Notes from Friday (late night edition)
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Mar 19, 2010 
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This was pretty much the real Rays lineup tonight in Port Charlotte, and Sergio Mitre went through it for five innings, allowing two hits and one walk. He struck out seven, which would have been the highest single-game total of the spring if not for CC Sabathia’s eight strikeouts this afternoon.
“He threw the ball really well tonight,” Joe Girardi said. “Command of his fastball. He had good sink tonight. His curveball and changeup were very good tonight.”
If Mitre doesn’t win a spot in the rotation, Girardi said he wouldn’t rule out using Mitre as a reliever.
“I think Serge could do anything we ask him,” Girardi said. “Last year I think it would have been harder just because, a guy coming off surgery, it’s hard to go back-to-back days. You don’t want to rush him. But I think he’s more equipped to do that this year.”
Here’s Mitre talking about his night.
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And here’s Jorge Posada talking about Mitre’s night.
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And here’s Chad Gaudin talking about his night. “The line is worse than how he pitched,” Girardi said. “He didn’t give up a lot of hard hit balls. Defense wasn’t great behind him, (but) he wasn’t as sharp as I’ve seen him.”
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• Curtis Granderson was hit by a pitch and taken out of the game. “It was more precautionary than anything,” Girardi said. “I think it kind of grazed his hand and the knob.” Granderson wasn’t scheduled to play tomorrow anyway. He’ll be back in the lineup Sunday.
• Girardi on making fifth starter decisions: “It’s something we’re going to have to talk over in the next few days and probably make some decisions fairly quickly.”
• More good work from Amaury Sanit. Two-thirds of an inning, no hits, one strikeout.
• The Seattle Mariners seem happy with Rule 5 pick Kanekoa Texeira.
• Nick Swisher extended his hitting streak to seven games.
That’s scary about Curtis – hand injuries are nothing to fool around with.
Where did Sanit come from? He’s certainly had a nice spring…
A couple of telling quotes in there from Joe.
First it would seem that they are considering Mitre as the long reliever while most of us thought it would be Gaudin.
And Mitre has had the better Spring so far.
Second, it could be that the next start for Joba & Phil will be the last start before the decision is made.
Thanks, Chad. Go home and drink some milk, then go to bed.
Girardi “may” use Mitre as a reliever if he doesn’t win the competition? C’mon. The only other “option” is batboy.
Is it Hughes tomorrow & Joba on Sunday? A decision could come this weekend. Put us out of our misery.
Mitre + Winn = trade bait
lol, Brandon. Way to sneak in Winn.
Unless Cashman forces Girardi to use Gaudin (either because he thinks he’s better or has a trade lined up for Mitre)… Mitre is probably going to get the nod, considering Girardi likes him and he’s done nothing to lose his spot.
Really insignificant though. Whoever is the long man is not going to pitch in any important games. They will pitch in mop up or as a spot starter.
I read that Aceves is Saturday – that means AJ is Sunday and Phil Monday/Joba Tuesday? Unless, I suppose, Phil and Joba are going to come in relief of AJ and Andy.
I will be out most of the day tomorrow so I hope you guys will hold the fort down…
who cares? both mitre and gaudin stink
only times they will pitch will be to save the bullpen in blowouts. aceves will be the first guy out of the pen in a ‘close’ game that the starter gets bombed.
gaudin/mitre will only come into games that are over.
or in games we play 14 innings
Thanks for everything today Chad
If you figure that Aceves and Park are both capable of being long men then does the BP really need another one when you consider our rotation ?
I gotta go back and look. But I’m pretty sure that Joba goes a day after Hughes, and he’ll be facing the starters.
I kind of got the impression there was a split squad somewhere.
“who cares? both mitre and gaudin stink”
The Yankees were what undefeated in Gaudin’s starts last year. You don’t have to be Roy Halladay to have value and you don’t get to the big leagues if you stink.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
March 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
GB, I never heard of Farnham, but another promising catcher? LOL I love it. I think past Romine, the other kids are too young and too far away to tell how good they are or to even use them as trade bait, but if even one more of them develop, we’re ok. As you know I like your idea of letting these kids play more than one position. I guess it’s not the right time with Romine, though, as he should play every day at C. It can’t be that hard to learn the OF if the Yankees decide to convert him. Didn’t I read that Cervelli played a few games at 3rd last year (just for an inning or two, though)?
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Never played any position in the pros but catcher, but, he spent a lot of time taking infield at third with Rodriguez and at first. I could even see him playing a litle outfield corner. He doesn’t have the typical Posada/catcher’s speed and neither does Romine. Of course, a lot of catchers take infield practice at the corners, but, who knows?
A little info on Jeff Farnham. He was drafted in 2009 out of New Mexico State in the 27th round but, he hit well in his 5 pro games in Rookie ball and 3 week stint with Charleston. Good defense, good catcher’s size. Showed a big average and power in college and fast enough to steal 18 bases in 2009. whether he keeps advancing or not, I don’t know. I would expect him to open at Charleston and move on to Tampa around May, depending on who’s backing up Mitch Abeita in Tampa. He’s 22 years old.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....nham.shtml
blake essentially if you can deal one of them and stick an OF like Winn you do it, they aren’t top ceiling and you’d rather get something for them and open up a roster spot than not.
The Yankee pitching is like an Octopus – Too many arms.
“If you figure that Aceves and Park are both capable of being long men then does the BP really need another one when you consider our rotation ?”
MTU, I kinda thought the same thing. I really think one of Mitre/Gaudin will be moved but I almost think they would be better off going with a second lefty or giving Melancon a shot and keeping either Mitre or Gaudin stretched out to spot start when needed, than making one of them another long man reliever.
“blake essentially if you can deal one of them and stick an OF like Winn you do it, they aren’t top ceiling and you’d rather get something for them and open up a roster spot than not.”
I agree that one of them will likely be traded, or at least they will try to. I was just pointing out that they do have value, whether it be trade value or depth. Winn isn’t getting traded BTW.
Brandon, you’re funny when you obsess.
Radny Win = New York Yankee!
I don’t think I’ve seen the invitees last this long in camp and more importantly is how many have performed extremely well and have made such an impression…..The farm system looking real good
Blake-
I think they should consider Logan.
Where do they keep Gaudin or Mitre stretched out ? They have no options.
Thanks, GB! I think the Yanks have enough catchers – they might want to concentrate on OF/INF at this point
“I don’t think I’ve seen the invitees last this long in camp and more importantly is how many have performed extremely well and have made such an impression…..The farm system looking real good”
Curtis put yet another good swing on one today to bring his ST avg to .545.
“If you figure that Aceves and Park are both capable of being long men then does the BP really need another one when you consider our rotation ?”
I think it’s just a matter of them not wanting to lose both Mitre & Gaudin which will happen unless one of them is on the 25 man.
I think Park will be a 1 inning guy for them.
Pat M.-
I think our farm system is under rated.
Good to see the fight for this 5th starter position. This is a great problem to have.
“Mitre + Winn = trade bait”
I think you meant to say “trade chum”
from what i have seen, get rid of gaudin, keep mitre, aceves and hughes/joba.
MTU, Logan has looked good. I don’t know where they would keep them stretched out, thats the problem and why they probably can’t do that. They aren’t going to be able to trade both of them and they really don’t have anywhere to put them except in the pen. Ideally, I think they would be better off going with Logan or Melancon as the last guy because Aceves can spot start if need be, but I don’t know if they will be able to do that or not.
Bronx-
Point well taken on Mitre/Gaudin.
I was just saying that Park is capable of more than 1.
Blake, The thing is, GB has been supplying info on these guys for the past few years and now to see them play is great stuff…..Once again I look forward to the GB farm reports this summer……Giradi is running a real solid camp this spring….
“Nick in SF in Larkspur
Brandon, you’re funny when you obsess.
Randy Win = New York Met!”
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FIXED!
Blake-
Do they have to use Joba or Phil out of the pen ?
“Blake, The thing is, GB has been supplying info on these guys for the past few years and now to see them play is great stuff…..Once again I look forward to the GB farm reports this summer……Giradi is running a real solid camp this spring….”
I agree, selfishly I wish the young guys would get more PT in these games just so I could see them more. I need to get that minor league thing on the internet.
Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
March 19th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Thanks, GB! I think the Yanks have enough catchers – they might want to concentrate on OF/INF at this point
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They have a lot of young, good middle infielders. It’s the corners that they lack, butm hardly a major priority right now with Rodriguez and Teixeira “clogging up” roster space. Even their outfielders show promise, just not a lot of thumpers, though they have a few. They do have a 5 tool center fielder in Melky Mesa, but, his plate issues are much like a young Alfonso Soriano. Blazing speed and a quick, powerful bat….just no discipline. The best hitter/fielder speed combo is probably Daniel Brewer, who will open in Trenton this year. Great bat and very good speed…just not much power, yet.
Gaudin has been in the big leagues 7 years and he has been on 5 different teams.
There’s a reason for that. He started 6 games for us last year and failed to even pitch 5 innings in 3 of them.
He is a mop-up man, nothing more. If a starter went down, I’d bet they go to Hirsch, McAllister, Nova if it was more than a couple of starts anyway.
Pat M.-
GB wouldn’t know a good ballplayer from a head of cabbage !
MTU, they don’t have to but I think they will. If they send one of them to AAA then I guess they could put two of Mitre/Gaudin, Melancon/Logan in the pen, but again I don’t see that happening.
That’s the point – Gaudin/Mitre are essentially on the team as mop up men and “insurance”.
And I don’t even know how good of insurance they really would be if a starter went down anyway.
Seems like a waste when you can carry a 2nd lefty or Melancon/
Nick in SF…..20 minutes…Randle broke my heart last week with a downtown bomb at the half…..Tonight he’s my amigo
“from what i have seen, get rid of gaudin, keep mitre, aceves and hughes/joba.”
Agree
Blake-
I would have to agree.
I’m hoping that those that go see the kids play in Tampa, Trenton, Charleston and Scranton will give their views on the kids this season. It does make for fun reading. If I can ever figure out how to link some videos/pix to this thing, I’ll try and include them this year. Sadly, I won’t be able to get out there as often as I’d like early in the year.
Mitre has another year of arbitration eligibility after this season. They would be trading 2 cheap years of him away. Something to take into consideration.
MTU (aka GBURL)
March 19th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Pat M.-
GB wouldn’t know a good ballplayer from a head of cabbage !
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LMAO. I know enough that cabbage and corned beef is good eatin’.
Randle will hit the clutch FTs down the stretch… 17 minutes to hold on and then Cal becomes America’s team.
GB……Do you eat cabbage ????
Ok I must opt out and go to bed now. Night all.
GB-
” know enough that cabbage and corned beef is good eatin’.”
Evening GB.
That, and that kissing the blarney stone is good luck.
Keep those minor league reports comin’
Pat M.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
GB……Do you eat cabbage ????
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Definately. Cabbage and corned beef, cabbage with lots of sliced sausage. Love sauerkraut and kielbasa.
Nick in SF…..I have them as a pick…When they win, I’ll go 6-2 for the day and be up some nice bank for the 1st 2 days
Who was it that called Mitre “garbage”? Pay attention grasshopper and you just might learn.
Those who look for the gold ring that is only found at the END of a very long journey often miss a lot of important moments on the way.
Patience is a virtue. Wait and watch, and beware of premature judgments.
MTU, Well it appears that GB knows cabbage….I think he knows plums when he sees them as well…….Love Laird
Tonite’s optimist report:
1 JC and PH both wind up as first rate SP’s.
2 Montero sticks at catcher. Early callup
3 The Yankee win a second consecutive WS
4 Robbie Cano tears it up in the 5 hole
5 Grandy remains a dandy. Mashes lefties and righties with equal
disdain. 35 bombs @ YS
6 GGBG hits .280 with 360 OBP and 40+ stolen bases
7 Mo stays healthy
8 CC wins 20
9 Vasquez delights in his return engagement
10 AJ pitches at least 1 NO NO this season.
Nite all.
Alright Tricia, that’s a little too heavy for me to embrace, or even try to figure out…It’s late for me
Pat M.
March 19th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
MTU, Well it appears that GB knows cabbage….I think he knows plums when he sees them as well…….Love Laird
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Laird has done very well against major league and AAA pitchers this spring. Seems like he’s hit a bit of a snag lately, though. Really impressed with the defense, though. People will rag on him, though, because he won’t walk much, though he won’t strike out much either. Slow starter, but, a lot of line drive power in that bat.
When was Mitre called garbage?
Splendor at the dump?
Mitre is cabbage…
After mitre’s performance I’d probably try and unload Gaudin and keep Mitre around. A groundballer that can K people is great to have.
Oh, drool. My favorite lady at the movies is on. “Kitten with a Whip” with Ann-Margret. She can beat me any time.
I agree that one of Mitre, Gaudin or Aceves will be dealt. Cashman’s job isn’t to dump the worst one. His job is to field the most competitive offer given the talent asked for in any deal. We have no idea how the scouts of other teams value these three guys and how far they’re willing to push their front offices to acquire one.
Logan and Melancon have options so…Cashman isn’t stuck. He can sit and wait until the best offer comes along for any one of Mitre, Gaudin or Aceves.
I agree that one of Mitre, Gaudin or Aceves will be dealt.
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Aceves wont be dealt, he can go down to AAA.
I don’t think Aceves is going to be dealt.
We’re just looking to clear roster space. If they’re not going to send one of Joba, Hughes, or Aceves then one of Mitre/Gaudin must be dealt.
Yankees invested in Mitre’s rehab/future. Girardi really likes him. He makes less than $900K.
Deal Gaudin or cut him before the season.
Oops. That’s send one of Joba, Hughes, or Aceves to Scranton.
Aceves wont be dealt, he can go down to AAA.
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Like I said, we have no idea how scouts and competiting GM’s value him. We don’t know the value of offers from interested teams. If there’s a GM out there whose scouts are lobbying for Aceves for their rotation, they might offer something Cashman can’t refuse. The player dealt will be determined by the quality of the offer in relation to the value of the player, not exclusively Aceves value to the Yankees compared to the others.
Throughout his career Gaudin has had two major problems – control and facing left handed hitters.
Tonight we saw his weakness against lefty hitters.
He has one plus tool – his slider. When he can command it he can be very difficult to hit for righty hitters. But even then he doesn’t have a consistent way to get out lefties and that’s where the Rays did much of their damage.
Gaudin really is best used as a situational righty out of the pen.
He can be very effective in that role but he is going to get exposed if he has to face a lot of lefty hitters.
Pat M, wait til I tell you where I am sitting tomorrow! I will see if I ccan link to a schematic of the Dunk.
http://pages.ebay.com/venues/30923.html
Section 107, Row G! How about that, yahoo.
Aceves would be a huge hit in SoCal. How about the Padres?
Aceves has real value on the market come March 31st…..The question is, does that market value exceed his value to the club….I say no……
Gaudin also earns the most of the 3. That hurts his market. He’s probably the hardest to move of the 3. I think he makes 3.5 mil.
Gotta agree with Pat M, I think that Aceves is more valuable to the yankees than a team looking for a guy to fill in the 5th spot. If Cash gets overwhelmed, fine trade him, but I think its more likely Gaudin or Mitre are dumped.
At this point I’d dump Gaudin.
Tricia, Real nice seats…You’re in for a great time…….Dunkin Donut Arena ?????? Now I’ve heard all…..Yikes
Wow Sweeny Murti touts Jon Weber, black balls Colin Curtis…what the hell does he have to do to get some props.
Gaudin makes 2.95M. If they want to trade him and get any value back either one of two things has to happen – either it has to be late in spring and the other team suffers a major injury to its staff or the yankees would need to eat some money.
I don’t think the team is going to want to eat 1.5-2M to trade Gaudin.
At this point I’d guess Mitre has the most value given how most teams have spent out their budgets and are crying poverty.
When you look at the teams that need starting pitching – the dodger, the d’backs, etc – those are teams that have serious financial limitation on what they can do.
Mitre has pitched only 1 semi-full season in the big leagues which was in 2007 (149 innings)
Heading into a start on June 15th of that year his ERA was 1.59.
He pitched with a sore hamstring that day on the 15th and got hammered sending his ERA up to 2.29. From that point on his ERA steadily climbed. He was however able to keep his ERA under 3 until July 24th and under 4 until August 20th.
Maybe Mitre is better than we all thought. The stuff is there, because no pitcher who is garbage is able to pitch to under a 3 ERA for 3 1/2 months.
Mr. Pitino has aged a few years this evening… is the Fountain of Youth proximate to Jacksonville? He’ll have time to find it tomorrow…
m
March 20th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Aceves would be a huge hit in SoCal. How about the Padres?
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I can definitely see them seriously interested in Ace or Mitre. I don’t know how serious their offer would be if interested.
Aceves’ utility value to the team is higher than his trade value due to his role.
As long as Aceves is in the pen he’s not going to bring back that much in a trade.
In order to get value back for Aceves he would have to have a run of success in the rotation. At that point if he were to do that he would have very signficant value – value that would likely exceed his utility value to the Yanks.
The rub is that on the Yanks it will be difficult for Aceves to ever get in the rotation to prove his value.
Aceves is a guy you probably shouldn’t trade until he winds up in the rotation due to injury. You consider trading him the winter after that.
I think I would rather outright release Gaudin than trade Mitre. Although, it won’t come without cost. Not sure, but I think so.
Although, I should just take any offers that come from either/both because the lack of option problem for both players doesn’t go away next season.
My only gripe with not having any of Joba/Hughes/Mitre/Gaudin/Aceves in Scranton as a starter is that McAllister will get the first emergency callup.
If you picked Louisville, you deserve your fate.
They aren’t going to release Gaudin. They would have just non-tendered him in the winter then. It would be a significant mistake to release a guy like Gaudin after you’ve tendered him.
Given how the budget has become an issue they aren’t just going to release Gaudin.
Nick in SF……That’s a wrap !!!!!! Bring on the over rated, over hyped Duke Blue Demons…..There is absolutely no other team I would want Cal to whack other than them…..Sweet 16 is a com-min…Congrats Nick …..
Aceves is a guy you probably shouldn’t trade until he winds up in the rotation due to injury. You consider trading him the winter after that.
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I agree but I believe there’s a small chance a scouting department or two in the NL would value him based on a projection of a successful run in the rotation vs. their NL competition.
I agree though that an actual successful run for Aceves in the Yankees rotation would ring in multiple teams and drive a more favorable bidding war for the Yankees.
Nick,
You need to think about this next wager. Don’t let emotions get in the way of sensibility.
Gaudin has shown nothing here.. well I take that back. He is showing why he is 26 yrs old and has been on 5 teams already..
Keep Mitre
Didn’t the Cubs release Gaudin at the end of ST last year? Or was he traded to SD?
IIRC Chad had a post up a few weeks ago that said Gaudin’s contract is not guaranteed.
$3M is a lot to pay the last man in the pen.
Richard Pitino will find the Fountain of Youth when he is leading St. Johns next year….
Thanks, Pat M, that was a whole lot of fun. Whatever happens, Cal proved they belonged… 32 teams go home after the first round, Cal plays on. A lot pf people who wear Carolina blue are hopping on the Cal bandwagon right now.
LGY,
I think you have to pay a portion of it. I want to say 1/3?
Vitale, Bilas, Digger, and Hubert Davis must be going nuts lol
“Sergio Mitre is not the only fifth starter/long relief candidate with a non-guaranteed contract. Brian Cashman confirmed this afternoon that Chad Gaudin’s deal is also non-guaranteed.”
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201...../#comments
Just got home a little while ago and was watching a replay of the late innings. Wanted to see Montero.
First off – the kid is fine behind the plate. Maybe not great – made a mistake on ball in the dirt but Gaudin is hard to catch. I just haven’t seen any reason why he can’t stick behind the plate.
Second – he has off the charts bat speed. The double hit hit was an absolute laser. He lays off the first pitch breaking pitch. Drives the count in his favor and just destroys a fastball on the outer half. Superstar – not even all star – type bat speed.
The idea that anyone would have been willing to trade this kid is crazy.
He is the real deal – he could hit in the major leagues right now.
LOL w/ the Cardinal hate.
Gaudin is not due the full $2.5 mil if he is released at the end of ST.. only 33% of it, right?
Pat M, it used to be called the Civic Center. Then several years ago it became “the Dunk,” short for Dunkin Donuts Center. I assume DD paid some kind of premium for that name, probably bailed out the CC when it wasn’t doing well, who knows. I don’t know if DD is prominent where you are but it is a mainstay in little Rhody.
I was at Providence Place Mall tonight and I swear you could feel the electricity in the air. My friend is staying downtown (5-7 minutes away from me in good traffic conditions
) because he is some NCAA official – not like the head of the NCAA or anything, but on the board for colleges or something like that. He called and said the city is so jamming he couldn’t believe it. He said it’s been like that all week.
I am so damned psyched. College hoops isn’t my thing (I got hooped out when we had seasons tickets to the Friars games) but I am going to thrill to watching some amazing talent. Who knows, maybe I will see a future NBA player out on the court!
St. Johns needs Mark Jackson
Pitino is past his prime.
I have Cornell taking out Kansas in the Sweet 16
Not worried about a wager, m, but Duke will be laying a good number of points.
St. Johns needs Mark Jackson
Pitino is past his prime.
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The Knicks need Mark Jackson
I don’t think they would have to pay that much. I am pretty sure they just have to pay the pro-rated amount.
Whatever happened to that kid Chris Smith from Compton?
I saw him and he looked like he slugged like Bonds and choked up like Big Papi. Thought he could be something special
BTW, 13/16 today after 9/16 yesterday, much better.
I still remember watching Mitre last year during the locker room celebrations and he was partying with the latino players harder than anyone
He’ll be starting in GCL to A ball this season..kid is young, he’l be w/ Sosa, Deleon & Heathcott..only 1 will make it out alive.
On one hand I had Louisville in my sweet 16. On the other, I hate Louisville…
That’s exciting perspective on Montero, CB. I really like Cervelli too. Haven’t seen Romine yet. Having the 3 is a good problem to have. I won’t argue who goes where because no matter what, Yankees win. Win, win win.
Tricia, Just enjoy the whole College vibe, it’ll do your soul good….Sorority time all over again…..I love College sports, it keeps your soul young….I look forward to your impressions tomorrow……Mark Jackson would be a Big Time hit in Queens……Is there enough Alumni support to pay for him >>>>
Still have ‘Cuse winning the whole thing.
Pat M, what I meant in my earlier post is that sometimes people are so immediately bottom-line oriented that they don’t give a player a chance. I can’t see how anyone who bothered following Mitre since he’s been with the Yanks, I mean really following him, and paying attention to where he was in his recovery from TJ surgery, could fail to see what a really good pitcher he is. He’s got some solid, nasty stuff.
There are fans who are into immediate gratification and flip out per pitch, or flip out per AB. IMO that is totally crazy, especially in the game of baseball, where the season is indeed a marathon.
So when I made that analogy about only looking for the gold ring that is found at the end, I meant that if you can’t be patient and observant as a fan and learn to roll past the bad times that happen to all players, you really end up missing out on some spectacular baseball in between. And those are the moments that serve to carry you through the bumpy part of the ride that happens to every player at some point.
GO YOU MARVELOUS, TALENTED, AND WELL-PAID YANKEES!!!!!
Brandon – Are you buying the —- tease that the Knicks are selling you with the new guys?
trisha – root for Boston College
No.
Technically Gaudin’s contract isn’t guaranteed but it’s not easy to just cut him and not pay him.
There are definite requirements in the CBA over how a player can be cut and not paid.
So technically yes his contract isn’t guaranteed. But it’s not easy to just not pay him.
He would have to be dreadful and not performing close to expectation or to be insubordinate or something like that.
If Gaudin just got cut and the yankees tried not paying him the Union would likely file a grievance.
CB, if that’s the case with Gaudin, I don’t see him being moved. It’s between Aceves and Mitre. Like I said though, Cashman has options. He can start Logan and Melancon in AAA.
Mets could use another starter
Mitre for Ruben Tejada?
What?
Both Pac-10 teams advanced over Big East teams?
But how can that be???
:devil:
No :devil:????
That’s
If Cash can’t trade either by opening day, then 1 of Aceves or the #5 starter could start the season in Scranton.
Probably the #5, if they’re not going to be needed for any extended period of time.
Buy a little bit of time until a trade can be made.
Aceves not going to be traded. Andy and Javy not signed past ’10.
“Mets could use another starter
Mitre for Ruben Tejada?”
Mitre + Winn for Tejada
Aceves not going to be traded. Andy and Javy not signed past ‘10.
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That’s as good a reason as any to do all the things you suggest:
1)Start the 5th starter in AAA
2)Keep Aceves until a fair trade offer arrives
3)Keep Mitre until a fair trade offer arrives
I don’t see Aceves starting the year in AAA even though he has options. He’s polished.
Tricia, I wish you well as you navigate the rough and turmoil seas that is the LoHud this upcoming season…..Even keel is suppose
Awww, that was some nice 1993 footage they just showed on SC.
Past as prelude?
On another note, Rick Pitino makes me vomit purple. I see him as a self-serving, pompous, adulterous, jerk. My disdain for him goes back to when he was dishonest with PC about considering other jobs and then left them in the lurch. It doesn’t appear that his act changed much no matter where he ended up. JMO
If the yanks had known that they could have signed Park for $1.2M they would have likely non-tendered Gaudin. But there was no way they could have known that Park would pass on a 3.25M offer, not get a multi-year deal and watch his market collapse.
In retrospect it would have been nice to not pay Gaudin and to instead using gaudin’s money to upgrade LF from Randy Winn to a better player there. In turn they could have used either Mitre or Melancon to fill in that last spot on the staff.
That would have been a better use of dollars but again, that’s all in retrospect. When the decision to tender contracts had to be made it made sense to tender Gaudin. But once you do that you have obligations to the player.
The yanks will most likely field offers on Gaudin and Mitre and take the offer that provides the best combo of talent returned/ money dumped.
If they trade Gaudin it may be one of the few instances where the yankees are the team dumping payroll.
Dumping Gaudin costs us, what, $800K?
Hardly an exorbitant price to pay if they feel Mitre fits better.
Remember… before there was Tiger Woods, there was Rick Pitino
Speaking of better players than Winn in LF. How are Melky and Nady performing in ST so far?
What the hell, whoever gets the slip, at least they’ll be getting a World Series Ring….Something that was not even a consideration for Gaudin or Miltre a year ago right about now……Aceves stays….
Pat M.
I agree. Some GM is gonna have to put forth a really nice deal to pry Aceves from Cashman. He’s reliable, versatile, young and cheap. I really enjoy watching him pitch.
“Remember… before there was Tiger Woods, there was Rick Pitino:
The Nady deal isn’t working all that well for the Cubs. They don’t expect to be able to use him on a regular basis until the summer. He’s going to be a spot player until then.
Cabrera is hitting .324
Nady is hitting .294
Winn is hitting .167
The 14 member panel of great baseball minds that Bud Selig appointed to study what changes could best serve baseball debated many things that baseball could do-
“Tweaking the postseason schedule. Eliminating the link between the All-Star Game and the World Series. Adding replay for fair-or-foul calls down the lines.”
but the one suggestion that was immediately implemented- the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers were told to play quicker!
“There aren’t any threats about what will happen if they don’t comply. Will the prompts help?
We told those three the same thing last year,” said Bob Watson, MLB vice president of operations.”
I am very high on Ace. But I don’t think that makes me anyone super observant. How could you not be!
I embrace his acedom!!!
Bret the Hitman….Yeah I agree with everything you mentioned, besides he’s good and may get better….The back issue is of concern of sorts…..I saw him pitch vs. The Angels when he first came up in 08….I must tell you, he was impressive, very impressive….He’d be a no doubt starter on every club in the bigs minus a few…..
“Cabrera is hitting .324″
I do miss Da Melk.
Mitre has done nothing to lose his spot and Joe G. loves him.
Sergy will make the team.
I really feel Cabrera will pan out. That’s a tough trade to digest for me since Melky is home grown. I appreciate having Javy though and believe he can be a number 2.
It’s cool ppl, Randy Winn is here to push Gardy.
“Randy Winn is here to push Gardy.”
In what, Bingo?
Nick in SF…..Even though the Cal-Berkley Bears smacked Louisville around the court for 40 minutes, I suspect Duke will be tabbed as a 6.5 point favorite come Sunday….
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“Randy Winn is here to push Gardy.”
In what, Bingo?”
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See I tried, it doesn’t make sense does it ppl?
Pat M, based on the lines tomorrow for similar seed differentials, I think Duke will be favored by closer to 8.5 or 9 to open, and I think the public will push the line higher after that.
Careful, Brandon, it’s way too early to cross the line from Winn Skeptic to Winn Truther.
See if I’m Gardy I’m not motivated to be that much better.
I’d look at Randy Winn and go pffffftt….I’d look at Golson and eh, then I’d look at Colin Curtis and say thank god your not in the running.
Nick in SF…I hope your indeed right, can’t wait to make that call…….
Again, ST is usually of limited utility, but fairly or unfairly, for marginal guys it can matter.
With that in mind, barring a quick turnaround, Gaudin, Albaladejo, and Thames need to go.
“In retrospect it would have been nice to not pay Gaudin and to instead using gaudin’s money to upgrade LF from Randy Winn to a better player there. In turn they could have used either Mitre or Melancon to fill in that last spot on the staff.”
I said it at the time, but it can be overcome. The first step is to admit their mistakes, cut their losses, and move on.
Rich in NJ….Are you really ready to pull the plug on Thames and his power bat from the right side ???? Who fills that dire need from the right side ???? He’s a legit stick vs. lefties….I still say he and especially Randy Winn are going to pay big dividends before it’s all said and done….
“Cabrera is hitting .324
Nady is hitting .294
Winn is hitting .167″
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Pat M
As I said, I’m willing to give him the rest of ST, but if everything remains the same (he looks lost at the plate and he is an awful OF), then yes, I would let him go, and gamble that Hoffmann can be coached up by Long.
If they do keep Thames, and he contributes, I will be happy to admit that I was wrong. The same with Winn. I didn’t like the signing at all, but I want to be proved wrong.
btw, Someone suggested having Russo play the OF. They should be doing that starting yesterday.
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Rich in NJ..I like Russo’s stick…..Thames has looked suspect, and I campaigned all winter for him as the righthanded stick option….Winn will round into form
I’m not sure if this question has been ask but…
Are Mitre and Gaudin out of options?
you could make other arguments for whether Winn sucks or not but screaming his age really isn’t a very good one. Mariano’s 40, Andy will be 38 and Posada 39 before the end of the season, and those guys are gonna be way more important to the Yankees in 2010 than Randy Winn…
Winn aside, Mo and Po are extreme outliers for their age. That makes them incomparable.
Somewhat similarly, Pettitte is a high end talent. He has made adjustments to compensate for a loss of velocity. Most players who are marginal talents, hitters or pitchers, can’t do that.
“Are Mitre and Gaudin out of options?”
Yes.
TAMPA, Fla. – The balance of CC Sabathia’s first winter as a world champion was spent in New Jersey. True to his opening news conference pledge as a Yankee, the ace left-hander wasn’t just going to work in the Bronx.
He also would be coming home to Alpine, setting down roots and leaving California behind.
At this point, the opt-out clause in Sabathia’s contract might as well have been written in invisible ink.
“That’s something my agents were going to put in wherever I signed,” Sabathia said, after striking out eight Detroit Tigers in a breezy 5 1/3 innings Friday afternoon. “It was just one of those things where, if I didn’t like where I was headed, I could opt out and try to start over.”
Given his seamless adjustment into pinstriped life, and the dream of more trips up the Canyon of Heroes, it’s virtually certain that the 2011 season will pass without Sabathia’s clause being triggered.
“No, not at all,” said Sabathia, asked if he could envision such a scenario. The present is too full of rich possibilities. And on Friday at Steinbrenner Field, Sabathia’s performance seemed to draw the Yankees right up to the front door of opening day.
LOL
http://www.northjersey.com/spo....._guy_.html
Carl – was that in today’s paper? Very timely, very timely.
I see that it is in today’s paper. One would think that the author was very aware of recent fanbase obsessions – um, conversations. 
I miss Melky, too.
“Rivera, even at 40, remains the most feared closer in baseball. Chamberlain was waiting by the door of the clubhouse to be taken to an autograph session when Rivera walked by. Chamberlain, already in a chatty mood, suddenly fancied himself as Rivera’s successor and started bugging Rivera about retiring.
“You’ve got to pass the torch, four-two,” Chamberlain said, using common baseball parlance for someone’s uniform number.
By then, Rivera was nearing his locker on the far side of the clubhouse. He turned to Chamberlain, smiled and said paternally, “Your time will come.”
Chamberlain answered back, “You might be 50! I might be done by then.” Rivera, ignoring the last part, responded, “Then it’ll still come,” with an equally big smile. That did not make Chamberlain feel any better. “He might pitch until he’s 106,” he said.”
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....-can-wait/
“I miss Melky, too.”
Me too. The Vazquez trade was a good one from a baseball perspective but I enjoyed the personality Melky brought to the team.
Like I said last night, the opt out is much ado about nothing.
Interesting banter from Joba. Perhaps a window into decisionmaking?
They are holding a staff meeting re: the fifth starter tomorrow.
Wouldn’t shock me if the list of candidates was pared down following the meeting.
have defended Mitre, dating back to last season.
he is a ground ball pitcher, and he misses bats. An ideal combination for NYS.
whichever team he is on, he will do well this season.
he will have a better year and career then Ian Kennedy.
“Interesting banter from Joba. Perhaps a window into decisionmaking?”
At least a small glimpse into mindset was my thought and reason for posting it. That and it was just so what I would expect from Mo.
Pat,
We do know Mo wants him in the bullpen.
Perhaps he is counseling Joba in this process.
You never know.
You can do a LOT worse in life than having a man like Mo in your corner.
If you’re saying that the prospect of jogging in from the Yankee bullpen, his own hand picked rock-metal song blasting while 50,000+ people scream their heads off excites Joba?
Well, I emphatically agree.