Damon returns to face his old teammates
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 21, 2010 
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Johnny Damon is in the Tigers lineup for this afternoon’s game at George M. Steinbrenner Field. He’s playing left field and batting second. Damon didn’t make Detroit’s previous trip to Tampa.
Of course, the weather will have to cooperate for Damon to actually play against his old teammates.
Right now, the tarp is on the field and the forecast says there’s a 60 percent chance of rain at first pitch. There’s an 80 percent chance of rain by 3 p.m.
• Austin Jackson is not in the Tigers lineup, but he is on the travel roster, so we could see him in the later innings. Phil Coke is also scheduled to pitch for Detroit.
• Jason Hirsh and Dustin Moseley have been reassigned to the minor league complex. My guess is that the entire Triple-A rotation is now across the street: Hirsh, Moseley, Zach McAllister, Ivan Nova and Romulo Sanchez.
• Sergio Mitre is tied for fifth in the Grapefruit League in innings pitched (14) ad tied for sixth in strikeouts (also 14). Alfredo Aceves is tied for second in the league with 14.1 innings.
• According to the game notes, Andy Pettitte’s minor league start on Monday will be an intrasquad game: Lower-level minor leaguers vs. upper-level minor leaguers.
• Scheduled to pitch for the Yankees: A.J. Burnett, Mariano Rivera and Phil Hughes.
• Also available to pitch for the Yankees: Zack Segovia, Amaury Sanit and Josh Schmidt (up from the minor league complex).
• Scheduled to play off the bench: C Francisco Cervelli, 1B Juan Miranda, 2B Ramiro Pena, SS Reegie Corona, 3B Brandon Laird, LF Jon Weber, CF Greg Golson, RF David Winfree, DH Austin Romine.
• Cervelli will start the game at DH, then move to catcher.
• Detroit’s scheduled pitchers: RHP Justin Verlander, RHP Joel Zumaya, RHP Jose Valverde, LHP Phil Dumatrait, LHP Phil Coke and RHP Josh Rainwater.
• Detroit’s lineup:
Brandon Inge 3B
Johnny Damon LF
Magglio Ordonez RF
Miguel Cabrera 1B
Carlos Guillen DH
Don Kelly CF
Gerald Laird C
Scott Sizemore 2B
Adam Everett SS
RHP Justin Verlander
Thanks to the AP for the picture.
Chad, we discussed this yesterday. If AJ pitches 4 or 5 innings and Mo pitches 1, then at best Phil pitches 3 innings (and that’s only if the Yankees are losing going into the 9th inning). I don’t get what Joe is doing; Joba can go 5 or 6 innings tomorrow, but Phil is going to be limited in the amount of innings he can throw (plus, it will be against the scrubs of the Tigers lineup). I don’t get how Phil is supposed to stretch out when it’s very possible he pitches fewer innings than last time. Can you ask Joe why he set his rotation like this?
As expected, Tommy John surgery for Joe Nathan.
Hmm, too bad for Nathan – that’s a shame. He’s a classy guy and a very good pitcher…..
Interview with Kevin Towers – interesting stuff. I didn’t even know he had played professional ball.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....new_y.html
I was hoping we would have more dissertations on the following topics:
1. Why Damon signed with Detroit?
2. What happens when CC ops out in two years?
3. How the surgery will affect Westmoreland?
It is a shame about Joe Nathan needing TJ surgery. Betsy’s right, he does seem to be a good guy, too few like him. From what I’ve seen with other pitchers who have had it, recovery time, till full arm strength, is 18 months – two full years. Just look at Mitre for the latest example.
As a baseball fan, I hope he can make it back.
weird seeing damons name in the detroit lineup
i think johnson will do a great job with us but i will miss damon
nj is underated
i think nj will bat .280/410 obp
15 hr/70 rbi
how about ajax
last i checked 5-9 , 2 triples & a hr
chad,nice article on jon weber.
the average fan has no idea how hard it is on these kind of players and on their families.
i once threw BP almost every day two winters in a row( ’97-”98) to a player named gregg blosser. greg was the the red sox #1 draft pick in 1989. he first came up to the red sox at age 22. he played his last major league game at age 23.
when i threw to him, he was with the devil rays at durham at age 26-27. he hit 49 home runs in two years for them. he had 25 hr at triple a with a .374 OBP and .891 OPS in ’97.
http://www.baseball-reference......osse001gre
this was the devil rays when they were bad. did they call him up ? even at the end of the year? he was a center fielder too.
nope. here’s where it gets tough for the jon webers and greg blossers of the baseball world. even when they deserve to be given a MLB shot, they don’t necessarily get it. it’s not like the PGA tour where there is a qualifying school where they can earn their way up.
these deserving knocking- at -the- door players must have a MLB GM decide to bring them up. these players fates depend on a judgement call from someone who has never gone through what they have gone through .
forget all the years actually playing . year in and year out from november through the beginning of spring training you will ,if you get up early enough, see these kind of players working out either at gyms or on high school fields hitting balls and putting in time that few people have the discipline for.
it’s often a slow, boring, monotonous process with only a dream of making it. no guarantees. things happen like greg’s younger brother doug (3rd round pick royals) dying in ’98 in a car accident at that time with the rays .
when you know one of these players and see how hard they are working and how good they are but don’t get a shot or a call up, you realize the unfairness and arbitrariness of the system.
greg blosser went to japan for a year after durham and cashed in a bit, but was still playing in the minors in independent ball at age 37.
at least he gets the major league players association health insurance plan for life for him and his family and maybe a small pension at some point because he got some MLB games in early in his career.
brian cashman or some other gm should call up jon weber for even one day , just so he can get that mlb health insurance plan for his family for life. weber deserves at least that. it’s not like the yankees or any one team will be paying it.
with all the money in the game, i think these kind of guys are a special category, have paid their dues, and should get more than they get in the end.
the thing nathan has going for him is he is in the pen
not sure if he has 1-2 years left to get it back but i think he makes a go of it
something about going out on ones own terms
randy l.
very nice
way to go
Some very nice reading – 1)Chad’s article on Jon Weber, 2)the Carig article on Kevin Towers, and 3)randy’s comment on career minor leaguers (see above).
The thing that stands out is the love of the game that some guys have, whether it’s the players, or the scouts (oldtime bird dogs). To put up with these guys do….
Once I started reading and learning about career minor league ballplayers, and how hard they work and for how little, it made me understand a guy like Scott Boras and Marvin Miller a bit more.
Miller really does belong in the HOF. Some baseball people need a bit more objectivity.
“at least he gets the major league players association health insurance plan for life for him and his family and maybe a small pension at some point because he got some MLB games in early in his career.”
Is this true?
I recall reading a story last year, I believe it was about Sal Fasano, about how he was desperately looking to get a call up because his son was sick or needed an operation or something serious and he was trying to get back on the MLB health plan.
Pat M., regarding your post of March 21st, 2010 at 2:37 am.
Of course most of the things you say about the Yankees 2009 is true. But a baseball season is a war of attrition. Almost all teams (beside the 1998 Yankees) go through trials and tribulation over the course of 6 months and 162 games.
Speaking only for myself, but I’m not “transfixed” by the fact they won so easily. But I think 2009 is a tribute to some good luck and a LOT of superior talent.
what 2009 taught me or reminded me is it does not matter how good your offense is
you have to have great pitching first
the phillies if they kept lee would be a very similar team
Is this game on TV today?
I agree and then I disagree with Betsy. I agree because if Hughes is in competition for that 5th spot, then shouldn’t he be starting the game to prove himself. Also, by starting he wouldn’t be seeing the scrubs as you had mentioned. However, his poor performance so far this spring has led me to believe that his spot for the 5th starting position is pretty much ruled out. This is where I disagree with you Betsy. Joe would know what he is doing especially given the fact he won us a World Series last year. Hughes will probably see the bullpen this year and only be added to the starting rotation temporarily if someone becomes injured. Let’s face it, Aceves is strong and has nasty stuff which should solidfy his spot as the 5th starter. Hughes is a few years away from a starting job and proved he could provide strong middle relief out of the bullpen, as he did last season.
Randy-
Sounds almost like “starving artist’s” syndrome.
I like your take.
It shows your compassion.
Today’s game is on YES.
1. Why Damon signed with Detroit?
2. What happens when CC ops out in two years?
3. How the surgery will affect Westmoreland?
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simple answers from me.
1. Tigers are the last option of Damon’s. Tigers need a veteran hitter to hit top 2 in the lineup.
2. Yankees have thousands of ammo in the minor system as they have a whopping 4 promising catchers with potential power. It will be easy to trade for some phenom like Velerander, Johnson, Hernandez or even Strasburg. Where will CC land is too early to know because CC may want to settle down in California and have a family there or economy could or could not be better in two years.
3. No one will know what will happen to Westmoreland until he starts to run. If he is on 40 man roster then Red Sox can put him on 60 day DL but his option will be running out before he ever plays baseball. I give him 3 years to be ready to play baseball.
Yea unfortunate for Nathan. Obviously I’m not a twins fan but I have a lot of respect for how they run their organization and this is a bad break for them. Nathan is doing the smart thing by going ahead and doing the surgery rather than chance it and potentially miss even more time.
Nathan is out of season but his contract will expire after 2011 season. damn.
I have a solution for Twins and Yankees.
Hughes, Chamberlain and Montero for Mauer. That way Chamberlain becomes a full time closer for cheap and Montero begins his career with Twins. Sorry, I am still hangover on Mauer thing.
As Joe pointed out.
The full recovery time for Nathan will be a bout 2 years.He would be about 37.
The odds that he continues to be a factor going forward are pretty slim.
I always liked the guy.
tough break at this stage of his career.
Excellent closer.
just out of curiosity, Are minor games televised on YES? I dont have YES channel so I may want YES if they air Scranton, Trenton, Tampa and Charleston games. thank you.
No way I’m trading 3 young, cheap players with big upsides to pay Mauer 200 million bucks.
Time to some more Splorin’.
I’ll check in later.
Enjoy the game.
Go Hughes !
No way I’m trading 3 young, cheap players with big upsides to pay Mauer 200 million bucks.
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well, it is not your money. Yanks have money.
I don’t see why Nathan can’t recover and still be an excellent relief pitcher at 37.
Hughes has had a poor spring? News to me and anybody else who has seen him pitch this spring.
Mauer needs to say a Twin!
I meant “Stay” not “Say.
I read somewhere. It may be old news but Mitre or Gaudin will be traded by beginning of the regular season.
MTU,
You’re right, Nathan probably will be back sometime next year but likely won’t be back to full strenghth until 2012. If the Twins can find a younger, cheaper closer in the meantime this may be a blessing in disguise for them. Stinks for Nathan though.
The Yankees also have brains besides money.
That trade would never take place.
Mauer needs to stay a Twin!
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He should be. It is not easy when the city is in deep debt. New stadium and new bridge.
Ledger_Yankees Northwestern football coach Pat Fitzgerald in the house. Apparently, Girardi texts him before every game.
8 minutes ago
yes the Yankees have money but thankfully they are spending it more efficiently these days.
The Yankees also have brains besides money.
That trade would never take place.
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Yeah,, not a chance but Cashman will trade Hughes or Chamberlain when their time is running out if they do not pan out as a Yankee.
Any one can answer my question about YES airing minor games?
Their time is running out? Not according to the Yankees. Maybe according to you. Big difference.
Actually, this year is Hughes’ last option.
bronx jeers-
i think the player has to be retired and the pension to kick in at age 45 or so for the health insurance to be there.
it would still be very nice for a player like weber to qualify. i really think that even one day of mlb service qualifies for that.
maybe sj44 knows or cb.
HolyYankee!
YES does not televise minor leagues with any regularity. They might play one or two throughout the season, but even that is rare. I would not bother paying for a subscription if that’s mainly what you’re looking for.
Manunited2512
ace is not going to be the 5th starter
joba or hughes
nobody else
at some point you have to develope pitchers so hughes in the pen sets him back
he will be 25 yrs old next year with innings limits if he is in the pen this year
imo the last start for hughes & joba will decide it
i can see joba in the pen taking over for mo when mo retires & hughes as the 5th starter
this way you get the best of both worlds
i think the last start for hughes & joba girrardi will let them go as long as they can
no way you can put both hughes & joba’s development on hold for the sake of ace starting
No minor league games on YES for 3-4 years now.
RS… thank you very much. That sucks.
SJ,
Last night, some were taking the fact that Joba is starting tommorow while Hughes is relieving today as evidence that this is Joba’s job to lose. I don’t really see it that way. Yours thoughts?
3-4 years? Not even Staten Island games? oh lord!
It does not matter when Yankees put who in a game. It is all about pitching result.
His last option means he will stay on the 25 man roster. It doesn’t mean it’s his last chance with the Yankees.
It would be nice if we had one day of gibberish free posting in here.
Randy,
My understanding is, one day on the 25 man roster=free medical and dental for life. I don’t know if that’s been modified or changed at all.
I remember a few years ago Andy Phillips got called up during his wife’s diificult pregnancy and that qualified him into the program.
I can see Nathan coming back from the Tommy John surgery. Billy Wagner is back after TJ surgery and I believe he is 37.
Blake,
I don’t think it means anything. I think it’s just how they set the schedule because they don’t want to put AJ in the middle of a game.
Hughes stays with Yankees as what? a starter or a reliever.
Yankees have plenty of relievers but not starters. If Hughes struggles this year then his chance with Yankees as a starter will be slim.
Good thing he hasn’t struggled yet.
Are we gonna have a game to watch today? The Weather Channel website sure doesn’t think so……
what’s a “minor game”?
You’re not some sort of perv, are you?
j/k
Anyone think they are going to keep Hoffman around? Or let him be offered back to the Dodgers?
Any chance Webber or Curtis get a shot at 4th/5th outfielder? Both doing better than Thames and Winn, thought I know they both have experience to sit on.
Good morning!
Last night was very successful. Thanks for asking!
-Too bad about Nathan.
-Hughes has had a bad spring?!
-Even if the #5 starter became a #2 in actuality, there’s zero chance of that pitcher leapfrogging 3 other pitchers. In reality or fantasy.
-Joba may very well have 4 plus pitches, if he can’t spot them, then so what?
-Thank goodness Nick Johnson’s having a nice spring. Can you imagine if he wasn’t? There’d be so many cries for the Yankees letting Damon go.
from Wiki:
Minor-league baseball and college sports
Since the network’s debut, YES has aired select cablecasts of the Yankees’ minor league teams, primarily the Class-A (short season) Staten Island Yankees of the New York-Penn League. Those games are produced by YES, with the same graphics and announcers as the big league Yankees.
From 2002 to 2006, YES also showed games of the Yankees’ former Class-AAA team, the Columbus Clippers of the International League. Those games were locally produced in Columbus, Ohio. After the 2006 season, the Yankees ended their affiliation with the Clippers, and are now affiliated with the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees (formerly Red Barons). No SWB Yankee games have aired on YES, although the team has local coverage in its own market.
In 2003, YES showed one game of the Class-AA Trenton Thunder, when Yankees star Derek Jeter was on a rehab assignment.
YES also shows Ivy League college sports, Big 12 conference basketball through ESPN Plus, and rebroadcasts of Notre Dame football games. It also carries coaches’ shows for Notre Dame and Penn State.
On his show last week, Kay mocked Phil Coke for being fat. No, seriously.
Thank goodness Nick Johnson’s having a nice spring. Can you imagine if he wasn’t? There’d be so many cries for the Yankees letting Damon go.
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Mel,
Johnson still has a 162 game season to get through
“My understanding is, one day on the 25 man roster=free medical and dental for life. I don’t know if that’s been modified or changed at all.”
sj44-
thanks, that was my understanding too, though obviously like with the fasano situation last year, there must be some fine print there.
Yes, there’s a chance they keep Hoffman.
And Phil Coke is fat. Didn’t they used to fine players who showed up more than their target weight?
But that’s really low of Kay. If indeed he used the word “fat”.
Anyone think they are going to keep Hoffman around? Or let him be offered back to the Dodgers?
Any chance Webber or Curtis get a shot at 4th/5th outfielder? Both doing better than Thames and Winn, thought I know they both have experience to sit on.
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Curtis is the best of all but Golston should be the winner since he is on 40 man roster. I am going to keep Hoffmann because of his defense is superior to Webber and Thames.
imo it is going to be very hard for girrardi to take joba out of the 5th spot after building his innings in 09 unless he is the future closer or he just gets hithard throughout
i think they wan’t to give joba 1 more year & slide hughes into the rotation next year
joba goes to the pen he doesn’t come out again
Fran,
At least there’s been a stay of execution. And at least NJ has a chance before being run out of town!
m
I can’t remember the exact words because, you know, it’s Kay and he’s not worth my full attention, but:
He said something like Phil Coke looks like he ate Phil Coke.
Ohta faction.. nice finding.
According to this, YES should air Scranton games because of Jesus Montero. umm. Nah… I guess I stick with stupid internet sources.
I don’t get it. If it was Joba’s job because he has a leg up on innings, then they shouldn’t have had this big show, and it was a big show, of a competition.
Not buying it. IMO, Joba’s high maintenance as a starter.
“My understanding is, one day on the 25 man roster=free medical and dental for life. I don’t know if that’s been modified or changed at all.”
If that’s for one’s entire family, given the obscene rate of health care inflation (far outrunning the CPI), that has to be an incredibly expensive proposition, even for a cash cow like MLB.
Hughes likely gets a maximum of 3 innings heading into the final week of spring training?
Pettitte gets a intra-squad minor league game the next day?
Chamberlain is given the major league start the same day?
Yeah, those facts don’t mean anything…
… in bizarro world.
Kidding, but c’mon, you gotta really WANT to not read ANYthing into that.
“then they shouldn’t have had this big show”
I have no idea what was in the Yankees’ mind with regard to Joba, but they did have a big show in terms of Ace, Gaudin, Mitre, because I don’t think there was any real chance any one of them was going to be the 5th starter.
“If it was Joba’s job because he has a leg up on innings,”
His job TO LOSE.
That makes all the contextual difference in the world.
I have never liked the idea of a competition for the 5th spot. It seems unfair to determine that one’s fate for the whole year is going to be tied up in a few ST starts.
m
i agree but a team always gives a pitcher with joba’s talent a chance at starting first because starting pitchers are just so hard to find & more important
joba’s innings buildup have to be a consideration even if a small one
imo joba is the 5th starter because we just don’t know if he can be an ace & we have to find out
all teams do this with pitchers
greinke,king felix,liriano,etc…
there is a reason all these pitchers don’t get thrown in the pen even as closers
the problem with us is we have 2 great prospects at the same time
imo it is going to be very hard for girrardi to take joba out of the 5th spot after building his innings in 09 unless he is the future closer or he just gets hithard throughout
i think they wan’t to give joba 1 more year & slide hughes into the rotation next year
joba goes to the pen he doesn’t come out again
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Joba lacks of hitting 94-96 for consistency as a starter. With that repertoire he has, it may be a good chance that he is in bullpen for long time. Girardi would be stupid if he did not give Hughes the 5th starter job.
Hughes’ last option this year will be critical for Yankees’ plan with Hughes as a starter. Since Vazquez and Pettitte will become FA after this season, Yankees need to know whether or not Hughes will become 3rd starter next season.
Hughes in bullpen is big NO NO for Yankees. Chamberlain is okay.
Personally, I think the Yankees have seen what they needed to see out of Hughes.
Greinke? Lincecum? Felix?
How about Joba become the old Joba first?
Girardi specifically said the decision was NOT going to be made by ST games alone.
SJ, how is Phil going to have sufficient innings if he’s caddying a starter? The only thing that helps him is that AJ can’t go 6 today – he hasn’t even gotten through 3 innings yet. Still, it’s set up for Phil to get fewer innings than Joba. I also hope the Yankees won’t hold it against Phil that he’s facing cream puffs. If he struggles, then it’s bad; if he pitches well, it’s because it’s against young kids. I don’t think that’s the case, but fans will be more impressed with Joba pitching well than Phil. These kids are not competing on a level playing field, so I have no idea how the Yankees expect to come up with the “right” decision.
Bru, the one thing I agree with you is that Phil as set up man will be set back as a starter in 2011. I could make the argument for Joba as well. The Yankees really need to be creative with either kid in the pen, but I’m not sure the Yankees agree with this.
“Joba lacks of hitting 94-96 for consistency as a starter.”
Given your verb tense I’m not sure exactly what you are trying to say, but Joba’s fastball was averaging 95 mph in 2008 pre-injury, so it could return, but even if it doesn’t return this season, very few starters throw that hard anyway, so the failure to throw that hard shouldn’t be a per se disqualifer.
So to say that:
“Girardi would be stupid if he did not give Hughes the 5th starter job.”
is beyond absurd based on your flawed logic.
I have never liked the idea of a competition for the 5th spot. It seems unfair to determine that one’s fate for the whole year is going to be tied up in a few ST starts.
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Rays did with Hammel and Niemann last year. Yes, it is different because both are out of options that time. Niemann won the job and Rays traded Hammel to Rockies. Niemann has pitched well so far.
The problem with Yankees is media and fans keep yapping about 5th starter as a part of dynasty.
Oops, reread that. You weren’t comparing Joba to those pitchers.
SJ, have you ever seen a rotation go 9 deep like this? With two candidates of Phil & Joba’s caliber fighting for the #5 slot?
I haven’t, so neither Phil nor Joba is allowed to toil relatively spotlight-free like Lincecum, Felix, or Liriano.
Stucky, I agree – Phil won’t have his innings built up. I do not see how anyone can argue that he will – it’s not possible. I never believed the mediots anyway that said that Phil had an inside track. IMO, Phil will always play second fiddle to Joba while he’s here.
“I have never liked the idea of a competition for the 5th spot. It seems unfair to determine that one’s fate for the whole year is going to be tied up in a few ST starts.”
Exactly, that’s why it probably never was.
When it’s someone’s job to lose, the “competition” means the Yankees just want to see what they need to see from the pitcher they have penciled in.
If they don’t see it, then they consider another candidate, or another candidate overwhelms them.
If they see what they want to see, and they aren’t overwhelmed by someone else, they follow the plan.
Bru, Phil hardly lacks for talent; lol he doesn’t deserve the chance to show what he can do?
rich in NJ.
Is it 2008? My verb is right.
Hughes has been pitching around 91-94 in a whole of his career in minor and major league as a starter. He knows how to pitch with this repertoire. Chamberlain had been throwing power stuff prior to injury in Arlington. He has struggled to pitch anything slower than usual.
My logic is not flawed as you tried to pin down on me.
Betsy,
You are overthinking it. If a guy is stretched out, it doesn’t matter when he pitches in the Spring.
Joba pitched against the Phillies reserves last week.
Hughes can go 4 now, which is on schedule at this point in the Spring.
They aren’t favoring one over the other. They are getting both ready for the season.
It doesn’t matter how many innings Phil pitches. If he wins the job, he’ll pitch more. If Joba wins the job, then Phil will pitch less.
That’s why they want to make the decision sooner than later. Different prep for starters & relievers.
“I never believed the mediots anyway that said that Phil had an inside track. IMO, Phil will always play second fiddle to Joba while he’s here.”
Agree with the first, disagree with the second.
Not about second fiddle. Hughes likely had a greater impact on the Yanks ability to coast into the play-offs last year. I don’t think it’s about favor.
Again, you have to separate YOUR feelings about starting vs relieving and a major league team’s.
“lacks of hitting ”
Really?
Lincecum FB velo:
2008: 94.0
2009: 92.4
Yet he was still effective. Velo alone is not dispositive.
MTU(aka GBURL)
March 21st, 2010 at 11:19 am
As Joe pointed out.
The full recovery time for Nathan will be a bout 2 years.He would be about 37.
The odds that he continues to be a factor going forward are pretty slim.
I always liked the guy.
tough break at this stage of his career.
Excellent closer.
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There’s no reason that Nathan can’t return to his former status. Wagner has come back from the same thing and he’s two years older.
Betsy/ SJ44.
You forgot… Hughes and Chamberlain did pitch 4 innings but last inning for each was not official.
SJ, so if he goes 3 today, it won’t matter because his innings have been built up? I guess they could also have him throw on the side. Me overthinking ? That would be a first, lol. You’re probably right, though.
Stuckey, I’m not even suggesting that the Yankees wanted Joba to “win” the 5th spot. I’m just suggesting that I don’t think the Yankees had anyone in mind for this slot – I don’t believe they want Phil to win it or Joba to win it. I don’t think they care one way or the other.
I’m not sure about the free medical and dental for life – as I read a story on Sal Fasano being wiped out because of medical issues and he’s been trying to get back on any major league club to get those things worked out (unsuccessfully).
Story link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Anyone know what happened to Josh Thompson? Is he still with LoHud?
they’re not getting this game in, looks very ugly out
“Hughes can go 4 now, which is on schedule at this point in the Spring.”
Assuming Burnett maxes out at 4. Didn’t Sabathia go 5 plus and Aceves 4 plus.
Assuming they only bring in Rivera to start an inning, Burnett will have to leave strictly after 4 (regardless of pitch count) for Hughes to get 4.
Could happen, sure. But if Burnett is even partially effective, seems unlikely.
Rich in NJ.
Are you trying to tell me that Chamberlain and Lincecum are the same one?
Chamberlain is freaking stubborn. He keep pitching like he once was except he pitches slower now.
If they don’t get the game in, maybe Joba starts tomorrow, and Phil finishes?
Holy, Phil did pitch 4 innings – only Joba pitched that extra frame that doesn’t count.
Stuckey, I thought we agreed that a good starter will be more valuable to a team than a good set-up man? I probably shouldn’t have made that last statement as I really do think the Yankees like Phil…….I’d like to retract that statement.
“I’m not sure about the free medical and dental for life”
It just seems to be too expensive, sadly, although no one should go broke for lack of health insurance.
new post…
M, if I’m the Yankees, I push AJ to tomorrow. He’s already had one rain out and you saw what throwing to Jorge without facing any hitters did for him last out – he was way too strong and wild. AJ has had a very iffy ST in terms of preparation and he really needs to face live hitting; there’s no way I make him throw another simulated game (which isn’t even simulated, with no hitters in the box).
“Are you trying to tell me that Chamberlain and Lincecum are the same one?”
Just the opposite. I’m merely pointing out that velo alone is not sufficient to make a pitcher what he is. It helps and reduces the margin for error, but even if Joba’s average FB velo is now 93 instead of the 95 it was in 2008, he can still be a very effective starter.
Stuckey,
he can throw another inning in the pen, if they so choose.
It’s ST. There are numerous ways to build pitch counts.
For those wondering about the 25-man roster and health coverage, I believe Fasano needed one more year of ML service to get health care for life, and one more day on a 25-man roster would have qualified him. Not sure if he ended up getting it or not.
HolyYankee!
joba & lincecum had the same fb last year
on rab it said lincecum threw his fb less & other pitches more
joba threw 65 % fb lat year i believe
it would be crazy to take joba out of the rotation now imo
he needs another year
I don’t think that’s how it works Josh – according to the article, it seems year to year:
“If you are a ballplayer, and you spend so much as a second on a major league roster, you are entitled to a year of coverage that, says one major league executive, “takes care of pretty much everything you can think of.”
This is the last information on Fasano’s sitiation. It didn’t really explain, but, from it, I gather that there is a limit on the amount that the insurance would cover.
“”It’s often hard to get out of bed … hard to want to go to the field,” says Fasano, who batted .236 with four home runs in 61 games. “This year I made $12,000 per month before taxes, and my wife is home with the kids, serving as a mother and a father. You can’t help but question your sanity. You’re driven by one thing — hope.”
Hope, sadly, is fleeting. A battered, fatigued, frustrated Fasano arrived home two weeks ago, just in time for Santo’s second birthday on Sept. 21. Next Thursday, Santo will undergo his third — and, hopefully, final — major heart surgery. The Fasanos are uncertain how much of the operation, which will costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, will be covered by their minor league-provided health plan, which is far inferior to the MLB option.”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html
Sorry, Sunny. I guess I’ll have to read all of the posts before answering one.