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Notes from Wednesday

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Feb 24, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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When pitchers and catchers arrived in Tampa last week, Joe Girardi said the competition for the back of the rotation would not begin right away. The same is true of the competition for the Yankees outfield.

“You watch their swings and during BP taking routes after baseballs,” Girardi said. “But the true test really comes when we start playing games. They’re just getting their work in, and they’re getting their feet under them and their legs strong and their hands strong for hitting, and they’re trying to strengthen their arms. Now we want to make sure their healthy and ready to go. That’s what this week is for.”

While Brett Gardner seems to be the favorite, Girardi said this is a competition. He’s mentioned several times that Randy Winn — that’s him in the picture — will compete for an everyday role.

“Gardy still has to go out and win the job and play at a high level because we feel like we have depth and guys that want to play everyday as well,” Girardi said.

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CC and AJ

• The Group 1 pitchers will throw live batting practice tomorrow – that group includes Chad Gaudin, Sergio Mitre and Alfredo Aceves — but Girardi said it’s still too early to start making judgments about the rotation. “It’s their first time seeing hitters, and hitters aren’t ready to go… A lot of guys will go up there and just see pitches and not take a lot of swings.”

• The Jesus Montero show continues. Today he hit one over the batter’s eye in center field. Based on where the balls landed, I don’t think he made an out during his first eight swings in the cage: Double to the right-center gap, single up the middle, double to the left-field corner, double down the left-field line, single to left-center, double off the wall in left-center, single to right, foul line drive to left.

• I also saw Marcus Thames hit today. He crushed the ball a few times.

• This morning I mentioned which groups of infielders were working together during fielding drills, but I didn’t mention the outfielders:
Group 1: Gardner, Granderson, Hoffmann, Swisher, Winfree
Group 2: Curtis, Golson, Gorecki, Thames, Weber, Winn

• Double-A manager Tony Franklin showed up today. He walked into the clubhouse and gave first baseman Jorge Vazquez a big hug, then did the same with left-handed reliever Wilkins Arias.

• Pitchers who threw today: CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Javier Vazquez, Wilkin De La Rosa and Andrew Brackman. To be honest, I only watched for about two minutes. I paid more attention to the position players. Most pitchers are at the point in the schedule that they have a second day off before throwing live BP, that’s why only five pitchers were on the mound today.

That’s CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett in the picture above. They’re walking into the stadium after their bullpen. Below is Colin Curtis and Kevin Russo warming up before tracking fly balls during batting practice.

Colin and Russo

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275 Responses to “Notes from Wednesday”

  1. hobbie February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I would like to see Joba win the fifth starter role and I would like to have the Yanks let Hughes start at Scranton. That way Hughes will be stretched out with an adequate number of innings this year and can slot in to Pettite’s spot in the Rotation when Andy retires next season. Robertson would be your 8th inning guy

  2. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    not sure how many are watching the clips on MLB-TV with Harold Reynolds explainations of Jeter’s improved defense. He mentions that defense depends on the pitchers on the team and knowing their tendancies and how many times a guy like Pettitte hits his spots. worth a watch.

  3. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Orcas are indeed Dolphins.

    But, while the common perception is that dolphins are sweet cuddly animals, in reality dolphins are incredibly aggressive by nature.

  4. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day February 24th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Good stuff – thanks, Chad!

  5. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
    not sure how many are watching the clips on MLB-TV with Harold Reynolds explainations of Jeter’s improved defense. He mentions that defense depends on the pitchers on the team and knowing their tendancies and how many times a guy like Pettitte hits his spots. worth a watch.

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    I saw that and thought of last nights debate. :lol:

  6. Erin February 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Love the picture of CC and AJ :)

  7. Uncle Ellsworth February 24th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    “The whale was blamed for the drowning of one of his trainers in 1991 while he was performing at Sealand of the Pacific in Victoria, British Columbia, the newspaper said.

    Sold to SeaWorld as a stud in 1992, the whale was involved in a second incident when authorities discovered the body of a naked man lying across his back in July 1999.”

    serial killer whale

  8. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Uncle-

    “serial killer whale”.

    That Orca has a spout loose.

    Time to free willy before he kills again, or turn him into fertilizer.

  9. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    GreenBeret7
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
    not sure how many are watching the clips on MLB-TV with Harold Reynolds explanations of Jeter’s improved defense. He mentions that defense depends on the pitchers on the team and knowing their tendencies and how many times a guy like Pettitte hits his spots. worth a watch.

    —————————————–

    I saw that and thought of last nights debate.

    ————————————————————

    How many “old timers” have said the same thing about defense depending on knowing your own pitchers tendencies and them hitting their spots, only to be told that the numbers say “whatever”? I’d say that Reynolds has a little more credibility that numbers. all in all, a great piece on defense and not just Jeter.

  10. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Next time you are on vacation and someone offers you to swim with whales think about the SeaWorld trainer.

    If someone offers you to swim with dolphins…Well, bottle-nose dolphins have been known to rape other dolphins, kill porpoise’s and their young for fun, and sexually harass or injure humans.

  11. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    So, maybe a pitching staff of Darrell Rasners, et al, takes its toll on the defense? ;)

  12. Jerkface February 24th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Its far safer to swim with the gentleman of the sea, the walrus.

  13. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    GB7

    They do a good job of teaching the game on MLB. Some interesting personalites as well.

  14. Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    I just saw that Harold Reynolds analysis of Jeter’s defense. Very interesting piece for me, and not just about Jeter. I really like MLBN because of how frequently I learn something new about the game.

  15. Erin February 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
    “The whale was blamed for the drowning of one of his trainers in 1991 while he was performing at Sealand of the Pacific in Victoria, British Columbia, the newspaper said.

    Sold to SeaWorld as a stud in 1992, the whale was involved in a second incident when authorities discovered the body of a naked man lying across his back in July 1999.”

    serial killer whale

    *********************
    LOL

    How many more days ’til the trip Uncle E? It must be getting close!!

  16. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    So, maybe a pitching staff of Darrell Rasners, et al, takes its toll on the defense?

    ——————————————

    Not so much who was pitching but that if a pitcher missed location it had an effect on how a fielder looked because of the missed location.

  17. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    So, maybe a pitching staff of Darrell Rasners, et al, takes its toll on the defense?

    ————————————————————

    Not sure about the Rasners of the pitching world, but, I’d think playing behind guys like Burnett and Chamberlain would be less fun than Sabathia and Pettitte. “What the heck are you doing out her, Chamberlain? You’re killing my UZR.”

  18. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Sold to SeaWorld as a stud in 1992, the whale was involved in a second incident when authorities discovered the body of a naked man lying across his back in July 1999.”

    serial killer whale

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    Not fair!

    That guy waited till the park closed and jumped in the tank.

    The whale just wanted to play a little game of “kiss & run” with his new friend.

  19. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    What the heck are you doing out ***here***

  20. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Maine Yankee -

    Ah, okay. :)

    So even good pitchers who miss location. Okay.

  21. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Story was that in the two prior incidents, the whale was playing. They really don’t know what caused the whale to do this this time. His only job at Sea World was the giant splash at the end of the show.

  22. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
    GB7

    They do a good job of teaching the game on MLB. Some interesting personalites as well.

    ————————————————————

    Amzinger and MaGrane are not two of my favorites, but, they do put together some great tutorials for kids and a lot of inside stuff for “older kids”.

  23. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Joe from Long Island
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    I just saw that Harold Reynolds analysis of Jeter’s defense. Very interesting piece for me, and not just about Jeter. I really like MLBN because of how frequently I learn something new about the game.

    ————————————————————

    Where were these shows and instructors like this when we were kids? We all could have been major league stars.

  24. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    A People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) spokesman said the attack was “a tragedy that didn’t have to happen”.

    “For years, PETA has been calling on Sea World to stop confining ocean going mammals to an area that to them is like the size of a bathtub, and we have also been asking the park to stop forcing the animals to perform silly tricks over and over again,” spokesman David Perle said.

    “It’s not surprising when these huge, smart animals lash out.”

    PETA has a bad reputation, but pretty rational response to the death in this case.

  25. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    “But the true test really comes when we start playing games.”

    =======

    You mean if you tear it up in spring training your not certain to be playing in April? Phelps was the MVP of spring training not long ago. Gardner was the homerun champ(i believe)just a year ago. Who’s turn is it this year to be voted into the spring training HOF?

  26. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    GB7

    It’s real funny when Williams says something really of the wall(which is most of the time) and to see the look the others give him.

    Saw Reynolds and Larkin demonstrating how to teach hitting last night which was interesting.

  27. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    The Hell with Peta. It’s run by idiots that have no trouble with harassing, beating up, setting fires and killing people, that they only suspect others of cruelty to animals. They have a lot in common with that other fringe nut faction.

  28. Erin February 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    GreenBeret7
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
    The Hell with Peta. It’s run by idiots that have no trouble with harassing, beating up, setting fires and killing people, that they only suspect others of cruelty to animals. They have a lot in common with that other fringe nut faction.

    *****************
    GB, a guy I work with has a PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals bumper sticker lol

  29. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    GB7

    It’s real funny when Williams says something really of the wall(which is most of the time) and to see the look the others give him.

    Saw Reynolds and Larkin demonstrating how to teach hitting last night which was interesting.

    ————————————————————

    People think that Al Leiter is a bit flakey and wired up, but, he’s a great instructor, especially breaking it down to the lowest levels. His sock demonstration last year was not only hilarious, but, quite instructive.

  30. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Where were these shows and instructors like this when we were kids? We all could have been major league stars.

    =======
    GB,
    When my boy played baseball a few years back. The little league website had a comics on the front page. It had a before “kid gets a bat and glove from dad.” NOW “kids get personal instructor”.

    I remember having to use a league bat when i played. Plus having to share batting helmets with lice boy. I was the cool one with batting gloves on bothe hands. Now everyone has a bat(league doesnt even give coaches any.), batting gloves and personal batting helmets.

  31. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Erin
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
    GreenBeret7
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
    The Hell with Peta. It’s run by idiots that have no trouble with harassing, beating up, setting fires and killing people, that they only suspect others of cruelty to animals. They have a lot in common with that other fringe nut faction.

    *****************
    GB, a guy I work with has a PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals bumper sticker lol

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. That just about explains my feelings on them.

  32. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    You are generalizing GB.

    PETA just like any constituency of its size definitely has its extremists. Granted, more so than other groups of its nature.

    However, there are a number of very rational and intelligent people that work for PETA with very good intentions.

  33. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Do PETA people eat chicken PITAS?

  34. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    S.o.S.
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    Where were these shows and instructors like this when we were kids? We all could have been major league stars.

    =======
    GB,
    When my boy played baseball a few years back. The little league website had a comics on the front page. It had a before “kid gets a bat and glove from dad.” NOW “kids get personal instructor”.

    I remember having to use a league bat when i played. Plus having to share batting helmets with lice boy. I was the cool one with batting gloves on bothe hands. Now everyone has a bat(league doesnt even give coaches any.), batting gloves and personal batting helmets.

    ————————————————————

    Yep. It’s so much easier to be a kid now-a-days. I can’t understand why they don’t have as much fun as we did back then. Parents and lack of imagination, I suppose.

  35. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    If I’m not mistaken Sea World and parks like them and aquariums raise a lot of money for animal conservation. They are not all bad.

    DOn’t know what caused this animal to do what it did, but he was brought in to sire and to splash.

  36. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    PETA’s extremist public perception and comments also works very well for them.

    They get an incredible amount of free publicity and platforms to express their views that would otherwise cost them millions of dollars.

  37. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    lets go yankees
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
    You are generalizing GB.

    PETA just like any constituency of its size definitely has its extremists. Granted, more so than other groups of its nature.

    However, there are a number of very rational and intelligent people that work for PETA with very good intentions.

    ————————————————————

    The next time I see some rational, intelligent person from this lunatic fringe, I’ll have a roast and toast for them. More steaks for me. That’s their only useful purpose.

  38. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    PETA’s biggest problem, as I see it, is that they are not kind. to people. I have no problem with their cause – ethical treatment of animals. I do have a problem with some of their methods.

  39. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    lets go yankees
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    PETA’s extremist public perception and comments also works very well for them.

    They get an incredible amount of free publicity and platforms to express their views that would otherwise cost them millions of dollars.

    ————————————————————

    Coming from you, that’s probably a great endorsement.

  40. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    I saw on the news this morning how this bear in NJ busted into this guys porch and killed his daughters rabbit.

    So of course they had to kill the bear.

    It’s tough being a NJ bear!

  41. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    GB7

    Being a former dairy farmer I have a problem with people that don’t know which end of the cow the milk comes from thinking they can tell you how to care for them.

  42. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    PETA’s biggest problem, as I see it, is that they are not kind. to people. I have no problem with their cause – ethical treatment of animals. I do have a problem with some of their methods.

    ————————————————————

    That’s the part of them that I have no use for. It’s no different than the other fringe group members.

  43. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    GB,

    You are being very insensitive right now as I know there are a number of people on this forum that have great respect for animals.

    PETA does a lot of great things every year. You just never hear about them because the 10 o’clock news would rather report that PETA threw paint on someone or wants the groundhog to be a robot than their accomplishments.

    I have a sneaking suspicion you do not personally no anyone that works for PETA nor have you ever spoken with one of them.

    This for example is one of my favorite things PETA has ever done and hits close to home for many New Yorkers:

    PETA Helps Animals and Their Guardians After 9/11
    After the two airplanes slammed into the World Trade Center, residents of nearby apartment buildings quickly fled, not realizing that it would be days before they were allowed to return. Others were at work and returned home to find their entry barred.

    PETA received dozens of calls from New York City residents, desperate to retrieve animals who they feared were suffering from dehydration, hunger, smoke inhalation, or worse. Countless animals were orphaned in the attack, waiting behind closed apartment doors for loved ones who would never come home.

    A special PETA rescue team in New York helped reunite animals with their guardians. We plastered the area with ‘wanted’ posters in order to gather information on animals whose guardians were missing. Rue McClanahan, who lives in New York City, made a special appeal to building superintendents to listen for sounds from animals behind locked apartment doors. “The dearly beloved animal family members of those who died must not become another part of the casualty toll,” she said.

  44. Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    PETA has terrorized countless legitimate medical researchers who have only wanted to improve the human condition. Research in juvenile diabetes comes to mind. Responses from these despicable so-and-sos is that children are less important than their cause.

    Erin – that got a grin.

  45. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    GB7

    Being a former dairy farmer I have a problem with people that don’t know which end of the cow the milk comes from thinking they can tell you how to care for them.

    ————————————————————

    People that gravitate to these groups have some bizarre thought processes. I seriously doubt that they wear sneakers with a tuxedo when they go to formal outtings. Leather shoes all the way. Oil is made from dead animals but, they drive gas duzzlers.

  46. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    I can’t understand why they don’t have as much fun as we did back then.

    ======
    gb,
    Kids these days are too protected and spoiled. We used to hang out in the neighborhood till 10 at night as a 12 year old. From pick up baseball games before and after school to Football to squirt guns(not real guns, moms soap gun thats empty)to riding bikes accross town and finding our way back home before mom found out we were gone to throwing water baloons at cars passing by to hitting on some older girls.

    Now. No kid plays outside. Video games to texting.

    I never thought i would say this, but they dont know what theyr missing.
    The news puts so much fear into parents they locked the door on their kids and threw away the keys. Where are they going to learn street smarts?

  47. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    drive gas duzzlers

    and gas guzzlers, too.

  48. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Yes. There are a number of crazy PETA people. A number of people who take it too far. But, it is not fair to brand the whole group that way.

  49. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    lets go yankees
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
    GB,

    You are being very insensitive right now as I know there are a number of people on this forum that have great respect for animals.

    ————————————————————

    I personally don’t care what you think. stop preaching your brand of morality and, in general, how people should think and what they should accept.

  50. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    lets go yankees

    I have great respect for animals but not to the level of the extreme. In my mind that’s where the credibility is lost.

  51. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    So, kids? How about that great demonstration and explanation on defense by Harold Reynolds? How about the the major league players telling amzinger to stick his “revolutionary stats”?

  52. Phil the Thrill February 24th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    PETA is a terrorist group.

    Animals eat weaker animals. That’s the food chain, nutjobs.

  53. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I think I’ll step away before I get in to deep. :lol:

    I’m not a fighter like randy. :lol:

  54. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Maine,

    I agree completely. Like I said a lot of PETA people take it too far. I was just trying to be “fair” because they are all not like that and a number of them have done very respectable things without taking it to the extreme.

    Whether those people should disassociate themselves with PETA. IDK, it is not my place to decide that for them. But the “good and reasonable” people that work there do have a ton of resources at their fingertips that they otherwise would not have.

  55. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    lgy -

    I have respect for animals. And I have respect for people. getting free publicity by throwing red paint on unsuspecting people and things of that nature is not a good thing. It’s unethical treatment of PEOPLE.

    If anything, it makes people did their feet in further. It does not create sympathy for their cause. In my opinion.

  56. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    DIG their feet in.

  57. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    S.o.S.
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    I can’t understand why they don’t have as much fun as we did back then.

    ======
    gb,
    Kids these days are too protected and spoiled. We used to hang out in the neighborhood till 10 at night as a 12 year old. From pick up baseball games before and after school to Football to squirt guns(not real guns, moms soap gun thats empty)to riding bikes accross town and finding our way back home before mom found out we were gone to throwing water baloons at cars passing by to hitting on some older girls.

    Now. No kid plays outside. Video games to texting.

    I never thought i would say this, but they dont know what theyr missing.
    The news puts so much fear into parents they locked the door on their kids and threw away the keys. Where are they going to learn street smarts?

    ————————————————————

    I blame a lot of it on parents that are more concerned about themselves and their personal time. Spend time with the kids….Knock some common sense into your kids instead ignoring them or blaming somebody else. Burn all books by Benjamin Spock and have the parents and grandparents deprogrammed.

  58. hardwired February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    heaven help me, I’m a fan of Kings of Leon.

    should I be concerned?

  59. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    PETA-

    The concept is good.

    The execution often poor.

    More of an ASPCA type guy myself.

  60. Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    GB, you mean that discussion of base percentage, or whatever it was called? I think it was an interesting idea, always worth exploring something new. It’s something to chew the fat over beers.

    But it doesn’t do much for me, and I’m not surprised the players discounted it. It doesn’t really add anything new to our understanding. Do we really need another number to tell us that Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Gehrig, Musial, etc. were among the greatest hitters? And that suggests Jason Giambi belongs in the discussion? Come’on…

  61. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    GB,

    Funny that while you go around parading your belligerence and calling people stupid and morons, yet I am the one forcing my views or morality on people…

    I never said people have to like or respect PETA. All I was doing was laying out the facts that they are ALL not like that, which you seem to be adverse to in all aspects of life.

  62. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Whether those people should disassociate themselves with PETA. IDK, it is not my place to decide that for them. But the “good and reasonable” people that work there do have a ton of resources at their fingertips that they otherwise would not have.

    ————————————————————

    Since when did you decide it wasn’t your place to correct, educate or push your beliefs on others. That’s all you do.

  63. Benny Blanco February 24th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    “The Jesus Montero show continues.”

    ========================================

    There is no doubt in my mind that he has impressed the yankees staff by his “batting practice performances.” However, lets all keep in mind that its still batting practice and its NOT major league pitching.

    This is by no means a slight against Jesus, I adore his potential, i just dont want to get too giddy just yet.

  64. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    GB7 -

    Not that simple. I can’t fight on two fronts so I won’t. (If you don’t know history, you’re doomed to repeat it! :lol: )

  65. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    GB7 -
    My last post had to do with selfish parents.

  66. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Joe from Long Island
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    GB, you mean that discussion of base percentage, or whatever it was called? I think it was an interesting idea, always worth exploring something new. It’s something to chew the fat over beers.

    But it doesn’t do much for me, and I’m not surprised the players discounted it. It doesn’t really add anything new to our understanding. Do we really need another number to tell us that Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Gehrig, Musial, etc. were among the greatest hitters? And that suggests Jason Giambi belongs in the discussion? Come’on…

    ————————————————————

    Yeah. Loved Barry Larkin that all that stat does is promote the power hitters and buries the singles hitters. He’s right. It’s the same as total bases and slugging percentages. It does nothing for table setters.

  67. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Doreen,

    I agree as well. I think in all my posts I have acknowledged that there are a lot of “bad seeds” in PETA.

    Maybe I am not expressing how I feel about PETA well enough.

    All I purported to do here was say there are a number of very good people that work for the group and those people have done a lot of commendable things. But those people get a bad rap because of their association with the organization, and it is not entirely fair.

  68. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    There is no doubt in my mind that he has impressed the yankees staff by his “batting practice performances.” However, lets all keep in mind that its still batting practice and its NOT major league pitching.

    This is by no means a slight against Jesus, I adore his potential, i just dont want to get too giddy just yet.
    ========

    I concur. For all we know it could have been Igawa throwing BP. And everybody knows that changes everything.

  69. Joe from Long Island February 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Benny – agreed. Hitting in BP is one thing, doing it against game-pitching, let alone major league pitching, is quite another. Having said that, I am excited about this kid and am rooting for him.

  70. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Doreen,

    And the “respect” thing just came because I think there is a fine line between a rational discussion and being insensitive especially when touchy issues are the topic. GB IMO crossed that line and that does not really have anything to do with who or what PETA is.

  71. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    But those people get a bad rap because of their association with the organization, and it is not entirely fair.

    =====

    I guess its like auto mechanics and used car salesman. Not all of them are crooked and bad.

  72. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    lets go,

    Come on man.

    Rice & beans?…PETA?

    You seem like a good kid. If you really want to stir the pot like it seems you do…stick with the sabre/baseball related stuff.

  73. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Hitting the scoreboard or whatever is proof positive that Montero’s hands are in good shape again.

    100% recovered from the broken finger. Amen.

  74. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    lgy -

    I am a fan of Paul McCartney. Years ago, my husband and I went to a Wings concert. There was PETA literature and a video. They got their personal story out (made the connection between the animals they raised as pets adn the food on their table). I think they made more of an impact in this way than the violent methods that PETA has used.

  75. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Doreen

    Isn’t some history worth repeating?

    Not playing sides just being funny. :lol:

  76. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    GB7 -

    Not that simple. I can’t fight on two fronts so I won’t. (If you don’t know history, you’re doomed to repeat it! )

    ————————————————————

    I wasn’t talking about the ones with well adjusted kids. For the most part, those kids are raised by parents who sacrificed their own comforts/break time for their kids….like parents of the years before the 70s did. If I got a paddle used on me at school, I got it two more times at home. It was a guarantee that before the paddle or my azs had cooled, my mom already knew it. she wasn’t that big, so not much fear factor. My dad thought that I was going to school to learn…not play. Then, he’d explain the difference in his own charming way.

  77. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    LGY-

    “But those people get a bad rap because of their association with the organization, and it is not entirely fair.”

    It’s called “blanket punishment”. Everyone suffering for the misdeeds of the few.

    I am sure GB knows it well from his time in the Military.

    Ever see “Full Metal Jacket” ?

  78. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    1. Department stores: Projected to lose 10.2 percent of the 1.56 million jobs they had in 2008.

    2. Semiconductor manufacturing: Projected to lose 33.7 percent of the 432,000 jobs it had in 2008.
    3. Motor vehicle parts manufacturing: Projected to lose 18.6 percent of its 544,000 jobs.

    4. Postal service: Projected to lose 13 percent of the 748,000 jobs it had in 2008.

    5. Printing and related jobs: Projected to lose 16 percent of its 594,000 jobs.

    6. Cut-and-sew apparel manufacturing: Projected to lose 57 percent of its 155,000 jobs.
    ++++++++++
    7. Newspaper publishers: Projected to lose 24.8 percent of its 326,000 jobs.
    ++++++++++

    8. Mining support jobs: Projected to lose 23.2 percent of its 328,000 jobs.

    9. Gas stations: Projected to lose 8.9 percent of its 843,000 jobs.

    10. Wired telecom: Projected to lose 11 percent of its 666,000 jobs.
    ========

    Lets hope we dont have to exchange email addresses.

  79. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    not taking sides

  80. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Maine Yankee -

    Oh, yes!! Some personal history I’d LOVE to repeat!!! :lol:

  81. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    S.o.S-

    “Lets hope we dont have to exchange email addresses.”

    Where did these projects comes from ?

    They are absolutely dismal.

  82. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    I mean projections not projects. sorry.

  83. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Yahoos front page.

  84. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    Maine Yankee -

    Oh, yes!! Some personal history I’d LOVE to repeat!!!

    —————————————-

    :LOL: That was what I was thinking when I said that. :lol:

  85. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    GB7 =

    Understood.

    Cause I had parents who were very similar. Punish first, ask questions later (if at all). :) My mom gets mad at my sister and I because we “reminisce” about not being allowed out on a Saturday until all our chores were done, while she spent 3 hours at the local lady’s house who did hair styling. She thinks we’re criticizing her, but we are not. How else would I have learned how to clean a house from top to bottom??? And bargain with my sister to see who would vacuum and who would dust. :)

  86. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    lets go yankees
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
    Doreen,

    And the “respect” thing just came because I think there is a fine line between a rational discussion and being insensitive especially when touchy issues are the topic. GB IMO crossed that line and that does not really have anything to do with who or what PETA is.

    ————————————————————

    Oh, No!!!! I crossed the line!!!! For shame.

    It’s not like you and those of your ilk haven’t been “crossing the line”to “get your message out”….regardless of the message.

    I didn’t say that it was ok to mistreat animals. It’s as stupid as animal lovers attacking people and destroying property. You need to learn that you aren’t on this earth to teach everyone the error of their ways.

  87. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    S.O.S-

    “Yahoos front page.”

    I’m heading for the bunker ! HS !

  88. blake February 24th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Seriously how many people are against the ethical treatment of animals?

    I think most people are for treating animals ethically but unfortunately that’s not the first thing that pops in my mind when I think of PETA..

    I want to hear more Montero hitting scoreboards, cars, and various other things stories..

  89. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
    GB7 =

    Understood.

    Cause I had parents who were very similar. Punish first, ask questions later (if at all). My mom gets mad at my sister and I because we “reminisce” about not being allowed out on a Saturday until all our chores were done, while she spent 3 hours at the local lady’s house who did hair styling. She thinks we’re criticizing her, but we are not. How else would I have learned how to clean a house from top to bottom??? And bargain with my sister to see who would vacuum and who would dust.

    ————————————————————

    Does for mom ever slip up and try grounding you? No kidding…my mom told me that about 2 years ago, because I was going out for a few drinks, two nights in a row. This happened when my brothers and I were at her house visiting.

  90. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Nah, my mom now swears in front of me. I don’t know what happened to her….

  91. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Does ***your*** mom ever slip up and try grounding

  92. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Blake-

    Things similar to Montero :

    Wrecking balls.

    Monster trucks.

    Bulldozers.

    Steamrollers.

    Freight Trains.

    You get the idea. ;)

  93. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    Nah, my mom now swears in front of me. I don’t know what happened to her….

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. damned kids have ruined more good parents.

  94. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Hey GB7 -

    Is a war on two fronts the same as a two-front war?

  95. S.o.S. February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    One more and i have to go.

    Did your mother throw shoes at you when she got mad, missed and had you walk the shoes back to her? Not a pretty site.

  96. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    “I want to hear more Montero hitting scoreboards, cars, and various other things stories..”

    Word.

    I hope he hits one so hard it lands in Tampa Bay and takes out one of those orcas!

  97. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    GB7 -

    True! :lol:

  98. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    SOS

    the Hair Brush. The one from the Fuller Brush Guy. Ouch!

  99. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    You seem like a good kid. If you really want to stir the pot like it seems you do…stick with the sabre/baseball related stuff.

    —————————-

    I did not stir the pot. I have not said anything offensive to my knowledge. If I have, I welcome someone to call me out on that so I can learn from it.

    This “stirred the pot”

    “The Hell with Peta. It’s run by idiots that have no trouble with harassing, beating up, setting fires and killing people, that they only suspect others of cruelty to animals. They have a lot in common with that other fringe nut faction.”

    And my response? Be fair because you are generalizing. This forum is read by people from all over the world. Comments like these are most likely going to offend someone.

  100. blake February 24th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I got a fever…and the only prescription is more Montero.

  101. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    Hey GB7 -

    Is a war on two fronts the same as a two-front war?

    ————————————————————

    It all depends. are we talking war/war or Lohud war?

    WWII for the USA and Britain it was a war on two fronts. For Germany, it was a two front war. Most people say it’s the same thing, though. I think the difference is the distance of enemies like Europe and the Pacific.

    If it’s a Lohud type two front war, it’s more like being annoyed by mosquitoes in both ears.

  102. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    I want to hear more Montero hitting scoreboards, cars, and various other things stories..

    ——————-

    I agree.

    If anyone other than GB thinks I said something offensive in this thread, was advocating for PETA, or forcing my beliefs please let me know and I will retract the statement.

  103. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I have a lot of love and respect for animals. I happen to have a lot more love and respect for a good steak and baked potato.

    Will I now be getting attacked for killing and eating a potato?

  104. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    GB7 -

    I meant war/war. Thanks. So, with Germany, with Germany in the middle fighting in two directions from within. Britain and US, two different geographical areas.

    I was wondering if it ever meant two separate wars at the same time? Or was is that what you’re saying? For US the war with Japan a different war than the war with Germany?

    —-

    Re; Montero – even if it is BP, is anyone else doing that kind of damage? :)

  105. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    “Is there anyone now on the Yankees’ roster with a decent shot at being the best player in the American League in 2011? One of the five best players in the league? I don’t think so.”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweets.....with-yanks

    Neyer is ridiculous lately.

  106. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    LGY-

    Some of your opinions come across in a “moralizing”, or “holier than thou” sort of way.

    Some people tend react to that perception. Others think it silently.

    You asked. That’s my opinion.

    A different approach might get you further.

  107. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Gb-

    “Will I now be getting attacked for killing and eating a potato?”

    Only if it was Mr. Potato Head ! :)

  108. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    lets go yankees
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    I want to hear more Montero hitting scoreboards, cars, and various other things stories..

    ——————-

    I agree.

    If anyone other than GB thinks I said something offensive in this thread, was advocating for PETA, or forcing my beliefs please let me know and I will retract the statement.

    ——————————————

    I think because of the radical nature of some of the group the letters PETA is similar to waving a red flag in front of a bull.

  109. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    GB7 -

    I meant war/war. Thanks. So, with Germany, with Germany in the middle fighting in two directions from within. Britain and US, two different geographical areas.

    I was wondering if it ever meant two separate wars at the same time? Or was is that what you’re saying? For US the war with Japan a different war than the war with Germany?

    —-

    Re; Montero – even if it is BP, is anyone else doing that kind of damage?

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, Doreen. It’s like now. US is fighting a war on two fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Two seperate wars.

  110. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    GB7

    Yes I mean you in regards to the bull comment. :lol:

  111. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks MTU. GB tends to “push my buttons” that leads me to probably come off like that in some posts.

  112. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    MTU
    February 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    Gb-

    “Will I now be getting attacked for killing and eating a potato?”

    Only if it was Mr. Potato Head !

    ————————————————————

    Perhaps. I guess that if it was Mrs. Potato Head, it would be construed as something entirely different, huh?

  113. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Thank you, GB7. :)

  114. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    GB7

    Yes I mean you in regards to the bull comment.

    ————————————————————

    Moi? I’m the kinder, gentler GreenBeret7. You should have seen me four years ago.

  115. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Umm – my post was in reference to the war question. :?

  116. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Doreen
    February 24th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Thank you, GB7.

    ————————————————————

    sure thing, Doreen. Any time that you want or need for intelligent conversation, just ask me.

    LMAO.

    That should go over well.

  117. jennifer February 24th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    If you want info on PETA watch Penn and Tellers BS show. You can get it through netflix. As someone pointed out ASPCA is a much better organization. In the show the people who work for PETA talk how they are against animal testing. Yet one of them takes drugs that were tested on animals, they pointed out to her how hypocritical she is.

  118. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    GB-

    “Perhaps. I guess that if it was Mrs. Potato Head, it would be construed as something entirely different, huh?”

    Only if her name was Julienne, and you used a knife to kill her.

    Then it could be more than simple assault and battery of a female Potato.

  119. Bronx Jeers February 24th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    let’s go,

    All I’m trying to say is you got to pick your battles.

    If I say something in here, beyond the realm of baseball, and I see i’ve touched a nerve? I drop it.

    It’s my bad for even bringing it up.

  120. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    Jennifer, that’s much like LGY. He doesn’t want to tell his fellow lunatics how to behave when they attack people because it’s not his business. He only wants to tell others how to behave/believe and that’s believing as he does. It suits his purpose.

  121. MaineYankee February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    GB7

    “sure thing, Doreen. Any time that you want or need for intelligent conversation, just ask me.

    LMAO.

    That should go over well.”

    ——————————————

    I think if you made that statement with last nights crowd you’d be trying to duck all the tomatoes thrown at you. :lol;

  122. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    MTU
    February 24th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    GB-

    “Perhaps. I guess that if it was Mrs. Potato Head, it would be construed as something entirely different, huh?”

    Only if her name was Julienne, and you used a knife to kill her.

    Then it could be more than simple assault and battery of a female Potato.

    ————————————————————

    No Moore Julienne fries, huh?

  123. blake February 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    PETP. People for the ethical treament of potatoes.

  124. Triple short of a Cycle February 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Does anyone know how much snow Long Island is supposed to get? I am hoping the courts are closed on Friday so I won’t have jury duty

  125. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    MaineYankee
    February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
    GB7

    “sure thing, Doreen. Any time that you want or need for intelligent conversation, just ask me.

    LMAO.

    That should go over well.”

    ——————————————

    I think if you made that statement with last nights crowd you’d be trying to duck all the tomatoes thrown at you. :lol;

    ————————————————————

    Throwing internet tomatoes is a little over the top, I’d think.

  126. Chad Jennings February 24th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    One last post for the night.

  127. GreenBeret7 February 24th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Save a potato…eat a side of beef.

  128. pat February 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    This article made me wonder, if Alex hadn’t opted out and was playing his free agent year, same as Derek, what the Yankees plans would be and how negotiations for the 2 players would play out.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02.....nkees.html

  129. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Triple short -

    I did a quick look at accuweather.com earlier for Central Islip, and it looked like not a lot of accumulation in LI, but still, rain. Unless they’ve changed the report in the last few hours.

  130. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Jennifer, that’s much like LGY. He doesn’t want to tell his fellow lunatics how to behave when they attack people because it’s not his business. He only wants to tell others how to behave/believe and that’s believing as he does. It suits his purpose.

    ——————————-

    Fellow? If I am a member of PETA someone else must have signed me up.

    I agree with Jennifer ASPCA is much better. ALDF is quite good as well.

  131. MTU February 24th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    GB-

    “No Moore Julienne fries, huh?”

    Right.

    Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head describled themselves not only as married but best “spuds”. They are real down Home fries. They used to watch MASH together almost every nite.

    The loss would be grate.

    It would just have be overcome and supplanted.

  132. Doreen February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    pat -

    Wow. Could you imagine???

  133. Triple short of a Cycle February 24th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Doreen,

    Thanks

    I have been calling everyday this week but I think my number should get called on Friday. The last day :(

  134. lets go yankees February 24th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Maybe my dog ate my PETA membership card and that is why I cannot find it.

  135. Erica - always OPPC February 24th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    new thread :arrow:

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