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Walking off again

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 03, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees seem to have picked up where they left off.

“Except A.J. wasn’t around to do anything about it,” Joe Girardi said.

Colin Curtis had the big walk-off game winner this afternoon, but it turns out the Yankees used their whipped cream pie celebration yesterday. Girardi revealed today that when Burnett won the Indy race yesterday, he was pied by a certain coach.

“A coach that’s a little shorter in stature and left-handed,” Girardi said.

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150 Responses to “Walking off again”

  1. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 3rd, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    That was a frozen rope against a tough wind he hit today, he’s been doing some leg work over the winter.

  2. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    LOL it’s about time somebody pied AJ!!

  3. Uncle Ellsworth (Don't Hassle me, I'm Local) March 3rd, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    So Stick is big on Romine and Melancon (sp)good to

  4. Warning Track Power March 3rd, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    i will be watching the game on my dvr later tonight.
    interesting that the team certainly did pick up where they left off. another WALK OFF. can we get used to this people???

  5. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 3rd, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Stick isn’t really fully informed on our full current minors, he’s been asked advice on certain players but not the whole system.

  6. Betsy March 3rd, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Why pie AJ when no cameras are around? That’s just wrong.

  7. 46fan4evr March 3rd, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    Wish we could have seen AJ get pied – no fair!!!!

  8. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 3rd, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    I shut the interview off because I couldn’t handle Mike’s interruptions. What did stick say about Romine?

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  10. upstate kate March 3rd, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    looking forward to watching the game later

    so AJ finally got pied, hope someone took a picture

  11. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    I’d like to see Gene Michael have a minor league update show with Bob Lorenz or Ken Singleton once or twice a month on YES. Let him update the fans on different players in the system. Lorenz would be fine…anybody but Jones.

  12. Ian March 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Is Girardi hinting that Yogi pied AJ?

  13. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 3rd, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    “I shut the interview off because I couldn’t handle Mike’s interruptions. What did stick say about Romine?”

    ‘I like him, good fielder, good hitter, I really like him’

  14. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    YankeesWFAN Girardi on #2 hitter: “On-base (pct) is extremely important to me because the guys behind him can all hit the ball out of the ballpark.” 29 seconds ago

  15. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Ian
    March 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    Is Girardi hinting that Yogi pied AJ?

    ********************
    I believe it was Kevin Long

  16. Chad Jennings March 3rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    It was Kevin Long who did the pieing.

  17. rodg12 March 3rd, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Would have been freaking awesome if it would have been Yogi though…

  18. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    bullpen could be: Mo, Marte, Robertson, Gaudin, Aceves,Park and who will the elusive 7th man be?

    could be Joba/Phil or Mitre/Logan Boone/Wilkins de la Rosa.

    The 5th starter getting minor innings in April could dictate Phil starting in AAA, Joba as the 5th starter and Mitre starting in AAA.

    That would give the 2nd lefty in the pen a chance, at least for now.

    Things will certainly change during the course of the season.
    ==============================
    REPOST

  19. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    JackCurry1 Gaudin, Mitre and Aceves toss 6 scoreless in Yankees’ win. Good pitching, but it’s bad news for Yanks if one of them wins 5th starter spot. 2 minutes ago

  20. m March 3rd, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    rodg,

    Thanks so much for helping me out with the gameday link.

    Brandon,

    Good to see you again.

  21. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    # mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    mick,

    that’s a good summary.
    ================================
    Bodhi
    Let’s start a paper, you can be editor, I will write for you.
    # mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    pay Homage sez mike….in the movie Cop Out Tracey Morgan uses that phrase, Bruce Willis has to correct him, it’s pronounced O-mage.
    =========================================================
    repost

  22. EPV March 3rd, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Ian March 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Is Girardi hinting that Yogi pied AJ?

    ********************

    Couldn’t be. Although Yogi batted lefty, he threw righty as catchers typically. A pie would definitely be propelled using a throwing arm.

  23. Pat M. March 3rd, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Stick was an unofficial player ( infield ) coach back in the early 70′s….He was great with the young infileders, as he made everyone feel comfortable….Real good guy, and just glided at short….Belanger got all the ink ( and he was real good ) because Baltimore was a great team…..Stick could pick it with the best of them…He couldn’t hit a lick though, but was a stratch golfer though….Always hustled Mantle & Ford on the links….

  24. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Mitre is out of options. Only way he could go to AAA is to pass through waivers unclaimed and accept an assignment to AAA. Highly unlikely.

    Hughes isn’t going to AAA. Girardi has only said this about 100 times.

    He has said repeatedly that the “loser” of the 5th starter competition is going to the bullpen.

    Girardi has also talked about how good Robertson is against lefties. Meaning, he’s not set about having another lefty in the bullpen.

    He has said repeatedly he will take the best 12 pitchers north. If that’s true, neither Hughes nor Chamberlain will be going to AAA.

  25. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    I would like to see Mitre start the season in AAA with Phil getting innings. Joba should start the season as the 5th starter.

    The 7th reliever should be our worst problem.

    April is a slow month for a 5th starter. Hughes will be up and ready when we need him.

  26. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    If we were to carry both Hughes and Joba, who would start if their ST’s are equal?

    Joba to the pen would undo last season, Phil to the pen would make it hard to bring him along as a 5th starter, at least this season.

  27. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    But, its not going to happen.

    Mitre isn’t getting passed through waivers unclaimed. Its also unlikely he will accept a AAA assignment.

    By refusing it, he is a free agent and he can sign with any team.

    If you have that chance or go to Scranton, what do you think he will choose?

    Hughes isn’t going to AAA. Girardi has said that over and over.

    Unless he changes his mind and decides not to take the 12 best pitchers north (not going to happen unless there are injuries), Hughes is heading north.

    Most likely as the 5th starter.

  28. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    If Mitre has a great ST, can we send Gaudin to AAA?

  29. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Pat M.
    March 3rd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    Stick was an unofficial player ( infield ) coach back in the early 70’s….He was great with the young infileders, as he made everyone feel comfortable….Real good guy, and just glided at short….Belanger got all the ink ( and he was real good ) because Baltimore was a great team…..Stick could pick it with the best of them…He couldn’t hit a lick though, but was a stratch golfer though….Always hustled Mantle & Ford on the links….

    ————————————————————

    I didn’t get to see him much as a player in the late 60s and early 70s because I was out of the country most of the time, but, I do remember him hitting in the .270s one year and hoping that he had it figured out, but, not to be. what I remember most was the hidden ball tricks. He was good for 2 or 3 a year. Also remember him being great friends with Munson…perhaps because of the Kent State connection. he;s been a great Yankee in a lot of areas. smart, smart baseball man.

  30. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    Last season with Joba doesn’t matter.

    If it did, he wouldn’t be a competition for the 5th starters slot.

    Think about it. He started all year and yet is in a competition for the fifth starters spot.

    If they were set on him being a starter, he wouldn’t be in a competition to hold his job.

    Most people around the team think its Hughes’ job to lose. A fact Jack Curry brought up during today’s game.

    If that’s the case, its clear the organization may have different feelings about where Joba’s future lies than the fans.

    However it turns out, its undeniable they are two of the best 8-9 pitchers on the team.

    Meaning, they are both headed north unless they get injured.

  31. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    No, Gaudin is also out of options.

    Both Gaudin and Mitre are in the same boat. They have non-guaranteed contracts and are out of options.

    Barring injury, the chances both guys stick on the final roster is very, very slim.

  32. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Jeter and Gardner:

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....?q=Yankees

  33. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Gaudin, Mitre and Aceves in the pen, 3 long men, I don’t know.
    Mo,Marte, Robertson, Park are givens.
    Joba/Hughes and 2 of 3 from above would make 7, unless Boone Logan pans out.
    Looks like Gaudin or Mitre could be traded.

  34. Erin March 3rd, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    BryanHoch Seen in clubhouse – Brett Gardner to Ramiro Pena after HR: “Nino, come here and give me a hug.” about 1 minute ago

    Awwwwww…that’s so cute! :D

  35. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 3rd, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    BTW I’ve seen Henry Mejia pitch, the Strawberry man is crazy on that one, Mo he is not. Maybe a potential Papelpuke.

  36. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Good point about Joba. Yankee brass might be of the opinion that he had his chance as a starter and it didn’t pan out. Hughes now gets his shot and if that doesn’t work Gaudin/Mitre could step in with Phil and Joba in the pen.

  37. bru March 3rd, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    no manager or gm gives up on a pitcher after 1 year of starting if they are smart & hughes & joba are not both going to the pen

    that is a huge waste

  38. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Its the one thing I think everybody is missing with this “competition”.

    If the Yankees were sold on Joba as a starter, why have a competition at all?

    Since he started last year, wouldn’t it make sense to just pencil him in as a starter and go from there?

    By not doing so, its pretty clear they aren’t entirely sold on him as a starter.

    I heard over the winter that the a lot of the Yankee decisionmakers now believe Joba’s best spot is in the bullpen.

    I also know they are thinking that its time to start preparing someone to take over for Mariano. Especially since Mariano pitched hurt most of the post-season and is a free agent at the end of the year.

    I’ve been of the belief all winter that unless Hughes falls flat on his face (unlikely, IMO), he’s going to be the 5th starter, Joba will go to the bullpen, Aceves and Gaudin will be the swingmen, and Mitre will get dealt for a minor league position player.

    Obviously, one or two injuries alters everything.

    However, I believe the plan most inside the Yankees desire is the one I outlined above.

  39. Pat M. March 3rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    GB, Quick story that I remember very well….Mick & Whitey always were golf partners and demanded strokes from Murcer & Stick…..One day Mantle is crushing tee shots but they were always either slicing or hooking….Murcer instucts the caddy to give Mick his driver when Mantle asks for his driver…Caddy is reluctant but Bobby slips the caddy a 20.00 and the caddy agrees…..Sure enough next driving hole Mick call s for his driver…..Caddy brings him Bobby’s driver, Mick looks at the caddy and asks what the ????? is this…..Murcer tells Mick, your a switch hitter right, it’s time to hit from the left side…..Mantle hits a drive from the leftside and keeps it on the fairway…..Apparently they wagered that Mantle wouldn’t go OB and Mick & Whitey win some cash…..

  40. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    You can bet that Cashman is looking at the wire services to see if any pitching injuries have popped up around baseball. If and when there is, he’s in a position to deal pitchers like Mitre, Albaladejo, Igawa and even gaudin if he can get a good return on him. Package one or more of them off with a guy like Corona or Pena and pick up a couple of middle range minor leaguers for them.

  41. Jerkface March 3rd, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    From Joe Pos article:

    Pitchers have thrown Derek Jeter the same for years — two-thirds fastballs, a healthy dose of sliders, and a few change-ups and curveballs to keep him honest. Jeter generally pounds curveballs and change-ups. He will swing and miss some — more than you might expect from a lifetime .317 hitter* — but his ability to pick up the different speeds and spins of pitches is uncanny. “You can beat him side to side,” a scout friend tells me. “But you can’t beat Jeter back and forth.” In other words, Jeter will swing at stuff outside of the strike zone, but if you try to fool him inside the zone with different speeds, he generally will crush you.

    http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlo.....h-pitches/

  42. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Its not a question of “giving up”.

    They may believe he’s not suited to start for a variety of reasons. Perhaps some are long term injury concerns.

    Either way, its pretty clear something has changed this off-season.

    If not, there wouldn’t be a competition for the slot in the rotation, nor would they have made the Vasquez trade.

  43. Rishi March 3rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Video of the walk off:

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi.....id=7177041

  44. Pat M. March 3rd, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Jerkface, real good stuff

  45. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Pat M.
    March 3rd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
    GB, Quick story that I remember very well….Mick & Whitey always were golf partners and demanded strokes from Murcer & Stick…..One day Mantle is crushing tee shots but they were always either slicing or hooking….Murcer instucts the caddy to give Mick his driver when Mantle asks for his driver…Caddy is reluctant but Bobby slips the caddy a 20.00 and the caddy agrees…..Sure enough next driving hole Mick call s for his driver…..Caddy brings him Bobby’s driver, Mick looks at the caddy and asks what the ????? is this…..Murcer tells Mick, your a switch hitter right, it’s time to hit from the left side…..Mantle hits a drive from the leftside and keeps it on the fairway…..Apparently they wagered that Mantle wouldn’t go OB and Mick & Whitey win some cash…..

    ————————————————————

    That’s what you always hear about Mantle and Ford on the links. They always seemed to sucker somebody into betting against them. They said Mantle hit them a ton, but, couldn’t always keep them straight. Mantle, from all I’ve read treated Murcer and Pepitone like kid brothers. Ford was more of a veteran player’s friend. Mantle always took care of the kids, supposedly because of how DiMaggio treated him.

  46. bru March 3rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    there is a competition because of hughes

    no hughes no competition

  47. m March 3rd, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    SJ makes some good points. Otherwise we wouldn’t be holding onto Sergio & Gaudin. Our starting depth runs 10 deep. That’s crazy. If and when there are issues with the rotation, they’ll turn to Sergio or Gaudin (whoever’s left) not the odd man out between Joba & Hughes.

  48. Tripps78 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Joba has just as good a chance of winning the spot as Hughes because he can out pitch Hughes just like Hughes can out pitch Chamberlain.

    To me it looks really simple. The Yankees see both as starters long-term, and for 2010 the best one in camp starts. The other one goes to the pen to dominate the 8th and become one of the best set-up guys in the game. Real simple. This is a great problem to have.

  49. Chad Jennings March 3rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    new post on the No. 2 spot in the order

  50. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    That’s not true. Its more than just Hughes.

    Think about it.

    Going into the off-season, if they were sold on Joba as a starter, why make the Javy Vasquez trade?

    They could have penciled in Joba as the #4 starter, which he was for most of last year, had a competition for the 5th starters spot between Hughes, Gaudin, Mitre and Aceves. Joba is built up enough innings-wise to go in that direction if they were sold on him as a starter.

    They didn’t do that. They traded for Vasquez and put Joba in a competition for the 5th starters spot. They also announced that the “loser” of the competition goes to the bullpen.

    That tells me its more than just Hughes. If it was, they wouldn’t have made the Vasquez trade.

  51. GreenBeret7 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Pat, I’ve often wondered what it might have been like if Mick’s twin brothers had made it. All Mantle outfield. Neither twin were switch hitters, though. Oddly, one hit left and the other right handed. Roy quit right after Ray tore up his knee and retired.

  52. bru March 3rd, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    they did not want question marks with the 4th & 5th spots in the rotation

    cash said it himself that is was tough depending on 2 kids for 2 spots not to mention the playoffs they had only 3 pitchers

    4 dependable starters is better than 3 thats why the vaz trade

  53. MTU March 3rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    My 2 cents worth :

    I enjoyed watching today’s game.

    Particularly the guys from the Minors.

    Nunez, Curtis, and Laird all looked good.

    Pena continues to impress.

    Alba looked bad but it’s so early. Winfree and Hoffman didn’t show much. Neither did Golson.

    Weber had 2 hits but I think he is a REAL long shot.

    If it gets down to having to trade one of Gaudin or Mitre, and I think it will, then IMO Mitre should be the one.

    Gaudin is more versatile and has performed better thus far.

    The 4 OF and 1 bench spot are very competitive.

    A surprise, or dark horse candidate for either may emerge.

    It should be fun.

  54. bru March 3rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    mitre,gaudin,ace will never in a million years be the 5th starter

  55. lets go yankees March 3rd, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Vazquez was as much about Pettitte, AJ, and CC (mostly Andy and AJ) as it was about Joba and Phil.

    The top 3 are coming off heavy workloads that took them into November and a completely injury free year. Chances are one of them gets hurt sometime this year. If and more likely when that happens you are looking at a scary 3-4-5 without Vazquez around.

  56. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    That’s my point. They don’t feel JOba is dependable as a starter. That’s a departure from a year ago at this time.

    If they felt differently, they wouldn’t have made the trade.

    You don’t trade your starting CF and one of your best pitching prospects for a one year rental of Javy Vasquez if you are convinced Joba is a starter.

    You do that because you aren’t convinced he is the long term solution as a starter.

    Let’s face it, he got demoted in the off-season. He went from the #4 starter to competing for the #5 spot in the rotation. That’s not a vote of confidence.

    It also may signal, they prefer him in the bullpen long term.

  57. lets go yankees March 3rd, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    The only reason Joba was the 4th starter last year was because Wang went down. Going into last season he was the 5th starter as well.

  58. SJ44 March 3rd, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    The fact is, if the Yankees were sold on him as a starting pitcher, they wouldn’t have made the Vasquez trade nor have him in a competition for a starting job.

    Its not even an arguable point at this stage.

  59. lets go yankees March 3rd, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Even if Joba pitched well last year it would have made sense to trade for Vazquez.

    It is all about pitching depth especially when your rotation consists of a guy with a injury history, a 37 year old with a history of elbow trouble, and a kind who pitched more innings than he ever has and has been identified as a at risk pitcher for an injury in 2010. Not to mention Hughes has not exactly been the beacon of health in his young career.

    Vazquez is an incredible stabilizer for all these health problems and was more necessary than most fans realize (unless of course you like the sight of Sergio Mitre pitching every 5th day)

  60. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    It’s funny how fans’ opinions of Joba has changed. First he was the saviour in the pen. Then he became the cause celebre as a starter. I thought it was an experiment last season starting him and it now looks as if it was a failure. Yankee brass seemingly has decided he was the real thing in the pen and will groom in to replace Mo.

  61. bru March 3rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    there is no way of knowing if joba or hughes can make it as starters

    no team,gm,manager can know this about any pitcher & cash had a bad experience with handing 2 rotation spots to 2 kids
    so with the yankees resources & pressure they should not have to

    you have to give joba & hughes a chance as starters first

  62. lets go yankees March 3rd, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    And even if Joba pitched well last year does not mean that Hughes may not be the better option.

    If Hughes is a better starting pitcher today in March 2010 it does not really matter what Joba did last year. If Hughes is in the rotation it just means that at this point Hughes is better than Joba.

    It could but does not necessarily mean there are doubts about Joba as a starting pitcher. If he was on a guaranteed long term contract then that is a different story. When you are making 400K though you just trot out who is the better regardless of past performance.

  63. mick March 3rd, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    you have to give joba & hughes a chance as starters first
    ————————————————————-
    didn’t joba have a chance last year?

  64. matt March 3rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    http://newyorkstateofsports.sp.....n/blog.htm

  65. JeterJobaCanoFan2010 March 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Mick,

    Joba was given a chance last season but still was hampered with the Joba Rules. Phil will no doubt have IP limits also.

    This will be the 2nd chance for Phil. Remember the poor showing with Kennedy. Neither of them won a game.

    I agree with those who say that the body of work should be a large part of the selection process. Basing a winner on 3 months of ST is insipid.

    It appears that Phil is the favorite as SJ says. What a waste of talent to send the other to the BP.

    A lot of posters on Yankees.com who are not privy to SJ’s
    inside information still believe that Joba will be #5. I agree.

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