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Spring Training Game 27: Yankees vs. Twins

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Mar 31, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Marcus Thames DH
Jorge Posada C
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Nick Swisher RF
Curtis Granderson CF
Brett Gardner LF
Ramiro Pena 2B
Juan Miranda 1B

RHP Phil Hughes

TWINS
Denard Span CF
Orlando Hudson 2B
J.J. Hardy SS
Jason Kubel DH
Delmon Young LF
Brendan Harris 3B
Brock Peterson 1B
Juan Portes RF
Drew Butera C

LHP Brian Duensing

TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m./YES Network

WEATHER: A few light clouds in the distance, but otherwise another bright and sunny day here in Tampa. Spring training started with some chilly days, but these last few weeks have been outstanding.

UMPIRES: HP Vic Carapazza, 1B Eric Cooper, 2B Andy Fletcher, 3B Damien Beal

ON THE LINE: In terms of roster decisions, the most interesting thing to watch in Yankees camp might be Marcus Thames at-bats against lefties. He’ll face another left-hander today, and he’s looked pretty good against them lately… Also worth watching left-handed reliever Boone Logan and Royce Ring. The Yankees are still determining whether they have room for one of them in the bullpen.

UPDATE, 1:15 p.m.: Denard Span just lined a ball into the stands and hit a woman who’s wearing a Span jersey. Turns out, it was a member of Span’s family, possibly his mother. Jorge Posada immediately ran over there, then Span ran into the stands to check on her. She seems to be OK, but that was pretty crazy.

UPDATE, 1:31 p.m.: That was in fact Span’s mother. She was hit in the chest, but did not go to the hospital. She’s back in the stands, just not as close to the field as before.

UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: Since that two-out, two-run stretch in the first inning, Phil Hughes has retired 10 of the past 11 Twins. He’s struck out five through four innings. I really think he can be a very good pitcher in the major leagues, and I think we’ll see it happen this year.

UPDATE, 2:20 p.m.: That’s spring home run No. 2 for Alex Rodriguez. He’s now tied with Robinson Cano for the team lead in RBI with 9. Nick Swisher has eight and Nick Johnson has seven.

UPDATE, 2:29 p.m.: He didn’t get the out, but Ramiro Pena just made a nice relay throw to third to very nearly get Orlando Hudson. The guy can play some defense, no doubt.

UPDATE, 2:35 p.m.: After Hughes was chased from the game, Boone Logan struck out Jason Kubel to strand a runner at second and keep the Twins lead at 3-1 in the fifth. I’ve done a complete 360 on Logan. I came to camp expecting him to make the team, then I thought he’d be crowded out by fifth-starter candidates, and now I think they’ll find a way to at least carry him until they need a fifth starter.

UPDATE, 3:01 p.m.: Joba Chamberlain is in to pitch for the Yankees. Brandon Laird is in the game at third and Jose Pirela is in at shortstop.

UPDATE, 3:15 p.m.: More unusual to see a switch-pitcher or a 5-foot-3 second baseman?

UPDATE, 3:24 p.m.: Apparently ESPN just listed Clay Condrey as a Yankees reliever. Condrey is with the Twins after establishing himself with the Phillies. Don’t worry, he’s not going to beat out Mo.

UPDATE, 3:25 p.m.: Nice game for Juan Miranda, who just homered to pull the Yankees within 4-2.

 
 

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417 Responses to “Spring Training Game 27: Yankees vs. Twins”

  1. teddy gbu March 31st, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    hopefully hughes does well.

    and joba, interested in seeing what he has ” stuff “

  2. jennifer March 31st, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    no Marty Foster. Is he okay?

  3. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 31st, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 31st, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    And I agree that 1977 is where the divergence starts, but events BEFORE 1977 would also be affected because the Losties influenced events on the island before 1977.

    ********************************

    Without ever seeing an episode of LOST. I translate this as follows:

    The 1977 release of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours affected the LOST universe :-)

  4. Tim March 31st, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Its on ESPN

  5. MTU (aka GBURL) March 31st, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Preemptive Strike:

    Since people will inevitably be comparing PH and JC after today’s performances let me say the following:

    They are both young, talented, Yankee pitchers, and I am rooting for both of them. BOTH of them. to do well. ;)

  6. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 31st, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Today we finally find out if this Hughes character is any good considering he is facing the best lineup in baseball.

  7. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    I say Chamberlain hits 95 today. Anyone want a piece of that action?

  8. Rishi March 31st, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    BloggingBombers Biggest question: Who’s the slowest? RT @MLBastian Jose Molina was asked which of the 3 brothers is the best catcher. “I’m the best looking”
    1 minute ago via web

  9. Nick in SF March 31st, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    If you haven’t seen L :shock: ST, you shouldn’t be nosing around in between the asterisks.

  10. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) March 31st, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    “What the heck are you talking about? I was calling out Girardi for not just naming Granderson the starting CF than playing all these games”
    ——————————————-

    bad scooter: never mind. Apparently the thought process is too deep for you

  11. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    The media and fans will put Phil under a microscope this whole season and they will expect him to pitch like a seasoned vet instead of a kid. However, the Yanks committed to Phil as the starter and a starter he shall be. Whatever Joba does in the pen has no bearing on anything.

  12. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The most important thing to watch from Hughes today is his fastball command.

    His off speed stuff has been very good all spring. His fastball command has been ok but not great.

    Hopefully he’ll continue building up his arm and getting back that command. It’ll come with more work.

  13. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Damn..hope he or she is okay, and I hope it’s not a kid..

  14. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Somebod is seriously hurt. Hopefully that lady is a doctor.

  15. Camilo Gerardo March 31st, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    i kind of hope that logan/ring make joba’s service in the bullpen unnecessary

  16. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Did Span hit his mother?

  17. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Jeez. Looks like a family member.

  18. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 31st, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 31st, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    If you haven’t seen L ST, you shouldn’t be nosing around in between the asterisks.

    *******************

    Wow- that’s rude!!

    Actually the next time I am looking for a TV project and I decide to get a Netflix account, I am going to start watching LOST

  19. Camilo Gerardo March 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    wow, really? it was Span’s Aunt/Mother?

  20. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    That was his mother.

  21. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    What happened???????????

  22. ANSKY March 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Even if Ring and Logan go down to AAA to start the season, I’m sure there will be times when either one or both are called up. Opening day roster is just what it’s called .. the roster on opening day.

    If Hughes goes to Scranton to get a couple starts in until the big team needs a 5th starter, it’s not to say Phil didn’t make the team. This might even allow the one extra lefty to start the season.

    We’ll all see who does well, who gets hurt and how the opposing teams match up against different kinds of pitchers at different times during the season. Guys will get call ups and guys will get sent down. Some will even be on a shuttle. Part of managing is managing the roster and that includes the 40-man roster through the whole season.

  23. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    That was well placed for strike 3, but Span’s head must’ve been somewhere else. The person walked off out of the stands, so hopefully not too serious.

  24. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Whew, that’s good news. Was she hit by a foul ball?

  25. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Span hit his mother?
    What are the chances?

  26. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Good fastball command and throwing a free and easy 92-93.

    Nice start for Phil.

  27. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Hughes living on the outside. 2 K’s then a single up the middle on his curve.

  28. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    So is this a ESPN 93mph rad gun where he is sitting at 90-91? Or is this a true read?? Just curious. Let’s not start the velocity debate today.

  29. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Hughes hitting 93 on the gun :)

  30. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    CB, is FB command usually the last thing to come? I suppose it depends on the pitcher, though.

  31. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    PeteAbe Two roster moves for the #Redox: Boof Bonser and Jed Lowrie to the DL retroactive to March 26.

    ___

    Remember when Jed Lowrie was one of their top prospects?

  32. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    hughes throws harder than joba

  33. tampayank March 31st, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    “TWINS

    Drew Butera C”

    ha went to college w/ him, remember him getting drafted w/ the Mets organization, glad to see him playing w/ the Twins today, good guy :)

  34. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    “The media and fans will put Phil under a microscope this whole season and they will expect him to pitch like a seasoned vet instead of a kid.”

    Betsy, last week you argued that if Hughes spent this year in the pen, next season he wouldn’t be a kid.

    No offense, but you can’t have it both ways.

  35. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Great, there goes the perfect game, lol.

  36. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Amazing how Phil looks so much more complete than 2 years ago when it was strictly fastball curve. I could easily see him having as good stats as Andy this year.

  37. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    I was hoping to see Mauer, Morneau and Cuddyer in the line-up to better guage Hughes effectiveness today.

  38. Nick in SF March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Erica: awwwwww, sorry, you know I didn’t mean it like that. And I am only looking out for your best interests in case you start watching.

  39. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    So far so good on the fastball command for Hughes. He is locating the ball well.

    People keep talking about Phil’s velocity last year – but what made his fastball so good was it’s location and life.

    Hughes sitting 93-94 out of the pen had a better fastball than relievers throwing 96-98.

  40. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) March 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    “Span hit his mother?
    What are the chances?”
    —————————————–

    approx the same chance as Chuck Knobloch beaning Oberman’s mom

  41. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    **** BEGIN LOST GEEK TALK ****

    I don’t think the flash sideways stuff is relevant to the Alpert episode from last week. The backstory they showed for him was his original timeline backstory — not sideways reality. Last week was a break from the sideways narrative device.

    And I agree that 1977 is where the divergence starts, but events BEFORE 1977 would also be affected because the Losties influenced events on the island before 1977.

    I guess you’re right about Alpert and the flash sideways. I was stretching a bit to make my point.

    I had completely forgotten that 1977 wasn’t the only time travel the Losties had done.

    **** END GEEK LOST TALK **** (for now)

  42. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    94 on ESPN right by Young, 92 on YES.

  43. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    sitting 89-92 topped out at 93 mph in inning #1 so far for Hughes.

    I hope Mrs. Span is ok, that was a hell of a foul ball she took off the face.

  44. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    approx the same chance as Chuck Knobloch beaning Oberman’s mom

    ______

    Classic Yankee moments from Chuck “Sax” Knoblauch.

  45. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    It was a check-swing foul. Like a cue ball shot. Freaky.

  46. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    94? I think the gun is slightly ESPN juiced by a couple MPH. But showing more strength again today. He looks good, just too much of the plate on the curves, need to bury them.

  47. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Four position players over the past decade have made their major league debut at the age of 20 (none debuted before 20):

    Miguel Cabrera
    BJ Upton
    Justin Upton

    and

    Delmon Young.

    Jason Heyword will be the 5th guy.

  48. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    Stuckey, you know I worry about everything. I made that comment because I was worrying that by the time Phil got out of the pen and into the rotation, he would be further behind in terms of his development. I didn’t mean that 24 was old……..Are you saying (I don’t think you are) that it’s fair for Phil to have to pitch like a seasoned vet? He’s going to be the most scrutinized 5th starter because everyone will expect the Yankees to replace him with Joba if he struggles.

  49. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    0-2 Curve taken up the middle for a single. It wasn’t really as bad as Tino said. It was outside and like knee high?

    Its weird how hitters can just pound his curve

  50. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    “94 on ESPN right by Young, 92 on YES.”

    Jerk, you’re watching both?

  51. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Curveball has hurt him this inning.

    Then again, if this was the regular season, he wouldn’t be throwing a 3-2 changeup to Kubel.

    Another reason why you throw out ST results because pitchers throw pitches in certain counts they won’t throw in the regular season.

  52. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    MLB.TV and an actual TV

  53. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter March 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Nick in SF
    March 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
    Erica: awwwwww, sorry, you know I didn’t mean it like that. And I am only looking out for your best interests in case you start watching.

    ***********************

    Thanks Nick :-)
    You can resume being my favorite person in SF now

  54. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    CB, that makes the debate about his velocity totally meaningless. Phil doesn’t need to throw 96 MPH to be effective. I still remember the Jays saying what good late life he had on his FB after his debut…. Alex made a point to say he throws “easy cheese” this spring (and Phil was not throwing harder than 91 or 92, if that).

  55. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    He worked on cutting down the curve arc. Making them more tight. The one hit up the middle looped a bit, which is fine, but need to bury that low, too high and too slow if you were looking offspeed.

  56. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    93 mph fastball line drive :x

  57. Al March 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    Hughes stuff looks great, but the Twins are hitting it.

    Doesn’t help that he has been in 3-ball counts to every guy I think since striking out Hudson.

  58. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    “Its weird how hitters can just pound his curve”

    There’s a strange disconnect with Hughes curve. Hitters shouldn’t be able to hit it the way they are given his fastball and the bite on his curve.

    Maybe it’s location. But right there Young is not a good breaking ball hitter at all.

    For him to hit that pitch down in the count is not a positive.

  59. JJ March 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    The fielders must think they are playing behind Joba now lol

  60. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    CB,

    I mentioned how Neyer picked the Braves for the NL East. Mentioned how Heyward would blah, blah, blah. Was asked by Stash who Heyward reminded him of. He said Andruw Jones, but said that Heyward is nowhere near the defender that Jones was even thought Heyward’s pretty good. I lol’d at that as Jones is a big tub of lard now.

    Phil getting hit, but not looking terrible bad while doing it. :P

  61. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    thinking mitre is going to get some long relief opps early this year.

  62. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Finally uses a cutter to get out of the inning.

  63. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Hughes stuff looks great, but the Twins are hitting it.

    Doesn’t help that he has been in 3-ball counts to every guy I think since striking out Hudson.

    ___

    If his stuff is great, they shouldnt be hitting it.

  64. Phil the Thrill March 31st, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Phil needs to do better.

  65. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    In my opinion, one of the problems in the past with Phil’s curve was the low velocity. Before 2009 he would sit in the low 90′s with his fastball and throw the curve in the low 70′s. That’s just too much difference in velocity, it’s a lot easier to recognize when the curve is coming with such a big gap. Last year the curveball avg velo went up to 77 which definitely helps things. But still, I think that could be why his curve is so hittable.

  66. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy March 31st, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    “Hughes sitting 93-94 out of the pen had a better fastball than relievers throwing 96-98.”

    ——————————–

    Like Joba in the playoffs with his 96 MPH batting cage fastballs.

    Like Hughes, I love Robertson’s fastball. It does not matter that it is only 90-91. It just seems like it explodes on the hitter.

    It is interesting with Joba that much of the focus has been on his velocity. But with that velocity went his command and life on his fastball. One of the reasons I really agree with you that it is not about his role.

  67. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Scouting report says Heyward has plus range, but he plays a corner spot so probably not nearly as good range as Jones used to have.

  68. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Gardner and Nino batting infront of Miranda…has GI Joe lost it today?

  69. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Again, I would love to see Hughes continue to work with AJ on the curve. He has nice motion and as mentioned tried to make it tighter, more like AJs. It used to be like an offspeed pitch, but since he has added that into his pitch selection he has a few pitches he can now go to. His slider used to be decent in the minors, but there is always a fear of an arm injury there if you throw it too often.

  70. U-Turn March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    “thinking mitre is going to get some long relief opps early this year.”

    My thoughts exactly

    And that is not exactly a comforting thought.

  71. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Which YES guy was fond of saying that Hughes should be proud of his fastball? Cone or Leiter?

    He’s used it for a couple of young pitchers. It’s kind of funny. But, rightfully so, he needs to work on all his pitches.

  72. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    “Was asked by Stash who Heyward reminded him of. He said Andruw Jones, but said that Heyward is nowhere near the defender that Jones was even thought Heyward’s pretty good. ”

    Jason Heyward is nothing at all like Andru Jones. They aren’t even remotely similar players other than the fact that they both came up very young for the Braves.

    That’s a terrible comparison.

    Jones is a very impatient hitter who doesn’t have good strike zone command.

    That’s arguably Heyward’s biggest strength.

    I don’t see how those two guys are remotely alike. Heyward is much more similar to Justin Upton and even Miguel Cabrera.

  73. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    “If his stuff is great, they shouldnt be hitting it.”

    It’s a mixture of bad location / luck.

  74. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Before 2009 he would sit in the low 90’s with his fastball and throw the curve in the low 70’s. That’s just too much difference in velocity, it’s a lot easier to recognize when the curve is coming with such a big gap.

    Some guys can make a slow curve work though. In Hughes’ no hit start his curve was 70-72 and hitters had no idea what was happening. Greinke has a pretty slow curve.

    He needs to go with what works, but perhaps he should tighten it up a bit.

  75. GC March 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    If he throws the way he did that inning, he has a chance to be the second best pitcher on the team this season.

    I don’t care about the results.

  76. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    I’m happy that Phil’s stuff isn’t as ugly as the line shows, however he won’t be making it late into games this way, no matter how nasty his stuff looks.

  77. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Phil the Thrill,

    Do you always talk about yourself in the first person? :P

  78. pat March 31st, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    BloggingBombers Good news: Span’s mother, Wanda, was hit in the chest by the foul ball, but she’s OK and back in the stands watching the game.

  79. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    CB,

    Good point about Heyward’s plate discipline. One of the (very minor) sticking points with him is that he walked so much in the minors that some scouts doubted how good he actually was at hitting. Minor league pitchers pitched around him all the time (because he’s a monster) and he wouldn’t budge at all. He’s just an extremely talented hitter with a great approach at the plate.

  80. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    CB
    March 31st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    “Its weird how hitters can just pound his curve”

    There’s a strange disconnect with Hughes curve. Hitters shouldn’t be able to hit it the way they are given his fastball and the bite on his curve.

    Maybe it’s location. But right there Young is not a good breaking ball hitter at all.

    For him to hit that pitch down in the count is not a positive.

    ————————————————————

    Does it appear to you that the hitters see the curve ball for a long time? Too much right to left and too slow? A curve more on the order of Burnett’s, with a faster break might suit his needs more?

  81. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    What’s the score?

  82. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    Our pen could take a beating early on.

  83. Al March 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    2-0 Twins

  84. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    “One of the (very minor) sticking points with him is that he walked so much in the minors that some scouts doubted how good he actually was at hitting.”

    I believe this is actually what happened with him in high school. Since he’s turned pro he’s always been seen as an absolute star.

    Scouts used to go watch him in high school and if they randomly saw a game where Heyward drew some walks they didn’t have as much to write about. That happens with kids who show plus strike zone command and pitch recognition skills.

    He grew up in the Braves backyard. They had scouted him since he was in middle school.

  85. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    He’s still just 23, so we’re going to see a few ugly games from him season…

  86. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    I think some of you need to exhale a bit.

    He doesn’t “need to do better” today. He needs to get ready for the season.

    That’s why he was working the fastball early and throwing 3-2 changeups. He, and no other pitcher, is in regular season mode.

    He’s going to be in the rotation and isn’t getting yanked anytime soon.

    He needs to get his pitch count up, continue to work on fastball command, and build arm strength.

    He does that, he will have done his job today.

  87. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Oh, it’s just 2 runs….thanks

  88. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    CB,

    Well he could’ve been going with the 1-in-a-1/2 generation comparison. :P

    Be proud of that fastball, Phil.

  89. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Nice tailing action on the fastball.

  90. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    Thank god she took it off the chest.

  91. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Jerkface,

    I’m not saying the curve velocity is the reason why it’s hittable, just a possibility. I am friends with guys from college who are now in the minors. We were talking about a pitcher that came from our college who was drafted in the second round and the guy mentioned that once he’s with a team they’ll change his slow curve to a faster slider because the pitcher throws mid 90′s and his curve was in the 70′s.

  92. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Maybe Phil worked so hard on his change that he didn’t concentrate enough on the curve. I imagine it’s hard for any young pitcher to have to develop all these pitches at the same time.

  93. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    Maybe Phil need’s more 12 o’clock on his curve. He’s thrown to knee-bucklers this inning already.

  94. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    “Does it appear to you that the hitters see the curve ball for a long time? Too much right to left and too slow?”

    Look at how overpowering Hughes fastball has been today. Look at that awful Portera had.

    His curve should fool more hitters than it does because they really have to be sitting fastball.

    Part of it is likely location.

    But at times hitters seem to see the curve really well out of hughes hand and pick it up relatively early.

    Perhaps he’s inconsistent with his arm speed on the pitch? Maybe he doesn’t hide the pitch well? Maybe he’s tipping it in some way?

    I don’t know. It’s just somewhat odd.

  95. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Much nicer. How many pitches was that?

  96. JJ March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Hughes curves this inning look much better. The last one was 75 on the gun.

  97. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    CB,

    You’re right. From BA -

    “When Jason Heyward was in high school, scouts struggled to get a good read on the Atlanta prep prodigy. Opposing teams pitched around him, and his coach struggled to throw a good batting practice, which meant a crosschecker or scouting director could fly in, watch a Heyward game and leave without really ever getting a chance to see what he could do.”

    I was reading another report on him yesterday and I swear they said minor league pitchers pitched around him a lot. Whatever, he’s a stud and on both of my fantasy teams :)

  98. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Besides Vazquez(and maybe Pettite),no starting pitcher has been very good.Shouldn’t this worry the Yankees…?

  99. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Yea I get you Patrick. He just threw a 75 MPH curve that buckled Span, but its possible the movement was better more than the velocity. It could just be getting away from him and spinning up in the zone.

    What are the possibilities for Hughes curve?

    1. Velocity
    2. Tightness of the Break
    3. Location thrown

    Lets see Eiland work with Hughes on these points I hope.

    *breaking news: Hughes now throws 50 mph curve after talk with eiland*

  100. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    ack. that’s needs and two knee-bucklers.

  101. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Predicting pitching outcomes over one inning is as dumb as predicting a season ending injury for Tex after he got hit the other night.

    Funny how some of the same people do both.

    I guess after a 1-2-3 second inning he could be heading to Cooperstown.

  102. Phil the Thrill March 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    That was more like it.

  103. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    CB, maybe it’s good that it’s getting hit in ST as now they know that’s something they have to work on. Would you be concerned or do you think this is something that is fairly easily fixable?

  104. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    saying we think that the pen will be used a lot early is not bridge jumping or overreacting, its just a fact from experience that there may be some short starts in the beginning as history would show us with CC and the lack of work Andy had so far, and Hughes being young.

    We are all still confident that we will win it all.

  105. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Oh CB brought up another thing Hughes can work on: Tipping the pitch.

  106. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Wait, Hughes is good today?? I thought he was having a bad day????

    I’m so confused. My head hurts.

    This place is a fascinating sociological study.

  107. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    A-rod’s embarrassed. lol.

  108. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    It all depends on what hitters see out of the hand. If his release is a bit early, they can pick the arc and the rotation. It can be as simple as that. Reagrdless. The curve/fastball combo is why he has always racked up a lot of ks. He will be fine. Some lined singles happen. It’s not like some guys hit moon shots off of those pitches.

    Say what you want too about Arod. You never see him complain about injuries or look any different.

  109. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    WTH? pull Jetes off the field right now.

  110. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    stuckey, like most outings that aren’t shut outs or dominating performances, there are good and bad things

  111. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Has Phil thrown any changes? I’m taping the game so I can watch this later…..

    Well, the best news is his FB apparently looks very good. Isn’t it always the way that when you have one pitch working, the other one doesn’t?

    I know he threw a tighter curve last spring as I remember the reaction on various boards.

  112. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    “saying we think that the pen will be used a lot early is not bridge jumping or overreacting, its just a fact from experience that there may be some short starts in the beginning as history would show us with CC and the lack of work Andy had so far, and Hughes being young.”

    Saying it in a general discussion is not. Saying in direct response to Hughes having the first inning he did IS.

    It’s not always what’s said but when and why it’s said.

    Context…

  113. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Um, what happened to Jeter?

  114. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Swisher over/under 30 homers this year. I say over. Amazing how much more in shape he looks too.

  115. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    “Oh CB brought up another thing Hughes can work on: Tipping the pitch. ”

    Guess we need to trade him to the Cardinals then.

  116. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Betsy,

    No I’m not worried. He’s going to have a very good season.

    Like any 23 year old pitcher he just has some things to work on. No big deal.

    The runs he gives up today are completely immaterial.

    That’s why I put that first post up – the most important thing for him today is building his fastball command as that’s trailed his off speed stuff today.
    And his fastball has looked very good. So far it’s the strongst that pitch has looked this spring and that’s what I was hoping to see.

  117. Pat M. March 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    CB, It seems to me that Phil doesn’t finish with when throwing the breaking ball….It just doesn’t have that good bite all the time……I have to turn in my selections today, are the Twins an over or under 82 win team. ?????

  118. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    I think it’s fair enough to question Phil’s potential efficiency. He hasn’t been terribly efficient in the past as a starter and he’s relatively young.

    Let’s just hope that we see more of 2nd inning Phil than 1st inning Phil.

    Nothing out of line or trollish. cough-California-cough.

  119. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    There is no measuring stick for any ST outing to gauge regular season performance. It’s bridgejumping.

    Like Posada said yesterday about CC, he feeds off the energy.

    It’s ST. That’s all this is. It’s not important.

  120. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    “stuckey, like most outings that aren’t shut outs or dominating performances, there are good and bad things”

    Exactly, which is why reacting to each and every nuance of a 3 hour game is an exercise in futility.

    It’s like reacting to election returns when 2% of the precincts are reporting.

    If it floats your boat, far be it for me to rain on anyone’s parade, but I reserve the right to find it fascinating.

  121. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    CB, thanks.

    I love his curve, but that’s why he’s 23 and not 33. He may not be sure what kind of curve works best for him.

    That’s very good news about his FB. He was so accurate with that thing in the pen last year, it was scary. He couldn’t have done better at times if he’d gone up and placed the ball in Jorge’s mitt.

    Even if he gives up more runs, I don’t care. The stuff is clearly there, even if it’s not quite consistent.

  122. CB March 31st, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    “Tipping the pitch.”

    No that was the skill set Eiland is supposed to work with Hughes on perfecting.

    Eiland works with Hughes and teaches him how to better tip his pitches in order to actively ruin him.

    That’s the yankees coaching philosophy.

  123. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    That’s about as long an out as you can get.

  124. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Good swing vs a lefty for Granderson, hit it 400 feet up the middle

  125. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Pat M,

    I’d definitely go over on 82 but that’s just my opinion.

  126. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Granderson just missed. Sounds like it was close to the end of the bat. Nice at bat against a lefty, though.

  127. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Twins always seem to find a way and they have the best lineup in the central and always seem to put together enough pitching. I’d go over as well.

  128. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I wonder how the future of Phil Hughes career is going to look in the next half inning…?????

  129. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    oh man but one thing to consider, they will be playing at Target field this year. No more homerdome.

  130. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Stuckey, I don’t think people would do this with AJ, Andy, Javy or CC, but it’s a different story with Phil (or Joba). Phil hasn’t started in awhile; fans are curious and want to see what he can potentially bring to the table as the #5 starter (for this year). It’s just the process of watching a SP grow up before your eyes – it’s fascinating (and sometimes ugly/pretty all at the same time).

  131. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Twins pitching is pretty underwhelming but jerkface is right they have the best lineup in that division.

  132. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    The Twins are usually nowhere close to .500 on the road, they might have some trouble getting used to Target’s quirks

  133. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    The NAME IS NINO :x

  134. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Nice, Jala-Pena!

  135. m March 31st, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Lots to feast on in the Central, over’s probably a pretty safe bet. Bet I wouldn’t bet on it. :P

  136. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Betsy – Vasquez is going to be on “intimidated by NY” watch ALL years.

    Pettitte is going to be on “he’s old and done” watch all year.

    Burnett will be on “good AJ/bad AJ watch all year.

    CC will be on “is he an ace/isn’t he AND “will his high inning counts the last three years catch up to him” all year.

    I’ll give this to bridgejumpers, they’re equal opportunity.

  137. bru March 31st, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Lincecum’s velocity is down and it probably doesn’t matter
    Tue Feb 23,2010 11:00 AM ET By Craig Calcaterra
    Yahoo!’s Tim Brown has a feature on Tim Lincecum, the central part of which is Lincecum’s diminishing velocity, which has gone from mid-90s in his rookie year to a consistent 93 mph in 2008 and down to 91-92 last season, at least according to pitching coach Dave Righetti:

    “I’m aware my velocity wasn’t where it was,” he said. “I don’t feel like it’s anything to be scared about. I’ll just learn how to pitch better.”
    Whether he’s pitching at 91, 94 or 98, he said, “I’m not sure it’s a choice. You go out there with what you have. I’m still going out there with the same kind of confidence.”

    Of course over that time his strikeout rate, WHIP, ERA, K/BB ratio, and home run rate have improved so it’s not like anyone is worried.

    The scariest thing about Tim Lincecum? He’s right about the age where Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez took a step forward and transformed from really good pitchers with awesome tools to otherwordly pitchers who had awesome tools and truly understood the game of pitching.

  138. Al March 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    That’s what Pena is making the team…

  139. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Girardi says Joba can start again in the future.

  140. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    What is that wrist tattoo Joba has?

  141. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Overall, aside from hanging a couple of curveballs, I think he’s looked quite good in these 3 innings.

  142. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Nice cutter

  143. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Strike out on the cutter, just a little bit of action on the pitch

  144. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Hughes crusing now. Wonder how Ian Kennedy will fair in the NL this year.

  145. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    “The Twins are usually nowhere close to .500 on the road, they might have some trouble getting used to Target’s quirks”

    Just turn the heat off in the visiting clubhouse/dugout

  146. Clay March 31st, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Damon called out Wang too… so it wasn’t just Hughes. Said he can’t keep going 1 inning and killing the pen because it affects games the next 2-3 nights too because the pen is shot.

    If he could call out a former 2-time 19 game winner, he can call out a rookie.

  147. upstate kate March 31st, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Well lucky for me we have a TV in our conference room, which I just have to keep wandering back to…

    Either Kenny or Tino made the point that Phil would be using different pitches in a regular game on certain counts, but no need to tip his hand during ST…which is just practice.

    M
    I think it is Flaherty who talks about pitchers being “proud” of their pitches.

  148. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release March 31st, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Phil Hughes is in beast mode. :)

  149. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    No takers on Chamberlain hits 95 on the (YES) gun action?

  150. KWAN March 31st, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Nomar is a pretty good commentator

  151. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Girardi also said Joba is in the bullpen for the year.

    Hopefully, that will stop the “put him in the rotation” talk if/when an injury or poor performance takes place.

  152. Wave Your Hat March 31st, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Just finished watching Hughes, he looked good.

    Most of you folks would be a lot happier if you weren’t following ST pitch by pitch. Unless you are Joe Girardi or Dave Eiland, you just aren’t going to learn that much.

  153. Patrick March 31st, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    bru,

    Interesting about Lincecum.

    I’m looking at his velocity #’s on fangraphs. He averaged 94.2 on the fastball in 2007. 94.1 in 2008. 92.4 in 2009.

    It’s probably just an aberration. If he is averaging around 92 again this year I’ll think something is up.

  154. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Dammit I thought Jetes was throwing elbows.

  155. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    Swish with a nice catch

  156. upstate kate March 31st, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    some thoughts on the Twin’s new stadium:
    1. the Yankees had to get used to a new stadium last year, and were very successful
    2. the Twins will figure out the quirks a lot quicker than opposing teams
    3. they can turn playing in the cold weather into a home field advantage, as the Yankees did over the Angels

  157. The Phranchise March 31st, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    5 ks.

  158. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    1. the Yankees had to get used to a new stadium last year, and were very successful
    2. the Twins will figure out the quirks a lot quicker than opposing teams
    3. they can turn playing in the cold weather into a home field advantage, as the Yankees did over the Angels

    1. NYS is pretty much the same dimensions as old YS. Other than the outfield wall with the scoreboard being straight instead of curved.
    2. True
    3. The twins have never played at home in cold weather, it might be a detriment to them. Though their 2 best hitters should be used to the cold being from that area. (morneau in canada and mauer in minn)

  159. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Not many hitters are going to hit that letter high fastball.

  160. Phil the Thrill March 31st, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    getting swings and misses on fastballs is good.

  161. kloth&jeet March 31st, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    What is that wrist tattoo Joba has?

    ——————————–

    It’s a Jesus fish with a cross in it:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/rlh2374/3373621833/

  162. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Can’t ask for much more from your #5 starter.

    He’s throwing the ball very well.

  163. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Jesus is NOT a fish. he is a catcher.

  164. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Pat M,

    Just looked at that site you pointed me to prior pinnacle sports to get updated lines.

    I have to say – the house has done a very good job!

    But here are the 5-6 teams I like best:

    1. Indians over 75.5
    2. Astros under 74.5
    3. Yankees over 94.5
    4. Padres over 71.5
    5. Cards over 88.5
    6. Jays under 71

    And here are my picks for the rest:

    7. Diamondbacks under 82.5
    8. Braves over 85.5 (like this one too)
    9. Orioles under 75 (like this one too)
    10. Sox under 94.5
    11. Cubs over 82
    12. White sox over 82.5
    13. Reds under 79.5
    14. Rockies over 85
    15. Tigers under 80
    16. Marlins over 81
    17. Royals under 72.5
    18. Angels over 82.5
    19. Dodgers over 84
    20. Brewers over 80
    21. Twins over 82.5
    22. Mets under 81 (like this one too)
    23. Oakland under 80
    24. Phillies over 91.5
    25. Pirates over 70.5
    26. Giants under 81.5
    27. Mariners under 83.5
    28. Rays over 89.5
    29. Randers under 85
    30. Nats over 72

    Hope this helps but don’t hold me to it!! Not a wagering type myself.

  165. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    A-rod baby

  166. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    New pre game ritual, throw a baseball at Al’s ankle.

  167. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Duensing appears to be a pretty smart pitcher (except for that pitch) since he’s come up….not great stuff but smart with what he does with it.

  168. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Alex’s bat speed is just astounding.

  169. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    “Jesus is NOT a fish. he is a catcher.”

    Though by the sound of it, perhaps Jesus should be on a fish diet.

  170. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    This is the first game this spring where we’ve seen Hughes show the same plus fastball he had out of the pen last year.

    He’s looked terrific. This is exactly where he wants to get to before the season starts.

  171. Bring in the Goose March 31st, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    What Might Have Been for the Twins…

    This team had it’s chances against us in the ALDS – baserunning blunders and Carlos Gomez’s inability to drive in a runner with bases loaded off David Robertson cost them the chance to tie the 2009 ALDS, 1-1.

    Also, a potential rotation of Santana, Garza, Liriano lost to the wind…imagine Garza in that playoff rotation against us last year.

  172. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Lotta armside run on that fastball. Who said Hughes fastball is straight?

  173. Joe from Long Island March 31st, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Santana, Garza, Liriano (pre-injury) – that would have been some rotation. Gone with the wind….

  174. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    wow hughes is cruisin now.

  175. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Not the best job of tracking that one for Gardner. wind or sun, he looked to be in trouble from the start.

  176. JohnC March 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Looks like the bridgejumpers can get down off the ledge for now.

  177. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    and as soon as i say that, he is done.

  178. Phil the Thrill March 31st, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Gardy needs to catch that.

  179. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Chad

    Arsenal are on right now in a huge 1st leg matchup with Barca on Fox Soccer Channel.

    Good luck to Arsenal today.

  180. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    Logan hitting 95 on the ESPN gun

  181. Pat M. March 31st, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    CB, Thank you for your input……

  182. Ralph D'Ambrosio March 31st, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    i like logan….

  183. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Ok, just got back from lunch – it sounds like Phil looked good. His stuff is just very good – underrated perhaps because of the velocity issue. I see he threw some good cutters, too – nice.

  184. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    I’ve been impressively shocked by Logan this spring so far. I sort of figured him to bullpen fodder at scranton.

  185. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Logan may have been a real find; it’s too early to say at this point, but for a throw in ? He’s had an awfully good spring. My word, though – how tall is he?

  186. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Cesc Fabergas is LOST today for the gunners.

    He’s injured in a parallel reality and unavailable for games outside of san francisco.

  187. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    That would have been a perfect bunt by Gardner if the pitcher was left handed.

  188. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Arsenal-Barca…what a game this will be

    Too bad van Persie is injured

  189. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    The only issue with Phil is efficiency – he has a hard time getting past the 5th inning (or so it seems).

  190. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    CB

    Was that a joke? If so, LOL.

    If not, Cesc in the starting XI

  191. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    By the way, for any fan of Heroes on here, go look at a picture of Cesc Fabregas. He bears a slight resemblance to that character, Sylar. I think his name is Zach Quinto.

  192. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Neshek could really be nasty against the right handed batters.

  193. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Tino there is a spot for him, it’s batter’s box.

  194. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Got to find a place for Miranda. He’d be killin’ it in our park.

  195. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    CR9,

    Yes. My attempt at goonies humor. I saw that Cesc was playing. Wegner tried to gravely cast doubt on his availability as of yesterday saying that were the game played yesterday Fabergas wouldn’t have played.

  196. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    D-rob looks 11 years old today, especially how he hopped the BP fence

  197. Patrick from CT March 31st, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Phil pitched OK today, but let’s remember this lineup he faced is not all that good.
    I have not seen much of Logan, but it seems to me is gotton some good hitter out this year. He’ll be on the team if Ace goes to the DL.

  198. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth)
    March 31st, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    The only issue with Phil is efficiency – he has a hard time getting past the 5th inning (or so it seems).

    ————————————————————

    He was only scheduled for 70-75 pitches, so he was on target for 6+ innings with a 100 pitch count.

  199. bru March 31st, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Patrick
    March 31st, 2010 at 1:59 pm
    bru,

    Interesting about Lincecum.

    I’m looking at his velocity #’s on fangraphs. He averaged 94.2 on the fastball in 2007. 94.1 in 2008. 92.4 in 2009.

    It’s probably just an aberration. If he is averaging around 92 again this year I’ll think something is up.

    ——————————————————–

    agree

    my point is that his velo dropped for a few years & he is getting better at the same time while maintaining his k rate & winning a cy

    a lot of factors are in play

    command,conditioning,mechanics,developing pitches,not tipping pitches & most important understanding how to pitch/keeping hitters guessing wrong

    imo hughes has a better chance at achieving this than joba does right now

    cashman telling kay that he does not ever see joba getting the velo back that he once had

    he said we would have seen it by now

  200. YankeeFan4Eva March 31st, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Now why didn’t Juan Miranda ever get a shot to play in the bigs?

  201. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    CB

    LOL it is then.

    __

    Any Yankees fan, that does not have a favorite team in European Futbol, can you please pray for the quick recovery of Wazza, Wayne Rooney, for Manchester United…. Since Man U are the Yankees of European Futbol!

  202. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    ?Even though it was just spring training, it was good to see PJ Pilittere hit a homer the other day. He’s been at trenton for a long time and looks like he’ll be there again this season.

  203. Derek Leader March 31st, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    I like Manchester United solely because of the movie “Eurotrip”

  204. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    Because we have a lifer on 1B and that’s where Miranda plays.

    Give the man an OFer’s glove and let him pretend to play RF.

  205. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    GB, as always a font of knowledge. Thanks! By the way, there was a whole category on Jeopardy yesterday about Nurse Karloff’s close relative, Frankenstein. I thought of you.

  206. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    Now why didn’t Juan Miranda ever get a shot to play in the bigs?

    Blocked, wasn’t a complete hitter until last season.

  207. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    The Hell with soccer. Never could stand watching that game or being forced to play it in phys ed in school.

  208. Glory Glory Manu United March 31st, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Barca all the way (long time reader first time participator)

    I am still trying to recover from yesterday.

  209. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    “Since Man U are the Yankees of European Futbol!”

    How many managers have the Yankees had since Fergusen started running things at Man U?

    Alas, the Galacticos might be the better comparison in certain ways.

  210. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    OMG

    Barca just nearly took the 1-0 lead with the all important away goal, but a GREAT SAVE!

  211. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Just a question to CR9 is the CR9 referring to Ronaldo?

  212. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth)
    March 31st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    GB, as always a font of knowledge. Thanks! By the way, there was a whole category on Jeopardy yesterday about Nurse Karloff’s close relative, Frankenstein. I thought of you.

    ————————————————————

    LMAO. I’m not sure if you’re developing a mean streak or if you didn’t mean it the way it was written, Betsy.

  213. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Joe Torre/Alex Ferguson.

    I am a Madrid fan as well, because they are the Yankees of Spanish Futbol, but Manchester are the most decorated team in England, and they carry themselves with the same class as the Yankees.

    Another Great Save by Almunia!

  214. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Love the Yankees.Hate Man u…

    They’re boring.And Wayne Rooney is overrrated

    Madrid is more like the Yankees.They buy the best players and they won the most

  215. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    lol @ his delivery

  216. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    OMG What a game already.

    Zlatan just had a tap in from right in front of the net, and hit it over!!!

  217. Billy March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    PJ is a great guy and would have a lot better chances in another organization.

  218. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    I’m taking out my latent frustrations on you, GB, lol. I meant that I felt bad for you (yeah, that’s what I meant, lol). How are you feeling?

  219. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    I’m taking out my latent frustrations on you, GB, lol. I meant that I felt bad for you (yeah, that’s what I meant, lol). How are you feeling?

  220. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    You cannot say the great United is boring Chelsea or Liverpool maybe but not United.

  221. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Yes. CR9 is for Cristiano!! One of the top 5 HOTTEST men in the world!!!

    Also, many players want to play for Madrid or Man U at some point in their careers, much like the honor it is to play for the Yankees.

    Read Bobby Abreu (Madrid fan) in a recent ESPN Magazine article!!!! Abreu still has great things to say about the Yanks!!

  222. Bob March 31st, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Phil as #5 and Joba in the pen, should be awesome. I think we can count on Mo helping Joba too for advice and game preparation.

  223. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Cristiano is also one of the top 5 most handsomest rapists.

  224. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Wayne Rooney, overrated?????

    This year, first year without Ronaldo, SAF adjusted his position, and Rooney as a result, has singlehandedly put us in position to win the PL and the CL.

  225. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    I supported Ronaldo when he was with Manu Utd but not anymore he is a spoiled brat who stops playing when things don’t go his way I will take Rooney or Messi any day.

    The similarity between the Yankees and United for me is the hunger to win which I love in them both.

  226. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Fine, let me just clarify my comparisons.

    Madrid, Yankees of La Liga.

    Man U, Yankees of England.

    Chelsea, Red Sox of England, even Matt Damon and Will Ferrell are fans of both teams.

    Man City, Mets of England!

  227. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Glory Glory

    You can’t hold it against Cris. It was his dream to play for Madrid. He’ll one day come back to Man U.

    So what if he’s a brat. He is SMOKING HOT!! When you’re that hot, you can be a brat!!!

  228. CB March 31st, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Rooney is terrific but the attempts to argue that he’s better than Messi are forced and do over rate him.

    Yanks have had 9 managers since Fergusen has been at Man U.

  229. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth)
    March 31st, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    I’m taking out my latent frustrations on you, GB, lol. I meant that I felt bad for you (yeah, that’s what I meant, lol). How are you feeling?

    ————————————————————

    Not bad, Betsy. It only took you 5 minutes to dig your way out of that one.

    I’m doing fine, Doll. Just a little tired, but, saw the Twins this morning, so all is good. Thank you for asking. Hope all is well your way.

  230. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    OMG ANother save by Almunia. Barca have literally had 9 great chances.

    Another Save!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  231. Derek Leader March 31st, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    My baby takes the morning train….

    [please tell me someone here has seen Eurotrip]

  232. baseballfab March 31st, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Will Joba EVER throw at 97-99 again?

  233. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) March 31st, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Hughes’ outing was much better than the stat line looks. He showed alot of the aggressiveness he had in the ‘pen last year which is a great sign. If this is the worst pitcher in our rotation then we are in fantastic shape.

    It looks like the hitters are getting a good look at Hughes’ curveball as they are getting much better swings on it than they should. I wondered if he was tipping it somehow. If they can figure out why they get such good swings and fix it then Hughes could really take off. That pitch could be a knee buckling hammer strikeout pitch.

  234. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    Man u will win the Cl?haha they wish!They lost last night remember.And Rooney is out for weeks and Robben will be back for Bayern

  235. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    CB,

    Rooney is the man but I have to agree with you here. Rooney at least has to have one more season like this in order to even be close to Messi.

    Although he has done better for England than Messi did for Argentina

  236. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) March 31st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    Easy inning for Joba

  237. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    We’ve had 9 managers since the mid 80s???? Holy ****

    My comparison was not based on managers, but the Yankees did have a pretty decent manager in Torre for a decade and a half.

  238. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    My baby takes the morning train….

    [please tell me someone here has seen Eurotrip]

    ____

    LOVE IT

  239. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    It’s obvious that Rooney is among the top 3 players in the world.

    Also, Messi is the best player in the world, but he has such talent around him.

    Rooney, as I said (having watched every game this year) has singlehandedly put us in a position to win both the PL and CL.

    Roger

    I never said that we were going to win. I said he put in a position to win!

    As for next Wednesday, even without Wazza, I have to believe that our team will come out with fire, instead of playing like the garbage we played for all 90 minutes yesterday.

  240. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    It is hard to compare because Fergie is the one who buys the players but the Yankee managers have to work with what they have (which to be fair is generally pretty good)

  241. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    What has Rooney done better for England?What did they win…?Or even got close to win?Nothing…

    Messi is so much better.It’s not even close

  242. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    GB, you dirty old man, calling me a doll. I’m glad you’re doing well – and that you got to see two sets of Twins today (get it? Twins and twins?).

    I can’t complain about today, especially as Phil showed his good FB, lol. Also, I made up with a friend that I was in a fight with, so I’m happy about that.

    If anyone is watching the game on ESPN, what did Sutcliffe say about Phil? Thanks!

  243. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Also, it cannot be forgotten the the PL is a tougher game than La Liga.

    By that, I mean it’s more physically brutal in the PL.

    In La Liga, it is more “the beautiful game” that others like to refer to futbol as.

  244. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    CR9,

    Berba-gol will be the difference if the White Pele doesn’t play.

    I still have faith we will destroy Bayern whether Robben plays or not.

  245. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    There’s no better time than ST for a particular pitch to get hit. They can work on Phil’s curve now that they know there may be an issue…….

  246. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    AHHHH, Nasri nearly puts Arsenal on top!

  247. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Roger,

    England qualified early while the Argies struggled.

    Messi didn’t do much in those matches. While Rooney scored and setup goals in his.

  248. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Glory Glory

    Yeah, Berba will have to be the key. Nani played poorly yesterday. Hopefully, Valencia gets the start.

    I believe we’ll win also, being at the Theater of Dreams (much like Old Yankee Stadium!!!)

  249. Erin March 31st, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    GreenBeret7
    March 31st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    The Hell with soccer. Never could stand watching that game or being forced to play it in phys ed in school.

    ******************************
    GB, you sound like me! lol

  250. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    I am hoping Phil has a year like Rooney has this year, there is nothing sweeter than seeing a player from your own system grow right in front of your eyes to be a great.

  251. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release March 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    @Ledger_Yankees Pitch count for Hughes 88/61 strikes.

  252. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    I have to agree that the Pl is tougher then La Liga

  253. Erin March 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    YankeesWFAN #1 sign that spring training is too long: Reggie Jackson in front of the Yankee dugout doing the YMCA.
    6 minutes ago

    :lol:

  254. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    clay condrey apparently in our projected bullpen, nice one ESPN

  255. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Glory

    Also, I am more concerned with this weekend’s clash with Chelsea. I am concerned the strategy of SAF will be to play for the nil nil draw.

    And our defense makes some really bad defensive breakdowns during games, as evidenced by yesterdays’ unnecessary 2nd goal for Bayern. There was no reason for that goal to happen.

  256. JoeyA March 31st, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Anybody catch ESPNs bullpen list for the Yanks. They had Clay Condrey in it and Mo out…

    Was Mo optioned to AAA? I didn’t know he had options left. I guess Clay beat him out for that final spot.

    Thanks for everything Mo. :)

  257. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Erin
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    GreenBeret7
    March 31st, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    The Hell with soccer. Never could stand watching that game or being forced to play it in phys ed in school.

    ******************************
    GB, you sound like me! lol

    ————————————————————

    I hated that game as much as I hated dodge ball. Never saw the fun or the excitement in it. I just fould it totally boring.

  258. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    GB

    You should watch real Futbol. It is so entertaining!

    Soccer is that cr*p that is played here in the US. MLS. Although I do make sure to root for the Red Bull and root against the New England Revolution!!!

  259. Bronx Jeers March 31st, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    “The Hell with soccer. Never could stand watching that game or being forced to play it in phys ed in school.”

    Soccer’s what you play when you’re too small for football and can’t hit a baseball.

  260. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    And that was the final comparison, aside from Old Yankee Stadium and the Theater of Dreams, the Yanks play in the toughest league in all of baseball, as do the Red Devils!!

  261. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    That’s a pretty good ratio of strikes to pitches for Phil…

  262. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    That goal broke my heart…but I believe that without Essien Chelsea are not that great.

    Although Drogba can change the game…that game will decide the league.

    Fergie better put an attacking team for both upcoming games.

  263. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Go to 1 game in Europe you will be sold

  264. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    clay condrey apparently in our projected bullpen, nice one ESPN

    ____

    i thought that mariano rivera kid showed some potential.

  265. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Um, ok Erin, lol….

  266. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    “Soccer’s what you play when you’re too small for football and can’t hit a baseball.”

    Or it’s what you play when you grow up in 3rd World Countries, and have nothing but a round ball to play with, and it’s all you know.

  267. Erin March 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    GreenBeret7
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    I hated that game as much as I hated dodge ball. Never saw the fun or the excitement in it. I just fould it totally boring.

    **************************
    Ugh-I forgot all about dodgeball. My friends and I would go out to the center of the gym for the start of the game, and then immediately go sit down on the bleachers as soon as the game started, claiming that we were out. No one ever caught on. lol

  268. Pat M. March 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Phils’ curve doesn’t always have the full bite that it ussually has….He has a devasting breaking ball, however as of late only 1 of 3 really has it’s full break and it catch’s too much of the plate and big league hitters will keep their hands back and will square it up more often than not

  269. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    Who the heck is Clay Condrey, lol?

  270. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    May I say I’m stunned at the lack of talk about a certain pitcher that pitched a 1-2-3 inning just a few moments ago…

  271. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Pat M, what do you think accounts for that? It’s not like he doesn’t have a nasty curve when it’s right….He can spend time working on that since the Yanks won’t need a 5th starter for awhile.

  272. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Who the heck is Clay Condrey, lol?

    Phillies pitcher.

    Ho ho is gonna be good

  273. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    This is why I love Futbol as well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  274. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    i think eveeryone is too impressed with the yankees offensive explosion this afternoon to talk about Joba.

  275. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    I dont think SAF is going to attack this weekend. We are in control of the league, so a draw is just fine, at least to Fergie (and myself, I’d take a draw without Roo).

  276. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    GB,

    I think the only way for you to appreciate the game is to visit a country where they have passion for it, I guarantee you will end up loving it.

    It is like me, I never really followed Baseball until I came to N. America…now I hate the Sox and any Boston team (Celtics, Patriots, Bruins) and I love the Yankees.

  277. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    SLAMA!

  278. Camilo Gerardo March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Can’t keep Miranda, Montero, Vazquez down for long…

  279. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Roger

    A Liverpudlian?

  280. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Is there really nowhere for Juan Miranda? :?

  281. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Like I said, find a place for him.

    I’m sure those here who protest that he’s “not ready” for the majors may be reconsidering their stance.

    Ready as rain – to rake.

  282. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth)
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    GB, you dirty old man, calling me a doll. I’m glad you’re doing well – and that you got to see two sets of Twins today (get it? Twins and twins?).

    I can’t complain about today, especially as Phil showed his good FB, lol. Also, I made up with a friend that I was in a fight with, so I’m happy about that.

    If anyone is watching the game on ESPN, what did Sutcliffe say about Phil? Thanks!

    ————————————————————

    I’m not dirty. I just took a shower.

    Yeah, Hughes looked good except for hanging those two curve balls in the first inning. He had a crackling high hard fastball and that was good to see.

    Park has been sensational this spring. He came in late, so, he must have been doing a lot of pitching this past winter. What an asset he could be if Aceves is out for any length of time.

    My twins looked great today. Anthony is a cute little guy and Sidney is a real beauty. They’re gaining weight and are getting to be more active.

  283. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Gary Throne, Aaron Boone, and Nomar are calling the game on ESPN. Both liked what they saw from Hughes. Actually, they have raved about all of our players… not a typical ESPN broadcast lol

    A very good broadcast to listen to… Nomar is very good so far.

  284. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Roger

    If you are Pudlian, I think I saw Jon Arne Riise in that video!!

    Remember that own goal for ‘Pool in the CL?

  285. Allen March 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Big fan of Chelsea… class organization, class fans, class players. One of the most popular teams in Spain as well…

  286. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    stuckey -

    I just tuned in – I’ve been out and about. How’d Joba do?

  287. Brandon Awesome (B/c I'm 365 + days of AWESOME!) March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    “Is there really nowhere for Juan Miranda? ”

    BB – Juan Miranda

  288. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    oh goody, Slama, this guy was all over XM the other day as a potential closer for the twins

  289. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Doreen,

    He’s the DH if Nicky goes down, and the 1B is Teix does.

    But I want to see them give him an OF glove. He can certainly hide in RF. With that bat – I’ll take the sub-par defense. He has the arm.

  290. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    Jim March 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Gary Throne, Aaron Boone, and Nomar are calling the game on ESPN. Both liked what they saw from Hughes. Actually, they have raved about all of our players… not a typical ESPN broadcast lol

    A very good broadcast to listen to… Nomar is very good so far.

    I’m surprised myself. Boone and Nomar are doing a good job.

  291. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    I’d rather have Juan Miranda than Thames

  292. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    CR9

    no way!haha.I’m all Ajax!

    But that song..with that crowd WOW

  293. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    I think it is good for Joba just to do his work and stay out of the spotlight for a little while until he reclaims his rightful position as the teams fifth ace

  294. Blank Check March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    When Nick Johnson goes on the DL, that is when Miranda will get his chance.

    No way he can play left field. And there is no other spot open.

  295. ariel March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    As I watch Juan Miranda, I see a smoother version of Kendry Morales.

  296. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    Glory

    You are by far the best poster on this site. You hate every Boston team!!!!!!!!

    I’m sorry I cant reciprocate though. I have so much hate for the Boston teams, it is not healthy for me to hate the Pudlians or Chelsea or Barca, or City, or Arsenal.

    Of those teams, I actually have respect for Barca and Arsenal.

  297. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Glory Glory Man United
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    GB,

    I think the only way for you to appreciate the game is to visit a country where they have passion for it, I guarantee you will end up loving it.

    It is like me, I never really followed Baseball until I came to N. America…now I hate the Sox and any Boston team (Celtics, Patriots, Bruins) and I love the Yankees.

    ————————————————————When I went to Europe or any other country as a trip, it sure as Hell wasn’t to go watch a game that I couldn’t stand.

  298. mick March 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Anybody know the status of Arod?
    He fouled one off his foot and I wonder if he will be out for the season?

  299. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Too bad they couldn’t fuse Miranda and Gardner.

    Of course, they’d have a power lefty bat with great speed, a decent arm, but who got poor jumps :D .

  300. H-Town March 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Nomar and Boone have been very impressive

    And Throne is a much better play-by-play guy than Ravech, O’Brein, Shulman, etc. or any of those other clowns….

  301. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    Roger you should see the Turkish teams I don’t think I have seen more rabid fans in my life.

  302. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Groan……..

    I’m glad I taped the game so I can see Phil for myself…I’m very happy about the FB. He’s just going to be a terrific pitcher.

    Chan Ho has been fantastic; we got lucky that the guy miscalculated the market because he looks solid.

    Aww, GB – that’s so sweet. I always wanted to be a twin, but I think it’s too late to rectify that now.

    Jerkface, thanks!

  303. tex's friend March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    im sure if nick johnson goes down, we will see miranda. not hoping for that though.

  304. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    “March 31st, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Big fan of Chelsea… class organization, class fans, class players. One of the most popular teams in Spain as well…”

    I wont result to insults, but ??????????

    First, they are England.

    Second, they bought their first championship a in a while in 2004 IIRC when a Russian Mobster took over their team.

    Third, they try to buy every player like the Red Sox.

    Fourth, they act like scumbags, like the Red Sox. John Terry/Jason Varitek. Didier Drogba(though I like his antics)/Manny Ramirez.

  305. robby rigno March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Enough with the soccer talk, noone cares!! This is a YANKEE site ppl.

  306. Bronx Jeers March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    “Or it’s what you play when you grow up in 3rd World Countries, and have nothing but a round ball to play with, and it’s all you know.”

    Not Mariano…Thank God.

    And baseball is growing.

  307. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Jerkface
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    I’d rather have Juan Miranda than Thames
    ====

    Me too. I’d rather have a superior lefty off the bench than an inferior righty.

    But he doesn’t play the OF.

  308. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    I would rather have Miranda or Garko than Thames.

  309. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    Well, I don’t want to wish injury on anyone, that’s for sure.

    I don’t like young players on the bench – not so much because they’re not as good as veterans, but that they should play more than sit.

    Hope he stays ready!

  310. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Jim, thanks!

  311. robby rigno March 31st, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Chan Ho Park has been absolutely filthy – I wonder if he’s Mo’s setup man, as of right now he has to be. He’s throwing that good.

  312. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Nick Johnson will not go down. Say only positive things.

  313. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Roger

    Ummmm.. Since Ajax have no shot at winning the CL for a while, shouldnt you adopt a team that does?

    And since VDS led Ajax to a CL IIRC, shouldnt you like Man U?

  314. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Doreen – 2010 GTLU
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    stuckey -

    I just tuned in – I’ve been out and about. How’d Joba do?

    ————————————————————

    Kind of hard to say how good the pitches were, Doreen. They were mostly strikes and he got quick outs, but, they were all minor leaguers. If he threw 10 pitches, I’d be surprised.

  315. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Doreen, not sure… not anywhere I can watch the game. He got 1-2-3 outs on 2 gbs and a FO. Someone suggested he wasn’t throwing 97 to 99.

    So I’m going to guess he was around 93 again…

  316. ariel March 31st, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Slamma (sic) is no easy mark. If you watched the graphics (which the YES announcers ignored) you would have noted that until Juan unloaded his ERA was 0.00. His minor league record is off the charts, but not being a high draft choice he has gone unnoticed, until this spring.

  317. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Did anyone else hear, “Just 1 more ken singleton, please!” from some lady on the YES broadcast?

    What you doin’, Kenny? Or whom?

  318. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    CR9

    Amen!Hate Chelsea

  319. Banks March 31st, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    There are a lot of players who are unsigned that I would rather have over Thames

    Not exactly a high bar to reach.

  320. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Awwww, Cesc just got a yellow card, and now is out of the 2nd leg in the Nou Camp :(

  321. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    But he doesn’t play the OF.

    The yankees don’t need 5 outfielders. Thats what I don’t get.

  322. Ed - campaigning for Josh Willingham (it worked for Gaudin) March 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    “I would rather have Miranda or Garko than Thames.”

    Brandon and I had been campaigning for Garko since last offseason before Cashman went out to sign Teixiera.

  323. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Doreen – 2010 GTLU
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    Well, I don’t want to wish injury on anyone, that’s for sure.
    I don’t like young players on the bench – not so much because they’re not as good as veterans, but that they should play more than sit.
    Hope he stays ready!
    ====

    Yeah, but he’s not a typical “young” player in that he’s a professional hitter.

    He’s one of those bats that can sit and hit.

    I also expect him to really take off against ML pitching. He’s one of those guys whose bat will rise to the occasion.

  324. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Too bad for Cesc and say bye bye to Arsenal

  325. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    really nice three player relay from right. All perfect throws.

  326. pat March 31st, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    I know it’s only ST but walking off against the Twins today would be picking right up where they left off last year and have Gardenhire talking to himself, wouldn’t it?

  327. I HATE SOCCER March 31st, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    stop talking soccer….

  328. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Jerkface
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    But he doesn’t play the OF.

    The yankees don’t need 5 outfielders. Thats what I don’t get.
    ====

    The problem is, the collection they have are one-side hitters. So they think they need more of them. They also want a RH power bat off the bench.

  329. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    personally i’d rather gary sheffield, he’s still out there, always a dangerous bat

  330. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    may not need Yanks 5 outfielders but they don’t need 5 first basemen, either.

  331. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    And I hate people who call it soccer…

  332. Ninja Burglar March 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    I have to keep reminding myself that Hughes is only 23. He’s just been around for so many seasons already.

  333. whatever March 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    RANDY WINN IS DONE, the guy cannot hit a 84 mph MEATBALL right down the middle.. if the Yankees don’t release him they better reevaluate their decision mistake.. WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY.

  334. GreenBeret7 March 31st, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    ***Yanks may not need*** 5 outfielders

  335. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    stop talking soccer….
    ___________-
    its not even a real sport………. :)

  336. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA – we call it SOCCER

  337. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    “Brandon and I had been campaigning for Garko since last offseason before Cashman went out to sign Teixiera.”

    Good call. He’s younger, and better against LHP than Thames, and since neither would play the OF much, if at all, it would seem that the time is right.

  338. greg March 31st, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    You don’t want Garko.

    As usual, player released…….LoHud commentators campaign for the Yanks to sign him.

  339. Carl March 31st, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    Who wants pie!

  340. bodhisattva - Destiny Wears Pinstripes March 31st, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    I covered the ’94 World Cup. It was a blast. European journalists are very different – much more analytical about the sport they cover.

    I am looking forward to the WC, although I do prefer my soccer on the rocks ;) .

  341. pat March 31st, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    I listened for a few innings on ESPN and Aaron and Nomar have been good.

  342. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:39 pm

    Roger

    They have to call it soccer here, because of our own football.

    What an entertaining first half of the Arsenal game.

    It was a wide open field, back and forth action.

  343. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    “You don’t want Garko.”

    No, I do.

  344. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Jerkface, I notice you posted about Phil’s change on NYYFan.. I guess today it wasn’t there, but scouts told Joel Sherman (it was in a recent article) that it was a plus pitch. I guess in order for it to really be plus, he’s got to be consistently good with it, correct? Considering where Phil started off from, I wouldn’t expect his change to be plus right away; it would be great if the the possibility was there, though.

  345. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    CR9,

    Respectfully i say that please bring that conversation to a soccer forum, not here. Thanks

  346. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    “As usual, player released…….LoHud commentators campaign for the Yanks to sign him.”

    Yeah, I hate when people make suggestions in order to improve the glaring weaknesses on the team.

  347. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Younger isn’t always better. He’s not a better off the bench hitter than Thames.

    He hadn’t shown he can hit coming off the bench in any of his stops. Most of his offensive numbers came when he was playing regularly in Cleveland.

  348. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    bodhi

    I am highly anticipating the World Cup as well. I am praying every the Yanks are in first place in the east by 10 games when the WC starts, so I can fully enjoy it.

    But the problem with the WC is, that referees take control and like to make themselves noticed (like that’s new ;) ), and often times decide games.

  349. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Glaring weakness? when was the last time the yanks finished a yr with the same bench player that started the yr lol can you tell me? last yr we picked up eric kinske, brought up pena and cervelli, we started the yr with like noone off the bench so relax ppl

  350. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    SJ

    It’s doubtful whether Thames can hit at all.

  351. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    “Yeah, I hate when people make suggestions in order to improve the glaring weaknesses on the team.”

    “Glaring weaknesses”…

    Really??? lol

  352. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    robby s

    Why does it matter when a team improves? If Garko, bombs, you replace him.

  353. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Miranda could do what Thames does.No need to spend that money

  354. Banks March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Ben Affleck is a Chelsea fan, i think

  355. greg March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Rich in NJ
    March 31st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    “As usual, player released…….LoHud commentators campaign for the Yanks to sign him.”
    Yeah, I hate when people make suggestions in order to improve the glaring weaknesses on the team.

    ————————-

    Sure. OK.

    Do some homework.

  356. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    WINN = Womack

  357. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    robby s

    Respectfully, this forum does not discriminate on what can be posted about besides politics. If you do not like my posts, then skip by them! Thanks

  358. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    “Really??? lol”

    REALLY!!! LOL!!!

  359. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    I guess in order for it to really be plus, he’s got to be consistently good with it, correct? Considering where Phil started off from, I wouldn’t expect his change to be plus right away; it would be great if the the possibility was there, though

    Yea, to be scouted as a real plus pitch it should be good more often than not. Right now its in that “solid change, flashes plus” area that alot of developing guys are tagged with.

    I like it alot already and I’m glad scouts and other baseball types are liking it too.

  360. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Yes

    Affleck is a Chelsea fan as well. It drives the Red Sox/Chelsea comparison even further.

  361. Pat M. March 31st, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    The only thing that I see that Hughes needs to work on is finishing his curve ball….Once he establishes that pitch he’s going to have a very fine season…..13-7, era in the 3.50-3.75 neighborhood

  362. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Based on ST, Rich?

  363. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    “Do some homework.”

    I have. Garko was better v. LHP than Thames last season, and better overall.

    Your turn.

  364. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    No, Betsy, ST had nothing to do with it.

  365. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Hard to say Thamez is a “glaring weakness”.

    He’s the 25th man on the roster and he has a history of hitting lefties, despite infrequent PT, effectively.

    He has swung the bat better the last week.

    Doesn’t hurt the Yankees to see if he has anything left at the start of the season.

  366. Glory Glory Man United March 31st, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    CR9,

    My team, Algeria, is in the same group as the U.S. that will be fun…I am rooting for any African team to win this year although the chances are really small but one can always hope

  367. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    CR9 – this is a YANKEES BLOG, i’m just respectfully saying and i’m sure everyone here agrees with me, this is for yankee talk, not soccer

    Rich in NJ – i’m just saying the yankees will put together a good bench, but a few ST at bats isnt a good enough judge of a player – CC’s ST era is about 8, would you drop him based on that? Thames can hit, let’s give it a chance, there isnt much out there

  368. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    what a goal!!!zlatan!

  369. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    What a goal by Barca. Zlatan has gotten them the all important away goal.

  370. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Rich, futile attempts at clever comebacks are going to disguise the fact you identified the Yankees 25th man (which in the Yankee-verse is about as relevant as two teams who play for the 64th seed in the NCAA tourney) as a “glaring weakness”.

    So yes, really, lol…

  371. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    “Hard to say Thamez is a “glaring weakness”.

    He’s the 25th man on the roster and he has a history of hitting lefties, despite infrequent PT, effectively.”

    The weakness of this team is Gardner/Winn/Thames. Gardner and Winn aren’t going anywhere yet. That leaves Thames. If you can get a better hitter who still has mL options, it seems like a smart play.

  372. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Thames has pinch hit in 20% of his games (500 games played, 100 pinch hits) and has done quite well, but in the last 4 seasons he has averaged less than 20 pinch hits per season. So while he has done quite well when coming off the bench, he has done it while also playing quite a bit as a starter.

    He won’t start for the yankees, or not as much as he would for any other team looking at him, so we don’t know how good he will be.

    He is also incredibly streaky.

  373. tk March 31st, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    “The only thing that I see that Hughes needs to work on is finishing his curve ball”

    Would you care to elaborate on that Pat? I assume you mean he isn’t following through like he does with his other pitches. I’d be interested to hear what you’re picking up on and how you think it is affecting the pitch (staying up in the zone?). Thanks.

  374. austinmac March 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    I still believe the Yankees need an improvement in LF. Gardner has done nothing to suggest he can hit enough to play. Defensive speed is not enough.

    Everyone seems to be in agreement this is going to be a three way race. I am not of the school that a team can shrug off a subpar starter by saying “we don’t need an all-star at every position”. The next time the game is on the line and Gardner comes up and we all look at the the bench and see Thames or Winn there I think my feelings will be shared.

  375. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    robby

    People on here talk about TV shows, College Basketball, Football, Movies, Hot Looking guys. This forum is for everyone and anyone to discuss anything within the parameters of the Terms of Service.

  376. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) March 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Jerkface, thanks! I’ll take that “solid, flashes plus” any day of the wee ,especially if he’s got his FB, curve and cutter. That’s a nice array of pitches…

    Pat M, man – if Phil ended up with those #s as a 23 year old #5 starter, I’d be over the moon and so would the Yankees.

  377. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    stuckey

    What was futile was your reply. I highlighted that fact by imitating it.

    Sorry, but when you have a $200m payroll, the weakness necessarily stands out as a result of the surrounding talent.

  378. New York Experience March 31st, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Sorry to but in but I noticed some of you talking about soccer in the UK.

    Arsenal losing 1-0 after 20 seconds of the second half, Cesc Fabergas is out of the return leg due to suspension after getting a yellow card tonight.

  379. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Rich,

    Garko hasn’t shown he can hit coming off the bench.

    Last year doesn’t change that since he was released again.

    Thames has swung the bat much better the last week.

    There is no such thing as a glaring weakness on the 25th roster spot.

    If the guy doesn’t hit, they will find somebody else. It’s not an important spot on an AL roster.

  380. Banks March 31st, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Affleck/Matt Damon/Will Farrell/Stephen King are Chelsea Fans

    Roy Williams/Billy Crystal/Jay-Z/Donald Trump are Manchester United fans

    Seinfeld is a Man City fan.

  381. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    robby s

    As I said to Betsy, ST has nothing to do with it.

  382. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Glory

    What are your thoughts on Michael Carrick?

    I think he is terrible overrated by Fergie!

  383. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Thames isn’t a true pinch hitter like Matt Stairs, or his ilk, so it remains to be seen what he can give to the yankees.

  384. Y's Guy March 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    i took a week away from this forum and i come back and what a suprise, rich in nj is arguing with everybody….

  385. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Arsenal is in real trouble.

  386. pat March 31st, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Girardi: Hughes first start April 15. Until then, Will stay on active roster, but pitch extended spring games April 5 and 10. #nyy

  387. Roger March 31st, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Best Man u player…van der Sar!

  388. robby s March 31st, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Jerkface – there is no such thing as a pure pinch hitter

  389. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    What a SAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Arsenal could have gotten right back in it.

  390. Wave Your Hat March 31st, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Before criticizing the Yanks on Thames and Winn, you have to consider left field candidates weren’t too plentiful this off season. Garko is just a guy like a lot of other guys, even if Cashman had saved the money on Gaudin and Park and used the savings on an outfielder there weren’t a lot of choices out there better than the ones we got.

  391. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Jerkface – there is no such thing as a pure pinch hitter

    Matt Stairs pinch hit in 85% of his games played last season

  392. rodg12 March 31st, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Hughes starting on the 15th makes sense. Inserts him right into the #5 spot after the first time through the rotation.

  393. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release March 31st, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    @Joelsherman1 Hughes to throw sim games on Apr 5 and 10. Start Apr 15 vs. Angels

    @Joelsherman1 Sorry on Hughes it is extended spring not simulated games

  394. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 31st, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Thanks for the info on Joba, guys. 3 up and 3 down is good, no matter the velocity. :)

  395. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Wave Your Hat

    It’s not really a criticism as much as a suggestion, and it’s prospective because Garko was just put on waivers.

  396. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    “What was futile was your reply. I highlighted that fact by imitating it.”

    Ah, self-satisfied meta explanations of our comebacks. Raising the bar, are we?

    “Sorry, but when you have a $200m payroll, the weakness necessarily stands out as a result of the surrounding talent.”

    At least you’re willing to apologize.

    Yankees don’t have a “glaring” weakness. And you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth right now. You just implied to someone else (quite defiantly) that your comment was not based on ST.

    So you tell me, does their career performance show a disparity you’d describe as “glaring”?

  397. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release March 31st, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Whoops, didn’t see it already posted

  398. Pat M. March 31st, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    Thames will be fine as the right hand option off the bench and part time DH……Randy Winn is getting no love here, but come June everyone will be whistling a different tune, as usual……SJ, how is Tony’s camp going ????

  399. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    What a Shot!! Zlatan again!!!

    Barca are moving on to the Semis

  400. Billy March 31st, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    He might not be a “true” pinch hitter but I watched Thames come through with some huge, productive pinch hits for the Tigers.

  401. Y 27 March 31st, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    LOL!!!

    Kay just announced who will be covering the Yankees for ESPN New York:

    Wally Matthews

  402. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    He might not be a “true” pinch hitter but I watched Thames come through with some huge, productive pinch hits for the Tigers.

    No kidding, he has a .300+ avg with power in his career as a pinch hitter, but he did it while maintaining steady playing time as a starter. Which he won’t get on the yankees. No idea how he does completely cold.

  403. Doreen - 2010 GTLU March 31st, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Just for the record, while I’m not a fan, I have no issue with other people discussing their favorite soccer teams. I am only saying this because someone said they think they spoke for everyone in saying that this is a Yankees only blog.
    And I go off topic a whole lot!

  404. Jim March 31st, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Kay must have photos of someone because he ain’t goood ( a nice guy though)

  405. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Pay M,

    Scuffling a bit with the bat but playing great defensively.

    He’s a bit bored and is ready for Opening Night on the 8th.

    He’s healthy though and he has held up well physically all spring.

  406. spikes up March 31st, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    dont these soccer fans have some rioting to do somewhere (else)?

  407. Rich in NJ March 31st, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    “Ah, self-satisfied meta explanations of our comebacks. Raising the bar, are we?”

    Nah, just having fun.

    “At least you’re willing to apologize.”

    That’s just how I roll.

    “Yankees don’t have a “glaring” weakness. And you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth right now. You just implied to someone else (quite defiantly) that your comment was not based on ST.”

    Life is often about relative measures. You’re way too intelligent to be so concrete.

    “So you tell me, does their career performance show a disparity you’d describe as “glaring”?”

    Given Thames’s age, I focused on more recent stats:

    wOBA

    2009

    Thames: Overall: .312/ v. L: .345
    Garko: Overall: .338 / v. L: .381

  408. CR9 March 31st, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    Maybe not!!

    Arsenal are back down 2-1!!!!!!!!!!

    There’s hope!

  409. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    btw – with Swisher in front of him and Jeter behind him, I find it hard to imagine a manager burning a lefty pitcher late in a game to throw to Gardner, while NOT having another righty right behind him ready for Jeter.

    Just how often does one imagine Thamas or Garko or however actually facing a lefty late in the game?

    “Never” is probably the most accurate guess.

  410. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    Don’t you also consider that when a younger player has bounced around as much as Garko, it’s a sign that he isn’t well suited for a bench role.

    That makes a raw review of his stat line less relevent.

    Wally Matthews? You would think they could have found someone more down the middle re: the Yankees.

    Wally hates the Yankees. Odd choice for that gig.

  411. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    “Life is often about relative measures. You’re way too intelligent to be so concrete.”

    Tell that to Randy.

    “Thames: Overall: .312/ v. L: .345
    Garko: Overall: .338 / v. L: .381″

    Doesn’t strike me as a significant difference, considering that unless he starts as DH (which doesn’t address the Yankees so-called “weakness” much less a glaring one), neither one is likely ever going to face a lefty late in the game.

  412. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 4:18 pm

    Don’t you also consider that when a younger player has bounced around as much as Garko, it’s a sign that he isn’t well suited for a bench role.

    He played for cleveland adequately and was then traded at the deadline/waiver line and not re-signed in the offseason. Lets not act like Garko was milton bradley’d around the league to a million different teams.

    Career .790 OPS, who had a great first half with cleveland and didn’t play well for the giants.

  413. SJ44 March 31st, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    One role was as a starter and one was off the bench.

    He didn’t show he could play off the bench, which was my point.

    I’d rather go with the guy who has a history of being able to play effectively off the bench as opposed to a guy who doesn’t.

  414. Jerkface March 31st, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    One role was as a starter and one was off the bench.

    He didn’t show he could play off the bench, which was my point.

    I’d rather go with the guy who has a history of being able to play effectively off the bench as opposed to a guy who doesn’t.

    He started 75% of the games he played in SF.

  415. stuckey [knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door] March 31st, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    So what did Chamberlain top out at?

    Anyone?

  416. Don March 31st, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Wally Matthews hates everyone, so he will be fair to the Yanks.

  417. S.A.--Relax, Relate, Release June 22nd, 2010 at 10:19 am

    testing:

    :roll:


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