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Wrapping it up from The Boss

Posted by: Sam Borden - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Mar 09, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

CC Sabathia wasn’t good today. That much was obvious and, equally obviously, he’ll work on his mechanical issues during his side sessions so he can be better the next time out. Such is life in spring training.

While Sabathia was discussing poor mechanics on one side of the room, however, Nick Johnson was on the other wall talking about his improved mechanics at the plate. Johnson has been working with hitting coach Kevin Long on turning his back foot through (as opposed to sliding), and he said that adjustment has allowed him to start pulling the ball more. Witness what he did this afternoon, when he crushed two home runs, both of which went to the right-center part of the park.

Someone mentioned Johnson, who has a career-high of 23 home runs, possibly surpassing that this year if he’s able to pull the ball at Yankee Stadium. “I don’t like to put any numbers on guys,” Joe Girardi said. “(But) we know he’s a really, really good hitter.”

Curtis Granderson was also pleased with his fifth-inning triple, particularly since it allowed him to get out and run a little. “Nice to stretch the legs,” he said. Granderson has been in touch with several of his former teammates in Detroit – he recently had dinner with Dontrellle Willis – and he’s looking forward to facing them tomorrow in Lakeland. “That’s one of the days on the calendar that’s marked,” he said.

Here’s Girardi’s postgame audio. You might notice a long pause early on – that was when he got up to turn off the TV so that it would be a little quieter.

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215 Responses to “Wrapping it up from The Boss”

  1. crawdaddy March 9th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    I remembered that WS game in 1966 against the Orioles in which Willie Davis committed three errors. I think Sandy pitched that game and the errors might even had been in the same inning. The Orioles smoked the Dodgers that year.

  2. Warning Track Power March 9th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    way to go Nick Johnson. those HR’S had to have reminded some fans of Matsui :)
    seriously, i am not concerned about C.C. one bit. as long as our starters get their work in, have their pitch count increase with each start, all is well.

  3. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....to-ac.html

    I don’t get the need to rush him back, I really don’t.

    Sam, thanks! I’m sure CC will be fine. I love hearing about Nick and Granderson….

    Was Willie Davis on the Dodgers? I think he guest starred on the classic Mr. Ed episode where Mr. Ed hit a HR off of Koufax – I need to double check that. In any case, RIP – 69 is way too young to go.

  4. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Seems like Kevin Long is a first rate hitting coach.

    Seems like he helps everyone he works with.

  5. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    austinmac
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    Vada Pinson and Frank Robinson. Those were two tremendous players for the Reds.

    I remember while I was a little leaguer that Joey Jay was the first former little leaguer to make it to the majors. I saw my path.

    ————————————————————

    I think every kid in Little League saw the same path. Most of us wandered off and got lost in the woods.

    I remember Jay shooting his mouth off after beating the Yanks in Game @2 of the ‘61 WS and yammering at length that the Series was over and NYY wouldn’t finish better than 4th in the NL.

    He was right, though. The Series was over. NYY took the next three games and closed it out in Game #5 with a 13-5 shellacking against, you guessed it, Joey Jay. He couldn’t be found after the game.

  6. S.A.--Serenity Now March 9th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    A top New York Yankees executive was charged with driving under the influence in Tampa.

    Hillsborough County Jail reports show that Mark Newman, the Yankees’ senior vice president of baseball operations, was arrested Monday night. He reportedly refused to take a blood-alcohol test. He was released several hours later on $500 bail.

    Team spokesman Jason Zillo says the Yankees can’t comment at this time.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c......dui.0190/

  7. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    randy l.
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    thanks pat.

    that’s a high compliment for a semi pro player and bullpen catcher.

    dempsey was always one of my favorites.

    wasn’t he traded in that massive trade with the yankees and orioles?

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, NYY took a bath in that deal. Dempsey, Scotty McGregor, Rudy May, Tippy Martinez and others for Ken Holtzman, Doyle alexander and the immortal Elrod Hendricks

  8. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo…..to-ac.html

    I don’t get the need to rush him back, I really don’t.

    Sam, thanks! I’m sure CC will be fine. I love hearing about Nick and Granderson….

    Was Willie Davis on the Dodgers? I think he guest starred on the classic Mr. Ed episode where Mr. Ed hit a HR off of Koufax – I need to double check that. In any case, RIP – 69 is way too young to go.

    ————————————————————

    Yes he was Betsy. He was the Dodgers center fielder throughout the 70s, went to the Expos and bounced around after that. He and Maury wills were very close to Doris Day. That was, in some Dodger circles, a little too close for their tastes, so, they were dealt off. Davis was also on Leave It To Beaver, Donna Reed, The Munsters and My Three Sons. so was every other Dodger.

  9. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    “Hillsborough County Jail reports show that Mark Newman, the Yankees’ senior vice president of baseball operations, was arrested Monday night. He reportedly refused to take a blood-alcohol test.”

    if it’s true, that’s gonna be a problem.

  10. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    GB, Gabe Paul was forced by George in a panic move to add depth to the 76 club…Paul Blair and Grant Jackson were part of that deal as well……Balitmore used those players from that deal to biuld a very good club for several years & a WS Championship…I still can’t believe that the Pirates overcame a 3-1 deficiet to beat them in 79….

  11. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    fielder throughout the ***’60s***

  12. crawdaddy March 9th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    “if it’s true, that’s gonna be a problem.”

    No wonder, we haven’t sign any big international prospects this offseason.;)

  13. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Wow, unbelievable…good thing he didn’t kill anyone. He ought to be thrown in jail…

  14. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    randy l.
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    “Hillsborough County Jail reports show that Mark Newman, the Yankees’ senior vice president of baseball operations, was arrested Monday night. He reportedly refused to take a blood-alcohol test.”

    if it’s true, that’s gonna be a problem.

    ————————————————————

    It’ll hardly get noticed, except in Boston and on ESPN. They’re still drooling over the “Rodriguez is still cheating” imaginary scandal.

  15. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Randy-

    “if it’s true, that’s gonna be a problem.”

    He gets the Joba treatment.

    What would you think would happen if true ?

    Demoted ?

    Fired ?

  16. G. Love March 9th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    So how many times does the media/press have to write the same story about how the Yankees aren’t going to extend Jeter, Mo or Girardi before the end of the season?

    I think by this point, everyone who is a Yankee fan knows this one by heart.

    I’d much rather see stories like Chad has been doing here on the blog about some of the minor leaguers who we know nothing about than read another quote from a Yankee exec explaining that they will discuss extensions after the season.

    Can’t believe it’s one of the front page headlines on ESPN yet again.

  17. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    How can Newman do his job now? Can the Yankees fire him?

  18. pat March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    I’m starting to think like GB. :shock:

    My first thought was as long as Alex wasn’t in the car with him, this will blow over quickly.

  19. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    GB, I didn’t know that……cool.

  20. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Pat M.
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
    GB, Gabe Paul was forced by George in a panic move to add depth to the 76 club…Paul Blair and Grant Jackson were part of that deal as well……Balitmore used those players from that deal to biuld a very good club for several years & a WS Championship…I still can’t believe that the Pirates overcame a 3-1 deficiet to beat them in 79….

    ————————————————————

    That Series was about like the Yanks beating the Braves in 1996. Neither team had any business beating those pitching staffs. Not as bad as Pittsburgh in ’60 or the Mets in ’69, though.

  21. Jerkface March 9th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    I wouldn’t crucify newman until you have all the facts. He could have been right at the limit.

    And if you’ve never drove home near the limit you are either a liar or don’t drink. Or are the most responsible human ever.

  22. Jerkface March 9th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    How can Newman do his job now? Can the Yankees fire him?

    The same way he did before?

  23. blake March 9th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Al leiters breakout player for 2010….Brett Gardner

  24. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    pat
    March 9th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
    I’m starting to think like GB.

    My first thought was as long as Alex wasn’t in the car with him, this will blow over quickly.

    ————————————————————

    Finally, the board is wising up.

    It’s taken a while, though it’s never too late, pat.

  25. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 9th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Doreen, then I happily turn the Pirates over to you and I will stay with the Nats. Both deserving teams.

    :)

  26. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Blake-

    “Al leiters breakout player for 2010….Brett Gardner”

    Did you see Montero catch today ? :)

  27. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 9th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Trisha -

    Don’t abandon the Pirates; they can use all the help they can get! :)

  28. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Newman could have been on prescription meds and had an adverse reaction. Let’s give the guy the presumption of innocence.

  29. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    By the way, The Washington Senators / Nationals over under line is 1 game better than Pittsburgh @ 72……Good call Jerkface !!!!!

  30. Jerkface March 9th, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Good call?! What did I do now?

  31. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 9th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    jerkface, innocent as charged. But it’s because I don’t drink.

    We all know the dangers of drinking and driving. Look at Jim Leyritz. On the other hand, I’ve stopped counting the numbers of people who have said to me “I’ve just been lucky. The number of times I had too much to drink and made it home safetly…yada yada yada”

    In my state refusing to take a breathalyzer actually is a mixed bag because there are certain penalties that go with the refusal but you don’t necessarily end up with as harsh a sentence you would have it you took the test and failed it. I don’t know what Florida’s laws are regarding refusal.

  32. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 9th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Doreen I will stay with the Pirates and own the Nats. I have enough love for both.

    :)

  33. Jerkface March 9th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Florida DUI law

    http://criminal-law.freeadvice.....da-dui.htm

  34. jerseybillfromva March 9th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Yeah, lets not jump on the dui bandwagon before we know some facts. If everyone who gotcharged dui lost their job, this country’d be in a hell of a mess…… oh. nevermind. I need a drink.

  35. Joba in the pen March 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    “oh. nevermind. I need a drink.”

    Drink all you want. Just don’t drive.

  36. Phil the Thrill March 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    There seem to be some baseball related DUI’s every spring training.

  37. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    GB-

    Didn’t you think Montero looked great behind the dish today ?

    Perhaps, you’re spoiled and have seen all that before ?

    What a revelation for me.

  38. blake March 9th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    MTU,
    Nah I didn’t, I was slammed with patients all day and it wasn’t on TV here to DVR. I hear he looked pretty good though. Whatd you think?

  39. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Blake-

    Awesome.

    Strong arm

    Athletic

    Good blocking

    Nice reception and framing.

    Very little to criticize IMO.

    Having seen him I am absolutely convinced he sticks at catcher.

    And that makes me VERY happy. :)

  40. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 9th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    jerkface I was wondering what the penalties were for refusing to take a breathalyzer. It appears that there are automatic penalties (one is mandatory license suspension). What remains after that is whether your attorney can manage to fight the charges.

  41. blake March 9th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    MTU,
    Makes me happy as well. From the limited amount I have seen him it looks like the ability is there. He’s big but he seems much more agile back there than he’s given credit for.

  42. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 9th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Let me say this, and it no way implies that I approve of drunk driving (if Newman was indeed drunk). It’s just in response to the question of whether he can do his job. It appears to me that Tony LaRussa, himself an attorney, has drunk driving offenses and he still has his job and appears to be doing it well.

    But as someone else just said, the smartest thing is not to drink and drive.

  43. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    “What Happens When You Get Stopped for Drunck Driving?”

    the above was on that link that jerkface provided.

    it is not true that gb7 helped with the website.

    ……………………………………………………………
    so what’s the problem with newman getting a DUI if it’s true?

    we’ll first of all , he’s an important guy and should be setting standards for the people below him in the organization.

    if it’s true, he’s going to have to do some serious work in rehabilitating his image.

    he can survive it, but it’s not something that he’ll get a free pass on.

  44. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    Blake-

    One thing I am not in a position to comment on would be the actual mechanics of what he does back there.

    For example his footwork, or the quickness of his release.

    But his throw to second was strong and accurate.

    If the pitcher had done his job a throw like he made nails the runner IMO.

    The only other slight negative was that he seemed to give away his position behind the plate a bit too soon.

    I have no idea on what it takes for him to learn to call a good game either.

    Perhaps he already does ?

    Maybe, I am easily impressed but I think he will be good at catching as well as hitting. :)

  45. blake March 9th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    MTU,

    I just need him to be good enough to stay back there, everything else is gravy. I’m excited from what I’ve seen from him and Romine both.

  46. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Randy-

    Did you see Montero Catch
    today ?

    If you did, would you share your impressions please ?

    Thanks in advance.

  47. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Jerkface, I was referring to your rational 6:50 comment….It actually stemmed the tide if you notice…Rocks & glass houses I suppose

  48. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    mtu-

    he looks fine behind the plate to me. his lower body is slow, but that’s not a deal breaker.

    i mentioned earlier grain nettles had a slow lower body and a fast upper body.

    he seemed to handle the hot corner quite well defensively.

    catching isn’t third base, but montero showed me a lot with his desire when he aggressively stretched his leg out to block the plate .

    i said before that wanting to catch is a big part of being a catcher.

    montero seems into it.

    i really don’t see the problem.

  49. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Jerkface, first of all, I don’t drink. I’ve had maybe a few drinks in my life. Second of all, I would never drive drunk. I’m not going to get into it because I remember what happened on this board after Joba drove drunk. I’m not a liar, by the way.

  50. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Pat M, are you directing that comment to me (about rocks and glass houses)? I hope not.

  51. Terry from NH March 9th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    I saw Montero play last season against NH Fishercats here in NH and he hit a line drive rocket over my head down the 3rd base line to give Trenton the lead, but eventually lost.
    He is going to be a beast in this lineup and it may be sooner than later.. I can’t wait!

  52. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    If you are, though….I happened to go out for dinner.

  53. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Betsy

    That makes you responsible (as Jerface said), unlike many of us, including myself, at least in my youth.

  54. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Randy-

    Based on what you have seen.

    What probability would you assign to him making it as a Catcher ?

    On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best and 1 the worst.

    How would you rate him now, and after some more development on his overall catching ability ?

    Play scout for a second.

    thanks.

  55. Joe from Long Island March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    randy – Hi there.

    I don’t know enough about baseball or catching, but if you and some of the others, like Pat M., think Montero can handle the position, that’s good enough for me. You guys have proven your knowledge base over time. And that is pretty good news about Jesus.

    Good to see Cervelli’s interview with Jack Curry on the YES replay. He seems intact, and that’s always a good sign. That is the best news of the day, in my opinion.

  56. jerseybillfromva March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    wasn’t condoning drunk driving. IF Newman was drunk driving he deserves all the punishment he gets. I believe that having a drink and going home is alot different than drunk driving. The law doesn’t allow for that anymore, though, and now that it’s become a cash cow there isn’t any gray area. Lets all just lighten up on the ‘should lock him up’ and ‘should loose his job’ stuff, when we have few facts.

  57. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    If Montero can handle AAA Ball, and not so much with the bat because he’ll be fine as he adjust to a much more devesified array of offspeed pitches, but the upper level of the skills of being a Big League catcher….Calling a game, and the mental aspects of catching such as controlling the tempo of his pitcher and the flow of the game….If all this comes together, he’s in the Bronx by late summer…..

  58. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Pat M.-

    I was thinking right after the ASB. :)

  59. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Rich, I don’t want to come off like I’m judging anyone…I just find it hard (if not impossible) to tolerate drunk driving. I’m going to try and steer cleer of this topic because I don’t want what happened two years ago to happen again. I was a bookworm/nerd in high school and college (still am), so I actually never came close to any situation where I had an opportunity to drink and drive. I’m no better than anyone else, though – I just don’t like drinking. That makes it easy for me to avoid drinking and driving.

  60. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Joe, it’s great news, but I think the Yankees are rushing him…..

  61. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Joe, I don’t see the interview on YES.com; was Frankie interviewed during the game?

  62. champ809 March 9th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Montero is totally commited to being a catcher as he comes from a line of cathcers in Venezuela…I believe his uncle was a catcher…could have been his Dad but for some reason I remember it being an Uncle

    anyway he totally wants to be the starting catcher for the NY Yankees!!!!!

  63. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Weds. we get another installment of “Generation Duo”.

    Looking forward to it.:)

  64. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
    GB-

    Didn’t you think Montero looked great behind the dish today ?

    Perhaps, you’re spoiled and have seen all that before ?

    What a revelation for me.

    ————————————————————

    I thought he looked just fine. Two plays in partivular. The first was hom catching the high and away throw from Laird and blocking off mosy of the plate and trying to kick the runner’s leg away from the plate. He was unsiccessful, but, it showed that he was thinking about his job. The other was snagging the hard slider down that kicked up high on him. He’s got fast and soft hands. Footwork will improve. Rankdy mentioned a slow lower body, but, that may be due to his height. He does spread out wide behind the plate. Just my opinion, though.

  65. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    “What probability would you assign to him making it as a Catcher ?
    On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the best and 1 the worst.”

    MTU-

    i’d say 5 and he could be a 6 with some hard work especially if he can throw as well as has been said.

    i haven’t seen him throw yet.

    i think it’s a 100% chance he’ll catch in the majors unless an injury derails his progress.

    joe from long island-

    don’t underestimate yourself.

    you have a pretty solid baseball viewpoint from what i’ve seen.

  66. Joe from Long Island March 9th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Re: Mark Newman and his DUI violation –

    Number One is getting the facts, and not judging on rumor and presumption. Obviously, this is a big issue in our society, as it should be.

    Newman is not the only person in a leadership position who’s been nailed on this. Tony LaRussa comes to mind. But, just like Joba got his, Mark Newman, if guilty, needs to get his. Not saying he should be canned. Everybody makes mistakes. But, I think, the Yankees should make it clear to everyone in the organization that they take this sort of thing very seriously.

    And, back to baseball matters, it sure looks like Nick Johnson has taken well to Kevin Long’s coaching.

  67. sierchio March 9th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    I posted this on Pinstripes Plus message board, but wanted to get some opinions on this blog also…

    I was just pondering this… and I fully expect everyone to tell me why it’s a bad idea… but I’ll give it a shot, so here it is…

    I’m sure most of you read this article with the Gossage interview, where he was pretty much dissing the GOAT because he mostly pitches 1 inning saves… and it got me to thinking.

    I’ve always been on the Joba in the rotation bandwagon. I still pretty much am on that side of the argument, because I feel that a starting pitcher is more important than a closer… especially since he won’t be a closer at this time, he’d be a setup man.

    Here is my idea. If Phil wins the number 5 spot out of Spring Training, how about we put Joba in the bullpen and get him to pitch more than 1 inning as a setup man. Instead of pitching the 8th inning, lets have him pitch the 7th and 8th inning. If Joba is the replacement for MO, then he could pitch 2 innings at the end of the game, instead of just one. Obviously though, the point is moot if Joba wins the 5th spot or if Joba can’t preform well in the bullpen… but if he is dominate out of the pen, why not have him pitch 2 innings when the game is close, instead of just one? I also feel that he is young enough, that if you start training him now, when he is the closer (assuming that happens in this situation) then he would be fully ready to do this a few times a week. Say he’s pitching 3 outings a week at 2 innings an outing, that’s 6 innings a week, which isn’t totally taxing and he’d probably be getting around the same amount of innings as if he were starting, so I wouldn’t feel too bad about having him as a relief pitcher instead of starter. Also, say he’s getting 180 innings in doing this, if they decide to give him another chance as a starter, then he wouldn’t be under any inning limitations again…

    Okay, now rip me for my idea and tell me why it’s stupid

  68. pat March 9th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Betsy-

    Just think of yourself as the blog designated driver. :wink:

  69. blake March 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Randy is spot on saying that a big part of being a good catcher is wanting to catch.

  70. champ809 March 9th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Pat M

    one of the things that helps guys like Montero and Jorge Vazquez as far as hitting goes is that in Mexico and Venezuela they see a ton of off speed pitches in those leagues. The majority of the pitchers in those countries throw pretty average fastballs but the throw a bunch of good offspeed stuff and so Vaz and Jesus are very adept at recognizing and handling the offspeed stuff.

    In fact the feeling was that Vazquez would have trouble catching up to a very good to plus fastball and when he put that thought to rest the Yanks knew that he’d be a masher.

  71. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Randy-

    Thanks.

    I value your opinion.

    You, more than most, should know what it takes to be a Catcher ?

    And what you have said is very heartening. :)

  72. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    GB-

    Thank you for your feedback.

  73. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Pat, lol – hand me the keys to the blog and I’m all set, lol.

    Sierchio, it’s not a stupid idea. I think whether Phil or Joba end up in the pen this year, they really should not be pitching just one inning. I thought Joe should have used Phil more last year – he could have gone 2/3 innings at a time. The problem then is that he would have been out of commission for a couple of days. However, so be it – someone else could set up. I think it’s very important the Yankees be creative since they insist on making Phil or Joba a set up man. 1 inning stints won’t do it.

  74. champ809 March 9th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Sierchio

    It’s not a stupid idea in fact I’ve been espousing that same idea regarding Hughes since last season and definitely for this season.
    The only problem is that you’d have to watch how many innings and pitches you’d allow them to throw on back to back days. But it makes the most sense to me if you don’t want to send the “loser”- in my example Hughes – to AAA then I think if used in this fashion you could easily get 120-130 innings out of him.
    With as deep a bullpen as we have now it shouldn’t be a problem if let’s say he’s not avail for 2 or 3 days becausse you have enough quality arms to cover plus with Joba as your #5 all of your starters would be without restrictions and could routinely give you 6-7 innings per start.

  75. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    mtu-

    sj44 who knows a thing or two about catching because of his nephew tony, pat m , CB, and gb7 who’s watched him live often all say he’s no slouch back there.

    he’s not. he’s big and maybe like , gb7 says, that makes him look slow with his feet.

    with the wingspan he has , he may cover more ground than it appears back there.

    he looked fine to my eyes.

    he looks like he’s taking the craft seriously.

    the yankees may have to talk to him and tell him not to sacrifice his body like he did on that play at the plate.

    you have to love the aggressiveness, and that’s what you want to see, but that’s a risky play.

    don’t want a leg or knee injury doing that.

  76. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Champ, I’m just basing on the very little thatI’ve seen of him this spring…As with young power and agreesive type hitters, he’s seems to chase low and away breaking balls…….Joe from Long Island, the only thing I really know for any certainty about catchers, is to make all throws to home at the belt on the 3rd base side of the plate…And don’t get on the wrong side of them, there angry guys with gear on….Betsy, I was not at all referring to you at all…With such a moral and hot topic as drinking and driving, it could have become a bs shouting match, Jerkface with his comment I thought nipped it in the bud…..It’s a private and embaressing topic, I choose to leave it alone….

  77. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    One thing about Montero’s two throws to 2nd on the steals. He had almost zero chances to throw them out. The pitchers have no idea what it’s like to hold runners close, and he still almost got both of them. For a 20 year old, he was impressive and he’s learned a lot in the last year since Charleston. Still needs to get his game calling down and this is an area that Pena, Girardo and Posada can really help them. Sabathia, Pettitte and Rivera can tell him what pitchers are looking to do, also.

  78. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Pena, ***Girardi*** and Posada can really help them (as well as Romine)..

  79. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Randy I, Montero makes the batters boxes look small

  80. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Pat M, I’m glad – I didn’t think so, but I wanted to be sure. I agree that this is a hot button topic and it became very unpleasant. I will just say that I hope this doesn’t affect the Yankees organization in any way – whether in terms of signing IFAs or anything else.

  81. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Betsy,

    No drinking huh? I would love to see your posts during a game after a few drinks. That would be interesting

  82. Joe from Long Island March 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Betsy, yeah, he had a brief interview on the YES broadcast with Jack Curry, late of the NYTimes.

    He answered quickly, thoughtfully, and his eyes showed that he was following Jack and the conversation. He just looked mentally together, or intact, as the neurologists say. I’m sure he wants to get back to action, and may be minimizing his symptoms, but his responses looked pretty good, via the TV.

    I agree, you have to be very careful about concussions (I’ve seen post-concussion disasters in young athletes). It seems that the Yankees have been careful in handling him, with several exams by more than one doctor, over the days.

    I wonder if they’ve done psychometric testing, which is the objective testing of someone’s thinking and personality measures. This is something relatively new. Ideally, you do a baseline exam at the start of the season, so you have something to compare to. I doubt they have this, but it’s something that MLB should think about. It’s something gaining traction in the NFL – as well it should.

    Randy – thanks. The blog conversation has helped me a lot in my knowledge and appreciation of the game.

  83. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    pat m -

    yeah , he’s going to make some umpires look like midgets.

  84. jerseybillfromva March 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    sierchio. I agree with more than 1 inning for Joba. what I disagree with is the contempt for The Goose. He never ‘dissed’ the Goat. He clearly stated Mo was the best of his generation. How is that a diss? Closers weren’t used like Mo in Gooses time. Weren’t even called closers. You can’t compare them.

  85. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Randy-

    From what you have just said I think we should put the notion of Montero not making it as a Catcher to bed.

    For good.

    And yes, sticking his leg out did appear to invite potential injury.

    Perhaps, he was trying a
    little too hard to impress ?

    A #5-6 catcher with a #9
    level bat is fantastic to contemplate. :)

  86. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    I’m so glad to hear Montero is doing well so far behind the plate; I really want him to stick it to the Keith Laws of the world who insist he’s a brick wall back there. Of course, that means my favorite prospect will never catch for the Yankees, but GB’s idea of converting him to the OF has stuck in my craw since he mentioned it, lol.

  87. David in Cal March 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Betsy mentions the problem that if Joba/Phil pitches more than one inning, he’ll be out of commission for a couple of days. Maybe the solution is to have both Joba and Phil in the pen. Each can pitch multiple innings in relief. When one of them is resting, the other will be available.

    I doubt this will happen, because clearly the Yanks want the 5th starter to be Joba or Phil. But if Aceves, Gaudan or Mitre does earn the 5th starter job, it might work out well for everyone.

  88. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    joe from long island-

    do you know if there’s actually physical damage done when someone has a concussion.

    what exactly gets hurt in the brain ?

    i did some research on the web , but there seems to be quite a bit of debate about what a concussion is.

  89. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    LGY, no – you wouldn’t, lol. Actually, I have been going to sleep at ridiculous hours during the workweek, so I think I’m overtired. Just as people can get into an accident driving drunk, so they can get into an accident falling asleep behind the wheel. Maybe some of my weird posts here are the result of being overtired, lol.

    Joe, I think the Yankees do that baseline thing you mentioned; in fact, I think it was Curry who mentioned it yesterday. I forget who he was talking to – Chris Shearn maybe – but the interview is probably still on YES.com.

  90. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    GB-

    Thank you for your feedback.

    ————————————————————

    Any time, MTU. I’m just an observer and Randy’s more of the board “catching expert”, so, reading his views would carry the weight. (Just don’t tell him I said that. It’s difficult enough dealing with him on the board”.

  91. 108 stitches March 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Nick Johnson is just one of many including lower level players that will be tutored by Kevin Long this month
    It’s a daily routine for him in constantly looking for and correcting flaws.

  92. m March 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    I think it’s a disservice to have Joba and Phil in the bullpen.

    On paper, it’s a great idea. But it’s not maximizing the talent.

    If Joba can’t be a starter, put him in the pen.

    Phil is a starter, put him in the rotation.

    Those who can, start.

    Those who can’t, relieve.

  93. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Here’s a link from the very best:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/heal.....on/DS00320

    Concussions are common, particularly if you play a contact sport such as football. But every concussion, no matter how mild, injures your brain. This injury needs time and rest to heal properly. Luckily, most concussions are mild and people usually recover fully.

  94. m March 9th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Ace doesn’t belong in the bullpen, either.

    There’s just no room in the rotation.

  95. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    “Perhaps, he was trying a
    little too hard to impress ?”

    i think it was very close to instinctual for montero to sacrifice his body to block the plate.

    that was surprising to me because there’s no time to think there.

    the ball is up and away and the runner is coming in hard.

    he just went right back after the runner.

    like i said, i love the aggressiveness because it shows he’s really into it.

    a good catcher takes it personal when a runner crosses the plate.

    that said, a little ole tag there might be in everyones best interests.

  96. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    I’m so glad to hear Montero is doing well so far behind the plate; I really want him to stick it to the Keith Laws of the world who insist he’s a brick wall back there. Of course, that means my favorite prospect will never catch for the Yankees, but GB’s idea of converting him to the OF has stuck in my craw since he mentioned it, lol.

    ————————————————————

    Betsy, even if the Yanks played Romine in the outfield a lot of the time, he’d still be able to catch games. NYY won a lot of WS titles with Howard, Berra and Blanchard sharing the catching spot along with left field.

  97. m March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    oops.

    It’s a disservice to have BOTH Joba & Phil in the bullpen.

  98. Boston Dave XXVII March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Mauer, Wieters, Posey, McCann, Jesus Montero, Miguel Montero… (Tony Sanchez :) )

    could they end up being the best set of young hitting catchers in the history of the game?

  99. Zuzu's Petals March 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    John Flaherty seems like a nice guy, but I don’t think he could be more vanilla as an announcer if he tried.

    Everything is roses and sunshine.

    “He looked good striking out there. I liked the way he approached that at-bat, even if he did leave the bases loaded.”

    Come on, John, loosen the collar a little bit.

  100. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Drinking and Driving is a really black and white issue to me.

    You don’t do it. Period.

    Its easy to shrug off a DUI if you get caught before no one is hurt. But what if he did hurt someone?? Would it really be no big deal then?

    Everyone knows that drinking and driving is against the law. Anyone who does the opposite not only shows a total disregard for the safety of themselves, but the law.

    I live and work on Long Island. I drive everywhere. Its very frustrating to go to happy hours after work and only be able to drink one beer (I know my tolerance and I know the law), but I stick to that one beer. I could never, ever live with myself if I actually hurt someone.

    I just don’t see why this is a debateable issue.

  101. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    GB, really? That’s actually a good thing because it would save Montero wear and tear on his knees. I know you’ve preached versatility in the Yankee kids and I have to agree that that is the way to go.

  102. m March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    maybe Flash needs a lap dance. :roll:

  103. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “No drinking huh? I would love to see your posts during a game after a few drinks. That would be interesting”

    let’s go yankees-

    are you old enough to drink?

    no lying now :)

  104. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    GB-

    “(Just don’t tell him I said that. It’s difficult enough dealing with him on the board”.”

    Wild horses couldn’t drag it out of me !

  105. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    “could they end up being the best set of young hitting catchers in the history of the game?”

    this does seem to be some special crop of catchers.

  106. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    Randy-

    From what you have just said I think we should put the notion of Montero not making it as a Catcher to bed.

    For good.

    And yes, sticking his leg out did appear to invite potential injury.

    Perhaps, he was trying a
    little too hard to impress ?

    A #5-6 catcher with a #9
    level bat is fantastic to contemplate

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, you hate to see players getting hurt on plays at the plate, but, Montero will scare them out of that habit. He’s built like a tank. Strong legs and huge from just above the waist up. He’s not the normal big, pudgy kid.

  107. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    GB-

    Do you know which scout in Venezuela found Montero ?

    He needs to be promoted. :)

  108. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Erica

    “Its easy to shrug off a DUI if you get caught before no one is hurt. But what if he did hurt someone?? Would it really be no big deal then?”

    Then the potential punishment would be more severe, as is outlined in the statute.

    People make mistakes. They usually deserve a chance at redemption.

  109. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Rich in NJ
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
    Erica

    “Its easy to shrug off a DUI if you get caught before no one is hurt. But what if he did hurt someone?? Would it really be no big deal then?”

    Then the potential punishment would be more severe, as is outlined in the statute.

    People make mistakes. They usually deserve a chance at redemption.

    *******************

    I understand people make mistakes.

    But don’t get behind the wheel. Call a friend. Call a cab. Sleep it off. Don’t drive

  110. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    GB, really? That’s actually a good thing because it would save Montero wear and tear on his knees. I know you’ve preached versatility in the Yankee kids and I have to agree that that is the way to go.

    ————————————————————

    Until the the ’80-s and ’90s, NYY has always had that versatility….guys that played two or three positions. Nettles played all around the infield (much like Clete Boyer in the ’60s), Munson played right and 1st base as well. In the ’50s, Boyer played some of the best shortstop you’ll ever see as well as third, left, 2nd. Kubek was an outstanding left fielder and center fielder as well as shortstop and Tommy Tresh did the same. Roger Maris and Joe Pepitone were close to Mantle’s defensive equal in center field. Hector Lopez played left, 3rd and anywhere they wanted and he hit. When Mantle would be out for long stretches, they just filled from the 25 man roster instead of bringing in a blowout patch.

  111. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    randy l.
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “No drinking huh? I would love to see your posts during a game after a few drinks. That would be interesting”
    let’s go yankees-
    are you old enough to drink?
    no lying now

    ———————

    I am actually only 13. I have been identified as a sabermetric prodigy though so Bill James lets me have some wine with dinner occasionally.

  112. Joe from Long Island March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Randy – every concussion does some damage, some more than others, obviously.

    CT scans are great for showing blood or brain swelling, but the vast majority of concussions don’t show grossly evident hemorrhage, or swelling.

    MRI scanning can show some injured areas, if big enough, again showing swelling. PET scans show more info about metabolic/functional state within the brain. Research into what PET scans reveal in concussion is very preliminary at this point. Ideally, you try to correlate the anatomic info from the MRI with the metabolic/functional info from the PET.

    The ingering effects can be very prolonged – everything from headache to problems with thought an processing information, and behavior. This is where the patient – Cisco in this case – needs to be very honest as to what they’re feeling. He could be fine to play, or he may need more time. At a distance, it’s very hard to make a determination.

  113. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Rich-

    “People make mistakes. They usually deserve a chance at redemption.”

    Except in a case like mine.

    Being beyond all hope as it were.

  114. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    No, MTU, I don’t. Somebody better give him a raise, though. Not sure if hector Lopez is still doing some scouting in Panama or not, but, he should be. Good baseball man. What a bat that guy had.

  115. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Erica

    “I understand people make mistakes.

    But don’t get behind the wheel. Call a friend. Call a cab. Sleep it off. Don’t drive”

    I agree with you, but once the mistake is made, what do we do with the offender? Shun him forever, or give him a second chance? I opt for the later, especially if no innocent person’s life was affected.

  116. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    GB-
    It would be nice to know the hero’s name.

    Our Mexican scout has done a fantastic job IMO.

    Pena
    Aceves
    Banuelos
    Vasquez

    Awesome ! :)

  117. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    joe from long island-

    what you say confirms what i read. thanks.

    i still don’t exactly understand what the trauma is to the brain though

    what about this ? real or quackery
    http://www.brainplace.com/disp.....-da_CS.gif

  118. blake March 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    “I am actually only 13. I have been identified as a sabermetric prodigy though so Bill James lets me have some wine with dinner occasionally.”

    Bill James distributes alcohol to minors?

  119. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Only prodigies

  120. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    It is a father figure type of thing.

  121. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Blake-

    Whine not wine.

    Get it straight.:)

  122. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “Whine not wine.
    Get it straight.:)”

    lol

  123. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    LGY-
    “Only prodigies”

    So you’re like a Mozart, or DaVinci of Baseball then ?

    Could I get your autograph for my collection.

  124. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Rich in NJ
    March 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    Erica

    “I understand people make mistakes.

    But don’t get behind the wheel. Call a friend. Call a cab. Sleep it off. Don’t drive”

    I agree with you, but once the mistake is made, what do we do with the offender? Shun him forever, or give him a second chance? I opt for the later, especially if no innocent person’s life was affected.

    ****************

    I don’t think the absense of anyone getting hurt makes it less of a crime. I think it makes him very lucky.

    I think there needs to be consequences for the crime committed. Its not up to me to decide what they are, thats up to a court.

    Everyone knows that drinking and driving is against the law.

  125. pistol pete March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Another great day in the left field battle, Winn was 0 for 2, he stands at 111, Gardner 111, Golson 125, Thames 111, and Hoffman bringing up the rear at 071. I know everybody’s going to keep telling me it’s early, and it is but do any of you think any of these leftovers will contribute at a decent level, I don’t. Let’s face it these guys stink.

  126. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Erica, You have a very strong conviction on this matter…..

  127. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Erica-

    Is it Ok if I get smashed at my house and drive my little red wagon around the house ? :)

  128. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Erica

    “I don’t think the absense of anyone getting hurt makes it less of a crime. I think it makes him very lucky.”

    Most state legislatures believe otherwise.

    Similarly, if you intentionally assault someone (DUI, in contrast, is considered reckless) the punishment is often commensurate with the damage done.

    “I think there needs to be consequences for the crime committed. Its not up to me to decide what they are, thats up to a court.

    Everyone knows that drinking and driving is against the law.”

    I don’t disagree, but the issue I am raising is what do we do with the person after they have been punished?

  129. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    “Is it Ok if I get smashed at my house and drive my little red wagon around the house ?”

    as long as you stay away from stairs and windows.

  130. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
    Erica-

    Is it Ok if I get smashed at my house and drive my little red wagon around the house ?

    ***********

    MTU-

    You can even call me to pick it up!

  131. pat March 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Joe from LI

    Surprised me when I heard it but someone on YES yesterday (Jack Curry I think) said Cashman told him they had baseline scans from pre-ST physicals on Cervelli that the neurologist could compare.

  132. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Blake-

    “as long as you stay away from stairs and windows.”

    She’s a one story so I can’t get hurt to bad. :)

  133. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    MTU,

    Basically, but I am not really artistic. Galileo Galilei is probably a better comp.

    Unfortunately, I have a fee for any autographs but given the economic downturn I am willing to negotiate.

  134. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    MTU, carry on then.

  135. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    GB, I hope the Yanks can get back to that type of versatility…

  136. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Pat M-

    Yeah, I do feel strongly about it. Can’t help it.

    Rich in NJ-

    Its not up to me to decide the punishment. That’s up to a court. If the Yankees want to remove him, thats up to them.

    There is always community service

  137. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Erica-

    “You can even call me to pick it up!”

    You’re a Princess.

    I’ll even buy you 1 drink for your trouble. :)

  138. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Erica

    I’m not asking you to decide on the punishment.

    I made the point that Newman, even IF he is guilty, deserves a second chance.

    That’s all I’m saying. People make mistakes, but they shouldn’t be shunned because of them, if they exhibit contrition.

  139. Joe from Long Island March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    randy – SPECT scanning has the potential to give 3D computerized reconstructions. At this point, it is a research technique. That link was interesting, but I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. With something as that’s beyond cutting edge, as SPECT work is, you’re always better off stearing clear of the private operations (too many fast buck artists) and sticking with a university/medical school research protocol.

  140. Pat M. March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Pistol Pete, you should honor that great name with a tad more brain power

  141. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    LGY, how does a Sabermetrics prodigy fill their day?

  142. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    LGY-

    “Unfortunately, I have a fee for any autographs but given the economic downturn I am willing to negotiate.”

    Funny.

    But I must tell you sir in all seriousness that it is my policy, and the policy of my country NOT to negotiate with Sabremetric terrorists, or prodigies of any kind whatsoever.

    And that is final !

  143. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Rich in NJ
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    Erica

    I’m not asking you to decide on the punishment.

    I made the point that Newman, even IF he is guilty, deserves a second chance.

    That’s all I’m saying. People make mistakes, but they shouldn’t be shunned because of them, if they exhibit contrition.

    ***********************

    I am not saying throw him in jail the rest of his life, but he shouldn’t walk away scott-free either

  144. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    Erica-

    “You can even call me to pick it up!”

    You’re a Princess.

    I’ll even buy you 1 drink for your trouble.

    ******************

    Woohoo!!!

  145. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    All drunken drivers shall be stoned with Johnny Damon throwing the stones….wait would that hurt?

  146. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    “Galileo Galilei is probably a better comp.”

    ————————————————————

    Ediie Haskell is even a better comparison.

  147. Azaz March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    pistol pete March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Another great day in the left field battle, Winn was 0 for 2, he stands at 111, Gardner 111, Golson 125, Thames 111, and Hoffman bringing up the rear at 071. I know everybody’s going to keep telling me it’s early, and it is but do any of you think any of these leftovers will contribute at a decent level, I don’t. Let’s face it these guys stink.
    —————————————————————jump off the ledge now thanks

  148. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Erica-

    “Woohoo!!!”

    What a treat you are so easily pleased. :)

  149. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Erica

    “I am not saying throw him in jail the rest of his life, but he shouldn’t walk away scott-free either”

    I don’t think anyone has said otherwise.

  150. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    blake
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    LGY, how does a Sabermetrics prodigy fill their day?

    ————————-

    Class in the morning. Force our views on unsuspecting members of baseball message boards and blogs in the afternoon. Dinner with Bill. Heated arguments with of old school types to try to get them riled up and weed them out. Bed Time.

  151. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    Blake-

    “wait would that hurt?”

    Think about what you’re saying.

    The stones would never reach us. :)

  152. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    LGY-

    “Bed Time.”

    You forgot the glass of warm milk.

  153. blake March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    “Think about what you’re saying.
    The stones would never reach us. ”

    I was thinking he would be really close but I’m still not sure it would be much punishment, may tickle a little.

  154. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    MTU
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    Erica-

    “Woohoo!!!”

    What a treat you are so easily pleased.

    ********************

    Are you calling me easy??? :-)

    You called me princess. Referring to me as royalty will get you everywhere.. lol

  155. Erica - always OPPC March 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Rich in NJ
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    Erica

    “I am not saying throw him in jail the rest of his life, but he shouldn’t walk away scott-free either”

    I don’t think anyone has said otherwise.

    *******************

    YAY!!! I win the debate then. LOL

  156. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    joe in long island-

    thanks joe.
    the web is great, but it’s hard sometimes hard to separate fact from fiction especially when there’s money involved.

  157. sab March 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    pistol pete
    March 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
    Another great day in the left field battle, Winn was 0 for 2, he stands at 111, Gardner 111, Golson 125, Thames 111, and Hoffman bringing up the rear at 071. I know everybody’s going to keep telling me it’s early, and it is but do any of you think any of these leftovers will contribute at a decent level, I don’t. Let’s face it these guys stink.
    ****************************

    I agree they are all scrubs and i’m not sure crawford is the answer next year(not at 12 to 15 million per year for 5 or 6 years anyway)…..with joe nathan out for the year what do you think it would take to get michael cuddyer from the twins and put him in LF (i know he plays RF but he’s a good player – very solid and he seems like a great fit in the clubhouse). I guess it would start with a melancon and you’d have to add maybe gardner and what 1 or 2 other AAA arms?

  158. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    LGY

    “Bed Time.”

    You forgot the glass of warm milk.

    And I thought you said you were a prodigy !

  159. Azaz March 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related wonder what arod is yelling at him about

  160. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Damn keyboard !

  161. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    “Ediie Haskell is even a better comparison.”

    LOL

  162. Azaz March 9th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....EONm6EjFJJ

  163. pistol pete March 9th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Blake, I really don’t care about Damon’s arm. It really cost the Yankees badly last year didn’t it. They only won the World Series and Damon was an important cog. His 2 hole hitting was overlooked all year, he provided power when needed, speed when needed, clutch hitting and experience all year. How’d you like world series game 4. 2 out 9th inning nobody on Lidge on the mound has Johnny down 2 strikes. He battles a 10 pitch at bat, singles, steals 2nd then 3rd in one of the most heads up plays in world series history. Tex follows with a walk, and Arod delivers the go ahead run, Rivera closes and it’s 3-1. For all intents and purposes the series is over. If Damon makes out and the bullpen blows the game it’s 2-2, Burnett blows game 5 and we’re down 3-2 going back to NY. You still worried about Johnny’s arm, I’m not. I wonder which one of the left field imposters Cashman has assembled could do what Johnny did last year. I’ve got your answer, none of them. I really wish everyone would stop bashing Damon, he’s a great player, a winner, and a big game player. Ask Javy Vasquez if you don’t believe me.

  164. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    “You forgot the glass of warm milk.

    And I thought you said you were a prodigy !”

    ————————–

    Warm milk? We are much too advanced intellectually to need warm milk to fall asleep. We have precisely calculated bed time relative to our activity during the day. I shut my eyes, I am instantly asleep, and wake up exactly 8 hours later.

    Plus, Bill is lactose intolerant.

  165. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    LGY-

    “Bill is lactose intolerant”.

    How can that be ?

    He seems to love milking things.:)

  166. THE TRUTH March 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    PISTOL PETE is correct.

  167. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    ” I wonder which one of the left field imposters Cashman has assembled could do what Johnny did last year. ”

    That’s irrelevant. Granderson replaces Damon.

  168. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Azaz, I posted that earlier this morning – I thought it was a great article and a nice change of pace from some of the garbage being written lately.

  169. Rich in NJ March 9th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    You could see that Jeter and Alex were getting closer over the course of last season.

  170. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 9th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Yes, and even the year before. I always loved reading about them being best friends when they were just young bucks…it’s a nice story that they’ve reestablished a friendship.

  171. Azaz March 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    yea just look at pics from spring training its just the two of them loling.

  172. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    How can that be ?

    He seems to love milking things.:)

    ————————–

    It is all a part of the transformation, I mean process. In due time you will see my friend.

  173. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    What’s worse?

    Posting the LF candidates statistics on here every night when no one cares

    OR

    Spending time actually looking up the ST statistics of the LF candidates every night

  174. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    “Plus, Bill is lactose intolerant.”

    i’m sabermetric intolerant.

    maybe there are some special enzymes i could take.

  175. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    LGY-

    I doubt very much anyone will ever be able to see what you see.

    No one is that smart.

    Least of all a SWAT member such as myself. :)

  176. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    “In due time you will see my friend.”

    you have a friend that only you can see ?

    let’s go yankees.

    we need to talk.

  177. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    randy,

    Of course. He is still in the testing stage so only very few people have access to him. a Did you really think we were going to let subjectively flawed human beings play in the major leagues forever?

  178. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    What’s worse?

    Posting the LF candidates statistics on here every night when no one cares

    OR

    Spending time actually looking up the ST statistics of the LF candidates every night

    ————————————————————

    Or C:

    Spending days, weeks and months trying to convince the baord that UZR and 99% of sabermetrics actually mean anything and that most people really don’t care.

  179. pistol pete March 9th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Rich I believe it was Melky in center last year and Damon in left. Now it’s Granderson in center, Winn/Gardner in left, and Johnson replaced Matsui as DH. As far as Granderson vs Damon I’ll grant you the Yankees need to get younger and I applaude the trade but Granderson will have to have a great year to match Damon’s numbers. Damon had a 75 point spread in ops over Granderson, struck out far less, and can hit leftys and Granderson can’t. Damon sees more pitches which has an accumulative effect on pitchers late in games, hits well in the clutch, and does not panic on the big stage, actually he enjoys it. I wish Curtis the best and think he’s a great improvement over Melky but can only hope he can mirroe Damon’s numbers if you believe he replaced Johnny.

  180. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    ” Did you really think we were going to let subjectively flawed human beings play in the major leagues forever?”

    let’s go yankees-

    have you considered when you replace the players with robots that there will be no need for sabermetricians looking for undervalued assets?

  181. MTU March 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    I’ve gotten a concussion from the discussion and desire no more repercussions so I’ll take my contusions with me and hit the sack.

    Nite all. :)

  182. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    GB

    Leave -Eddie- I mean LGY alone. He’s playing nice with Randy. I am so proud of them both.

  183. blake March 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Pistol Pete,

    It was a joke, get a life man.

  184. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    have you considered when you replace the players with robots that there will be no need for sabermetricians looking for undervalued assets?

    —————————–

    Hmmm. That may be a problem.

    But, then again when that happens we will finally be able to sit back, watch, and enjoy baseball instead of have to play it on spreadsheets.

  185. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Tarheelyank
    March 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    GB

    Leave -Eddie- I mean LGY alone. He’s playing nice with Randy. I am so proud of them both.

    ————————————————————

    Yeah, I’m getting a little tired, but, was waiting to see the hammer upside his head.

  186. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    “- I mean LGY alone. He’s playing nice with Randy. I am so proud of them both.”

    tarheel yank-

    you probably wouldn’t be so proud of me if you knew i was tweeking some RAB posters as i was tweeking LGY.

    i call it multitweeking.

  187. Joba in the pen March 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    pistol pete

    Damon contributed greatly to the Yanks last year. But he declined the 2yr 14 million and the Yanks moved on.

  188. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    randy l.
    March 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
    “- I mean LGY alone. He’s playing nice with Randy. I am so proud of them both.”

    tarheel yank-

    you probably wouldn’t be so proud of me if you knew i was tweeking some RAB posters as i was tweeking LGY.

    i call it multitweeking.

    ————————————————————

    Oh, no!!!! Randy has become a serial tweeker.

  189. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    “which place panics more: LoHud or NYYFans?”- comment on RAB

    i saw this comment and i just had to throw my two cents worth in.

    from my brief venture into enemy territory,

    it seems they think we panic a lot and have a lot of cats over here :)

    i did kinda sorta say come on over if you think you can keep up.

  190. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Youre both killing me

  191. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    tarheel yank-

    i wouldn’t last a day on RAB.

    they’d ban me.

    gb7 is probably already banned because i posted under his name :)

  192. GreenBeret7 March 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    randy l.
    March 9th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
    tarheel yank-

    i wouldn’t last a day on RAB.

    they’d ban me.

    gb7 is probably already banned because i posted under his name

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. and it was my favorite site, too. We could have been real “chums”.

    I used to read it and loved it when an outsider would chum the water. The feeding frenzy was amazing to watch. We’re talking about ripping out each others stomachs to get at the food.

  193. pistol pete March 9th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Nathan’s out for the year and the Twins need BP help. They’ve yet to lock up Mauer. How about the Yanks deal Joba or Phil(to close), Montero (a future all star catcher), and Nick Johnson to the Twins for Joe Mauer and the Yankees ink baseballs best player to a long term deal. Posada becomes the DH/backup catcher and the Yanks walk away with the title in 2010 and beyond. WOW!

  194. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    i think let’s go yankees is in shock with me commenting over at RAB.

    i hope he and his imaginary friend, little eddie, are doing ok.

  195. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    I am shocked. I actually just went over to RAB to try and find it because that would be entertaining. Where did you post?

  196. blake March 9th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    “Nathan’s out for the year and the Twins need BP help. They’ve yet to lock up Mauer. How about the Yanks deal Joba or Phil(to close), Montero (a future all star catcher), and Nick Johnson to the Twins for Joe Mauer and the Yankees ink baseballs best player to a long term deal. Posada becomes the DH/backup catcher and the Yanks walk away with the title in 2010 and beyond. WOW!”

    Or you could just keep your future all star catcher, 2 young starters, and the 200 million its gonna cost to extend Mauer after next season.

  197. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    lets go yankees-

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/...../#comments

    starts with “which place panics more: LoHud or NYYFans?” 2:00

  198. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Thanks Randy

    I got lost over there. Almost couldn’t find my way back.

  199. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    just a minute tarheel.

    i gotta go feed my imaginary cat.

  200. Benny Blanco March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVDRYCrmyMU

    Betsy, go to youtube and type in “derek jeter and alex rodriguez interview.

  201. LGY March 9th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    thanks. pretty funny

  202. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Randy

    Ok found it.

    Good job. They are a little full of themselves over there.

  203. NYY626 March 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    # Benny Blanco March 9th, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVDRYCrmyMU

    Betsy, go to youtube and type in “derek jeter and alex rodriguez interview.
    ________________________________________________________________
    I saw these a few months ago. Cutest thing ever. They look like babies!

  204. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    benny blanco-

    that jeter/ arod youtube video was excellent.

    the funniest part was alex saying jeter fedexed his world series ring to him saying he did it by mistake and could alex forward it to jeter .

  205. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Randy

    I always thought it would be kind of funny to go to another blog one night en-masse and take over. :D

    Maybe RAB or go visit Pete A. HA, that would be funny!

  206. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    let’s take a vote .

    who would cause the most trouble over at RAB ?

    i’ve got a lot of experience dueling with the sabermetrically inclined.

    sj44 would get in their grill.

    gb7 would pull out the blunderbuss.

    but my vote is for trisha.

    there aren’t many women posters over there and she doesn’t pay much attention to era+

    i don’t think they’d be ready for her.

    their servers would blow up.

  207. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Tag team them
    You can start, soften them up, find thier weakness.
    And then WAM!
    Trish —-our secret weapon.

  208. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    tarheel yank-

    kind of like in my teen days when we’d drive our muscle cars through an enemy town’s local hang out area.

    that could be fun.

    but somehow i think our blog meisters chad, sam , and josh might not like that.

    peter a. though could use the traffic

    that’s not his fault though.

    that format over there just doesn’t work well.

  209. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Actually now that I am thinking about it she is already famous over there.

    Recently her and wait ( i dont remember the full name) got into it about something. He ran back ( tail between legs) there and complained, said he was never coming back. HAHA.

  210. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    “kind of like in my teen days when we’d drive our muscle cars through an enemy town’s local hang out area.”

    exactly

    believe it or not I read pete a lot. It can be a ghost town over there. I wonder if he misses this place.

  211. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    “Tag team them
    You can start, soften them up, find thier weakness.
    And then WAM!
    Trish —-our secret weapon.”

    precisely.

    this blog has been exposed over a long period of time to trisha’s energy and racheted up.

    but RAB in a surprise attack.

    i definitely think their site would crash.

  212. jerseybillfromva March 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Erica, earlier you wrote that you ‘ll stick with you’re one beer at happy hour and go home. The problem is, the smell of alcohol can and will get you, yes you, arrested for suspicion of dui. True, you will likely beat the charge. The costs will be asap, aa, about 5g in legal fees, but no dui on your record. If you’re famous, the charge gets published. Only the charge. Not the acquital. This is wrong! All of it! The pendulun has swung too far. You and I shouldn’t have to pay for the crimes of Drunk drivers.

  213. Tarheelyank March 9th, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    Randy
    One night, when we are bored. well do it.

    Right now, I have 6am staring me in the face. Have a good night.

  214. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    ‘The problem is, the smell of alcohol can and will get you, yes you, arrested for suspicion of dui.”

    a friend of mine who was at the time a homicide investigator for the public defender’s office in sarasota told me to always chew gum when leaving a sports bar if you had any alcohol at all and say that i was coming from church if stopped for anything.

    that said, i think the DUI laws need to be tough but fair.

  215. randy l. March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    you got it tarheel yank.

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