Saturday Night Lights
Although the Fox network normally runs its Saturday package of games in the afternoon, there will be (at least) two primetime games on Saturday this year and – not surprisingly – the Yankees will be part of both of them.
On May 22 (when the Yankees play the Mets) and on June 26 (when they play the Dodgers), Fox will show regional coverage with the Yankees games being the top bill in both cases.
Truthfully, I’ve never quite understood why Fox doesn’t just put all of its games in primtime. Saturday programming is notoriously weak, so why not give baseball a shot?
(Personal aside: As a writer, I’ve always hated 4 p.m. games anyway — they’re just early enough to make it impossible to do much before heading to the park and just late enough that it’s tough to make plans to do anything after you’re done working.)





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would be better if torre was actually returning to the bronx and not the yankees headed to LA.
Truthfully, I’ve never quite understood why Fox doesn’t just put all of its games in primtime. Saturday programming is notoriously weak, so why not give baseball a shot?
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I agree. I’ve always wished there were more primetime games on Saturdays.
When are the kids supposed to go to the games if not on saturday afternoon?
Chris from NJ
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
When are the kids supposed to go to the games if not on saturday afternoon?
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There’s no school on Sundays. They can stay up a little later on Saturdays.
People don’t usually stay home on Saturday nights. That’s the one time a week thatthey can go out and not worry about having just gotten off of work or having to go to work the next day. Saturday nights is not exactly TV night in America.
Chris from NJ
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
When are the kids supposed to go to the games if not on saturday afternoon?
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There are plenty of other games on Saturday afternoons at 1. This only refers to the ones carried by FOX
GreenBeret7
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
People don’t usually stay home on Saturday nights. That’s the one time a week thatthey can go out and not worry about having just gotten off of work or having to go to work the next day. Saturday nights is not exactly TV night in America.
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Saturday night TV worked well for the Golden Girls. Weren’t they your peers??
Chris from NJ February 3rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
When are the kids supposed to go to the games if not on saturday afternoon?
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When I was a youngster, day games and doubleheaders were the norm and this is one of the major contributing reasons why the sport grew well with us. Late games are robbing the very young of a sport rich in tradition.
Late games during the World Series will in the end rob the sport of our children and grandchildren.
total agreement – when I come to NYC for visits the 4 pm start makes it tough to go to games and go back to Maryland the same day and also if I stay onve in NYC it is tough to do anything else in the early PM and makes you do dinner later or if the game runs long miss doing a show that PM – why can’t Fox do Sat games at 1PM
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Saturday night TV worked well for the Golden Girls.
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I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
Erin
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Saturday night TV worked well for the Golden Girls.
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I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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WE carries them, so does the Hallmark Channel
My Tv knowledge is just disgusting sometimes
Good news !
Joba will report early in Tampa …..
http://bostonherald.com/sports.....id=1230280
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
WE carries them, so does the Hallmark Channel
My Tv knowledge is just disgusting sometimes
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Thanks! How did I not know this??? I’m slacking.
I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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Erin, every night on hallmark, two hours (4 episodes).
There is just something about Saturday afternoon games that I’ve always loved.
tex’s friend
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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Erin, every night on hallmark, two hours (4 episodes).
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thank you!
Erin
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Saturday night TV worked well for the Golden Girls.
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I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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Golden Girls is a prime example of Mindless TV
There is just something about Saturday afternoon games that I’ve always loved
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As a yankee fan, i hated saturday afternoon. i feel like we always lost those games and it was usually really ugly too.
Frank from Chatham NJ
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Golden Girls is a prime example of Mindless TV
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You say that like its a bad thing?? It was a show about 4 dirty old ladies. Whats not to love?????
Does everything in life or on TV have to teach a lesson or mean anything? Why can’t certain things just be for entertainmemt?
Frank from Chatham NJ
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Golden Girls is a prime example of Mindless TV
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So?
GB i agree. Sitcoms are so much better than reality tv anyway. Producers are just getting lazy and ‘reality’ shows require very little planning.
Erica, never really watched “Golden Girls” that much. I wasn’t in the States that often during their run, so, a lot of shows and movies I’ve never seen.
Erin -
If you have the Hallmark channel, the run Golden Girls all the time, but usually starting at 10 or 11 p.m.
There is another network, WE, that runs them a bit earlier in the evenings, too.
(I have comcast cable.)
If we were to go out at night, it would be a Saturday. But we don’t have the ability to go out most Saturday nights. So, one would thing with 159,378,208,111 stations there would be SOMETHING of value on television on a Saturday evening. Or even a movie on one of the movie networks. I’m not asking for first-run stuff here; I’d settle for reruns of old classic movies or tv shows. Hey, even the old B&W stuff would be a diversion on a Saturday night.
But no. We get George Lopez marathons and C-movies or adolescent drivel. Adolescents are out. Their parents are home waiting for the phone call, no?????
(Yes, I could rent movies. That’s not the point. With a cable bill that I think is ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to settle for drek. And the on-demand stuff is a joke.)
Rant over.
So an occasional Saturday night baseball game is nice. However, I do think it’s nice if you’re gonna take the famiily out to a ballgame, to be able to do it on a beautiful sunny Saturday afternoon. Isn’t that what y’all think of when you think of going to your first game?
Doreen – Ain’t it Just “Grand”?
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Erin -
If you have the Hallmark channel, the run Golden Girls all the time, but usually starting at 10 or 11 p.m.
There is another network, WE, that runs them a bit earlier in the evenings, too.
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I get both Hallmark and WE, so I’m in luck!!
tex’s friend -
Reality shows are also a lot cheaper for the networks to produce.
I’ll take maindless TV over inane dreck anyday.
Jersey Shore etc.
So an occasional Saturday night baseball game is nice. However, I do think it’s nice if you’re gonna take the famiily out to a ballgame, to be able to do it on a beautiful sunny Saturday afternoon. Isn’t that what y’all think of when you think of going to your first game?
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There are 1pm games. this is just about the fox game. even for yankee fans, 3 out of 4 weeks a month, they wont be on fox (on average), so just take the kids on one of those weekends.
GreenBeret7
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Erica, never really watched “Golden Girls” that much. I wasn’t in the States that often during their run, so, a lot of shows and movies I’ve never seen.
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You should get cracking on the reruns on WE and Hallmark then. I could watch that show over and over again.
My dad used to scream at me when I lived at home and he caught me watching it, “Haven’t you seen every episode yet???”. He didn’t get it
Unless I’m misunderstanding, the suggestion doesn’t change Saturday at 1pm games. Just a limited number of Fox games.
Not a big deal.
“Golden Girls is a prime example of Mindless TV”
There’s better examples than that. MTV is entire network committed to programming for the vapid.
I’ve been watching GG reruns lately. You know a couple of things strike me. First, I’m not really clear on their ages, but they it seems to me they look older than they’re purported to be (their characters, that is). Secondly, they seem to have an awful lot of money (the clothes????). Third, it was awfully racy for a family sitcom. Not that that is a bad thing. Not at all.
The other reruns that save me from going mad are M*A*S*H* reruns. I must have seen almost every one a dozen times, but it doesn’t matter. They never get old or dated.
Every so often, there’s a good movie on. I really ought to start reading more often.
I agree with Doreen
ANything with Mike Rowe is good stuff.
PBS shows Britcoms on Saturdays – if you are into it.
WGN shows Barney Miller – CLASSIC
Also Becker is a pretty decent show that WGN shows.
You always learn something. Like Ray-J chose Mz. Berry over Platinum so that there would be plenty of drama from the jealous hag.
“My dad used to scream at me when I lived at home and he caught me watching it, “Haven’t you seen every episode yet???”.”
All in the Family is that show for me.
BTW, mindless, yet entertaining tv, is precisely what I’m looking for on a Saturday night. I have no interest in ANY of the “reality” genre outside of American Idol and that dancing one occasionally, which I view as competition shows or talent shows (fan of Ted Mack’s Amateur hour as a young child). High School Reunion, Jersey Shore, all of that genre, really holds no interest for me. I don’t like watching people make fools of themselves.
One of the problems is I’m maxxed out on HGTV and the Food Network. How many bathroom renovations can you watch?
Frank
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
“My dad used to scream at me when I lived at home and he caught me watching it, “Haven’t you seen every episode yet???”.”
All in the Family is that show for me.
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Seinfeld
Bye-Bye Baseball.
Hello ‘drivel’.
“Seinfeld”
Well, that too.
If the Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart shows were on anywhere, I’d probably re-watch them too.
There is always History Channel if you need to get caught up on the D-Day ivasion or the Battle of Midway.
Who remembers the era of the miniseries??
there were some Great ones.
Doreen you strike me as a Thormbirds fan.
One show that’s kind of cuteis “my life as liz” on mtv.
She’s an outcast that takes on the texas high school cheerleader clique.
Hoping for a good ending on that one.
Frank
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
“Seinfeld”
Well, that too.
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LOL I think I have an addiction to Seinfeld.
WE has a Golden Girls marathon every Monday. Other days, it’s during the week from I think 5-7 pm. Hallmark airs the same episodes twice daily during the week (I forget what time it airs in the afternoon, but it’s 11-1 am on weeknights) at night. I watch it religiously, lol -I can quote that darn show.
LOL I think I have an addiction to Seinfeld.
The pilot was on this week did you catch it?
Saturday nights is not exactly TV night in America.
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GB,
Says who? There is something called cable these days and new movies come out saturday nights. My family and i look forward to those days. How do you think i say that dreadfull movie “Twilight”? I guess black and white reruns can be seen anyday of the week. BTW, id rather see b & w movies than if you paid me to watch that flick one more time. Thats saying alot.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
LOL I think I have an addiction to Seinfeld.
The pilot was on this week did you catch it?
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Of course!
Sorry Upstate. It happens quickly and I realize I’m one of the worst offenders. It just feels like the baseball talk is mostly treadmill-ish – killing time until the season starts. But I did post a couple of times on the sabermetric stuff. I tried. It’s just that there’s nothing new to say. I raved about CC two days ago. I could say the same thing today, but I don’t feel like rehashing.
My father asks me why I have to watch the show over and over again when I’ve seen them all so many times, but I keep telling him, well – you saw A Chorus Line on Broadway eight times, lol. The show is hilarious every time I see it, no matter how many times I’ve seen an episode. I can quote the Girls and, for movies, Airplane, Fletch and 9-5.
As to the Girls, Dorothy was my favorite because she was smart and sarcastic.
I bet Swish watches Golden Girls.
did you know there is a real place named St. Olaf, Minnesota?
Men of a Certain Age is a good show – FWIW.
Doreen, you have no need to apologize. If someone doesn’t want to partake in the conversation, he doesn’t have to. This is a community where we enjoy hanging out with each other; it’s no one’s job to be the Yankee police.
So…….. Joba vs. Phil??? hahahahaha.
“I can quote the Girls and, for movies, Airplane, Fletch and 9-5.”
Surely, you can’t be serious.
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
As to the Girls, Dorothy was my favorite because she was smart and sarcastic.
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Dorothy was my favorite too
Variety is the spice of life.
Betsy -
Thanks.
But, I feel like I do tend to latch on to the off-topic stuff maybe a little too much.
Yes, Tex’s Friend – I always wondered if they got annoyed at being made fun of.
I love All in the Family; it’s amazing what Norman Lear got away with. I never really watched Mary Tyler Moore show nor do I have any desire, but probably the funniest episode of any show I’ve ever seen was the Chuckles the Clown episode. I also love I Love Lucy – Hallmark is showing a marathon on 2/6 and, I think, 2/7
Bye-Bye Baseball.
Hello ‘drivel’.
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Yeah, like Damon talk isnt drivel. Feel free to bring out a fresh new baseball subject if youd like. We’ll follow, i promise.
Sometimes, we need a break from talking about Johnny Damon and who should be the Yankees 5th starter.
Doreen, you don’t…..If Sam/Chad/Josh have a problem with it, they’d let us know…..but they never would. I don’t know why some people are so freaking uptight.
Uncle Ellsworth -
Tried watching that last week. I’ll have to give it another shot. I’d heard it was good, but for some reason I didn’t get into the episode. It was where the guy got turned down by the Big Brother organization.
“If the Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart shows were on anywhere, I’d probably re-watch them too.”
Voila.
http://www.hulu.com/browse/alphabetical/episode
Erin, you too? LOL I loved Dorothy and Stan – what a relationship. I always loved the smart one on shows – Dorothy, the Professor on Gilligan’s Island, etc…..
anyone ever laugh everytime bea arthur and estelle getty were on together, thinking how could a woman who was no more than 4′8” have a daughter who is over 6′???
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
I never really watched Mary Tyler Moore show nor do I have any desire, but probably the funniest episode of any show I’ve ever seen was the Chuckles the Clown episode.
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If I’m remembering correctly, a few years ago TV Guide came out with their list of the 100 funniest episodes (of any show), and Chuckles the Clown was numero uno.
Doreen – Ain’t it Just “Grand”?
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Sorry Upstate. It happens quickly and I realize I’m one of the worst offenders. It just feels like the baseball talk is mostly treadmill-ish – killing time until the season starts. But I did post a couple of times on the sabermetric stuff. I tried. It’s just that there’s nothing new to say. I raved about CC two days ago. I could say the same thing today, but I don’t feel like rehashing.
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Don’t apologize Doreen. How much of the same baseball convo you can have. People can ignore us they don’t want to read about the Golden Girls
The one good thing about Sat night games is those of us outside the NYC area can see them on MLB Extra Innings. Sat day games are blacked out because Fox has the rights.
Please don’t apologize for particpating in the very aspect of this comment board that sets it apart from the rest.
These diversions from baseball glue this place together.
tex’s friend,
Nice ice(berg) breaker.
Someone linked an article in the other thread about that topic.
Seems that more than a few reporters/beat writers are penciling in Phil.
I like Joba’s attitude in the Boston Herald article linked here. (someone in the comments mentioned his horrible mechanics, are they that bad? or is it something as simple as being in condition like some here say?)
Erin
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
As to the Girls, Dorothy was my favorite because she was smart and sarcastic.
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Dorothy was my favorite too
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Dorothy was my favorite, but I think I am Rose
The one good thing about Sat night games is those of us outside the NYC area can see them on MLB Extra Innings. Sat day games are blacked out because Fox has the rights.
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Yeah but if the fox games were at night, they wouldnt have to block out the 1pm games on extra innings.
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Erin, you too? LOL I loved Dorothy and Stan – what a relationship. I always loved the smart one on shows – Dorothy, the Professor on Gilligan’s Island, etc…..
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I loved whenever Stan was on-they had incredible chemistry. One of my favorite episodes is the one where he has to spend the night because Dorothy’s uncle is visiting and thinks they’re still married.
I LOVE the Bob Newhart show – I have the first 3 seasons on DVD. I keep thinking of Bill Daily as Roger from I Dream of Jeannie, though,lol.
that’s too bad with the Negro Leagues Museum. maybe the hall of fame should step in too and give them some support.
i watched a really good documentary on golf channel about the United Golf Association which was the equivalent for african american golfers to the Negro Baseball league. in golf there was a caucasian only clause as late as 1960.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports.....tary_N.htm
there is still a lot of work to do in this regard for equal opportunity in sports.
i’m going to use this as a segway back to our sabermetric discussion because i believe that sabermetrics has inadvertently displaced a lot of ex players of color who would have front office jobs.
why do i believe this?
a little back ground. gms in the past often came from the pool of ex players and because baseball was white only these former player gms were all white . as time went on after jackie robinson the player pool became diverse.
ex players of color started looking for gm jobs. they were told that they lacked the experience that some of the white gm candidates had because blacks were new to the game.
ex players like dave stewart started the process of working their way up by being assistant gms, minor league directors like david wilder, and other front office positions.
right about the time the first wave of ex players of color were ready to step into gm positions, the trend of sabermetrics appeared.
someone like stewart was bumped for riccardi, wilder interviewed for thr red sox job , but it went to theo. right down the line sabertically inclined young white often ivy league trained candidates were getting the jobs.
so now that ex players of color finally had the front office experience, the rules of the game changed again, and they were again on the outside looking in.
i had a long series of emails 4-5 years ago with gary gillette when he was at espn. gary was also an influential SABR member. SABR being the main sabermetric organization at that time.
we butted heads at first when i basically was saying sabermetrics was inadvertent racism in that white ivy league guys were replacing ex players of color for gm jobs.
gary has impeccable credentials being a long time NAACP member and naturally he was offended.
but he agreed to go to the Sabr annual convention and count people of color who were members. out of about a thousand people he came up with about three.
from that point on we had productive back and forth dialog , he didn’t fit my stereotype of a sabermetrician and i told him he has my respect for what he was doing. at the same time he saw the problem in his sabermetric community.
it’s almost all white. it’s not an easy fix. how do you get more people of color into statisical analysis. he thought of doing inner city workshops in detroit where he lived.i don’t know what happened with that and lost touch with him over the years .
bottom line, there is still very little diversity in the sabermetric community.
why is this a problem?
the answer is the sabermetric community has obvious power within baseball, and because it’s not diverse, it will carry it’s cultural biases into the game
Someone linked an article in the other thread about that topic.
Seems that more than a few reporters/beat writers are penciling in Phil.
I like Joba’s attitude in the Boston Herald article linked here. (someone in the comments mentioned his horrible mechanics, are they that bad? or is it something as simple as being in condition like some here say?)
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All i can say about this before getting back to the GG discussion is if they wasted all that time with joba rules last year to put him back in the pen, then that was a huge mistake i hope doesnt ruin him this year and beyond. If they move him back to the pen, they are telling him thats where he stays until he takes over for Rivera when/if he retires ever.
GB7 or anyone else thats interested. I watched The Hurt Locker over the weekend and it was really good. I never heard of the movie until i heard it was up for some awards.
S.o.S.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
GB7 or anyone else thats interested. I watched The Hurt Locker over the weekend and it was really good. I never heard of the movie until i heard it was up for some awards.
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I have to see that. I’m slacking-I’ve only seen one movie that’s up for Best Picture.
“but probably the funniest episode of any show I’ve ever seen was the Chuckles the Clown episode”
Chuckles the Clown and the Barney Miller episode where they ate the marijuana-laced brownies might be the two best episodes of any show I’ve watched.
Erin, I think you’re right.
I think I’m a combo of Dorothy and Rose. I like to think I’m intelligent, I know I’m sarcastic and at times I am silly, naive and rather dumb.
Tex, Sophia must have had a difficult delivery, lol. One thing that bothered me was that every time they mentioned Phil, the brother, Dorothy would say “my brother, Phil” or Sophia would say “your brother, Phil”. What, we’re not smart enough to remember who he is?
“Does everything in life or on TV have to teach a lesson or mean anything? Why can’t certain things just be for entertainmemt?”
I gots 4-bits to anyone who can correctly summarize how this comment relates to last night’s debate…
I would tend to agree Tex. But if a starter goes down, its easier to replace someone in the pen and slot Joba in that starting role instead of the other way around. I still think he sees some starting action this season, even if he loses his spot.
“Tried watching that last week. I’ll have to give it another shot. I’d heard it was good, but for some reason I didn’t get into the episode. It was where the guy got turned down by the Big Brother organization.”
That was not the best of them, give it another try.
Think of it as “40something”
Frank, I may be inspired to watch the Chuckles episode tonight; Gavin McLeod’s character (I forget his name) had some great lines.
Taxi had some hilarious episodes, too: Jim and “what is a yellow light” for one.
Doreen – Ain’t it Just “Grand”?
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Sorry Upstate. It happens quickly and I realize I’m one of the worst offenders. It just feels like the baseball talk is mostly treadmill-ish – killing time until the season starts. But I did post a couple of times on the sabermetric stuff. I tried. It’s just that there’s nothing new to say. I raved about CC two days ago. I could say the same thing today, but I don’t feel like rehashing.
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Doreen:
No need to apologize…since alot of people work during the day & get very few chances to get on this site during those times – it’s a disappointment to get GG stuff.
It was a comment – no different than the other comments.
Again – no need to apologize at all….just a comment as to direction again.
Even MET crap would be better, though.
Doreen – Ain’t it Just “Grand”?
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
BTW, mindless, yet entertaining tv, is precisely what I’m looking for on a Saturday night. I have no interest in ANY of the “reality” genre outside of American Idol and that dancing one occasionally, which I view as competition shows or talent shows (fan of Ted Mack’s Amateur hour as a young child
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Arthur Godfrey’s Talent scouts…made Pat Boone and Patsy Cline the top names of the late ’50s. Ted Mack gave Ann-Margret her start. Back in the early ’60s, a country show named Jimmy Dean Show gave Jim Hensen’s Muppets their start by having Rowf playing the piano while J. Dean sang songs with Roy Clark. Now, all Dean does is sell sausage.
Sam, do you really have trouble finding something fun to do in NYC on a Saturday night at midnight?
Tex, Sophia must have had a difficult delivery, lol. One thing that bothered me was that every time they mentioned Phil, the brother, Dorothy would say “my brother, Phil” or Sophia would say “your brother, Phil”. What, we’re not smart enough to remember who he is?
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I HATED THAT!
How bout Sophia vs. Mama Celeste?
Hurt Locker was really good SoS
Up is good too
I watched Funny People too which was very good.
District 9 very good as well.
tex’s friend,
Ideally, both Joba and Phil would be in the rotation. If I had to choose one for the pen and the other for the rotation, I would go Phil to the rotation and Joba in the bullpen.
tex’s friend
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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I HATED THAT!
How bout Sophia vs. Mama Celeste?
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How about Sophia and Pablo Picasso. LOL
“the answer is the sabermetric community has obvious power within baseball, and because it’s not diverse, it will carry it’s cultural biases into the game”
Randy, after that, I’d find it genuinely perplexing if you weren’t ready to acknowledge that your problem is not with sabermetrics themselves but PEOPLE who advocate and advance their use…
ok baseball talk. someone earlier (Sam?) talked about the 1-2 playoff punch the yankees always wanted when talking about trading mid season for Brandon Webb? Is that a lot better than the CC-AJ 1-2? Dont really know how webb would be in the AL East, but we do know AJ has the experience.
2011 when that 1-2-3 is CC-Lee-AJ, that will be a force.
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
One thing that bothered me was that every time they mentioned Phil, the brother, Dorothy would say “my brother, Phil” or Sophia would say “your brother, Phil”. What, we’re not smart enough to remember who he is?
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LOL That used to drive me nuts. They could also never keep straight how many kids Blanche had. It seemed to be different every time.
Someone who goes to the University of Miami told me Alex and Jorge have been working out there together this off season.
Does Jorge live in Miami?
What’s the big deal? There is no baseball talk to discuss.
If folks in the community want to talk about something else, I don’t see the harm.
Unless of course you want to whine about why the Yankees don’t have a 400 million dollar payroll to fulfill all your needs.
Mindless chats are better than the constant rehash of rehash… until ST and then GG will be history.
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:25 pm
tex’s friend
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
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I HATED THAT!
How bout Sophia vs. Mama Celeste?
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How about Sophia and Pablo Picasso. LOL
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My favorite was Sophia and Winston Churchill
Betsy… Murray.
Ideally, both Joba and Phil would be in the rotation. If I had to choose one for the pen and the other for the rotation, I would go Phil to the rotation and Joba in the bullpen.
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Ideally yes, however, they spent all this time building joba up, just to throw him back in the pen?
My feeling is that the 5th spot is his to lose in spring training, and the only way he loses it is if Phil dominates March.
I dont think anyone really things Gaudin, Mitre and Aceves have a chance to get that spot. Gaudin and Aceves will be in the pen and the loser of Hughes vs. Joba (Should just book them in a cage match at WrestleMania and figure it out that way).
LOL That used to drive me nuts. They could also never keep straight how many kids Blanche had. It seemed to be different every time.
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I loved when Dorothy got Mario Lopez deported. Wish that was real life.
Tex, if I recall correctly, Dorothy/Rose/Blanche all picked Mama Celeste’s pizza over Sophia’s, lol.
Erin, also Dorothy’s son’s Michael’s age. The first time he showed up, he was twenty nine or something. Next time, he was 24 ……
As to Phil/Joba, I’m sure there won’t be any stories on him because he’s not in NY, but Phil always shows up to ST early and always shows up in good shape. As motivated as Joba may be, I’m sure Phil is equally so.
Pat,
No but, he spends a lot of time there.
My nephew has also been working out a UM (caught a bullpen yesterday) and he sees them all the time.
Said Alex looks great and is moving around like he did prior to the hip injury.
“rehash of rehash” sounds like my lunch.
I assume the original hash is made from the dead horse which daily gets beaten here.
How about Sophia and Charles De Gaulle? Sophia also apparently attended the Yalta Conference (fka Rendezvous with Sophia).
tex’s friend
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
LOL That used to drive me nuts. They could also never keep straight how many kids Blanche had. It seemed to be different every time.
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I loved when Dorothy got Mario Lopez deported. Wish that was real life.
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LOL Every time I see that one, I’m like “What’s Slater doing on The Golden Girls?”
Prediction for A-Rod in 2010.
.305/46/124
When I think of Fox Saturday Baseball, all I can think about is how “terrible” their A announcers are.
Joe Buck and McCarver……..oh boy! The suits love them, but how many baseball fans actually appreciate their input during the games?
Saturday May 22nd??
Think Damon will have a deal by then??
Betsy,
Lol, this is from the article linked above:
Chamberlain, looking forward to attacking the season free of any version of the Joba Rules, said he was preparing to take “the bull by the horns,” in the competition.
“I hope they’re ready because I worked my tail off to get where I’m at and I hope they did the same,” Chamberlain said.
How about Rose writing a letter to Gorbachev and getting a response (he thought she was a kid)? This was based on Samantha Smith’s story – she was a 10 year old girl who wrote to Gorbache and she got to go to Moscow with her parents. Unfortunately she was killed in a plane crash when she was 13. I remember this because at the time, she was on a show called Lime Street with Robert Wagner.
Blanche dated Tony Bennett and at one time apparently could have had Andy Griffith!
I would laugh if Damon ended up back on the Yankees on a one year deal for 500K.
M, thanks! It’s too bad it look last year to motivate Joba…….personally, I’m obviously rooting for Phil, but I don’t see it happening.
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Erin, also Dorothy’s son’s Michael’s age. The first time he showed up, he was twenty nine or something. Next time, he was 24 ……
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You’re right-I forgot all about that!
That’s great news about Alex
Another reason to hate the fox network!
some idiot on mlb network said damon is a perfect fit for the tigers. REALLY!?!?!?!
is it the fact they had to dump granderson for salary or the fact that there is no way most of damon’s deck homers are more than popups to right field in detroit?
yeah a grrrrrrrreat fit.
Warning Track Power
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
When I think of Fox Saturday Baseball, all I can think about is how “terrible” their A announcers are.
Joe Buck and McCarver……..oh boy!
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Ugh…don’t remind me! lol
U.E.,
Watched up as well. One of the best cartoons iv seen. Very good. Have to go with Monsters inc. still.
Joe Buck and McCarver……..oh boy! The suits love them, but how many baseball fans actually appreciate their input during the games?
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Until the world series i never really noticed, but it was AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL during the world series. I mean there was almost contempt in their voices for the Yankees.
I think they should make it so the teams in the world series pick the announcers. yankees home games get ours (kay/singleton or something), and whoever comes from the national leagues gets theres.
this would only be a problem if the white sox or tampa made the world series. that would be a disaster. He GONNNNNNNE…
Erin
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Erin, also Dorothy’s son’s Michael’s age. The first time he showed up, he was twenty nine or something. Next time, he was 24 ……
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You’re right-I forgot all about that!
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It drove me crazy that Dorothy got knocked up so she had to get married. And she was married for 37 years, however she only had two kids and they were in their 20s
Erica – always OPPC – Is done with Brian Cashman!
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:39 pm
It drove me crazy that Dorothy got knocked up so she had to get married. And she was married for 37 years, however she only had two kids and they were in their 20s
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Continuity was not one of its strong points. LOL
Erica, remember that when Dorothy was young, it was the 50’s – she really had no choice but to get married. LOL You’re right, though – kids should have been in their 30’s.
Al Michaels & Bob Costas are 2 baseball announcers that should be on Fox.
I know that is wishful thinking, but those 2 would be perfect.
Nobody better in the business today.
Hmmm seems like
Golden Girls had some continuity issues – that would drive me NUTS if I was a fan.
Seinfeld (mostly) was great at keeping their history straight.
Tex’s Friend:
Tigers do need someone at the top of their order, so Damon fits the bill in that sense. People seem to be suggesting he can’t hit outside of the Bronx, which simply isn’t the case. The two Yankee Stadims helped his slugging %age, but in his four years as a Yankee he had more hits and a better batting average on the road than he did at home. He’s not going to crack 20+ homers as a Tiger, but he can still be an effective top of the order guy.
Bigger concern would be how he’d fare defensively.
Any “This Old House” Fans out there? New project looks like a lot of “fun”.
I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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Erin, every night on hallmark, two hours (4 episodes).
Thank you for being my friend.
Moorad Finds Adrian Gonzalez Extension Unlikely
By Tim Dierkes [February 3 at 2:36pm CST]
Padres CEO Jeff Moorad stated the obvious yesterday regarding first baseman Adrian Gonzalez. Tim Sullivan of the San Diego Union-Tribune has the quote:
“While I’d be thrilled to have him part of the organization for the long term, the early signals indicate his cost will be greater than our ability to pay.”
Gonzalez’s agent John Boggs agreed, and explained that he expects a trade:
“The feeling we’re getting is more than likely (the Padres) are going to have to trade Adrian because (they) can’t afford him.”
These quotes are far from groundbreaking, so consider this your official Gonzalez Trade Prediction post. Tell us the acquiring team and players given up. Keep in mind that at $10.25MM over the next two years, any team willing to surrender the right players could acquire Gonzalez. Given their first base incumbents, though, the Cardinals, Brewers, Phillies, Reds, Yankees, and Twins appear unlikely.
Uncle Ellsworth (Expert textpert choking smokers, don’t you think the joker laughs at you)
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Hmmm seems like
Golden Girls had some continuity issues – that would drive me NUTS if I was a fan.
Seinfeld (mostly) was great at keeping their history straight.
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You’re right. Seinfeld did have a few memory lapses, but they were pretty good overall about continuity.
JohnC
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:48 pm
I love The Golden Girls. They used to play the reruns all the time, and now I can’t find them anymore.
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Erin, every night on hallmark, two hours (4 episodes).
Thank you for being my friend.
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LOL Thank you for being a friend and telling me!
Personally, I wish they would just go back to the 1:20pm starts. Afternoon baseball is becoming more and more of a rarity. Pretty soon, all Sunday games will move to prime time as well.
Pretty sure the Posadas own a home in Miami and Laura mentioned the kids go to school there when one of those entertainment shows followed her during the World Series.
I hate late afternoon and Saturday night games.
I too prefer the 1:20 starts.
This way, you can hit Dominicks on Arthur Ave. for dinner after the game and make it a complete day.
Interesting point, Randy. I’d never thought of things that way.
Nationals Monitoring Chien-Ming Wang
By Tim Dierkes [February 3 at 10:20am CST]
The Nationals are the latest team linked to free agent righty Chien-Ming Wang, tweets MLB.com’s Bill Ladson. Wang, 30 in March, had surgery to repair a torn ligament in his right shoulder capsule on July 29th of last year. On January 28th, Wang’s agent Alan Nero told ESPN’s Jayson Stark that his client is expected to “make a major-league start sometime in the first two weeks of May.” If we project Wang’s return date as May 15th, that’d be 75% of a season.
Nero told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports a week ago that he’s “anticipating a major-league offer with a substantial guarantee and substantial upside.” About six clubs have been in on Wang this winter to some extent, including the Nationals, Dodgers, Phillies, Cardinals, and Mets
SJ
Thanks.
Tony must be chomping at the bit to get started right about now.
SJ44:
Never thought of that but that is a great way to end the day. I love Dominicks! Can then stop in at Artuso’s Bakery and get Italian bread for Sunday dinner!
Does Arthur ave still have live Rabbits and chickens for sale?
And, now this. Let the non-stop chop licking begin in Boston, where they have “more future young stars than there are in heaven”…according to Gammons and Boston trolls.
“Moorad Finds Adrian Gonzalez Extension Unlikely
By Tim Dierkes [February 3 at 2:36pm CST]
Padres CEO Jeff Moorad stated the obvious yesterday regarding first baseman Adrian Gonzalez. Tim Sullivan of the San Diego Union-Tribune has the quote:
“While I’d be thrilled to have him part of the organization for the long term, the early signals indicate his cost will be greater than our ability to pay.”
Gonzalez’s agent John Boggs agreed, and explained that he expects a trade:
“The feeling we’re getting is more than likely (the Padres) are going to have to trade Adrian because (they) can’t afford him.”
These quotes are far from groundbreaking, so consider this your official Gonzalez Trade Prediction post. Tell us the acquiring team and players given up. Keep in mind that at $10.25MM over the next two years, any team willing to surrender the right players could acquire Gonzalez. Given their first base incumbents, though, the Cardinals, Brewers, Phillies, Reds, Yankees, and Twins appear unlikely.”
“Randy, after that, I’d find it genuinely perplexing if you weren’t ready to acknowledge that your problem is not with sabermetrics themselves but PEOPLE who advocate and advance their use…”
stuckey-
i have a problem with both at times. i’m not sure why you’re making the distinction between a group and it’s philosophy.
i make a distinction between statistical analysis and sabermetrics. sabermetrics is a bill james creation. i really don’t think sabermetrics is that objective. many of the ideas and opinions seem to come first and then they look for the stats second to back up their position.
that seems a bit backwards to me.
randy l.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
that’s too bad with the Negro Leagues Museum. maybe the hall of fame should step in too and give them some support.
i watched a really good documentary on golf channel about the United Golf Association which was the equivalent for african american golfers to the Negro Baseball league. in golf there was a caucasian only clause as late as 1960.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports…..tary_N.htm
there is still a lot of work to do in this regard for equal opportunity in sports.
i’m going to use this as a segway back to our sabermetric discussion because i believe that sabermetrics has inadvertently displaced a lot of ex players of color who would have front office jobs.
why do i believe this?
a little back ground. gms in the past often came from the pool of ex players and because baseball was white only these former player gms were all white . as time went on after jackie robinson the player pool became diverse.
ex players of color started looking for gm jobs. they were told that they lacked the experience that some of the white gm candidates had because blacks were new to the game.
ex players like dave stewart started the process of working their way up by being assistant gms, minor league directors like david wilder, and other front office positions.
right about the time the first wave of ex players of color were ready to step into gm positions, the trend of sabermetrics appeared.
someone like stewart was bumped for riccardi, wilder interviewed for thr red sox job , but it went to theo. right down the line sabertically inclined young white often ivy league trained candidates were getting the jobs.
so now that ex players of color finally had the front office experience, the rules of the game changed again, and they were again on the outside looking in.
i had a long series of emails 4-5 years ago with gary gillette when he was at espn. gary was also an influential SABR member. SABR being the main sabermetric organization at that time.
we butted heads at first when i basically was saying sabermetrics was inadvertent racism in that white ivy league guys were replacing ex players of color for gm jobs.
gary has impeccable credentials being a long time NAACP member and naturally he was offended.
but he agreed to go to the Sabr annual convention and count people of color who were members. out of about a thousand people he came up with about three.
from that point on we had productive back and forth dialog , he didn’t fit my stereotype of a sabermetrician and i told him he has my respect for what he was doing. at the same time he saw the problem in his sabermetric community.
it’s almost all white. it’s not an easy fix. how do you get more people of color into statisical analysis. he thought of doing inner city workshops in detroit where he lived.i don’t know what happened with that and lost touch with him over the years .
bottom line, there is still very little diversity in the sabermetric community.
why is this a problem?
the answer is the sabermetric community has obvious power within baseball, and because it’s not diverse, it will carry it’s cultural biases into the game
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very interesting
have people take a course & get a certification
it can’t be that hard if i can learn all there is too know from the internet
Warning Track Power February 3rd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
When I think of Fox Saturday Baseball, all I can think about is how “terrible” their A announcers are.
Joe Buck and McCarver……..oh boy! The suits love them, but how many baseball fans actually appreciate their input during the games?
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Ugh, me too. It generally ticks me off that so many of the famous playoff and WS memories of mine of the Yanks were called by those two idiots.
“i have a problem with both at times. i’m not sure why you’re making the distinction between a group and it’s philosophy.”
Well, for one because it assumes that this philosophy is shared by all practitioners of the art (or science, whichever you prefer).
And I’m not sure you’re correctly identifying this philosophy.
Can you define this philosophy for me?
“i make a distinction between statistical analysis and sabermetrics. sabermetrics is a bill james creation.”
What is that distinction, please?
How does one recognize the difference?
randy, leaving aside the racial angle which I have no idea about, if you are hoping for fewer quant types running teams, you are doing you know what into the wind. As teams become worth more and more, there will be increasing demand from their billionaire owners for more, not fewer, sophisticated quantitative types to run their baseball operations.
stuckey-
sabermetrics is a funny animal.
it’s not the same thing as technology. it’s not just statistical analysis.
i think it’s more of a borderline religion .
the following is from sabremetrics founder Bill James who also coined the name “sabermetrics” itself:
“We are supposed to believe that athletes are athletes not merely because they are fast, strong, quick,and well conditioned, but because there is something special inside them, this character comes to the fore in the crucible of athletic competition. they are athletes, in other words, because they are better people than the rest of us.
My attitude toward this can probably be inferred from my tone.i do not believe that athletes are better people than the rest of us,I do not believe there is any such thing as an ability to perform in clutch situations.”
this belief that clutch play doesn’t exist has always been a major belief of sabermetrics.
what does the above statement by bill james have to do with objective baseball analysis ?
it’s simply his opinion about athletes. it is about whether clutch exists. i don’t see any numbers there. i don’t see any technology.i don’t see any statistical analysis.
what i see is someone who has an opinion about something . i’ll leave it to you and others to guess why bill james was so motivated to prove in his own mind that some people weren’t better than he is.
my opinion and belief is that bill james formed an opinion that has nothing to do with objective numbers and analysis and then he formed an opinion and then looked for the numbers to back his opinion.
this is why i say sabermetrics is more of a belief system , more like a religion, than it is an objective fact based scientific endeavor.
focus on what bill james said above . read it a few times and remember it.
i think it tells a great deal about the problems with sabermetrics.
Ugh. I forgot – a Fox game on Saturday night means Buck & McCarver and I NEVER EVER watch a game with Buck & McCarver. Saturday afternoons that’s easy to accomplish. Oh, nuts!!!
Oh, the movie “Up!” What a great movie. I cried so much watching that. It was more than I expected, and so many people had seen it and recommended it and told me they didn’t expect to cry, and STILL it took me completely by surprise. I love movies like that.
Betty White is a national treasure. Her “Rose” in GG and her “Sue Ann Nivens” on the Mary Tyler Moore show couldn’t be more different. Rose is hysterical. I seriously, seriously, don’t know how the other two actresses managed to keep a straight face during some of her “stories.”
Seinfeld for me is not so good. There are episodes I love, but mostly I dread them. Like “I Love Lucy.” Some “Lucy” episodes are classic and wonderful and it doesn’t matter that you’ve seen them hundreds of times, they’ll always be funny. But sometimes, they’re just too dumb. And I get annoyed. And I get annoyed at Kramer and George all the time. And so, not fun for me. It’s like Curb Your Enthusiasm, more discomfort than funny. Husband likes “Curb;” I cringe. “The Office” is like that too, but I can stand “The Office” a little more, because it has two characters that are extremely likeable.
randy l -
Whoa! Very interesting excerpt there.
I would hope that most people who enjoy the statistical side of baseball don’t have the same agenda.
Doreen – Ain’t it Just “Grand”?
February 3rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Betty White is a national treasure. Her “Rose” in GG and her “Sue Ann Nivens” on the Mary Tyler Moore show couldn’t be more different. Rose is hysterical. I seriously, seriously, don’t know how the other two actresses managed to keep a straight face during some of her “stories.”
It’s like Curb Your Enthusiasm, more discomfort than funny. Husband likes “Curb;” I cringe. “The Office” is like that too, but I can stand “The Office” a little more, because it has two characters that are extremely likeable.
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Did you see Betty White’s speech at the SAG awards? She was a riot!
Curb and The Office are two of my favorites, especially Curb. That’s probably not a surprise considering how big a Seinfeld fan I am
As a NY’er living in Orlando, I have to buy the Extra Innings baseball package.
Unfortunately the Yankees play ALOT of 1pm Saturday games. But FOX has automatic blackouts for EVERY GAME on Saturday that starts before 7pm.
Hence it drives my crazy that I pay for a baseball package and can’t watch the Yankees on Saturdays even when FOX does not have them as the “Game of the Week”.
TBD does not get blackout rights for any games on Sundays. And baseball is too much of a regional game that I don’t care for Cubs/Cardinals or Tigers/Indians that Fox is showing. I’m not sure what braintrust thought people will watch another team if there’s is blackout. This ain’t the NFL.
Erin – Sorry if you already discussed this but did you hear about Betty White’s letter to Rue?? After Rue had a stroke Betty sent her flowers with a card that read: “I hope you die so I can be the last Golden Girl.”
Rue loved it and thought it was hysterical!! Gotta love those sharp ol’ broads…
“As teams become worth more and more, there will be increasing demand from their billionaire owners for more, not fewer, sophisticated quantitative types to run their baseball operations.”
wave your hat-
it’s a marketplace thing. after billy ball way back, i think most people thought it would be all quantitative types in all organizations by now. philadelphia won a world series by being old school. the twins are still rolling along with an old school approach.
with all the problems caused on wall street with the fancy statistical analysis that created huge losses for the billionaire owners maybe they’d like to have things be a little simpler on their baseball teams.
i don’t see sabermetrics sweeping baseball. i see it hitting a point of diminishing returns.
randy l.
February 3rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
that’s too bad with the Negro Leagues Museum. maybe the hall of fame should step in too and give them some support.
i watched a really good documentary on golf channel about the United Golf Association which was the equivalent for african american golfers to the Negro Baseball league. in golf there was a caucasian only clause as late as 1960.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports…..tary_N.htm
there is still a lot of work to do in this regard for equal opportunity in sports.
i’m going to use this as a segway back to our sabermetric discussion because i believe that sabermetrics has inadvertently displaced a lot of ex players of color who would have front office jobs.
why do i believe this?
a little back ground. gms in the past often came from the pool of ex players and because baseball was white only these former player gms were all white . as time went on after jackie robinson the player pool became diverse.
ex players of color started looking for gm jobs. they were told that they lacked the experience that some of the white gm candidates had because blacks were new to the game.
ex players like dave stewart started the process of working their way up by being assistant gms, minor league directors like david wilder, and other front office positions.
right about the time the first wave of ex players of color were ready to step into gm positions, the trend of sabermetrics appeared.
someone like stewart was bumped for riccardi, wilder interviewed for thr red sox job , but it went to theo. right down the line sabertically inclined young white often ivy league trained candidates were getting the jobs.
so now that ex players of color finally had the front office experience, the rules of the game changed again, and they were again on the outside looking in.
i had a long series of emails 4-5 years ago with gary gillette when he was at espn. gary was also an influential SABR member. SABR being the main sabermetric organization at that time.
we butted heads at first when i basically was saying sabermetrics was inadvertent racism in that white ivy league guys were replacing ex players of color for gm jobs.
gary has impeccable credentials being a long time NAACP member and naturally he was offended.
but he agreed to go to the Sabr annual convention and count people of color who were members. out of about a thousand people he came up with about three.
from that point on we had productive back and forth dialog , he didn’t fit my stereotype of a sabermetrician and i told him he has my respect for what he was doing. at the same time he saw the problem in his sabermetric community.
it’s almost all white. it’s not an easy fix. how do you get more people of color into statisical analysis. he thought of doing inner city workshops in detroit where he lived.i don’t know what happened with that and lost touch with him over the years .
bottom line, there is still very little diversity in the sabermetric community.
why is this a problem?
the answer is the sabermetric community has obvious power within baseball, and because it’s not diverse, it will carry it’s cultural biases into the game
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Too bad?
It’s not the sabermetric community’s fault that they are not “diverse”. They don’t block non-caucasians.
It’s not the owners’ fault if they want people with sabermetric knowledge.
[whoever wrote this] acts like there should be quotas for baseball management positions. It’s almost implied that there was some kind of conspiracy to keep non-caucasians out of baseball management positions. Sorry, if you want the job, get the skills the employers want you to have. Period.
Shame Spencer
February 3rd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Erin – Sorry if you already discussed this but did you hear about Betty White’s letter to Rue?? After Rue had a stroke Betty sent her flowers with a card that read: “I hope you die so I can be the last Golden Girl.”
Rue loved it and thought it was hysterical!! Gotta love those sharp ol’ broads…
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OMG, that’s a riot! I hadn’t heard that-thank you
randy-
That quote from James is taken way out of context. James tried to find evidence of innate clutch hitting ability in the data, and he couldn’t find any. (Not surprising as no one has.) The quote is his conclusion, not his starting point.
“with all the problems caused on wall street with the fancy statistical analysis that created huge losses for the billionaire owners maybe they’d like to have things be a little simpler on their baseball teams.”
No way. That fancy statistical analysis also created huge profits, don’t forget. There’s no going back, Black Swan events notwithstanding.
No Red Sox on prime time — bet they’re crying ’bout inequity in Boston.
Shame, no – lol. I don’t think Rue is doing too well; last I heard, she can’t even speak.
“I LOVE the Bob Newhart show – I have the first 3 seasons on DVD”
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betsy: you have good taste in tv and movies. seriously
KevinP February 3rd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
As a NY’er living in Orlando, I have to buy the Extra Innings baseball package.
Unfortunately the Yankees play ALOT of 1pm Saturday games. But FOX has automatic blackouts for EVERY GAME on Saturday that starts before 7pm.
Hence it drives my crazy that I pay for a baseball package and can’t watch the Yankees on Saturdays even when FOX does not have them as the “Game of the Week”.
TBD does not get blackout rights for any games on Sundays. And baseball is too much of a regional game that I don’t care for Cubs/Cardinals or Tigers/Indians that Fox is showing. I’m not sure what braintrust thought people will watch another team if there’s is blackout. This ain’t the NFL.
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I feel your pain Kevin. Same thing happens to me in Iowa. I’m guessing you get them on Fox when they do happen to be the Game of the Week though, right? They aren’t on local Fox probably 80% of the time when they are the Game of the Week because of the Cubs/Cards/Twins/White Sox/etc. Fortunately my dad got a waiver a while back so he gets Fox NY on his dish so I can at least go over to his house to watch them when they are actually one of the Games of the Week.
On a plus note, at least they allow me to watch the games on the Yankees network now when they’re on the road (save for my in-market games against the Twins/Royals/White Sox/Brewers/Cubs/Cardinals). That was a nice change the last couple years.
New post: The new guy in town
“Whoa! Very interesting excerpt there.
I would hope that most people who enjoy the statistical side of baseball don’t have the same agenda.”
doreen-
“James has written more than two dozen books devoted to baseball history and statistics. His approach, which he termed sabermetrics in reference to the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR), scientifically analyzes and studies baseball, often through the use of statistical data, in an attempt to determine why teams win and lose. In 2006″
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_James
bill james is the founder of sabermetrics. he’s the man in the movement.
i came across that qoute from james a long time ago and hand wrote it in a barnes and noble store where i was reading one of james’ books.
i’ve always kept it in mind when i think about bill james and sabermetrics.
Betsy – yes!! just google it and you’ll get about a hundred hits. Rue is having to go through therapy to get a handle on her speech again for sure, according to her partner but is apparently doing much better now. Long live the Golden Girls (and boy if we arent making a case for threaded comments I dunno what will..)
i hope joe buck isn’t in the booth for either!