Notes from Sunday
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Feb 28, 2010 
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Chan Ho Park is locked into the Yankees bullpen. Brian Cashman said this afternoon that Park has a guaranteed deal, which means he’s guaranteed a spot. It’s too early to know, Cashman said, how that affects the rest of the Yankees pitchers.
“There’s clearly a lot of competition,” Cashman said. “Hopefully we can stay healthy, but it’s unrealistic to expect health. A lot of time this stuff works itself out. I just feel, before we start games, we have a better foundation going into the game of spring training this year than we did last year. We’re a little deeper. A little more flexible.”
Joe Girardi said he sees Park as a one- or two-inning reliever, but he’s also seen Park pitch as a late-inning, one-inning setup type reliever.
Here’s the audio from Cashman and then the audio from Girardi.
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• Park, Mariano Rivera and Damaso Marte will each throw their first bullpen sessions tomorrow. Girardi said those three are on roughly the same schedule.
• CC Sabathia will throw on side session on Tuesday, then make his first start on Thursday. The other starters are more or less on their regular five-day schedule. Joba Chamberlain, for example, pitched batting practice today. That means he’ll take Monday off, throw a bullpen Tuesday, throw another light bullpen Wednesday, take Thursday off, then pitch in a game on Friday.
• On Wednesday, the Yankees plan to use Chad Guadin, Sergio Mitre and Alfredo Aceves in that order, with no one between them. But, all three will start an inning. If, for example, the Yankees need someone to get the final out of Gaudin’s final inning, they’ll use a reliever, then use Mitre to start the next inning.
• Cashman on Edwar Ramirez being designated: “Selfishly, we hope we can keep him in the organization, but we’ll know here in the next 10 days how realistic that is.”
• Cashman said “no there aren’t” when asked if there were other free agents on the Yankees radar.
• Minor league catcher Neall French was still in big league camp today. He was brought up yesterday to help catch bullpens. He did not catch any of the live BP sessions.
• Tino Martinez is here as a guest instructor. Apparently he was here earlier, I just didn’t see him until today.
• Girardi is remaining quiet about what the team outing will be on Tuesday. “I told the guys, just be in street clothes by 10 o’clock,” he said.
• Girardi is remaining quiet about what the team outing will be on Tuesday. “I told the guys, just be in street clothes by 10 o’clock,” he said.
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Scavenger Hunt
(At Disney World for Erin)
Just a shoutout here to Gene Monahan. Chad, please, if you ever correspond with him or correspond with anyone who talks to him, let him know how much he is on the minds and in the hearts of all Yankee fans, and let him know that fans inqurie about him.
Talk about an unsung hero.
• Girardi is remaining quiet about what the team outing will be on Tuesday. “I told the guys, just be in street clothes by 10 o’clock,” he said.
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I can’t wait to find out what they’re doing!
Oh great we’ll never be rid of Edwar! No way anyone picks him up.
I’m on pins and needles waiting to see what the outing is……
Chad, AJ throws BP tomorrow, right?
Erica – always OPPC
February 28th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
• Girardi is remaining quiet about what the team outing will be on Tuesday. “I told the guys, just be in street clothes by 10 o’clock,” he said.
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Scavenger Hunt
(At Disney World for Erin)
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LOL Yes, I’m still holding out hope for Disney
Yeah I hadn’t heard an update on Gene. Any-word how his treatments are going?
So funny -
I just left a post in the last thread about not being able to wait to hear what the outing will be on Tuesday!
See what Girardi has started!!!!
Yes. A.J. is throwing tomorrow.
there has been so much talk about how successful last year’s outing was, the pressure is on Girardi to come up w/ something good
Doreen-
Were the roads really bad between NJ and Long Island?? I ams orry you had a terrible drive, but I wound up scratching a possible Atlantic City trip (due to the weather, amongst other reasons). So how bad was it?
Thanks, Chad!
GTO? Guess the outing?
Kate, I’m racking my brains – it could be miniature golf, but really – can you do that all day? I don’t think so. There’s no way it’s Disney – it would be at least a two hour ride to Orlando, I believe. Maybe they’re all going fishing……..
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 28th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Thanks, Chad!
GTO? Guess the outing?
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Thats the spirit Betsy!!!!!!!!!
I love my scavenger hunt idea, but its probably mini golf
I’m thinking miniature golf.
Erica -
I left my house (8A on the NJ Tpke) at 2:05 on Saturday. Traffic was sailing along wonderfully until I got to Bradley Ave. on Staten Island. Turns out the upper level of the Verrazano Bridge was closed due to falling ice. It took me 1 hour to get across the SI Expressway to the Bridge. Then, they were doing pot-hole repair, so the Belt was bumper to bumper from Ocean Pkwy (before Coney Island) until almost Queens. Then there were a couple other stop-and-go situations. It took almost 4 hours to take what normally takes me 1 and a half hours.
So, we didn’t end up going to the mall, I didn’t have dinner until almost 9 pm (I usually eat early – 6-ish). And because I didn’t know what to expect today, I left earlier than I wanted to to come home.
You were smart to scratch an AC trip. Besides any traffic glitches, I think there were a lot of people out because they just needed to be out!
Quail hunting.
Loser of Joba/Phil competition rides with Cheney.
Don’t you mean Quayle hunting, Nick?
Maybe they’re all going to bake pies……….
I guess a midnight visit to the Sox spring training facility, and toilet paper the hell out of it.
Maybe they’re all going to have a Mad Libs tournament…..
Doreen-
YUCK! I would have been ont he road a little earlier going in the opposite direction, but i really didn’t know what to expect. I was a little sad last night that I didn’t go, but I feel better about it now
LOL Tarheelyank…….
I’ll go with mini golf too, but my second (admittedly unrealistic) choice is scavenger hunt at Disney World
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 28th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Maybe they’re all going to bake pies……….
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That would be right up AJ’s alley
“• Girardi is remaining quiet about what the team outing will be on Tuesday. “I told the guys, just be in street clothes by 10 o’clock,” he said.”
perhaps a ride on the Spaceship at that other Dale Mabry establishment?
Only one former Vice President is allowed per joke.
I don’t write the rules, I just try to follow ‘em.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
February 28th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Maybe they’re all going to have a Mad Libs tournament…..
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LOL-
I love the idea. But my gut is that some of these guys don’t know what an “Adverb” is
Doreen –
1. If I could learn how to cook, anyone can. All it takes is one good cookbook (I used James Beard’s version of cooking for dummies) and a desire not to go hungry.
2. How excellent was your adventure to the wilds of Long Island, was it today? Did you get to Walt Whitman mall?
Joe from LI -
Scroll up a bit. I just gave a synopsis to Erica.
I HATE Long Island at night. I’m adventurous and have a good sense of direction, but I can’t tell where I’m going at night in LI. The signs are hidden, unlit and roads don’t have the same names they have on mapquest!
Gto
Bowling. Typical team building activity
its gotta be some kind of competition…gator wrestling?
rayc
February 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Gto
Bowling. Typical team building activity
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I think that one got ruled out cause arms could get hurt
Joe from LI –
I was a pretty good cook when I got married, but I mostly cooked what my mom had cooked. I started branching out with 60-minute meals from the NY Times (back in about 1982 – I just looked it up – The 60-Minute Gourmet by Pierre Franey). There were 2 volumes. Then I started watch Julia and the Great Chefs on TBS. (No food network back then)
Unfortunately my daughter has some coordination issues and knife skills are the problem.
upstate kate
February 28th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
its gotta be some kind of competition…gator wrestling?
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LOL
Doreen – sounds like you really had an excellent adventure. The Belt Pkwy. made another friend. You’re right, unless you know where you’re going, or are on a highway with signs, LI is awful for the uninformed. As a former city boy (Brooklyn), I can relate about the lack of street signs. It must have been very frustrating. At least your home now. Have a good drink and watch the closing ceremony.
And, of course, remember that it’s only another 35 days till Opening Day.
Doreen-
Totally irrelevant to anything, but my grandma used to live in a Co-op in Howard Beach (the Cross Bay Blvd Exit) that looked out on the Belt Parkway. When she was bored she would call us and report the traffic. LOL
Joe from LI -
The good thing was, I was alone. I have patience. If my husband had made the trip out with me, it would have been much worse!!
I had my glass of wine and now I’m enjoying the Sunday Star Ledger. All is good.
Erica -
LOL!
I went on the tour 2 weeks ago. They still had cans of redi whip in the fridge. LOL I guess everyone is afraid to touch it.
jennifer
February 28th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I went on the tour 2 weeks ago. They still had cans of redi whip in the fridge. LOL I guess everyone is afraid to touch it.
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They better throw them out!!!
I don’t want any sickness this season cause someone got sick from a pie in the face with expired whipped cream. LOL
Erica I was joking I pity the guy who hit the walkoff and gets a facefull of 6 month old redi whip
Jennifer
was Swish’s poster still up?
Doreen
that sounds like the trip from hell…hopefully you had a good visit w/ your daughter
jennifer
February 28th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Erica I was joking I pity the guy who hit the walkoff and gets a facefull of 6 month old redi whip
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I knew that
But can you imagine Derek Jeter getting sick cause of expired whipped cream. LOL
pin the tail on the Hooters waitress
everyone’s a winner
Kate- Yep he still had his collage up. He also had a snake statue in his locker.
PeteAbe getting clobbered at Boston.com.
Beantown fans complaining that he’s being condescending as to their notion that they have a birthright to Adrian Gonzalez. And for chump change at that. They’re also ganging up on him.
I guess you pay what you get for.
From an article on ESPN, quoting an unnamed scout.
“Call him Scout X.
Big league lifer. One of the best in the business. Has forgotten more about baseball than you and I will ever know.
Opening Day is April 4. Scout X is way ahead of you.
Can anybody beat the Yankees? I don’t see how. I really don’t see how.
Now with Javier Vazquez in the rotation, it gets even tougher. I know he’s coming from the other league and his numbers are inflated, but he’s going to make a difference. You’re talking about CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte and Vazquez. It’s hard to compete with that.
For me, Phil Hughes would probably be the fifth starter. Joba Chamberlain would be the set-up guy. I don’t think Joba has the intellectual capacity to go through a lineup three times. I think you put him out there and let him blow everybody away for an inning or two.”
Blake, I’ve spoken to scout’s y & z, and they agree especially about the # 5 starter and the Chamberlain pen factor……Not a popular stance here, but better than what it was last May when I mentioned it……Betsy , SJ and a few other souls shared the same evaluation…..
I always always in the Joba is a starter camp. But now since it is Joba or Phil is a starter. I think Phil will flourish more as a starter. He started to really turn a corner when Wanger came back and he was relegated to the pen.
I just read that last bit from Scout X, quoted by blake, above, to my wife. Her comment – “I could have told you that last season when he was shaking off Posada. A Golden Retriever is smarter than that.”
Leave it to my softspoken wife to get to the point.
Joe from LI
that reminds me of my favorite blonde joke (we tell them to our son, who is blonde)
Q: what do you call a smart blonde?
A: a golden retriever
Joba was too stubborn for his own good. I think someone who has been in the big leagues for 10 plus years knows way more than some kid how was up for a season. He couldn’t get that through his thick head.
Bowling needs to be out of the question. Pitchers getting blisters on their thumbs, slipping on the lanes, dropping the ball on their foot, cracking their ankle with the ball…then bowler #2 …..
Imagine them going to Disney World and Sabathia can’t pitch on Wednesday….upset stomach…too much cotton candy and too many rides on the spinning tea cups.
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So, we are to write off Joba as a starter for 2 more reasons:
1) because some scout says so
2) because Joba appears to be stubborn.
All I can say is WOW !
And double WOW !
don’t forget cause Phil will probably be a better starter, and we can only have either Joba or Phil be a starter.
One last post for the night.
MTU,
I’m just shaking my head.
How does this loser know Chamberlain lacks “the intellectual capacity”??
If he did, this clown wouldn’t know it.
Of all the BS.
Joba would be headed to the rotation, along with Hughes, had Javy not been acquired. Granted, if Joba had just blossomed in his FIRST YEAR of full-time starting, Javy might have been rendered irrelevant.
BUT sometimes it takes a while for osmosis to happen.
Maybe the Yankees have some information about his health that is making them balk about him starting.
Even so, every scout and observer has to come out and jump the bandwagon, slamming a kid’s character.
I’d like to meet this slob in an alley and knock him for six.
Some of things I have seen posted here tonite about Joba are nothing short of riduculous
IMO.
Thank goodness Yankee professionals are the ones doing the evaluating.
The only way I would be ready to write off Joba as a starter
is if continues to pitch poorly again this season.
“May the best man win”.
The Yankees are just a tight hammy away from both Joba and Hughes being in the rotation. The question for me is how do they keep both stretched out and ready.
Bohdi-
I like to be there with you.
MTU,
We’ll double-team him.
Let’s also not forget this story is an ESPN special.
We know that outlet is unfailingly objective when it comes to all things Yankees.
Tarheelyank
February 28th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
The Yankees are just a tight hammy away from both Joba and Hughes being in the rotation. The question for me is how do they keep both stretched out and ready.
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Tarheel,
I hope they are even concerned with the question.
Bohdi-
I hear you.
But that is just trash !!!!
For the record I just posted the quote from the article because I thought it was interesting..I don’t exactly agree with it all especially the part questioning Joba’s intelligence. Although I do think Hughes should be in the rotation in 2010.
Its pretty easy to question someone’s intelligence and talk trash about Arod when you hide behind the name Scout X.
Blake-
Understood.
But I don’t give a friggin’ fig what some scout says.
What should matter is a player’s performance on the field.
Nothing more and nothing less.
Bodi
I think they are. An injury is going to happen, it’s just a matter of when. Long term, you have to want both as starters. I say that, even if one continues to struggle in that role this year. Too soon to give up on either of them.
“But I don’t give a friggin’ fig what some scout says.
What should matter is a player’s performance on the field.”
true dat, thats why they are having a competition. I don’t think that Joba starting last year will have any real bearing on the decision though as some people do. If that were the case then I don’t think they would be having a competition in the first place.
Tarheelyank
February 28th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Bodi
I think they are. An injury is going to happen, it’s just a matter of when. Long term, you have to want both as starters. I say that, even if one continues to struggle in that role this year. Too soon to give up on either of them.
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Well, TH, I’d have no choice but to think a lot less of Cashman if he was already resolved to banish Joba and his four pitches to the bullpen.
The problem is, Girardi continues to say in no uncertain terms that the loser goes to relief. if Joba gets marooned in the bullpen, it’s a long, long road back to starting.
I’m hoping they understand the necessity of not just trying to fullproof 2010, but of also handling these young arms responsibly.
If they can’t do both, as delicate a balance as it might be, that would be very disappointing
that’s foolproof. …I think…
In total agreement Bodhi, but which leads back to my question. I know they would never do it, but some sort of hybrid three man rotation between Andy, Joba and Hughes would be beneficial to all three. The negative would be, essentially losing a 25 man spot. These things do have a way of working themselves out, no matter how much we fret about it.
TH,
That’s creative.
I can’t remember now if this is last year or prior, but I recall the idea of a six-man being bandied about, which is basically what you’re suggesting.
You’re right, an injury is probable at some point, which opens a door to opportunity. I just hope it isn’t Gaudin and the Joba/Hughes loser stays put in the bullpen.
Bodhi and MTU: I am in agreement on your statements about Joba being the #5 pitcher. And I will watch your backs with an aluminum bat in the “alleged fight.” Altho, I couldn’t hit the ball passed a pitcher now I’m sure a well placed hit would help!
In the argument on Joba’s shoulder injury, I still would like to repeat what Cone said on TV. It takes approx. a year for the type of injury to heal. That year is up and so are the silly Joba rules. An expert on this board said that he didn’t believe that Joba’s shoulder injury was the Joba’s problem in 2009. But, I also respect Cone’s version because he was a pitcher with the Yanks.
Another poster brought up the fact that Joba’s delivery was changed (in ST?) I had stated the same fact in ST last year. You could see that he was frustrated to the max with his pitching delivery. That delivery change may have come to save his shoulder. But it made it very hard to watch him pitch when he was not right.
And remember this fans, if Phil is in the rotation he will have IP limits. It makes more sense to put Joba in the 5th spot, for his experience, his # of pitches and his excellent pitching & fielding skills. And he does have the MENTALITY to be a rotation pitcher. Rant over.
Because of the hour this will printed, I will re-post in the morning hour.