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No guarantees for long relief candidates

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Sergio Mitre is not the only fifth starter/long relief candidate with a non-guaranteed contract. Brian Cashman confirmed this afternoon that Chad Gaudin’s deal is also non-guaranteed.

That means the Yankees have alternatives for each of their multi-inning pitchers who could be affected by the Chan Ho Park signing.

Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes and Alfredo Aceves have options remaining, so they can be sent to Triple-A. Mitre and Gaudin could be released in spring training without the Yankees being responsible for their contracts.

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243 Responses to “No guarantees for long relief candidates”

  1. lets go yankees February 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    I think we need a little perspective here just on how hard it is to even pitch to a sub 3.5 ERA in the AL. These are the top 10 ERAs from 2009:

    1. Greinke: 2.16
    2. Felix: 2.49
    3. Halladay: 2.79
    4. CC: 3.37
    5. Lester: 3.41
    6. Verlander: 3.45
    7. Jackson: 3.62
    8. Millwood: 3.67
    9. Weaver: 3.75
    10. Danks: 3.77

    It is great to love home grown guys but expecting Joba or Phil to pitch to even sub 3.5 ERA’s would make them elite pitchers in the American League.

    You guys really think Phil is going to be in CC, Lester, and Verlander’s class in a couple years?

    If you do then I have a feeling a lot of you are going to be sorely disappointed.

    If even one of Joba or Phil settle into the 3.6-3.8 range I would be estatic as they would be excellent number 2’s behind CC.

    If they consistently pitch to sub 4 ERAs over the next few years I would be very happy and you guys should as well.

  2. teddy February 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    good mitre pretty much useless. i don’t mind guadin

  3. Melkman is in Hotlanta February 23rd, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    Cashame should have offered 2/16 to match Detroit. Once the tight hammy keeps NJ out of a game we shall miss the good old days of the tight calf muscle. What has Granderson done during the winter months to improve his ability to hit lefties? Damon was an offensive master and NJ/CG won’t make up the difference. Watch the Granderson K express come to a ballpark near you.

  4. 108 stitches February 23rd, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Even if Chan Ho Park were not in the picture, Mitre would be on the bubble.
    It’s hard to imagine either Joba, Phil, or Aceves starting the season at AAA.
    As soon as Park is caught up with his bullpen sessions, a decision could be made with Gaudin. Melancon is throwing well which also complicates the bullpen decisions.

  5. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Chad,

    You might want to check with Cashman, but I think the Yankees will have to pay them a prorated portion of their salary depending on when they release them. It’s either a 30 or 45 day prorated portion of their 2010 salary.

  6. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    What does that mean for Gaudin? That they can cut him and not pay most of his salary? I like Gaudin as a versatile piece in the pen and I hope he makes the team.

    Jerkface, I definitely was under the wrong impression re: the pitching landscape in the AL. Thanks for doing that research – I appreciate it.

  7. SJ44 February 23rd, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Thank God for this post.

    Now we won’t have to read a zillion Chip posts as to why Aceves will be traded because of the money the Yankees have tied up in Mitre and Gaudin.

  8. Chad Jennings February 23rd, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Yes, they’ll have to pay a pro-rated amount, depending on when they’re released, but no more than a month or so worth of their contract.

  9. lets go yankees February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    blake
    February 23rd, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    I think when you have two young guys, one of which you aren’t sure if he’s a starter or a reliever and one that you are sure is a starter then you go with the one who you know is a starter. I’m not suggesting that’s how the Yankees feel about joba and Hughes but that’s about how I feel.

    ————————–

    What makes anyone sure Hughes is a starter?

    In fact you could make the argument that Hughes is actually better suited to be a reliever than Joba as he was arguably better in the bullpen last year than Joba was in 2007.

  10. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Cashman won’t say so until Park is officially signed, but you have to wonder if his contract is non-guaranteed too.

  11. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! February 23rd, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Melkman, I greatly mourned your loss, but moving on becomes a necessity and so I did. That said, I would take one Granderson over a million Damons and I will tell you why. (My baseball prejudice definitely comes into play here – and also the reality of the Yankee situation.) The Yankees can much better afford a string of Ks from Granderson, should it happen, because what he will do in the field will more than make up for it. There is more than enough offense to go around on the Yankees. Defense, on the other hand, turned into Damon’s weak suit.

    Damon did what every other player in a contract year does – gave one hell of a year. I am a believer in declining skills especially when a player hits 36 and seems to be physically breaking down.

    I admit I wanted Damon back, but for a year with the Yanks having the option for a second year, and definitely only as a DH. I am thrilled with Nick Johnson as DH. Nick Johnson has been injury prone, but only as a 1B. As soon as we got NJ, I saw Damon as totally expendable. He would have been sweet as a bench player, but that is something that he would not have liked, IMO.

  12. lets go yankees February 23rd, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Joba was also able to stay healthy for a full season as a starter in the big leagues. Something Hughes has not been able to do in his short career.

  13. m February 23rd, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Well, Greinke’s contract status is certainly news, at least to me. But I think he sticks.

    I want to see Hoffman stick, but those odds are long.

    From the previous thread. People are joking about Robbie’s performance possibly being affected by the Melky trade, right? Sure he’ll miss his buddy, but Melky didn’t make Robbie the player he is today.

    Not sure I buy trade Melky to break up the party line of thinking either.

    Anyhoo, anyone else pleased to see more than a few players show up in better shape? Alex, Swisher, Albaladejo, Hughes right off the top of my head.

    I’m sure Erin will tell us how Cano looks. Who’s checking in on Granderson?

  14. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    “Yes, they’ll have to pay a pro-rated amount, depending on when they’re released, but no more than a month or so worth of their contract.”

    Chad,

    It’s either 30 or 45 days. I think it’s the latter if the player is released on March 31st.

  15. Bronx Jeers February 23rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Gaudin was very good as the “brooding figure who may or may not have to come in and unleash hell if the game goes 15 innings” role.

    Frankly, he may have been the best the Yanks ever had.

  16. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    It’s 30 days if a player is released earlier in March.

  17. Joe from Long Island February 23rd, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Interesting post. It looks like Cash has this thing figured out, doesn’t it.

    Though, if I had to guess, I’d guess that neither Mitre nor Gaudin gets cut, that if they don’t make the squad, they get traded. Pitching, even if not top notch, is always in demand.

  18. m February 23rd, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Garr, that’s Gaudin’s status, not Greinke.

  19. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    I have no idea who this DePaula kid is, but it appears the Yankees got outbid by the Ms. I can’t deal with the NYYFans minor league forum because they all seem to actually hate the organization – they are REALLY steamed about this.

    http://twitter.com/WWWUZzCOM

    This guy is apparently a legit source for DR prospects

  20. Rich on the 6 train February 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Nice of Cashman to give us more to discuss regarding the arms race. Now I am even more convinced Mitre is gone before the season starts.
    Unless he has found his sinker. For his sake I hope he does.

  21. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Erin-

    where are you?????

  22. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Chad, thanks!

    Re: DePaula, I don’t get how the Yankees got caught sleeping ? I have to admit that they seem to be making an awful lot of mistakes in the IF market

  23. sierchio February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    I suggested to Sam/Chad to do a post on the Yankee players with tattoos… taking pictures and explaining meaning, ect ect. Anybody else think that’s a good idea?

  24. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Betsy-

    I want to apologize to you if it seemed like I was picking a fight with you this morning. That was not my attention

  25. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Or my intention-

    grrrr…
    (Still for Betsy)

  26. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    “I have no idea who this DePaula kid is, but it appears the Yankees got outbid by the Ms. I can’t deal with the NYYFans minor league forum because they all seem to actually hate the organization – they are REALLY steamed about this.”

    Betsy,

    Even those Yankee fans complaining, don’t have a good idea about DePaula. Also, I rather wait until this rumor is confirmed by more than one source down in the DR.

  27. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    “Re: DePaula, I don’t get how the Yankees got caught sleeping ? I have to admit that they seem to be making an awful lot of mistakes in the IF market”

    Or they’re signing somebody else instead of DePaula.

  28. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! February 23rd, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Blake, granted this is part “feel” as much as anything, but I think that Hughes is well suited to be a starter because of his maturity level. Joba seems to be more excitable and less in control of his emotions. But both Joba and Phil came to the Yankees that way. Phil has always been a very mature individual. I always think that bodes well for a starting pitcher. I admit ambivalence even as I think about it because Joba’s stuff, when he controls it, can definitely translate to starting stuff. I would say that as of right now, Phil has the edge, even if it isn’t by much. JMO

  29. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    If i’m not mistaken, The Yanks have a full 40 man roster…before agreeing to Park’s contract. I assume that NYY will be unloading a player shortly in order to sign Park officially. I don’t see him coming to camp without a signed deal. Any talk about who goes and when the deal gets signed?

  30. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Bye, bye Edwar?

  31. m February 23rd, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Perhaps DePaula is following the Follow Freddy Garcia tradition?

    Or there are other teams also willing to spend money on IFA?

  32. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Erica, no problem and I apologize as well. My comment about Damon came off wrong – I knew what I wanted to say, but I didn’t say it the right way. Friends again? LOL

    By the way, I hope it hasn’t happened yet (I forget), but I think Elmo is supposed to make a guest appearance at Borders in Syosset soon..

    Craw, I probably let myself get too influenced by what goes on there, but they all seem so angry, as if DePaula is the next Honus Wagner. I’m much better avoiding that forum in general, lol.

  33. Patrick February 23rd, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Did I read earlier today that Christian Garcia is injured again? If so, details anyone?

    If Garcia is healthy I expect Edwar to get cut for Park.

  34. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    Erin-

    where are you?????

    *************************
    Erica-I’m here! Just got home from work. What did I miss??

  35. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    “Craw, I probably let myself get too influenced by what goes on there, but they all seem so angry”

    Betsy,

    They’re always angry on that forum. Some of those boys take themselves too seriously.

  36. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Whoever gets whacked, I’m sure that NYY will try and trade them first before just releasing them.

  37. RayVT February 23rd, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    I believe Edwar is going to be DFA’d.

  38. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Erica-I’m here! Just got home from work. What did I miss??

    **********

    My Sesame Street snow globe has Elmo, Zoe, Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Grover, Ernie, Bert and Oscar. LOL

    And I lied earlierm I have TWO small Ernies on my desk and a Grover. I also have a Kermit the Frog. And a picture of Fozzie Bear.

  39. m February 23rd, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    GB7,

    How does that work? Does Cash just send an e-mail saying they’re going to be moving a player? Call if you want to make a deal? :P

  40. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    NYYfans is no different than RAB and the bleedovers on this site….full of cliques and a one track mind. If you don’t accept their way of thinking or agree with them, they try shouting you down or just freezing you out.

  41. crawdaddy February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    “Whoever gets whacked, I’m sure that NYY will try and trade them first before just releasing them.”

    I thought that was a given about trying to trade them before releasing them.

  42. Joe from Long Island February 23rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    Betsy, why do you think the Yanks are making mistakes in the IFA market?

  43. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Mel, e-mails, calls, wires….whatever he uses, you can be sure that this deal with Park didn’t happen overnight, so, he’s probably been lining up possible trades for a couple of weeks. That’s just my guess, though.

  44. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Erica-I’m here! Just got home from work. What did I miss??

    **********

    My Sesame Street snow globe has Elmo, Zoe, Big Bird, Cookie Monster, Grover, Ernie, Bert and Oscar. LOL

    And I lied earlierm I have TWO small Ernies on my desk and a Grover. I also have a Kermit the Frog. And a picture of Fozzie Bear.

    ****************************
    How cute! I would love to get a look at it-I’ll have to Google Sesame Street snow globes and see what comes up. :)

    Let me think what I have at my desk-I have a little Ernie (I’ve looked everywhere for a Bert but can’t find one :( )and a little Cookie Monster, and a Muppet Babies Kermit. As for pictures, I’ve got one of E&B, and one of that world famous composer Don Music.

  45. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    One commodity that Cashman has plenty of is cheap, excess pitching….though most are better fits in the NL or big ballparks.

  46. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    How can you guys have Muppet snow globes without having Emmitt Otter And His Jugband snow globes?

  47. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Craw, I put several people on ignore and I’m much happier. I don’t mind a few tiffs now and then with my board friends because that’s going to happen, but when it gets personal…….why the heck bother? It’s supposed to be fun. They really are angry over there…..I guess that’s their problem. I wouldn’t want to be angry all the time

  48. Shane February 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    GreenBeret—I agree.

    I was blocked from commenting on RAB because I insinuated that I much preferred the work of Mike and Joe to that of Ben. Not more than 15 minutes after that comment, I had my commenting privileges revoked.

    Not that I minded too terribly, as the commenting over there is generally comprised of inside jokes that ceased being funny months ago. I still peruse the site once every few days and simply read over what Mike and Joe have to say, skim Ben’s typically worthless posts and avoid the comments altogether.

  49. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 pm
    Erica, no problem and I apologize as well. My comment about Damon came off wrong – I knew what I wanted to say, but I didn’t say it the right way. Friends again? LOL

    By the way, I hope it hasn’t happened yet (I forget), but I think Elmo is supposed to make a guest appearance at Borders in Syosset soon..

    ***********

    Of course we are!!

    And thank you for the heads up. I will definitely check that out. I work nearby!

  50. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Joe, I admit I get influenced too easily by things people say on that particular board. I think I said it because it seems lately that the Yankees keep getting outbid by teams like the Ms and As

  51. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    How cute! I would love to get a look at it-I’ll have to Google Sesame Street snow globes and see what comes up.

    Let me think what I have at my desk-I have a little Ernie (I’ve looked everywhere for a Bert but can’t find one )and a little Cookie Monster, and a Muppet Babies Kermit. As for pictures, I’ve got one of E&B, and one of that world famous composer Don Music.

    *******
    Poor Bert is so forgotten

    Btw- I am pretty sure if you go to the Sesame Place website, you can buy merchandise from there online

  52. DaSaint007 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    It’s unlikely that Mitre beats out Gaudin and Aceves for a spot on this roster.

    I think Aceves is a lock. The Park signing makes it interesting, but it also makes several arms potential affordable trade bait prior to Opening Day.

  53. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
    How can you guys have Muppet snow globes without having Emmitt Otter And His Jugband snow globes?

    ***********************
    If I ever come across an Emitt Otter snow globe I will let you know.

  54. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes February 23rd, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Re: DePaula, I don’t get how the Yankees got caught sleeping ? I have to admit that they seem to be making an awful lot of mistakes in the IF market
    ====

    Arangure tweeted that Seattle thing is premature.

  55. Melkman is in Hotlanta February 23rd, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    Trishalicious, at the end of 2010 we will see the superior, offensive Damon production vs Grandy. Cash should have swallowed his pride and ponied 8 million for two guaranteed season for Damon. This would be a big value considering Damon handled NY well, is a huge clubhouse contributer, performs under pressure….. I think a lot of Yankee fans took Damon’s pluses for granted. Does Granderson have what it takes to elevate his performance during a World Series game? Does he have what it takes to grind out at bats under intense scrutiny and pressure? J Damon is now in a contract year with Detroit so he’s going to way outperform Grandy. Mark my words.

    NJ will stay injury free as a DH? That’s a bet most shouldn’t take. It’s sad to say.

  56. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Thanks, Bodh!

    Erica, I prefer Bert by far ..but Cookie Monster and Oscar were my favorites

  57. pat February 23rd, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    m

    Cash said he used text messages alot this off-season to stay in touch with GMs.

    He said it’s easier to make a questionable suggestion that way rather than hear a guys reaction on the phone.

  58. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes February 23rd, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Patrick
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:11 pm
    Did I read earlier today that Christian Garcia is injured again? If so, details anyone?
    If Garcia is healthy I expect Edwar to get cut for Park.
    ====

    How bout it blogmasters – Garcia???

    If I missed a note by Sam/Chad, sorry. I seem only capable of skimming these days.

  59. eric February 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Seems like arod’s keeping his mouth shut…good sign http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....0dvNUrVIMI

  60. Joe from Long Island February 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Betsy – don’t let others govern what you think. I mean, I don’t want to get up on a soapbox, but some it’s come to my attention that some who comment on blogs are a little full of themselves.

    In regards to the Yanks and their IFA signings, I don’t pretend to know anything about what’s going on, other than what I read here and there. I do know that there are many questions regarding birthdays, and fudged stats. Plus, these kids are supposedly 15-17 years old, who knows how they will progress.

    What I do know for a fact is that the Yanks seem to have done well with at least a couple of IF signings – Aceves, Pena, Cervelli, and this kid Montero. I hear he’s supposed to be pretty good.

  61. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes February 23rd, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Melkman,

    I’m a bit deflated over lost bats too, but not much can be done about it now.

    The lineup is still strong, though it is more vulnerable to LHP, and not the nearly invincible circular lineup of last fall.

    One thing I’m not concerned about too much is NJ in 2-spot. With Teix and Alex behind him, he doesn’t really have to be fleet.

  62. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Erica-I definitely have to go to Sesame Place. To quote Liz Lemon “I want to go to there” lol It looks so cool! I looked at the “store”, and it said something about if you have an inquiry on a gift to e-mail a certain address. It doesn’t look like there’s an actual store on the site.

  63. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Erin/Erica, here’s a little reading you might enjoy.

    http://christmas-specials.wiki....._Christmas

  64. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    Thanks, Bodh!

    Erica, I prefer Bert by far ..but Cookie Monster and Oscar were my favorites

    ***********************
    Everybody loves Cookie Monster and Oscar :)

  65. m February 23rd, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    pat,

    That makes sense. It’s all part of the process. ;)

  66. randy l. February 23rd, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    “3. He wants to be better with runners in scoring position.
    “That’s one of the things I’m going to work on with men on base, be patient and swing at a ball that I can drive,” Cano said.?”

    in the traditional baseball world improvement in clutch situations is possible, but in the sabermetric world it’s not.

    the sabermetric world believes there is no such thing as clutch , so how can cano learn to be more of something that doesn’t exist.

    in the sabermetric world cano can to do better with runners in scoring position. the sabermetrican coach would say he should treat every at bat the same.

    this is a key difference that’s important between old school and new school.

    if you are a hitting coach who is into sabermetrics, what do you tell cano?

    i’m guessing the answer from the sabermetric coach is that all at bats are the same and doen’t even look at stats that don’t matter like rbis. . i would think he wouldn’t even work with cano on his problems with men in scoring position because i would think the hitting coach would say it will all average out and be the same as cano’s other at bats once hitting men on in scoring position is a larger sample.

    long obviously is taking an old school approach and he is assuming that he can help cano be more clutch if he works with him in the right way.

    this has to be different than what a sabermetric coach would do.

    he would just say go do what you always do.

    this shows the limitations of sabermetrics when it’s applied to on field activities.

    personally, i think there are lots of things long can do to help cano hit better in clutch situations.

  67. Erica - always OPPC February 23rd, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Erica-I definitely have to go to Sesame Place. To quote Liz Lemon “I want to go to there” lol It looks so cool! I looked at the “store”, and it said something about if you have an inquiry on a gift to e-mail a certain address. It doesn’t look like there’s an actual store on the site.

    ***********

    Okay Erin-

    Lets go together. Maybe then it will look less weird we don’t have children with us. LOL.

    Btw- they changed it- you used to def be able to shop online

  68. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Erin/Erica, here’s a little reading you might enjoy.

    http://christmas-specials.wiki….._Christmas

    ************************
    Thanks GB! No wonder I’m not familiar with it-they stopped showing it on TV 4 years before I was born. lol

    I think I’m going to have to order myself a copy though-I got all excited seeing that the 5 main “Muppeteers” all do characters :)

  69. randy l. February 23rd, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    “I was blocked from commenting on RAB because I insinuated that I much preferred the work of Mike and Joe to that of Ben.”

    ben’s a weenie.

  70. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Randy, do you think that part of Cano’s troubles was a matter of patience in his pitch selection, because for half of the season the two guys hitting behind him were either Cabrera and Molina or Gardner and Cervelli, and that made him a little jumpy and overanxious?

  71. Pat M. February 23rd, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    New Post>>>>>>>

  72. Erin February 23rd, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Erica-I definitely have to go to Sesame Place. To quote Liz Lemon “I want to go to there” lol It looks so cool! I looked at the “store”, and it said something about if you have an inquiry on a gift to e-mail a certain address. It doesn’t look like there’s an actual store on the site.

    ***********

    Okay Erin-

    Lets go together. Maybe then it will look less weird we don’t have children with us. LOL.

    Btw- they changed it- you used to def be able to shop online

    ********************
    LOL We should totally plan a trip there! You’re right-maybe it won’t look quite as weird with the whole no kids thing. :)

  73. GreenBeret7 February 23rd, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    Erin
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    GreenBeret7
    February 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    Erin/Erica, here’s a little reading you might enjoy.

    http://christmas-specials.wiki….._Christmas

    ************************
    Thanks GB! No wonder I’m not familiar with it-they stopped showing it on TV 4 years before I was born. lol

    I think I’m going to have to order myself a copy though-I got all excited seeing that the 5 main “Muppeteers” all do characters

    ————————————————————

    so…you think that I’m so old, huh?

    Erin: “I’m sorry, but, I’m just so much younger than everyone else that I don’t know about those old-timey things from wayyyyy back in the 1970s.”

    Picture me sticking my tongue out at you.

    A few months ago, I linked so clips of the show and some hilarious outtakes from the show.

  74. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! February 23rd, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Melkman, then it will be an unfair comparison as Damon is in a contract year but would not have been so had he been offered two years by the Yankees. Les pommes et les oranges.

  75. ko February 23rd, 2010 at 7:32 pm

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