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State of the Yankees: Catcher

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 08, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I leave for Tampa in eight days. Several players, including Derek Jeter, are already working out at the Yankees complex. Pitchers and catchers officially report next week. We’re almost there, everyone. Just hold tight a few more days! This is hardly a unique idea, but this seems to be a good time to take a daily look at the state of the Yankees, position by position. We’ll start behind the plate.

For the Yankees, there is no single position with more organizational depth than catcher. Four catchers made the Yankees top 8 prospects according to Baseball America, and likely big league backup Francisco Cervelli wasn’t one of them. Jorge Posada hit 22 home runs last year, Jesus Montero is one of the top hitters in the minor leagues and Gary Sanchez is very quickly opening eyes in the lower level. The state of the Yankees catchers is very good, and might be getting better.

Starter: Jorge Posada
Backup: Francisco Cervelli
Veteran insurance: Mike Rivera
Almost ready: Jesus Montero
Low rising: Austin Romine, Gary Sanchez, J.R. Murphy

A quick snapshot of the organizational depth shows Montero one step away from the big leagues. What it doesn’t show is that Romine is only a step behind. It also doesn’t leave much room for names like P.J. Pilittere (upper-level depth) and Kyle Higashioka (more lower-level talent). Unless the Yankees make a late signing, Cervelli will go into spring training as a heavy favorite to open on the big league bench, while Rivera will provide experience in Triple-A. He could be useful if the Yankees need a short-term place-filler like Kevin Cash was last season.

Worst-case scenario: Pretty much every worst-case scenario involves Posada breaking down because of age and Montero taking a step back defensively. That said, Posada hit very well and stayed pretty healthy last year (except for that May breakdown). Montero seems to be improving, not declining, behind the plate. If something were to happen to Posada early in the year, the Yankees who would probably have to lean on Cervelli and Rivera (or a new addition) to get them through until Montero is ready for the big leagues. That wouldn’t inspire a lot of confidence.

Best-case scenario: Posada repeats last year’s numbers. Cervelli plays like Jose Molina, but with a better bat. Montero is screaming for a call-up by mid-June. Romine emerges as one of the top five catching prospects in baseball. Sanchez is compared to Montero, but Murphy is fighting him for playing time. With this many names and this much talent, the best-case scenario is pretty mouth watering.

The future: Posada is signed through 2011. He’ll certainly be the regular catcher this season, and how much time he gets at designated hitter in 2011 might depend on Montero’s development. By the time Posada’s contract expires, the Yankees could have both Montero and Romine ready to play every day at the big league level.

An attempt at the complete depth chart
An educated guess, but just a guess
New York: Jorge Posada, Francisco Cervelli
Scranton: Jesus Montero, Mike Rivera, P.J. Pilittere
Trenton: Austin Romine, Kyle Anson
Tampa: Mitch Abeita, Jose Gil
Charleston: Kyle Higashioka, (maybe Jeff Farnham, I actually have no idea)
Extended: Gary Sanchez, J.R. Murphy

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184 Responses to “State of the Yankees: Catcher”

  1. 38hotdogs February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Heyman reporting the Yanks sign Marcus Thames (I’m guessing minor league deal)

  2. qwerty21 February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Yankees sign Thames, so says Heyman

  3. Ben February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/8823194575

  4. tex's friend February 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    we got our righty in the outfield. marcus thames signed with the yankees.

  5. blake February 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Missed these posts while you were gone Chad. I hope your best case scenerio becomes the reality.

  6. tex's friend February 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    if that best case becomes a reality, i see montero at dh more and romine catching everyday.

  7. blackdragon905 February 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Yankees sign Marcus Thames

    http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyma.....8823194575

  8. blake February 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Good sign if that’s true.

  9. Phil the Thrill February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Hmmm. Cervelli just has to play like Cervelli to be better than Molina at everything. Sanchez will be in the GCL most likely with JR Murphy in the Sally. I’d be astonished if they were on the same team cause Gary’s only 17. Meanwhile, Higgy will probably be splitting time with Murphy in the Sally. Gil and others will split the catching in the FSL, and in SI, we could have the very interesting catching tandem of Arcia and Taveras, both of whom can play. Kyle Perkins will probably split time with Sanchez in the GCL.

    Romine needs to start walking if he wants to be a top 5 anything.

  10. m February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Great write-up. To me, it’s always been Posada & the back up du jour. But now I can see why everyone is drooling at the catching depth.

    Posada is signed through the end of 2010, no? What happens then? I think he can still play. Perhaps as the DH/C?

  11. Tom in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Thames, per MLBTR

  12. blake February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Posada is signed through 2011

  13. m February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Doesn’t look good for Hoffman. Thames is a good no-risk signing.

  14. Carl February 8th, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Welcome back Marcus! Cashman wants his old chips back.

  15. kd February 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    yankee catchers are a real position of strength.

    maybe they can trade one for a left fielder

  16. blake February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Hopefully montero takes strides defensively this year and he and Jorge can split DH/C duties in 2011.

  17. m February 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    blake,

    That’s right. His contract went one year past Rivera, who’s contract is up at the end of ’10.

    So, how many years after this contract can Posada reasonably expect to play?

  18. Tom B February 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    hrmmm i’m pretty sure i just said i wanted that in the last thread. 2 of the prodigal sons return, nick the quick and marcus thames…

  19. Chad Jennings February 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Of course. I don’t miss this part of the job. Write a long post about the catching in the system, and then Heyman comes out with news of a Marcus Thames signing. Couldn’t he have waiting an hour or so!

    Anyway, new post. Obviously.

  20. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Montero’s development is the most interesting subplot of the season.

  21. DaSaint007 February 8th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Posada will be the primary catcher in 2010, 2011, and possibly 2012, but in decreasing numbers each year. I can see him turning over the reigns to someone in 2012 though: Montero or Romine.

    That battle will be the new Joba-Hughes battle. The difference is defining winner and loser. Will the winner be the starting catcher, or DH? Will the loser get traded? What about the other catchers behind them? Certainly some will be traded. Who?

  22. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    I don’t think we can say with certainty that Posada will be the primary catcher in 2011, let alone 2012.

  23. DaSaint007 February 8th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Unless Posada’s defensive skills deteriorates significantly this season, I think it’s reasonable to think that he’ll be the veteran starting catcher in 2011. With certainty? Too many unknowns, but unless one of those unknowns rears its head, then he should be. 2012 could be another matter, and again, all that depends on the development of the young guns like Montero, Romine, etc.

  24. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    I think Posada’s defensive skills are already pretty bad; he can’t block a pitch in the dirt to save his life. The only reason that he can continue to catch is his bat.

    But Posada, Mariano, and even Jeter are increasingly becoming outliers at their respective positions. Maybe they can each continue to do that for multiple seasons, but because they are outliers I think we should project future performance with a sufficient amount of caution.

  25. Bronx Jeers February 8th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    I’ll spare everybody the obligatory and tired “time warp-deja vu all over again” joke.

    And who or what is under Gary Sanchez?

    The Titanic.

    That’s how deep they are at catcher.

  26. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Some of these guys will end up getting traded to fill other holes.

  27. Bret the Hitman February 8th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    I can’t wait to watch Montero. I plan to see some AAA games this year.

  28. DaSaint007 February 8th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Most will get traded. The funny thing is, that the better they do, the more difficult it will be to make a decision on who to keep, which frankly is a great problem to have.

    Were I a betting man, and yesterday proves that I’m not, I’d say that Montero, Romine, and Cervelli have the best chance to stay in the organization over the next few years. The rest? We’ll be populating starting and backup positions for other clubs for years.

  29. The Damon-ator February 8th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    everyone knows that Montero isn’t cut out to be a big league catcher, his body frame, which only figures to get bigger, is already too big for a catcher. at best, he’ll be a regular dh/1b type who can spot catch. but with romine and the other guys thats ok.

  30. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    “everyone knows that Montero isn’t cut out to be a big league catcher”

    No, they don’t.

  31. Bret the Hitman February 8th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Marcus Thames’ righty bat is definitely needed on this bench. You figure Winn makes the team due to money spent on him, he’s a proven veteran bat plus he plays solid defense at all 3 OF spots.

    The last OF spot is either Gardner’s or Hoffman’s.

  32. CR9 February 8th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Did anyone hear about the spat between Pete Abe and Curt Schilling?

  33. Carl February 8th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    You mean Schilling and the baseball expert Pete Abe haha

  34. 108 stitches February 8th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Chad:

    Excellent viewpoint with the catching scenarios and probably right on target.
    There’s always the unknowns but short of injuries, this is how it’s likely to play out.
    Many eyes will be on the progress of Montero and Romine.

  35. Rich on the 6 Train February 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Alot of so called analysts are saying that Montero is too big to be a catcher. There is a guy in Minneapolis that is pretty big and does a pretty good job.

    Chad love your analysis! Please provide the same for all positions; if you can.

  36. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Higashioka and Farnham will split the Charleston time. Tampa is really thing at Tampa will Gil and Abeita, who both took steps backwards last year.

  37. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    ***Tampa is really thin at catcher with Gil and Abeita, who both took steps backwards last year.***

  38. Joe from Long Island February 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Hi GB, how are you doing?

  39. steveoh February 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    The Damon-ator February 8th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    everyone knows that Montero isn’t cut out to be a big league catcher, his body frame, which only figures to get bigger, is already too big for a catcher. at best, he’ll be a regular dh/1b type who can spot catch. but with romine and the other guys thats ok.

    Jesus Montero is listed as 6’4″, 225 lbs.

    Joe Mauer is listed as 6’5″, 225 lbs.

  40. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    Seems that “little” Joe Mauer and “tiny” Matty Wieters have decent futures as catchers.

  41. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Hey, Joe. Hope things are going well in the “icebox” for you, today. Down here, it kills to have to turn on the A/C, but, I will suffer with you. Things are going pretty good ith me. I fly to Tampa tomorrow for a checkup. It seems that Nurse Borissa Karloff is on vacation (probably getting her neck bolts tightened) so, hopefully, I’m safe.

  42. Bret the Hitman February 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Just because Mauer is an exceptional defensive catcher and happens to be big doesn’t mean Montero projects to catch at the major league level because he’s the same size.

    Oversized defensive catchers are often limited defensively because of their size. Mauer is an exception and comparing Montero to him or using his size as a baseline for comparison defensively is about as accurate as guessing in a game of shells.

  43. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Bret the Hitman
    February 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
    Just because Mauer is an exceptional defensive catcher and happens to be big doesn’t mean Montero projects to catch at the major league level because he’s the same size.

    Oversized defensive catchers are often limited defensively because of their size. Mauer is an exception and comparing Montero to him or using his size as a baseline for comparison defensively is about as accurate as guessing in a game of shells.

    ————————————————————

    And you deciding that a player that you have barely, if ever seen, can’t catch because of his size is ok, huh? Seems that the yanks and others are changing their tune about his catching developement. Having an experienced defensive catching instructor working with him in Scranton will help polish his flaws.

  44. Rich in NJ February 8th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    I agree that Montero won’t be Mauer. The issue is really whether or not he can be a passable catcher. At this point, I think it would be silly to foreclose that possibility.

  45. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    I’m really looking forward to seeing how Romine progresses; he’s my favorite prospect

  46. CR9 February 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Pete Abe even gets into immature spats with Boston hero Curt Schilling.

    If that does not speak volumes about the maturity level of Pete Abe, I’m not sure what does.

    Curt Schilling might even have gained a little respect for calling out piggy pete abe.

  47. Rose February 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    CR9

    Please, tell us how you really feel about Pete Abe, don’t be shy.

  48. blake February 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    He doesn’t have to be Mauer defensively. He just needs to be close to average. Posada isn’t exactly Johnny Bench and thats worked out quite well. Having a plus bat a catcher is a huge advantage.

  49. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    February 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    I’m really looking forward to seeing how Romine progresses; he’s my favorite prospect

    ————————————————————

    Romine seemed to be about a half a step behind Montero on defense and offense. He’s not going to be a huge power hitter, but, he has every chance to be a .290-.310 hitter with 18-22 homer power as a catcher (A.J. Pierzynski comparison on offense/defense). Slow/stiff hands are an issue, but, his footwork was a little better than 2008. I thought that it was telling that Posada spent so much time with Montero last spring than with Romine.

    I still see them moving Romine to a secondary position, and right field and possibly some corner infield in time. Pat M thinks third base, but, the future is apparently Laird, though he gets so little respect from anybody. I see him in Scranton before the 2010 season is out.

  50. Joe from Long Island February 8th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    GB – have a good flight and a better stay in Tampa. I’m not quite as young as I used to be, and being that I have to get up at too long before sunrise, I’ll be saying good night all.

  51. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Thanks, Joe. Have a great night and day tomorrow. Hope some of the snow melts off without icing the roads.

  52. GeorgeInJax February 8th, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    With all the catchers in the system we have some good coaches working with them as well. Cervelli certainly has credited Tony Pena for helping him at the big league level. Posada’s defense improved with Tony Pena too. I’m sure he can help Montero when he gets up to the big club.

  53. DaSaint007 February 8th, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    GB, I’m pullin for ya tomorrow. But I’m not about to do a tete-a-tete w/Karloff if you get in any trouble.

    I like the catching depth, and sentimentally would love to see Cervelli succeed as a good defensive backup. Hope he doesn’t hit lights out otherwise he’ll mess up folks plans.

    Saint

  54. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    GeorgeInJax
    February 8th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    With all the catchers in the system we have some good coaches working with them as well. Cervelli certainly has credited Tony Pena for helping him at the big league level. Posada’s defense improved with Tony Pena too. I’m sure he can help Montero when he gets up to the big club.

    ————————————————————

    They’ll get plenty of instruction this spring and Montero has Rivera to work with him in Scranton, but, maily, he has Butch Wynegar to polish him. PJ Pilittere is either in Trenton or Scranton and he’s a pretty decent defensive catcher, but, he can’t through very well. Just a fair arm, and not much bat.

  55. Sports Geek February 8th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    Chad, Welcome back from your vacation.

    Great post on the wealth of resources the Yankees have in their catcher ranks. Definitely a nice problem to have.

    One thing I have begun pushing for while you were away:
    – To change the habit of notifying readers of a new post and then all moving like a swarm of bees (4 or 5 different metaphors were used by different people) to the new post I requested that people NOT leave a comment when a new post is available (because people will see it and move soon enough).

    - Some said they prefer when comments fall under the post that they relate to, rather than under a future post. There were a bunch who agreed with this.
    - Some said they want to know when a new post arrives.
    - Some said- “people are going to move anyway”
    - Some said most of the posts are just continuous conversation and not so much related to a specific post, so it doesn’t matter if people move
    - Sam and Jeff said that the new structure of threaded comments should help things… some really didn’t agree that it would help.

    – I modified my initial request (since people are probably going to post “=>New Post” anyway). My new request is that if someone posts a comment to notify people of new posts, that the comment encourage people to continue posting comments under the current post if their comment relates.
    … Maybe Chad and Sam and Josh can always post “=> New Post… But stay here if you want to comment about this current subject” at the appropriate time.

    In the interim, I’m probably going to smile and just live with whatever happens.. And I might end up double-posting my comments (under the proper topic-related post, and under the most current post) if I think I have something “important to say”.

  56. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    DaSaint007
    February 8th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
    GB, I’m pullin for ya tomorrow. But I’m not about to do a tete-a-tete w/Karloff if you get in any trouble.

    I like the catching depth, and sentimentally would love to see Cervelli succeed as a good defensive backup. Hope he doesn’t hit lights out otherwise he’ll mess up folks plans.

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. so, I guess that I can’t count on you if Borissa wants to meet you for “dinner and drinks”, huh?

    I’m trying to think of all the good things to say about her, like, great personality, sense of humor, loves animals (being one herself).

    Problem is, all but the animal part is a lie.

  57. GreenBeret7 February 8th, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    he can’t through very well

    Correction:

    he can’t ***throw*** very well

  58. Sports Geek February 8th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    CR9

    I’m just going to tell you my personal experience with blogs when folks start bit_hing at each other– What happens is they degrade into shouting matches, and the discussions become less and less interesting or useful.

    I would prefer that if you don’t like Pete Abe, then tell him in private emails, and don’t post your comment here.

    On the other hand, if you have something factual and/or substantive to report, then bring it on.

    Thanks.

  59. ortforshort February 9th, 2010 at 1:54 am

    I guess the strategy here is pick up the best player available regardless of position. What do you do with all these catchers? The idea that you stockpile catchers because they have more value is questionable. I’ll take a great pitching prospect any day. Great shortstop prospects and outfield prospects ain’t so bad either. Also, if you’ve got a great prospect, its unlikely you’ll get anywhere near full value in a trade. As far as this group of catching prospects goes, I’d much prefer to take my chances with Romine and Montero in the outfield than trade them if Posada is still playing at a high level when they’re ready for the big leagues. For one reason, the organization has no minor league outfielders (and only one in the majors, really). For another, unless the Yanks land Crawford as a free agent next year, there probably won’t be any outfielders better than either of these guys available. I don’t see the Phillies letting Jayson Werth slip thru their fingers before next season.

  60. will February 9th, 2010 at 2:51 am

    I’d almost rather thames start than gardner, Not sure why i hate gardner so much, maybe because he’s so weak

  61. crawdaddy February 9th, 2010 at 3:45 am

    “Just because Mauer is an exceptional defensive catcher and happens to be big doesn’t mean Montero projects to catch at the major league level because he’s the same size.

    Oversized defensive catchers are often limited defensively because of their size. Mauer is an exception and comparing Montero to him or using his size as a baseline for comparison defensively is about as accurate as guessing in a game of shells.”

    Nobody said he was going to be as good defensively as Mauer so why go there? What he needs to be is a passable defensive catcher with an outstanding bat.

  62. hobbie February 9th, 2010 at 6:54 am

    Is it possible that Thames starts the season at AAA as backup in case Winn can’t cut it. I don’t want to give back Hoffman if I can help it.

  63. blake February 9th, 2010 at 7:45 am

    I think the Yankees will give Montero every opportunity to prove he can be a big league catcher before they move him. He’s very young and has shown improvement so hopefully he will get there.

  64. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 7:50 am

    A friend just emailed me an article from the Post where Cashman said he will not be negotiating with Jeter, Girardi, or Mo in their contract year. Just my pre-emptory strike here:

    1. Good for him
    2. That’s how it should be
    3. Not a huge surprise
    4. Most be another slow news day
    5. Bring on the Winter Olympics!

  65. upstate kate February 9th, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Definitely a slow news day. ESPN, who I have a love/hate relationship with, is trying to create a story about how Peyton Manning didn’t shake Drew Brees’ hand after the Super Bowl. Is that usual protocol??? I don’t recall any Phillies shaking hands w/ any Yankees after the WS.

  66. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 7:57 am

    Yeah, Trisha, this is pretty old news. I think Cash has been asked this question several times (three that I can remember) and answered it the same way each time.

    Slow news period, indeed. :)

    Basically, he said they have a policy in place which really makes his job much easier. How do you negotiate with one of those without negotiating with another? There working policy for the last few years has been to wait until the end of the season. When you apply it across the board, there are no hurt feelings, etc. Plus, Cash adhered to this himself, when it was time for him to renegotiate his own contract.

    And the media knows this policy, so I really am getting tired of this storyline. It’s like they’re trying to create a controversy where there is none. So what else is new, right?

  67. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 7:59 am

    Their, not there, policy.

  68. rover February 9th, 2010 at 8:12 am

    A friend just emailed me an article from the Post where Cashman said he will not be negotiating with Jeter, Girardi, or Mo in their contract year. Just my pre-emptory strike here:
    —————–
    In Cash speak what does that mean? He is just going to give them what ever they want. Match last contract with incentives? Give them a raise?

    ????????????

  69. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 9th, 2010 at 8:15 am

    GB, Alex is going to be here for a long time; I don’t see anyone as the future at 3rd.

    I know that Romine isn’t Montero with the bat, but that doesn’t bother me; I just like him overall as a prospect

  70. m1kew February 9th, 2010 at 8:15 am

    The Damon-ator
    February 8th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    everyone knows that Montero isn’t cut out to be a big league catcher, his body frame, which only figures to get bigger, is already too big for a catcher.

    Jesus Montero is 6’4″ and 225 lbs

    there is this other guy … kind of a catcher too

    he is 6’5″ and 220 lbs

    good thing for the Twins that he “isn’t cut out to be a big league catcher”

    I’m sure you know I am referring to Joe Mauer.

    Maybe Mauer is the exception to the rule. Maybe there is more than one exception. Give the Yankees the chance to see where Montero fits best and not prejudge him.

    But if they believe he can be merely average defensively his bat at the catching position adds more value than if he were a DH or played first base.

  71. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 8:21 am

    Grr! Once again the lengthy post and forgot to copy and paste. Censor got a word it didn’t like. The word, by the way, is the formal word for the daughter of one of your siblings. Long story but the censor doesn’t like that word. (I forgot about it when I was writing the post.) So I will misspell it in the future!

    Doreen, I remember you saying you thought Thames would be a good fit. Yay! I am happy we got him.

    Doreen and Upstate – what are your snow predictions? We are definitely getting this storm so I am going to get an early start on the day and get out and get some things done – food in the house, Valentine cards for my neices (sic) and nephews, and some little gifty things for them. Also refill the bird feeders so I don’t have to worry about that tomorrow.

    Are either of you Winter Olympic devotees? I love the Winter Olympics and can’t wait for it to start. I keep promising myself I am going to go to the Winter Olympics. This year I at least got around to looking at the price of event tickets. E chihuahua!!!

  72. Roger(The tallest guy in HongKong) February 9th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    A good chance this would be the starting lineup vs RHP and LHP?

    Lineup vs RHP:
    SS Jeter
    DH Johnson
    1B Texiera
    3B Rodriguez
    CF Granderson
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    RF Swisher
    LF Gardner/Winn

    Lineup vs LHP:
    SS Jeter
    DH Johnson
    1B Texiera
    3B Rodriguez
    C Posada
    LF Thames
    2B Cano
    RF Swisher
    CF Granderson

  73. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    rover, I think it just means that Cashman will start contract talks when the season is over and not until.

    Of course he could always be held hostage by someone like Papelbum, who decided he was worth a lot more money than his team was paying him. What a riot! The Suxers fell for it and Papelbum turned in a postseason to remember. Heck yeah, can you all think back to where you were when Papelbon handed the game to the Angels after they were down by two runs in the bottom of the 9th???? Not trying to make you all relive it but seriously I was delerious. The bad news is that I didn’t get to hear it in person as when I left my car to go to one of the local Columbus Day art festivals, the Sux had the game in the bag. So I thought. I left the car at the bottom of the 8th. When I got back into the car I switched on EEI and heard the horrific voice of Joe Castiglione doing a postmortem on the season. I almost couldn’t breathe. Of course, I knew I would be able to see a replay of the inning either through NESN or MLB.com.

    So rover, the moral of the story is that it isn’t good to negotiate until you know what you have in your hand. IMO

  74. upstate kate February 9th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Trisha
    We are missing the worst of the storm. We aren’t expected to get very much snow, just more cold weather.
    We love the winter olympics, especially my husband, as his 2nd job is a college xc ski coach.
    I got to see some of the Olympics when they were in Lake Placid. I lived in Saranac Lake at the time and you could take a shuttle bus over and just wander around. I got to see one of the early US hockey games, before any one expected them to be so good. And, thanks to our Canadian neighbors, we got to watch the US/Russian game in real time on Canadian TV.

  75. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Trisha -

    They’re saying a foot of snow for us. So, this morning it’s out to the store to pick up my daughter’s prescriptions, run to the drycleaners and pick up, what else, a half gallon of milk! (So original :) )

    I normally look forward to the Winter Olympics. I love all the skating and the skiing stuff, am fascinated by (but don’t really like) the snowboarding stuff. This year, I haven’t been paying too much attention for some reason. I’m sure once they start, I’ll be glued to the events.

    Trisha -

    We visited Vancouver a few summers ago. It would have been worth going just to visit the city, even if you didn’t get any event tickets. Wonderful city. Interesting problem they’re having, though, with there being a shortage of snow. :?

    upstate kate -

    Many years ago, we visited Lake Placid – after the Olympics were held there. We had a friend who worked for GM (who supplied the vehicles) and we were guests of his at this incredible chalet. We ice skated at the Olympic rink and I attempted to ski (I’m not good at it). My husband, to his utter delight, got the opportunity to go on a bobsled with one of the Olympic drivers, AND he got to go on a luge. We have pictures of both. Our guide (the olympic bobsled guy) lived in Saranac Lake and we took the ferry over. His family owned (owns?) a restaurant/tavern called the Dew Drop Inn, and we had THE MOST incredible buffalo wings I’d ever had. I’ll tell you, it was one of the best get-aways we’d ever had. And that’s even including we had to take this small place from JFK to Lake Placid (not my favorite part). I wish I could remember the name of the bobsled guy – he even used to do television commentary on the bobsled events during the Olympics.

  76. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    **small PLANE, not small place. Sheesh!

  77. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    Upstate, wow that is awesome about your husband coaching college skiing! And being able to take a shuttle and wander around the Olympic village and watch Olympic hockey. That is great. I’d give a lot for that experience. (Especially to live close enough to do it.) Oh well. Unless Connecticut or Massachusetts decide to host the Winter Olympics, I don’t think I’ll ever be close enough to shuttle there!!!

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  78. upstate kate February 9th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Doreen
    It would be one of the Morgan brothers…John maybe or Sean?

  79. upstate kate February 9th, 2010 at 9:05 am

    Trisha
    Definitely a once in a life time experience. I doubt Placid would ever be able to host again. Too small to deal with all the security issues these days.

  80. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 9:06 am

    upstate kate -

    Yes! John Morgan. I remembered the John, and then and “M” last name, but it wasn’t coming tome. Thanks! What a great guide he was!

  81. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    (This was going back over 23 years ago, boy do I feel old right now.)

  82. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Doreen – that is AWESOME!!!

    Only in my dreams…

    :(

    The good part about being isolated in little Rhody, however, is that we will never be in the heart of a terrorist threat. That’s what I keep telling myself to feel better about being in the smallest state in the nation, with our only claim to fame being continual greed and corruption in all branches of our goverment!

  83. trisha - OPPC forever - (new lucky picture from last day at the old Stadium) BRING ON THE GHOSTS! February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 am

    The GOOD thing about being in the smallest state in the nation is that everything you need is about 5 minutes away! I was telling Fran that the other day when she had to drive an hour to get to her “local” Walmart. Mine is 5 minutes from my house (in bad traffic).

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    Check you all out later. Enjoy the morning!!!

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    I guess Cashman is trying to mitigate the risk of signing these guys – especially the older players. The last thing you want is to sign Mo or Jeter to a 3-4 year deal and have him get injured the next day.

    The other downside of Cashman’s policy is we have to hear about how these guys are going to be free agents for the next 9 months.

  85. Erin February 9th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Patrick
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    The other downside of Cashman’s policy is we have to hear about how these guys are going to be free agents for the next 9 months.

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    Trisha -

    The most awesome part of the trip, though, was really something I laugh about all the time. My husband is very athletic. Can do just about anything. I am the opposite. However, I can hold my own on iceskates. Nothing fancy, but I can glide with the best of the them. Well, my husband laced up his skates and went onto the rink and fell. And then just hugged the sides of the rink for about 15 minutes and then called it quits. I never saw him looking so, well, klutzy. :) I tease him to this day. He’s a really good sport about that.

  88. pat February 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    One year ago today was Alex’s ESPN interview with Gammons.

    Think of all that has happened since then.

  89. Fran (the original) and OPPC member February 9th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Doreen,

    Expecting about a foot of snow here in Queens as well. Did you have any of the snow on Saturday?

  90. Erin February 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    pat
    February 9th, 2010 at 9:25 am
    One year ago today was Alex’s ESPN interview with Gammons.

    Think of all that has happened since then.

    ********************
    Wow, that was a year ago today??? Time flies. :)

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    Doreen
    I have one of those athletic husbands as well, seems like whatever sport he tries, he excells at. I think that is why my son chose wrestling and lacrosse as 2 of his high school sports, since they were sports my husband never did.

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    “Not sure that I like Cashman’s policy of not negotiating deals during the contract year of a player/coach. I think he could have gotten a more favorable deal with Posada if he had negotiated a new deal earlier.”

    I think it’s more than just Cashman’s policy, but the Yankee organization’s policy. They’re willing to risk paying more later than to negotiate a contract too early that backfires on them.

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  95. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Fran,

    We had 6 to 7 inches over the weekend.

    What’s going to really be awful this time is, my husband is supposed to go to Tarrytown for a 3-day off-site meeting starting tomorrow. If they don’t cancel it, which I don’t think they will be (they made arrangements for people to arrive a day early), he will be away for the snowstorm, which means I have to do the shoveling.

    Frankly, I don’t know how he’s going to drive up there tomorrow morning.

    We have a snowblower, which I’ve used before, but I’m not adept at it. The snow always seems to blow on me. I have also shoveled before. I’m not a spoiled suburban housewife, believe me. But I don’t like doing it. And I don’t look forward to doing it. Especially if it doesn’t stop snowing until it gets dark out.

    So, we’ll see.

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    Tom B
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    hahahahaha

    ————————————————————

    I wonder if he only orders “game thrown” octopus?

  97. Fran (the original) and OPPC member February 9th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Doreen,

    Cleaning the snow may be really hard if it is going to be as windy as they say. My cousin in Baltimore tried cleaning his driveway and walkway on Saturday after the snow and after 3 hours it looked like he hadn’t done too much!

    Hopefully your husband’ meeting will be cancelled-or maybe the snow won’t be as bad as they are predicting.

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    Doreen

    A neighbor’s son and $20 will solve your problem.

    My sons eyes turn to $$ signs when a snow storm is predicted.

  99. Doreen - Ain't it Just "Grand"? February 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am

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