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Spring Training Game 6: Phillies at Yankees

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YANKEES
Brett Gardner CF
Nick Johnson DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Jorge Posada C
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Marcus Thames LF
Kevin Russo 3B
Ramiro Pena SS

Pitching: Javier Vazquez (15-10, 2.87 ERA in 2009)

PHILLIES
Jimmy Rollins SS
Placido Polanco 3B
Chase Utley 2B
Ryan Howard 1B
Raul Ibanez LF
Jayson Werth DH
Ben Francisco CF
John Mayberry Jr. RF
Carlos Ruiz C

Pitching: Kyle Kendrick (3-1, 3.42 in 2009)

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES

WEATHER: Lovely day here at The Boss. A few wispy clouds in an otherwise blue sky, and the temperatures are approaching 70 degrees.

UMPIRES: HP Paul Emmel, 1B Marty Foster, 2B Dan Iassogna, 3B Damien Beal

BREAK ‘EM UP: A-Rod, Derek Jeter, Curtis Granderson and Randy Winn are among the players in Bradenton today for a split-squad game against the Pirates. I’ll have updates from there as they’re passed along in the press box. Alfred Aceves is the starter in that game.

IN THE PEN: Following Javier Vazquez today will be Mark Melancon, Royce Ring and David Robertson, among others. Jeremy Bleich, Zach McAllister, Grant Duff and Ivan Nova are slated to throw in Bradenton.

HIT PARADE?: It’s spring training so take it with a (very big) grain of salt, but the Yankees have scored eight runs in the past three games (they were shutout yesterday) and have been outscored by a combined 32-8.

RANDOM FACT OF THE DAY: Catcher Kyle Higashioka is the youngest player in camp at age 19 … or 21 years younger than the oldest player in camp, Mariano Rivera, who is 40.

Stay tuned all afternoon for much more.

UPDATE, 12:49 p.m.: Spoke to Chan Ho Park a little bit ago and he was sufficiently surprised that any of us were interested in talking to him. “Is this big news?” he said. He says he’ll face live hitters tomorrow.

UPDATE, 1:07 p.m.: Well, OK. First pitch? At 1:07. First ball over the right-field fence off the bat of Jimmy Rollins? Also 1:07 p.m. That ball got out in a hurry.

UPDATE, 1:10 p.m.: Loud start for Vazquez but then he settles in and gets the next three hitters, including a roller from Ryan Howard.

UPDATE, 1:17 p.m.: No flying body parts or anything when Nick Johnson comes up. Just a pop to center. His back seems fine.

UPDATE, 1:24 p.m.: Word out of Bradenton is that A-Rod has lined a two-run single off Paul Maholm to give the Yankees an early lead. Aceves had a 1-2-3 first.

UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: Nice piece of hitting from Cano with a double down the third-base line but he’s stranded. Vazquez is done for the day, having thrown 26 pitches, 16 strikes. Jonathan Albaladejo – he of the 189.00 ERA this spring – is on from the bullpen.

UPDATE, 1:39 p.m.: Other than the first pitch to Rollins, Vazquez looked pretty good. He struck out the side in the second inning and showed very sharp breaking pitches. As first outings go, it was more than fine.

UPDATE, 1:42 p.m.: Well that was weird. Utley ripped a RBI single to right except the second base umpire Dan Iassogna ruled the ball hit Placido Polanco running from first, ending the inning. No one seemed to know what was going on for a moment and then the Yankees just ran off the field. Strange.

UPDATE, 1:48 p.m.: Nice job by Albaladejo as he moves his ERA back into double-digits. He’s out now and Dave Robertson has come on. Official line on Vazquez: 2 innings, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 K.

UPDATE, 2 p.m.: Dave Robertson not having a good day. Francisco and Mayberry with back-to-back ropes and it’s 3-0.

UPDATE, 2:07 p.m.: Robertson out, Amaury Sanit in. Still 3-0.

UPDATE, 2:10 p.m.: Update from Bradenton: It’s 3-0 Yankees after a Juan Miranda RBI single. Aceves pitched four scoreless innings, three strikeouts. He faced the minimum.

UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Two-out, two-run double from Swisher makes it 3-2. Vazquez is available so we’re headed downstairs.

UPDATE, 3:12 p.m.: Nick Johnson reported no issues with his back. “Things feel fine,” he said. “No grabbing. No nothing. I loosened up before. Felt nothing.”

UPDATE, 3:35 p.m.: Update from Bradenton: It’s a final, 6-0, for the Yankees over the Pirates. Aceves, Nova, McAllister and Hirsh combined to throw a one-hitter.

UPDATE, 3:38 p.m.: Good news for Francisco Cervelli: All tests came back clean after a visit with a neurologist and he’s been cleared to resume physical activities beginning tomorrow.

 
 

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358 Responses to “Spring Training Game 6: Phillies at Yankees”

  1. Dennis March 8th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    i thought Garcia was suppose to pitch?

  2. m March 8th, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    Let’s score some runs! People here are starting to bite at each other. ;)

  3. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Phillie brought their presumptive starters.

  4. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    “i thought Garcia was suppose to pitch?”

    Maybe he’s among the “among others” Sam references.

  5. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    I hope Melancon continues to do well – he could be an asset in the pen.

  6. LGY March 8th, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    JohnC
    March 8th, 2010 at 9:43 am
    Before anyone gets their hopes up about Logan, remember Billy Traber was lights out in ST a couple of years ago, and when the season started he was a disaster.
    ———————————-

    Boone Logan is a talented pitcher that was handled terribly by the White Sox in terms of his development and his employment from the pen.

    In 2005 he appeared in 25 games. 21 of those were in Rookie A ball and the other 4 in A+ ball. In 2006, the White Sox apparently desperate for a LH reliever put the kid on the big league roster after spring training. After struggling the White Sox decided to bounce him back and forth between the big leagues and the minor leagues for 4 years.

    In his career as a LH reliever he has faced actually 20 more RHB than LHB (good idea right…)

    RH have hit .337/.409/.528
    LH have hit .266/.333/.398

    Logan just needs some stability (instead of bouncing back and forth, rushing his development, etc) and/or to stay away from RH.

  7. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Spoke to Chan Ho Park a little bit ago and he was sufficiently surprised that any of us were interested in talking to him. “Is this big news?” he said.

    *********************
    LOL

  8. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    “Phillie brought their presumptive starters.”

    Not so much in the OF, but otherwise, yup.

  9. Eli March 8th, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    I love that you’re calling the field “The Boss.” Please keep doing this. It has so much potential for humor. Maybe we’ll even see an ITBHR (inside The Boss HR).

  10. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Sorry Phil. Didn’t see Werth there at DH. ‘Cept for the Flyin’ Hawaiian, that is indeed their team.

  11. Ythan March 8th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    With Ibanez in left and Wert at DH that’s most of their starting outfield too.

  12. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Spoke to Chan Ho Park a little bit ago and he was sufficiently surprised that any of us were interested in talking to him. “Is this big news?” he said.

    ———————————————————–

    Wait till he sees his name mentioned next to Carl Pavano’s in tomorrows papers. :wink:

    “Bruised Buttocks: Part Deux”

  13. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Kyle Kendrick, their SP today. His fiance is Survivor’s Stepanie LeGrossa.

  14. yankeecard March 8th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    anyone see brackman pitch this past week? if so, how did he look?

  15. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    wow cano!

  16. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    eh, not what I wanted to see.

  17. cano he didnt March 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    haha i cant remember the last time cano dove for a ball. love it!

  18. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Nasty pitch to utley

  19. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Javy can’t pitch in Tampa!

    Let the panic begin! LOL

  20. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Why am I always at work when Cano plays??? I haven’t seen him once so far. :x

  21. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Much nicer finish.

  22. Patrick March 8th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Is this game on TV right now? And will it be replaying later tonight?

  23. Brian in 702 March 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    I really hate the Vasquez signing

  24. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    good play by Cano?? Help those that lack video.

  25. Trevor March 8th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    The game is on YES. and it will be re-aired at 11 tonight.

  26. Brian in 702 March 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    the game is also on MLB net

  27. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    You hate the Vasquez signing?

    I don’t know why since they didn’t “sign” him. He was acquired via trade.

    Aside from that, your reasoning is brilliant.

  28. Patrick March 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Thank you Trevor!

    Can’t wait to see the Rollins dinger so I can start panicking!

  29. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    You hate the Vasquez signing?

    I don’t know why since they didn’t “sign” him. He was acquired via trade.

    Aside from that, your reasoning is brilliant.

    lol

  30. tex's friend March 8th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    is there a gameday link for us losers who have to work and are outside of the city?

  31. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Ledger_Yankees And in Bradenton, A-Rod has smoked a 2-run single with the bases loaded. 29 seconds ago

  32. Brian in 702 March 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    i should have said trade.

    thanks for correcting me

  33. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    1-2-3, Javy!

  34. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Actually, I expected for panic that what has been displayed…..Maybe it’s the SJ factor ???? Tony looks real good SJ, Outstanding….

  35. LGY March 8th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    On the topic of Cano. Mike at RAB in the comments section put up a graphic of HRs if Cano was a Red Sox and Pedroia was a Yankee.

    Cano would have had 29 or 30 HRs on the season.

    Pedroia would have had 7 or 8.

  36. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    For those who want, mlb.com has audio of the NYY/PIT game

  37. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    sick curve!

  38. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Jayson Werth hiding his HGH chin!

  39. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Yankees started Single, Walk, Single, Single in Bradenton to go up 2-0. Miranda, Rivera and Hoffman left Winn & Arod stranded.

  40. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    FILTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Javy looks “terrible”. What an awful move by Cashman. LOL

    I often wonder if the panic contingent even bothers to watch games.

    If they did, they would see what an asset Javy will be this year.

  42. pat March 8th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Javy looking good.

  43. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    LGY, Why would that be the case…Right field is not so friendly at Fenway…..Does Cano hit enough sky balls to left to pad the hr numbers ??? Vasquez looks real good as all pitches are in his command…Very smart pitcher….

  44. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Javy has the chance to be number 2 in the rotation.

  45. pat March 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    “Jayson Werth hiding his HGH chin!”

    Does he not own a mirror?

  46. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    It’s fun having a guy who can change speeds and shapes again. Shades of El Duque and Moose.

  47. cano he didnt March 8th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    wow, his breaking stuff looks amazing

  48. Dassit March 8th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Javy looking fine. 3 K’s in the 2nd.

  49. timo March 8th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Yeah that was impressive. Ain’t no number 4 if he pitches like that.

  50. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Phillies gameday

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_nyamlb_1

  51. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    And the Pirates

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_pitmlb_1

  52. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    “Ain’t no number 4 if he pitches like that.”

    They can call him a 4 til the cows come home. In truth, he’s the #2 on this team.

  53. upstate kate March 8th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    SJ
    did you see the pirate edition of 30/30? They had good things to say about your nephew…showed some footage of him as well

  54. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    I haven’t watched all the games. But it seems to be that teams are jumping on our pitchers early in the count.

  55. LGY March 8th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    Pat,

    I tried typing out an answer and then just realized it would be much easier if I just linked the graphic. It is in the comments section.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....-up-24784/

  56. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Looks like Jeter got picked off 1B

  57. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    NYPost_Kernan Something you don’t see every day, #Yankees Derek Jeter was just picked off first by Paul Maholm to end the top of the second inning 7 seconds ago

  58. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Never throw Rollins a first pitch fastball.

  59. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Anyone listening to the Pirates game? Did Aceves only throw 3 pitches in the first inning or is gameday getting lazy?

  60. LGY March 8th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    And, for what it is worth, Cano is a

    346/.363/.568 hitter at Fenway in 43 games

  61. tex's friend March 8th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    ha i just assumed ERAs didnt go higher than 99.99. YIKES!

  62. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Ledger_Yankees OK. I need math help. What would Albaladejo have to do exactly to RAISE his ERA in this outing? about 1 minute ago

    LOL

  63. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    You don’t have scouting reports in ST games.

    You throw all your pitches and get your work in.

  64. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Brace yourselves. Albie is coming in!

  65. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Kate,

    I did see it, thanks. He’s in Port Charlotte today and should play against the Rays.

  66. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    How bout them Yankees knowing the rules?

  67. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Oh, TG, Polanco’s head is so heavy he couldn’t jump out of the way of that ball.

  68. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    The lineup gets all of the ink, but mark my words, the Yankee pitching will be the strength for the club in 2010…..Starters and relievers…..It’s going to be a very fine year

  69. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Pat M -

    Just so long as Alby is not there. ;)

  70. pat March 8th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Aceves- 2 innings, no hits, no BB, 2Ks.

  71. Erica - always OPPC March 8th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Erin
    March 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    Ledger_Yankees And in Bradenton, A-Rod has smoked a 2-run single with the bases loaded. 29 seconds ago

    *******

    A-Rod is so clutch!!! :grin:

    (Couldn’t help it)

  72. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    At least BG tried the bunt. What was wrong with it that he couldn’t beat that particular one out? Too close to the catcher?

  73. pat March 8th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    “Just so long as Alby is not there.”

    And proving that losing a few pounds does not a pitcher make? :wink:

  74. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    D-Rob vs Philly, something tells me Philly doesn’t like him.

  75. Jerkface March 8th, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Gardner didn’t give the bunt enough distance. Too easy for the pitcher and catcher to get.

  76. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    pat -

    A-yup. :)

  77. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Against Pittsburgh, Aceves is pertect in 3 innings with 2 strikeouts

    Miranda has an RBI double. 3-0 NYY

  78. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Aceves is pertect

    Obviously more ***perfect*** than I am

  79. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Was too short. Right in front of the plate. But the pitcher got to it.

  80. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Miranda having a good spring so far. Nice chip for us to have in SWB as a back-up to NJ and possible trade piece.

  81. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    m – you know, I thought the pitcher got it. How’d that happen???? :lol:

  82. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    I’m gonna miss Miranda, he’s too good to keep in the minors, teams will ask about him. Hope they sell high on him.:(

  83. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    SJ, all the poster said was that he or she was not crazy about the Vasquez trade. That didn’t sound like premature panic to me. Rather than mocking the person why not explain why you think the trade was a good idea? There are people who still think back to Javy’s 2nd half of the season with the Yanks. It’s no crime for someone to believe the trade wasn’t a good one.

  84. m March 8th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Doreen,

    He was ready for it.

  85. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Ben Francisco continues to be a Yankee pest.

  86. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    LGY…Interesting arguement, although I’m not buying the Cano / Fenway side of the concept……There’s a poster named Rose there at River Street, is that the same Rose that visits here ???? Very hostile and commabative sort of person …..

  87. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    rodg12
    March 8th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
    Miranda having a good spring so far. Nice chip for us to have in SWB as a back-up to NJ and possible trade piece.

    ————————————————————

    They also have virtually the same player from the right side in Vazquez, other than Vazquez seems to play some third base as well as first.

  88. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    I agree, that person was just stating their opinion. Hopefully Javy will bring them around.

  89. mg March 8th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    love aceves versatility but hard to discount his value as the #5…

  90. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Trisha,

    Somebody “hating” a player acquisition over one pitch is a troll.

    There is no need to explain anything too him.

    Notice how he went away after Javy struck out 4 of the next 5 guys.

    That’s troll-like behavior.

  91. tex's friend March 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    is cano they only one that can hit the ball in spring training?

  92. Eric March 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Does anyone want to point out that Swisher and Granderson have averages of .000? The outfield will ruin the season for this team. They may hit under .200 overall. But hey, who cares? Swisher dances around in right field and brings a new element to the clubhouse.

  93. Jerkface March 8th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    What makes you think Swisher and Granderson are going to combine to hit under .200 when they have never hit under .200 in their careers

  94. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Swisher = World Champion. Go back to sleep Eric.

  95. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Aceves ispitching a fourth inning. 11 straight outs. Nothing hard hit, yet. Not throwing a lot of pitches. He is facing 5 of their front line hitters.

  96. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    The Yanks often start out slow in ST. Then by the end of ST they are at .500 or close to it.

  97. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Eric March 8th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    Does anyone want to point out that Swisher and Granderson have averages of .000? The outfield will ruin the season for this team. They may hit under .200 overall. But hey, who cares? Swisher dances around in right field and brings a new element to the clubhouse.

    Can I point out how stupid you are?

  98. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Eric, Recess is over, back to class

  99. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    GB7,

    You had an impostor posting as you last night.

    Some may have been fooled but it obviously wasn’t you because even though there were spelling mistakes, there were no corrections.

    Which are your calling card. :wink:

  100. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Melancon throws Alby’s best pitch better than Alby does.

    Plus he gets batters to swing and miss.

    When camp breaks, Melancon heads to the Bronx.

  101. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Eric,

    We’ll let you do it. :P

    Besides, short of bringing back Damon and Melky (aint gonna happen), what do you suggest?

  102. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Eric,

    Gotta get back on the meds. You see what happens when you don’t take them.

  103. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Nice outing for Aceves. 4 perfect with 3 strikeouts

  104. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    GB7,

    You had an impostor posting as you last night.

    Some may have been fooled but it obviously wasn’t you because even though there were spelling mistakes, there were no corrections.

    Which are your calling card.

    ————————————————————

    It’s an acquired skill. Not everyone has it.

  105. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Re: Vasquez, when someone states he “hates” the acquisition, that’s not an opinion unless its backed up with a reason.

    Its not backed up with a reason because they don’t really have one.

    Well, they have one, they just don’t want to say it because they know it sounds dumb. They want to blame him for 2004.

    That’s why troll-like behavior gets called out here.

    Similar to quoting ST batting stats of the outfielders.

    You wanna act like a troll, you are going to get crushed like one.

  106. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    nice outpitch

  107. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    GB7,

    I know it’s only ST, and the Pirates are doing a split squad, too. But I love Aceves. I think he needs to stay a starter.

    Bodhi,

    We’ve already got:

    -Mo
    -Joba/Phil
    -Robertson
    -Marte
    -Park

    I had Aceves on there earlier, but I’m deeming him a starter now. That leaves 2 spots for: Gaudin/Mitre/Logan/Melancon. Tough!

  108. pat March 8th, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Does Gameday not track pitches in ST and just results?

  109. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    two z’s in Vazquez, 4 t’s in Pettitte let’s not have another one of those seasons.

  110. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    You have to figure, barring injury, 11 of the 12 spots on the pitching staff are set:

    CC, AJ, Andy, Javy, Phil, Joba, Aceves, Robertson, Park, Marte and Mo.

    The 12th spot is tricky. You have to figure its going to a relief pitcher, which knocks Mitre out of that spot.

    Will they carry a second lefty? If so, Logan has an edge.

    Will they keep Gaudin because of his versatility? If so, he has the edge.

    Can Melancon, or someone else, pitch their way onto the roster?

    Going to be interesting to see how it shakes out.

  111. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    m
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    GB7,

    I know it’s only ST, and the Pirates are doing a split squad, too. But I love Aceves. I think he needs to stay a starter.

    Bodhi,

    We’ve already got:

    -Mo
    -Joba/Phil
    -Robertson
    -Marte
    -Park

    I had Aceves on there earlier, but I’m deeming him a starter now. That leaves 2 spots for: Gaudin/Mitre/Logan/Melancon. Tough!

    ————————————————————

    I really have no preference as long as they do the job that they are put in to do. NYY has a bevy of starters and not many teams can claim that.

    Nova is now pitching.

    Laird is now playing third base for NYY

  112. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    “GB7,

    I know it’s only ST, and the Pirates are doing a split squad, too. But I love Aceves. I think he needs to stay a starter.”

    Front four guys for the Bucs were everyday players, M. Aceves breezed through 1-3….twice.

  113. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    m,

    cream will rise to the top.

  114. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Cano and Posada look great this spring.

  115. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Frank,

    4 perfect innings? Nice. That’s what I like about Aceves. He’s so efficient. Seems to be a waste in the bullpen. haha. Not enough innings to eat up.

  116. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Carl,

    Those once again predicting Jorge’s demise will once again be disappointed :D .

  117. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    pat
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
    Does Gameday not track pitches in ST and just results?

    ————————————————————

    I guess that can’t afford the cost of pitch counters. It would be nice to see, though. I think Aceves was right at 40 pitches.

    Nova just gave up a 2 out single

  118. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    GB, You’ve attained celebrity status here…..

  119. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    SJ I hope it was a troll and not a newbie who didn’t feel welcome. I had never seen the name before.

    Sometimes people go on gut instinct. I don’t think the person used the word “hate” though I don’t remember at this point. One of your wisest counsels here, I believe, is patience. I think unless you are sure you are dealing with a troll it’s good to practice the same, especially with new posters. Just sayin’

    I am impatient with people who whine their way through ST because it’s far too early to make ANY judgements, IMO. But I am fine with someone saying they are uncomfortable with a particular move the Yanks may have made.

    ***********

    mel and doreen, I know it is probably heretical to ever suggest that Phil might go back to AAA if he needs to continue on working things out – not saying that he does – but can you imagine how things could be if ACE shows himself to be a true ACE???

    I’m all for whatever puts the most W’s in the W column. That’s what counts in the end, especially for the NY Yankees!

  120. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    m,

    Aceves is great for long relief/swingman starter. Not that he couldn’t start – but he will serve us best in that role.

  121. champ809 March 8th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Bodhi

    I am of the opinion that Melancon should be in the pen with Mo,Marte,Park,DRob,Ace and maybe Gaudin and that the “loser” of the comp between Joba and Phil should be sent to SWB to build up arm strength and continue their development as STARTERS.
    That I feel is the BEST way to address both the short term and long term goals of the organization.
    Plus Melancon is filthy and I think he’s ready to ultimately work the 8th inning in apprenticeship to MO as the “heir apparant”….

  122. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Wow-is Aceves perfect so far??

  123. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Carl,

    Those once again predicting Jorge’s demise will once again be disappointed :D .

    I think he will have a huge season, now that he is almost 2 years removed from surgery. He said no rehab this past offseason, only baseball stuff and you can see it in his weight.

  124. Eric March 8th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    I’m an idiot.

  125. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    SJ – Totally agree on those 11 being pretty much guaranteed spots barring injury. Only potential difference I could see would be keeping the 5th starter winner behind in Tampa for the first week+ since he won’t be needed to make a start with the big club until the 17th of April if they decide to keep the top 4 on regular rest.

    GB – Vazquez is another great chip for the Yanks to have as well.

  126. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    :) :) :)

    Nick manages to come through no matter what!

  127. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Yup, that Yankee OF will be the death of the team this year.

    Another piece of brilliant baseball analysis from the troll contingent.

  128. John Sterling March 8th, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    That just goes to show ya, you can’t predict baseball! WHOAAA!! Nick is simply SWISHALICIOUS!

  129. cano he didnt March 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    so who thinks Thames will be on the team? He looks pretty lost so far.

  130. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    champ, I agree. I do not want to see Joba or Hughes in that bullpen in a short relief role.

    Sending one of them down to build arm strength would not harm their development.

    Yes, Melancon is all business now. He makes the team.

  131. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Bodhi,

    Personally, I feel Aceves’ best role is our 5th starter. A stance that goes back to last season. But alas, he’s not up there in the pecking order.

    But, he does have a leg up on Melancon at this point. Aceves would have to get injured (heaven forbid), and Melancon would have to be blowing away hitters. Something he didn’t do in his big league appearances, and at times after being demoted.

  132. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Cano walking with a man on second was a very good sign.

  133. ADam March 8th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    “UPDATE, 2:10 p.m.: Update from Bradenton: It’s 3-0 Yankees after a Juan Miranda RBI single. Aceves pitched four scoreless innings, three strikeouts. He faced the minimum.”

    The Mexican Gangster.. holding em hostage this spring!

  134. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Tricia, I Young Master Hughes is going to Scranton, you’re going there as well !!!!

  135. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Champ – I am with you on the Phil/Joba to AAA issue. What is the worst case scenario – the bullpen can’t step it up the first month or two of the season and then the AAA guy is brought up to fill in.
    Your process keeps Phil/Joba as the #1 call up for injury, helps them continue to develop as starting pitchers, and worst case can step in a few weeks to a couple of months in relief after logging a bunch of innings.

  136. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Pat M.
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    GB, You’ve attained celebrity status here…..

    ————————————————————

    I guess that I missed something over the last 20 hours or so. I’ve been asleep for the last 16-17 hours. Headache was killing me.

  137. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    m,

    I don’t want to make a choice between Aceves and Melancon. Someone else will have to fall.

  138. m March 8th, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Gameday is veeerrry slooww. But when I saw Contreras was due up, I thought we have a chance to make something happen here. haha.

  139. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    “Nick manages to come through no matter what!”

    As long as it’s not October.

  140. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Who says Joe G can’t turn a word? LMAO.

  141. Jerry March 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    If Mitre is the best in camp then he should get the 5th spot in the rotation and put joba and phil in the bullpen.

  142. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Eric, while I don’t think you’re an idiot, I think that you are being extremely premature in deciding anything about any of our players based on 4 days of ST.

    Unlike others here, I do not pretend to know the exact configuration the pitching staff will take when the Yankees break camp. I consider it a competition for some of the spots. My enjoyment comes in watching it play out.

    ***************

    SJ you didn’t think Gaudin was going to make the postseason roster either. Don’t you think the wisest move is to let ST play out and then take a stab at the final pitchers? I’d hate to think this is all a joke – which I know it isn’t.

    *************

    Bod, you don’t seem yourself lately. You seem more on edge or something. Will it help if I tell you that the kookies got carrot cake on Sunday?

    :)

  143. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Not a good day for Robertson, but as long as he’s healthy…. On the other hand, it sounds like it was quite a good day for Vasquez. I think the Yankee rotation is being underestimated by those who think the Sox rotation isn’t just better, but much better.

  144. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    I kind of see what the Yankees like in Sanit, it’s mainly he locates the fastball good.

  145. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Let’s wait and see what Vasquez does in the AL again before we call him the cut and dried #2.

  146. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    2 z’s in Vazquez. This is getting out of hand.

  147. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    trish,

    Family health problems are in swing, but we’re managing.

    LOL. They should do a local story on you: “The Eccentric Squirrel Lady in the Yankee Cap.”

    Carrot cake?? My favorite.

    I’m alright, sweetie. :D .

  148. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    This Russo is going to give the UTY runner ups some trouble. He can swing & get on base.

  149. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    surprised Nino beat that bunt out

  150. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Knicks,

    Nice sink, everything down. He looks good.

    Pena nice bunt.

  151. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    Trisha,

    Like I said earlier, you want to believe there is a true “competition” between 5 guys for that spot, fine by me.

    Realistically though, either Phil or Joba will get the spot or 5 years of player development is down the drain.

    Either guy can handle that spot and, I would contend, MUST have that spot if the Yankee intend on developing young pitching.

    Hughes has nothing left to prove in the minor leagues. He’s not going to Scranton.

    JMO but, I think Joba will be in the bullpen and Hughes in the rotation.

  152. Trevor March 8th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Brackman towering over everyone in the dugout. lol

  153. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Gaudin can be a very nice piece in the pen – I really don’t see how he doesn’t make the team unless he just has an awful ST.

    I don’t care what anyone says about our OF as long as they get the job done. Swisher is a good player. He’s got his flaws, yes, but so what? Granderson’s a good player. I admit I am not a Gardner fan, but the point is the Yankees OF is good – it doesn’t have to be great given the ridiculousness of the INF and the quality of the pitching.

  154. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Did Russo get another hit? I really would prefer him off the bench and not Pena…

  155. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Higashioka lines a double off of the left field wall.

  156. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Pat M -

    :lol:

    Now, you have to hear me out. Earlier I pointed out that I have not varied a bit in thinking that Phil Hughes will someday be the face of the Yankee franchise. I absolutely do. But I am not adverse to him having more time to perfect his pitching if need be! I don’t know that need will be, but I would prefer that to having him rushed if he truly isn’t ready.

    I love the thought of Mitre or Gaudin or Ace in a starting role, if they earn the spot. Even if it were for a season, it would be one more that Phil has to get ready.

    Again, if Phil is reading to go, then so be it. But the only thing I want is for the Ws to mount up since I have predicted 104 wins! I don’t care if Mickey Mouse is our 5th starter as long as we win.

    And you still remain my go-to guy here because I find you to be patient, objective – and you playedm the damned game!

    :)

  157. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Nino is younger, Russo is 26 I think, so yeh I would have Nino in AAA becoming a super UTY and test out Russo at the ML level, he could become what Cody Ransom could have been, a poor man’s Scott Brosious. (I know I prbly spelled it wrong)

  158. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Russo may make this team. He’s been big-league ready for awhile. Nice little player.

  159. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Vaquez says atmosphere in Yanks camp is a lot different than it was back in 04. Says this group is loose. about 1 minute ago

  160. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Robbie up with the bases jammed.

  161. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Tricia, It’s all about humor and levity…Especially after last evening…….

  162. kd March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    can russo play short?

    if not, it’s pena

  163. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    attaboy cano!

  164. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Pena’s did a really nice job last year. It’s rare to see two young rookies hit as well off of the bench as Pena and Cervelli did last year. It surprised me that either of them hit that well, let alone both of them

    Nunez drives in a run with a double.

  165. NYYROC March 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    SJ @ 2:36, I agree that Joba or Phil must win the #5 for the reasons you mention. I find it hard to believe there is a “true Competition” going on. But what would be Cashman’s purpose to saying that? Motivation? If most of the posters on here can see through the “competition”, I’m guessing Gaugdin Ace and Mitre can too.

  166. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    2 run single for Robbie

    5-3 Yanks

  167. pat March 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    RISP!

  168. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Brandon, good point about his age. I guess Russo can’t play SS – or he hasn’t until this point – but couldn’t he do it for at least one day if they have to (then they’d just call up Pena to replace Jeter if needed)?

  169. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Brandon, good point about his age. I guess Russo can’t play SS – or he hasn’t until this point – but couldn’t he do it for at least one day if they have to (then they’d just call up Pena to replace Jeter if needed)?

  170. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    That’s not Eduardo unless he used Sammy Sosa’s creme.

  171. vb03 March 8th, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Cano is going to cement himself as the best 2B in the AL this year.

  172. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Swish!

    Russo can play SS a bit. He’s played more second.

  173. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    GB, I think those were very small sample sizes… I’m not sure we want to judge their potential on those. With Cervelli, it almost doesn’t matter as his main job is to be a good defensive catcher.

    Erin, thanks! Javy is going to have a terrific year…and if so, why not re-sign him?

  174. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    SJ, I am really loving the thought of competition. That’s where you eventually see the cream rise to the top.

    I agree with you about Joba ending up in the pen. It is just a gut feeling on my part, but I also think for a myraid of reasons that he may be better suited for the pen. I don’t know that I always thought that, but watching him play I am thinking that more and more. Maybe it doesn’t have to be forever, since we know that there are relief pitchers who end up starting and vice versa, but for now I think it could work.

    I also think he has the kind of ice water in his veins that could make him one hell of a closer one day…

  175. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Weber knocks in Nunez with a single.

    Laird hits a ground rule double.

  176. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Bronx Jeers
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    2 run single for Robbie

    5-3 Yanks

    ************************
    All right!!! :D

  177. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    vb03, I am definitely down with that about Robby. I know the day is coming, so why not this season?

    IMO, the smartest fans are the ones who see a good thing and are willing to wait for it. Not everyone develops at the same rate. But if you see that someone has the goods, it’s usually just a matter of time.

    Then there are the classic knee-jerkers.

    ;)

  178. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    GB, I think those were very small sample sizes… I’m not sure we want to judge their potential on those. With Cervelli, it almost doesn’t matter as his main job is to be a good defensive catcher.

    Erin, thanks! Javy is going to have a terrific year…and if so, why not re-sign him?

    ————————————————————

    Those are bigger sample sizes than Russo has. As long as Pena doesn’t fall apart, he’s going north with the Yanks. He earned it from last year and has done nothing to lose it this spring, so far.

  179. tampayank March 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    has Tex got a hit yet this Spring?

  180. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Roc,

    You have to keep guys engaged and interested in the Spring.

    If the Yankees ever came out and said publicly its either Phil or Joba for that spot, it doesn’t serve any purpose.

    Two years ago, they gave 2 spots in the rotation to the kids and that strategy failed miserably.

    I think by saying its an “open competition”, it keeps everybody working hard and on their toes.

    Realistically, I think the Yankees already know who they want in that spot and are leaning in a certain direction.

    Girardi has said he will make a decision on the spot by March 24. We shall see.

  181. pat March 8th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    And some were sweating Nick Johnson……

    “St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols will miss at least the next two spring games with lower back discomfort, MLB.com reported.”

  182. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Bod, did I miss something about health issues? I hope everything is okay…

  183. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    GB7,

    Good morning/afternoon to you.

    Miranda 2 for 3? Any idea what kind of hits? I see he has an RBI.

    If you’ve already covered, say so and i’ll skim. I’m on 3 sites at once here. Thanks.

  184. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Nova finished with 2 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 1 strikeout.

  185. cano he didnt March 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    who is pitching now at home? if they said I didnt catch it.

  186. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    GB7,

    Good morning/afternoon to you.

    Miranda 2 for 3? Any idea what kind of hits? I see he has an RBI.

    If you’ve already covered, say so and i’ll skim. I’m on 3 sites at once here. Thanks.

    ————————————————————

    One line single and a double…both to right field

  187. cano he didnt March 8th, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    oh nevermind. Garcia.

  188. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Welcome to the ST majors Christian

  189. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    You think game threads here are bad? The game threads on NYYFans are awful. Some poster commented after JV gave up the HR that he picked up right where he left off in 2004…..

  190. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Bodhi:

    Double to right was his 1st hit. That drove in a run. Don’t know on the 2nd. Also whiffed with 2 on and none out in the 1st.

  191. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Christian Garcia is pitching against Phillie.

  192. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    GB, good points…..but I don’t like it when you contradict me.

  193. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Why does Michael Kaye keep calling that white guy Nunez?

  194. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    YankeesWFAN Vazquez laughed about first pitch HR by JRoll: “Spring training my first time out he should give me a chance to get it going a little bit.” 2 minutes ago

  195. Kevin March 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Who is playing second at home? They say Eduardop Nunez but it’s not.

  196. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Brandon;

    how you been dude?

    btw…who is that white guy? for a sec, I thought it was Melancon. lol

  197. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    SJ – sure it serves a purpose. It keeps everyone working that much harder for the remaining spot(s)!

    I will continue to say that even if they are hoping that one of the kids earns the spot, they are not married to that position in the event that neither can do the job. They would be the laughing stock of the league (plus in jeopardy of losing their jobs since Hal doesn’t like to lose) if they were to bring a shaky fifth starter along just because it’s one of the “kids” when they had someone clearly superior they could have slotted. It would make them look like idiots, plus they would be appropriately questioned to death.

    “Did it matter to you that you could have been giving the season away by bringing on someone who failed all spring when you had two others who were superior in every way, especially after you announced that it was a wide-open competition for the 5th starter?”

    “No. We’re committed to youth development. Period.”

    I don’t think that one plays anywhere, let alone in Yankeeville!

  198. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    McAllister has a scoreless 7th inning against pittsburgh. Only runner was on an error by Nunez.

  199. Kevin March 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    But Nunez was wearing 94 a few days ago and that is this guys number.

  200. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    SJ, I don’t disagree, but Phil was injured in 2008 and that’s why he was so awful; I really think he was feeling the effects of the rib injury before he was diagnosed. I don’t think he would have been bad had he remained healthy. Therefore, was the strategy to go with 2 kids so bad?

  201. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Thanks, GB & Frank.

    GARCIA!!!!!!!!!

    Trish, my mom is going through something. If anyone can handle it, she can. She’ll be 87 on Opening Day, and she walked a mile and a half this morning and did her tai chi, too. Thanks :) .

  202. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    #94 was Nunez the other day. It isn’t today.

    Can’t tell who it is though.

    Clearly, Kay has no idea who it is.

  203. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Just wondering if Goose’s comments about K-Rod ( He’s a clown ) is getting any air play in NYC….I remember Bruney saying something last season, and K-Rod approaching him during per-game

  204. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Home or away?
    Pitt game has Reegie Corona at 2b

  205. EEK March 8th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Can I be rude and change the subject? Does anyone else think that Goose Gossage needs to keep his mouth shut? I’m tired of hearing from him. Why can’t he admit that Mariano is by far the greatest closer ever?

  206. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    GB, good points…..but I don’t like it when you contradict me.

    ————————————————————

    Not contradicting you…just stating that Pena did a fine job as a rookie and has done nothing to lose ihis job. It’s difficult for young rookies to sit on the bench for long stretches and still produce when they play.

  207. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Trisha,

    Nobody “gives the season away” giving a rotation a 5th starters spot to either Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain in this rotation. That’s how you break in young starters on big market teams.

    What you DON’T do, is let ST results, especially when some of these guys are facing AAA hitters, make you decide on a journeyman guy for a spot in the rotation who most likely will get pounded when the real bullets are flying.

    You know what would make the Yankees the “laughing stock” of the league? Putting both Phil and Joba in the bullpen OR sending them to Scranton in exchange for journeyman guys.

    Mark my words, barring injury either Phil or Joba will be the 5th starter and the ST stats won’t be the deciding factor in the choice.

  208. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Johnson: “Things feel fine.No grabbing. No nothing. I loosened up before. Felt nothing.” 2 minutes ago

  209. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Well, we found out who is playing SS. Its Damon Sublett.

  210. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Forgot to DVR the game today and the starters (other than Laird) got out and score 5 runs. LOL.

  211. Kevin March 8th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    Guess we have two 94′s.

  212. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    How did Garcia do?

  213. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Pat M – I read the threads from last night and ho-ly it was ugly. I don’t see you getting involved in that kind of thing. I think it as MTU who said this morning that the difference between the night and morning thread is that women are from venus and men are from mars! :)

    I understand kind of what MTU was saying, though of course neither gender fits the mold perfectly at all times. But I must say that one thing I learned from being the only female on the NY Times Yankee forum, for quite a while anyway (mama mia, that was not always a blast) is that many (most ?) men seem to be able to take tremendous personal shots at each other and survive quite well, and even come back and make nice with each other. I don’t think many (most) females operate well that way. JMO (also pretty sure I am onto something because I’ve taught women’s studies and there’s all that socialization stuff, etc.)

    Anyway, it’s all good now.

    :)

  214. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    GB, I was kidding, lol! Pat M, no – sports talk has been mostly football, some baseball and basketball. Goose is a good guy, but I can not deal with his bitterness when it comes to Rivera.

  215. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    SJ44
    March 8th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    #94 was Nunez the other day. It isn’t today.

    Can’t tell who it is though.

    Clearly, Kay has no idea who it is.

    ————————————————————

    I wonder if they brought in Luis Nunez for the day?

  216. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    I had a chance to see Sublett last year at Tampa. Good hitter. I thought they had switched him to the outfield though.

  217. tampayank March 8th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    “EEK March 8th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Can I be rude and change the subject? Does anyone else think that Goose Gossage needs to keep his mouth shut? I’m tired of hearing from him. Why can’t he admit that Mariano is by far the greatest closer ever?”

    I’ve mentioned this a few times the last week. I can’t stand him, every Spring he opens his mouth like anyone cares what his opinion is. Unfortunately he reminds me of Shilling, always opening his mouth and begging for attention. And yes, you can sense a bit of jealousy w/ Mo b/c he always brings up “back in my day we had the 3 inning save”. I wish he wouldn’t hang around every Spring Training

  218. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Erin, that’s good news. Thanks!

  219. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    Trisha -

    I wouldn’t personally be upset if Hughes was sent to AAA to start the season.

    But I do agree that one of Joba/Phil should have the 5th spot, barring unforeseen circumstances.

    Of the two, and with no real information (too early in spring to tell), and just going on what we’ve seen so far (one outing!) and last season, I would send Joba to AAA and keep Hughes in the 5 spot.

    As far as Ace, I like his versatility and I think so does Girardi, so I don’t honestly see him as the #5.

    Unless things fall apart completely or there is an unforeseen unhappy circumstance, Mitre and Gaudin will likely not have the #5 spot. That is not to say that if one of them ended up with it I would be upset, because that would mean one of two things: either there was aforesaid unforeseen unhappy circumstance, or, even better, Mitre or Gaudin absolutely dominated.

    In any event, I’m really glad I’m not the decision maker.

    Would love to see Melancon make the team out of ST, but I guess it depends on how a lot of things shake out, and until there are fewer split squad games and these guys are facing more regulars, I think it’s a bit premature to make a decent judgment.

    Have I hedged my bets enough???? :lol:

  220. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Ed, I’ve been great, except for watching Kate’s movies. I think the white guy he keeps calling Nunez is Damon Sublett

  221. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Chris’s fastball has movvvvvement.

  222. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Nasty change up.

  223. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Lets hope Garcia actually stays healthy this season and get call up to the majors.

  224. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Garcia not himself but he settled down and stopped over throwing. Let this kid stay healthy, heaven.

  225. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Nice job by Garcia?

    Someone above mentioned DRob having a tough outing? What happened? I thought he got a DP after giving up a hit. But I’m kind of in and out of the room.

  226. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Ed – campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin)
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Lets hope Garcia actually stays healthy this season and get call up to the majors.
    ===

    Amen.

  227. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Garcia’s settlig in.

  228. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Gameday just said David Adams is the one who went in for Cano.

  229. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    SJ – I cannot mark your words since you’ve led me astray several times in the past!

    ;)

    But you might want to mark mine – if Phil wins the 5th spot it will be because he earned it. Same with Joba.

    Isn’t letting life take its course a delightful thing? I think so!

  230. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Chris is another guy who could get his velo back with good health luck this year. His injuries have made him a really under the radar guy.

  231. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Brandon Awesome (B/c I’m still more AWESOME than you)
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Nasty change up.
    ===

    Dude, I’m not missing a start by this guy at Trenton. Now, all he has to do is cooperate.

    ELTORRITO!

  232. CountryClub March 8th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Russo is 25. Here’s an article from Chad’s old paper. Hat tip to River Ave Blues for the link.

    http://thetimes-tribune.com/sp.....s-1.663203

  233. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Doreen D-Rob just missed some location, and got fatigued as the inning went on. No biggy.

  234. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    YankeesWFAN “I think all around I’m throwing more off-speed just because I’ve been a little bit stubborn in the past using my fastball.” Javier Vazquez about 1 minute ago

  235. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Nothing in the papers that I saw concerning Goose’s thoughts on the NY closer contingent.

    He really let’s it fly since his induction doesn’t he?

  236. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    about time, Kay stops calling Adams, Nunenz.

  237. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    It was David Adams. He was the replacment in the middle infield.

    Saw him play at Virginia when my nephew was at BC. He was a solid college player.

  238. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Bod, he had Howard guessing out there.

  239. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Adams just got a LD to RF off a ML reliever.

  240. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Nice swing by Adams. My first time seeing him. Another 2B in system.

  241. Bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Brandon Awesome (B/c I’m still more AWESOME than you)
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    Bod, he had Howard guessing out there.
    ===

    Garcia is not the kind of pitcher a guy like Howard wants to see.

  242. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Brandon – from reports David Adams can really hit the ball. Potential solid player for the Yanks.
    Looks like Macallister pitched well against Pitt? Gameday is seriously behind against Philadelphia.

  243. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Colin’s power is coming, he missed the sweet spot and drove that to CF

  244. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Goose said he had 53 7 out or more saves in his career. Hoffman had 2 and Mo, I think has 4.

    He wasn’t ripping Mo. He was pointing out a fact given to him by the curator of the Hall of Fame.

    What he said was this era’s relief pitchers workloads are completely different than it was back in his day and have to be evaluated with that in mind.

    He’s right. Hard to rip the guy for being right.

    He was also right that K-Rod is a clown! lol

  245. CountryClub March 8th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Another nice day for Nova and McAllister. Results mean zero in the grand scheme of things. But, if they continue to pitch well before they get sent to minor league camp, at least their confidence should be high.

  246. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Why would the Yankees call up Garcia when he can’t stay healthy to even have a full year at AAA? They should not rush him. It would be a successful year just to stay healthy all year.

  247. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Thanks Brandon, re: D-Rob.

  248. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Eduardo Nunez singles, to go with his double RBI and run scored in 2 at bats.

    Golson doubles Nunez to 3rd.

    Weber singles to drive in Nunez

    Laird grounds into DP.

    6-0 Yanks

  249. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Adams is an intriguing prospect. Can hit and takes his walks.

  250. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    SJ, IMO, Goose is very bitter. Mo is the greatest closer ever – you know that. He is a different closer than the modern breed and Goose should acknowledge that. He’s like Jim Rice, to be honest. His other points were good – I loved that he called out K-Rod (though he should do the same for Pablebon).

  251. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Does anyone remember IPK and Phil being shipped to AAA when they couldn’t pitch out of the 4 and 5 spot? Don’t forget it. Then we had to scour the minors for replacements. Now we have pitchers who may show they can step into the role.

    I am from the Show Me state. I wait and I watch. And in the meantime, I listen intently to what comes out of the organization. I haven’t gone wrong a lot doing it that way.
    However, if I listened to a lot of the guarantees that have come from this forum, I would have ended up wrong more than right!

    Do I believe that Joba and Phil are the favorites going into the race? Absolutely. Do I believe they are going to be the starting horses if they pull up lame? Uh, no.

    Time will tell though right. So let’s enjoy the show!

  252. kd March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    sj,

    i gotta ask. steroid users in the hall, yes or no?

    my vote, as a fan with no professional ties to the game, is yes. the whole era is tainted. we don’t know who did what, so i assume most did.

  253. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Is Romine playing at all today?

  254. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Adams and Sublett will both be at AA this year. Both can hit. Its a question of defense for both of them.

  255. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm still more AWESOME than you) March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    GB Golson actually got a hit, thank god!

  256. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    My nephew was just put in the game in the 6th inning in Port Charlotte. Should be batting third in the 7th.

    Jeff Bennett is on the mound for Tampa.

    That was the guy who broke his hand on a door in the Atlanta dugout after Cervelli hit a HR off him in the game after Cashman ripped the team last year.

  257. Kevin March 8th, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    I really don’t understand scouts saying Montero won’t be able to catch. I know it is a small sample size but still he looks fine and comfortable back there.

  258. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I think Gossage has a point. However, I think he conveniently doesn’t see that Mariano has had many multi-inning saves during his career, which does put him in a different category than many of his contemporaries, and closer to the relief pitchers of Gossage’s era.

    That said, Gossage is certainly using his HOF status to spread his message. :lol:

  259. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    David Adams is a good all around player. Solid hitter with a very good glove at second..plays a little third base. good extra base power to the gaps, good speed.

  260. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Surprised Golson didn’t score on Weber’s single. Was it close to being caught, GB?

  261. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    LOL I remember that- that’s just unbelievably stupid.

  262. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Since results don’t mean much in ST, especially right now, I then go with what I would like to see happen. I would like to beat the Phils just because, and I would like the teams like the Pirates to beat us, just because. Do you see the trend?

  263. Tophitter March 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    Is Romine playing at all today?

    Romine is playing with the Away team against the Pirates

  264. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Romine is playing in Bradenton today Betsy.

    Goose isn’t bitter at all. Quite the contrary, he’s a happy go lucky guy.

    He just wants each era judged for what was happening in that era. Can’t say I blame him.

    My feeling about steroid users? To try and play God with their careers, which some writers are trying to do, is ridiculous.

    The whole era was tainted. However, some guys, like Bonds and Clemens for example, were HOF’ers before they ever took anything. Same with Arod for that matter.

    What you do is, vote them in, and put on their plaque if they admitted PED usage or flunked a drug test.

    Its the only way to accurately have an accounting of the game that makes sense.

    Keeping out sure fire Hall of Famers, when some guys are in there that were addicted to greenies, the PED drug of choice from the 60′s thru the 80′s, makes little sense to me.

  265. jayhi March 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    With 2 of you there can’t you cover both games.

  266. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Betsy, I say this…If the bases are juiced in a close game, I want the Goose…..

  267. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    McAllister pitched well today. 2 innings, o hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 0 strikeouts.

    Hirsh pitched the 9th, allowing nothing but a runner reaching on Nunez’ 2nd error of the game. 1 fielding, 1 throwing.

  268. CountryClub March 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Romine is playing in the Pirate game.

  269. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Nephew got called out on strikes in his only AB in Port Charlotte.

    That’s good. I couldn’t live with him if he hit another dinger! lol

  270. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    rodg12
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Surprised Golson didn’t score on Weber’s single. Was it close to being caught, GB?

    ————————————————————

    Weber’s was a short single to right field. They held him at third.

  271. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    “Hirsh pitched the 9th, allowing nothing but a runner reaching on Nunez’ 2nd error of the game. 1 fielding, 1 throwing.”
    ———————-
    Yikes. Nunez still struggling in the field. Hopefully he can change that.

  272. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    SJ, and CC – thanks! I suspect he’ll be one of the first to go to minor league camp based on his stats – unless the Yanks want him here with Pena.

    Hmm, As I said, I think Goose is a good guy. I don’t understand why he doesn’t acknowledge Mo, but then again, unless he opens his mouth, I never think about it. He’s certainly entitled to his opinion. Pat M, I remember Goose, but not in his prime. I would normally bow to your knowledge, but I can’t imagine anyone better than Mo

  273. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Derek and Alex:

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....?q=Yankees

  274. NYYROC March 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    NYY have been blessed with some great closers: Lyle, Goose, Rags, Mo, not to mention the guys in the 50s. My favorite was Lyle. I remember a game in the 70s, the Indians loaded the bases with 0 out and Lyle came in and struck out the side on 10 pitches.Amazing slider.

  275. kd March 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    thanks for your thoughts on users sj.

    was amphetamine usage ever as popular as steroids?

    i don’t want this to blow into a huge steroid discussion, but reyes’ issue is raising a lot of eyebrows these days

  276. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    SJ, Early Exhibition games, there’s alot pitchers HOF srike zones going on late in the game…..Basically, if the pitch is near the zone that right hand is going up……

  277. m March 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Where’s Chad been?

  278. Rob March 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    So basically, this board is run by SJ44 and anyone who disagrees with him is a “troll” and will be attacked. And this board is a fan club for his relative where we have to hear updates about each AB when it has nothing to do with the Yanks?

  279. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Maybe Sublett would hit if they’d call him by his correct name….Damon

  280. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Rob -

    As far as SJ44′s nephew most of us who have been here as long as SJ44 have ASKED him to keep us updated. We are genuinely interested. If you don’t like to read about it, skip it.

  281. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Rob March 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    So basically, this board is run by SJ44 and anyone who disagrees with him is a “troll” and will be attacked. And this board is a fan club for his relative where we have to hear updates about each AB when it has nothing to do with the Yanks?
    ————————————–
    LMAO. Somebody get this guy a clue. In fact, get him a box of clues.

  282. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    rodg12
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    “Hirsh pitched the 9th, allowing nothing but a runner reaching on Nunez’ 2nd error of the game. 1 fielding, 1 throwing.”
    ———————-
    Yikes. Nunez still struggling in the field. Hopefully he can change that.

    ————————————————————

    He’s got a rifle for an arm and soft hands. It’s always been his footwork that needs to be fixed.

  283. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    “I think Gossage has a point. However, I think he conveniently doesn’t see that Mariano has had many multi-inning saves during his career, which does put him in a different category than many of his contemporaries, and closer to the relief pitchers of Gossage’s era.”

    No it doesn’t. Since becoming the closer for the Yankees, Mo has averaged 1.08 innings per appearance. That’s a one inning guy, period. Nothing wrong with that, as that’s the way the game’s been over the last 30 years or so. And among those one inning guys, Mo has been by far the best. Different animal than what Gossage was when he was doing from 1975-1985, he was averaging 5-6 outs per game.

    That’s the distinction he’s making, and he is right about it. Doesn’t diminish what Rivera has done, but it’s a distinction worth making.

  284. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Different animal than what Gossage was when he was PITCHING from 1975-1985, he was averaging 5-6 outs per game.

  285. m March 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Well, Gossage shouldn’t be calling current players clowns. Even if it’s the truth, it’s not very classy.

  286. NYYROC March 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Nunez can hit and has speed. They have to find a position for him or tighten up his D in the infield. He’d be a pretty good player.

  287. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    That’s about it Rob.

    That comment is as foolish as your hysterics over ST results.

    Guess what? I’m not changing what post here so, if you don’t like it, either skip my posts, or offer your informative baseball insights elsewhere.

  288. vb03 March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Rob March 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    So basically, this board is run by SJ44 and anyone who disagrees with him is a “troll” and will be attacked. And this board is a fan club for his relative where we have to hear updates about each AB when it has nothing to do with the Yanks?

    ——————–

    No one is forcing you to stick around. Don’t let the door hit you on the you know what on the way out.

  289. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Frank, I’m with you on that explanation……If you needed a punchout , Goose was theguy you’d want….

  290. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    kd
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    thanks for your thoughts on users sj.

    was amphetamine usage ever as popular as steroids?

    i don’t want this to blow into a huge steroid discussion, but reyes’ issue is raising a lot of eyebrows these days

    ————————————————————

    Speed in the clubhouses in the olden days? They had two coffee pots, marked “Leaded” and “Unleaded”. Everyone used them.

  291. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Juiced baases in a close game – I vote Goose too!

  292. rodg12 March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    He’s got a rifle for an arm and soft hands. It’s always been his footwork that needs to be fixed.
    ———————————–
    That’s encouraging. Footwork is something that I believe can be improved through repetition.

  293. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Cervelli’s tests came back clean, back tomorrow 53 seconds ago

    :D

  294. pat March 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Cervelli cleared by the neurologist.

  295. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Erin, Jeter and Alex hate each other, huh?

  296. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Thank you God, re: Cervelli.

  297. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Whew, that is fantastic news about Cervelli. I would still give him some time, but thank goodness he’ll be ok.

  298. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Erin – what does “Ledger_Yankees” mean? Are you reading this information off a specific site?

  299. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    m, I suspect that Goose was talking for most of the league as K-Rod is viewed as a punk……I took great delight this season when he served up 2 Grand Salami’s this season….His own teammates in Anahiem were fed up with his crap, as they were the target of retaliation

  300. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    “Frank, I’m with you on that explanation……If you needed a punchout , Goose was theguy you’d want….”

    Mo’s still the guy I’d take if I needed three outs to save my life, and he has at times gotten the big 5-6 out save, and even got 9 outs in one notable appearance, but in general, if I was allowed one relief pitcher to get me 5 or more outs to save my life, I’m probably asking for Gossage or Mike Marshall in his salad days or someone like that.

  301. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    One other thing that Nunez has is good line drive power and fast wrists. when he gets his weight above 160, he could have more.

  302. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Betsy -Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    Erin, Jeter and Alex hate each other, huh?

    *******************
    Yes, isn’t it so obvious from that picture? lol

  303. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Frank -

    I didn’t realize that was Mariano’s career average. I coulda swore he had more multiple inning appearances – or 4 or 5 out appearances, anyway. At least they’re always making a big deal about how they shouldn’t let him do it anymore.

    Anyway, I agree with you about Gossage, which is what I said to being with – “Gossage has a point.”

    It would be nice, though, if he absolutely had to speak about this, to at least give Mariano the crown for the new breed.

  304. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!!
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    Erin – what does “Ledger_Yankees” mean? Are you reading this information off a specific site?

    ************
    trish, it’s the Star Ledger’s Twitter

  305. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    is the game over?

  306. CountryClub March 8th, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Trisha,

    they’re copying and pasting tweets from the Star Ledger.

  307. pat March 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    “A sports doctor under investigation in Canada and the United States says he treated Alex Rodriguez after the Yankees slugger had hip surgery last year but he only prescribed anti-inflammatories.”

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z0hcWQCZVl

  308. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Doreen:

    To be clear, that is Mo’s average innings per appearance from 1997, when he became the closer, forward. He did pitch more innings per appearance in his pre-closing days.

  309. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    rodg12
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    He’s got a rifle for an arm and soft hands. It’s always been his footwork that needs to be fixed.
    ———————————–
    That’s encouraging. Footwork is something that I believe can be improved through repetition.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, Tyson worked a lot with him, but, he needs somebody like Kellaher or bowa to work with him. he just gets in a rush and makes mistakes. Better range than Pena.

  310. kd March 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    gb,

    i had no idea. thanks for the info. that’s kinda scary if you think about it, wonder if there were any long term effects

  311. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Erin – thanks!

    JohnC – top of the 9th, Yanks leading 7-5, 2 out, 2 men on base for the Phils (1st and 2nd)

  312. Warning Track Power March 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    best news of today is regarding Cervelli. very happy he won’t miss weeks because of the HBP.
    at the same time, i think he might want to learn how to “get out of the way” of an inside pitch.
    we need him as our #2 catcher. even thought Mike R has big league expierience, i think Cervelli gives the team a better chance to win each day he is out there.

  313. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Thanks, Frank.

  314. Trevor March 8th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    That’s Montero behind the plate now?

  315. pat March 8th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    “Dr. Philippon has talked to the club and explained everything,” Rodriguez said. “This is fine.”

  316. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Who gave up the 2 runs to make it a 7-5 game? Melancon or Ring?

  317. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Game!

    Warning Track, I’m with you re: Cervelli. In fact, and not to start a firestorm or tears here, but if Jorge and AJ don’t get it together by the end of ST – just saying IF – I’d love to see Cervelli catch AJ’s games.

  318. Frank March 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    One other point Doreen:

    You are right about Mo getting some 4-5 out appearances, but he’ll usually kick in some where it’s less than an inning too. As an example, in 2009, he appeared in 66 games, pitching 66 1/3 innings, getting more than three outs 9 times, but getting less than three outs 8 times.

  319. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I watched Montero catch that entire inning. I still don’t understand the “popular thinking” of some that he can’t catch at the ML level.

    He has soft hands for a big guy. He catches the ball quietly and gives the umpire a chance to make a call.

    He sets up pretty low for a big guy.

    He’s just not a stiff back there.

    85-90 AAA games and he will be even better back there.

  320. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Thanks Country Club. Just saw your post.

    :)

  321. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I’m not surprised – this is what I thought – but it’s still good to hear that everything is A-OK with Alex.

  322. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Warning Track Power
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    best news of today is regarding Cervelli.

    *******************
    absolutely :)

  323. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Whelan looked a lot better this time out.

    Montero looked good behind the plate.

  324. Carl March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Galea told The Associated Press on Monday that he treated the Yankees star for his hip, which was “inflamed.” But Galea says he has never given HGH to any athlete and Rodriguez was given anti-inflammatories.

    Looks like my boy Alex has a story to tell the Feds

  325. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Good job Kevin Whelan to finish things up.
    We may very well see him this year as well. If he can get his command together coming back from arm injury he is a great power arm.
    The Yankees have so many of these guys in the minors that to me it is a waste to put Joba or Phil in the pen. They are two legit starting pitching candidates and those guys are much thinner in the organization and harder to obtain outside of it.

  326. tex's friend March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    guess they read Chad’s article and woke up the offense.

  327. JohnC March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    and just like that they are 3-4 now for the Spring. The bridge jumpers can take a step back now.

  328. RalphieD (OPPC) March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    “Who gave up the 2 runs to make it a 7-5 game? Melancon or Ring?”

    neither pitched in the game…garcia and segovia gave up the runs..one of them was unearned

  329. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 8th, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Frank -

    Those are interesting numbers. Thanks.

    SJ44 -

    Trying not to get too excited about Montero yet. :)

  330. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    kd
    March 8th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    gb,

    i had no idea. thanks for the info. that’s kinda scary if you think about it, wonder if there were any long term effects

    ————————————————————

    They’ve been using speed in sports since soldiers brought the stuff back from Europe after WWI and even more after WWII. Aaron said he quit usung because it made his heart beat too fast and Mays stopped in the mid-60s because they made him nervous and it scared him. Mantle used them after rough nights out with Martin, Bauer and Ford.

  331. five iron from fenway March 8th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Montero also has a very strong arm. Slow release time but a very strong arm.
    So we have all world bat, nice receiving skills, strong arm, weak release. Sign me up for the next few years at catcher and then DH/1b.

  332. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 8th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    JohnC – they could, but they won’t. Unfortunately. Today is good only for today. If you’re a member of the “what have you done for me lately” club of posters, tomorrow is a new day to blitch about!

    :)

  333. tampayank March 8th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    a big whew for AROD…I was nervous it would blowup and be another PR disaster for the Yanks

  334. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Ralph, thanks! I got confused because Melancon and Ring were listed to pitch today

  335. Bronx Jeers March 8th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “Juiced baases in a close game – I vote Goose too!”

    On “leaded” or “unleaded” coffee? :wink:

  336. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    GB, whites & black beauties were available in the Minor clubhouse as well….Trainers had them….

  337. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Well, hopefully, the double header sweep will pull the bridge jumpers back from the precipice. At least for a day.

  338. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    The Feds have already talked to Phillipon. This is not a big deal.

    If Alex was either the focal point of this investigation, or a key witness in it, he would have already been interviewed.

    The fact that he hasn’t yet is an indication he isn’t a priority on the Feds interview list.

  339. Keep it March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Aceves recorded a 12 out save last year. It was in a 2 run game too, so not an “I pitched the final three innings and my team won” type of save.

    This is not a comparison post, just a somewhat relevant reference to Ace.

  340. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Bronx Jeers. Goose’s fastball was always high octaine…..I remember sitting in Dodger Stadium when he clipped Ron Cey and cracked his helmet….I, to this day remember that sound

  341. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    Pat M.
    March 8th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    GB, whites & black beauties were available in the Minor clubhouse as well….Trainers had them….

    ————————————————————

    Stuff like that has been in every sport for 90 years. Quite effective for headaches due to hangover.

  342. SJ44 March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    GB,

    I don’t want them to pull back. I want them to jump.

    The more that jump, the less they will around here whining and crying like Red Sox fans at every turn.

    Take one for the team and jump! That’s the battle cry! lol

  343. Warning Track Power March 8th, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    looking forward to watching “some” of the game later today on the DVR.
    because it’s ST, no way i can sit through every pitch for 9 innings.
    today i will watch Vazquez and see how Robertson was hit hard.
    thank you MLB network for all the tv ST games this season

  344. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Lyle doesn’t get a lot of credit that the others get for being a multi-inning closer. He was as automatic as the others of his era. Just mot a big strikeout guy. Certainly made the sluggers look foolish at times. He earned every dime he ever made the day he taught Guidry the slider.

  345. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Vaz is a different kind of pitcher than he used to be, it’s somewhat subtle cause he still has the good fastball, but his secondary stuff is a lot more sophisticated and he’s more of a Tiant/El Duque/late era Moose type now. He’s going to be very fun to watch this year.

  346. Phil the Thrill March 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Sparky was a great pitcher.

  347. The Blogger Formerly Known As Dan March 8th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    Autograph from Mo, win by the Yanks, great day.

  348. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    SJ44
    March 8th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    GB,

    I don’t want them to pull back. I want them to jump.

    The more that jump, the less they will around here whining and crying like Red Sox fans at every turn.

    Take one for the team and jump! That’s the battle cry! lol

    ————————————————————

    NY has enough pollution in their rivers. Maybe they could give everyone of them a free trip to the Himaleas for some cliff diving. Let them clean up the mess or pray for a large snow storm to cover them.

    Good news on Cervelli. All I care about right now is that the pitchers get their innings, the hitters get their timing and everybody goes north healthy. The NYYs can start winning in about 10 days.

  349. pat March 8th, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    Aceves- “He threw just 36 pitches in the game, then tossed another 16 in the bullpen before cooling down.”

    4 innings, 3Ks, no BB and 36 pitches. Quite economical.

  350. Joe from Long Island March 8th, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    Went to the game

    Good pitching by Vazquez good hitting by Swish and Russo

    Best news is about Cisco. Far and away the best news.

  351. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    YankeesWFAN Cervelli could catch in a game by Friday. Cleared by doctors to resume activity Tue. Good news for Cervelli and Yanks. about 1 minute ago

    YankeesWFAN “Its early for the hitters too but it was an outstanding changeup.” Girardi on Vazquez K of Utley in the 1st inn. 2 minutes ago

  352. disco stu March 8th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    I dont have a problem with Goose wanting to defend the era he pitched in and making sure that people are mindful that closers were used a lot differently when he pitched.

    That is fine … I grew up in that era and I remember the days when Goose would come in the game in relief of Catfish and record 8-9 outs for the save.

    The thing that bothers me about Goose’s comments is that he never gives Mo credit for the extended work he has done in the post-season. Mo is used much more like Goose was once October rolls around. Look at the number of games Mo has had to record saves when coming into the game in the 8th inning. You have to be fair … and that is the one aspect of Goose’s argument that he is not completely fair about.

  353. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Girardi and Posada:

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0.....?q=Yankees

  354. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 8th, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Disco Stu, I agree. Just because Goose is an ex-Yank doesn’t mean I have to agree with even half of what he says.

  355. Erin March 8th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    New Post: Wrapping it up from The Boss

  356. GreenBeret7 March 8th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Rivera is the best modern era closer in history (modern era for being the early to mid-90s forward). Can’t judge him by what Fingers and Gossage did. That’s like saying that Mays and Aaron were better hitters than Cobb or Honus wagner. They hit more homers, but Cobb was a triple Crown winner in his era and Wwagner lead the NL in homers. Or comparing Pettitte to Jack Morris. Nearly identical numbers accomplished in different ways.

    What’s the difference? They all have two things in common. They were the best of their time at what they did. All are HOFers or will be in Rivera’s case.

  357. Pat M. March 8th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Next page >>>>>>

  358. Rich in NJ March 8th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    That true.


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