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Spring Training Game 24: Yankees at Orioles (with Teixeira update)

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Mar 29, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Johnson DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Marcus Thames LF
Randy Winn RF
Francisco Cervelli C
Greg Golson CF

RHP Javy Vazquez

ORIOLES
Brian Roberts 2B
Adam Jones CF
Nick Markakis RF
Miguel Tejeda 3B
Luke Scott 1B
Matt Wieters C
Garrett Atkins DH
Nolan Reimold LF
Cesar Izturis SS

RHP Jeremy Guthrie

TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m./MASN in the Baltimore area

WEATHER: Windy and a little chilly — for Florida, I’m still wearing short sleeves — but no real chance of rain. They’ll play this one.

UMPIRES: HP Tom Welke, 1B Chad Fairchild, 3B Marvin Hudson

ON THE LINE: Royce Ring made the trip. Boone Logan has gotten most of the attention in the competition to (potentially) be the second lefty in the bullpen, but Ring has pretty good numbers himself. Through 5.2 innings he’s allowed three hits, walked one and struck out seven.

UPDATE, 7:18 p.m.: Two-out, three-run home run by Robinson Cano in the first inning. That seems to be the kind of thing you’re looking for in a No. 5 hitter.

UPDATE, 7:39 p.m.: Mark Teixeira is coming out of the game after being hit by a pitch. It looked like it got him in the right elbow. Teixeira nearly slammed his helmet to the ground he was so upset. I’ll try to have an update as soon as possible.

UPDATE, 8:07 p.m.: Still no news on Teixeira, but Javier Vazquez looks pretty solid. Two-hard hit balls that went for doubles, but otherwise he’s been pretty good through three innings.

UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Francisco Cervelli was just hit by a pitch. It wasn’t bad and Cervelli stayed in the game, but Joe Girardi did start shouting and motioning from the dugout. It takes a lot to get Girardi mad, but he was pretty hot.

UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Teixeira has a right elbow contusion. No x-rays were taken. He will be reevaluated tomorrow.

UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: I’ve said it before, Adam Jones is a lot bigger in person than I expected. He just crushed a three-run homer off Vazquez, pulling the Orioles within 5-4 in the fifth.

UPDATE, 9:03 p.m.: There’s the power we’ve heard about. David Winfree just smoked a three-run home run to center field. The wind has died down quite  bit, so I’m still giving Winfree credit for “smoking” the ball.

UPDATE, 9:24 p.m.: Speaking of power, Marcus Thames just hit his second home run of the spring and the Yankees have a 9-4 lead in the seventh. Joba Chamberlain got the final two outs of the sixth, but there’s no stadium radar gun here in Sarasota, so I have no idea how hard he was throwing.

UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Fair question from our pal Sweeny Murti: When’s the last time a catcher had a stolen base and an infield single in the same game? Francisco Cervelli has pulled it off tonight.

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568 Responses to “Spring Training Game 24: Yankees at Orioles (with Teixeira update)”

  1. California March 29th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Regarding AL Spring Training standings,
    guess who’s currently second place ?

  2. Garden Inn March 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Is this game online anywhere? radio feed? anyone?

  3. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 29th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I just realized I am probably going to miss the beginning of the game on Sunday. It’s Easter. We’re driving out to LI to have dinner with our daughter and then driving back. We’re hoping to get 1 p.m. dinner reservations, but I don’t expect to be home earlier than 8 pm. Why is there a night game to start the season? Why is it on Easter Sunday?

  4. Chip March 29th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    On Keith Law:
    I’ve obviously never met the man, but just going on his chats and interviews I get the impression his sarcasm is a bit of a defense mechanism. He often responds to legitimate questions without answering directly but instead with a sarcastic comment. For example, when he’s ripping a player like Alexi Ramirez and someone says “sure he’s OBP is low, but he hits for power and plays good defense, so what makes him a bad player” he often responds with “that will be $5 for baiting”

    I tend to think that this is borne out of bitterness about the fact that JP let him walk and with young executives getting GM jobs all over the league: Josh Byrnes, Dayton Moore, Jed Hoyer, Alex Anthopolus, Paul DePodesta, etc…he hasn’t gotten a sniff from a major league team. I’m guessing that no matter how popular his chats are on ESPN, the fact that he’s doing them rather than sitting in a GM’s office somewhere going over scouting reports is eating him alive.

  5. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Greg Golson hasn’t been cut yet has he?

    I don’t see him getting the call over Thames but he’s done more than I thought he would.

    Joba’s pitching tonight no?

  6. Sean March 29th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Is tejada their opening day clean up hitter?

    If so, gotta love the O’s

  7. MTU (aka GBURL) March 29th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Bronx-

    “Joba’s pitching tonight no?”

    correct.

  8. MTU (aka GBURL) March 29th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Garden inn-

    mlb.com

  9. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Available to pitch today: Javier Vazquez, Joba Chamberlain, Dave Robertson, Grant Duff and Royce Ring.

  10. Chip March 29th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    by the way – Bill Madden with another stroke of genius – he thinks Jon Weber should be on the 25 man roster when camp breaks.

    Now look, Weber’s having a great spring, no doubt. And him making the roster would be a feel good story like when Clay Bellinger made it, but we’ve been down this road before:

    Josh Phelps
    Shelley Duncan
    Andy Phillips
    Todd Linden

    some guys are just AAAA players, and that seems to be Weber as well.

  11. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    “Todd Linden”

    Linder NEVER did broke camp with the team.

  12. RayVT March 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    LGY – Child Prodigy/GB7’s Bestest Buddy
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    I agree with you. I only pointed out the disparity about Law to show his bias. He ranks Boston ahead of Tampa and his own top 100 do not reflect it. So he is biased.

  13. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Eh, you gotta feel bad for the O’s and their fans.

    Sure they gave Tex a hard time last season but that’s all they got.

    Imagine the best they’re going to do this season is possibly not finish in last place.

  14. Giuseppe Franco March 29th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    When the Yanks actually do have legitimate young prospects – Bill Madden isn’t interested.

    He only wants to tell you how great the Red Sox system is.

    Bill Madden couldn’t be more clueless. His views on Yankee prospects is just the tip of the iceberg.

  15. MTU (aka GBURL) March 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Bronx-

    I think the O’s have a nice core of players in Markakis, Jones, and Wieters with more on the way in Matusz and Tillman. ;)

  16. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Beckett is on mlb right now. Facing the rays.

  17. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Wow-I just noticed Marty Foster isn’t there tonight. lol

  18. Sean March 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Is there anybody in the media that are pro-Yankees?

  19. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Longoria just took beckett deep. He was all over that pitch.

  20. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Chip,

    You have posted that thing about Law 3 times. It is not correct.

  21. Scott March 29th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I don’t think Keith Law is a condescending you know what, I think he is an excellent scout and sabremetrician

  22. RayVT March 29th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I wasn’t arguing that the Yanks have better prospects than the Red Sox (although I believe they do), I was only arguing that the Rays have better prospects than the Red Sox. Law said the Red Sox were better than the Rays and then proceeded to list the Rays higher in his own Top 100. He is biased and it shows. I could care less what people think, but if you publish a list and then make a conclusion about it then it should correlate with your list! LOL! He is a jerk. That is his right. It is hard to take him seriously though.

  23. Al March 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    “Is there anybody in the media that are pro-Yankees?”

    Callis
    Rosenthal
    Stark
    Olney
    Harper
    Sherman

  24. Ralph D'Ambrosio March 29th, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    i found a stream

    its poor quality and no audio lol but its better than nothing…

    http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threa.....Mon-Mar-29

    click on the yankee v bal link…(you need the “stream torrent” software)

  25. RayVT March 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Sean
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
    Is there anybody in the media that are pro-Yankees?

    Sterling! LOL!

  26. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    following half-inning gameday updates here:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....b_balmlb_1

  27. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Ray,

    I agree looking at what you posted it would seem he would rank the Rays ahead, but IDK I just do not see any reason for him to be biased.

    He is a smart guy and a very good talent evaluator IMO and I think most in baseball agree with that opinion.

  28. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Harold Reynolds is one of the few people who is decidedly pro-yankees. Leiter too.

  29. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Cano baby! 3 rbi homer!

  30. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Cano just hit a bomb. He is gonna have a huge year.

  31. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Cano crushed a pitch right down the middle out to just left of center (oppo!) but there is a 30 mph wind blowing out. It was still crushed though

  32. pat March 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    3 run HR for Robbie- wind assisted.

  33. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Sterling!!! And of course, leave it to Yankees fans to hate the guy!

  34. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    so who was on base for Cano?

  35. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    If Law ranked the Yankee system 2 everyone on here would love him.

    Idk people get so wrapped up in his personality. It is mostly just a sthick and he has admitted so.

  36. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    I would certainly argue that we have better prospects than the Red Sox.

  37. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    ah – got it, half inning must be over:)

  38. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    NJ via walk, Tex via single

  39. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    so who was on base for Cano?

    Nick/Tex

  40. Pat M. March 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Is anyone here really surprised by Cashman’s comments today regarding the frustrating saga that has become Joba Chamberlain ???? I thought that story brought here at The LoHud back in November or whenever Cashman traded for Javier Vasquez….There were few here that made reference to this subject….

  41. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    I’m so glad cano is on our team.

  42. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    That was just a terrific at bat by Cano. And I’m not even referring to the home run.

    Cano was aggressive on the first pitch probably thinking that the pitcher might try to get a quick strike over. It was a good pitch that Cano missed.

    Gutherie then went to the standard play book with Cano. He went to the corners and tried to get Cano to expand the zone.

    Instead Cano laid off some pitches that were out of the zone but weren’t horribly so.

    He ran the count to 3-1. And on 3-1 Guthrie went with a fastball that missed it’s spot because it had arm side run on it when they were trying to bust Cano inside.

    The pitch wound up middle out and Cano put a beautiful swing on it – one of those great Cano swings – taking the ball the other way and crushing it.

    That was just a wonderful at bat because of its process and the way Cano commanded what happened by staying patient with men on base.

  43. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    LGY – Child Prodigy/GB7′s Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    If Law ranked the Yankee system 2 everyone on here would love him.

    Idk people get so wrapped up in his personality. It is mostly just a sthick and he has admitted so.

    No, he would be stupid for ranking it number 2.

  44. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    CB: The best thing about that was the 1-1 pitch was a change up away, which is a pitch Cano knows he can hit, and he laid off. It wasn’t even a great change, and Cano laid off it.

    Good signs, good signs.

    MASN announcers mentioned that Kevin Long would be pleased that he was selectively aggressive.

  45. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    I keep reading about how Javy Vazquez is only an “innings eater” and a guy who is durable but not particularly special. A guy who was good in the NL but is going to struggle in the AL.

    But when you watch him pitch he showing 3 plus pitches over and over.

    His off speed stuff is tremendous now and he really knows how to pitch. He set up Roberts beautifully there and struck him out on a gorgeous change up that Roberts just waved at.

  46. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes
    March 29th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    This is the problem with people getting too wrapped up in prospect rankings.
    The fact is, the vast majority of these prospects do not work out. The “consensus” from year to year is more often than not wrong.
    You can look at the Rays and the Red Sox system and say, wth is Law thinking? Player A, B, and C on the Rays is so much better than Player X, Y, and Z on the Red Sox. But the problem is that the vast majority of the time both sides of the debate is wrong. A turns out better than X. Y turns into a superstar. C and Z both become bench players. Etc.
    There is just so much uncertainty and so much subjectivity when it comes to ranking prospects alone and this flaw is just incredibly magnified when it comes to dealing with a whole organization.
    Law is very high on Kelly and Westmoreland (obviously before Westmoreland’s surgery). Law has his own opinion. There is no perfect formula for evaluating and projecting prospects. If Law disagrees with the “consensus” it does not mean he is wrong. In a few years he could very well be right about the Sox system being better than the Rays.
    Chances are though, in a few years, there will not be a clear answer to who was right as there are so many variations on what can happen.
    ======

    What I’m getting is a general beside-the-point thesis on the unpredictability of prospects. Well, yeah, thus the term ‘prospects.’
    But how does this relate AT ALL to Law’s preposterous stance?
    Now, re Kelly and Westmoreland: – it’s not as though Law ingeniously uncovered some hidden gems in their system, and that’s how he’s justifying his position.
    Wade Davis and Desmond Jennings – their logical opposites in the Bay’s system – one is the fifth starter in 2010 for the parent club, the latter waits in the wings, breathing down Carl Crawford’s neck as his replacement, once the latter is dispatched.
    That would actually contradict your own non sequitur about how prospects don’t generally pan out – the top two in the Rays’ system are ‘closer’ to their projectability by being two universally-anointed stud talents on the threshhold of starting their ML careers.
    In terms of proximity to the majors, Westmoreland and Kelly are comparatively far away.
    So if I were to argue your folksy, generic comment on ‘prospects’ not working out as a credible premise for Law’s rating Boston over Tampa (and I still don’t really see the connection), the Rays top guys ARE panning out enough to be with the big club…
    And if you want to compare pitching talent, the Rays have Jeremy Hellickson and LH Matt Moore – who also are considered five-star prospects – and of their top 10 guys, four are LHP. Hellickson may be with the big club this year in the BP.
    And sorry, no legitimate evaluator is going to consider Tazawa and Michael Effing Bowden high-end talents.
    Lars Anderson? Their great power hitting lefty? He’s got such upside, the Red Sox are falling all over themselves trying to acquire Adrian Gonzalez.

  47. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Javy
    Vasquez
    Is
    Sick

    I hate to invoke that name, but I love Javy.

  48. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Javy looks good

  49. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    LGY

    How come it just so happens that the shtick of every ESPN personality is to propagandize the Red Sox.

    People take issue with it because it is tiring.

  50. Moti-Mo March 29th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    “Is there anybody in the media that are pro-Yankees?”

    “Callis
    Rosenthal
    Stark
    Olney
    Harper
    Sherman”

    LOL…Buster Olney and Joel Sherman are PRO Yankees??

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  51. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    “The best thing about that was the 1-1 pitch was a change up away, which is a pitch Cano knows he can hit, and he laid off.”

    Cano frequently leaks with men on base. And it’s exactly on pitches like that 1-1 pitch where he leaks.

    He jumps at soft stuff out of the zone and often just rolls over on the ball pulling it weakly to the right side.

    That at bat was exactly the opposite of all of those problems.

  52. jd March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    No routine fly balls tonight. Could be interesting.

  53. Chip March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    I don’t think Keith Law is a condescending you know what, I think he is an excellent scout and sabremetrician

    I think if Keith Law was half as smart as he thinks he is then he wouldn’t be working for ESPN.

    On Golson – he won’t break camp with the Yankees, but a strong performance at AAA coupled with a poor performance by the combination of Winn and Gardner could get him called up at some point.

    Of the outfield guys who have been brought in I would say that Thames will break with the Yankees:

    Golson and Curtis have the first call ups by virtue of being on the 40 man roster, and David Winfree will really have to show something special.

    Odds of Goreki or Weber getting called up are slightly better than the odds of me getting called up. See John Rodriguez last year.

  54. teddy gbu March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    forget to mention mlb network mention the paintball battle between media and staff

  55. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    :Callis
    Rosenthal
    Stark
    Olney

    I think those were meant as anti Yankees and pro Red Sox.

    Olney, the guy that covered and tried qualifying Cone and Wells’ perfect games, taking credit away from them both. Very pro Yankees ;)

  56. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    “His off speed stuff is tremendous now and he really knows how to pitch. He set up Roberts beautifully there and struck him out on a gorgeous change up that Roberts just waved at.”=============================================

    Another reason as to why you dont need to throw 98mph tp pitch effectively.

  57. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    OT to Doreen

    Doreen – thanks for responding in the other thread. Kids being bullied is really a big issue with me. And reading that any child/adolescent commits suicide because of being bullied brings blood to my eye. My heart breaks for those kids, thinking what they had to be going through to get to that point.

    I’ve got some time now and think I want to research the issue and maybe try to get some kind of movement started that would criminalize bullying that leads to suicide and also come up with penalties for teachers and administrators who ignore bullying. It’s well past time for that problem to be confronted head on but not in a scatter-gun fashion as has seemed to be the case.

    **********************

    GO YANKEES

  58. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    That change up Javy threw to Markakis was just sick. Markakis looked like he was going to tip over Vazquez had him reaching and off balance so badly.

  59. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Chip,

    That is now the 4th time you have posted that about Law. It is wrong. Please stop posting it.

  60. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Yay for Robbie!! So, I finally get to watch this Friday’s game, and knowing my luck, he’ll have the day off.

  61. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Wind or no wind, Cano’s blast was going out. It was the difference between 450 feet and 425 feet.

  62. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    People who have taken the time to watch Vazquez pitch since 2004 realize this guy aint a #4 starter.

  63. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    I haven’t read Madden in years and it’s a pleasure. This guy was once a respected journalist? It’s hard to believe – both he and Lupica are jokes.

  64. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Cano crushed that ball. Wind wasn’t why it went out.

    Cano that time set up the pitcher and when Guthrie made a mistake he was ready to take advantage of it.

    He put a tremendous swing on it.

  65. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    No, LGY – I just dislike the guy. I don’t care if it’s his schtick or not; he’s an unlikeable, unpleasant horse’s patootie.

  66. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    I gotta say, cervilli has had some good ab’s all spring.

  67. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Cano seems to be nice and relaxed with RISP this spring; I’ve been skeptical of him, but there’s nothing I would love better to be wrong because he’s so talented. He’s a guy that would be a good advertisement for the game – he’s always smiling.

  68. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    CR9,

    Why do you care? Their goal is to make money and get viewers. If anti-Yankee bias works for them (if there is indeed one) then so be it. Just watch a different channel. Maybe then with less viewers they would change their style.

  69. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Eppler just said that he doesn’t anticipate Ricky Martin ever engaging in heterosexual activity again.

    /Bronx Jeers’d

  70. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Eppler just said that he doesn’t anticipate Ricky Martin ever engaging in heterosexual activity again.

    /Bronx Jeers’d

    lmao

  71. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    I was against the trade at first, but now I could not be more pleased with Javy. First, it’s clear that he never wanted to leave here. Second, his teammates that are still here apparently never once questioned his competitiveness as did that psycho in Chicago. Third, he can obviously pitch. Sam wrote that Phil enjoys talking pitching; I hope he enjoys watching pitching, too, because he’s got some wonderful veterans to learn from. Obviously the same applies to Joba.

  72. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Jerkface, lol – inside joke ? LOL He should change his name to Phil Hughes is Awful or The Yankees Organization Makes me Sick.

  73. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    oh f-word, Tex just got hit right on the goddamn elbow

  74. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    oh no

  75. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Teixeira just left the game. Could hear it from here. #nyy
    less than 5 seconds ago via TweetDeck

    Ledger_Yankees Guthrie nailed Teixeira on the elbow with a fastball. Not good. Trainer out. Slammed helmet down. #nyy
    less than 20 seconds ago via TweetDeck

  76. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  77. Alex March 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    If anybody truly believes that Callis, Rosenthal, Stark, Olney and Sherman are pro-Yankee, then they must be on some serious drugs. Rosenthal, Olney and Sherman are all Red Sox shills, while Stark is pro Philadelphia and hates the Yanks while Callis have never met a Yankee prospect he liked.

    Olney is particular is the worst but you can’t really blame him as he learned his Red Sox loving ways under the tutelage of Peter Gammons, the ultimate Red Sox media homer. Watch Rosnethal during the pre trade deadline FOX broadcasts and you won’t hear five words come out of his mouth before Red Sox pops out. They guy lives and dies with his Sawx.

    THe only way that list of people could have been more laughable would have been if the names Mike Lupica, Bob Ryan, Bill Simmons, Gordon Edes, or the one and only Pete Gammons were on it.

  78. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    looked like muscle or funny bone….hopefully.

  79. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    “People who have taken the time to watch Vazquez pitch since 2004 realize this guy aint a #4 starter.”

    I just read this earlier today so it’s fresh in my mind. Tony Masserotti did his preseason preview – he had the yankees as the #1 team. He did a more detailed Yanks vs. Sox look and below is what he had to say about Vazquez.

    And this isn’t just Masserotti. Similar kind of things have been written by the NY and National press.

    The implicit comparison to Livan Hernandez was great.

    “1. The new starters: John Lackey vs. Javier Vazquez.

    Though the Yankees rebuilt the front end of their rotation last year, New York further fortified its rotation by acquiring righthander Javier Vazquez from the Atlanta Braves. Vazquez’s first stint in New York was a disaster, but the Yankees this time do not need Vazquez to be a 20-game winner so much as they need him to be an innings-eater.

    We all know what Lackey means to the Red Sox – in the short term and the long. But before anyone dismisses the Vazquez acquisition, know this: he is one of the most durable pitchers in baseball. Over the last 10 years, the only major leaguer with more games started than Vazquez (327) is Livan Hernandez (332). That stability is worth a great deal.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/c.....story.html

  80. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Pat M, CB went through the interview and really brought out some points that I had missed. I’m going to listen to it again now….Kay said that Mitre finished 2nd in the race, SJ said Aceves; I guess it doesn’t matter as the point is the Yankees do not think Joba is ready to be a starter for them.

  81. Zach March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    Geez… Mark Teixeira just got drilled…

  82. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    two things that are happening right now.

    1) xrays

    2) Mri

  83. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    What? ****!

  84. California March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    I’m going to expect the worst. Out of season?

  85. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    Oh you have got to be kidding; god, I hope it’s not broken.

  86. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    CB -

    Nice positive feedback – immediate – for Cano in that at-bat. Positive reinforcement. I’ll expect more of the same from him going forward. :)

    Trisha -

    When I read the article and read that teachers had witnessed the situation and remained silent until after the suicide, I saw red. My husband actually came home just a few minutes ago and asked me if I had seen the news and I knew immediately what he was referring to. I wish you Godspeed in your endeavor, if you go forward. :)

  87. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I don’t think that got Tex on the elbow. I think it hit just above the elbow on the back of his arm over the triceps.

    Let’s hope it didn’t strike the angle of the bone there.

    Last year Tex had that wrist problem and it didn’t help the way his season started.

  88. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Any news on Teix?

  89. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Poor Tex :(

    Hopefully he’s OK

  90. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Oh boy, Tex’s reaction (based on that tweet) makes it sound like it’s serious, like he knows it’s broken. One freaking week from Opening Day.

  91. Arno March 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    That looks like it hurt for Tex. We better not lose him this early in the season…

  92. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Good piece by Miggy there.

    CB, when you mix dependability and effectiveness thats a pretty good combo for a “#4″ huh.

  93. Mark March 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Did not look like it him square in the elbow, but man Tex was ticked so lets hope for the best.

  94. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    No news on tex yet…

    two things I want to hear:

    1) XRAYS = negative

    2) mri = clean.

  95. Al March 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

    Why are the starters playing in the games so close to the regular season?

  96. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    I’m sick…..

    CB, thanks for posting that article. Bucholz and Hughes are going to be compared to each other for a long time.

    Poor Tex…..

  97. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Somethings never change. Regardless of how much he’s lost as a hitter, how old he gets or who’s pitching, Tejada is going to hit Yankee pitchers hard.

  98. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Tex was in a lot of pain but he was still moving his arm at the elbow.

    It looked like it got him in the funny bone more than anything that suggested it was definitely broken per se.

    We just have to wait.

  99. Ricky March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Just an awful way to start the season

    Juan Miranda, come on down. Now we have 2 guys who can’t hit lefties – Miranda and Granderson.

  100. California March 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    New topic of obsession:

    Who will replace Tex?

    Juan Miranda?

    I heard Doug Mientkiewicz is available.

  101. Emo March 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Joe – Pull the starters, NOW. No need to play any of them until next Sunday Night.

  102. b March 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Masn is open on direct tv watching it now

  103. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Benny Blanco
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    No news on tex yet…

    two things I want to hear:

    1) XRAYS = negative

    2) mri = clean.

    ******************************
    Benny, I got all excited for a second, and then I saw the “no news” part of you post. lol

  104. ghyu March 29th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    So much for defending the championship. season over before even started :( :(

  105. Rob Thompson March 29th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Tex is going to fine. Looked like his range of motion was ok – based on that don’t think there are any broken bones. Thought Guthrie had better control than that – that one must have just got away from him, right???

  106. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Please please let Tex be ok….

  107. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    I have FIOS and I’m in NJ so I don’t get MASN :(

    Thanks for the updates everyone

  108. NYY626 March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    oh boy, i’m freaking out about Tex over here. I’m praying hard its not too serious…

  109. ghyu March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    I think Tex’s injury is a blessing in disguise — no more Joba talk !!!!!!!!!

  110. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Sorry erin.

    Please let him be day to day.

  111. Benny Blanco March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Sorry erin.

    Please let him be day to day.

  112. CA Giant March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Cash needs to start working the phones now to get a replacement, we cannot have another Cody Random situation… could Dye fill in? Maybe Frank Thomas?

  113. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Too many breaking balls

  114. Rob Thompson March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    One other thing on Tex, he’s a warrior.

  115. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    my mlb audio went out. What’s going on?

  116. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    I heard a rumor that the lead columnist for the new ESPN NY, that is to be launched, will be Peter Gammons.

  117. Moti-Mo March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Betsy wrote: “I was against the trade at first”

    How could anybody be against that trade??

  118. EricS March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    gyhu,

    chill out we don’t even know if he’s injured. You’re acting like he’s on IR already.

  119. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    oh f-word, Tex just got hit right on the goddamn elbow

    ———————–

    Eiland strikes again! Another arm ruined!

  120. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Tex was flexing his arm at his elbow when he went into the clubhouse. He wasn’t hunched over or holding his arm.

    He walked into the clubhouse on his own – no one was holding his arm or supporting him.

    Just wait and see what the X-rays show.

  121. Al March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Guthrie had the bases loaded… I don’t think he purposely hit him and wanted to force in a run. He probably tried to ham jam him inside and it missed.

  122. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Phil, Tex was hit on the elbow and he apparently threw the helmet down in anger. I hope hope hope that it was just out of frustration and pain and not because he could tell right away that something was wrong. I hate the Orioles and right now I’m not too thrilled with Guthrie.

  123. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    NYY626
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    oh boy, i’m freaking out about Tex over here. I’m praying hard its not too serious…

    *************************
    same here

  124. Charlie Rose March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    ghyu
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    I think Tex’s injury is a blessing in disguise — no more Joba talk !!!!!!!!!

    ++++++++++++

    Amen.

  125. Jim March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    “I heard a rumor that the lead columnist for the new ESPN NY, that is to be launched, will be Peter Gammons.”

    I heard the same rumor.

    I also head that Keith Law, Jim Callis, and Donovan McNabb would be adding content to the site as well.

  126. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    It’s back. We gave up a run.

  127. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Phil,

    Man on first and second. Vazquez lost the zone a little bit – lots of curve balls that inning.

    Just got a soft ground ball to alex who promptly started a double play to end the inning.

    No news on Tex via TV.

  128. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Nice pick-up on a tricky smash to Rodriguez and a fast turn at 2nd by Cano for the inning ending DP

  129. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Swisher to 1st base. Gardner in LF, Grandy in CF, Winn in RF.

    My dream OF.

  130. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    If you’ve ever been hit on the funny bone by a pitched ball it makes you want to die and kill someone at the same time.

  131. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Haha they aren’t going to run an MRI because he got plunked in the arm. MRI is used for soft tissue and it’s not like a beanball could tear his UCL

  132. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Benny Blanco
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    Sorry erin.

    *************************
    that’s OK-I just got my hopes up too soon!

  133. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Moti-Mo, all I remembered was Vasquez from his stint here and I figured he wasn’t an AL pitcher. I didn’t realize at the time that the was a ridiculously durable pitcher…

    CB, thanks; I’ll try to think positive. I know Guthrie didn’t do it on purpose, but when a key piece of the team is possibly seriously hurt, the last thing I’m thinking of is the opposing pitcher.

  134. Tank March 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    So far, the only confirmed columnists for ESPN NY are Ian O’Connor and Adam Rubin (as the Mets beat reporter).

  135. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Tex must be absolutely fed up with being HBP’d. The Rays and the Phillies really tatooed him last season. In fact, our front 4 all get hit by pitches as part of their games.

  136. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    “It’s back. We gave up a run.”

    Javy left a fastball up in the zone to Wieters who turned on the ball very well to knock in Tejada who had doubled.

    Javy then started throwing a lot of breaking stuff and losing the zone and walking Garrett Atkins.

  137. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Oops I forgot to add the ;) at the end.

    But, for real, Ian O’Connor will be the head guy. I think he’s from the Bergen Record; and he is also a Red Sox stinksniffer.

    Oh well.

  138. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Blake, have you ever had a leg cramp? I don’t mean a charlie horse, I mean when you calf cramps up. When that happens, yep – you want to laugh and cry at the same time. It happens to me sometimes in bad; when it does, I feel like I need a bullet to bite on.

  139. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    Tex was very angry. Stompin around, had to be restrained by the trainer, slammed his helmet. He shot a nasty look at Guthrie. I saw his arm and it didnt look like he was moving it, but I’m on mlb.tv and not paying great attention.

  140. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Ian O’ Connor? Eh…..

  141. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Worst case Tex fractured something and he’s out 6 weeks. Best case he has a bruise and is out 3-4 days.

    Even if he’s out for a long period Nick Johnson is a great 1B and Juan Miranda can play DH (or Jesus Montero :) )

  142. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    oh, and thanks for all of the kind updates, folks!

  143. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Cano has tried to be more patient this spring. I can’t remember when he’s had this many called 3rd strikes on close pitches in so few at bats.

  144. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    “Tex must be absolutely fed up with being HBP’d.”

    That’s what I was thinking as well watching his reaction to getting hit.

    Looked like he got hit on the funny bone and it was extremely painful.

    But there also almost looked to be an aspect of disgust in his reaction and it wasn’t because Guthrie was trying to hit him.

    Tex may need to start wearing some padding on his arm because that’s one place he keeps getting hit.

  145. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    I don’t even want to think about the worst case, but I am. I’m very nervous now…..

  146. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Betsy, yea that a terrible feeling too.. eat those bananas.

  147. Charlie Rose March 29th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    What’s taking so long? What f uc*ing millenium are we living in?

    I thought they have x-ray apps on iphones by now. So third world we are.

  148. Zach March 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    ESPN NY will have a dozen writers. Basically, they are trying to replace the local NY sports papers and make a sports page of their own. Makes sense, considering they already plucked 2 guys from local papers (O’Conner and Rubin).

  149. What! March 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Thx Nick.

    I had a good Cashman counter statement but I decided it was a bit too off-color. Something to do with “backdoor options still available”

  150. JCPD..... March 29th, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    Al
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    Why are the starters playing in the games so close to the regular season?

    I imagine because there aren’t that many non regulars left in camp, but mostly to satisfy the posters here that will be upset if the Yanks don’t end up being the spring training champions. :-)

  151. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Betsy

    Don’t be worried. Just hope for the best.

  152. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Bananas are good for leg cramps? I eat a banana every day actually. I only get those agonizing cramps when I’m trying to stretch and I stretch the wrong way.

  153. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    “I saw his arm and it didnt look like he was moving it, but I’m on mlb.tv and not paying great attention.”

    He was moving it ok when he was waling back into the clubhouse. At first he was bent over grabbing it. It was clearly very painful.

    But he started bending it back and forth some as went into the club house.

    Tex was mad but there’s no way Guthrie was throwing at him. I think he might have been upset because he has gotten hit so frequently over the past year.

  154. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    I’m hoping, CR….but this shows you just how fragile a season can be. At any moment, when you are least expecting it, boom ….

  155. B Ball March 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    If Tex is out a while, what about trying to bring back Melky? Plug him at 1st base, ATL doesn’t need him he is a 4th OF there.

  156. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Vaz is just gonna screw with hitters all year.

  157. blake March 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    “Bananas are good for leg cramps? ”

    Potassium.

  158. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Like i said, worst case he’s out 6 weeks maybe a bit more. And the good news is, the Yankees have able replacements for him. It’s not the end of the world if he fractured something.

  159. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    Left handed hitters have a lot of trouble staying balanced against Javy.

    That change is very good against lefties.

  160. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    except for Roberts right there.

  161. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    If Tex is out a while, what about trying to bring back Melky? Plug him at 1st base, ATL doesn’t need him he is a 4th OF there.

    Why?

  162. NYY626 March 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    didn’t alex have to start wearing extra padding last year because he kept getting hit?

  163. California March 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    “worst case he’s out 6 weeks”

    That’s not the worst case.

  164. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    “Why?”

    Clutch

  165. CB March 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Javy hung a curve ball to Roberts that he tatooed for a double.

    Javy’s curve ball hasn’t been great tonight in terms of sharpness and command.

    His curve has been much better on prior outings this spring.

  166. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    “That’s not the worst case.”

    Yes it is.

  167. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Worst case is that his arm falls off and he dies. Or develops a cavernous malformation in his triceps. If that happens then we shouldn’t even think about baseball for Tex. His family won’t be.

  168. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    NYY626
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    didn’t alex have to start wearing extra padding last year because he kept getting hit?

    *************************
    I think you’re right-I do remember something about that.

  169. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Remember Swish getting hit and the right elbow last season and I think it really hurt his swing for a while.

  170. becca March 29th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Guys, can we stop acting like the season’s over?

  171. ADam March 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    No news outta MASN yet…

  172. Ralph D'Ambrosio March 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    “Guys, can we stop acting like the season’s over?”

    i second this

  173. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Ricky
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
    Just an awful way to start the season
    Juan Miranda, come on down. Now we have 2 guys who can’t hit lefties – Miranda and Granderson.
    ====

    Miranda hit .291 vs. lefties last year, and had a better OPS vs. lefties than RHP.

  174. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Javy doesn’t have his best stuff tonight, could be a little ST dead arm or just a bad night. The thing I’m really optimistic he will provide this year is consistency even on his off nights. A guy that will grind it out and go deep in the game even when he is a bit. The Yankees need that tremendously.

  175. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    CB
    March 29th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    Javy hung a curve ball to Roberts that he tatooed for a double.

    Javy’s curve ball hasn’t been great tonight in terms of sharpness and command.

    His curve has been much better on prior outings this spring.

    ————————————————————

    It’s got to be a great feeling for a pitcher with great stuff, and then be able to use smoke and mirrors when necessary.

  176. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    So now we’re diagnosing Teix’s elbow without examining him?

  177. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    now Cervelli gets hit

  178. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Now cervelli gets hit by Guthrie right on his back forearm, jesus!!

  179. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    And he wings Cervelli on an inside pitch.

  180. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    Jeter is about to get hit

  181. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    “So now we’re diagnosing Teix’s elbow without examining him?”

    Well it either hit his bone and maybe fractured it or hit muscle and gave him a nasty bruise.

    The most likely scenario is he’ll be fine in a few days.

  182. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    I mean really – he’s not doing it on purpose (I would have to assume), but this might get ugly later on

  183. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    “It’s got to be a great feeling for a pitcher with great stuff, and then be able to use smoke and mirrors when necessary.”

    Thats often what separates the good ones from the rest. Who can find a way to get it done with what they have that night. Pettite is like that.

  184. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Spring training or not, Javy should plunk Roberts or something..

  185. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    The whole traditionalist vs. sabermatrician debate is an endless one.

    Eddie Murray who is sitting in on the booth with the O’s crew.

    Murray was asked about facing a pitcher like Vazquez who you can’t just “guess” what is going to be thrown. Murray was specifically asked about Adam Jones and what Jones needed to do to advance his offensive game.

    He said something that neatly gets at some important things underlying some of those endless arguments like OBP vs. BA, etc.

    I’m paraphrasing here but Murray basically said:

    All strikes aren’t good strikes. You have to be mentally strong enough to lay off and get your pitch.

    That gets at the heart of a lot of those debates.

  186. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    O’s going with the if you can’t beat them, hurt them approach tonight?

  187. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Okay – Girardi needs to pull his team and go home. (Only slightly kidding)

  188. teddy gbu March 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    as long as not intentional. giradri needs to calm down

  189. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Teams are throwing at us too much.

  190. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Rishi
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    I mean really – he’s not doing it on purpose (I would have to assume), but this might get ugly later on

    ***************************
    I know-I was thinking the same thing.

  191. jennifer March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    So now Cisco was hit.

  192. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    YankeesWFAN No news on Teixeira yet. Waiting for the word.
    50 seconds ago

  193. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    If Girardi is ticked off I guarantee you we’ll retaliate at some point tonight..

  194. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    “All strikes aren’t good strikes. You have to be mentally strong enough to lay off and get your pitch.”

    It’s been going on since the days of Branch Rickey (maybe before that).

  195. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Pitch trax showed that really low, but MASN is such a terrible network that I cant even see the plate. So whatever.

  196. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    “Javy doesn’t have his best stuff tonight, could be a little ST dead arm or just a bad night.”

    Some dead arm is a good thought. His fastball hasn’t had a lot of zip on it either.

  197. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Guthrie is taking over where Daniel Cabrera left off? Sweet.

  198. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    eboland11 Cervelli hit in what looked to be right forearm. After losing Teixeira earlier, clearly PO’d Girardi seen from dugout gesturing at Guthrie.

  199. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Beckett was throwing 90-91 in the first inning. Wonder what the Sox did to ruin him? Time to send him to the pen I guess.

  200. California March 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Bad sign it’s taking so long.

  201. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Are you kidding ? Where was Frankie hit? Seriously, pull the players, lol.

  202. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    As boring as it usually is, pitchers really need to bat.

  203. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    blake
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    “It’s got to be a great feeling for a pitcher with great stuff, and then be able to use smoke and mirrors when necessary.”

    Thats often what separates the good ones from the rest. Who can find a way to get it done with what they have that night. Pettite is like that.

    ————————————————————

    Pettitte’s one of the best at that. He’s a lot like a left handed Catfish Hunter. Ordinary stuff about half of the time, but, still knows how to win games. The 2009 PS is a great example.

  204. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    I don’t know how many pitches guthrie is scheduled for but it’s probably close to a full work load.

    Guthrie has very poor control tonight. Joe should consider pulling his starters early.

    Guthrie really doesn’t know where the ball is going and he keeps trying to come inside as pitchers will do in spring training just to try to work the inside.

  205. SJ44 March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Time for somebody on the O’s to get drilled. That will pit an end to it.

    Put Joba in to do it.

  206. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    I hope it’s not a bad sign that it’s taking so long and if Girardi is upset, good for him. He has every right to be.

  207. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    A-Rod needs to man up

  208. Charlie Rose March 29th, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    “Javy doesn’t have his best stuff tonight, could be a little ST dead arm or just a bad night.”
    Some dead arm is a good thought. His fastball hasn’t had a lot of zip on it either.

    =====================

    While we are at it. May be Javy has an injuries, too.

  209. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    “Beckett was throwing 90-91 in the first inning. Wonder what the Sox did to ruin him? Time to send him to the pen I guess.”

    Bucchholz was still throwing from the wrong arm slot yesterday after correcting that problem in the second half of last year.

    Buchholz ERA this spring is almost 10.

    Off to the pen with him!

  210. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Seriously – pull the players

  211. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Jesus, people…nobody is throwing at the Yankees.. The pitch to Teireia got away. Cervelli just didn’t get out of the way and it glanced off of his arm.

  212. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    “A-Rod needs to man up”

    Challenge Guthrie to a duel?

  213. teddy gbu March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    joba needs some work, let somebody else do it.

    if the hbp were not intentional, why does giradri get p*ssed

    is somewhat bushleague i think

  214. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    “Seriously – pull the players”

    Uh, no. You don’t run away from this stuff.

  215. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Pettite can maneuver his way through a lineup on nights without his A stuff as good as anybody.

    Guthrie never seems to know where its going. If there was a bull mascot he would hit it I imagine.

  216. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Would Joba shake off a retaliation pitch? :(

  217. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Hang tight guys. As soon as I hear anything re: Teixeira I’ll pass it along. #nyy
    about 1 minute ago

    Is it good or bad that it’s taking so long???

  218. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Yankee pitchers hit more batters last year than they have in years and were in the top 3 in the league.

  219. SJ44 March 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    You don’t need to pull the players. Just have payback. That stops it.

  220. Charlie Rose March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    This is why health care needs reform.

    40 minutes and counting. Still no news on Tex’s injury.

  221. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    “A-Rod needs to man up”

    Challenge Guthrie to a duel?

    Chase him with his bat

  222. becca March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    “Is it good or bad that it’s taking so long???”

    It’s probably that there are 500000000 people asking him about it!!!

  223. Trevor March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    It’s taking too long. That means bad news.

  224. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Rich, this is ST- what do you want to do, start a brawl?

  225. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    GB7,

    You’re right, he’s not intentionally throwing at the Yankees but he’s throwing inside. And if you screw up throwing inside, it deserves retaliation. Doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or not.

  226. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Guthrie isn’t trying to hit anyone but the problem is that he really doesn’t know where the ball is going but at the same time it looks like his spring training game plan was to work the inside part of the plate.

    Not a good combination.

    In the regular season a guy like Guthrie would not be trying to come in on the yankees as much as he has tonight. It looks like a process thing he’s just trying to work on tonight.

    It’s not a great combination for yankee hitters.

  227. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    “Bucchholz was still throwing from the wrong arm slot yesterday after correcting that problem in the second half of last year.”

    Do you think the Sox have picked up on this? I mean surely they have….

  228. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Trevor, I think so too. How hard is it to diagnose a bruise?

  229. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    “This is why health care needs reform.”

    Stop wasting bandwidth.

  230. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    “Time for somebody on the O’s to get drilled. That will pit an end to it.

    Put Joba in to do it.”

    Oh God no.

    We’ll have 3 days of discussions over how Joba used to have his “Youkilis head-hunter” pitch but it wasn’t properly developed by the Yanks hierarchy.

  231. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Haha I wouldn’t put Joba in to throw at someone. He tends to throw at people’s heads and I don’t want someone to die out there :P

  232. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    “Is it good or bad that it’s taking so long???”

    Don’t panic. They may not have the same level of medical equipment at a spring training facility.

  233. Pat M. March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Jerkface, I read your comments and attempt translation from my Saturday Night post…..As mentioned, I went to a Memorial to honor a dear friend who I golfed with for many years….After the services many of us hung out at The Club and proceeded to get hammered….In fact some of us ended up in Vegas that night…..My wife called me wanting to know what time to pick me up at the Club…Sweetheart I’m in Las Vegas don’t worry about picking me up……She was not very happy with me….Did hit the two basketball games though….I can’t even remember the point I was attempting to make in that post, because I have very little memory of even sending it…..

  234. Jramey March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Guthrie sucks. He obviously wasn’t trying to hit Cervelli and Tex but the little bastard did.

  235. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    “In the regular season a guy like Guthrie would not be trying to come in on the yankees as much as he has tonight. It looks like a process thing he’s just trying to work on tonight.”

    Who cares? It’s reckless and he shouldn’t be doing it.

  236. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Pat, good point. I’m really trying my best to be positive, but it’s not working.

  237. Charlie Rose March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Eye for an eye. I hope Youkilis gets drilled in the elbow tonight.

  238. Johnp March 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Is anybody looking for someone to join their fantasy baseball league?

    This is the first year I actually have the time to manage my team all year!

  239. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    blake,

    I could be completely wrong about Buchholz or it just could be bad camera angles.

    Unfortunately, there’s no pitch f/x data I can take a look at to look at his release point.

    That said I do think he’s throwing from a different arm slot than he was at the end of last year.

    And if that’s the case there is no chance that I’m seeing something that the Red Sox are not.

    If my observation is correct – they know.

    Just look at Clay’s head. He throws so over the top he has to jerk his head to the left to clear out space for his arm to come through.

    When he does it it’s pretty obvious and easy to see.

  240. whatever March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    say goodbye to the playoffs if Tex is injured and misses any amount of time.

  241. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    Remember when Joba was scary and threw 96-98 and always head hunted :(

    The problem is that Teixeira and A-rod were hit 20 times and they aren’t really ontop of the plate.

  242. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Guthrie is like a lot of pitchers over the last 20 years. They don’t know how to pitch inside because they don’t do ir often enough…because of over zealous umpires trying to be Kreskins.

  243. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    “Who cares? It’s reckless and he shouldn’t be doing it.”

    Huh? I don’t think he should be doing it as he has no clue where the ball is going.

    The yanks should brush back a few O’s hitters so Guthrie stops the spring training experimentation that’s endangering the yankee hitters.

    Intentional or not it’s clearly a problem.

  244. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    say goodbye to the playoffs if Tex is injured and misses any amount of time.

    Haha ok whatever you say

  245. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Joba has a drinking problem

  246. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    CB, I watched him yesterday and I noticed it too. Don’t know if I would have if I hadn’t read your posts about it, but it sure looks like the arm slot is different and he has looked bad this spring both in results and process.

  247. Moti-Mo March 29th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    “Seriously – pull the players”

    wow. some seriously clueless people in this thread.

  248. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Well, I’m not a fan of head-hunting; there is no place for that in the game

  249. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Remember when Joba was scary and threw 96-98 and always head hunted

    He will return to being that guy soon enough..

  250. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm

    Pat M: thanks a lot, I waited 5 hours for you in Costa Mesa!

  251. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Well, I’m not a fan of head-hunting; there is no place for that in the game

    —-

    True but there is a place in the game for retaliation.. below the neck

  252. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Don’t talk about yourself that way, Moti-Mo – I’m sure you’re not as bad as all that.

  253. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    “Huh? I don’t think he should be doing it as he has no clue where the ball is going.”

    Right, and that’s all that matters.

  254. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Weiters’ at bat is a perfect example of how to pitch inside. That had to be an uncomfortable walk for Weiters. Vazquez had two outs and a 4 run lead and threw him two chest high fastballs inside .

  255. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    If Javy hasn’t retalitated by now, he’s not going to. I wish it was AJ on the mound.

  256. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    If Javy hasn’t retalitated by now, he’s not going to. I wish it was AJ on the mound.

    Joba will. I hope.

  257. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    blake,

    Good to hear that you saw the same thing. His mechanics get so extreme that it’s pretty clear.

    His curve ball is better than it was last year as he can get more on top of it! There’s that.

    But man that fastball is flat with poor command. Slider is also not nearly as good.

    I didn’t watch much of the game. But it’s kind of strange to listen to the announcers are talking about how great he ended the game when he got 11 straight outs to end the game after another bad first two innings.

    He was still throwing the ball from a different slot. He just got outs on off speed stuff.

    Good luck with that in the regular season.

  258. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Right elbow contusion for Teixeira. Was seen by a doctor, but No x-rays were taken. Yankees will reevaluate tomorrow.
    half a minute ago via web

  259. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Ledger_Yankees

    Teixiera right elbow bruise; no X-Rays. #nyy

  260. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    YankeesWFAN Teixeira diagnosed with R elbow contusion (or a bruise). No xrays were taken. Will see how he is tomorrow for further evaluation.
    20 seconds ago

  261. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Pat M

    That post had me chuckling for hours after I read it the next morning.

    I kept thinking this is the 2010 version of drunk dialing.

  262. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    BloggingBombers Right elbow contusion for Teixeira. Was seen by a doctor, but No x-rays were taken. Yankees will reevaluate tomorrow.
    2 minutes ago via web

  263. Chad Jennings March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Teixeira has a right elbow contusion. No x-rays were taken. He will be reevaluated tomorrow.

  264. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Why didn’t Javy retaliate?

    Whew – that’s good news for Tex, though Swish had an elbow bruise and he struggled for a long time after getting hit.

  265. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    # Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Ledger_Yankees

    Teixiera right elbow bruise; no X-Rays. #nyy

    Man up Tex

  266. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    “If Javy hasn’t retalitated by now, he’s not going to. I wish it was AJ on the mound.”

    You are mistaken. If Javy is going to retaliate he’ll do it when he’s close to his pitch count..

  267. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    LOL we were all refreshing twitter at the same time..

  268. becca March 29th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Does Teixeira have a right elbow contusion and were X-Rays taken? Will he be reevaluated tomorrow?

  269. B Ball March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Bring Royce Ring out of the BP for some retaliation.

    Let him throw one of his side-winding submarine balls right at their ribs

  270. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Patrick, I hope so; I don’t believe Javy is a wimp and boy, I want to send a message to those O’s.

  271. teddy gbu March 29th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    hopefully he be ok

  272. whatever March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    so we have to wait a whole day to find out if his arm is broken? GREAT JUST GREAT! I AM NOT SLEEPING TONIGHT!

  273. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Now I can relax………and go listen to the Cash interview again.

  274. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Tex was actively flexing his arm at the elbow when he walked into the dugout. You don’t do that if you’ve broken your elbow.

    Getting hit on the funny bone is just extremely painful and that what he looked like.

    He’ll be fine overall.

    This unfortunately could affect his hitting some to start the season. Given that tex gets off to poor starts he didn’t really need anything physically affecting his swing.

    Hopefully the contusion isn’t too bad.

  275. Arno March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    What exactly is a contusion? Good? Bad? Someone break this down further for me please!

  276. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    so we have to wait a whole day to find out if his arm is broken? GREAT JUST GREAT! I AM NOT SLEEPING TONIGHT!

    —–

    Smoke a blunt

  277. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    interesting watching ben mc donald get interviewed.

    for about ten days had a locker next to ben in orioles spring training.

    he was totally a great guy. he thought it was hilarious that i was danny boone’s personal catcher because no one wanted to catch his knuckleball.

    i wasn’t on the team, didn’t get paid, and frank robinson hated the idea of danny boone being his closer.

    so i knew it was going to be short lived , but definitely a fun experience.

    when i look back that was a really strange thing for the orioles to do putting a catcher in there with no connection to the team.

  278. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    CB, yea it was pretty noticeable and as you said it could be the camera angle but it sure doesn’t look like it. His fastball did look really flat. No life whatsoever. I find it hard to believe the Sox would have made that change so maybe it just bad habit creeping back with him.

  279. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    OK, I feel better now. lol

  280. antisocial scrooge March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    a contusion is just a bruise.

  281. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    When they say they’ll reevaluate tomorrow, what does that mean? That they’ll determine tomorrow how long he’ll be out? They didn’t take x-rays tonight; does that mean they don’t think they are necessary?

  282. SJ44 March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Guess it’s not season ending. Bad news for Red Sox trolls wishing for worse.

    Just have Joba do it. He lives for that stuff. Drill two guys and get it over with.

    That puts the O’s on notice the nonsense won’t be tolerated during the season.

  283. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Yanks should just sit Tex for the rest of Spring training, maybe the rest will give his arm enough time to heal.

  284. Chad Jennings March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    For whatever it’s worth, I can’t imagine retaliation in a situation like this. It’s spring training. Guthrie wasn’t hitting anyone on purpose and the Yankees know it. Doesn’t mean Girardi can’t get upset about it, but there’s no sense hitting one of the Orioles.

  285. whatever March 29th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Girardi needs to stop playing his regs this last week, we cannot afford injuries.. JUST BENCH THEM ALL!

  286. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “I wish it was AJ on the mound.”

    Many a game where AJ has far less of a clue where the ball is going than Guthrie does tonight.

    AJ hit more batters last year than any other pitcher in baseball last year as I remember.

    Could be part of why so many yankee hitters got nailed last year.

  287. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Arno
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    What exactly is a contusion?

    ************************
    It’s a fancy word for a bruise.

  288. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Take out Javy please

  289. Joe from Long Island March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    GB – I’m not watching the game (have MLB covering the Sox-Rays). If Vazquez really threw two inside, chest high FBs to Wieter, I think the message about pitching inside has been delivered.

    I don’t think you need to hit someone to send the message that you don’t appreciate the lack of control.

  290. teddy gbu March 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    if they weren’t hit on purpose, giradri has no grip.

    if yanks would reliate, it would mean giradri a fool with a temper. in fact is would br bushleague

  291. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    CB, that’s true……..but AJ also protects his teammates. I’m not saying Javy isn’t like that, but remember when Padilla hit Tex?

  292. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Every year some crap team decides they want to prove themselves against the Yanks. One year it was the Rays running over Cervelli so they can beat their chests and say they play hard every day. This year it’s the Orioles showing how “tough” they are by throwing inside. Put Joba in to buzz Roberts and Markakis so they know this crap doesn’t fly

  293. Arno March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Phew, thanks for the translation!

  294. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Also, Yankee hitters are always getting hit, way before AJ joined the team.

  295. Jramey March 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Javy is laboring

  296. B Ball March 29th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    So right elbow contusion means what… day to day? out 2 weeks? out 2 months?

  297. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    IMO now, it’s downright ridiculous to flip out when you don’t know what’s happening.

    Does everyone remember when Joba got hit once? I swear to God we had three straight days of everyone in the world KNOWING that he was going to be out for the season. This despite Girardi saying he didn’t think it was going to be anything major because of the range of motion Joba had. This place was nonstop panic, inability to breathe, and grim reapersville. You would have thought that people gave birth to Joba. I of course suggested that people wait until they knew what was going on and reminded them of what Girardi said. In one ear and out the other.

    Joba was fine.

    Tex is going to be fine or he isn’t. He’s not dead. If he’s not fine the Yankees will deal with it. Can we please stop the drama?

  298. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    And I bet ya that coonskin hat stunk to high hell in the Baltimore summer.

  299. becca March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    “So right elbow contusion means what…”

    it’s a bruise, nothing to freak out about

  300. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    That ball was hit well.

  301. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    If I recall, Javy started his off-season workouts earlier than the rest of the Yankee pitchers (who started later than usual due to their heavy workload), so he could be feeling the effects now

  302. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Hung that one.

  303. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    “It’s spring training. Guthrie wasn’t hitting anyone on purpose and the Yankees know it.”

    That really doesn’t matter. It’s reckless. If you can’t throw inside without hitting someone, don’t throw inside.

  304. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    “His fastball did look really flat. No life whatsoever. I find it hard to believe the Sox would have made that change so maybe it just bad habit creeping back with him.”

    That’s not the Sox. That’s Clay. They intentionally sent him down and changed his slot. Made him a much better pitcher.

    It’s funny too because over and over you hear that part of why Buchholz has such a high upside is because he’s such a premium athlete. Fastest guy in the organization, pinch runner extrodinaire, etc.

    But even with his plus atheleticism old habits seem to be coming back after the off season and he doesn’t appear to be able to repeat the delivery he worked on last year.

    Don’t hear anyone killing the sox coaching staff for what his clearly a mechanical problem either.

    Instead in boston their attributing it to Clay not being mentally tough enough, nibbling, etc… the usual.

  305. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Joba should plunk the guy in the on-deck circle, that’ll put the fear into all of them.

  306. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    As long as Javy is healthy, the game means nothing….he’s probably just a bit tired now.

  307. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    “For whatever it’s worth, I can’t imagine retaliation in a situation like this. It’s spring training. Guthrie wasn’t hitting anyone on purpose and the Yankees know it. Doesn’t Girardi can’t get upset about it, but there’s not sense hitting one of the Orioles.”

    Chad, welcome to irrationality. Get used to it.

  308. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Didn’t the Yankees change Phil’s arm slot to go more over the top – but then last year he went back to his old 3/4 slot?

  309. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Joba should plunk the guy in the on-deck circle, that’ll put the fear into all of them.

    —-

    Joke or not, that would be hysterical

  310. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Joe from Long Island
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    GB – I’m not watching the game (have MLB covering the Sox-Rays). If Vazquez really threw two inside, chest high FBs to Wieter, I think the message about pitching inside has been delivered.

    I don’t think you need to hit someone to send the message that you don’t appreciate the lack of control.

    ————————————————————

    It takes a veteran pitcher to deliver a message without upsetting the opposition. The next time he has to deliver a message, there will be a stamp on it.

  311. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    “Javy is laboring”

    Yeah he is. This is just one of those late spring training games. Blake called it before with the dead arm. More and more that’s what it looks like.

    Change is great – but that’s obviously soft. Javy’s other stuff hasn’t looked crisp.

    And he’s now hanging that curve ball somewhat frequently with the wind blowing out.

    This is a spring training game where the outcome really doesn’t matter.

    Javy just needs to get his work in to build his arm strength.

  312. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    “Somebody joked to Johnson that he should race Brett Gardner, prompting somebody else to ask whether Johnson gets challenged to races by athletes at his academy. Johnson said he gets asked to race people all the time, but instead of politely declining, he teaches them a lesson.

    “I go out and kick their (butt),” Johnson said.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....z0jcFzsdwM

  313. Erin March 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
    Joba should plunk the guy in the on-deck circle, that’ll put the fear into all of them.

    *******************************
    :lol:

  314. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    “Does everyone remember when Joba got hit once? I swear to God we had three straight days of everyone in the world KNOWING that he was going to be out for the season.”

    not that cashman overreacted or anything making everyone think that.

    just because he brought up wang too soon cutting short his rehab and then not being able to send him back to the minors because of the injury rules when joba didn’t miss his start doesn’t mean he overreacted.

  315. Jack March 29th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    contusion = bruise.

  316. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Javy just got boned by the ump on a nice breaker

  317. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    “Didn’t the Yankees change Phil’s arm slot to go more over the top – but then last year he went back to his old 3/4 slot?”

    No. This is what rumor mongering internet posters have convinced themselves of.

    Pat M himself has said Hughes throws now almost exactly like he did in high school.

    He looked the same way that first game he pitched in the majors.

    It’s remarkable how these rumors about Hughes get started and will not die.

  318. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    “Chad, welcome to irrationality. Get used to it.”

    OK, thanks. Your opinion is rational and anyone who disagrees with you is irrational Gotcha.

  319. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Johnson should have replied:

    “I have as many stolen bases this spring as Gardner does.”

  320. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    “And he’s now hanging that curve ball somewhat frequently with the wind blowing out.”

    cb-

    you’d think his curveball would move even more going into the wind.

    maybe it’s not as much of a factor at the plate in that stadium.

  321. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Betsy,

    Just to clarify my last post – I was not suggesting that you were spreading these rumors. I know you were just trying to clarify.

  322. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    “No. This is what rumor mongering internet posters have convinced themselves of”

    I wouldn’t call it a rumor. I think it’s a misreading of video. There are sites that have put up side-by-side videos which they believe demonstrates there has been a difference. I have never saw what they claim to be a variation in arm slot.

  323. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    No, posters who flip out without having information are irrational. Posters who automatically look for retribution without really knowing whether intent was there are irrational. If you fit into either school, you are irrational.

    And yes indeed I am rational. There are a few of us here.

  324. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Javy hasn’t had his best stuff and has missed a lot of spots especially with his offspeed stuff tonight but guess what..he’s still up 5-4. If he hangs in there in games like this then he’ll get a lot of wins he’s not used to getting on this team.

  325. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    randy,

    Good point. It looks like the wind is swirling and more of an issue in the outfield.

    Javy just looks tired tonight. It happens.

    I’m so impressed with his change up.

  326. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Intent is not always relevant on the diamond.

  327. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    ” Posters who automatically look for retribution without really knowing whether intent was there are irrational. If you fit into either school, you are irrational.”

    Thanks for the laugh.

    “And yes indeed I am rational. There are a few of us here.”

    Again.

  328. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    trisha,

    You aren’t understanding that regardless of intent, if a pitcher screws up throwing inside, it still warrants some sort of retaliation.

  329. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    “I wouldn’t call it a rumor. I think it’s a misreading of video. ”

    The rumor part was that the yankees intentionally changed Hughes mechanics. The yankees became the “cause” of a “change” that didn’t exist.

    An awful piece of analytic work by Carlos Gomez produced a poor conclusion to which fans all over the internet attributed active mismanagement by the team as being the cause of.

  330. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    I know, CB – I’ve never seen anything like it. People swear that he threw 96 in the minors, so now they are disappointed with him now. Yet – they don’t believe Phil when he says he never threw that hard. I believe Pat – and so Phil obviously had some very good instruction at a young age.

  331. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    trisha,

    I guess Cashman did not get the memo that Joba was fine last year.

    You should send him an e-mail and let him know to be patient with Tex before going out and trading the farm for Adrian Gonzalez.

  332. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    “If he hangs in there in games like this then he’ll get a lot of wins he’s not used to getting on this team.”

    Yankee games start in after the 6th inning. The way this offense is going to destroy bull pens is going to be a big boon to a guy like Javy who gives a team a lot of length.

  333. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    No but sometimes the situation at hand and the conditions in the stadium can give you a pretty good indication. And by the way, the last thing Guthrie is known as is someone who goes after hitters. If you know anything about his background you could probably imagine that they weren’t intent pitches.

    Chad saying that he doesn’t believe they were is also helpful.

  334. SJ44 March 29th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Doesn’t matter if it was intentional or not.

    If you can’t be responsible to throw inside without hitting guys, don’t do it.

    If you do, don’t cry if one of your guys gets hit later in the game.

    There are certain baseball “rules” in ST. One is, don’t throw inside if you have no command.

    All that often accomplishes is one of your own guys gets hurt in retailiation.

    Joba could score some teammate points tonight. Hopefully, he does what he knows he needs to do and that’s have his teammates backs.

  335. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    CB, no problem – I didn’t take it that way. Gomez used to post occasionally at NYYFans and, well – he insisted that Phil’s mechanics had changed and he was the worse for them. Hmm, he fit in right there, lol. He stopped posting there after he went to work for the Diamondbacks.

  336. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    That’s a funny little snippet about Michael Johnson vs Brett Gardner.

    I know Johnson is a world class sprinter but he’s 42 now, there’s no way Gardner would lose to him in a race.

  337. pat March 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Boras must have called Tex for Heyman…..

    SI_JonHeyman mark teixeira’s ok, just sore, after being hit by pitch today.

  338. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    ” And by the way, the last thing Guthrie is known as is someone who goes after hitters. If you know anything about his background you could probably imagine that they weren’t intent pitches.”

    It’s irrelevant. You’re flat out wrong.

  339. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    I forgot Joba was pitching tonight…….but will his teammates be disappointed in Javy?

  340. CB March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    The pitches may not have been intentional on an individual basis, but the strategy was.

    Guthrie was just getting practice in working the inside part of the plate.

    He tried coming in on Cano down 3-1 in the count. Now he missed his spot and left the ball out over the plate.

    But the catcher was set up inside.

    No chance Guthrie is going to try to come inside on a guy with Cano’s bat speed down 3-1 in the regular season.

    But if he can’t control his stuff inside in spring training he shouldn’t be throwing there.

  341. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Way to go Winfree

  342. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Wind free

  343. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    One of the biggest advantages a pitcher can have is being comfortable throwing inside knowing there will be no repercussion if one gets away from him.

    It does not matter if it was intentional. Guthrie needs to know that next time he should think twice before throwing inside when he has no control of the ball.

  344. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    patrick, I don’t agree at all. So any time one of our guys may be wild, the opposition pitcher should plunk one of our hitters? I don’t like retaliation at all. Leave to the umpire to give warnings.

  345. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    The most recent thing Guthrie is known for is plunking two Yankees.

  346. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    It doesn’t matter about intent; most pitchers trying to pitch inside aren’t trying to hit and injure another player. No one is saying throw at the head of another player, but it’s important for teams to realize there are consequences to pitching that far insider.

  347. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Patrick
    March 29th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    That’s a funny little snippet about Michael Johnson vs Brett Gardner.
    I know Johnson is a world class sprinter but he’s 42 now, there’s no way Gardner would lose to him in a race.
    ===

    LOL. Thought it was Nick Johnson. Who has as many SB this ST as Brett. They have one apiece.

  348. blake March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    I love watching Arod hit.

  349. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    trisha,

    Girls don’t get it :) It’s a guy thing okay?

  350. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Winfree as Wally Pipp? ;)

  351. SJ44 March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Actually, that’s not true. Guthrie is a pink and he likes to pitch inside. He’s not real popular with his teammates.

    That’s ok but, on March nights when you have no command, it’s probably wise to stop before one of your teammates get hurt.

  352. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    LGY – it wasn’t last year.

  353. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    What did Winfree do?

  354. B Ball March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Very disappointed in Javy for not retaliating.

    We have to have a 24 yr old kid do it instead?

  355. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    “So any time one of our guys may be wild, the opposition pitcher should plunk one of our hitters? I don’t like retaliation at all.”

    Yup, if they want to do it, it’s understandable. That’s fine, but it’s part of the game.

  356. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Rishi
    March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    Winfree as Wally Pipp?

    ============

    Rather, was Tex getting Pipped, you know what I mean :)

  357. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Patrick, I’m a girl, lol. It’s definitely NOT a girl thing, I promise you that.

  358. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    trisha,

    Joba got hit with a line drive last year.

  359. CB March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    “I didn’t take it that way. Gomez used to post occasionally at NYYFans and, well – he insisted that Phil’s mechanics had changed and he was the worse for them.”

    He did? I had no idea. That explains it. I don’t read that site at all.

    That article on the hard ball times drove me crazy. Gomez seemed to be writing it to get attention and he got it.

    That really helped start the avalanche of articles on the internet using video to point out the myriad of flaws in a pitcher’s mechanics and decree that he is destined to be injured.

    That was one of those articles that makes “analytic” work in baseball look horrible and points out many of it’s limitations – limitations that aren’t identified nearly often enough.

  360. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    I think SJ meant that Guthrie’s a punk, but I like him as a pink just as well, lol.

  361. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Betsy,

    Scroll up, Chad made an update

  362. Ralph D'Ambrosio March 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    “Very disappointed in Javy for not retaliating.

    We have to have a 24 yr old kid do it instead?”

    LOL…this is wrong on so many levels….

  363. 66 stripes March 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Since Vazquez didn’t do it… Joba needs to take it on himself to show his teammates he has their back.

    Someone has to right? Vazquez was too afraid to. Joba needs to man up and do it.

  364. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    “Patrick, I’m a girl, lol. It’s definitely NOT a girl thing, I promise you that.”

    I was just joking. Honestly, I said that so I didn’t have to get in an argument with trisha, she’s relentless.

  365. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Thanks, Patrick!

    Winfree hasn’t been bad at all; I hope he goes down to AAA and has a good year. Winfree and Golson have been ok…

  366. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “He did? I had no idea. That explains it. I don’t read that site at all.”

    That’s why I said it’s not a rumor.

  367. Horace Clarke March 29th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    I can’t believe this mob mentality with retaliation against the O’s. Okay- Joba plunks one or even two O’s, then the benches clear and a more serious injury happens to one of the regulars and you might even have suspensions to start the season.

    Stick with a contusion, move on and keep it in the memory banks.

  368. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    LOL Patrick………got it.

    Letting the umpires deal with anything is usually the wrong way, lol.

  369. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    “Guthrie is a pink and he likes to pitch inside.”

    That’s what they said about Ricky Martin too!

  370. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    There is no reason for having Javy do it and risk get suspended.

    Let Joba do it. He sucks anyway now that the Yankees ruined him. :lol:

  371. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Interesting SJ because I hear the opposite about Guthrie and his teammates.

  372. Tim March 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Joba is trying to earn his manager’s truet as the 8th inning guy. So is Robertson. Ring is trying to earn a spot on the team.

    I’d imagine retaliation is the furthest thing from their minds, trying to impress their manager is.

    Javy was the one who should have done it but he refused to.

  373. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Why don’t you idiots go read a book and stop obsessing about things so meaningless.

  374. Trevor March 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Too bad Aubrey Huff isn’t still with the O’s. Perfect one to plunk.

  375. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    “I can’t believe this mob mentality with retaliation against the O’s. Okay- Joba plunks one or even two O’s, then the benches clear and a more serious injury happens to one of the regulars and you might even have suspensions to start the season.

    Stick with a contusion, move on and keep it in the memory banks.”

    Seriously.

  376. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    “I know Johnson is a world class sprinter but he’s 42 now, there’s no way Gardner would lose to him in a race.”

    patrick-

    i would think gardner might beat him on how fast they could both steal second or from first to third going around corners, but in a 100 meter race gardner would get smoked.

    … and 42 isn’t that old.

  377. Bald Eagle March 29th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Fear of getting suspended is a cop out. Burnett took his suspension. Joba took his suspension in the past. Farnsworth took his suspension.

    Be a man and hit the guy. Do you want your teammates to think you don’t have their back? Trust me, the one extra day rest (aka suspension) is worth it for clubhouse cred.

  378. CB March 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Guthrie’s out of the game. It’s fine. He was the guy who was creating a dangerous situation for yankee hitters.

  379. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    “I can’t believe this mob mentality”

    Yeah, it’s a mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  380. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    I’m listening to the Cash interview again and Michael Kay is still annoying.

  381. CR9 March 29th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    A contusion is just a bruise, right?

    This is a good sign, right?

  382. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Pitchforks and torches, lol…….yep.

  383. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Yeah, it’s a mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    —————————-

    An irrational mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  384. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Can a mob be rational?

  385. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Betsy–go do the dishes

  386. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    “I was just joking. Honestly, I said that so I didn’t have to get in an argument with trisha, she’s relentless.”

    patrick-

    is it rational of trisha for her to think she’s rational ?

  387. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    I’m sorry? Go do the dishes? Ugh……..You do realize this is the 2010′s and not the 1010′s. Oh heavens, I should be barefoot and pregnant, shouldn’t I?

  388. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    For a world class athlete 42 is pretty old.

    I don’t know how the guy has aged but I have to think Gardner’s sprinting ability is up there with the best.

    I don’t think either of us can say for sure which guy would win but it’d be a ton of fun to watch

  389. Al March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Alex Rodriguez singles on a ground ball to left fielder Nolan Ryan. Two out.

  390. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    92 mph from joba, leadoff single linedrive off jeter’s glove as he jumped up to try and snag it

  391. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    “is it rational of trisha for her to think she’s rational ? ”

    la la la I can’t hear you

  392. deer park March 29th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    “Betsy–go do the dishes”

    lmao

  393. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    cheeses, Joba’s giving up hard contact this Spring.

  394. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Now Nolan Ryan would be old for an active athlete, lol

  395. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Betsy–just trying to encourage you to be a little productive. You’re not productive here, because you know nothing about baseball. I like to help others.

  396. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    patrick, I think I’d rather go with the opinion of females here who are not known for bridge jumping, no offense Betsy. If someone comes unhinged when a Yankee gets hit, I don’t know if I trust that person’s idea of what should happen next.

    Sorry, I’m with the people here who think that retaliation in this case is probably not the answer. And patrick if I’m relentless good God almighty I have plenty of company here. At least I’m not relentlessly knee jerk or relentlessly negative. (generic statements not personal since they fit a lot of the posters here.)

  397. Danny Boy March 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Joba has looked like garbage this spring.

    I don’t think the people who wanted him to be the long man have anything to be worried about – that is where he is headed.

    Joe isin’t going to use this version of Joba over Robertsion, Marte, or Park.

  398. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    NICE K!

  399. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    First help yourself before you try and help other people, choochoo

  400. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    89 mph from Joba, Guthrie’s velocity looked normal, so this is annoying.

    92
    92
    ?
    89
    90
    91
    91
    86 <– this was a nice looking slider, got a weak swing.

  401. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    trisha,

    The relentless comment was meant as a compliment.

    And once again, I’m not going to argue with you. It’s real simple, the unwritten rule of baseball is if you hit one of my guys, we hit one of yours. It’s just how it is. Intentions don’t even enter into the equation.

  402. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Um, I’m not supposed to take offense to that Trisha? Just saying “no offense” doesn’t give you a free pass. However, I’m not in the mood to argue with anyone tonight, so I’m going to drop it.

  403. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    This is a quote from choochoo about how we should evaluate Gardner

    “he’s also a .000 World Series lifetime hitter. That might mean something.”

    And Betsy knows nothing about baseball :roll:

  404. Al March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    ehh… with that velocity, Joba is not going to be much help out of the pen. He was touching 94 as a starter in just his 2nd start. Now throwing max effort he is topping out at 92?

  405. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    patrick again thank you.

  406. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Thames!

    btw, HBPing people is not about justice. It is about accounting.

  407. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    LGY–your point?

  408. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Thames just took a righty deep and pulled a pitch in the other batter’s box.

  409. Rocco March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    K. Long said he thinks Gardner could steal 100, score 65-70, and hit .270 from the 9-hole.

    That is high praise from Long

  410. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    “I don’t know how the guy has aged but I have to think Gardner’s sprinting ability is up there with the best.”

    patrick-

    al kidding aside, i don’t think the fastest baseball players can compete with world class sprinters.

    i could be wrong , but i think olympic sprinting speed is another animal.

  411. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    LGY, you know that old song The Lions sleep Tonight? Well, instead it’s the Trolls are out Tonight. This guy is awful – he’s a terrible troll.

  412. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    choochoo
    March 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    Betsy–just trying to encourage you to be a little productive. You’re not productive here, because you know nothing about baseball. I like to help others.

    ————————————————————

    Jesus….your thought processes and people skills are as screwed up as a soup sandwich.

  413. blake March 29th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    choochoo,

    awe is that your favorite toy..how cute.

  414. Ralph D'Ambrosio March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    why do people think joba is “throwing max effort”?

    hes clearly not….we’ve seen him throw “max effort” and you can see the force he generates…that is not what hes doing now…lets see him when the season starts and it actually counts..

  415. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    patrick, thank you for the compliment. Sometimes the written word doesn’t translate well.

  416. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    choochoo
    March 29th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    LGY–your point?

    —————————-

    That you are the dumbest poster on here, which is quite a feat considering some of the stuff that “whatever” has said in recent weeks.

  417. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    “la la la I can’t hear you”

    you’re getting smart in your old age :)

  418. blake March 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    Once Johnson got planed out his strides are likely about 2 of Gardner’s. Gardner may win in a 40 but anything farther than that I really doubt it unless Johnson has really let himself go.

  419. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    GReen Beret–did you really kill 17 Czech Rebels on the Sopranos?

  420. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

    No tests planned for TEx

  421. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Double digits!

  422. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Betsy,

    What are you doing in my apartment!

  423. CB March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    “i would think gardner might beat him on how fast they could both steal second or from first to third going around corners, but in a 100 meter race gardner would get smoked.”

    The fastest home to first time every recorded I believe is still Mickey Mantle’s 3.1 seconds.

    I think Ichiro home to first is around 3.7 seconds.

    Let’s say Gardner is much faster than Ichiro but not quite Mantle at his best.

    Let’s say Gardner has historically great baseball speed and is home to first in 3.3 seconds.

    Let’s assume that Gardner could run flat out for 200 meters and not tire at all or lose any speed – that he could run his 200 meters at that same 3.3 second/90 feet rate.

    This of course is a completely unrealistic expectation as over 200 meters everyone tires and needs to pace themselves. Also, home to first is a straight line – no curve.

    With these completely unrealistic expectations Gardner could run 200 meters in 24.3 seconds.

    In his prime Johnson ran the 200 meters in 19.8.

    That’s how enormous the gulf is between baseball fast and world class fast.

    Under more realistic assumptions Gardner would probably run the 200 in closer to 27 seconds.

    42 or not if Johnson stays in shape and still semi-trains I wouldn’t feel real good about Brett’s chances on a track.

  424. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    I think Thames is solidifying his spot on the roster.

  425. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    LGY — I don’t think you’re that dumb. I just think you’re incredibly stupid, and know less than pregnant Betsy and barefooted Tricia

  426. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    If Gardner trained for sprinting, he could probably crack some world competition teams. He isn’t going to be the A guy for the US in the olympics though.

    His 100m time is a second slower than Johnson’s though.

  427. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    “And once again, I’m not going to argue with you. It’s real simple, the unwritten rule of baseball is if you hit one of my guys, we hit one of yours. It’s just how it is. Intentions don’t even enter into the equation.”

    patrick this is not totally true because there have been MANY occasions when Yankee hitters have gotten hit and nothing has happened and later the Yankee pitcher and/or Girardi will say they knew it wasn’t intentional. So they are classy and intelligent enough not to retaliate. I think you really have to look at the situation. They apparently do. And there have been times when Yankee pitchers have hit batters and nothing has happened in return. Not every hit batter is an automatic signal for retaliation. I know that you know that’s true.

  428. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 29th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Betsy,

    Winfree is almost stating his case too to Girardi. He’s making it tough for Girardi to decide.

  429. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    is also***

  430. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    “I think Thames is solidifying his spot on the roster.”

    I hope both Thames and Winn prove me wrong in the regular season…over and over and over again.

  431. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    here’s the deal on retaliation.

    if sj44 has some inside info that the yankees also have and know guthrie doesn’t care about going in when he knows he has no clue in there, then retaliation might be in order.

    there’s another factor. didn’t palmer mention bruse kison working with guthrie on something at the beginning of the broadcast ? i just heard the tail end of it.

    anyway, i loved bruce as a pitcher, but he’d hit someone if they blinked at him. if he’s instructing guthrie, guthrie hitting someone on purpose or being wild inside on purpose is not out of the question.

    sitting in the bullpen , i once watched bruce drill a guy in the middle of a game out of the blue over a beef years earlier. bruce was a very tough no nonsense guy.

    so should there be retaliation ?

    maybe.

  432. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Guy was an interior decorator!

  433. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    I think back in his early 20′s if Randy Moss had trained for the Olympics instead of football he would have done what Bolt is doing now.

  434. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Listen to that smart Tricia cite the unwritten rules of baseball. Stay tuned tomorrow for a seminar on the infield fly rule, the ground rules at Fenway Park, and why Brett Gardner will get outsmarted again this year by Joe Maurer.

  435. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Ed, I think Thames’ experience will win the day, but I’m sure Winfree at some point will get a call up.

    Rich, I hope they prove you wrong again and again as well.

  436. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    UPDATE, 9:24 p.m.: Speaking of power, Marcus Thames just hit his second home run of the spring and the Yankees have a 9-4 lead in the seventh. Joba Chamberlain got the final two outs of the sixth, but there’s no stadium radar gun here in Sarasota, so I have no idea how hard he was throwing.

    UPDATE, 9:26 p.m.: Fair question from our pal Sweeny Murti: When’s the last time a catcher had a stolen base and an infield single in the same game? Francisco Cervelli has pulled it off tonight.

  437. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    “patrick this is not totally true because there have been MANY occasions when Yankee hitters have gotten hit and nothing has happened and later the Yankee pitcher and/or Girardi will say they knew it wasn’t intentional. So they are classy and intelligent enough not to retaliate. I think you really have to look at the situation. They apparently do. And there have been times when Yankee pitchers have hit batters and nothing has happened in return. Not every hit batter is an automatic signal for retaliation. I know that you know that’s true.”

    Are you serious?

    Trying to read someone else’s mind is to embark on a slippery slope.

    When a manager says there was no intent, it usually means the score was too close to retaliate this time, but we’ll look for a opportunity to get him back in the future.

    Seriously, you can think whatever you want, but when you judge other people, you are out of line.

  438. Matt March 29th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    You guys are NUTS…gardner and moss would be elite track athletes? gardner would be avg at best track runner

    you think he could even make an olympic team? absolutely not. i ran track in HS and college and ran the 100m in 10.31 and that was good for state champ in the state of NJ. Gardner probably runs around that or a little slower.. i also ran a 4.39 40 and randy moss ran a 4.2 but that doesnt mean randy moss can break 10 seconds in the 100

  439. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Actually I take it back, if you convert Gardner’s supposed college 60m time of 6.26 to 100m he is right around Johnson’s olympic time. It might be a more even matchup than people think :)

    I’d like to see that race!

  440. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    100 m: 10.09 <– johnsons time, fast!

  441. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    • Asked how Phil Hughes did this spring, one Yankees person said, “Not bad for the guy who came in third” in the competition for the No. 5 starter. Some Yankees people believe Alfredo Aceves and Sergio Mitre actually outpitched both Hughes and Joba Chamberlain. But Hughes was the correct choice for the rotation. Long-term, he’ll be the best of the group. Joba will be the set-man, although the Yankees aren’t admitting that yet.

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  442. stuckey (knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I understand Brett Gardner has lost 3.5 mph on is speed from 1st to 3rd.

    Brian Cashman must be held accountable

  443. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Thats’ gotta be one of the best episodes. And directed by Steve Buscemi.

  444. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    blake,

    Michael Johnson was actually known as running upright with a short stride – very unorthodox running style.

    I’ll say this, Gardner would win a 40 yard dash (in my opinion) but Johnson would probably win a longer race. This is keeping in mind that runners don’t get to full speed when only running 40 yards. Gardner’s age and fast acceleration would be working for him whereas in a longer race Johnson’s top speed would probably be faster than Gardner’s.

  445. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    No offense, but it’s hardly a stretch to say Phil will be better than Mitre or Aceves, lol. This Yankee person is very likely not someone who is trusted with important duties.

  446. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Congrats to the Rays, the best team in ST….

  447. blake March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    “Michael Johnson was actually known as running upright with a short stride – very unorthodox running style.”

    as compared to other Olympic level sprinters..not Brett Gardner.

  448. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Joba is a set-man?

    Is that like being a made-man? Maybe the Mob is making him throw games.

  449. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    The best episodes if you like packets of ketchup, relish, tic tacs, torn carpet for shoes, and Bobby Bacala playing the part of Elmer Fudd.

  450. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    SJ I think your scouts got it wrong on Guthrie. From everything I’ve ever read he is the antithesis of a punk (I actually did think you meant pink and figured you were making a statement on his politics, duh) and extremely supportive of his teammates.

    If you have information to the opposite I would certainly be interested in reading it. Otherwise I think you’ve got your pinks mixed up.

    :)

  451. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    A ***young*** Bernie Williams was world cl@ss fast.

  452. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Yeah I’m going with Rich on this one.

    If a pitch legitimately gets away from a pitcher then there is not much cause to retaliate. However, Guthrie was making a concerted effort to throw inside tonight and 2 of his mistakes hit our players. It’s fine if you pitch inside, but if you do that and screw up then you are held accountable. It was pretty obvious tonight that Guthrie wanted to throw inside and didn’t much care if he hit a guy (or 2 in this case). That’s plenty of reason for retaliation..

  453. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Ledger_YankeesTeixeira: “I should be fine.” #nyy
    1 minutes ago via TweetDeck

  454. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    If Moss was just fast and not good enough to play a real sport, he could have trained up in track and set all sorts of records. He’s naturally fast. Deion could have done the same thing. Darrell Green as well. They were all just too good at real sports to have to take the track route.

  455. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Betsy—do you have tomorrow’s lunches made? Get crackin.

  456. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    We really did dodge a bullet…

  457. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    The Bears used to have a player named Willie Gault who was considered to have Olympic-type speed….He was on the 1985 Super Bowl champs.

  458. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    But is SJ44 irrational?

    And what is the intent?

  459. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Trisha–are you really Joba’s mother? and are you posting here while you’re stuck at home with a bracelet on your ankle?

  460. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    The Bears also had a Wide Receiver named Howard Hop-along Cassidy. He was black, but played a white guy on a TV Western.

  461. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    “I’ll say this, Gardner would win a 40 yard dash (in my opinion) but Johnson would probably win a longer race.”

    patrick-

    you think gardner would beat a world champion sprinter out of the blocks ?

    even when he’s told to steal, he sometimes just sits there on first frozen with uncertainty.

    i think he’d pee his pants when the gun went off in a race with johnson.

    and matt-

    no fair actually knowing what you’re talking about because you experienced it first hand.
    :)

  462. blake March 29th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Robertson throws the hardest 91 MPH fastball I think I’ve ever seen.

  463. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Willie Gault was in the olympics. So was Ron Brown. So were Bullet Bob Hayes and Henry Carr.

  464. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    “A ***young*** Bernie Williams was world cl@ss fast.”

    you know who’s even faster?

    an old gb7 with nurse karloff chasing him.

  465. merna loy March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Interesting SJ because I hear the opposite about Guthrie and his teammates.
    ——-
    SJ I think your scouts got it wrong on Guthrie. From everything I’ve ever read he is the antithesis of a punk (I actually did think you meant pink and figured you were making a statement on his politics, duh) and extremely supportive of his teammates.
    If you have information to the opposite I would certainly be interested in reading it. Otherwise I think you’ve got your pinks mixed up.
    ————–

    First you use “hear” to suggest you are “in the know,” then, later, when you need to distract attention from the number of people who have informed you that you do not know what you’re writing about concerning retaliation for hit batters, you repeat you’re challenge to SJ, but change “hear” to “read,” realizing someone may now call you out on you implications of inside knowledge.

    You are not rational. You are calculating. And mentally ill.

  466. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I think Gardner should pitch and Joba should play left. Joba hits better than Gardner. I think Carmine Lupertazzi should pinch run, but not when he’s been eating egg salad.

  467. Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    randy,

    I think Brett Gardner would beat a 42 year old world class sprinter out of the blocks, yes.

  468. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Teixeira says pitch hit him on bony part of elbow. “It looked pretty nasty,” he said. Expects to be back by Thursday. #nyy
    6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

  469. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I never understood the point of track

  470. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Last year I timed Gardner’s inside the parker. !3.3 seconds was my unscientific conclusion.

    Is that fast? It sounds fast. It looked fast. And he didn’t lose his gum.

  471. blake March 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    “you know who’s even faster?
    an old gb7 with nurse karloff chasing him.”

    In that situation should he run or lay down and play dead?

  472. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    Use hear and read synonymously. Most people do. I don’t couch my terms. And I don’t pretend to know things I don’t. If it’s inside information I’d be the first to say it’s inside information.

  473. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Rish-===are you related to that famous wrestler Rakishi? He didn’t have a bone on him. that would have helped Tex

  474. Carl March 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Patrick March 29th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    randy,

    I think Brett Gardner would beat a 42 year old world class sprinter out of the blocks, yes.

    I bet that 42 year old world class sprinter can hit better than Gardner.

  475. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Myrna Loy — with a Y — was a great and beautiful actress. Loved her in the ‘Thin Man’ movies opposite William Powell.

    http://oilandrouge.files.wordp.....na-loy.jpg

    Not sure about merna. Was that a calculated misspelling??

  476. Tarheelyank March 29th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Just got home and catching up.

    The Yankees were way to passive under Torre, Giradi has it under control. If any retaliation is in order (I doubt it), it will get done.

  477. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    “And I don’t pretend to know things I don’t. ”

    Yes, you do.

  478. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Trisha–do you know anything about curtains? Or perhaps making a crust for a cherry pie? Good idea–go do it.

  479. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Myrna Loy and William Powell were perfect together. Not just in the Thin Man movies but in an underrated gem called Libled Lady.

  480. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Actually no I don’t. And since there are others here tonight who also thought that the idea of retaliation was ridiculous, maybe you need to check your “knowledge”.

  481. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    “Actually no I don’t. And since there are others here tonight who also thought that the idea of retaliation was ridiculous, maybe you need to check your “knowledge”.”

    Because you say so? nfw

  482. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 29th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Just got home and took a scroll through the thread-

    Yowzers!

  483. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    “I think Brett Gardner would beat a 42 year old world class sprinter out of the blocks, yes.”

    patrick-

    i think you might be an agist :)

    seriously, i don’t think a world class athlete is going to lose as much at 42 as you think.

    this is the perfect blog argument though because it’ll be hard to prove.

  484. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Phil The Thrill
    March 29th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
    Willie Gault was in the olympics. So was Ron Brown. So were Bullet Bob Hayes and Henry Carr.

    ————————————————————

    The only Olympics that Gault was in was the Winter Olympics as a bob sledder. He was in the Boycott Olympics in 1980 and part of a World Record Setting 4X relay team in the Worlds Championships in ’83 and a Bronze Medal winnier in the 110 hurdles.

  485. Prime March 29th, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    I think Gardner is capable of running a bit faster than a 24 second in the 200m. Even if he (or MJ) were capable of running a 3.0 to home plate, that would still only equate to a 22s time when added up (a time many HS runners attain).

    Gardner is not going at full speed until he is probably 5 steps away from 1st base (if he even reaches his full speed). He is also running on packed sand, with clunky shoes, a baggy shirt, baggy pants, a few pound helmet, and his start is not clean, as he makes contact, drops his bat and moves to first.

    Put him in track spikes (basically a sock with spikes), on the fastest all weather tracks in the world, give him a starting block and he is running probably 20-21 seconds, a very respectable time.

  486. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    That’s the 4X 100 Meter Relay

  487. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    :)

    Wipe your tears dear. It isn’t because I say so. It’s because I and others here say so. So just take it from the others here who say so. Maybe you’re the one who needs to check your knowledge.

  488. Tom in N.J. March 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    All three Molina Bros. in a Steeplechase!

  489. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Who’s pitching for us?

  490. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Don’t mess with 42!

  491. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    “Wipe your tears dear. It isn’t because I say so. It’s because I and others here say so. So just take it from the others here who say so. Maybe you’re the one who needs to check your knowledge.”

    Get over yourself and stop judging people.

  492. Rose March 29th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    “It’s real simple, the unwritten rule of baseball is if you hit one of my guys, we hit one of yours.”

    Jeter and Alex get hit a lot. How many Yankee pitchers retaliated? Not many.

  493. Rocco March 29th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    royce ring

  494. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Is Passover the kind of holiday that you would call a relative and with them a happy Passover?

  495. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    and WISH them — the question assumes you aren’t WITH them.

  496. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 29th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 29th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
    Is Passover the kind of holiday that you would call a relative and with them a happy Passover?

    ***********************

    Well, I wouldn’t go out of my way to wish someone a Happy Passover. And I have never seen a Happy Passover card. But if I was on the phone with you, I would say Happy Passover

  497. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Tricia—Be honest. How broad is your backside? Have you “given up” and now only wear sweatpants? Do you have Twinkies hidden in the kitchen cabinets?

  498. Pat M. March 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Brett Gardner vs. Michael Johnson….Now I’ve heard it all…..Michael Johnson, even at 42, is still one of the fastest humans on the planet…..Absurd to even consider

  499. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    “Jeter and Alex get hit a lot. How many Yankee pitchers retaliated? Not many.”

    Thank you.

  500. Rocco March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Jon Heyman
    sean rodriguez can really hit. nobody better than #rays this spring. 9 minutes ago

  501. randy l. March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    ” bet that 42 year old world class sprinter can hit better than Gardner.”

    probably can bunt better than him too :)

  502. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    When the pitchers hit batters with intent, retaliation is in order, as long as you use the Bob Gibson Method. “You hit one of mine, and I’ll hit two of yours, and I throw harder.”

  503. Tarheelyank March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Choochoo

    You are not funny. You add nothing to this blog, just go away.

  504. Jerkface March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Michael Johnson, even at 42, is still one of the fastest humans on the planet

    Well you don’t really know this, as he hasn’t been timed as a 42 year old.

  505. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Rocco–are you a hitman, a pizza maker or a golfer?

  506. Phil The Thrill March 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Maddon takes the preseason more seriously than most.

  507. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    “Jeter and Alex get hit a lot. How many Yankee pitchers retaliated? Not many.”

    Actually, Olney recently had a blog entry that the Yankees are hitting more batters since Girardi became the manager.

  508. Joba in the pen March 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    choochoo

    Your name should be spelled chooch.

    Stop picking on the ladies. Talk baseball with them or go somewhere else.

  509. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I’ve never seen a Happy Anything card except for Hanukkah.

    Yom Kippur is the really solemn attonement one, right?

  510. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Rocco
    March 29th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Jon Heyman
    sean rodriguez can really hit. nobody better than #rays this spring. 9 minutes ago

    ————————————————————

    That really means a lot…..to Jon Heyman.

  511. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    Tarheel—do you know anything about Tobacco Road? 15-501? Is it true that all you guys are lazy because you get too much sun? Do y’all carry big guns?

  512. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    “Get over yourself and stop judging people.”

    YAWN!!!!!

    Get it?

  513. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 29th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 29th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
    I’ve never seen a Happy Anything card except for Hanukkah.

    Yom Kippur is the really solemn attonement one, right?

    ****************

    I think Happy Rosh Hashana cards may exist- that’s the New Year

    But Yom Kippur is the very serious one. Even I attempt to fast in observance. And when I say fast, I mean I still drink coffee and stuff

  514. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Joba in the pen–Is chooch Italian for Jackass? Is Joba in the pen Nebraskan for Pig?

  515. becca March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Jon Heyman
    sean rodriguez can really hit. nobody better than #rays this spring. 9 minutes ago

    except Cleveland has a better record than they do in ST

  516. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    “Is Passover the kind of holiday that you would call a relative and with them a happy Passover?”

    It depends. Is the relative Shomer Shabbat ?

  517. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    “YAWN!!!!!

    Get it?”

    Yup, I totally get what you are. You think you are better than other people. It’s a classic example of overcompensation.

    If you didn’t get on your high horse and judge so many people here, we wouldn’t be having this conversation, so obviously you don’t get it.

  518. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Thank you, Erica.

    Next year at Yankee Stadium!

  519. Noreaster March 29th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Ignore and it will pass…

  520. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Phil, Gault was in the Olympics? Cool…

  521. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Chad, can you please get rid of this moron?

  522. JCPD..... March 29th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Chad….. can you please spare us all, especially the ladies and remove choochoo from posting!!!

  523. Rocco March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    choochoo,

    I am a hit man.

  524. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    tar, the good news is that as soon as someone gets the energy, choochoo will be history.

  525. jennifer March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    John Heyman I didn’t realize that trophy’s were handed out for spring training.

  526. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Nick, yes, but I never fast because I can’t handle it physically. I guess that makes me a bad Jew, lol

  527. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Betsy—never forget the Bill of Rights. In fact, study it a little more than you have been and retire the baseball gig. It’s getting you nowhere.

  528. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    LOL GB – I respect the Rays, but who cares about their record?

  529. Joba Slays Dragons March 29th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Is that O’Neill’s banner I hear calling?

  530. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Dude,

    If you know anything about the Bill of Rights, you know it’s inapplicable.

  531. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    JCPD read my mind.

    Good work! :) The nice thing is that they ban by ISP so choochoo will not be able to chacha back on.

  532. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    trisha—do you think that batters should be charged with a time at bat when they hit a sacrifice fly? Explain to me why it should be scored differently from a batter who drives in a run on a ground-out.

  533. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    I don’t know my Shomer Shabbat from my [NO JOKE HERE DUE TO SENSITIVE NATURE OF CONVERSATION] but I called my step-grandma anyway. She seemed to appreciate it and wished me a happy Passover back. Then she guilted me for RSVP’ing a No to my step-cousin’s Bat Mitzvah. So a lot was accomplished.

  534. stuckey (knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Never, ever thought I’d say this, but can we start the Joba Chamberlain conversation again?

    This forums has not represented itaelf well this evening.

  535. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    “trisha—do you think that batters should be charged with a time at bat when they hit a sacrifice fly? Explain to me why it should be scored differently from a batter who drives in a run on a ground-out.”

    Please stop.

  536. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Rich–were you one of the Dudes in the Sopranos who used to hang out at the Bada Bing?

  537. Rishi March 29th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Ledger_Yankees And that’s it from here. Joba faced three hitters, got two out. Vazquez pushed his pitch count to around 100. Have a good night all. #nyy
    1 minute ago via TweetDeck
    ==============================

    I didn’t realize he got his PC so hight…nice

  538. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    It’s one idiot who will hopefully get banned

  539. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    No, the Satin Dolls.

    Now, chill.

  540. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Are you Rich Gossage? Did you want Joba in the pen? Did you know that Phil Leotardo was killed in Staten Island?

  541. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 29th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
    Nick, yes, but I never fast because I can’t handle it physically. I guess that makes me a bad Jew, lol

    *************

    I am okay without the food. But I refuse to not have my coffee. I don’t sin very much. LOL

  542. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    The Bill of Rights :lol: You are embarrassing yourself. Just go away. It has got to be your bedtime soon anyway.

  543. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Bye choochoo. Bye. Hope you’re not hungry because they won’t be serving meals on your trip out of here.

    *********************

    Let’s be clear on one thing. The Y..A..W..N I gave was for one person and one person only. You. So if you want to come up with generalizations about me, feel free to apply them in one direction only. Yours. Now you might want to go and bother someone else. Or don’t.

  544. Jim March 29th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    JUST GOT BACK FROM THE GAME:

    After Tex and then Cervelli got hit on the left forearm Girardi left his seat, came out and was yelling something toward Oriole pitcher Jeremy Guthrie.

    Interesting watching Chan Ho Park acting as protector of batted balls for A-Rod who was stretching before the game down the left field line with the Yanks trainer.
    Winfrees HR was a BOMB to center!

    A lot of Yanks fans at Ed Smith tonight. I think it was the largest of the year.

    Joba was throwing pretty hard tonight.

  545. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Erica, me either, lol – sin, that is. I don’t even drink coffee (hate it); I drink water, cranberry juice and grapefruit juic. Oh, I can’t deal with not eating, so I don’t bother even trying to fast. My family understands, fortunately, lol.

  546. Joba in the pen March 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    This is one thing I liked about Pete A. He would have banned choochoo by now.

  547. Rich in NJ March 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    “After Tex and then Cervelli got hit on the left forearm Girardi left his seat, came out and was yelling something toward Oriole pitcher Jeremy Guthrie.”

    Good to hear.

  548. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    LGY—I never sleep. You’re never awake

  549. EricNS March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Wonder which Oriole gets hit in the first game in the regular season with the Yanks?

  550. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Jim, thanks!

  551. Tom in N.J. March 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    I don’t roll on Shabbos!

  552. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Girardi still has that player’s mentality; I’ve no doubt if he were still playing that he’d be the first to encourage a Yankee pitcher to retaliate.

  553. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Rich–What did Girardi say? Is Paulie Walnuts going to get him? How do you acquire all this valuable inside information?

  554. Joba Slays Dragons March 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Pete was ban-happy.

    There is NOTHING to like about that.

    We don’t live in China.

  555. GreenBeret7 March 29th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Betsy – Romine wasn’t built in a day
    March 29th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
    Nick, yes, but I never fast because I can’t handle it physically. I guess that makes me a bad Jew, lol

    ————————————————————

    One of those mysterious things to ponder. Why do they call it fasting when it goes so slow?

  556. Bronx Jeers March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Everything you need to know about Shomer Shabbat can be gained by watching The Big Lebowski.

    Warning:This clip contains bad words.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmULYr1nsZ0

  557. m March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    What did I miss? :?

    I hope it’s nothing big for Tex.

    It does take a lot to get Girardi mad, but doesn’t he realize it’s Guthrie? I mean a heroine addict has more control than Guthrie.

    Hopefully, all are safe. But one good thing can come from this. The Yankees will follow Girardi’s lead and play mad. The Orioles are upstarts that will be making noise in the league soon. It’s important that the Yankees not take them lightly.

    Jim, thanks for the scouting report!

  558. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Trisha–I think your really yawning because you’ve overdosed tonight on a whole one pound bag of chips, onion dip, hershey kisses and then a creamsicle for dessert.

  559. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Joba in the pen, I think the hosts will be good about that if we email them and refer them to posts. Chad is probably in the clubhouse now so probably hasn’t seen choochoo’s spate of offensive posts. If he gets to read the stuff and sees everyone asking to disappear choochoo I’m sure he’ll do it.

    I remember Pete saying that he didn’t always get to read every post in every thread. That’s the reason that with stuff like this, unless you know the host is around, it’s probably a good idea to email him.

  560. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    trisha–I think you should make it your personal business to do something about this terrible choochoo character. He’s going to give you indigestion and you’ll end up going to Wal-Mart tomorrow for a bigger pair of sweatpants.

  561. Joba in the pen March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Joba Slays Dragons

    Are you choochoo posting under another name?

  562. Betsy - Romine wasn't built in a day March 29th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    GB, lol. Why does a car drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

  563. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! March 29th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    “Pete was ban-happy.

    There is NOTHING to like about that.

    We don’t live in China.”

    On the other hand there are TOS that go along with posting on this forum. Since Lohud is the owner of the press, they have the right to set their own terms as long as those terms are not illegal. If people want to post here, they live by the terms. Nobody is forcing anyone to post here. It’s a privilege, not a right.

    Just about everything that choochoo has posted here tonight has violated the TOS.

    I don’t think our guys will overdo it with bans. I trust however they will be vigilant about keeping bona fide violators at bay.

    JMO

  564. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Joba in the pen—-are you starring in next week’s CSI Miami?

  565. Nick in SF March 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    “It does take a lot to get Girardi mad, but doesn’t he realize it’s Guthrie? I mean a heroine addict has more control than Guthrie.”

    1) Girardi is likely aware who was pitching.

    2) A teammate getting plunked might help Guthrie be more careful when he’s pitching to the Yankees.

  566. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    They’re going to keep me in a bay? Like Alcatraz? Oh, no.

  567. choochoo March 29th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Trisha–do they make you buy two tickets when you go to the ballpark? do you have to sit in the bleachers?

  568. cramps March 30th, 2010 at 6:18 am

    “Bananas are good for leg cramps? ”
    Potassium.
    ——————————
    cramps are brought on by dehydration. Potassium is key, plus lots of fluids. Bananas are a good source of potassium , as is gatorade. The water your body needs as fuel is put in body the days before game. Once you get cramps you cannot play catch up. Salt also can help prevent cramps. For years salt tablets were given out.[ No one ever cramped up back then]. Staying away from Caffienated drinks also is key. Coffee & Soda will dehydrate your body. Alcohol also dehydrates the body as well all know. Athletes need to take care of their bodies, but I am sure that is hard with the 160 game schedule & the partying that goes on on the road.

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