of the Yankees fans invading. Didn’t they do something with tickets sales last year for Yankee games?

  74. m January 26th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Erica,

    Way to totally ignore what came after “on him”!

  75. Nick in SF in Larkspur January 26th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    “he may have no choice but to accept the Yankees’ take-it-or-leave-it proposal.”

    Can you figure out what’s wrong with that? :roll:

  76. Erin January 26th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    pat
    January 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    “So the defending NBA champions got to visit the White House yesterday.”

    Good joke about that today.

    My worst nightmare just came true, there’s a Kardashian in the White House.

    ***************************
    LOL That’s a good one!

  77. MTU January 26th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Nick-

    I see a contradiction there. ;)

  78. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    A nice article on some Yankee targets within Andy Pettitte’s reach, this coming season. He should also move into second spot in career strikeouts past Ron Guidry and less than 100 behind leader Whitey Ford.

    http://www.examiner.com/x-/x-3.....es-in-2010

  79. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Fran, yes they did. Last year, I believe if you wanted to see the Yankees to open the season, you had to buy a package of other games as well. Seems like they are definitely discouraging onslaught of Yankees fans. Although, I really don’t see why. They sure pump up the local economy, and when we were there, people seemed really well-behaved, having a great time, enjoying the Inner Harbor.

    I wouldn’t want to spend a week there, though!

    I’d consider going to see the Mets. Maybe. Maybe. Because it’s a nice getaway.

  80. blake January 26th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Stuckey,
    Ah but you are assuming. You are always assuming that the Yankees have a hard cap budget which they may or may not.

    I wouldn’t begrudge them either if they don’t sign Damon. Just because I want them to doesn’t mean I will be mad or think they are stupid of they don’t. As a fan I want them to do a lot of things, doesn’t mean they always do and doesn’t even mean that I was right to want them to.

    Because the Revenue details are private I doubt there is any concrete evidence about the statement that I made and it is speculation ill admit. However wouldn’t you guess that statement to be true yourself?

  81. Yankee Trader January 26th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    If the Yankees did offer Damon one year for 4 million, there are no clubs that will match that. If they make the World Series he’ll get a minimum of another 250K and if they win like they just did, they could break the record set in 2009 of 365K/player share. Plus his endorsement chances are better in New York.

  82. Fran (the original) and OPPC member January 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Doreen,

    I would guess that most teams want the Yankees in on weekends to boost their ticket sales, although it seems no matter what day of the week the Yankees come into a city, ticket sales increase.
    But a spring weekend Yankees series in Baltimre would have been nice.

  83. m January 26th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Knicks are on pace for 160 points at the Garden tonight.

  84. m January 26th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    YT,

    Why? GEICO’s not a regional corp. limited to the tri-state area.

  85. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Fran -

    Very true.

    I’m disappointed personally because we look forward to trying to get there and spring is best. Who knows, maybe we’ll make it in September, but it will have to be without our oldest daughter. :?

  86. Doreen January 26th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    m -

    Pretty good one. :)

  87. m January 26th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    That was mean, wasn’t it. But I couldn’t resist!

  88. Wave Your Hat January 26th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    I personally think the Yanks will be stupid if they could have signed Damon between $4-6MM and they don’t do it.

    No one here knows how the Yanks in fact calculate their budget. So anyone stating the Yanks can’t sign Damon because the Yanks have a hard budget cap is committing a fundamental logical fallacy. Maybe they do, maybe they don’t, but we don’t know what it is so we don’t know whether Damon at any price fits or doesn’t fit.

    Yhe Yanks need another guy who can play the OF full time if need be – and Damon is the last guy standing who can do that, and it looks like whatever he signs for, he will be a bargain.

  89. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day January 26th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Just tweeted by Bryan Hoch:

    Brian Cashman on Johnny Damon: “I’m not having any discussions on him. His abilities exceed the money that I have.”

  90. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day January 26th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    More from Bryan Hoch:

    NYY priority is a RH-hitting OF. “I have players that are willing to move with me when I decide to,” Cashman said.

  91. MTU January 26th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Wave-

    I think the ball is in Boras/Damon’s court.

    It’s been reported that the Yanks have offered 4 Mill.

  92. blake January 26th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Like he’s gonna tell Bryan Hoch the plan. Why haven’t you moved then Cash? Cause you’re waiting to be sure Damon isn’t going to fall n your lap.

  93. Erica - always OPPC - Bring Johnny Back!!! January 26th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    m
    January 26th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    Erica,

    Way to totally ignore what came after “on him”!
    *******************

    I may completely live in my own little happy world

  94. Boston Dave XXVII January 26th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    “Yhe Yanks need another guy who can play the OF full time if need be – and Damon is the last guy standing who can do that, and it looks like whatever he signs for, he will be a bargain.”

    —————–

    I agree.

    The market dictated that Bobby Abreu only get $5M last season. It turned out to be one heck of a bargain and he played better than quite a few players who made alot more.

    The good thing about Damon is that he is tried and tested. You know what you’re going to get. Excellent offense, a weak arm, and perhaps slightly below average coverage in LF.

    Anybody else the Yanks would sign for $3M is going to be one big question mark.

  95. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    “I have players that are willing to move with me when I decide to,”

    What does this mean?

    Is Cashman moving somewhere? And players are moving with him?

  96. Bronx Born January 26th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    GB- Just you mentioning Whitey Ford brings back such memories. He was so accountable. You always felt he was going to win.

  97. m January 26th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    “What does this mean?”

    This means that no player is bigger than the NYY (unless it’s Alex going around Cashman-lol).

  98. Wave Your Hat January 26th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    I think if there was free agency in Whitey’s time, Whitey’s agent would have been Scott Boras.

  99. Bronx Born January 26th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    RE: Threads,etc. Part of the problem with this blog structure is that it is a blog structure and not a forum structure. In a forum you can have numerous threads going at the same time, and the conversations can be ongoing. This structure just does not work with the quantity of people talking on it.

  100. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    “What does this mean?”

    This means that no player is bigger than the NYY (unless it’s Alex going around Cashman-lol).

    Really?

    Cause If Cash is seriously moving, he should call Johnny. Johnny’s got a really nice van. It’s got a bathroom and everything. I saw it on YES.

  101. Bret the Hitman January 26th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Just tweeted by Bryan Hoch:

    Brian Cashman on Johnny Damon: “I’m not having any discussions on him. His abilities exceed the money that I have.”

    NYY priority is a RH-hitting OF. “I have players that are willing to move with me when I decide to,” Cashman said.

    I think the 2nd item means Cashman is actively engaged in negotiations with OF’rs who seem eager to push forward in the process.

    If it’s a RH, it could be Dye, Reed Johnson or Marcus Thames.

  102. m January 26th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    I don’t know, the structure’s very simple and easy to follow. And Chad’s been great about giving people a heads up.

    I don’t care for chat’s or other forums that allow you to respond to individual posts. The nesting format is confusing. For a person with a limited I.Q. like me.

  103. MTU January 26th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Blake-

    Do we have another Mexican standoff with Boras/Damon and Cash ?

    JD’s options are dwindling by the day.

    Cash might like him back but at his price.

    Boras might be hoping that he can find JD a gig elswhere for an acceptable amount, or that Cash will up his offer.

    Does JD get lucky, retire, or accept an offer from Cash.

    Cash has numerous options so waiting doesn’t hurt him as much as it might hurt JD. He has leverage.

    Right now JD’s only known option is retirement.

    Hope it ends soon and to both parties satisfaction.

  104. Joe from Long Island January 26th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Looks like Damon and Brian Cashman are playing chicken, otherwise known as negotiating.

    Damon knows he brings more to the table than Reed Johnson, Marcus Thames, and the like. Cash knows Damon’s options grow more limited by the day. I think Cash has the upper hand, as even if Damon signs elsewhere, Cash still has options.

    It’s a matter of who blinks first.

  105. blake January 26th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    I think it means he has a couple of guys on stand by in case Damon won’t lower his demands and to use as leverage against Boras.

  106. Bret the Hitman January 26th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Damon does not bring more to the table than Jermain Dye. Dye hit 27 HR’s last year.

  107. Wave Your Hat January 26th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    I agree with Mel. It’s not so hard to follow conversations here – and scrolling through the comments you often find ones that are interesting that you wouldn’t have checked in a forum structure.

  108. MTU January 26th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Brett-

    What kind of offer nets Dye ?

  109. Bronx Jeers January 26th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    “JD’s options are dwindling by the day.”

    And so are the Yankees’!

  110. Wave Your Hat January 26th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Both Damon and Cashman have leverage. Damon has the talent, and Cashman has the money. They’ll go back and forth and pretend to be willing to retire or to sign Reed Johnson, but at the end of the day they’ll kiss and make up. Somewhere between $4MM and %7MM, with a base on the lower side and incentives toward the higher side, a la Nady.

  111. Joe from Long Island January 26th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    A possible advantage that Damon has over Dye is that Damon has a swing made for the Stadium and RF.

    Didn’t Cash say to Chad the other day that he had not had any discussions with Dye/Dye’s agent?

    Whether it’s Jermaine Dye, or one of the other OFs out there, Cash’s point that he wants made in the media is that he has several options. It’s part of the negotiating process.

  112. Bret the Hitman January 26th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Dye will get slightly more money guaranteed than Nady did, so anywhere from 3.5- 4 mil base.

    For nearly 30 HR’s – that’s a bargain.

  113. lets go yankees January 26th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    “Damon does not bring more to the table than Jermain Dye. Dye hit 27 HR’s last year.”

    ————————

    Dye is also a horrific OF and put up this slash line in the second half of last season:

    .179 AVG/.293 OBP/.297 SLG/.590 OPS

  114. blake January 26th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    MTU,
    I think there’s a reason so many people around baseball just keep assuming that Damon is going back to the Yankees.

    I have a feeling they will work something out.. Damon is running out of choices and while Cash has options, Damon is the best one and in NY proven.

  115. Joe from Long Island January 26th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    That slash line may be why Cash isn’t talking with Dye/Dye’s agent.

  116. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day January 26th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Bret, I agree about the interpretation of Cash’s 2nd comment……I think he basically gave up on Damon awhile ago, even if it’s true (which it appears that it is not) that he was talking to him. I just don’t see any indication that Damon is going to be willing to take a major pay cut by the Yankees. I suspect he’ll end up with the A’s, in that hideous hitter’s park.

  117. stuckey January 26th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    “Ah but you are assuming. You are always assuming that the Yankees have a hard cap budget which they may or may not.”

    I’m absolutely not and never have. This is why you think we’ve been disagreeing over something we haven’t been disagreeing over.

    My argument is conditional, on the assumption that the Yankees have a budget. Doesn’t mean I think they do or should, it means in a discussion I can argue from the perspective that they do and shape my arguments according to that condition.

    “I wouldn’t begrudge them either if they don’t sign Damon.”

    You said you’d be irritated if they quibbled over a few million.

    Not trying to twist your words. I just don’t know how to interpret that statement anyway but literally.

    “Because the Revenue details are private I doubt there is any concrete evidence about the statement that I made and it is speculation ill admit. However wouldn’t you guess that statement to be true yourself?”

    No, I wouldn’t necessarily make that statement.

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/20.....34613.html

    As of April of 2009 Forbes had the Yankees posting operating losses of $190m over the last 6 seasons.

    Now I know the standard answer to his is it doesn’t count the YES Network, but we know that isn’t the sole property of the organization and it’s still a relatively new operation in terms of television networks. I have NO idea if the Yankees receive an operating profit on YES and I doubt anyone else does either.

    I don’t know where this notion that the Yankees are this money-making machine came from, and I can’t speak definitively one way or another, but I think there is enough data out there to suggest ANYONE should reconsider their assumptions on this matter.

  118. blake January 26th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Damon is like Willie Mays defensively out there compared to Dye.

  119. Chad Jennings January 26th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    New post with comments from Girardi.

  120. m1kew January 26th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Lost in all this speculation about Damon and where he ends up and at what value is the really good job Hideki Matsui and Nick Johnson (and their respective agents) did in reading the market correctly and took what they could before their value deteriorated.

  121. Joe from Long Island January 26th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    stuckey – you’re right in that the team’s profit and loss statement is separate from the YES network; it’s entirely possible that the team by itself lost money over the past few years, and that the Steinbrenners made a lot more by the TV revenues.

    However, the new factor is the new ballpark. I’ve read where the revenues from that, in 2009, wildly exceeded estimates, and more than doubled what the team brought in.

    Because the Yankees are privately held, there’s no way we will ever know the real numbers. But I have to think that the Steinbrenner family is making a ton of money off the Yankees brand.

    Betsy – the disadvantage for Damon going to Oakland and playing in that place is that his numbers will take a hit, and that will put him in a worse negotiating position for next off-season.

  122. GreenBeret7 January 26th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

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    January 26th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
    GB- Just you mentioning Whitey Ford brings back such memories. He was so accountable. You always felt he was going to win.

    ————————————————————

    Ford was a pleasure to watch pitch. Koufax was raw power. Ford and Spahn were just fun to watch, mainly, I think, because that didn’t have anything that set them apart from normal people. Both were on the smallish side and did nothing but win. In the dictionary, there are two pictures beside the phrase crafty lefty….Ford and Spahn. Ford may have had 300 wins, except that Stengel seldom pitched him against the bad teams. He was paired with the best pitchers in the AL….Feller, Lemon, Pierce, Lary, Chance, Parnell, Bunning, Wynn. The most starts he ever had for Stengel was 33 when most other top starters were getting 38-41. He had 60 relief appearances. Warren Spahn was 25 when he got his first ML win…ended up with 363. Spahn was a war hero and like others, lost 3 years or more due to the war. He was special even at age 43.

  123. Nick in SF in Larkspur January 26th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    JERRY: Lemme see if I understand this. In other words, you held out for… less money?

    GEORGE: I was wrong, you were right.

    JERRY: You know, the basic idea of negotiation, as I understand it, is to get your price to go up.

    GEORGE: You’re smart, I’m dumb.

    JERRY: You know, this is how they negotiate in the bizarro world.

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