Spring Training Game 10: Yankees vs. Orioles
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 13, 2010 
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YANKEES
Brett Gardner CF
Nick Johnson DH
Jorge Posada C
Robinson Cano 2B
Curtis Granderson LF
Randy Winn RF
Juan Miranda 1B
Brandon Laird 3B
Ramiro Pena SS
RHP Javy Vazquez (15-10, 2.87 ERA in 2009)
ORIOLES
Adam Jones CF
Cesar Izturis SS
Nick Markakis RF
Miguel Tejada 3B
Matt Wieters C
Garrett Atkins 1B
Ty Winninton 2B
Lou Montanez LF
Michael Aubrey DH
RHP Jeremy Guthrie (10-17, 5.04 ERA in 2009)
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m./MY9
WEATHER: Perfect. The anti-yesterday. Sun shining. Breeze blowing. Temperatures in the upper 60s to low 70s.
UMPIRES: HP Marty Foster, 1B Jeff Kellogg, 2B Mark Carlson, 3B Sam Holbrook
ON THE LINE: This is the first start in left field for Curtis Granderson, who could be asked to open the season there if the Yankees decide they prefer Brett Gardner in center… Also another chance for Alfredo Aceves to continue his strong start this spring.
UPDATE, 12:55 p.m.: When I went home this week, I found four issues of Sports Illustrated had arrived since I left. One of them had Orioles catcher Matt Wieters on the cover, and the story is worth reading for Yankees fans. Not only is Wieters one of those names you simply have to know in baseball right now, but the story also deals with catching prospects in general — Jesus Montero’s name is mentioned — and the difficulty of finding one who can handle both sides of the position. There’s a reason the Yankees keep adding catchers to their already catching deep farm system.
UPDATE, 1:15 p.m.: The Yankees just announced that this game will go a full nine innings. No matter the score, there will be a bottom of the ninth. The Orioles must have a pitcher who needs to get in the game late.
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: Brett Gardner led off the bottom of the first with a walk, then scored without a play on Nick Johnson’s double to left. Yankees up 1-0 before making an out.
UPDATE, 1:23 p.m.: Make that 2-0 before making an out. Back-to-back singles by Jorge Posada and Robinson Cano have scored Johnson put runners at first and second for Curtis Granderson… And now Granderson has singled to load the bases for Randy Winn.
UPDATE, 1:27 p.m.: Good news out of Lakeland. Francisco Cervelli singled in his first at-bat. Meanwhile, in Tampa, it’s now 3-0 after a sacrifice fly by Juan Miranda (Winn popped out).
UPDATE, 1:41 p.m.: Make that 3-2 Yankees. Ty Wigginton just took Vazquez deep for a two-run home run, his second home run of the spring.
UPDATE, 1:46 p.m.: Mark Feinsand was the only beat writer to go with the on-the-road half of the Yankees. He’s updating his Twitter with some game details.
UPDATE, 1:57 p.m.: The top of the Yankees lineup came to play. Three straight hits from Gardner, Johnson and Posada have led to another run and a 4-2 lead. The hits stopped when Ty Wigginton made a nifty play — backhand, flip with the glove — to start a 4-6-3 double play on Cano’s grounder up the middle.
UPDATE, 2:01 p.m.: First challenging ball hit to left field. Granderson made a nice running catch in foul territory. Second sort-of challenging ball hit to left, Granderson had to go back on the ball and made a fairly routine catch near the track.
UPDATE, 2:12 p.m.: So much for the perfect spring. Alfredo Aceves just allowed a lead-off home run to Garrett Atkins. Aceves hadn’t allowed a hit or a walk in his first six innings this spring. It’s now 4-3 Yankees.
UPDATE, 2:16 p.m.: Ramiro Pena. That dude can play some defense.
UPDATE, 2:38 p.m.: Just talked to Vazquez, who really didn’t have much to say. He made some good pitches. Missed with some changeups. Wigginton homered on a fastball after a couple of sliders. “My arm strength is good, my body feels good,” Vazquez said.
UPDATE, 2:53 p.m.: Over in Lakeland, Johnny Damon has homered off Sergio Mitre, who has allowed three runs through two innings. Damon’s homer was a solo shot.
UPDATE, 3:11 p.m.: The changes have been made for the Yankees. Ring is pitching, Pilittere is at first, Montero is catching, Corona is at second, Golson is in center, Curtis is in left and Weber is in right.
UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: I’ll say it again, Ramiro Pena can play some defense.
Is it on tv/radio?
so many lefties, wow. lol
its on ch 9
How’s Randy Winn doing this spring? Haven’t heard anything about him yet.
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MTU
March 13th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Erica-
If you like I can give Guiness a call and let them know you are going for it ?
Most consecutive days worked by a CPA.
I,m hoping you fail, of course.
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LOL. I would lose. I haven’t been working Sundays.
September/October 2008 I got hit with a terrible October 15th deadline nightmare. I was working until 10 every night and Saturdays and Sundays. That was far worse.
I am in total survival mode until April 15th, though. The last few weeks were tough but that was mostly cause I didn’t feel well but didn’t go to the doctor. Now that I am finally on medicine and hopefully recovering, the remaining few weeks should go a lot better
can it be watched online anywhere?
Erica-
Glad to hear the positive.
Kav-
Mlb.com
MTU-
Anywhere for free?
Kav-
Sorry. Don’t know.
As I said earlier, it was refreshing to hear from Dave Eiland through today’s papers that the fifth starter competition is wide open and that there are no favorites. It cleared up a lot of confusions that this was only a two horse race b/w Phil and Joba. It makes me feel as if the staff will choose the starter who earns his spot as the fifth starter rather than mainly on prospect hype and supposed organization longterm best interests.
It will be interesting to see what Aceves does today – b/c he is still very much part of the race for no. 5.
BloggingBombers Cervelli also making his return to the lineup here in Lakeland, Gazoo helmet and all.
about 1 minute ago
OK, I must see a picture of Cervelli in this helmet
Pat M, actually it was Chris’s post referring to Eiland’s comments and Girardi’s “20 percenters” that reinvigorated me on the topic. These ocassional nuggets reinforce to me that my original take on the matter is likely pretty spot on.
Woooo Tino’s on!
Hmm… that’s an interesting nickname
Nick Johnson 2.0
Nick 2.0
Johnson 2.0
BloggingBombers Johnny Damon batting second, Austin Jackson batting third (!??!??!?) for the Tigers.
about 1 minute ago
Or, they are just toeing the company line since there is no upside to say saying anything otherwise.
They are leaving themselves plenty of wiggle room on the topic when they got into such detail to minimize ST results.
In other words, they are diffusing what guys not named Chamberlain and Hughes are doing in the Spring.
The only way its a “true” open competition is if someone not named Hughes or Chamberlain is named the 5th starter if everyone is healthy.
Gerrit Cole update….Former Yankee # 1, picked up his 4th win of the early season with a 15 K performance as he pitched 7.2 innings, he walked 2…..At one point he whiffed 7 straight, and for the season he has 41 K’s in just 25 innings…..This was vs. Texas Corpus Christi…..And it’s only early March…..WOW
Juan que paso!
Eiland and Joe are lying through their teeth and the media has fallen for it.
Gerrit Cole….
I vote for toeing the company line. There’s always a chance, but that involves both young guns falling flat on their faces.
I think they took a good long look at the past, the present, and the future.
Trisha
I have to agree with SJ on this one. Mitre, Gaudin and even Aceves might be fighting for a 5th rotation spot, but not with the Yankees. The better they do, the more likely they get moved. Of course injuries can change all of that real quick.
as a first baseman, Miranda makes an excellent designated hitter.
BloggingBombers Jeter leads off with a single. I guess he’s feeling better. Swisher promptly hits into a double play. I’m sure that won’t bother him at all.
about 1 minute ago
Up yours Gerrit
SJ, I guess I’m just not buying the “company line” stuff anymore. I think it’s a convenient way to explain away why you believe the competition is between two and two only. For them to say the guys are 20 percenters is not to say that they are not hoping that Joba or Phil step up and take the job. It’s saying that unless one or the other proves himself in terms of what they are looking for, they won’t get the job.
A competition between two people mean one or the other has the job sewn up. That is apparently not the case here.
Girardi has said all along he will name a 5th starter by March 24.
Why change that now? There is no reason for them to say anything other than they are saying right now.
Sometimes, its not what they say, its what they DON’T say.
If its a “true” competition than the guy with the best numbers, or who pitches the best, will win the job.
If Hughes or Chamberlain are named the 5th starter, the chances are their ST numbers won’t be as good as one or perhaps all of the other 3 guys.
If that’s the case, you will hear the Yankees talk about their side work..
Meaning, the “competition” was never 5 deep regardless of words said to the contrary.
We have 11 days to go to find out the real story.
You can take the commenter out of Staples, but you can’t take the Staples out of the commenter…
If each of the 5 candidates has a 20% chance of winning the 5th starter job, then there is a 60% chance that it will not go to Hughes or Chamberlain.
I’d be happy to wager $20 on Phil/Joba against someone’s $30 on Ace/Mitre/Gaudin.
“Up yours Gerrit”
Damn right!
I love how everyone continues to think – without any actual evidence – that Eiland was lied to the media when he says it is an open competition. The same with Girardi. This is laughable – especially when it is posters on a blog who are not employed by the Yankees, do not work in major league or minor league baseball, and are only fans. Eiland has spoken – until there is proof otherwise, there is an open competition for the no. 5 spot. Let the race continue.
the Yanks won 103 regular season games and a World Series w/out Cole.
he can no-hit every team on the planet for all I care…
Foster sees that glove move atleast 8-9 inches and still had the balls to call it a strike.
mean to say Eiland lied – exclude the was before that
BloggingBombers Damon hits a bullet right at Teixeira for an easy out. Clearly he’s intimidated facing the Yankees.
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BloggingBombers One Yankee made a great observation before today’s game: Phil Coke looks like a lefthanded Rod Beck. It’s a perfect comparison.
about 1 minute ago
I like Johnson 2.0
Nick the Stick!
Chris, you can think that if you want to, but the Yankees have spent years grooming both kids as starters. Mitre, off of one good spring (if he even continues that) is going to block Phil or Joba? That’s ludicrous. Aceves? He’s a nice pitcher to have on a team, but he hardly has upside. Gaudin I like, but he’s a reliever/spot starter at best. I admit that I do not understand why anyone would want either Phil or Joba to win the 5th spot, but different strokes for different strokes. Those of use who believe it’s not an open competition don’t have to prove anything – it’s our opinion. People don’t have to prove their opinions.
Nick in SF…Thank’s as it was a very long day and a longer night…..I ebded up making a few bucks….I like your bet
Trisha,
Not true. Why are they putting in all of this time to develop their young pitching, if they are going to give the job to a journeymen arm. Which, whether you want to believe it or not, are all Mitre and Gaudin are.
Aceves? His back probably can’t hold up for 150+ inning usage. Plus, Girardi loves the role he has on the team because it gives him a great deal of flexibility in the bullpen.
Like I said, there is no reason for the Yankees to say anything publicly that is different than what they have said before.
All 5 guys can’t make the team unless there are injuries. The better they all pitch, the more options on the trade market the Yankees have for one or two of them.
You pride yourself on believing everything that is said by a Yankee official. That’s your right.
However, if you believe they are ALWAYS telling the truth with their public statements, you are being naive.
BloggingBombers Chad Gaudin works a 1-2-3 1st inning, but it didn’t help him. All 3 balls were hit hard, including two to deep center. Not fooling anyone.
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Why is Nick Johnson batting 2nd in all his ST starts?
Tar, it’s all good. That’s why there are so many flavors of ice cream – or something. As we can see from reading this forum on any given day, baseball is not a one-size-fits-all game. On just about every issue you will find people seeing it from different perspectives, with all convinced that their perspective is the correct one.
I have never needed numbers behind a cause, although on this one there are certainly posters on both sides of the issue.
(Think back to the Jorge/Molina issue and the huge amount of grief the Molina side took. We ended up being correct in the way things played out but you never would have known it reading the opinions postulated here.)
ST is really meaningless. Chad Gaudin did a fine job last year when it counted; I don’t care what he does in ST when it doesn’t count. Same goes for everyone else.
Erin, you’re really on the ball today!
nice to see Jeremy Guthrie in mid-season form.
‘Why is Nick Johnson batting 2nd in all his ST starts?’
OBP% he and Pujols in the NL were 1 and 2 in that category
and the next guys in Teix or Al either score you or hit it out of the park.
Chris,
Lots of assumptions there…
First off, some of us are pretty well informed with happening in and around the Yankees and in the game from contacts within the game.
Second, nobody is saying Eiland is lying. He may be however, not telling the entire truth. Mainly because, there is no reason to do so.
Its in the Yankees best interests to have all 5 guys pitch as hard as they can every time out.
If you want to believe Sergio Mitre is a serious candidate for the rotation, fine by me.
On March 24, I’d venture to guess that the guy who wins the “competition” won’t have the best ST numbers. If that happens, then it wasn’t a true “competition” after all.
BloggingBombers Gazoo singles to right in his first at-bat. Despite what he said the other day, he’s keeping it on to run the bases.
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I never said I had a preference to who would win the no. 5 spot – I just do not like having people on a blog think they know everything when our own pitching coach – a WS winning pitching coach – says it is a wide open competition. That is my point – it is not about one pitcher winning over another – it is people coming on here and saying that Eiland lied or he is not telling the truth – that is a two horse race – when the pitching coach vouched yesterday that it is a five man race. Until proven otherwise with actual proof that Eiland lied yesterday, it is a five man race. As said earlier, let the race continue today.
Erin – are you watching? Did you get to see Cano’s hit with RISP? lol
I think the fans at Yankee Stadium should chant GAZOOOOOO when Cisco comes to bat.
So now we have contacts – well I have Dave Eiland telling me otherwise. I would like to know from your sources who they are and what they actually told you. This is very concerning for me if the pitching coach is not being on the level with the fans through the media. Speaks of Mets type relations.
“nice to see Jeremy Guthrie in mid-season form.”
Is he giving up 7-0 leads to the Red Sox?
Nick the Stick seems to have taken to Kevin Long’s adjustments. Swisher obviously is a failure because he hit into a double play, lol.
Kevin Long’s contract is up this year…
BloggingBombers A. Jackson makes another tremendous catch, this time against the wall in right-center. I don’t know if he can hit, but he plays a mean CF.
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On another note the competition for what I’ll be making for breakfast is still wide open.
On the one hand I can make waffles in my waffle iron to go along with eggs and turkey bacon.
On the other hand I can leave the waffle out of it and strictly go with fried cheese eggs and turkey bacon on a hero.
I’ve thought about foregoing breakfast altogether as it’s already 1:20 here in the Bx. and I may just want to make lunch instead but I’m actually lying through my teeth as the competition is really just between the two breakfast items.
I’ll decide by 1:30 what the truth actually is and will let everyone know when I come up with the winner.
Tony’s on crack if he thinks Gerald Laird is the best catcher in the league at blocking balls in the dirt.
Chris,
If you are looking for this place to be an extension of the PR Department of the Yankees, you are in the wrong place.
Its a subject that’s being debated everywhere.
If you just want to believe the Yankees, nobody is telling you not to.
Just that don’t always believe what’s said publicly by managers and coaches because they don’t always tell you the entire truth.
If they did, there would be no reason to keep anything to themselves.
Trisha, are you saying that everything you said last season about Jorge/Molina was correct?
“Those of use who believe it’s not an open competition don’t have to prove anything – it’s our opinion. People don’t have to prove their opinions.”
You go girl. That’s what we are all dealing with all the time here. Our opinions. Nothing more, nothing less.
NYY626
March 13th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Erin – are you watching? Did you get to see Cano’s hit with RISP? lol
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No, I’m not-sadly, MLB Network isn’t showing the Yankee game today and since I’m out of market I don’t get YES. Very much looking forward to calling in a couple of weeks to get my extra innings package!
I’m disappointed I missed it.
jennifer
March 13th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I think the fans at Yankee Stadium should chant GAZOOOOOO when Cisco comes to bat.
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I second this!
Trisha
I respect and know exactly where you are coming from.
Plus, I know how much you love rooting for the underdog.
I did say that Eiland was lying, but I didn’t mean it with such a negative connotation. I meant that I don’t believe him or Joe for a moment when it comes to the competition for the #5 spot.
All opinions are not created equal.
How old is Randy Winn?
Erin March 13th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
NYY626
March 13th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Erin – are you watching? Did you get to see Cano’s hit with RISP? lol
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No, I’m not-sadly, MLB Network isn’t showing the Yankee game today and since I’m out of market I don’t get YES. Very much looking forward to calling in a couple of weeks to get my extra innings package!
I’m disappointed I missed it.
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Ohh sorry about that! Its on Ch 9 in NY. Don’t worry, there are 162 games coming up in which you will get to see Cano lol
BloggingBombers Gaudin gets Miggy Cabrera to roll over on an easy grounder to SS, but Clete Thomas singles and Ryan Raburn doubles. 1-0 Tigers.
12 seconds ago
“Just that don’t always believe what’s said publicly by managers and coaches because they don’t always tell you the entire truth.”
For that matter, sources and contacts do not always have accurate information.
Chris-It is obviously a 2 man race between Hughes and Joba. They will be given every opportunity to succeed in the rotation before the likes of Mitre begin seeing regular starts.
Brandon, thanks for the response on Nick Johnson. I was confused because I read on LoHud that the #2 hitter was going to be Curtis Granderson.
“On March 24, I’d venture to guess that the guy who wins the “competition” won’t have the best ST numbers. If that happens, then it wasn’t a true “competition” after all.”
That’s misstating what the Yankees have already said. Read what Eiland said they are looking at.
Chris,
Really, get a grip. Where is it written that Dave Eiland MUST TELL THE FANS THE TRUTH about a competition for roster spots on the team. He owes no such responsibility to us.
People on here that know me know who I know in the game. If you choose not to believe it, fine by me.
I’ve said since January, and its been backed up by just about every beat writer and several national baseball writers, that the fifth starters job was Phil Hughes’ job to lose. That coming from people involved with the ballclub.
There is also growing believe that Joba’s place may be in the bullpen long term. A belief that Brian Cashman, the previously biggest supporter of Joba to the rotation, did not discount in several interviews AND in his talk at the University of New Haven.
All I am saying is, what’s said publicly isn’t always what is believed privately when it comes to ANY team, not just the Yankees.
Erin and it is only because we love Cisco. Not meant to be mean.
Weiters also played SS and started a game.
“Brandon, thanks for the response on Nick Johnson. I was confused because I read on LoHud that the #2 hitter was going to be Curtis Granderson.”
Yeh, GI Joe values getting on base in that spot more than the speed.
NYY626
March 13th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Ohh sorry about that! Its on Ch 9 in NY. Don’t worry, there are 162 games coming up in which you will get to see Cano lol
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I know-seriosly cannot wait!!
I don’t think that Eiland and Joe are lying per say, but it would be really mind boggling if one of Joba/Phil didnt win the 5th spot. Actually, I think it would be really odd if Joba doesn’t win the 5th spot just because of everything they put him through with the innings limits last year . JMO though….
(P.S. this is not to say I want hughes in the Pen forever, I definitely think both should be in the rotation in the future)
SJ,
Not for nothing, while you may have your sources don’t act like your sources about the Yankees are always 100% correct, because you and I both know that they aren’t.
You may have contacts with the Yankees but last year you were adamant about Mark Teixeira not coming to the Yankees and you were dead wrong about that.
You may indeed be right about the whole Phil Hughes and Joba Chamberlain thing, but don’t act like your word on this blog is the absolute word about the Yankees.
“People don’t have to prove their opinions.”
They also don’t have to repeat them over and over and over and over and over and over again.
100+ losses this year for Baltimore?
Kevin Millwood is their ace. lol.
they are just awful.
Eiland lied, Mitre cried?
HR Javy, redux.
Nick in SF…My calendar reads March 13 th…..I will gladly make a wager that Curtis Granderson will have MORE ab’s in the 2 hole than Nick the not so quick !!!!!!!
jennifer
March 13th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Erin and it is only because we love Cisco. Not meant to be mean
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Oh, absolutely. The thought that it was mean never crossed my mind!
BloggingBombers Damon singles in a run. 3-0 Tigers, bases still loaded for Jackson. Gaudin fading quickly from fifth starter’s race.
about 1 minute ago
I can already see what Javy is going to have to put up with this year. The fans will have absolutely zero tolerance with him; they will never forgive him for 2004 as if he’s the only one to blame. I wish he could make all his starts on the road, lol.
Pat M, Curtis could surely take over that spot during the season for various reasons, but who will bat 2nd on April 4th?
I have the Golden Bears booked at -2, it has moved to -2.5 since then. I also like Xavier -3 vs. the Spiders of Richmond. Congrats on your late-game success last night.
Nick Johnson has an over .500 OBP% in ST, yeh Curtis Granderson is going to have to do alot to wrestle it away from him if he stays healthy.
At this point in March, spring training is still much more about process than results.
Vazquez is still building arm strength. His velocity and fastball command still aren’t where they are at baseline for him. It’s his fastball that’s giving him some trouble – he’s missing spots and just isn’t throwing as hard as he usually does. No big deal – it’s spring and that’s too be expected.
The big story with Vazquez so far this spring is how good his curveball looks. His curve is so much better than it used to be. It’s not even close to the curve he had when he was with the yankees in 2004.
Vazquez’s off speed stuff look phenomenal – both his curve and his change – and we’re still only at the mid point of spring training.
When Vazquez gets back his fastball those two pitches will look even better as they play off the kind of quality fastball vazquez has.
He looks poised to have a very good year.
I hope that’s not the case, Betsy. Any pragmatic fan has to realize that Javy, warts and all, is a vast improvement over the Sidney Ponsons and Darrell Rasners of the world.
Why would people not forgive Vazquez?
As noted, he was injured the entire 2nd half of the season, and pitched through the injury as best he could. The anti – Carl Pavano.
Nick in SF…I locked in on The Cal Berkley Bears last night @ -2…..I also have Xavier -3….Miami + 11.5…Long Beach + 1& Georgetown + 3….Cal is my big play
I think so too, CB, but I think he’s got a target on his back. Yankee fans can’t pick on Alex, so they’re going to pick on Javy. I’m afraid he reminds them too much of 2004.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day March 13th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I can already see what Javy is going to have to put up with this year. The fans will have absolutely zero tolerance with him; they will never forgive him for 2004 as if he’s the only one to blame. I wish he could make all his starts on the road, lol.
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I agree with you Betsy. If people start boo-ing him its going to drive me nuts. Sometimes Yankee fans can be ridiculous. Lets give the guy a chance!
Mostly I think NJ will bat 2nd because of the public statements of Brian Cashman… if it turned out that he wasn’t completely forthcoming, my feelings would be hurt.
NYY, it’s clear that he’s expected to perfect. I went into the game thread on NYYFans and someone already posted this: “typical Javy – looks good, gives up HR”. This is ST, mind you. When he gives up a HR in the regular season, it’s going to be Armageddon. I feel badly for Javy already.
By the way since Swish grounded into a DP, can we get on him, too? It’s ridiculous.
Looks like the Red Sox have their Opening Day lineup in today’s game.
SJ 44
Sorry – but I think it is you that needs to get a grip. Yes, the Yankees do have a responsibility to be truthful to the paying fans and customers because without the fans – they would be unable to secure advertising revenue and ballpark revenue. The pitching coach owes it to either tell the truth or not saying anything at all -especially when it comes to a competition for the no. 5 spot – it is not like Eiland is being asked to give away a game plan against an opponent.
I am also getting a little sick and tired of blog posters thinking they know everything or have this special insight into the going ons of the Yankees – you are just as in the dark as everyone else – and another thing – I really hate your tone. You are not a know it all – you are a poster on a Yankees’ blog – it is one thing to have an opinion – but your tone is way off base sometimes. I have seen it throughout just this past week – I do not post much because I personally do not like talking to posters such as yourself – your tone in handling the Gardner v. Hoffman debate and playing with certain facts left a bad taste from my end (i.e. asserting that Gardner was younger than Hoffman). You may have some sort of respect around here because you post a lot – but in my opinion, you are just as in the dark as any other fan.
Think how Nick the Stick would feel, Nick in SF? If his feelings got hurt, he’d go on the DL. Ouch -I only said this because I thought it was clever, lol. I love NJ and I think he’ll be fine.
And thanks again for getting back to me with those alleged sources (sarcasm added for emphasis).
Agreed on Long Beach State… they handled UOP with dispatch last night, a very disappointing effort from the Tigers of Stockton. I also like UNLV, Tark was in the house… go Kentucky, and go Miami (nothing on it but it’s just the right thing to do).
Am I missing something. Where is all the Javy bashing???
One 3-word post sends everyone into a tizzy? Hyper-sensitive much?
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day March 13th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
NYY, it’s clear that he’s expected to perfect. I went into the game thread on NYYFans and someone already posted this: “typical Javy – looks good, gives up HR”. This is ST, mind you. When he gives up a HR in the regular season, it’s going to be Armageddon. I feel badly for Javy already.
By the way since Swish grounded into a DP, can we get on him, too? It’s ridiculous.
______________________________________________________________Personally, I just think boo-ing someone on your own team is nuts. I used to go to games with my friends and get mad if they boo-ed Alex. It just makes ZERO sense to me. Do fans think it motivates the player when they boo them to death? Personally I rather save all my energy for hating on people like Youkilis and Papelbon lol.
Chris, if you don’t like ‘know it all’s', you should definitely avoid the posts of the commenter who says she “knows all”.
Vasquez is gonna be just fine.
NJ is making it hard for them not to put him in that 2 hole. I like the idea of Granderson there also but if Johnson can stay healthy he could put up really good numbers with the protection he would have.
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Baltimore will be better than that….they actually have a chance to be a .500 team if they can straighten out their bullpen.
I know it’s only spring but A Jax looks real real good from what I’ve seen. He’s got game. While I understand the logic of trading him for Grandy a more established player replacing Matsui’s bat in the lineup I still really wish we had AJax in pinstipes….got a real good feeling about him.
Chris
as far as the “open competition” argument….here’s the point The organization would prefer either Phil or Joba to step up and claim that role as theirs as they represent the future arms of the team and so in the pecking order they are the faves and the job is theirs to lose….but they absolutely can lose it if they are not up to snuff this ST and one of the other 3 guys may win the job to start the season. That is the only sense in which it is an open competition.
In the same interview Eiland states that the decision will not be based solely nor largely on who has the best numbers but on who is performing the best in the areas that they are specifically being asked to work on as well. That statement is the set up for, as SJ is stating, the job being awarded to one pitcher although he may not have the best #’s perse at the time the decision is made.
One thing that is very clear to all you too I’m assuming is that Mitre,Gaudin and Ace represent stopgaps in the rotation whereas Joba and Hughes would represent the future front end of the rotation and as such the Yanks and I think all fans would prefer to see one or both make the step forward and claim their futures if you will.
the Organization is best served both for this season and going forward if this happens now with Joba and Phranchise.
SJ
I disagree about Ace being able to handle a starters load as he threw close to 200 innings a year for 6-7 years straight in Mexico before we signed him.
Nick in SF..I can’t stand the overhyped Duke basketball program and I love for them to lose just to shut up Vitales loud and big mouth…..No Tarheels this year so Dickie V will be riding Duke & Kansas…….SJ, You should have never traded in your Escalade Golf Cart for that Ferarri cart, now you’re a marked man
Nick Johnson vs Curtis Granderson
NJ2.0 has an over .500 OBP% and is one of MLB’s best guys at getting on base.
Curtis Granderson has the speed, but doesn’t consistantly get on base as much as NJ2.0, the arguement is speed vs consistancy, NJ2.0 is more valueable at that spot b/c Teix and Al are behind him, no one can be stupid enough to run and risk an out w/ our 3 and 4. So I don’t get the debate, NJ2.0 >> Run Master G
That pitch Vazquez threw to struck out Wieters is a good example for why it’s so important for Hughes to develop his change up.
Hughes has had some problems with lefty hitters. His cutter will help that.
But when you can throw a change up to a lefty hitter like Vazquez did to Wieters it opens us a completely new dimension to a right handed pitcher’s game.
Vazquez’s off speed stuff looks terrific. Great change up to Markakis that fooled him badly – Markakis had a very poor swing on that pitch he flied out on; beautiful curve ball to Tejada that he got a weak swing on (and it looked like Tejada was guessing off speed); beautiful change to down and away action to K Wieters.
Great stuff from Vazquez.
Nick
Stop trying to cause trouble.
BloggingBombers Infield single for Gazoo.
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That pitch was down the pipe. But again that’s why they say ERA in ST means nada.
NYY, I totally agree.
Singleton was making SJ’s point regarding his flexibility
“One 3-word post sends everyone into a tizzy? Hyper-sensitive much?”
Leave it to Betsy to exaggerate nothing into something.
Looks like my UVM Catamounts are going to the big dance.
Betsy, I agree with you about booing your own team. I will never understand it.
Phil is lucky to have some of the best to learn from with regards to his change. He learned a new curve from Moose; I wonder if he’s chatting with CC and/or Javy about the change. AT least he’s making progress with it…
Cervelli has had a few good at bats
Trish, the most I do (at home) is yell and scream at the TV. I’v had some moments that I am NOT proud of, BUT that’s just my emotions coming out. I love the team no matter what I say in the heat of the moment,lol. Some fans seem to hate the Yankees…
Tarheelyank, I would never want to cause any trouble, but sometimes there’s trouble in my way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdH0Smbigvw
Is CR the guy that has an obsession with the Sox? If so, then I find his comment funny. If not, then I have no clue who he is and his comment means absolutely nothing to me.
Has Marty Foster been permanently assigned to ump all Yankee games in ST? I’ve only seen a few but he’s been at them.
“Has Marty Foster been permanently assigned to ump all Yankee games in ST? I’ve only seen a few but he’s been at them.”
LMAO it does seem that way, I wonder how many home games in YS he will ump.
BloggingBombers Mitre works a quick fourth inning. For those of you scoring at home, that’s six scoreless innings this spring for him (two hits, one walk).
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Nick
I love this trouble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwdJUcMHRSs
Betsy
Don’t think Yankee fans will get on Javy. They just won the World Series and 2004 is a long time ago. Javy will do well as the 4th starter. There are many other teams who would love to have Javy as their 4th starter.
“Cervelli has had a few good at bats”
I like Jose, but what an upgrade offensively Cisco will be over Molina.
At the least, not a sure Double Play on a ground ball.
I have always liked the idea of having a long relief guy that can also start in an emergency. Aceves and Mitre are both looking like they could fill that role right now.
Jeter w another hit in Lakeland. And Tex just singled after Jeter is caught stealing 2ns
.583 OBP% and rising… yeh Run Master G is not getting that spot.
Rose, I agree about Javy. I’ll wait and see on the fans’ reaction, but given their reaction to the trade, I don’t hold out much hope for them. I’m not the biggest fan of Yankee fans as you can see, lol.
Trouble:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIf7rHyP9M4
Arod w an Rbi double, Tex scores
NJ2.0 stoled off Weiters
Jim, I’m hoping the same for my Rhode Rams.
Betsy, it’s one thing to yell at your television. It’s quite another to sit there in person and boo someone you’re supposed to be rooting for. Again, it’s something I will never understand.
Chris, I think that was a very good post and I think you should feel comfortable to post here whenever you want. There will likely always be someone who agrees with your position, no matter what it is. As Betsy pointed out, despite how strong anyone here might feel about any issue, it is only an opinion. We are all on equal footing here. The ones whose opinions really mean the most are the ones whose paychecks come from the Yankee organization.
OBP Jesus swipes a bag and scores from second on a single?! Who said NJ is slow? lol
Travelers Insurance commercial version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7bGBUlx2M
I love that dog. Shot in San Francisco.
Trish, I don’t try to understand those people.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no one should have to be forced to prove they’re right. If there was such a thing as proof, it would be a fact. It’s no big deal that we’re going round and round on this – it happens all the time on blogs, message boards, etc… I mean, what else is there to talk about? How important it is the Yankees never lose another ST game?
Nick
are you looking for trouble?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXVeo7_xNsg
Trisha-I do not like the booing of players either. But I can understand why some people do it. A lot of the people attending games do not follow the Yankees regularly or watch every Yankees game like the rest of us. So the only knowledge they really have of the Yankees is the media. And they go to a game once in a while and want to see the team put on a good show, and fail to realize that a player cannot be perfect every time out there.
Of course, there are informed fans who have a bone to pick with certain players also.
BloggingBombers Mitre’s perfect spring ends on … wait for it … a solo home run by Johnny Damon.
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Colin Curtis gets no mention.
BloggingBombers Miggy Cabrera hits a “double” to center off Mitre. Jamie Hoffmann flubs the play badly. I don’t like his chances to play much CF this year.
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Damon hits a home run
I think Hughes will be the 5th starter.
Joba to the pen.
Aceves to the pen. Girardi loves that Aceves can be a long or short man.
Gaudin/Mitre will be the 5th starter only if Hughes cannot do the job. They will be a spot starter when needed.
JMO
Hoffman doesn’t appear to be doing much to win a spot on the roster……
Damon said something to arod rounding the bases and arod smirked ha
If Arsenal hadn’t scored that winning goal in the 90th minute, trouble might have come looking for me.
Go Gunners!
I’m looking through all the comments here, and I have to agree with that other poster: what the hell are you people complaining about?
There wasn’t single derogatory post about Javier that I could find. Very strange.
The only time I would boo a Yankee is if he doesn’t hustle.
How old is Randy Winn are we sure he won’t be Morgan Ensberg-ish?
tampayank
March 13th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Damon said something to arod rounding the bases and arod smirked ha
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“It’s no big deal that we’re going round and round on this – it happens all the time on blogs, message boards, etc… I mean, what else is there to talk about? How important it is the Yankees never lose another ST game?”
Absolutely with ya.
Brandon, That was as off the wall as it gets…..Winn is going to be a vital cog in the 2010 NY Yankees machine ….Is that comment just to move the conversation in a new direction ?????
Aceves is looking good; he’s keeping the O’s off-balance.
“Brandon, That was as off the wall as it gets…..Winn is going to be a vital cog in the 2010 NY Yankees machine”
No new direction convo. would be ‘Unless it’s a time machine it’s not looking that good w/ Winn right now’
Morgan Ensberg though ….
Randy Winn will do good things in pinstripes… this is my prediction.
Congrats Jim the VT Yankeefan.
Pat M.
he was a .262 hitter last season and had a lower OBP than Robi Cano, he’s 35 and that bat looks slow..IDK that’s what I see now.
This is must reading – a fantastic article on Mo:
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ivera.html
Vazquez is much funkier than he used to be. It’s gonna be a blast watching him this year.
I think it’s pretty obvious that Nick 2.O has been batting in the #2 hole consistently this spring because that will be his primary spot in the order….
That is pretty much confirmed by Ca$h’s comments about Nick Johnson was his backup plan to Damon and was then signed to replace Damon as the #2 hitter and Gen Girardi’s comments the other day that the .obp trumps the speed aspect for him in that spot as the goal would be to maximize the # of times and the # of bodies on base ahead of Tex and ARod leading to more runs scored and possible victories..
A player like Randy Winn should be on the Mets. Even Jerry Hairston Jr. would have been an upgrade.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
I thought the “Daily Spews hated” the Yankees.
That article and your earlier words are diametrically opposed.
Brandon: so you’re keeping on open mind on Winn and look forward to being pleasantly surprised?
Tar I didn’t realize one of my posts to you didn’t post. But I figured out why…
When you talked about me and the underdog, I definitely agreed. I have always been an underdog kind of kid. Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled ma*ses yearning to hit/pitch/field well.
Support for someone who is struggling can go a long way in producing successful outcomes.
It’s the America way, no?
That reminds me of something my dad had posted on our refrigerator when we were growing up. He used to post all kinds of inspirational things.
If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to be shy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with praise, they learn to appreciate.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to find love in the world.
Here’s to the children in all of us. Maybe it’s not too late to learn…
Wow, Pena just made an amazing play in turning 2….
Tim, that was one article. Any paper with Madden, Lupica and Harper on it is not very good………….this article was not written by any of them.
Ugh- I just had the most horrific time trying to get home. Its pouring and windy here. I live right by railroad tracks and there are trees down all over my neighborhood. When I went down the street I always turn down, there was a tree blocking my path. Then I tried another street and the railroad crossing was down. I waited 5 minutes and realized there was no train coming. I tried another street and it was the same thing. Then a big tree branch fell on my car and I screamed like a girl. I finally had to go 8 miles out of my way to avoid the crossing because the guards are broken. So annoying
Congrats Kentucky and Kentucky -5!
If I had take the Vols, I would feel like an ass.
Erin
March 13th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
BloggingBombers Mitre’s perfect spring ends on … wait for it … a solo home run by Johnny Damon.
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YAY Johnny!!!!!!!!
(Yes, I realize he is on the other team and I DON’T CARE!)
Brandon…I think Giradi is be very classy about how he’s approaching the Leftfield situation….He’s giving Gardner every opportunity to stay in the lineup as the # 9 hitter & leftfielder…..It’s his job to lose…..That being said, Randy Winn isn’t here to ride the pine……Winn had either an off season or it is indeed the tail end of a real nice career….I think he has some good game left….I watched Randy play maybe 25 games last season, and he still looked like Randy Winn….Time will tell, but I do respect Giradi and how he’s sticking with Gardner to start…..
Great DP.
Winn is a significantly better outfielder than Hairston and I’m sure that played a factor in the signing. Offense from Gardner/Winn will be questionable but at least the Yanks will have the option of covering the outfield in the late innings with three good defenders.
Nick: You know me so well, for once in this game I can now look at RF and have some interest Weber or Curtis atleast aren’t pushing 40 as players.
Erica, I’ve been home all day – it’s awful out. A branch fell on your car? Wow, are you ok? No such thing as screaming like a girl in that situation – I’d be terrified. I did go out to the bank earlier, actually – and stupidly parked next to a huge puddle, which I stepped in. My sneakers and socks got absolutely soaked. We have tomorrow to get through (though not nearly as bad as today) and the upcoming week looks gorgeous…
Erica, So. Cal. is where you need to be…It’s 71, sunny , no clouds, 10 mph sea breeze with a lovely scent of the Pacific Ocean in the air….
Good for you Erica!
GO JOHNNY!!
Yay, Montero is guarenteed an AB now
Well Mitre & Gaudin performing ehhhhhhh in their 3rd starts just gave Joba some breathing room.
1. Aceves
2. Hughes
3. Mitre
4. Gaudin
5. Chamberlain
Brandon Laird has had the best spring of all the Minor leaguer’s that were invitied…..GB has been touting this kid for the past 2 years…..He’s a good looking ballplayer
Next up CandyMan
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
March 13th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Erica, I’ve been home all day – it’s awful out. A branch fell on your car? Wow, are you ok? No such thing as screaming like a girl in that situation – I’d be terrified. I did go out to the bank earlier, actually – and stupidly parked next to a huge puddle, which I stepped in. My sneakers and socks got absolutely soaked. We have tomorrow to get through (though not nearly as bad as today) and the upcoming week looks gorgeous…
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I was not thrilled about going to work today. The steriods kept me up most of the night and staying in my dry apartment was so tempting. But the CPA’s work is never done……..
Seriously Betsy- when that branch fell I almost peed in my pants. I did scream very loudly. Its really an awful feeling when your road home is literally blocked off, and you are driving on broken tree branches all over the road
Pat M.
March 13th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Erica, So. Cal. is where you need to be…It’s 71, sunny , no clouds, 10 mph sea breeze with a lovely scent of the Pacific Ocean in the air….
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I’d tell you I was on my way, but I just heard on the radio there are 4 hour delays at JFK
Erica – scary; I’m glad you got home safely and hope you don’t have to go out again.
Brandon Laird seems like he has a very strong arm from what I could tell on the one throw in the top of the 8th.
Wow, Erica-glad to hear you’re OK. I totally would have screamed too.
Terrible communication in the OF on a routine pop-up.
Reegie why call for it?
Of course, the D team is in, lol
UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: I’ll say it again, Ramiro Pena can play some defense.
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Good for El Nino
Wasn’t Andhino the Marlin’s Mets killer?
Robertson is looking good……
Erin, the 2nd play was fantastic (I missed the first)……..Don’t forget, even if the Yanks hold on here I(which they did), there is still a bottom of the 9th.
drob!
Betsy & Erin-
Thanks.
. I am quite glad I am home too.
I am so not leaving my couch again today.
Betsy since early last season when he was getting a bad name for himself.. I said if D-Rob can throw strikes he’d be our version of Saito, when he was a Dodger.
AAA
Mcallister SP
Nova SP
Montero C
Nunez SS
AA
Laird 3B/1B
Mitchell SP
Bleich SP
Romine C
Garcia SP
Noesi SP
De La Rossa SP
Adams 2B
Brewer OF
^^^^^ Guys to keep your eye on in the upper levels this year.
That bat did nothing to you Jesus.
LOL the crowd at the stadium was completely confused as there was no announcement made that the teams would be playing a bottom of the 9th no matter what.
Montero smacked that pitch…
look at that power my montero…in on his fists, shatters the bat, and still gets a basehit up the middle! power!
Brandon, I don’t recall Saito as a Dodger, but I’ll take it that’s a good thing? It’s awfully nice to develop your own players…to be able to take pride in their success.
That Gazoo helmet looks like it needs a strap.
LOL ‘Hey sit down and shut up!’
Colin Curtis continues to show he should be in the #4 OF race.
Betsy Saito before he got hurt was Gagne’s successor.. he was damn near lights out.
http://www.baseball-reference......7&t=p
I think at this point I woul rather have Curtis on the opening day roster than Thames or Hoffmann.
Erica -
Glad you are okay.
Not really following today, but had to scroll up when I saw the posts about your ride home.
I have to drive to LI tomorrow. Not looking foward to it. Figure it will take all day to get there and back.
It’s horrendous weather here.
Sounds like Nick Johnson is having a good day?
And Mitre is having a mediocre one.
Thanks, Brandon!
Thames is a professional hitter; I don’t think he should be judged on ST, especially early in ST. Hoffman is a different story; if the Yankees like him, then maybe they can work out a trade with the Dodgers and send him to AAA. Right now, he doesn’t look like he’s ready for prime time.
Curtis is a lefty bat while Thames/Hoffmann are righty. Winn switch. Don’t think the Yankees are want another lefty bat.
No chance any of those three
Ace, Gaudin or Mitre will be the #5 SP, None, I’ll say that right now.
BryanHoch Lockers empty: Whelan, Garcia, Brackman, De La Rosa, Mitchell. Looks like 1st cuts
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Trevor
March 13th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
That Gazoo helmet looks like it needs a strap.
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I’m really hoping somebody gets a picture of him wearing it. I’m dying to see the Gazoo look. lol
I remember some dude arguing with me vehemently in May of last year that Edwar Ramirez had a much brighter future with the Yanks than David Robertson did.
Funny stuff.
If it weren’t for the rainouts, tag day would have been after tomorrow’s game….
BryanHoch Lockers empty: Whelan, Garcia, Brackman, De La Rosa, Mitchell. Looks like 1st cuts
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I sure hope Christian Garcia didn’t hurt himself cleaning out his locker.
Giuseppe Franco
March 13th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
BryanHoch Lockers empty: Whelan, Garcia, Brackman, De La Rosa, Mitchell. Looks like 1st cuts
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I sure hope Christian Garcia didn’t hurt himself cleaning out his locker.
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GF, I see your sense of humor is still intact………nice. I’m glad Romine wasn’t sent away – might as well keep him here as long as possible around Girardi and Pena.
YES! we keep Igawa.:D
“I remember some dude arguing with me vehemently in May of last year that Edwar Ramirez had a much brighter future with the Yanks than David Robertson did.”
That was an accurate statement at the time, but only because Edwar’s body acts as a light refractor.
Doreen – Hi – It’s pretty bad here on LI. Lots of wind and rain, especially on the South Shore, I think. I just drove from there, and it’s pretty bad on the Southern State Pkwy. I can see the road flooding tomorrow in certain spots, as it frequently does. If you can avoid driving to LI tomorrow, I’d think you’d be better off.
It’s a two man race between Thames and Hoffman for the last spot on the roster. I can see them going with Thames, as the known quantity, and maybe working out a deal for Hoffman is they really like him and want him to go to AAA. I think the Dodgers are strapped for pitching, so maybe something built around Mitre. Who knows, it might even be enlarged beyond that.
Curtis? I would guess that he would start in AAA, and, depending on how things go, might be called up later in the year if someone falters.
One thing I know for sure – it sure is great seeing baseball again.
Left field competition is heating up, Golson heads up the batting avg at 182, Gardner is closing at 176, Thames and Hoffman are at 111 and the newest sign for Cashman Winn checks in at 083. As you can see the competition for the starting lf spot has brought out the best in these killers. Left field is a joke, we’re the Yankees, we don’t shop at K mart. Gardner is a decent part timer, the rest of these guys stink, really stink. Cashman will spend money and prospects to fix this position and the bench, which is very weak, later. Damon will be missed, you can count on it.
I see Nick’s sense of humor is still intact as well.
GF, good to see you back.
pistol pete, man you shoot alot of air balls….
Pat M So who’s shooting air balls. Tell me which one of these lf killers do you want up in a tough spot in the playoffs. Answer, simple, none of the above. Please tell me which one of these players you think will do well in an everyday role as a corner outfielder on the biggest baseball stage in the world.