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Joba goes star-gazing

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It’s pretty rare to see professional athletes get excited to meet someone, but Joba Chamberlain was positively giddy when he noticed John Smoltz (now with MLB Network) in the Yankees clubhouse earlier today. Chamberlain (like many of us) grew up seeing a lot of the Braves on cable and tried to act natural as Smoltz talked to several other players. “I tried not to be star-struck,” Chamberlain said. “I don’t get starstruck very much.”

Finally, Chamberlain went up and talked to Smoltz, and the two ended up having a long conversation about how a pitcher can adapt to different roles. Smoltz was an All-Star as both a starter and reliever, and as Chamberlain said, “If I don’t take (something) from what that guy told me, I probably won’t listen to anybody.”

Among the pieces of advice Smoltz offered was that Chamberlain should try to treat relieving as though it was a “one-inning game.” Certainly it inspired Chamberlain tonight, as he looked absolutely devastating in striking out Adrian Beltre and J.D. Drew. The fastball to get Beltre hit 96 mph, and he used a nasty slider to get the last two strikes on Drew.

“It’s just getting back in the routine, getting comfortable with what I do down there,” he said. “When it’s all clicking, it feels right.”

Joe Girardi wouldn’t commit to sticking with Chamberlain in the eighth – he actually said he had considered leaving Dave Robertson in for the whole inning if things had gone differently – but it seems obvious that’s the direction the Yankees would like to ultimately go. “I’ll say this,” Girardi said. “We liked what we saw.”

Here’s Chamberlain talking earlier in the postgame session with the media (the Smoltz stuff came later, after the recording ended).

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Courtesy of Chad, here are some other post-game clubhouse notes:

• As he did all spring, A.J. Burnett went out of his way to give credit to catcher Jorge Posada. He said Posada’s ability to block his curveball early in the game gave him the confidence to keep throwing it late. “My first couple of hooks aren’t exactly 60 footers,” Burnett said. “They’re more like 56 and a half.”

• Interesting story from Posada: “When (Mike Cameron) got hit by a curveball, I went out there and told him, get on top of the curveball a little bit more and he did it right away,” Posada said. “And his curveball then was biting the way it should, and it kind of helped him with everything else. The location of his pitches were a lot better after that.”

• Interesting quote from Nick Swisher: “I’m really just taking this, for the first time in my career, like a job. Show up, I do the work, make sure I’m doing everything the right way and it’s really working out. Maybe I’m just a little more focused.”

• Joe Girardi said he didn’t want to use Chan Ho Park because Park felt a little sick yesterday.

• Girardi said it was possible that Dave Robertson would have stayed in for all of the eighth inning had he not allowed that lead-off single, but Girardi didn’t give a firm comment on his plans for the eighth. My own opinion: Chamberlain looked pretty good.

• Nick Johnson has yet to get a hit for the Yankees, but he’s been on base five of the 10 times he’s gone to the plate. He’s walked four times and been hit by a pitch. “That’s why we went and got this guy,” Girardi said.

• The Yankees seemed universally pleased with the way Burnett pitched. Burnett said he would only take away the two mistakes to Victor Martinez. “I thought the only pitches that got away from me were the two to the same hitter,” he said. “The results weren’t what I wanted, but I felt like myself tonight.”

• Girardi on what he’s seen out of Robinson Cano’s two games as the No. 5 hitter: “His approach has been outstanding.”

Great job from everyone tonight. Make sure to check back throughout the day tomorrow as we’ll be all over the last game of the series.

 
 

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197 Responses to “Joba goes star-gazing”

  1. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 7th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    “Girardi said it was possible that Dave Robertson would have stayed in for all of the eighth inning had he not allowed that lead-off single, ”

    I think I mentioned that in the previous post. People are clamoring for Robertson and getting upset when he is pulled or isn’t in there, but in his first two games he has given up hits, and he allowed a run to score yesterday. When you have a one-run lead, you

  2. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:30 am

    That’s good advice from Smoltz..

    Despite Andrew Marchand’s attempts to make this into a divorce worthy of the McCourts, AJ and Jorge clearly are fine. I never believed for one moment they had personal issues last year; they never really got the chance to work together in ST because Jorge was recovering from surgery. I think Joe did them both a disservice, but now they are fine. AJ is going to have bad starts, like any pitcher, and I would hope that the media would understand that they are just that: bad starts. AJ and Jorge are similar personalities, both passionate and emotional. I think they are going to work together very well. Burnett was eh tonight, but the important thing is that he was happy.

    Chad, that is an interesting quote from Nick; so far, so good…….

    I may have been wrong about Cano and the #5 spot. It’s early, but he looks like he’s got something to prove.

  3. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 7th, 2010 at 12:32 am

    When you have a one-run lead late in the game, against a team that annihilated you with offense the night before, you are extremely careful with your pitching choices.

    I see this stuff as pragmatic. I don’t get overly attached to any player to the extent that I want that player over any other. You really need to go with your best option at any point in time.

  4. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:33 am

    M, I don’t believe that saying (about there being a problem when people say there is none). The Yankees wouldn’t have had to deny there was a problem if the mediots didn’t ask them about it. Marchand is snarky and completely incompetent at what he does.

  5. m April 7th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Jorge said that Joba’s attitude was the difference. If Joba can embrace the role he’s presently in, it’ll make him tough to beat. People were up in arms about Joba switching around, but others, most prominently John Smoltz, have done it successfully.

    Betsy,

    Oh, boy. He just put up another post. Here’s the last line:

    “We’ll again find out the truth — at least, what Girardi thinks — by the manager’s actions. We may have to wait a little while. But we’ll find it out.”

  6. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Smoltz was an All-Star as both a starter and reliever, and as Chamberlain said, “If I don’t take (something) from what that guy told me, I probably won’t listen to anybody”.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Sadly, he’s had 3-4 great pitchers to get advice from and to listen and it helps for about one day. That last statement has more truth in it than he realizes. He won’t take the advice that he’s given.

  7. kd April 7th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    cano really seems like a different player this year

  8. m April 7th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    Betsy,

    There was a problem. But even if there’s no problem now, the media asking about it ad nauseum is the problem.

    Looks like AJ’s going to pull a Jeter on all Jorge questions. :P

  9. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 12:39 am

    They don’t call him OBP Jesus for nothing.

  10. Giuseppe Franco April 7th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    I wonder how long it’s going to take Francesa to rant and rave about how Joba should tone the fist pumping down and be more like Mo.

    Of course, this is the same guy who was ranting and raving when Joba was toning his fist pumping down and proclaimed he wasn’t the same Joba anymore and criticized Girardi and Cashman for keeping him in a cage.

    Sigh. The media is obviously a very useful tool for a lot of information. But they sure do produce a lot of horse dung, too.

    I guess it’s our job as readers/viewers to put our boots on and sort through the useful stuff and separate it from the rubbish.

    Okay, sorry, end of rant.

  11. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:41 am

    M, Ken Davidoff just wrote an asinine article about how the Yankees shouldn’t bother forcing AJ and Jorge together. I was going to post it, then decided that I was too disgusted………..actually, I was disgusted with myself for reading it.

    Marchand is slimy beyond words; he may be worse than Wally Matthews.

    Phil embraced the role last year and was awesome; I agree that it’s important that Joba do the same. GB, that’s why I’m not putting a ton of stock in tonight’s performance. It was just one outing – a very good one – but just one. Let’s see him do well over a long period of time.

  12. m April 7th, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Anyway, enough of those two.

    So I come and find out that Thames is going to face all the lefty starters? Or practically? Seems to be they’ll try to work off days around the lefties. It’s fine in principle, but I wouldn’t draw any lines in the sand just yet.

  13. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    Good for Joba!!

    I always knew Schmoltzie was a class act. Maybe that’s why he stunk it up with the Sox last year. He couldnt handle being around a bunch of scumbags all the time!!!!

  14. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:43 am

    M, the only problem was just that they weren’t on the same page. I do not believe, and never have, that they had any personal problems. I must say I love that AJ is putting the clamps on this – I hope Jorge does the same.

  15. Jerkface April 7th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Kanekoa Texeira just made his debut for the mariners and pitched the 9th in a 1 – 1 game and ended up pitching out of bases loaded 1 out.

    Edwar Ramirez just retired the side the next inning

  16. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    They’re giving Thames a chance to fail. I wouldn’t, but it doesn’t matter what I think.

  17. Gary April 7th, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Smoltz is a first ballot HOFer who can actually relate to Joba, converting from the rotation to the pen.

    What do Andy, AJ, or CC know about that?

    Not to mention, those guys are his friends. Sometimes, you need someone higher than that to give you advice that really resonates. What better than his idol?

  18. CB April 7th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    ““When (Mike Cameron) got hit by a curveball, I went out there and told him, get on top of the curveball a little bit more and he did it right away,” Posada said. “And his curveball then was biting the way it should, and it kind of helped him with everything else. The location of his pitches were a lot better after that.””

    Too often last year, AJ couldn’t contain damage. The game would slip away from him when it started to go bad.

    That didn’t happen tonight. And that’s why AJ’s start was a very good one.

    The key turning point of the game was the bottom of the 5th. Pedroia singles. Martinez doubles him home.

    Right there the game could have slipped away from AJ. His fastball command had really left him.

    Both Pedroia and Martinez hit fastball’s that missed their spots.

    But AJ regrouped – and he really did regroup – to strike out Youkilis and Ortiz.

    That 3-2 curve ball he threw Youkilis was the pitch of the night.

    The entire key to AJ keeping the game intact after Pedroia scored was the way he shifted from using his fastball – whose command he was losing – to his curve ball.

    And he really didn’t have a good curve ball until the 5th inning – which was after Cameron got hit and Posada talked to AJ about staying on top of his curve.

    AJ got Scutaro to hit into that double play on a two seamer.

    Then all three outs he got in the 5th were off of curve balls.

    In otherwords, AJ actually pitched a little to close out the game. He went to a plan B when the four seam fastball slipped away from him.

    If AJ is able to fix that curveball that 5th inning might have gotten very ugly.

    I’d like to see him use his change up but it’s understandable why he wouldn’t want to do that on the road against Boston with that short LF porch.

  19. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    GF, that’s true, lol. I love how people say that Joba has the perfect temperment for the pen, but then they also say that Phil had the same. Um, IMO, there is no one temperment fits all. Mo and Phil’s cool work for them, Joba’s works for him (though I do think his fist pumping goes overboard at times). It’s all BS.

  20. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    As I see it, these writers have no real stories to write so they invent them. The Mets are non-existant, so there’s point in writing about the down-trodden.

  21. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Great job by Ace in this game.

    And by Burnett to keep us in it.

  22. m April 7th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    Betsy,

    It’s obvious that they get along off the field. That’s not the issue. It’s the on the field stuff. But they both must be sick of having to lick each other’s boots for the press’ sake.

    AJ said something very telling, and I think was part of the “trust” issue last season. He said that tonight Jorge blocked some of his hooks early, and that gave him the confidence to stay with it.

  23. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    Ace’s health may be the key to the pen. If a starter can’t go six, he pitches. Robertson or Joba pitch the 7th and 8th, depending on rest, effectiveness, etc. Marte gets out tough LH hitters, Mo is Mo, and Marte and Park work when they can.

  24. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:48 am

    CB, terrific analysis; I never thought about it like that. Perhaps I’m being too harsh on him with regards to the change…His next start will be at home, so hopefully he’ll break it out them. He spent so much time on the change during ST that his curve suffered; I’m not surprised that it took him this long to find it.

    Did you see the Newsday article about Phil’s change, CB? He now thinks it’s as good as his curve (though he’s not going to call it plus because he hasn’t yet thrown it in a regular season game). To me, it’s amazing that he could have developed this change over such a short span of time.

  25. CB April 7th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    “Sadly, he’s had 3-4 great pitchers to get advice from and to listen and it helps for about one day. That last statement has more truth in it than he realizes. He won’t take the advice that he’s given.”

    Yeah – that last part of his quote was interesting.

    Really not sure why he has to take talking to Smoltz as some seminal event – he’s surrounded by greatness on an everyday basis.

    Either way – whatever helps.

    I don’t think he shook any pitches off – at least it was nowhere as bad as his outing on sunday.

  26. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    Posada was able to block the pitches because they didn’t miss be 7 or 8 feet,

  27. Giuseppe Franco April 7th, 2010 at 12:49 am

    # JeterJOBACanoFan April 7th, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Guiseppe Franco – good to see you back and in great form. As we have a mutual respect for a certain pitcher, I suddenly realized that you hadn’t posted in ages and inquired about you. I haven’t been following too much during ST as I had some health issues also but not as badly as you. Best wishes to a full recovery and to enjoy a great Yankee season.

    ————

    Thank you for the concern and kind words. I’m walking a little more gingerly right now than I was last year but my mind and passion is still the same.

    The physical stuff is only temporary. I’ll be back to my old self before long.

    Thanks again.

  28. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    M, they had a great working relationship in June and July; I think AJ and Jorge just had a bad stretch together which got blown out of proportion. I’m sure both of them are TIRED of talking about it and why not? Yet, the mediots won’t believe them anyway. They’ll ask the guys and then make up their own minds that they’re lying. Nice, lol.

  29. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Rich

    Good point. Ace can be huge to the success of our bullpen. I also think that Park can be very valuable. Just because he had one bad game in that bandbox, does not mean anything.

    I cant believe 48% voted for Fenway Field to the 52 percent for Wrigley.

    When you can visit a mansion or a beach, like NYS or Wrigley, why would you want to see a game in a garbage pale like Fenway Field?

  30. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 12:51 am

    I think the AJ/Po thing is vastly overblown.

  31. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    CB, Like you, I don’t care where he gets the help from, as long as he takes the advice instead of forgetting it the next day. Not sure that he has the greatest attention span. I don’t know him, but, it seems that might explain his making the same mistakes over and over.

  32. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 7th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    OMG I’m getting chills watching this stuff. They just showed the 15 inning game at the Stadium where AJ pitched against Beckett and it was scoreless into the 15th and Alex got a walkoff homer. It was our second win against Boston. And now the Yankees have turned the tables.

    What a show. They also showed the game where Melky hit for the cycle…

    Showing Robby’s offense and defense.

    What a season!

  33. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    GB, the Yanks just came off a WS and the media is out for blood. I can not believe how little faith the media has in this team; the negativity based on one dumb loss is ridiculous. The Sox won one game and they are apparently destined for greatness; the Yankees lost once and they are mortally wounded champs. Overreaction much?

  34. Yanks 1961 April 7th, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Is Smoltz gonna teach him how to throw 100 MPH again???

  35. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    LOL

    We can thank Junichi Tazawa, Pete Gammons lil buddy, for our World Series!!!

  36. CB April 7th, 2010 at 12:54 am

    “Did you see the Newsday article about Phil’s change, CB? ”

    I agree with his evaluation and thought the same during the spring. To be honest, his change up was frequently better than his curve ball.

    And that’s not saying his curve ball was bad – but he was able to throw some devastating change ups.

    Whether he can do that consistently is the question.

    I did feel that by the end of the spring his change up was a significantly better than his cutter. His cutter is his fourth pitch which is really quite a turn of events. No way one could forsee that at the start of spring.

  37. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 7th, 2010 at 12:55 am

    “Edwar Ramirez just retired the side the next inning”

    :)

  38. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    Betsy

    It is not about faith, why the media writes negatively slanted articles or questions them, or tries to drum up controversies.

    The media dislikes the Yankees. That’s it. Sometimes, the simplest answer is the right one.

    Again, that excludes Chad and Sam, as they actually do a professional job….Dont worry, though, they’ll be fired for the first experienced Yankee hater to come along ;)

  39. Jerkface April 7th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    Texeira gives up the walk off, but he looked like he has some real major league tools.

  40. Tony April 7th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    I like Fenway Field… it’s like a living museum. Green Monster, Yawkey Way, the 38K seating capacity, the old scoreboard/standings on the wall, etc.

    Just a historical, magnificent park. I actually commend them for not building a 60K park in Foxboro or something called “Bank of America Park” with high-tech scoreboards and such. Every other team has gone that route for extra $$, yet Henry remains committed to its historical value.

  41. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:53 am
    GB, the Yanks just came off a WS and the media is out for blood. I can not believe how little faith the media has in this team; the negativity based on one dumb loss is ridiculous. The Sox won one game and they are apparently destined for greatness; the Yankees lost once and they are mortally wounded champs. Overreaction much?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    The writers aren’t worried about showing faith…they’re only worried about somebody reading their tripe. There’s another writer that’s not much better. In fact, he’s more of PA’s pet parrot. I saw that last year and this winter in some of his writings

  42. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    CB, I wonder though if he should have worked more on his curve; his curve should be his 2nd pitch. Still, he did say that once he gets in a groove with it, he stays in a groove with it. His cutter is a pretty good pitch, so that’s not bad to have as a 4th pitch. I wouldn’t be shocked if he improved – he seems to pick things up quickly.

  43. CB April 7th, 2010 at 12:59 am

    The constant commenting on every article written by the press about the yankees is really getting tedious.

    Overwhelmingly tedious.

    It’s getting difficult to even skip those posts because they have become so frequent some people keep posting about how much they hate writer X or Y (yet continue to read X and Y).

    I personally don’t read many if not most of those articles so it’s unfortunate to come across them even indirectly on this forum.

  44. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    Ok, Tony the Red Sox fan.

    They made every addition possible to make more money out of that dump of a park. Watching a game on TV at Fenway Field is gloomy, in person, it’s gloomy.

    It’s a sh**box. That’s why Peter Gammons finds it so homely.

    Historical? Sure. Magnificent? Hardly.

  45. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    CR, I don’t always sound like I have faith in them, but I’m a fan. I expect the media to be objective; they made it sound like the apocalypse was upon us because the Yankees lost one freaking game. It’s like they got joy out of writing ho w bad they were last night, lol. GB, it’s getting to the point that I may not read anyone. Mark Carig is consistently good, but even Davidoff is getting ridiculous now.

  46. CB April 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    “Texeira gives up the walk off, but he looked like he has some real major league tools.”

    He’s going to be a useful major league reliever. What can you do. This was inevitable given their 40 man roster issues and the disproportionate number of pitchers on the 40 man.

    They were going to eventually lose a useful piece in the rule V. I thought it would happen last year but luckily the Padres sent Nova back.

  47. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Sorry, CB – I suppose it’s best to ignore the writers, which I have. However, they come up in conversation like the one we were having about AJ/Jorge and it’s unavoidable.

  48. Jeremy April 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I went on Pete Abe’s blog just to check out his blog since I haven’t been there in a while but I found one crazy post from one crazy Red Sox fan :

    “Hey BostonRedWold, I was NOT watching on MBL.com, I was watching on MLBHD, the TV station! When they showed one of the replays where you could see second, one of the announcers, can’t remember which, said “He had to flip to second”. BUT nevertheless it was an EASY throw to first…
    Can’t make plays like that in a tie game with Yankess….shouldn’t do it anytime, but CAN’T do it to loose a game against the Yankees….and if you don’t realize that you haven’t been a part of the sox yanks rivarly, or should I call it HATE. I hate every player that has ever worn a Yankees uniform (at least while they wore that uniform), I hate every person that is a Yankees fan, and anybody that will defend the yankees….the Red Sox yankee rivalry IS more important the life. If I saw a Yankees fan standing in front of a truck coming at them, I would not yell at them to get out of the way, but tell the truck driver to put the hammer down!”

    Talk about crazy !

  49. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    I mean to say that I am trying to ignore them.

  50. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 April 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Joba pitched 2 scoreless innings, give him a break. Smoltz might have reached him.

    Nick Johnson on base 5-10 x’s without a hit is good.

  51. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:03 am

    Well, we got Swisher anyway, so if we had to lose Teiexera (sp?), so be it. Hopefully some of our other kids down on the farm will progress this year.

  52. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Betsy

    “It’s like they got joy out of writing ho w bad they were last night,”

    They did!

    I’m sure there are exceptions, like Chad and Sam, but I dont go anywhere else to read articles usually, and I dont watch ESPN anymore either, unless I have to.

    “I expect the media to be objective”

    I used to expect the same thing, but it’s unrealistic. It’s never going to happen.

    What has to be realized, is that these sportswriters grew up fans of the game. Generally, if you grew up a fan of the game, you grow up as a Yankees fan, or a hater of the Yankees.

    They cant put aside their personal feelings, and are unprofessional as a result.

  53. CB April 7th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    “However, they come up in conversation like the one we were having about AJ/Jorge and it’s unavoidable.”

    Betsy,

    I like your posts and we’ve had dozens of conversation – but you bring up this issue as much if not more than anyone.

    I personally could care less about Andrew Marchand for example.

    And I can’t believe how many posts there have been discussing Andrew Marchand.

  54. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    I just hate to be a pawn in their game of “let’s get the Yankee fans riled up”, CR. I failed again tonight when I read Davidoff’s piece, but I’m not going to let that happen again.

  55. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Betsy, I don’t even bother reading these reports. It’s not worth the effort to sort through the crap. Even some of the trolls are less obvious. Even on here, I don’t read the top fill-in notes except on certain days. You’ll see it once Rodriguez gets cranked up. Might as well read PA’s crap.

  56. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 1:07 am

    Fenway is a nice place to visit, but not a place to call home…….The BoSox faithful for the most part don’t know any better, as Fenway is all they know…….It’s the most uncomfortable 9 innings you’ll ever experience, and that’s the good field seats………

  57. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    CB, I agree that I do…not saying that I don’t. I will try to post positive articles about players that can engage us in discussion instead…. I myself am rather tired of Marchand; I’d rather not give him any more play, lol. I respect the opinions of posters here more than the media anyway……….Ok, I promise to do my best to avoid complaining about writers, lol.

  58. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    Betsy

    You really shouldn’t. There’s is RARELY any valuable information that ever comes from any of them.

    Their goal is probably to put as many Yankees fans in the grave faster, so there can be more Red Sox fans in existence ;)

  59. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:09 am

    Pat M.

    When I go on vacation, I generally dont like to visit landfills. :)

  60. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    GB, I agree. If I want a recap of the game, I can get it right here. Sam and Chad do a fantastic job….I’m working (though not really succeeding) on being more positive.

  61. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:10 am

    CB, I don’t see Nova as more than a spot starter and as Aceves’ eventual replacement. If he can do that job, I’d look to see Aceves get moved as part of a big trade probably to an NL West team.

  62. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:11 am

    LOL CR….

    All I know is that I get upset reading these articles and I’m tired of these clowns having that much power over me. I’ll stick to here for the most part and that’s it.

  63. Paranoid April 7th, 2010 at 1:12 am

    ESPN Boston has Teddy Bruschi and Curt Schilling writing for them and the immortal Gordon Edes

    The same Teddy Bruschi who admitted rooting for the Jets this year in the AFCCG because he felt responsibility to make sure Peyton didn’t win another ring to threat Brady’s legacy.

    And who do we have — Wally Matthews and Marchand

  64. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    “When I go on vacation, I generally dont like to visit landfills.”

    Never been to New Jersey, huh?

  65. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:14 am

    Next time you post a story from a NY writer, Betsy, a nun is coming by your house and crack you across the knuckles with a ruler.

  66. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:16 am

    GB, we won’t let the nun in the house as I’m Jewish, lol. Besides, I love a good fight and I’ll be that nun doesn’t have half the experience that I do – I was a mean little girl.

  67. CB April 7th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    “I don’t see Nova as more than a spot starter and as Aceves’ eventual replacement. ”

    No I agree – that’s why I said “useful” rather than good. I wouldn’t count on Nova being more than a middle relief guy. If he is that’s great but not something you count on.

    Finding a decent replacement for Aceves is a useful piece to have, though. Not guys you want to lose for nothing in the rule 5.

  68. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Actually, right now, the nuns are fighting the good fight, but I digress.

  69. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 1:21 am

    Betsy, trust me you don’t want to mess with a Nun….Well at least the Nuns when I was a kid going to Catholic School….Tough Cookies they were

  70. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Aceves has a lot of trade vaue to a team like the Dodgers, Houston, Arizona or San Diego either in his present role or as a starter, mostly because he’s effective, but, also because of those cities’ demographics. Of course Nova needs to be able to show that he can be that replacement.

  71. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    I’m watching Parenthood ( real good show ), and Minka Kelly is a gorgeous looking lady…..The girl next door look, pretty and classy

  72. CAMERON April 7th, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Betsy nuns are evil didn’t you know? They just hide behind the cloth, them witches are mean!!

  73. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    On a team like the Yankees, McAllister could fill the Aceves role.

  74. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:29 am

    Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 1:16 am
    GB, we won’t let the nun in the house as I’m Jewish, lol. Besides, I love a good fight and I’ll be that nun doesn’t have half the experience that I do – I was a mean little girl.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    They’re nuns, Betsy….they aren’t prejudiced. Your knuckles are as good as anybody else’s. besides that, they’re out of work.

  75. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Pat M

    Parenthood is a great show! I’ve got in on DVR. Cant wait to see Minka Jeter, er, Kelly.

    Rich

    LOL

  76. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:32 am

    On a team like the Yankees, McAllister can be a 5th starter after a one year apprenticeship in the bullpen.

  77. Phil the Thrill April 7th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Watch out for the New York Nicks! They will grind your pitchers into dust.

  78. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Of course, McAllister can be a starter, but on a team like the Yankees, young starters have to produce right away. If he does that, he’s golden, but if his learning curve is even somewhat steep, he may not get much of a chance unless someone gets hurt and they have no choice but to be patient.

  79. CR9 April 7th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....rists.html

    LOL!

  80. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 1:43 am

    CR9, I’m watching it right now….. What time zone are you in ???? GB, I still remember the black rubber tip on those pointers that would just come out of nowhere and whack your hands…….It only took you time and whatever you did wrong, you certainly were apt not to repeat that offense……Or the old pull you by the ear lobe for talking while on line, or improper playground behavior, but it only took one time and you learned

  81. Kevin April 7th, 2010 at 1:49 am

    I’m pretty sure we didn’t get Nick Johnson to go 0-10. That was a nice walk there with bases loaded, big patient at bat, but we need Johnson to hit a little as well. Matsui had a pretty good eye as well, and at the same time hits tons more homers. And you would think Johnson will get some really good pitches to hit, batting in front of Tex and A-Rod. He’s gotta take advantage.

  82. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Kevin April 7th, 2010 at 1:49 am
    I’m pretty sure we didn’t get Nick Johnson to go 0-10. That was a nice walk there with bases loaded, big patient at bat, but we need Johnson to hit a little as well. Matsui had a pretty good eye as well, and at the same time hits tons more homers. And you would think Johnson will get some really good pitches to hit, batting in front of Tex and A-Rod. He’s gotta take advantage.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’m pretty sure that the Yanks didn’t keep Jeter around to make an error every other game or sign Sabathia to pitch to a 8+ ERA, either.

    It’s the 2nd game of the year. I’ll bet that Johnson gets at least one hit this year. by the way…he’s 0-5….not 0-10.

  83. GreenBeret7 April 7th, 2010 at 1:58 am

    Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 1:43 am
    CR9, I’m watching it right now….. What time zone are you in ???? GB, I still remember the black rubber tip on those pointers that would just come out of nowhere and whack your hands…….It only took you time and whatever you did wrong, you certainly were apt not to repeat that offense……Or the old pull you by the ear lobe for talking while on line, or improper playground behavior, but it only took one time and you learned

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. Yeah, Catholic schools have a lot of long ear lobes. I never went to a parochial school, but, I have long eared, big knuckled friends.

  84. Giuseppe Franco April 7th, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Matsui didn’t hit much early last season, either.

    And he was trashed on this board as much as anyone on that team. He was finished. His knees were shot and that was it.

    But he turned it around because he’s a professional hitter and stayed healthy.

    As long as Johnson stays off the DL, he’ll produce more than his share of runs this season. No worries.

  85. Jerkface April 7th, 2010 at 2:08 am

    Johnson has made some of the most consistent hard contact of anyone on the team. He hit a shot right to the monster 370 feet out in game 1, and a couple of liners to center and right.

    Not much you can do about it. Girardi even joked in the postgame, said “NJ is a stupid hitter, I think he hit 5 liners right at them, Im gonna have to talk to him about that.”

  86. Phil the Thrill April 7th, 2010 at 2:13 am

    Both Nicks added the HBP factor into their impressive on base routines tonight.

  87. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 2:18 am

    We’re all very proud.

  88. BigYank1 April 7th, 2010 at 2:31 am

    Watching Joba tonight was like going back in a time machine to 2008. He was hitting 95-96mph and his slider was really biting. A distinct improvement over his 1st appearance. If this is the Joba we will see the rest of the season, I really like our chances of repeating! No one, including the Sox and Rays, can match a rejuvenated Joba setting up Mo! Thats a killer combo!

  89. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 2:33 am

    Nardi raves about him.

  90. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 2:38 am

    I cannot believe someone dissed NJ. Jeez.

  91. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 April 7th, 2010 at 2:40 am

    David Ortz is ANGRY http://www.csnne.com

    UNDER HEADLINES: Big Papi blows off steam after loss. he is uses expletives galore a good read!!

  92. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 2:41 am

    He’s like the Ganesh of the On Base Percentage statistic.

  93. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 2:42 am

    You can’t find peace of mind in an empty blender, Papi.

  94. vey April 7th, 2010 at 2:51 am

    Damon

    Did you read the Smoltz Headline story 5 lines down (cssne.com) He says the Sux front three could be better than the Braves, ouch! What Al East team wants to be the rBaves?

  95. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 3:01 am

    Don’t look now, but Ian Kenndy makes his debut for the D-Backs tomorrow……The one that got away

  96. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 3:07 am

    Ian Kennedy is gone??? :shock:

  97. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 3:17 am

    Can’t stress this point enough about tonight’s game, Aceves simply changed the direction of the game and set the tone for the bullpen with his 2 inning stint……He’s a difference maker for the Yanks that most teams just don’t have…….Maybe the Angels Scott Shields is comparable…..Aceves is a very important weaponry option for Joe Giradi……

  98. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 7th, 2010 at 3:21 am

    I think of Gerrit Cole as the one who got away… Young Master Ian helped bring us back a valuable piece of our new title contenders.

    Couldn’t agree more about Aceves… keep that back healthy, please.

    Goodnight.

  99. Pat M. April 7th, 2010 at 3:30 am

    Gerrit is a heart break………By the way, who’s our bullpen tomorrow ????? Giants go for the sweep at Houston…….To make matters worse for Old Towne , besides the Yanks smacking the BoSox, the NY Knickerbockers punched out the Celts tonight at The Garden………Suddenly tonight , Samuel Adams being served in pubs all throughout Beantown taste just a little flat tonight

  100. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 5:24 am

    If Slade Heathcott turns out to be the next great Yankee CF then you can thank Cole for that as it was his draft choice the Yankees received next year to draft Heathcott.

  101. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 7th, 2010 at 7:10 am

    Pat M -

    Saw the last half of Parenthood and only caught Minky Kelly for a brief moment. She is a real cutie. Pretty. Fresh-looking. Great smile. I’m going to see if I can find a way to watch the entire episode online or on-demand.

    Love Aceves, and because of how valuable he is in what he’s able to do, his ability to be effective in a couple of roles, I never thought he’d be the fifth starter. He is just so smooth and very easy to watch.

    I am looking forward to seeing how Ian Kennedy does in his start today. I was wondering when it would be his turn, so thanks for that info. Power pitchers get all the attention, but I like the guys like Mussina who do more with supposedly “less.” Good luck, Ian.

    About Joba and Smoltz. I see it this way: Smoltz was his idol growing up. For him to be able to talk to him about a situation he finds himself in with the pitcher he idolized, who also happened to have similiar experience, well, I think his quote showed exactly what I would expect. Also, he didn’t say he didn’t listen to other people. Anyway, I wouldn’t read too much into it; he said he was starstruck, after all! And he did a really good job last night.

    I think it’s wise for the Girardi not to make any grand statements about Joba’s place in the pen. it will find itself.

    Nice to get the first win at Fenway out of the way.

    :)

  102. upstate kate April 7th, 2010 at 7:31 am

    another Fenway nail biter, but some encouraging things. Aceves was great, so was Joba. Cano and Swish were good, and Granderson hit against a tough lefty. AJ and Posada appeared to be OK working together.

    I don’t remember Michael Kay being so negative. It was as if he was trying to stir up controversy w/ GGBG sitting, and Curtis batting 9th etc. I thought Kenny and Al did a good job being patient and trying to explain things to him, but then he started again w/ Kim Jones. I want my home town announcer to be supportive of the team!

  103. Fran (the original) and OPPC member April 7th, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Strong bullpen performance, especially by Aceves who really turned the game around IMO.

  104. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 7:49 am

    When Aceves is healthy he is great.

    I hope they can manage his back issue.

    If he has a bulging disc it wont be easy as that is a chronic condition.

    I have known numerous people with that type of problem.

    Leads to pain and muscle spasms.

    But I’m just gonna hope for the best.

  105. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 7:51 am

    By the way, IMO Z-Mac is gonna be way too good to waste in the BP.

    Not a problem if he apprentices there for a starting role but he belongs as a starter. :)

  106. Aldo April 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Not sure why everyone is still so harsh on Joba. The guy pitched relatively well last year in the playoffs and was one of two last men standing by Game 6 of the WS that Girardi trusted to bridge the gap to Mariano – how many relievers have done what he has done in 3 years in the league. He’s a major reason the Yankees are getting a ring next week and the only reason everyone is being so hard on him is because he was dominant in his first go around the league which many young pitchers are.

  107. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am

    “I want my home town announcer to be supportive of the team!”

    Why can’t an annoucer be supportive of his team, but still question whether they’re making the decision?

  108. blake April 7th, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Couple things:
    1) after seeing ST and the first couple games I think the Yanks offense has a chance to be really special…even better than last year. The reason I feel this way isn’t as much to do with the new guys as it is related to Cano. If he makes the jump from good player to superstar as he’s hinted at this spring then I think that makes more of an impact than any difference in production between (Matsui/Damon, Granderson/NJ)

    2. I thought it was a really positive start for AJ. Those are the kind of games that have gotten away from him in the past but he hung in there and kept his team in the game.

    3. I really wish Costas would do more games. I know he’s a busy guy but he was born to do baseball games..he just sounds like baseball to me.

  109. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Couple more observations from last night’s game:

    1 Granderson has a really good arm. He has just missed throwing out some very speedy runners on more than one occasion.

    2 Right now (although I hope it changes) Joba’s slider is a better pitch for him than his FB. Nice to see the fire back.

    3 GGBG still needs to bunt more. Especially drag bunt.

    4 Swisher looks like a new man at the plate. Thank you K. Long.

    5 Jeter’s athleticism as a fielder is amazing for a guy his age. He made 2 outstanding plays last night.

    6 Don’t expect to see another game all season where Tex doesn’t make those 2 plays.

    7 The Yankees are a scary good team. Just wait until things gel.

    :)

  110. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:01 am

    The final results were pretty ugly for AJ in terms of boxscore numbers but all that matters for me is he pitched well enough for us to get the W. I am a little surprised to hear him say he only made two mistakes though. He threw sooo many pitches in five innings of work. I thought the issue was not two pitches but AJ not being able to finish guys off and throwing away pitches on many batters.

  111. upstate kate April 7th, 2010 at 8:03 am

    crawdaddy

    I find most of the announcers to be very fair and unbiased. For example, they will show replays on missed calls that favor the other team, they don’t gloss over errors , and they will acknowledge issues. However, last night, IMO, I felt Kay went out of his way to try and stir up controversy. And, I don’t recall him being that way before. Even when Kenny and Al disputed what he was saying, he just kept digging. I don’t expect them to shy away from controversy when appropriate.

  112. SJ44 April 7th, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Mythbusters from last night:

    The Yankees do have a bullpen.

    Joba doesn’t need to go to AAA and IS needed in the bullpen.

    Joba was throwing 95-96 last night. Meaning, his velocity will be back to normal soon. He threw the ball great last night.

    The nonsense of predicting results before games start. “They will never hit Lester”. “AJ has no chance at Fenway”. “Granderson will never get a hit off Lester”.

    Why do the children continue to do that here? It adds nothing to the discussions and they are often more wrong than right.

    One last word on game thread trolls…..

    This is one area of the blog that Pete addressed better than Chad and Sam have so far.

    This place is a true community. We have a lot of visitors and regulars who are daily posters.

    A tool like this guy Dan would have been banned by Pete already.

    He adds nothing to the forum and only looks to pollute the game threads on a nightly basis.

    At some point, enough is enough. Get rid of the guy.

    It will bring more regulars back to the game threads.

  113. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Yankees fifth starter Phil Hughes struck out 12 and allowed three hits over the equivalent of 8 1-3 scoreless innings in a simulated game – this is very impressive work by Phil. He continues to show how he can just dominate the opposition at times but those times have to come more often and against major league hitters. i may have been saying this for two or three years now but i really think hughes is going to put it all together real soon – I can see him being a top of the rotation starter by the all star break. This guy has it – he just has the ability to control baseball games. I can’t wait to see him starting every five days this year or at least once a week on average. It will be nice for hughes to have some stability as it seems that joba is finally able to concentrate on the eighth inning now. I really think this is how it should have been last year as well but whatever. Hughes has the ability to pitch 7 innings consistently day in and day out and joba just doesn’t seem to have that ability.

  114. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:07 am

    I’ve heard the Yankees have contacted Weyerhauser and the US Forest Service to help clear the logjam of talent they have at the upper levels of the minors. :)

  115. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 8:10 am

    Speaking of broadcasters, Sterling did one of his maddening faux HR calls last night on one of Swish’s 2B. Not being able to see combined with a compulsive desire for self-aggrandizement is not a good combination.

  116. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 8:10 am

    Sterling stinks!

  117. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:11 am

    Oh I haven’t posted here almost since pete left – maybe a few times after that so I would like to say hey to everyone. Hope all is well and I am looking forward to another championship season this year – no team looks better than the yankees right now top to bottom. They have an excellent starting five, a younger lineup which is certainly rivals last years if not improved upon it (although I already miss damon A LOT because he was awesome) and they definitely have the pieces for girardi to find a solid bullpen over the next two months. Robertson looks dynamite and seeing joba last night gave me flashbacks from seasons past. SO LETS GO YANKS!!

  118. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:12 am

    “Sterling stinks!”

    Don’t tell the Brittish that !

    Gold is better though. :)

  119. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:17 am

    mtu,

    I agree. I don’t know why granderson gets such a bad rap for his defensive prowess in the outfield. Im sure somewhere here will let me know as I was never very good at gauging outfielders defensive abilities as some on here already know. I think granderson looked pretty good so far and I had always thought he was pretty good in the field but I heard a lot of people this off-season say he is not all that great. He certainly looks capable – definitely better than damon’s arm.

  120. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Actually SJ, I predicted failure for AJ, lol… so yes, I’m one of those children. As you know, I have great faith in him, but last years bombs up in Beantown scarred me nearly for life, lol.

    Michael Kay has a “thing” for Granderson apparently; didn’t he rave on his show about how bad he is against LH? Not listening to Kay has been one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

    Dave, no one loves Phil more than I do, but you should probably temper those expectations. He hasn’t started a big league game in awhile and he’s still a baby. I would think he’d be pretty good this year, but not close to being top of the rotation (though, per Sherman, the Yankees think he’s a #3 masked as a #5). He has a lot to prove………..which is fine, all kids have a lot to prove. Just remember that he is a kid.

  121. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Granderson had a fielding slump last Septmember so the mediots assumed he regressed as a fielder instead of remembering fielders go into slumps too just like hitters.

  122. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Ugh, Rich – I wasn’t listening, but I HATE when he does that; he’s really awful.

  123. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Dave-

    Grandy has a much better than average arm.

    He threw a couple of bullets to the plate.

    Nearly nailed Ellsbury trying to score the other day.

    He is a plus defender out there. :)

  124. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Craw, exactly. For a very nice guy and very good player, Granderson sure isn’t getting the benefit of the doubt from the NY media.

  125. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:22 am

    It’s nice having a really good CF’er again. :)

  126. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Oh, I agree about the banning, but I don’t think Sam (or Chad) really like to do that. I did ask Sam once about banning this poster, but he hesitated; I wasn’t going to spend hours going through the threads searching for posts to use as proof that this poster was offensive, so I didn’t bother following up. I just got the idea that Sam was very reluctant to ban people.

  127. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Betsy-

    I hope you’ll consider having me banned.

    I deserve to be locked up. :)

  128. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    If Sam and Chad don’t step up then more regular and contributing posters will stop particpating in the game threads. I don’t even bother with them anymore.

  129. upstate kate April 7th, 2010 at 8:24 am

    MTU
    what is your weather like?

  130. SJ44 April 7th, 2010 at 8:24 am

    GB called it.

    He had a bad September defensively and now is a “bad OF” according to some.

    Just like after a great WS Matsui ALWAYS comes thru in the clutch.

    All too often, people only remember the last thing they see.

    The truth is often between the two extremes.

    Granderson is an outstanding player who will thrive in NY.

  131. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:25 am

    MTU, you an be locked up with the smiley winkey!

    Craw, people probably need to let Sam and Chad know about this stuff as they don’t visit game threads. It’s easy enough because they can just point to last night or any night were that Dan character shows up.

  132. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    I mean the winky smiley!

    I already saw someone complaining elsewhere about his shaky D and that he got overmatched against Lester on his first at bat. I’m telling you, Granderson is the whipping boy on this team

  133. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Re: trolls on game threads

    Maybe the tech guy (Jeff?) can add a feature that allows users to report an offensive poster and if there is a given number of complaints, maybe that poster can be banned.

    I would also support a log in system.

  134. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Kate-

    Perfection.

    Here’s a link that I find best (NOAA).

    http://forecast.weather.gov/Ma.....038;zone=1

  135. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    I’m not sure what logging in would do, but the other idea you had is interesting, Rich.

  136. SJ44 April 7th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    I agree banning should be a last resort.

    However, some folks, like Dan, earn it. He doesn’t even cloak what he’s trying to do.

    He contributes nothing here.

    Getting rid of him is a step in the right direction.

  137. upstate kate April 7th, 2010 at 8:30 am

    why should Curtis be a whipping boy? He hit a HR his very first AB. Yesterday he got a hit off tough LH Lester. He has played great defense. He is very accountable, and actually takes too much blame.

  138. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Thinking Grandy is bad is like looking at a diamond as a piece of cheap glass.

    What a joke. :)

  139. Crawdaddy April 7th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Big Papi blowing off some steam. If this was Arod, the media would be going nuts.

    “I’ll be fine,” he said. “Of course. I wouldn’t be here [if I didn't think I was about to break out]. It’s not time to start worrying about that [expletive]. Not yet.”

    But Ortiz was pressed a bit, and asked if he thought it was fair people might automatically assume he’s destined for the same kind of two-month slump to begin this season as he suffered last summer.

    That’s when the steam started coming out of Big Papi’s ears.

    “Look, Dawg, I’m not talking. Let me finish,” said an animated Ortiz as he got dressed at his locker following the loss. “You guys just wait until [expletive] happens and then you guys talk [expletive].

    “Two [expletive] games already and you mother [expletives] are going crazy. What’s up with that, man. [Expletive]. There’s 160 games left. Ain’t that [an expletive].”

    http://www.csnne.com/pages/v1_.....eedID=4021

  140. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:33 am

    I agree about banning because some people think posters who worry are trolls; it usually takes work to see which are the trolls and which are people who just worry. Dan is obvious, though, and he doesn’t care and I have to say that it’s awful that in trying to skip his posts, you have to read them because then you might blow by someone else’s post, someone you want to read. It’s time for him to go bye-bye.

  141. Erin April 7th, 2010 at 8:33 am

    MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:32 am
    Thinking Grandy is bad is like looking at a diamond as a piece of cheap glass.

    *********************

    :lol:

  142. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Kate, I don’t know, but you can see that the media refuses to let this thing go. Every single time he doesn’t get a hit against a LF, it’s a referendum on his future performance; every time he doesn’t get a clutch hit, oops – he’s not Matsui/Damon.

  143. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Betsy,

    By top of the rotation, I meant two or three on most teams but not on this team. I don’t expect him to be better than CC or AJ this year. Particularly, because he just can’t throw 200 innings this season. I really think the organization set phil back by putting him on the bullpen. I think he is now well past what could have been a breakout few months for him as a starter last year. He has shown brilliance so many times, he just has to do it consistently. Remember the no hitter against texas until he was pulled? I do. And that was a WHILE ago. I will temper my expectations but i won’t be shocked if hughes starts off bumpy and then, breaks through in a few months to be a number three starter.

    Im thinking along the lines of max scherzer last season – 1.3 whip, 4 era and nearly a strikeout per inning. I dont know how many innings he can pitch this year exactly but I imagine Scherzer’s 170 may be a bit of a stretch although it is certainly feasible i assume. Just remember Betsy, he may be young but he has been in the majors since 2007 and has a good amount of playoff experience under his belt not to mention dominating performances as both a starter and a reliever against the best hitters in baseball. He has logged over 500 professional innings already. It was a strange journey but i think it is time for hughes to settle in this year. His date of birth says he is young but his significant experience says he is ready.

  144. Rich in NJ April 7th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Betsy

    A log in system might discourage the hit and run trolls.

  145. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 7th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    upstate kate -

    On my way out, but just wanted to agree with your take on Kay last night. I have no problem at all with the questions, per se, but both his tone and his unwillingness to let it go were more than annoying. On a hometown broadcast, I believe as a fan I have a right to LIKE the people who come into my home, and there is enough anti-Yankee stuff, controversy (real or imagined) out there should I care to avail myself to it. I don’t need over-the-top whining from Kay. He’s not usually that bad, but last night he was unlistenable.

    I think he has too many divergent interests these days and perhaps he’s too much into his “persona” – plus he’s trying to collect as much fodder for his other pursuits. That’s my take. Either that or he took the challenge that one of his listeners gave him (to be consistent – if he’s gonna take the Yankees to task on his radio show he should do the same during a YES telecast) to heart. (I didn’t listen to his radio show; I read about this from a poster here.)

  146. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    mtu,

    I agree. I dont know why so many think otherwise.

  147. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:37 am

    I’ll tell you who has top of the rotation type stuff.

    He’s a little Mexican guy.

    Name’s Banuelos.

    Learn it. Remember it.

    You’ll be hearing it mentioned often in the future. ;)

  148. Stan April 7th, 2010 at 8:38 am

    It’s only a matter of time before Teixeira, Alex, and the Captain make their presence truly felt with their bats. Meanwhile, they let the gloves make contributions.
    That’s a sign of a well rounded team.

  149. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Dave, I think we’ll see some brilliance from Phil (and I hope if he’s in that situation again, Joe will let him finish the game, lol), but also some some bumps along the way. As long as the Yankees are committed to him long-term, and they clearly are, then it’s all fine. I’m very excited because I think this is his time. He wanted it, he worked hard for it and he’s ready.

  150. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 7th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Dan should be banned because when someone is posting like he did, every other entry was his, he is difficult to ignore. Even if one doesn’t respond, one is subject to the drivel in a constant flow. It’s too tiring.

    And now I’m really out of here!

  151. Rick April 7th, 2010 at 8:40 am

    Carl Crawford with a game winning walkoff double …… minus the pie.

  152. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    ” I dont know why so many think otherwise.”

    IMO because many people are already comparing Grandy to either Damon or matsui, or both.

    Grandy is grandy. he’s not Damon and he’s not Matsui.

    That doesn’t mean he isn’t going to be a great player in his own right.

    Once he establishes himself people will realize his value.

  153. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Granderson is coming off a very odd year in general. I had him on my fantasy team last year and I have to say that I did not expect AT ALL what he gave me last year. He had like a david wright year in which he seemed to get party at one thing at the expense of another. He hit the most homers in his career by far but destroyed my team batting average and his obp after consistently improving every single season went down the drain. I think it was an anomy. For his career, he is not that player at all. More like a 270 350 hitter than his 250 327 year last year. And his power will continue to prosper in yankee stadium.

    I would venture to say he could have 35 homers this year 20 stolen bases and bat the 270 350 career average line above. That would be an incredible season by most player’s standards but it isn’t a stretch for him here in NY. He will also probably give us over 100 rbis and runs. Granderson will thrive in this environment – between the friendly confines of the stadium for lefties, kevin long’s guidance and the yankee lineups ability to almost instill patience into the newcomers, he will probably have the best season of his career. And his age would also dictate that he is in the prime of his career and should put up some of the best numbers he ever has. There are few players that were worth AJax but I am going to say he was one of those few.

  154. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 8:48 am

    Dave-

    + 1

    :)

  155. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 7th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Not only did The Yankees win last night but…

    My team pulled ahead of Patrick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!

    Thank you Health Bell for getting the save :-)

    Its still neck and neck though. This is a tough battle

  156. jennifer April 7th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    These fringe guys covering the team are trying to start drama. Starting first and foremost with the clowns at espnny.

    We do have some great guys covering the team; Chad (of course), Craig, Bryan, Mark.

  157. Erin April 7th, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 7th, 2010 at 8:49 am
    Not only did The Yankees win last night but?

    My team pulled ahead of Patrick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!

    *************************
    Is Johnny Damon on your team???

  158. jennifer April 7th, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Crawdaddy

    I read that earlier. You are right if that was Arod the media would be flipping out. It will be interesting to see how that is played in the media if at all.

  159. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    mtu,

    Well they can compare him to them all they want. Fact is, granderson is younger and more athletic than either of them were even when they first signed their contracts with the team. I love damon and he had a stellar season but his career is coming to a close relatively soon. Plus, you cant rely on speed from someone at that age – much of the reason we would re-sign him would be for the top of the order and to steal bases. Matsui constantly posed an injury risk and COULD NOT PLAY THE FIELD. Just the face that granderson plays the field means he is more valuable, not even wether or not he plays it well (and he does that too!.) People will see the light after a year with grandy – they are probably looking at last year which does not tell you the kind of player he is. He will be far better here.

    And parting ways with matsui and damon as much as i enjoyed their presence here, gives us the tremendous flexibility that we need with posada. And now, we can bring up montero later in the year to dh some as well if he is ready. We couldn’t do that with matsui here. I dont even see a comparison frankly. The only thing one could question would be why didn’t we just re-sign damon anyway to play left. And the answer was likely his age and nothing more. I would have loved it if they re-signed him too but I can totally understand why they went this route. But nick johnson scares me – how many times did he get injured in the one month spring training? I think I know of at least 2 teams. That guy is like a freak injury magnet. Him making it through the season would be a miracle of biblical proportions.

  160. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Dave-

    “nick johnson scares me – how many times did he get injured in the one month spring training? I think I know of at least 2 teams. That guy is like a freak injury magnet. Him making it through the season would be a miracle of biblical proportions”

    Then let’s just pray for that miracle because his skills can be very valuable.

    He didn’t get a hit last night but he still manged to impact the game.

    Getting that BL’ed walk to get the go ahead run is just one example of NJ’s value.

    Personally, I think he will be fine since the great majority of his time will be spent as a DH (much less exposure to risk). ;)

  161. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 7th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Erin April 7th, 2010 at 8:54 am
    Erica ? always OPPC ? Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 7th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Is Johnny Damon on your team???

    ***************

    No. I decided against drafting him. Trisha actually did

  162. Uncle Vito April 7th, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Joba is your 8th inning man AND can go 2 full innings if you need him….with MO the same way…you are looking at a 5 inning game for your starters and that is sweet !….All this BS about the setup job not Joba’s to lose is posturing, period. It is working, so keep it up…but THIS Joba/Mo end of the game team is going to push the 2010 Yankees to 107 wins…AND BEYOND ??? :-)

  163. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    This isn’t really an issue of whether Granderson is better than Damon right now. The thought is that he is much younger and will be better over the next few years and can play CF. They are both really good players but Granderson can still play both sides of the ball at a high level.

    If grandy improves against lefties then he becomes much more valuable than Damon..he had a solid single off of one of the best lefties in baseball last night.

  164. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    MTU,

    But the great majority of his spring training time was spent dhing right? I thought so. And his injuries were from batting and running I believe. I dont know – its like god played a cruel trick on nick and gave him tremendous talent and not the ability to be healthy enough to put it to proper use. Johnson would probably have one of the best resumes in baseball right now if he managed to stay healthy like say jeter or arod. This was a potential annual all star who has made it to 500 at bats exactly once in what should have been his 9 years in the majors. Even with monthly injuries nick still managed to put up a 272 402 career average line. And the one season he finally made it to 500 at bats, he hit 290 428 with 23 homers 46 doubles and 10 stolen bases. Imagine what he could have done with 600 at bats? I hope nick can get to 500 again this year because he will be a potent offensive force with that kind of line above and I will cross my fingers but im not holding my breath.

  165. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    It was one outing for Joba, that’s it. He looked great, but it was just one outing.

    This isn’t even about Granderson v. Damon; the Yankees tried their hardest to get Damon (short of caving to his demands), but he wasn’t interested. That’s it……moving on.

  166. Giuseppe Franco April 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Girardi is never going to let Mo pitch two full innings this season until October.

    Joba won’t be throwing 2 IP much this season, either.

    Try again.

  167. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    You can’t predict fluke injuries like breaking a leg, but Nick’s chronic wrist injuries seem to be in the past and that’s a good thing.

  168. Joe from Long Island April 7th, 2010 at 9:15 am

    Just reading the post before work –

    Sam and Chad – terrific coverage. Nice quotes from Joba, and Jorge and AJ on their work. You don’t find this stuff in the print media.

  169. randy l. April 7th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    nick swisher saw 30 pitches last night.

    the next closest guy on either team had 23.

    with two hits in addition that was a very good night for nick.

  170. 86w183 April 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    did anyone notice that Randy Winn was in RF in the bottom of the ninth? Think about an OF of Damon, Melky and Swish in the late innings and compare that with Gardner, Granderson and Winn.

    HUGE improvement.

    I agree that Granderson will be exceptional this season. He scorched that ball with a runner at third and one out. He hit it right at Youkilis, but you can’t worry about that. Text book win and time to go get another.

    Was kinda funny that Jorge leads off with a double and all it took was a single, deep fly ball, error and walk to bring him home.

  171. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am

    It was just one outing for Joba but I saw some positive things in his last one as well. That’s the best I’ve seen him look in awhile….

  172. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    blake – i agree, it wasn’t about talent, it was about age. The thing is granderson is our centerfielder and damon played left. Why does no one seem to realize that the yanks could have re-signed damon after trading for granderson? It isn’t grandy but gardner and thames that have substituted for damon. I would have liked to re-sign him for the contract that he ended up getting and found it strange that people were saying we already have granderson. Yea but we could have used a left fielder at that point. The whole discussion that seemed to arise over granderson/damon still doesn’t make much if any sense seeing as how we could have had both. The question the yanks needed to ask themselves was if damon himself was worth re-signing at his age? We can live without him but Im sure a lot of people would have preferred damon over gardner in the lineup. I just loved damon as a person and as a player so it was sad to see him go when there was still a chance the yanks could have signed him. Oh well – the team is just as good as last year if not better anyway.

  173. 108 stitches April 7th, 2010 at 9:20 am

    This Yankee team has yet to see the No. 3-4-5 starters and Girardi having a full sense of what the bullpen can be.
    Everybody will be making adjustments for several more games in getting the feel that all the games count and the situational things that go into them.
    Make no mistake about, Girardi learned from Monday night. A good clutch hit, a good game saving fielding play, or some late game heroics will bond the team to what it knows it can be.

  174. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    The Yankees have several candidates who could fill in at DH for NJ.

    Case in point. One Juan Miranda.

    Anyway, I’m an optimist an I think NJ will stick around (pun intended). :)

  175. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Randy,
    Swishers approach so far is night and day from last year. He looks great and I think credit should be given to him for losing the lbs and coming into ST in great shape and to K. Long for the adjustments he’s made…now if we can get him into a geometry class specializing in outfield routes to the ball we will be in business.

  176. murphydog April 7th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    It wasn’t so much that the Yankees won last night, it was the way they won. AJ managed not to let his emotions carry him away. They took pitches from Lester and forced him to throw strikes, driving the pitch count up. They did the same to everybody out of the Sox bullpen. Cano got that great clutch insurance HR, and of course Nick Johnson got the walk that drove in the winning run. And the Yankee bullpen, Mo included, gets Game MVP honors. Of course, Scutaro’s throwing error was a nice extra. (And before anyone is tempted to say that the Yankees only won because of Scutaro’s error, the Yankees made 3 errors last night, so the Sox were +2 in that department).

    You have to credit the Yankees. To beat a great team like the Sox you have to do everything right, keep the pressure. Sometimes you force mistakes. Then you have to take advantage of them. Really nice team win, extra nice teaser performance from Joba.

  177. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Yea but nick’s problems are rarely nagging or chronic injuries or major catastrophes like pavano was. His problems are weird fluke accidents that consistently come out of nowhere. Unlike pavano, his injury history isn’t frustrating, its just makes me feel bad for him. Nick has been payed 23 million with talent that would likely yield him five times that over a career. That is like the exact opposite of guys like pavano who rake in the dough and then, pretend to be injured for four years or whatever Carl was doing – stealing money from the franchise I guess. Also, Nick is actually an amazing player when healthy while pavano will always be a scrub whether pitching or in a hospital gurney. I still can’t say that guys name without wanting to punch something.

  178. 86w183 April 7th, 2010 at 9:28 am

    If you really want the truest comparison from last year to this here is ow it should be viewed.

    Granderson vs Damon — Even though Grandy is playing CF the reality is that he was acquired at a high cost to replace a high cost player

    Gardner/Thames vs Melky Cabrera — Low cost third OF position versus low cost third OF

    Johnson vs Matsui — DH versus DH. couldn’t be clearer

    Yanks are younger at two of the three positions and cheaper at all three, which was the goal going into the off-season.

  179. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:29 am

    Blake-

    “now if we can get him into a geometry class specializing in outfield routes to the ball we will be in business”

    Non-Euclidean routes.

    However, Swisher continues to work hard and his throwing has certainly improved.

    He looks like a new man at the plate with the K. Long tweaks.

    Hope people remember the good of Nick when the inevitable bad shows up.

    Maybe the new approach will reduce the streakiness ?

  180. Frank April 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    “nick swisher saw 30 pitches last night.”

    Without drawing a walk, which is pretty amazing. I think 40% of those pitches were in that AB against Okajima where he fouled off about a half dozen pitches. He ended up making an out, but it was a nice AB that probably served to take some life out of Okajima, and almost certainly keeps him out of tonight’s game.

  181. randy l. April 7th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    blake-

    johnson and swisher saw 51 pitches last night.

    that’s one of those subtle things that makes the rest of the team better.

    it allows jeter or cano to jump on a first pitch without letting pitchers get a breather with quick innings and wears down opposing starters.

    nick and nick are going to be a real pain to opposing pitchers.

  182. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:33 am

    MTU,
    I think it will really help his consistency. He has simplified things..the good far outweighs the bad with Swish.

  183. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    I dont really buy the fact that we didn’t re-sign damon due to the money we were paying granderson. We cut payroll this year a lot. Damon signed a one year 8 million dollar contract. If the yanks wanted to sign him, they would have signed him. Its a very dubious claim that 1 year and 8 million was the reason they didn;t. It is far more likely that it was his age and risk of injury. The yanks have too much money to haggle over one year and eight million. They just won the world series – no team pulls in as much money as the season following that.

  184. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:34 am

    So far Okajima looks like Ouijajima out there.

    I hope it keeps up, and the Yankees have finally figured him out.

    And the smoke and mirrors are gone.

    He’s been a pain in the rear.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing him marginalized. ;)

  185. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Randy-

    “nick and nick are going to be a real pain to opposing pitchers.”

    That’s Nick to a higher power.

    Exactly as it should be. :)

  186. Dave April 7th, 2010 at 9:36 am

    or maybe the yanks are saving their money for carl crawford. I wonder how many years crawford will be asking for?

  187. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Randy,
    I agree, the Nicks are gonna make it possible for the Yanks to demolish a lot of crappy middle relif pitching this year.

  188. MTU (aka GBURL) April 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Blake-

    A lot of teams are gonna get Nicked up by Nick squared. :)

  189. Andrew April 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Pavano was very unlikable and could easily be ripped for never pitching but I don’t think he faked injuries with the Yankees. His threshold for pain & unwillingness to grind through a minor injury maybe you can question but you wouldn’t know for certain either way, but the biggest thing to question is his make-up and his desire/dedication (which were questioned pretty explicitly by teammates, media, fans etc.), and I think that’s why he is so easy to hate for his years with the Yankees. NJ is a different story altogether because his injuries were all pretty serious and all came seemingly out of nowhere. The broken leg especially; hopefully just hitting for the most part this year lets him avoid catastrophe, but the offense is so good that I think even if he goes down for a stretch the lineup will maintain.

  190. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am

    http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....038;page=1

    So what?s been wrong? Talent evaluators debate three possible theories.

    The first is that Chamberlain?s aggressiveness systematically has sabotaged his mechanics. Eiland admitted as much when he said, ?Joba wants to throw the ball so hard, he opens up [his left shoulder] too soon and his [right] arm drags. He loses 2-to-3 mph on that alone.?

    Theory No. 2 is that Chamberlain still hasn?t fully gotten over the fact that a career as a starter ? and the millions of extra dollars he could?ve earned ? has slipped away from him. Joba, of course, says otherwise, but at the very least, changing jobs means has forced Chamberlain to abruptly change the way he prepares to pitch.

    ***

    I thought this was a pretty decent article…

  191. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 7th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Michael Kay will now have to say the game was an “unmanageable (blank) hours and minutes)…

  192. blake April 7th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    MTU,
    I agree.

  193. RayVT April 7th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Let’s not worry about someone getting hurt. If they do the Yankees will fix the issue. Someone like NJ and his role could be filled with an assortment of options. Weber, Miranda, Vasquez or a trade.

    The Yankees look awesome to me with layered depth. I am anxious to see a wonderful season played out!

  194. RayVT April 7th, 2010 at 9:49 am

    I would love for Michael Kay to go to work for the Mets! I really can’t listen to this guy. His ego is almost unsurpassed.

  195. Erin April 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am

    New Post: Today in the Journal News

  196. rodg12 April 7th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    86w183 -
    Don’t forget what I believe to be our biggest move of the offseason…

    Javy Vazquez over Wang/Mitre/Gaudin

  197. 86w183 April 7th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    rog12

    I agree. Just reacting to the others trying to compare which guy to which guy.

    Some still struggle with the idea that only two of the three positions was going to be a big $$ player. I have no doubt that the Yanks would prefer Damon to Johnson as the DH, but it wasn’t worth the extra $$ and 2011 commitment and I agree.

    If Werth or Crawford could be added I suspect Swish goes to DH and Johnson moves on, but that’s a long way off.


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