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Today’s lineup vs. Detroit

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 28, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Johnson DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher RF
Brett Gardner LF

LHP Andy Pettitte

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53 Responses to “Today’s lineup vs. Detroit”

  1. Tarheelyank March 28th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    It’s getting close. That is your opening day line-up.

  2. bru March 28th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....werth.html

  3. teddy gbu March 28th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    get out the brooms

  4. crawdaddy March 28th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Chad,

    How’s the weather for today?

  5. crawdaddy March 28th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    I don’t believe any of that Werth garbage. It’s always about the money and he’ll go with which team pays him the most money especially if this is his last opportunity to really cash in.

  6. Eddiebaseball March 28th, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Carl Crawford > Jason Werth for the Yankees next season.

  7. David in Cal March 28th, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Yankee hitting seems to have been poor this spring. They look the opposite of what should be the highest scoring team in baseball. If Burnett’s good pitching yesterday is a good sign, why isn’t bad team hitting a bad sign? Does anyone know if there are any statistical studies showing whether team hitting in ST has predictive value?

  8. randy l. March 28th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    random thought for the day:

    jorge posada throwing the way he does at his age is amazing, maybe even more amazing than hitting as well as he does for a catcher.

    think about it, how many 38 year old pitchers don’t lose most of their plus velocity .

    pitchers can get hitters out with secondary pitches and a reduced fastball.
    but when a catcher loses his fastball, he becomes a liability – like varitek who is 8 months younger than posada.

    posada still threw out 28% of runners last year when he finished the year at age 38.

    posada really doesn’t get credit from most yankee fans for what really is an amazing latter part of his career. he has been so injury free and he’s stayed at such a high level that his longevity has been taken for granted.

    posada may not quite make the hall of fame, but he will get his number retired with the yankees and down down as one of their greatest catchers.

  9. whatever March 28th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Thames and Winn are automatic outs, why didn’t the Yankees go after someone like Johnny Gomes, someone who kills lefties? opening day is going to be a nightmare seeing Thames against Lester.. the Yankees have a big weakness in their bench… joe girardi needs to trust gardner against lefties because this bench is just awful.. AWFUL AWFUL.. kind of reminds me when the Yankees had Josh Phelps and Morgan Ensberg.

  10. MTU (aka GBURL) March 28th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Randy-

    “posada may not quite make the hall of fame, but he will get his number retired with the yankees and down down as one of their greatest catchers.”

    Right up there with Montero. ;)

  11. upstate kate March 28th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    randy
    excellent comments regarding Jorge, we take him for granted sometimes.

    I think werth follows the $$ as well. Holliday, Damon etc etc all wanted to play for the Yankees, but follwed the $$, and who can blame them really.

    whatever
    beckett is the opening day pitcher for the sox, and why would Thames be starting anyway?

  12. whatever March 28th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    “whatever
    beckett is the opening day pitcher for the sox, and why would Thames be starting anyway?”

    okay then thames will start against lester in game 2 and look just as horrible, whats your point?

  13. MTU (aka GBURL) March 28th, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Kate-

    Countdown those days.

    Remember to stay in touch.

    Was going to one of the great beauties yesterday but weather did not cooperate.

    Next week though. :)

  14. ditmars1929 March 28th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Seeing today’s lineup makes me ache even more for opening day. God, I can’t wait.

    Excellent post on Posada, Randy.

  15. Tarheelyank March 28th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Randy

    Here is my prediction. Jorge(being inspired by Jeter’s 2009) will have a monster year. He will shove Robbie from the 5 hole, and defensively, will have a top 5 year. Finally, he will get the respect he deserves from the Yankee fan base.

  16. bru March 28th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    thames agains lester is as good or better than melky & gardner in our lineup everyday last year
    thames does well enough against lefties & lester is a great pitcher that gives every hitter problems

    we started the year with ransom playing 3b & this year arod will be from game 1 so we are already starting off better

    we have options if we need bench players during the year,pena is fine as a backup infielder

    if thames does not work out or gardner we will fix the problem with a trade,fa or the minors

  17. randy l. March 28th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    ” Does anyone know if there are any statistical studies showing whether team hitting in ST has predictive value?”

    david in cal-

    yes it does .

    there is a definite correlation between poor spring training results and some yankee fans increased need for anti depressants and anxiety disorder drugs -especially those who are regular readers of blogs.

    with red sox fans, however, delusion disorders seem to increase when the red sox hit well, pitch well, win, or do anything well, like blowing their nose.

    drugs are not necessary as the delusion seems to clear up on it’s own by august.

  18. bru March 28th, 2010 at 9:24 am

    we are talking about 1 spot being a big concern
    lf

    wether it be thames,gardner,winn

    if it is a problem at the break cash gets something done or calls up russo or one of the others that are doing well in st

    lf will not be a dead spot in the lineup

    not with our resources

  19. whatever March 28th, 2010 at 9:26 am

    “thames agains lester is as good or better than melky & gardner in our lineup everyday last year

    sounds like delusional talk. Melky is an everyday player, Thames is not.. and tell me besides that one hit against Randy Johnson 5 years ago what exactly has Thames done against lefties? I can’t recall him getting one hit against Sabathia or Pettitte last year.

  20. randy l. March 28th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    “Right up there with Montero.”

    mtu-

    after watching montero hit this spring, i’m torn whether montero should have his number retired before he plays a mlb game or simply wait until he gets a few seasons under his belt :)

    i haven’t looked forward to a young yankee making his mlb debut as much since jeter.

  21. pat March 28th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Jorge starting out as an infielder had to have saved some wear and tear on his body that other 38 year old catchers may not have had the benefit of.

  22. bru March 28th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    randy l.
    March 28th, 2010 at 9:20 am
    ” Does anyone know if there are any statistical studies showing whether team hitting in ST has predictive value?”

    david in cal-

    yes it does .

    there is a definite correlation between poor spring training results and some yankee fans increased need for anti depressants and anxiety disorder drugs -especially those who are regular readers of blogs.

    with red sox fans, however, delusion disorders seem to increase when the red sox hit well, pitch well, win, or do anything well, like blowing their nose.

    drugs are not necessary as the delusion seems to clear up on it’s own by august.
    ———————————————————–

    lmfao

    just fell out of my chair laughing

    didn’t spill the coffee though

  23. bru March 28th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    thames had a better slg , ops & obp than melky against lefties last year

  24. pat March 28th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    “I can’t recall him getting one hit against Sabathia or Pettitte last year.”

    FYI- 1 for 3 against CC and didn’t face Andy last year but was 1-2 against him in 2008 and it was a HR.

    Thames is what he is and in the grand scheme of things, what he is, is not that important.

  25. whatever March 28th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    does randy winn ever smile?

  26. bru March 28th, 2010 at 9:43 am

    whatever

    thames did better against lefties last year than melky regardless of who is or isn’t an everyday player
    he is only going to play against lefties maybe once a week

    in 157 ab against lefties melky hit 5 hr/20 rbi

    in 105 ab against lefties thames hit 4 hr/14 rbi

    average that production out & thames is more productive with a better obp,slg,ops against lefties

  27. pat March 28th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Jorge worked out at Miami with Alex this off season. Wonder if that changed his workout routine any?

  28. MTU(aka GBURL) March 28th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    Randy-

    of course we both know that Montero has a long way to go to achieve his cieling.

    He hasn’t even been brought up yet.

    He may not even come close to being a Posada, or better.

    It is fun to imagine though. :)

  29. Carl March 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am

    espn classic played the 60 minutes episode with number 1 pick Brien Taylor this morning :(

  30. Noreaster March 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Melky: 13HR, .274Ave, .336OBP, 10SB, .416SLG in 485 ABs
    Gardner: 3HR, .270Ave, .345OBP, 26SB, .379SLG in 248ABs

    Melky had 4 years to prove that he is nothing more than a 4th outfielder…Gardner will be given half the year to prove what type of a player he is, but we already know that he is better than Melky due to his Plus Speed and Defense.

  31. RhapsodyInBlue March 28th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Winn has certainly looked good defensively, I’m just not ready to write him off offensively, it’s still too early, but I do wonder how much time he will be allowed to get it together at the plate.

  32. Vader March 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Brien Taylor is one the great what could have been in sports, similar to Len Bias in basketball, minus the death and drugs, but being stupid cost him his career.

    One week until the games really count…can’t wait.

  33. randy l. March 28th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    mtu-

    there’s something about montero’s swing, quickness on turning on a pitch, and sound on contact that makes me think he’s as sure a thing as you’ll see.

    jeter himself hit bumps in the road in the minors, but he still had that intangible quality about him that you just knew he was going to be good.

    montero just has that wow quality about him.

  34. SJ44 March 28th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    At some point all of us, especially me, need to ignore the whine brigade in here. It dumbs down the entire place.

    They either do it to get a rise out of people or are just too dumb to understand their rantings make little sense.

    Whining about ST results, or the 25th man on the roster should be reserved for other blogs who specialize in such idiocy.

  35. MTU(aka GBURL) March 28th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Adjustments will be made:

    1 If something worthwhile falls into Cashman’s lap.

    2 Before the the end of the trade deadline as a mid-course correction.

    Gotta do some evaluatin’ first.

  36. Noreaster March 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    randy, Montero is consistent like Mattingly was consistent in the minors. This guy is going to rake from Day 1.

  37. bru March 28th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    i don’t think thames,winn or gardner will be given a ton of games to prove themselves

    if lf or the of bench is a problem cashman will fix it quickly

    with our resources i don’t see cashman allowing a dead spot in the lineup

    if gardner or winn do well enough we might wait until something better comes along but no guarantees

  38. pat March 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Melky was traded so he has no impact on Gardner’s playing time anymore so why bring him up?

  39. Noreaster March 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    bru, speed and defense doesn’t go into a slump. Cashman put up with Melky’s numbers for years, the bar isn’t set very high. (See my post above)

  40. MTU(aka GBURL) March 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Randy-

    I was referring more to the special qualities you referred to in terms of durability, and overall catching skills.

    Not worried about the bat.

    Montero’s would make Thor proud.

    Gotta run.

    Catcha later. :)

  41. yanksince57 - JESUS H MONTERO! March 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    what is the over/under on of starters this year? i bid 10 kwatloos :)

  42. Crawdaddy March 28th, 2010 at 10:06 am

    SJ,

    It’s the smart move to ignore the whiners and trolls. If nobody responds to them then they’re left there out on the branch just twisting in the wind called the internet.

  43. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 28th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    Randy, great post on Posada and LOL on your next post. I can speak for some on another board that they don’t like Posada personally; they think he’s a stick in the mud. When Swisher pitched last year in that embarrassing blowout in Tampa, Jorge sort of spoke to him about not laughing at the situation. Fans did not like that, but oddly, it’s that intensity that they missed when he was out most of 2008. I’m really tired of people assuming Jorge and Jeter have bugs up their behind because they want to win and show it. Michael Kay insisted yesterday that Jeter will tolerate getting hit by a pie when he finally does get one because the rest of the team enjoys it, but that he personally won’t enjoy it. Um ,that’s not true. Jeter smiles whenever he talks about getting hit by one of AJ’s pie bombs. Kay takes himself WAY too seriously and he thinks the Yankees should, too.

  44. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    I agree, troll posts ought to be ignored. Even if they don’t go away, by no one responding, it means their efforts were wasted – and that makes me happy, lol.

  45. Tom in N.J. March 28th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    You know this team is looking good when Trolls are left taking shots at the Yankees 25th man.

    Really that’s all they got?

  46. Bad Scooter March 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Call me crazy, but I think Jorge has a legitimate shot at the Hall of Fame. There are only 13 catchers in the Hall of Fame. Lets compare Jorge’s stats to the last 3 to be elected, Johnny Bench, Carlton Fisk and Gary Carter. Let me say this right now though. Johnny Bench is a slam dunk Hall of Fame catcher and is in a different league than Fisk and Carter. But I see no reason why Jorge can’t be compared to Fisk and Carter.

    Jorge’s career BA, OBP and SLG are higher than all 3 of those guys. Understood that these other guys played in the 70′s and 80′s as compared to the 90′s and 00′s where numbers seem to be inflated a bit. Also, the more years Jorge plays these numbers will probably go down as he gets older, just like Bench, Fisk and Carter. Jorge’s career totals in H, HR, RBI, etc. are not as high because he has not played anywhere close to the numbers of games as those guys yet.

    Also, take a look at the 162 game average for all. Jorge stacks up very well. Jorge has been overshadowed by the Jeter’s, Arods, Bernie’s, O’Neill’s, etc. but has been a very important piece to the Yankees puzzle. If Jorge can put up a couple more seasons like last year, you never know. And the World Series rings don’t hurt either. Thoughts?

    Johnny Bench
    G 2157
    BA .267
    OBP .345
    SLG .476
    H 2,048
    HR 389
    RBI 1,376
    R 1,091
    162 game avg
    HR 29
    RBI 103

    Carlton Fisk
    G 2499
    BA .269
    OBP .343
    SLG .457
    H 2,356
    HR 376
    RBI 1,330
    R 1,276
    162 game avg
    HR 24
    RBI 86

    Gary Carter
    G 2295
    BA .262
    OBP .335
    SLG .439
    H 2,092
    HR 324
    RBI 1,225
    R 1,025
    162 game avg
    HR 23
    RBI 86

    Jorge Posada
    G 1594
    BA .277
    OBP .379
    SLG .480
    H 1488
    HR 243
    RBI 964
    R 817
    162 game avg
    HR 25
    RBI 98

  47. bru March 28th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    i just can’t be upset about st results

    we started last year with ransom at 3rd base,wang & nady

    we commented all spring about a lot of this & everything changed & we won the ws

    means nothing

    for all we know gardner,thames,winn suck ,we trade for crawford or werth or someone from the minors is mashing & is given a chance

    but one thing i have learned with the yankees is that if there is a problem or a dead spot in the lineup cashman does not sit still

    he will fix it or try

  48. randy l. March 28th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    “Montero is consistent like Mattingly was consistent in the minors. This guy is going to rake from Day 1.”

    noreaster-

    i’m new to the montero bandwagon because this spring is the first time i’ve seen him hit.

    but i’m officially on it with a a newcomer’s religious zeal.

    nothing is better for a yankee fan than when a great young player comes up.

  49. Rishi March 28th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    :arrow:

  50. bru March 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Noreaster
    March 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
    bru, speed and defense doesn’t go into a slump. Cashman put up with Melky’s numbers for years, the bar isn’t set very high. (See my post above)

    ———————————————————–

    i agree

    as long as gardner holds his own at the plate i get it

    a lot of factors come into play
    opportunities,future salary,etc…

    melky is gone because gardner did as well or close to it for less money but better defense

    as gardners salary increases the more expendable he becomes

    we can talk all year about it but the reality is that gardner is the lf for now with probably thames & winn on the bench

    if cashman feels the need to make a change he will do so

    would i wan’t werth or cc in the o.f. instead?
    sure but that is not the reality right now & reality is all that matters

  51. Noreaster March 28th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Scooter, Right now Posada is like O’Neil and Bernie, just short of HOF numbers. Posada’s averge is up above Fisk’s and Carter’s, but his AB’s are way too low. He’ll have to play another 500 games to get into their league. I’m not sure he has 3+ years left, but he might!

  52. Noreaster March 28th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    I agree bru…

  53. Bad Scooter March 28th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    I get that Noreaster, but that’s a problem I have with the Hall of Fame. It’s become a place for compilers. As long as you play 20 seasons and compile a ton of hits or wins, you make it. The Hall of Fame is for the best of the best. Sure Fisk and Carter were considered the best at their positions for quite awhile. I don’t believe that Jorge has ever been considered the best. Among the top 2, 3 or 4 for most of his career though. Maybe Jorge has to “compile” some more number to make it, but it’s not out of the question. But why can’t a guy play 10-15 years and have very, very good numbers, not make it to 500HR’s or 300 wins and still make the Hall of Fame? Sure it happens once in a great while (Kirby Puckett), but it’s more about reaching those career milestones than anyting these days.

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