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Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 10, 2010 
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Yankee Stadium is somewhere in this picture. Can you find it?
Clearly it’s a snow day in New York, but in Washington and Detroit, there are some updates on Chien-Ming Wang and Johnny Damon.
• It’s looking like Wang might be going to the Nationals. The Dodgers are reportedly out of the running — or at least, they aren’t offering what Wang and his agent want — and that seems to leave Washington as the front runner. Our old friend, and good friend, Pete Abraham reported this morning that Wang had already decided on the Nationals, and frankly, Pete is pretty well sourced in Wang’s camp.
• We’re still hearing rumblings out there about the Tampa Bay Rays, but the Tigers seem to have come front and center in the Damon sweepstakes. Damon seems to like Detroit — him being a Red Wings fan and all — and it seems the feeling is mutual, though it’s hard to say what kind of deal Detroit might offer. Atlanta has reportedly discussed a one-year deal with Damon. (tip of the hat to Tom in NJ)
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Just my two cents on the Yankees pursuit — or non-pursuit – of Wang and Damon…
As always, it’s about what the individual teams can offer. I’m sure every team in baseball would love to have Wang on a minor league deal, or would love to get Damon for something like one year, $2 million. The Nationals, though, might be willing to guarantee Wang a big league contract with a spot in the rotation once he’s healthy. I’m not sure the Yankees would (or should) do that. The Tigers probably have more use for Damon at this point – more glaring hole at the top of the lineup – which might let them offer more than the Yankees (budget issues aside).
All things being equal, both Wang and Damon might prefer a return to New York, but until we know what exactly is on the table, we can’t know whether all things actually are equal.
Chad, I disagree that the Yankees didn’t pursue Damon. They pursued him to the extent that they wanetd to and he didn’t want to be caught by them. I doubt Damon knows anything about Detroit, just that they are one of the few teams out there to show any interest in him
“Braves make one-year offer to Damon
Potential deal for outfielder would include deferred money”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Bronx Jeers
February 10th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
That was a fun game. Let’s play again.
Who said the following:
“I’m afraid it’s too late for them. If they go outside, the storm will kill them. At this point, their best chance is to stay inside. Try to ride it out. Pray.”
A. The Dennis Quaid character in “The Day After Tomorrow” while speaking to The President of the U.S.
B. Mayor Bloomberg, speaking about the residents of New York City.
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Dennis Quaid???
If Boras now plays the “Johnny’s a huge Lions fan too”, card, I’m changing the channel.
In any case, the Yankees did all they could to sign Damon and I’m very happy that they didn’t go over what they thought he was worth.
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Bronx Jeers
February 10th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
That was a fun game. Let’s play again.
Who said the following:
“I’m afraid it’s too late for them. If they go outside, the storm will kill them. At this point, their best chance is to stay inside. Try to ride it out. Pray.”
A. The Dennis Quaid character in “The Day After Tomorrow” while speaking to The President of the U.S.
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I know this one!!!!! A
But at this point B wouldn’t surprise me either
Betsy, I agree. I just meant right now, whether the pursuit is on-going.
John in Ohio
February 10th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
If Boras now plays the “Johnny’s a huge Lions fan too”, card, I’m changing the channel.
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Is there such a thing as a huge Lions fan?
I don’t see where an offer has been made, just that the Braves have been discussing it. I think it would be hilarious for Damon to accept deferred $$$ from the Braves (or whomever) when he categorically refused to do so from the Yankees. I really don’t get why an NL team would want Damon, but so be it
I think we need some snowy day songs-
I’ll start with a favorite:
“And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Till the landslide brought it down”
Tampa can’t sign him unless they move Burrell. No takers for Burrell=No Damon.
Detroit is always a good dumping off point for Boras clients since Scott and Mike Illich are very, very tight.
Its interesting because Johnny playing D in Comerica Park would be a nightmare for him. Its also not a great hitters ballpark for his style of hitting.
Atlanta? I can’t see them doing anything drastic $$$-wise. Not with Jason Heywood on the horizon.
Either way, whatever he signs for will be less than he was offered by the Yankees.
No spin from the Boras/Damon camp can wipe away that fact.
Chad, got it. That said, I think if Damon had REALLY wanted to return, he would have instructed Boras to get something done. He didn’t do that; I can not see how he gets anywhere close to 2/14.
Erin
Michael Moore? He’s from Michigan.
I know virtually everyone in this country worships at the alter of the almighty dollar, and I can understand why, but the way Damon has conducted himself this offseason has transformed him from one of my favorite players into one of my least favorite.
John in Ohio
February 10th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Erin
Michael Moore? He’s from Michigan.
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LOL I stand corrected.
I’m not sure I would want my owner being really tight with an agent as that could perhaps influence the owner to making dumb decisions just to do that agent a favor.
Not happy about Wang. I haven’t been happy with almost all of the moves the Yankees have made this off-season… but I know not bringing back Wang will be the biggest mistake.
It will come back to bite them.
Rich, I will just say that for the most part I agree. I won’t go quite as far as you (well, because Damon wasn’t one of my favorite players, though I liked him), but he ticked me off by blowing the Yankees off early in the process. He’s talked way too much this off-season and his comments about Jeter were pretty much the last straw. I can’t wait until pitchers and catchers report so we can talk about Yankees and not players who aren’t.
How is it going to come back to bite them? There is no evidence of that.
He may not be able to pitch until June and nobody knows what he will be like following his second shoulder surgery.
He has pitched for a bunch of teams and only the Nationals have made him a solid enough offer for them to consider.
That should tell you something about what the scouts saw in his workouts.
I meant to say, “worked out in front of a bunch of teams”. Sorry for the typo.
If Wang is willing to go to the Nationals, that tells me that he’s not getting offers OR the Nationals brought the dollar signs…
As for Damon, I didn’t like the Yankees giving him 4 years the first time they signed him and I wouldn’t like them to give him 2 years now. So if years is what it takes to sign him, then i’m not sorry the yankees let him go. if the yankees could of had Damon at 1 year, less than $10 million as the DH, i think that might have been worth considering, but I hate to see that guy in the outfield – unless he’s playing against the Yankees
You can’t imagine the Tigers are big spenders, what with their local economy tanking the way it is…
If Wang only signs a one year deal maybe we can see how he does and then resign him next season. That would be a perfect scenario since there’s no spot in the rotation for him this season, and it would be better for him to be pitching this year in the majors than the minors.
some people just can’t separate solid baseball decisioins from thier feelings for players they like.
after the yankees won the world series without any positive contribution from wang and then went out and got javy lopez, how can anyone say that not signing wang after his second shoulder surgery is going to come back and bite them?
sure we all liked Wang and most of us wanted him back, but c’mon, losing him is not going to affect how this team does this season, thats just crazy.
Here is what I don’t understand about Johnny’s situation….
Johnny lost a lot of money in the Stanford Financial Scandal. A LOT.
Scott Boras put a lot of his clients into Stanford Financial (for a fee of course), and my understanding is, many of them have not gotten all of their money out of it since the Government has siezed all the cash they could get their hands on Stanford had in their accounts.
My understanding is, the Yankees extended interest free loans to guys that were on the team and had their money tied up in the scandal so they could get through the season.
Given that backdrop, how in the world do you turn down a 2/14 deal from the team that tried to bail you out of this financial mess?
Forget all the nonsense that the offer “wasn’t real”. That’s ridiculous.
Brian Cashman told Arn Tellem, Matsui’s agent, the priority was to sign Damon first before addressing anything re: Matsui. If the Yankees didn’t want to sign Damon, they wouldn’t have tried to hold off Tellem re: Matsui when he approached them about doing a deal.
They wanted Johnny Damon and nobody involved with the Yankees understand to this day what in the world he and Boras were thinking.
Spin aside, its February 10, he has no job, and any offer he gets will be less than the Yankees offer.
I haven’t talked to a person in baseball who has a logical answer as to why the Boras/Damon Camp went in this direction. It defies logic.
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I think we need some snowy day songs-
I’ll start with a favorite:
“And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Till the landslide brought it down”
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Look around
Leaves are brown
And the sky
Is a hazy shade of winter
GreenBeret7
February 10th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Sorry, but, gotta laugh at some of the headlines this could make.
Howdy, ya’ll.
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Hi GB! How are you?
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Hello, Erin. Doing pretty well, today. Thank you for asking. How is your day going. I haven’t caught up on the reading, yet, so I don’t know what the latest on Bert, Ernie and Oscar are, so you can fill me in.
I’m a bit tired from the tests and Nurse Borissa Karloff chasing me around. Not sure why I should need a sponge bath just to gets some tests. She has some strange ideas. I tried being very nice to her today by telling her about this guy that wants to meet her. I gave her Randy’s name and E-mail address. She’s thrilled beyond words. They’ll make a great couple.
Simon and Garfunkel!
I don’t think we’ll see Wang in a Yankees uniform again. If he regains his top form again, he’ll have offers, and he’ll remember what transpired.
I know people will say it’s business. This and that. But we paid Dotel & Mitre to rehab (albeit not very much).
Non-tendering is one thing, signing him to an incentive-laden major league contract and stashing him on the DL until he’s ready is onoather thing.
So if Wang feels a bit miffed, I don’t blame him for it.
GB,
Hang in there. You are in my prayers that your tests go well.
Rich in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I know virtually everyone in this country worships at the alter of the almighty dollar, and I can understand why, but the way Damon has conducted himself this offseason has transformed him from one of my favorite players into one of my least favorite.
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Couldn’t agree more. At least he’s going to pay for it, both financially and by putting himself in a position that will likely be less competitive and reduce his statistical success (outside of YS3 and the NYY lineup).
“Given that backdrop, how in the world do you turn down a 2/14 deal from the team that tried to bail you out of this financial mess?”
Because he’s out of touch.
If I had that kind of money, I would put most of it in treasuries.
I can barely see out my window!
GreenBeret7
February 10th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Hello, Erin. Doing pretty well, today. Thank you for asking. How is your day going. I haven’t caught up on the reading, yet, so I don’t know what the latest on Bert, Ernie and Oscar are, so you can fill me in.
I’m a bit tired from the tests and Nurse Borissa Karloff chasing me around. Not sure why I should need a sponge bath just to gets some tests. She has some strange ideas. I tried being very nice to her today by telling her about this guy that wants to meet her. I gave her Randy’s name and E-mail address. She’s thrilled beyond words. They’ll make a great couple.
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My day is going well, thank you. Only a couple of hours left and I’m out of here! The only Sesame Street news you missed is that Sarah Jessica Parker will be on next week. I’m very excited.
I bet Nurse Karloff missed you!! And that was very nice of you to fix her up with Randy. I’m sure he’ll appreciate it.
Will Damon really get more than 7 million a year? I think it will be interesting to see how much him and Boras overplayed the market.
As for Wang, I really am curious to see how much the Nationals are going to pay him.. as well as how many years.. Do you think they would stick to a 1 year contract, or take a bite out of 2 or an option?
Erica: Lots of snow there? We have maybe an inch. Which I wont complain about.
GB7
“I’m a bit tired from the tests and Nurse Borissa Karloff chasing me around. Not sure why I should need a sponge bath just to gets some tests. She has some strange ideas. I tried being very nice to her today by telling her about this guy that wants to meet her. I gave her Randy’s name and E-mail address. She’s thrilled beyond words. They’ll make a great couple.”
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I hope you told her randy likes sabermetrics so she can be prepared with lots of stats for him.
OK, here it is a beautiful winter day, sunny, mid 20′s, but we could use a bit more snow…can you send some up please
GB7
that sponge bath sounds a little suspicious, I wouldn’t trust nurse karloff if I was you.
Erin
February 10th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I think we need some snowy day songs-
I’ll start with a favorite:
“And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Till the landslide brought it down”
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Look around
Leaves are brown
And the sky
Is a hazy shade of winter
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I’m very impressed, Erin. Not often do you see someone so young reference a Simon and Garfunkel song on here that isn’t from “Mrs. Robinson”.
Elbows are different than shoulders. Its an apples and oranges comparison.
Teams will take a chance on guys coming off elbow surgery.
Shoulders are trickier. Second shoulder surgeries? Very, very tough.
That’s why he didn’t have that many offers on the table.
You don’t go to the Nationals unless you have to.
That should give you an idea that teams, not just the Yankees, are concerned about his ability to comeback from these injuries.
Erin
February 10th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Look around
Leaves are brown
And the sky
Is a hazy shade of winter
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“A winter’s day
In a deep and dark December”
Wang may sign before Damon!
I think it’s 1 year for Wang, base + incentives in the $2-3M range.
Good gamble for the Nationals.
GreenBeret7
February 10th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Erin
February 10th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
I think we need some snowy day songs-
I’ll start with a favorite:
“And I saw my reflection in the snow-covered hills
Till the landslide brought it down”
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Look around
Leaves are brown
And the sky
Is a hazy shade of winter
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I’m very impressed, Erin. Not often do you see someone so young reference a Simon and Garfunkel song on here that isn’t from “Mrs. Robinson”.
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LOL What can I say, even though I’m an ’80s baby, I feel like I grew up on ’60s music, because that’s what my parents always played when I was a kid.
MaineYankee
February 10th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
GB7
“I’m a bit tired from the tests and Nurse Borissa Karloff chasing me around. Not sure why I should need a sponge bath just to gets some tests. She has some strange ideas. I tried being very nice to her today by telling her about this guy that wants to meet her. I gave her Randy’s name and E-mail address. She’s thrilled beyond words. They’ll make a great couple.”
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I hope you told her randy likes sabermetrics so she can be prepared with lots of stats for him.
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I didn’t want to spoil a perfect night for them. They have so much in common. Won’t they be surprised when they discover their common bond. She says that she just adores a New England accent. I think she’s already in love. I’m safe…unless she has a twin sister.
SJ, I had no idea the Yankees loaned their players $$$ to get through the season. That’s darn generous of them – and this is the team that Damon was whining about that he hopes they don’t give Jeter a pay cut? That says something about Johnny and it’s not good. For some reason, the myth persists that the Yanks didn’t want Damon – and these people who believe that are hypocrites. They are probably the same people who applauded the Sox’ stance (not paying more for players they wanted then they valued the players at). When the Yankees do the same, it’s because they’re cheap. Interesting.
Valid point SJ. So do you see this contract being more incentive based?
A little chilly for Florida (60 degrees) but Chad and hopefully a lot of fans from the Tri-State area and beyond will see warmer temperatures next week when the pitchers and catchers step on Steinbrenner Field next Thursday at about 10:30 AM.
http://www.ballparkreviews.com/tampa/legends.htm
upstate kate
February 10th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
OK, here it is a beautiful winter day, sunny, mid 20’s, but we could use a bit more snow…can you send some up please
GB7
that sponge bath sounds a little suspicious, I wouldn’t trust nurse karloff if I was you.
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Kate, she? is a very scary person. she does have all of the things most guys dream of, though…muscles, handle-bar mustache. I thought it was a bit odd that she brought her cat in today. I bent down to pet the cat, and discovered that it was her leg.
Brrrrr.
braves made a one year offer to damon. he better take whatever it is or he is toast. 1/2M maybe?
We’re going to end up with about a foot of snow, maybe more. I guess it doesn’t matter, lol. Once you get past 6 inches, you need a snow plow anyway. What a mess; I can’t understand how anyone is out in this.
sj i disagree about the nationals. they appear to actually be trying to get better. i actually think the nationals will be at the top of the wildcard chase this year.
Tex’s friend, where did you read that? The article posted before said nothing about an offer, just that the Braves were discussing it. Again, if Damon takes deferred $$ from the Braves when he rejected it from the Yankees….
espnnews just had something on the bottom from mlb.com
Erin, I adore Simon and Garfunkle. This snow reminds me of the line from I am a Rock (something about snow and a deep and dark December). It’s not December, of course, but snow is still snow, lol. I saw them in concert a few years ago with the Everly Brothers as the 2nd act – what a dream come true for me as I LOVE the Everly Brothers.
SJ-
“You don’t go to the Nationals unless you have to.
That should give you an idea that teams, not just the Yankees, are concerned about his ability to comeback from these injuries.”
For Wang’s sake I would like to have seen him end up in a better situation, but you’re right, this reflects very favorably on the Yankees. The Yankees took risks in essentially letting Abreu, Damon, and Wang walk away…that’s a lot of talent. However, the market has proven Cashman’s position on these players to be spot on…imagine if he offered arbitration to these three guys. It’s easy to say anyone could have signed CC, A.J., & Tex, but Cashman doesn’t get enough credit for who he hasn’t signed. You know these decisions would have gone the other way in the past, and the Yankees would be a lot worse off because of it.
i like johnny but he deserves what happens to him now. if he goes to atlanta, can they give us melky back?
Christina
Did you finish w/ grad school?
welcome back
GB7
that is just creepy
Oh – that article posted was from MLB.com. There’s nothing to it but speculation – seems ESPN got it wrong again
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 10th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Erin, I adore Simon and Garfunkle. This snow reminds me of the line from I am a Rock (something about snow and a deep and dark December). It’s not December, of course, but snow is still snow, lol. I saw them in concert a few years ago with the Everly Brothers as the 2nd act – what a dream come true for me as I LOVE the Everly Brothers.
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So funny- I just typed that line at 3:24!!!
And I was probably at the same show as you! December 2005 at the Garden?
Unless Damon/Boras are on drugs, the only explanation for passing on a better deal is ego and pride. As Cashman said back in December, players don’t like coming back to the same team for a paycut.
If SJ44′s story of the Yankees advancing him an interest-free loan is true, it speaks volumes, about a lot of things. Wonder how Cash and Hal felt after extending the last offer, after Jeter and CC, others spoke up, and having it turned down.
Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. So much for being a mature adult.
I left work early and just got home a few minutes ago. Its really coming down in brooklyn! At this point, I’m hoping it snows all night and my office closes tomorrow. ( not gunna happen, but I can dream!)
Betsy
ESPN 1050 is reporting it, but they are very sloppy about what they report.
GB7–I expect you will become jealous when Nurse Karloff’s rubber gloves are being used on Randy. The popping sound of her putting on her gloves probably puts a smile on your face. You can tell us. We’ll keep a secret.
We might even get a bit of snow here in Austin. Brr.
Boras advised Damon that if he stuck it out long enough, the money would be there.
They thought some team would eventually cave, & give them what they wanted since offensively Damon’s numbers last season were very good.
However, besides a bad economy. Teams understood that a big reason Damon’s stats were so good was because of the lineup he hit in and the park he played in. Add to that the fact that his defense is weak and he has NO arm and he is 37 yrs. old and its no wonder no team is interested in paying top dollar for he services at this point.
Damon would have loved to have gone back to the Yankees, but between listening to Boras, the fact that he is all about the $$$ & his life style (He lives in a mansion in a very exclusive Dr. Phillips subdivision of Orlando & has a stable of expensive collector automobiles) and his pride; Damon gambled on doing what was the sensible option for his career and took a chance he could hustle big dollars from some team.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 10th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Erin, I adore Simon and Garfunkle. This snow reminds me of the line from I am a Rock (something about snow and a deep and dark December). It’s not December, of course, but snow is still snow, lol. I saw them in concert a few years ago with the Everly Brothers as the 2nd act – what a dream come true for me as I LOVE the Everly Brothers.
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Wow, am I jealous. I love both S&G and the Everly Brothers. That must have been quite a show!
upstate kate February 10th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Christina
Did you finish w/ grad school?
welcome back
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Thanks Kate!
I sort of did. I have my Master’s in Literacy now, though I am going back for 1 more semester to get my extension to teach 7-9 grade math. There are just no jobs out there, so this will give me more options (I hope).
How have you been?
Tex,
The Nationals aren’t going to be anywhere near the WC chase this year. Nobody wants to go to Washington.
Its not a preferred destination for free agents.
“That’s darn generous of them – and this is the team that Damon was whining about that he hopes they don’t give Jeter a pay cut?”
I understand these guys having a certain confidence or pride in their abilities, but Damon kind of took it too far didn’t he? How could he have expected to be paid the same salary he got four years ago…when he was four years younger, a CF, a free agent in a robust market, being bid on by wealthy archrivals????? When you think about it you really understand why Cashman got so upset and made his uncharacteristic comments about how long it’s taking people to wake up, agents not possibly believing what they are saying, people thinking he is stupid, etc.
Something is definitely wrong. The Yankees probably did want Damon back in a big way, but not as big as the Damon camp would’ve liked. I think it just disintegrated from there. Cashman probably knew that Boras/Damon were not going to come down on their demands, and quickly moved on. We know that this particular negotiation goaded Cashman, because he was quite pointed with some of his statements.
The game is also changing and I can’t believe Scott doesn’t see it.
Mid-30′s, defensively challenged guys, regardless of their bats, aren’t getting jobs for big money.
Johnny and Jermaine Dye are great examples of this.
How they couldn’t see this coming is mystifying to me.
Completely agree re: Scott’s strategy of waiting out the market and believing somebody will cave.
Now that it hasn’t happened, I don’t see anybody rushing to pay them what he is looking for at this time.
As far as Cash correctly reading the market again, agree 100%.
There were some folks on here convinced Cash erred in not offering Johnny arbitration.
Imagine if he did? That would have cost the Yankees 10 million more than he may end up signing for this year.
Erica, I didn’t even see that, lol. Yep, that’s the concert – who knows? We may have been sitting next to each other!
My fav Everly Brothers song is “All I have to do is Dream” and my fav S&G song is Bridge over Troubled Water.
Erin, it was – really spectacular. I never in my life thought I’d get to see either of them in concert
austinmac
February 10th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
GB7–I expect you will become jealous when Nurse Karloff’s rubber gloves are being used on Randy. The popping sound of her putting on her gloves probably puts a smile on your face. You can tell us. We’ll keep a secret.
We might even get a bit of snow here in Austin. Brr.
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Hey, Mac. How are things today? Glad to see you back.
Yeah…Borissa and Randy….couldn’t happen to a better guy.
i still disagree about the nats. they have some talent and it is the national league. they have gotten better and the nats have signed some players. sure it isnt yankees/red sox level signings, but in the nl that doesnt mean anything. just watch.
Mac, I just re-read your post. Is it that cold in Austin, today? That’s a rare day to get snow.
Betsy, didn’t you like S&G’s version of “Bye Bye, Love”?
Cash set it best. They set a market value for Johnny. Their offer reflected it.
If you look at the offer objectively, it included an “atta boy” type of clause in it, showing their appreciation to Johnny to all that he has meant to the team.
That clause is in the form of the second year since NOBODY has offered him a second year in the marketplace at this time.
Cash wasn’t going to let Boras drag it out and watch his other options (ie: Nick Johnsoni) go by the wayside.
When they didn’t bite at the offer, he moved onto to Plan B.
When Cash talked publicly (something he NEVER does in negotiations) about how some agents can’t smell the coffee, he was specifically referring to Scott and this negotiation.
Even after December, the Yankees STILL made another run at him and they just couldn’t get Johnny and Scott to come back to Planet Earth on their demands.
You do what you can do and move on. Its not personal, its just business.
I feel bad for Johnny because he’s a good guy and was a good Yankee.
He’s just too much of a true believer of Scott and his methods and (IMO) it cost him bigtime.
If Damon wants to end up in NY at some point this year, start middle or end, then WHY does he insist on a 2 year contract with the loser teams he is talking to ?
Even after the Yankees aquired Granderson, Damon went on Mike Francessa’s show and said he would’ve signed for 2 years at $11M per year! How out-of-touch was that? He will be lucky to get 1/3 of that.
I like Johnny, but it was becoming reallly painful to watch him play the OF, if he goes to Atlanta, it is not going to end well…
Damon still wants to be paid as a top flight center fielder. Cashman and the rest of baseball sees him as a DH/part time left fielder and will only pay accordingly. This is, sadly the Bernie williams affair revisited.
GB7–It is mid-30s here with light rain that could turn into sleet or snow, or so the forecasters say. It does make for more viewers if they dscuss such things.
I am doing okay, thanks for asking. Neither of the deaths were unexpected. except they happen so close together. It was a bit weird, and hopeful, that somehow my mother seemed to know about her son’s upcoming death without being told by saying, “Don(my brother) is not afraid”. The next day she went into a terminal coma without saying anything else. I was able to communicate with her until the end. For that, I am grateful.
Awwwwwwwwwwww- there are two little kids building a snowman outside my window!!!!
GB,
Hope all goes well with your tests.
“Cash wasn’t going to let Boras drag it out and watch his other options (ie: Nick Johnsoni) go by the wayside.”
That strategy used to work so well for Boras. I think, for the most part, it has run its course though. GMs seem to have a better understanding of how damaging that is to their position. I guess it will take some time for Boras to adjust to this new dynamic and learn to strike deals when the time is right, because with GMs more unwilling to let alternatives pass and budget dollars disappearing more quickly than before, waiting out the market is certainly not what it used to be.
SJ, one thing you said that I disagree with is:
“He’s just too much of a true believer of Scott and his methods and (IMO) it cost him bigtime.”
Boras’s tactics made him close to $100 mil. over the course of his career. He has benefited greatly from Boras.
Boras most likely didn’t put the thought or time into Damon’s situation this offseason because he had bigger fish to fry, as was the case in years past when Damon was the big fish and other Boras clients got screwed while he was dealing with him.
a snowman is easily big enough to hide a dirty bomb or incendiary device, i’d call the nypd or better yet, homeland security…
Wang would be smart to go to the Nats on a short deal. There he will be able to pitch without pressure when he’s ready. He can prove himself and be able to sign a big deal (hopefully with Yanks) in a year or two.
Y’s Guy,
Saw your post on Girardi & Mattingly. I agree with you that Girardi was the right choice, but where did that come from?
austinmac
February 10th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
GB7–It is mid-30s here with light rain that could turn into sleet or snow, or so the forecasters say. It does make for more viewers if they dscuss such things.
I am doing okay, thanks for asking. Neither of the deaths were unexpected. except they happen so close together. It was a bit weird, and hopeful, that somehow my mother seemed to know about her son’s upcoming death without being told by saying, “Don(my brother) is not afraid”. The next day she went into a terminal coma without saying anything else. I was able to communicate with her until the end. For that, I am grateful.
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Mac, I can only go on what my mom told me about 40 years ago when my younger brother died. The worst thing a parent experiences is burying a child. As painful as losing a brother/sister or parent, that has to hurt more. at least your mom didn’t have to see that. Best of luck going forward, Bud.
Hope you get to have a snowball fight with your kids. No matter how old they are, be nice and let them win the first time.
Fran (the original) and OPPC member
February 10th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
GB,
Hope all goes well with your tests.
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Thank you for your kind thoughts, Fran. I appreciate that very much.
GB -
Hope the tests turn out well. Sounds like you’re hooking randy up with someone perfect for him…
There’s only so many “difference makers” out there and Johnny Damon isn’t one of them hence, his still looking for a team.
The market this year is clearly different from last year both in talent available and the market itself.
Scott Boras stuck by his usual philosophy of playing waiting games with General Managers and either couldn’t or wouldn’t read the market correctly. This will eventually burn him with future clients who will not want to become the next Johnny Damon of negotiations.
The World Series wasn’t over with and Cashman had his Plan B figured out. Boras should have known this.
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Awwwwwwwwwwww- there are two little kids building a snowman outside my window!!!!
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Keep watching, Erica. They’ll be fighting in about 15 minutes.
Welcome back GB. See, rescue mission wasn’t needed this time after all. Had the whole team ready too!
Wang on an NL team is just sad, particularly the Nationals, though they haven’t done so bad this offseason. After all, they picked up Brian Bruney.
Damon to the Braves seems like a fit. Can’t see him playing on that carpet in Tampa. And how ironic would it be to see him end up in Detroit, after we aquire Granderson. Virtual trade, with the Yankees getting the better player long-term.
GB7–If my college ballplayer son were in town I’m afraid he would win a snowball fight. I am limited now to off-speed stuff. Think Edwar Ramirez, minus 25 m.p.h. and plus a few pounds. I will let me 16 year old daughter win if the chance arises.
rodg12
February 10th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
GB -
Hope the tests turn out well. Sounds like you’re hooking randy up with someone perfect for him…
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Thanks, rodg. Yes, Randy richly deserves the “happiness”.
O/T but I noticed you guys had a bit of dialogue about octopus going on yesterday. I totally cracked up reading your comments because I have a 7-lb’er in the freezer.
Here we call it “tako” (pronounced taco) or “squid”.
The best way to eat it is “poke” style (poh-kay). You “lomi” (massage) it with coarse salt. Then cook it (under 2 min or over 20 min or it’ll be rubbery). Then you slice it and toss it with soy sauce, sesame oil, red pepper, diced tomato, sliced round onion, and green onion. Chill & serve. It’s great, and every time I see highlights of a Red Wing game, I get “ono” (hungry) for tako poke!
Bob,
Agreed, Scott made him a lot of money in his career.
Scott also cost him a big chunk of it by having him invest in Stanford Financial.
To that end, he needed to take greater control in this negotiation and not leave it all to Scott.
Not doing so cost him 14 million and a spot on the Yankees.
Big price to pay for being a Boras True Believer IMO.
GB -
All the best with your tests which I’m sure will go well.
Just don’t forget yourself and invite Nurse Karloff to spring training in Tampa.
Thumbs up !
Hello GB!!
Wishing you the best on your test results!
This Damon thing is really sad. It must be hard for Cash also to go really overboard on an offer after loaning money to keep him afloat and have it slammed into his face. Cash has been made out to ba a bad guy, when what else could he do? Write a 3 year contract to a guy that can’t play defense or remain healthy? Wierd!
Neil and GB7–I strongly advise the words “thumbs up” not be uttered while she wears her gloves.
Christina
Continuing on sounds like a good plan, it will make you that much more employable. Besides, most teacher openings are in the summer.
Will you be able to go to spring training this year?
What are these tests? I hope they weren’t spelling tests.
DaSaint007
February 10th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Welcome back GB. See, rescue mission wasn’t needed this time after all. Had the whole team ready too!
Wang on an NL team is just sad, particularly the Nationals, though they haven’t done so bad this offseason. After all, they picked up Brian Bruney.
Damon to the Braves seems like a fit. Can’t see him playing on that carpet in Tampa. And how ironic would it be to see him end up in Detroit, after we aquire Granderson. Virtual trade, with the Yankees getting the better player long-term
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Thanks for the kind thoughts, Simon. LMAO. keep the “A Team” ready, Simon. Randy may call in the reserves.
Somebody mentioned the sound of rubber gloves snapping. Talk a bout having the fear of God running through you. I get cold sweats everytime I hear somebody popping their gum.
I’m hoping that wang can rebuild his career. He was quite a talent and one of the few go-topitchers NYY had for 2 and a half years.
Not sure how I feel about Damon. Loved what he did for the team, but, he had become Jason Giambi-like with the glove. He’s just not a player that can command that big payday anymore. It’s sad that he didn’t see that and even worse that Boras would gamble Damon’s money for a wing and a prayer deal.
So the Tigers get rid of Curtis as a salary dump, but now want to sign Damon? That doesn’t seem to make any sense. How much less is Damon going to play for?
Can Damon finally sign, so he can be a foregone conclusion and we can put out efforts into better stuff like..
Gardner vs. Winn
Hughes vs. Joba
Johnson vs. Matsui
Thames vs. Johnson
Vasquez 10 vs. V-04
Burnett good vs. Burnett bad
Granderson vs. Ajax
Cervelli or what some call EYES vs. MONSTERO knocking on the door.
Did i miss any?
m, i was just reacting to someone who brought up the idea that mattingly might have been the yankees manager had things broken differently. i love donny baseball but i was for hiring Girardi at the time and I think time has shown that to be the right choice. Also consider that Mattingly had to leave the Dodgers right off the bat in L.A. because of family matters.
austinmac
February 10th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
GB7–If my college ballplayer son were in town I’m afraid he would win a snowball fight. I am limited now to off-speed stuff. Think Edwar Ramirez, minus 25 m.p.h. and plus a few pounds. I will let me 16 year old daughter win if the chance arises.
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I’m guessing that you can’t bribe your son to let you win with a hot-fudge sundae at Baskin-Robbins, huh? It always used to work.
austinmac
February 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Neil and GB7–I strongly advise the words “thumbs up” not be uttered while she wears her gloves.
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She’s scary. You feel real fear when she haves her finger at you. I swear that I can feel her wristwatch. I wasn’t even aware that nurses were supposed to do those.
GB7
I hope when you “bent” over to pat the “cat” the nurse wasn’t behind you.
Erica – always OPPC – Wishes Damon would fire Boras and COME HOME!
February 10th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Awwwwwwwwwwww- there are two little kids building a snowman outside my window!!!!
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Erica, you’re killing me. I’m down here in south Florida where it will actually drop into the high 40′s tonight but not with snow fall.
I’m wishing I was back on LI taking in the snow.
Very jealous.
when she **waves*** her finger
Again, I find it crazy for Wang to pitch in the NL.
Especially since his baserunning was the cause of his initial injury.
For Damon’s sake I would like to see him get a job. Then fire Borass.
GB, hey – how are you?
Are you kidding about S&G and Bye, Bye Love?
Interesting that Damon is in Hawaii on vacation while many Yankees are already working out at minor league complex in Tampa.
m
February 10th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
What are these tests? I hope they weren’t spelling tests.
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Mel, that’s just mean. I have a better chance of passing these tests than I do passing a spelling test.
Thanks for the kind thoughts and words, Neil….except for the thumb part.
I like Damon, but I really don’t feel sorry for him. Too bad – it’s his career and he didn’t take control over it. If he wanted to be a Yankee, he should have done what other Boras clients have done and told Scott to work it out with the Yankees.
I agree with you SJ that Damon shouldn’t have followed Boras off the ledge, but can you really blame him?
Damon obviously isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed to begin with. In Boras he has a guy who since he was a teenager has been getting tons of money for him. Of course when he told him this year he’d get him another great deal, Damon believed him. Why wouldn’t he?
I have zero sympathy for either.
And if what you said about the Yanks giving him a no interest loan to help him out after that Stanford fiasco is true, then Damon is getting exactly what he deserves here.
Interesting that Damon is in Hawaii on vacation while many Yankees are already working out at minor league complex in Tampa.
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Didnt Damon show up a couple years back with a gut(i believe it was Girardi’s first year)? Maybe hes doing his Favre impersonation and skipping practice to go straight to games.
Mel, that’s just mean. I have a better chance of passing these tests than I do passing a spelling test.
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That’s great. Cuz you’re spelings not two bed.
GB7–We all do hope and expect good test results for you.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Baskin-Robbins even exists anymore around here. Even if it did, I bet my son would enjoy a thrown snowball at old Dad.
Isn’t this at least the second time Damon was unavailable due to a vacation in the past month? I expect he wants all this to end.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 10th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
GB, hey – how are you?
Are you kidding about S&G and Bye, Bye Love?
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Hi, Betsy. I’m doing fine…just a little tired, but, should have the results back tomorrow.
Can’t believe that you’ve never heard S&G do “Bye Bye, Love”. It’s a live recording on “Bridge Over troubled Water”. George Harrison and Eric Clapton also recorded it on Harrison’s alblum “Dark Horse”. Both are great listens.
Anyone else have kids that were born with two different stomach compartments? One for Moms food and once they’re full and cant finish the plate, they open the other compartment for the sugar. Amazing how they always find space for the deserts.
For those that missed it, Curtis Granderson did a great interview on the Rome is Burning Show.
He already has a great working dialogue with Kevin Long and a great attitude.
m
February 10th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Mel, that’s just mean. I have a better chance of passing these tests than I do passing a spelling test.
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That’s great. Cuz you’re spelings not two bed.
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“Laughing”. I’m trying to think up a smartazs remark to you.
Betsy – you’re right. That’s all it would have taken. Scott Boras may be the super-agent, but Damon is the guy in charge. It is his career.
S.o.S.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Didnt Damon show up a couple years back with a gut(i believe it was Girardi’s first year)? Maybe hes doing his Favre impersonation and skipping practice to go straight to games.
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Was that the same year he quit on the team and went home?
Must be nice to take a Hawaiian vacation when you don’t have a job.
Simon and Garfunkel’s best is The Only Living Boy in New York.
GB, hugs to you; I know the tests will come out fine.
A girl I work with just lost her mother a couple of days ago. She had kidney cancer; they did remove the kidney, but I found out recently that it had spread to the lungs. It’s a real tragedy, especially since the girl that I work with is in a wheelchair and her mother took care of her all the time. They were very close – the father appears to be a real jerk (to put it kindly) from what I can tell and no one seems to think he’ll be up to the task.
My father’s friend just died a couple of days ago as well – he had pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, I think the diagnosis is basically a death sentence – but he fought it for a couple of years.
austinmac
February 10th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
GB7–We all do hope and expect good test results for you.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Baskin-Robbins even exists anymore around here. Even if it did, I bet my son would enjoy a thrown snowball at old Dad.
Isn’t this at least the second time Damon was unavailable due to a vacation in the past month? I expect he wants all this to end.
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Thanks, Mac, for the thoughts. Man, it used to be so easy to bribe or threaten kids. You can’t wait for ‘em to grow up, and when they do, you hate the wasted times that you don’t spend with them.
Its not GB fault, its that damn dictionary. It was never updated.
Aint didnt exit in it. Neither did the word Color.
Tom in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Simon and Garfunkel’s best is The Only Living Boy in New York.
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Great song-one of their best. My favorite S&G song is “Homeward Bound”. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is right up there too.
GB, I’ve never heard it; I wonder if I can find it on You Tube.
Joe, I really believe that and I’m not trying to sound like I’m hating on Damon, but the truth is the truth.
I love Homeward Bound, too. Right up there with Bridge is I am a Rock…there are times I could really identify with the person in that song as I am a very bookish, introverted person.
exit
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Meant exist. I guess we own the same one. Aint that a …..
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 10th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
GB, hugs to you; I know the tests will come out fine.
A girl I work with just lost her mother a couple of days ago. She had kidney cancer; they did remove the kidney, but I found out recently that it had spread to the lungs. It’s a real tragedy, especially since the girl that I work with is in a wheelchair and her mother took care of her all the time. They were very close – the father appears to be a real jerk (to put it kindly) from what I can tell and no one seems to think he’ll be up to the task.
My father’s friend just died a couple of days ago as well – he had pancreatic cancer. Unfortunately, I think the diagnosis is basically a death sentence – but he fought it for a couple of years.
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Thank you, Betsy. From what they’ve said, it wasn’t that advanced and not very aggressive. I got lucky.
Hey GB — good to hear from you here.. Are you staying overnight or heading back home. my best thoughts buddy
There’s an S and G song Damon must have memorized and tatooed on his chest- “Patterns”.
Bob,
Im trying to remember if he was 10, 15 or 20 pounds over weight. I want to say 15. I believe it was the year he had nagging calf problems. It was made into a big deal and Damon made it seem like he could shed it off before the season started.
Here you go, Betsy.
Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2-s7nrJpgg
Erin
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Tom in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Simon and Garfunkel’s best is The Only Living Boy in New York.
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Great song-one of their best. My favorite S&G song is “Homeward Bound”. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is right up there too.
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What, no Cecelia?
Garfunkels “I only have eyes for you” is a classic
YankeeRay
February 10th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Erin
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Tom in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Simon and Garfunkel’s best is The Only Living Boy in New York.
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Great song-one of their best. My favorite S&G song is “Homeward Bound”. “Bridge Over Troubled Water” is right up there too.
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What, no Cecelia?
Garfunkels “I only have eyes for you” is a classic
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“Cecelia”, absolutely. Another of my favorites. I have too many S&G favorites. lol
Finally leaving work-catch you all later.
Joe,
I thought you were talking about me, I was thinking, “How rude!”
Are you talking about Damon?
GB, thank heavens.
damon’s deal. 2 m ad 2 deferred from atl?
wow he really stuck it to the yankees… good work getting the best offer out there johnny/scott.
that deal sounds a lot better than the 2/14M we offered in december.
The most relevant S+G song on a day like today is – April Come She Will.
GB, thanks! I’m going to listen to that in a bit….I love Cecilia. I love too many S&G songs to list
Tyler Kepner reporting that the Braves offer is 1 year 2 million +2 million deferred if that is the case that is less than the Yankees LAST offer which was a bunch less than their first offer.
How an agent and player can be so off is really incredible. I also believe Boras has a handful of other free agents that have yet to sign.
S.o.S.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Bob,
Im trying to remember if he was 10, 15 or 20 pounds over weight. I want to say 15. I believe it was the year he had nagging calf problems. It was made into a big deal and Damon made it seem like he could shed it off before the season started.
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Yeah I remember all that.
Damon was a really good player and was a big part of #27, but I never cared for him as a person and am not the least bit upset he won’t be back.
I bet come May, once everyone gets a good look and Granderson, 99% of Yankee fans will be saying, Johnny Who?
Bronx Born
February 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Hey GB — good to hear from you here.. Are you staying overnight or heading back home. my best thoughts buddy
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Hey, Bronx. Thanks for the kind words/thoughts. If all goes well tomorrow, I’ll fly out tomorrow. Right now, I’m still not allowed humans…of course, some may think that should always be the case.
Still have to wear a mask, so luckily, the flight isn’t quite a full load. I’m getting ready to order a bring it to me dinner and then get to sleep. I have an early wakeup and appointments and hopefully off to the airport.
GB – best of luck to you. What a pal you are to hook up Randy with your nurse. They can take turns wearing the catcher’s mask.
i will crack up for hours if johnny is forced to accept that deal from the braves. i bet he is a huuuuuuuuuge falcons fan. can probably even name their mascot.
Tom in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Simon and Garfunkel’s best is The Only Living Boy in New York.
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No silly, My Little Town
GB-
“I’m getting ready to order a bring it to me dinner and then get to sleep. I have an early wakeup and appointments and hopefully off to the airport.”
I hope you set up your perimeter defenses before you doze off. Types like BK usually are nocturnal.
Bob(the original)
February 10th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Yeah I remember all that.
Damon was a really good player and was a big part of #27, but I never cared for him as a person and am not the least bit upset he won’t be back.
I bet come May, once everyone gets a good look and Granderson, 99% of Yankee fans will be saying, Johnny Who?
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You can DEFINITELY count me in the other 1% thankyouverymuch!
Betsy, if you want to hear a great tune from Art Garfunkel, listen to “Bright Eyes” from the ’70s TV cartoon movie, “Watership Down”. They just didn’t write or sing bad songs. One of the best of all time. by the way, they also sing “Wake Up, Little Suzie”.
GB -
I’m wishing you the best.
At this point, wouldn’t it almost be better for Damon to wait to see if someone gets injured during ST ?
bob-i co-sign on your thoughts. Still look at him as a Sox.
Well Johnny stuck to his guns. Dont present him with and offer lower than 13 x 2. He will instead save you the gas money and come to you.
DT – OPPC member
February 10th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
GB – best of luck to you. What a pal you are to hook up Randy with your nurse. They can take turns wearing the catcher’s mask.
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Do you think that I should be nice to Randy and tell him to wear his hazardous waste suit? Her table manners are quite as refined as the rest of her.
DT – OPPC member
February 10th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
GB – best of luck to you. What a pal you are to hook up Randy with your nurse. They can take turns wearing the catcher’s mask.
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Who is this DT person???
I don’t remember you
Man the braves have a thing for Yankee outfielders. Do we have anymore in the system can trade to them?
Btw GB7-
It kind of goes without saying but I hope you are feeling as spiffy and you act!
GB, Watership Down? I haven’t seen that in years…..I love Art Garfunkle’s voice; I can’t picture Paul Simon singing “Bridge”
MTU
February 10th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
GB-
“I’m getting ready to order a bring it to me dinner and then get to sleep. I have an early wakeup and appointments and hopefully off to the airport.”
I hope you set up your perimeter defenses before you doze off. Types like BK usually are nocturnal.
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She’s the best alarm there is, MTU. she drags her left hoof….errr…foot.
GB,
I think tongue action will be mission impossible for our friend Randy.
Doreen
February 10th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
GB -
I’m wishing you the best.
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Thank you very much for the kind words, Doreen. It’s much appreciated.
My favorite Simon and Garfunkel:
“America”
“Sounds of Silence”
“Why Don’T You Write Me”
S.o.S.-
“Man the braves have a thing for Yankee outfielders. Do we have anymore in the system can trade to them?”
And the Pirates like our leftovers !
2 teams in our hip pocket.
I’m just referring to the fact that, unlike Johnny Damon, I’m still dependent on getting a paycheck.
S.o.S.
February 10th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
GB,
I think tongue action will be mission impossible for our friend Randy.
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Please…I’m getting ready to try and eat.
Rich in NJ
February 10th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
My favorite Simon and Garfunkel:
“America”
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Do you count the cars on the New Jersey turnpike???
I always loved Garfunkels version of Jobim’s “The Waters of March”.
Here you go, Betsy. You’ll like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
It Erica and Erin are reading this, if you look over to the right side, you’ll see and hear the Muppets singing “baby Driver”.
GB7,
If you need a can opener or a nut cracker. You know where to go.
I don’t understand why there are so many negative remarks about Damon. Yes, he and Boras made a bad business decision. That doesn’t take away from what a good Yankee he was. He played hard, he played hurt and he was always available to talk to the media, good game or bad. From all accounts, he was a good club house guy.
To talk so much trash about him now sounds so red sox-ish
upstate kate
February 10th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I don’t understand why there are so many negative remarks about Damon. Yes, he and Boras made a bad business decision. That doesn’t take away from what a good Yankee he was. He played hard, he played hurt and he was always available to talk to the media, good game or bad. From all accounts, he was a good club house guy.
To talk so much trash about him now sounds so red sox-ish
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Thank you Kate for expressing how I feel!!!!!
(If I say these things I get told I am being over emotional)
Enjoy the Muppets greatest Hits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
You’ll love the Muppets sing “50 ways To Leave Your Lover” except when Randy interupts them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Erica
“Do you count the cars on the New Jersey turnpike???”
I have….
And the Pirates like our leftovers !
2 teams in our hip pocket.
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MTU,
I was trying to stay away from using Pirates and outfielders. Some in here still have an issue with the Tabata trade. Braves it is.
Sweet. I live near DC and have to suffer through watching MASN.
Seems there are a couple of reasons to watch the Nats now:
-One first round pick.
-One ex-Yankee Ace (kinda?)
-One ex-Yankee Reliever and noted K-Rod hater.
-Tyler “The Yankee” Clipper.
And a note on watching MASN. Nobody, and I mean nobody, was more surprised at the Yankees-Nats series last year than the super depressed MASN commentators. They practically scolded the Yankees for losing.
S.o.S
Tough loss Sunday. I was hoping the Colts would win so Pats fans would stop counting championships to decide who is the best QB.
Time to turn to your Spurs now. I hope they win the West but that’s where I stop. Hoping the Celtics get their act together to come out of the East.
S.o.S-
I was really referring to the large # of ex-farmhands we sent to the Pirates other than Tabata.
“Who is this DT person???
I don’t remember you”
Erica it is me! One of your favorite hissers. Or maybe I am a hissee. I get confused there.
I’ve had to work for a living the last few weeks! It ain’t fun!
http://www.newsday.com/sports/......1753094?p=
Jeter said he would address his contract situation, he’s entering the final year of a 10-year, $189 million contract, next week after the full New York media contingent, or most of it at least, arrives in Tampa.
GB Best of luck with all your tests etc
Best Simon and Garfunkle song no doubt The Boxer
“Best Simon and Garfunkle song no doubt The Boxer”
That was going to be my #4.
MainYankee,
That loss hurt. One team was playing with houses money(fearless), while the other was playing not to lose(tight). I hate that football grades the best on Super Bowls won. There are too many things that can go wrong for you during the season to just count that. I grew up a Marino fan. He went through his career without a defense or a running back. Does that make him less of a qb than Elway. Not in my opinion. Would he have won Super Bowls playing in Montanas position. Absolutely.
4 mistakes from the SB.
Missed catch by Garcon
Milking the clock before halftime cost them 3 points and momentum
Missed field goal
Onsite kick
Time to look forward to next year. They are 5 to 1 favorites.
Spurs need to unload Jefferson. This team isnt going to win like this. No chemistry. Celtics need to stay healthy. I still think they can oust Cleveland if they have their horses.
it’s not bashing damon as much as his decision. of course we wanted him back, but he put himself in this mess.
upstate kate
February 10th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I don’t understand why there are so many negative remarks about Damon. Yes, he and Boras made a bad business decision. That doesn’t take away from what a good Yankee he was. He played hard, he played hurt and he was always available to talk to the media, good game or bad. From all accounts, he was a good club house guy.
To talk so much trash about him now sounds so red sox-ish
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Yes, he is(was) a very good player. Probably a fun guy to go out and have a beer or two with even.
But there are quite a few things he’s done that make me not care for him. Like quitting on the team, showing up to camp out of shape, etc. Also, and yes I know he’s not the only ball player to do this kind of thing, but writing a book and bragging about cheating on your ex-wife with numerous women while she was pregnant with your kids really turns me off to a person.
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My thoughts on Wang..
Everyone is talking about how risky it is to sign him but they don’t put his injury in perspective. In the realm of shoulder injuries, his was very minor. Now don’t get me wrong, I know that all shoulder problems are death to pitchers but honestly this one wasn’t all that major.
I think that Wang will be back to his old self as early as the all-star break and by next year at the latest.
That being said, letting him go is the right move for the 2010 team. I think it will come back to hurt in the next few years but for this team I don’t see how they could have signed him. After seeing how the budget played out I don’t see the available money that could be used to sign him. He clearly isn’t going to make what he would have in arbitration and the Yankees can’t offer him more than a minor league deal at this point.
“Flowers Never Bend With The Rainfall” is one of the best of the early S&G songs, but, few seem to remember it. They also did a couple of others like “A Simple Desultory Phillipic (Or How I Was Robert McNamera’s Into Submission”. A little humor on the changing times.
Correction:
I Was Robert ***McNamara’d***
S.o.S
They did seem to be kinda flat in that game. Not the usual precision you normaly see.
I really liked Marino except when he played my Raiders. I was sorry he never got back to the SB after the first one. They were never out of a game with him at QB.
I heard some talk about the Spurs maybe getting Stoudamire(sp) from Phoenix.
MainYankee,
Wow Raider fan. I feel for you. My best friend is a big Raider fan and being in so.cal its either Raiders apperal or Chargers. So will they go get another qb in the offseason or stick with Russell? Do they look at him as another Ryan Leaf?
The Stoudamire talk was about 10 days to 2 weeks ago. They need something. I will go as far as saying trade Parker if you can land something big for him. Hill has done well when Parker has been shelved. And Jefferson just doesnt fit in their system. They need changes.
Boston Globe reports, “Joba threw off the mound, and Dave Eiland said he looked good.”
At this point Damon and Wang are low risk, high reward signings that our General Manager is not pursuing. He already missed the boat on another low risk, high reward deal in Erik Bedard, who just signed with the Mariners. Seeing how all three of these are much more talented than what we’ve got, either our GM is asleep at the wheel or challenged or both.
Yeah, the GM who assembled a world championship team is asleep at the wheel. Comedy at it’s finest.
How are Wang and Bedard low risk? Each are coming off their second shoulder surgery and both want major league contracts. Bedard hates NY and is Kevin Brown-like in a clubhouse.
Damon turned down every offer from the Yankees. You can’t force him to sign.
Do some homework before spewing nonsense.
I don’t understand why Wang are so desperate to get a deal done at this moment.
He is not recovered 100% yet. He should have waited until mid-season to sign a real good big league deal.
Rushing when it’s not ready will only hurt him.
“The GM who assembled a World Championship Team”? He assembled $420 million to buy a World Championship Team to bail himself out after running that “World Championship Team” into the ground. Not only that, after breaking the budget to bail himself out, he now has the nerve to plead poverty in not being able to sign obvious low risk, high reward types. “The GM who assembled a World Championship Team” needs to be replaced by a competent GM who doesn’t have to drive the club to the financial brink in order to make the team competitive