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Disabled list not ruled out for Aceves

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Mar 30, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi remains optimistic that Alfredo Aceves will pitch in a spring training game this week, but if that doesn’t happen, it’s entirely possible he could open the season on the disabled list.

“I think we have to have him throw one more time before we leave or he’s probably a candidate,” Girardi said.

Because of the nature of back injuries — it will either hurt or it won’t — Girardi said he doesn’t expect this to affect Aceves ability to pitch multiple innings. If his back feels good one day, he’ll be used the same as always. If it hurts the next day, he probably won’t be able to pitch at all.

• Mark Teixeira is “sore” today, but Girardi said it’s no different from what the Yankees expected yesterday. He’ll go through treatment this afternoon and the Yankees still believe he’ll be able to play on Thursday.

• The Braves did not let the Yankees use a designated hitter today, which is why CC Sabathia is in the lineup. Sabathia can hit, but he’s under order to not swing today. “He’ll get his chances,” Girardi said. “Just not to today.” At one point, Sabathia asked Girardi if he could at least drag bunt. Pretty sure that was a joke.

• Girardi remains incredibly excited about using Pat Venditte. He’s never even seen him warm up and was wondering how Venditte uses his eight warm up pitches. Is it four with each hand? “We’re going to find out,” Girardi said.

• The Yankees lineups for the last 11 games of spring were set before the last off day last week. Girardi said there’s no significance to the fact Curtis Granderson is in center today. In fact, Girardi wasn’t even sure who was starting in center today.

• No list of who’s playing which position, but these are the Yankees bench players for the game: C P.J. Pilittere, C Jeff Farnham, INF Walter Ibarra, INF Justin Snyder, OF Austin Krum, OF David Winfree and OF Ray Kruml.

• Pitchers in the bullpen: RHP Zack Segovia, RHP Ryan Flannery, RHP Cory Arbiso, RHP Ryan Zink and SP Pat Venditte.

• Got to see Jason Heyward up close this morning. I will now be shocked if he doesn’t hit 97 home runs this season. He’s tall and lean and huge. “He look like a little bigger version of Fred McGriff,” Girardi said. A little bigger version of a guy who hit 493 home runs. Impressive.





51 Responses to “Disabled list not ruled out for Aceves”

  1. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 30th, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    I don’t get why these stupid NL teams have a problem with AL teams using the DH…..are they ticked off because they’ve lost a zillion All-Star games in a row?

    This is NOT a good situation for the Yankees with Aceves; no, it’s not just minor – no back situation is minor. There are going to be plenty of days when he can’t pitch and Joe won’t know that until that day. That’s going to affect how he uses the pen.

  2. pat March 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    All the comments disappeared? Is it just me or everyone?

  3. William Buckner March 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Where is the comment section?

  4. CountryClub March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    What’s going on with the comments?

  5. Joe Arena March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Here’s to hoping this kid Pat Venditte has the talent to make it to the bigs.

    I foresee a number of issues associated with a switch pitcher.

  6. teddy March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    disappeared on me too

  7. Erin March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    March 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    All the comments disappeared? Is it just me or everyone?

    No, it happened to me too. I thought it was just me! lol

  8. Joe Arena March 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Can’t see the comments without posting one? Thats annoying

  9. CountryClub March 30th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Ok, I had a feeling that once I made a comment the others would show up. Weird though.

  10. William Buckner March 30th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    I officially hate anything to do with Facebook and this blog!!

  11. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 30th, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    I’ll bet CC regrets not staying home now; he went to Orlando so he could hit. Well, I would have done the same thing Joe did; these games don’t count, so no risks will be taken.

    Um, that was frustrating, lol.

  12. blake March 30th, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    I watched Heyward hit against verlander the other day. When he swings, its with bad intentions but very controlled and he has an amazing approach for a 20 year old.

    He’s impressive. Bobby V asked him about his pitch selection and if he looked for/saw spin or angle on pitches and he responded “I see everything”.

  13. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 30th, 2010 at 12:14 pm

    I tried to post a comment on the comment-less blog and it didn’t post. I dont’ think the word “testing” is a problem word, right? :)

    What would be the particular advantage of posting a comment via Facebook?

  14. blake March 30th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    I don’t get it either. It does nobody any good for a pitcher to go up there and take 3 pitches and go back to the dug out. Doesn’t help the pitcher, doesn’t help the hitters, and isn’t good for the fans. Makes no sense.

  15. teddy March 30th, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    ““I see everything”.”

    too bad mo not making the trip, to show him his cutter

  16. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Blake, right. I don’t think all NL teams are *****, but the Braves appear to be; this isn’t the first time they’ve pulled this garbage.

  17. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 30th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    Yesterday (I think it was yesterday – I’m starting to get my days confused), they were talking about Heyward on XM, and I think they were comparing him to the young Ken Griffey Jr. Seemed like the part of the conversation I caught was more concerned with assimilating into the major leagues and handling all the attention.

    One guy thought Griffey had it a little easier in Seattle because the expectations for the Mariners there at the time weren’t so high and fans were used to new young players all the time. Thought that the fact that Atlanta is on TV everyday and there is more media exposure there than Seattle, plus the difficulty of the division and the expectation for the Braves to field a winning team may be of some concern for this kid.

    So they weren’t talking about his talent specifically.

  18. upstate kate March 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Glad to hear it is nothing major w/ Tex…didn’t Cervelli get hit as well?

    also happy to see the comments back! I don’t do facebook, altho I have learned to text.

  19. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 30th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    I do facebook, but I don’t necessarily want my facebook friends to see me here. :) I keep my baseball nerdiness pretty close to the vest.

  20. cano he didnt March 30th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    I dont remember hearing much on heyward, where will he be starting the season? Whats his position? Is he a lefty or a righty?

  21. Phil Columbus March 30th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Not a bad idea putting Aceves on the 15 DL and let him spend some time in Fla getting his back squared away. Could keep Logan around as the 2nd lefty and give Phil some innings out of the pen until his turn comes in the rotation. You know CC wanted to swing the bat.

  22. blake March 30th, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Heyward will play RF for the Braves and he’s a lefty hitter.

  23. Erin March 30th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    upstate kate
    March 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    Glad to hear it is nothing major w/ Tex…didn’t Cervelli get hit as well?

    He did, but I don’t think it was bad at all. He stayed in the game.

  24. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    “Not quite, Stuckey, because I don’t put Gardner in that category talents worth waiting on.”

    Betsy, [with all good intentions] who gets to decide who belongs in that category?

    You’re suggesting to OTHER people they should patient with young talents, yet seemingly deciding for yourself whom deserves patience.

    Are you suggesting other fans should be patient with young talent that you feel are worth waiting on?

    Honestly Betsy, I’m genuinely trying to get you to see something here I don’t think you’re seeing.

  25. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:27 pm


    Thanks for your advice. I’m going to have faith in our “pitching” and probably shoot for 100.

    Here’s the link to Cash with Kay. I didn’t really hear anything about Joba being in the doghouse like some implied yesterday. BUT, it is very clear that Cashman doesn’t think that 2008 Joba will be back. Kay sounds like a whiny kid who’s not getting his way. But everything that Cashman says makes sense (unless you’re a Joba to the rotation this year booster).

  26. Patrick from CT March 30th, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    It does not sound good for Ace. If they DL him do they bring another lefty or a guy that can go multi innings?

  27. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Patrick from CT,

    This is the opening for that 2nd lefty. Which is good, because you really never know what Marte’s going to give you. Until he gives it to you. He’s an enigma, that one. ;)

    I think Mitre’s the one that can go multi-innings. Maybe they’re banking on him having a rubber arm now?

  28. Nick in SF March 30th, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    UPDATE: comments were temporarily disabled after excessive complaining about Johnny Damon’s inspirational words for Phil Hughes.


    “I’m thinking it’s highly improbable that they win 100+ in consecutive years.”

    Yes, but the results of the previous year do not influence the probabilty of winning 100+ games this year.


    The probability of a coin coming up heads in consecutive flips is lower than in a single flip. But once it’s come up heads in the first flip, the probability of getting heads in the second flip is 50/50.

    There could be some residual effects from last season, however — in theory. Lots of innings logged by CC, AJ, and Andy. But they may have already compensated for that sufficiently.

    Hey, what are the odds that AJ can get through a season healthy AGAIN???

  29. Chad Jennings March 30th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    No clue what was going on with the comments, but it seems fixed now.

  30. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    How many 100 game winners have there been in all of baseball over the last 10 years?

    It’s very difficult to do in any year. Let alone two in a row.

  31. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 30th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    Thank goodness the comments are back.

    I can’t work without the Yankee blog!

  32. Derek Leader March 30th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

    Boo this. Let CC take some hacks. He needs to get some swings in so he can crush one 420 ft against the Dodgers like he did a few years ago.

  33. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm


    Is it totally weird and creepy how so much people are depending on you? :?

  34. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 30th, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Memo to Jeff the IT Guy-

    At what point do we give up the dream of marrying the blog and facebook?

  35. Patrick from CT March 30th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    I think you are right m.
    Lots of guys in the Yankee pen can go more than one inning. Probably just the lefties and Mo would pitch 1 inning or less.

  36. Nick in SF March 30th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

    “It’s very difficult to do in any year. Let alone two in a row.”

    Will it be more difficult to do this year because they did it last year?

  37. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    I don’t know. I’m just a stupid baseball fan.

    It’ll be just as difficult to do it this year or next year or the year after that.

    Let’s just say improbable okay?

  38. Nick in SF March 30th, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    You’re not earning rationality points. ;)

  39. Phil Columbus March 30th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    If they DL Aceves it doesn’t look like Phil will be needed to start until 4/17 against Texas. Could use Phil out of the pen a couple of times and carry an extra lefty against Boston, Tamapa and Angels. Wouldn’t need Aceves until Hughes is ready to go into the rotation.

  40. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 30th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Banking on a pitcher who’s had TJ surgery having a rubber arm is stupid. I still dislike the idea that Mitre is on this team but oh well.

    Kay was a complete whiner, especially when he asked Cashman “don’t you WANT to find out about Joba as a starter?” or something like that. Oddly, he never once asked Cashman about Phil – it’s like he didn’t care why Phil won the job, just that Joba lost it. I’m going to have to mute the YES network when Phil pitches this year, lol. Kay has it fixed in his brain that Phil is nothing special as a starter, but when Phil does reach his potential, then he’s going to rave about him like he always knew it, lol. M, I think CB’s point about the interview was that if you read between the lines, it’s clear that Cash is not thrilled and I do think that’s the case (You’ll never hear Cash disparage one of his players openly).I didn’t get that the first time around, but when I listened to it again, I did. It just sounded to me like he thought Joba took the idea that he was a starter for granted, that maybe he takes too many things for granted and forgets there are other, talented players coming up behind him (or already on the team) that want what he has as much or more than he does.

  41. Betsy -Romine wasn't built in a day March 30th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    I don’t like the idea of Phil in the pen at all. He’s a starter now and he should start acclimating himself to that role now.

  42. pat March 30th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    “Let’s just say improbable okay?”

    From a probability standpoint it is seperate events so it wouldn’t be improbable.

    I suffered through too many probability courses in college not to throw that out there. :wink:

  43. Chip March 30th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    March 30th, 2010 at 10:58 am

    when it comes to trade suggestions, you have three types of people in here:

    1. Those who propose trades that have no chance of getting done. Mostly trades that are heavily weighted in the Yankees favor.

    2. Those who overrate prospects and believe more of them are untouchable than they actually are.

    3. Those who propose immediate trades if a player plays poorly or doesn’t fill a role on the team they deem right for the player. Mostly, those become emotion filled tirades, as we have seen from the “Trade Joba, the Yankees have ruined him” contingent the past few days.

    It’s probably best to view a proposed trade from the opposing GM’s POV. That way, you will get a more objective view of the proposal.

    I don’t disagree with you – which is why I don’t quite get the calling for my head at the suggestion of Joba for Jay Bruce (with other parts – as suggested a few links ago)

    There is precident for such a deal (Hamilton for Volquez just to name one)

    It is, in the purest sense – a baseball trade (I tend to think some Yankee fans have no interest in a trade unless the other team is giving up a great player and the Yankees are giving up a fringe prospect because the Yankees absorb money in the deal – as in the Vazquez deal)

    And it’s viable in the sense that Joba holds more value to the Reds where he would immediately go into the rotation than he does for the Yankees where he will be a middle reliever for the next 3 years. And that to get a potential top 3 starter the Reds may, in fact, be willing to part with a high ceiling outfielder who, like Joba, has yet to reach his potential.

  44. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    LOL, Betsy.

    CB paraphrased a lot of things that I myself had said. So I wanted to hear what Cash actually said. Anyway, like a lot of written word, it sounds worse on paper.

    But I did get the gist that they felt that Phil can do the job better now. And that his development is also a priority.

    And did you catch the part about how he warned Melky that there were guys behind him that wanted in? I guess those were the lines I was supposed to be reading in between. I think they were a bit more direct with Joba, and not for public consumption.

  45. Phil The Thrill March 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    They’ll win well over 100.

    btw, it’s possible that after CC leaves the game today, the pen will give up 10+ runs.

  46. Erin March 30th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Game post up

  47. Chip March 30th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    If the Yankees put Ace on the DL Boone Logan will likely take his place in the pen.

    In fact even if Ace doesn’t open on the DL they could still take Logan, and leave Hughes in extended spring training to get regular work until he’s needed at the ML level.

  48. m March 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm


    lol. i know. but winning a 100 games isn’t a completely random event. so who knows if these rules even apply?

  49. upstate kate March 30th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    I see no reason why the Yankees couldn’t win at least 100 again. With Javy replacing CMW, and Phil w/ less of an innings limit than Joba last year, and a much stronger bull pen, the pitching has improved.
    We will miss Johnny, Sui, Melky, but I like what I see so far from Granderson and Nick.
    I think the Rays have improved w/ Soria as a closer, but don’t think the sox improved w/ their supposed emphasis on pitching and defense.

  50. Bronx Jeers March 30th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    “The Braves did not let the Yankees use a designated hitter today, which is why CC Sabathia is in the lineup”

    It’s obvious they still haven’t gotten over the 8 straight World Series losses. :wink:

    Let it go Atlanta! Forgive us for shamelessly embarrassing you on baseball’s biggest stage and we’ll forget that your mental midget closer insulted the fine people that ride the 7 train. Deal?

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