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First bump in the road for Aceves

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 20, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Yankees Astros Spring Baseball

Alfredo Aceves rarely has a whole lot to say. Good or bad, he’s a man of few words, and today he needed only a few words to sum up his first rocky outing of the spring.

“I just missed pitches,” he said.

Although Aceves went through the order fairly easily the first three innings, there were several hard-hit balls, and manager Joe Girardi said he could tell from the beginning that Aceves didn’t have his best stuff.

I didn’t think he was as sharp as he’s been,” Girardi said. “But he knows how to change speeds and knows how to expand the zone.”

That was enough for a while, but the Astros caught up to Aceves with two runs in the fourth and three runs in the fifth (plus a fourth run charged to Mark Melancon). Aceves saw his spring ERA reach 3.77, which is still a fine number, but it’s now middle-of-the-pack among fifth-starter candidates. Phil Hughes has the lowest at 2.08, and if Hughes was in fact the favorite heading into camp, the race might be his to lose. Girardi, though, said he still doesn’t have a fifth starter decided in his mind.

“We could talk for hours and we might still not come out and have the decision,” he said. “But obviously we’re getting to the point where we’re going to have to make one in the next week or so.”

The picture is from the AP.

 
 

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48 Responses to “First bump in the road for Aceves”

  1. m March 20th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    He’ll have a #5 starter in mind by Tuesday.

  2. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Phil or Joba (actually both) need to start, so Aceves’s laudable ST has really only been a diversion from that fact. Ace will help in the pen.

  3. blake March 20th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Maybe I’m crazy, but I find it incredibly hard to believe they don’t already have a tentative 5th starter decision made, despite what they say.

    If they don’t then they are saying that their decision has all come down to 1 or 2 final ST starts. Maybe thats the case but I seriously doubt it, theres too much variation in quality of hitters they will face and too small a sample size to make a decision based totally on that.

  4. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    “We could talk for hours and we might still not come out and have the decision,” he said.

    In light of the facts, if this assertion is actually true, they need to be better at time management.

  5. Rick March 20th, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    If Thames can’t hit AA and AAA pitchers now, then he won’t just suddenly turn it around when the bell rings.
    Cut him now before he takes more at bats away from a deserving player.
    Have Kevin Russo play every game the rest of the month splitting time between SS and a corner OF position.

  6. Pat M. March 20th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    Blake, I still believe that the 5th starter was decided well before camp opened….In fact when they acquired Vasquez it was clear that Joba was headed to the pen…..Only thing that would derail Hughes was either an injury or a total failure this spring, like Wang last March…..

  7. Nick in SF in Larkspur March 20th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Can Murray St. do this???

  8. Pat M. March 20th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Nick in SF….I need Butler to win by 5….Let Ohio play the role of Cinderella

  9. Nick in SF in Larkspur March 20th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    You’ve got a good chance if Murray misses this shot, then fouls… etc.

  10. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    2010 Census Completed!

    I have been counted!!!

  11. m March 20th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Only an accountant would be happy with being counted.

  12. Pat M. March 20th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Well this might be a first for me…I lost on the same team twice in as many games……BUTLER…..Next up, Washington Huskies ( + 2 ), and them Wake Forest ( + 9.5 )…

  13. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Erica

    “I have been counted!!!”

    You have more faith in the US mail than I do.

  14. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    m
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    Only an accountant would be happy with being counted.

    *******************

    I remember learning about the census for the first time in 1990 when I was in the third grade. I thought it was the coolest idea ever.

    This is my first one completed!!!!

  15. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm more AWESOME than RAW w/ no Miz) March 20th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    And I finished my Income Tax form :)

    Now waiting for the Yankees to trade Randy Winn.

  16. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    2010 Census Completed!

    I have been counted!!!

    ————————————————————

    Were you counted with the girls? A CPA? A Yankee fan? All around mischief maker? A Sesame Street Groupie?

  17. randy l. March 20th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    “Forget baseball. That’s the least of his problems right now. And we should not be so crass and cynical to consider this poor kid only in the context of our own leisure time entertainment.”

    joe in long island-

    well said.

  18. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    GreenBeret7
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    Erica – always OPPC
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    2010 Census Completed!

    I have been counted!!!

    ————————————————————

    Were you counted with the girls? A CPA? A Yankee fan? All around mischief maker? A Sesame Street Groupie?

    ********************

    Ummm- all of the above!!!!!!! :grin:

    Okay, really I was person number 1 (of 1) at my residence!

  19. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Brandon Awesome (B/c I’m more AWESOME than RAW w/ no Miz)
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    And I finished my Income Tax form

    ********************

    Mine was done the first week of February-

    If it wasn’t for the last minuters of the world, life would be so much easier

  20. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    You’re naive Erica. That census crap means nothing.

  21. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    UD-

    Maybe. But I like it :grin:

  22. pat March 20th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    “1990 when I was in the third grade”

    First Villanova made me sad and now Erica made me feel old. Time for a Margarita.

  23. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm more AWESOME than RAW w/ no Miz) March 20th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Erica I meant Census. Whoops my bad :D

  24. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    March 20th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
    GreenBeret7
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    Erica – always OPPC
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    2010 Census Completed!

    I have been counted!!!

    ————————————————————

    Were you counted with the girls? A CPA? A Yankee fan? All around mischief maker? A Sesame Street Groupie?

    ********************

    Ummm- all of the above!!!!!!!

    Okay, really I was person number 1 (of 1) at my residence!

    ————————————————————

    It makes you wonder how many people Sybil was counted as? Was she counted as one person or 16?

  25. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    GB7-

    Be careful.

    This week at work one of the partners called me “Trouble with a Capital T”. I told himt o be careful cause I already did the work he wanted me to do. So he bought me lunch.

    So basically, if you call me trouble, you must pay for a meal :-)

  26. m March 20th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Well, when you’re 1 of # people in your house. And you’re the one filling out the form, it’s not so fun.

  27. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    So you like filling out forms that are garbage? Can you be my secretary then?

  28. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Looks like UD/Jerkface have much in common with Sybil. At least he’s consistant in choosing appropriate names for his personalities.

  29. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    UD-

    Sure. But when I am at work, my billing rate to clients is $250 an hour

  30. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
    GB7-

    Be careful.

    This week at work one of the partners called me “Trouble with a Capital T”. I told himt o be careful cause I already did the work he wanted me to do. So he bought me lunch.

    So basically, if you call me trouble, you must pay for a meal

    ————————————————————

    If that’s the case, Erica, and every time somebody called you trouble and had to buy you dinner, you’d weigh 600 pounds.

  31. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    GreenBeret7
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    If that’s the case, Erica, and every time somebody called you trouble and had to buy you dinner, you’d weigh 600 pounds.

    ******************

    Unfortunately, this is true. Sigh………

  32. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    That’s fine as long as you’re attractive.

    GreenBeret, I hope you’ve served.

  33. blake March 20th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Pat M,
    I agree with you, I think they had someone in mind (probably Hughes) before camp even started.

  34. Pat M. March 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Gentlemen Beware of the sweet Ms. Erica, the whole Pippy Long stocking Image is a myth…..She’s a smack down artist

  35. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    “You’re naive Erica. That census crap means nothing.”

    This is demonstrably false. The data is used to apportion funding for numerous programs.

  36. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

    Erica – always OPPC
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    GreenBeret7
    March 20th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    If that’s the case, Erica, and every time somebody called you trouble and had to buy you dinner, you’d weigh 600 pounds.

    ******************

    Unfortunately, this is true. Sigh………

    ————————————————————

    I’ve always had a fondness for cute little troublemakers, Erica. No sense in my changing now.

  37. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Ok Rich in NJ, you can believe that.

  38. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    I do, because I live in a world where facts matter and are testable.

  39. m March 20th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    I believe the census is used for such funding.

    BUT, seeing how parties stuff election ballots, and how some of the stimulus plan moneys were allocated to bogus districts I can see how there is plenty room for abuse.

  40. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Pat M.
    March 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    Gentlemen Beware of the sweet Ms. Erica, the whole Pippy Long stocking Image is a myth…..She’s a smack down artist

    *************

    I cannot deny this either :grin:

  41. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Please show me the facts where it matters.

  42. Erica - always OPPC March 20th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    New thread :arrow:

  43. GreenBeret7 March 20th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    m
    March 20th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
    I believe the census is used for such funding.

    BUT, seeing how parties stuff election ballots, and how some of the stimulus plan moneys were allocated to bogus districts I can see how there is plenty room for abuse.

    ————————————————————

    What’s really sad is that they have spent over $10 mil of that money just putting up signs to announce that the work being done is stimulus money.

  44. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    By virtually every estimate made by serious people, the stimulus bill, along with the Fed’s monetary expansion policy, is the reason we avoided another Great Depression.

    Where there abuses and inefficiencies? Probably, but if we had undertaken a spending freeze, as some advocated, at a time when the consumer wasn’t spending and business wasn’t investing, the economy would have fallen off the cliff.

    In fact, one of the biggest threats to the economy going forward is in the second half of the year when the stimulus money will be depleted.

  45. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    I still don’t see any facts that the census matters.

  46. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Also, the problem with the economy at the time was that banks weren’t lending.Pretty simple.

  47. Rich in NJ March 20th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Google isn’t working for you?

    http://www.google.com/search?s.....te+funding

    That’s an effect not a cause.

  48. Uncle Dick March 20th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    LOL. That proved a lot.

    http://www.google.com/search?h.....38;gs_rfai=

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