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A few links from a day off

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Apr 08, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Details continue to emerge about the investigation into Alex Rodriguez. The Times is reporting that federal investigators want to talk to Rodriguez associates who might know how much time and money he spent in connection to Dr. Tony Galea.

Hideki Matsui is in the outfield tonight for the Angels. Mike Scioscia announced yesterday that he planned to put Matsui in the field, and sure enough he’s playing left and batting clean up.

Austin Jackson is off to a strong start with Detroit. Today he had his second straight two-hit day and he has five hits through his first three games. Johnny Damon had two hits in the Tigers opener but went hitless yesterday and today.

Rays’ No. 3 starter Jeff Niemann left tonight’s game after 12 pitches. He was hit in the shoulder by a comebacker in the second inning. That forced the Rays into their bullpen early, one day before they play the Yankees.

Chris Garcia was pulled from tonight’s Double-A start in the middle in the sixth inning. Mike Ashmore reports that Garcia seemed to be hurt because he left mid-batter, and only after the trainer met him on the mound. If he’s hurt, that’s one more tough break for the talented righty. Keep checking Ashmore’s blog for updates.

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312 Responses to “A few links from a day off”

  1. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    mashmore98

    Elbow soreness for Garcia re: Franklin

  2. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Sigh – this Alex thing won’t ever go away. I don’t think he’s involved at all, but if the Feds didn’t care about him, then why the heck are they getting this involved?

  3. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    The Feds are on a fishing expedition.

  4. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 8th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Matthews talking about Granderson’s 2 career HRs off Papelbon

    “But to have a player who gives them a legitimate home run threat against arguably the second-best closer in the American League? Priceless — and for the $30.25 million they’re paying him over the next five years, a virtual steal.”

  5. Rebecca from florida/ Optimist Prime/Jesus, Mo and Joe DiMaggio April 8th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    I miss baseball and New York.

    We’re what, five games into the season and I have not seen a single game of regular season baseball, not even on TV. Closest I’ve gotten is Gameday.

    I miss it.

    Hope you guys are well.

  6. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Rich, who’s Franklin?

    That’s not good; I feel badly for him as I do for any athlete whose body betrays him. These guys really get one crack at it – and that’s it. It’s not like they can play forever – they have a limited time span. When Phil was hurt, I was afraid that he might turn out to be one of those injury prone athletes that never got to fulfill his potential, but at least he hadn’t had arm problems.

  7. Christina April 8th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    I saw Christian Garcia in Tampa and went out of my way to ask him if he was ” finally” healthy this year. He smiled and said “yeah, looking really good.”

    So much for that.

  8. Rebecca from florida/ Optimist Prime/Jesus, Mo and Joe DiMaggio April 8th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Betsy: Tony Franklin is Trenton’s manager

  9. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:49 pm

    Okay, I’ll come right out and say it. Nick Johnson will be a bust and Matsui is the better hitter.

  10. Christina April 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    and PS this new blog format is interesting… When did it change?

  11. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Betsy,

    What are you apologizing about?

    I was just giving you the highlights of Matthews newest article because I know how much you enjoy reading his article

  12. Carl April 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Sigh – this Alex thing won’t ever go away. I don’t think he’s involved at all, but if the Feds didn’t care about him, then why the heck are they getting this involved?

    Because Alex hasn’t talked to them yet. Don’t know why he couldn’t talk to them today. Or maybe he did. He needs to stop rescheduling. But hey I’m know lawyer.

  13. Rebecca from florida/ Optimist Prime/Jesus, Mo and Joe DiMaggio April 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    I agree, Betsy

  14. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    The manager, Betsy.

  15. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    LGY, I’m saying sorry because I didn’t want to offend you. I skipped what you posted from Wally as I have absolutely no desire to read it. There’s no need to be sarcastic – are you posting this stuff to annoy me?

    Rebecca, thanks!

  16. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Murphy, I want to see Bud try and suspend Mo for his comments. If I’m the Yankees or Sox, I won’t play a game with West as an umpire.

  17. Carl April 8th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    I hope Hinske goes deeeeep

  18. Rebecca from florida/ Optimist Prime/Jesus, Mo and Joe DiMaggio April 8th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    “# Rebecca from florida/ Optimist Prime/Jesus, Mo and Joe DiMaggio April 8th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    I agree, Betsy”

    Not me. Just FYI.

  19. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Garcia’s injury may be bad, according to Ashmore so now you know why I capitalized IF.

  20. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Rebecca, it’s sad. I remember someone saying once that “potential” was the saddest word in sports because it implies that it’s unfulfilled….. I would hate to be an athlete with all the talent in the world who ends up having to wonder “what might have been”.

  21. Carl April 8th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    maan he just missed a bomb :(

  22. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Thanks, Rich.

    Aww…that really stinks; sometimes things aren’t meant to be.

  23. jennifer April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    It doesn’t sound good for Garcia. Hopefully he is wrong and it is just scare tissue or something.

  24. Carl April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Come on Melky!

  25. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 8th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Betsy,

    There was supposed to be a :) at the end of that post. I am just joking with you.

  26. Rishi April 8th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Melky with an opportunity for his first ATL walkoff

  27. Jerkface April 8th, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Melky Cabrera clutchly strikes out in the 9th with 2 on and 2 out down by 2.

    no clutch Hr for melky :(

  28. Rishi April 8th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    :( poor Melky

  29. SAS April 8th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Tom N.J.

    Thanks…my computer skills leave a lot to be desired. My love of the Yanks, however, out dates just about everyone on here.

  30. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Melky is only clutch when he knows he’s getting pie.

  31. tampayank April 8th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    the MelkMan doesn’t deliver :(

  32. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    I figured that, LGY, but I would honestly rather not see that guys garbage.

    LOL folks on NYYFans saying Jeter is off to a slow start and commenting on his bad SS play thus far.

  33. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    I saw this on NYYFans:

    Garcia: “It was pretty serious.”

    **This is not shaping up to be a good year for Yankee prospects at all. First Horne, now Garcia…very bad start.

  34. tampayank April 8th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    if Alex has been avoiding speaking to them for over a month that’s not a good sign on his honesty…..

  35. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Betsy

    Is Wallace Matthews now posting on NYYFans?

  36. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/

  37. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    From Mike Ashmore’s Twitter:

    “# Garcia: “I got to the point where I couldn’t throw my next pitch.” 3 minutes ago via web
    # Garcia: “It was pretty serious.” 6 minutes ago via web

    # Spoke to Garcia. Could be bad. 9 minutes ago via txt ”

    We’ll see but not being able to throw a next pitch is obviously not good.

    http://twitter.com/mashmore98

  38. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    Re: the Feds and Alex

    I was concerned about precisely this use of the interview notes with MLB, but gave Alex’s lawyers enough credit that they wouldn’t lock him into a story with any jeopardy for Alex before he talked to the Feds. I still credit his lawyers and still think the answers he gave to MLB won’t come back to hurt him.

    Still, the suggestion that the Feds are looking at Alex’s finances suggests strongly to me that the Feds will or already have issued blanket subpoenas for Alex’s financial (bank, credit card, etc) records – - and probably his cell phone records and e-mail records too. The power of the Government is awesome and the ego of the average Assistant US Attorney is magnificent to behold; two things not to trifle with.

    People, especially the rich and famous, who don’t fall down dead when the Feds come calling are going to have their closets checked very thoroughly for skeletons. Your tax dollars at work, folks.

  39. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    LOL Rich…and Madden and Lupica as well

    Now Garcia is really stupid for continuing to pitch while feeling pain…..

  40. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    You’d have thought that by now he’d have learned his lesson……It does sound serious, unfortunately.

  41. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    murphydog

    Don’t they have to at least inform his lawyers that he’s a subject of the investigation?

  42. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    “**This is not shaping up to be a good year for Yankee prospects at all. First Horne, now Garcia…very bad start.”

    At times, fans don’t understand the purpose of the yankee farm system.

    Roster spots are what’s most valuable to the yankees – more than money.

    The success of the yankees minor league system this year is largely tied to Montero’s development.

    That’s just the way it goes. Horne and Garcia getting hurt is dissappointing but there was no chance you could count on those guys for anything.

    Those guys – those high, high risk guys – aren’t the ones that a farm system’s success really depends on.

  43. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    I don’t doubt Alex’ s honesty as I don’t think he’s involved at all; people with stuff to hide are not as relaxed as Alex has been. I just think it’s unfair that the stupid Feds are after Alex, but they don’t care about Beltran or Reyes.

  44. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    CB, that’s true, but the Yankees have too many of these guys in their system; no wonder it’s ranked in the mid-pack. It would be one thing if it were just Horne and Garcia, but Kontos, Betances, etc…. The list goes on and on.

  45. stuckey April 8th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    How bizarre is it that the guy can go through 6-7 weeks of spring training, make exhibition starts, fully prepare to be the opening day starter and the second he takes the mount for “real”, his arms goes….

    Very strange.

  46. Y's Guy April 8th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    alex is an admitted steroid user doing buisness with a suspected ped supplier. there may be nothing to it, but he made himself vulnerable and you cant be suprised that the prosecuters want some confirmation of what alex and his lawyers have been telling them. lets just hope alex didnt try the roger clemens strategy of thinking he could just blow smoke at them and he actually came clean. either way, given alex’s history i cant blame prosecuters for checking up on his story.

  47. Jerkface April 8th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Depending on the result, Garcia is going to be a 40 man casualty

  48. champ809 April 8th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    ARod just seems like he can’t get out of his own way sometimes.
    The feds seem to have taken to digging around his pals because he’s stonewalled them for 3 months now about this interview.
    For someone who has nothing to hide and supposedly was going to be forthcoming and cooperative seems strange that he keeps putting it off and inviting more speculation and scrutiny.
    Meanwhile how many leggy blondes do you think he’s “interviewed” around FLA these last two months?!
    hmmm!

  49. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Ike davis lead off the top of the 7th with a double but, Logan got a ground out a strikeout and Miranda flagged down a shot down the 1st base line to end the inning. 1-0 Scranton

    Montero, that dog, hits an easy bouncer to third to open the bottom of the 7th, and curtis does the same

    Charleston wins 5-2. great pitching from all the kids and everyone wins. scranton starting the 8th inning

  50. stuckey April 8th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    In other news – 5 more outs in Tampa for first place for the Yankees..

  51. Joe from Long Island April 8th, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    1. If Garcia did have TJ surgery, 2007?, this strikes me as too late to be scar tissue breaking up. Could he have re-injured his elbow, and require a 2nd TJ? It’s very rare, but just ask Xavier Nady – it can happen. Nady’s symptoms were an acute inability to throw the ball in from RF. I know this is pure specualtion on my part. The quotes above do not sound hopeful. I hope, for this young guy’s sake, that he can get over this.

    2. murphydog – I was had the impression, via reading the newspaper accounts, that Alex’ lawyers were orchestrating his appearance according to whatever their concerns were; that’s where the delays are coming from. If the feds don’t care for this, might they be going after Alex’ acquaintances and financial records as a way to get a message across? Talk to us on our terms or have us make you miserable sort of thing?

  52. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    “if Alex has been avoiding speaking to them for over a month that’s not a good sign on his honesty…..”

    Or it’s a sign that his lawyers have dealt with the Feds before and are waiting for them to play their hand before Alex commits to anything. It could just be a dance.

    People can go from being mere “witnesses” to “targets” fast with those Federales. IMO, the Feds have not convinced Alex’s lawyers that they are only looking for information from Alex or he would have met with them already. Maybe Alex’s lawyers are holding out for some solid guarantee against prosecution from the Feds and it’s not forthcoming. Doesn’t mean Alex has anything to hide, but good lawyers don’t let their clients go to the Government without bullet proof protection against unforeseen problems.

  53. tampayank April 8th, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    well Beltran and Reyes denied HGH use publicly to the media if I remember correctly….AROD hasn’t said anything….I hope he’s been clean the last year since surgery but I’m not naive…when you get your lawyers to delay something it doesn’t pass the sniff test. Similar to the Big Ben case where he never game them DNA in his SA case in Georgia

  54. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    murphydog

    Don’t they have to at least inform his lawyers that he’s a subject of the investigation?

    Yes, at some point. The timing of that is somewhat of an art.

  55. z April 8th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Christian Garcia — born under a bad sign.

  56. champ809 April 8th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    hopefully the news improves over the next couple of days with Garcia. It really is a shame that kid has “ACE” talent in that arm!

  57. Giuseppe Franco April 8th, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Meanwhile how many leggy blondes do you think he’s “interviewed” around FLA these last two months?! hmmm!

    ————

    A guy who can get pretty much any woman he wants would rather spend time with the hooches than a bunch of mean old suits who want to interrogate him.

    I find that shocking.

  58. Fran (the original) and OPPC member April 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Does anybody know if the Feds are investigating Tiger Woods as extensively as Alex? Woods was also treated by Dr. Galea.

  59. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Well, I still have faith in Alex…I just want this over and done with.

  60. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    After reading the NYT article, it seems to me that the Feds are sending a message to Alex’s lawyers through the author of the article.

  61. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Why isn’t the Angels game being broadcast on Extra Innings? Do they not broadcast every game?

  62. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    “but the Yankees have too many of these guys in their system; ”

    No they don’t.

    You only need 12 guys on a major league pitching roster.

  63. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    I would love someone to interrogate the darn Feds one day; they’re ticking me off.

  64. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    murphydog – I was had the impression, via reading the newspaper accounts, that Alex’ lawyers were orchestrating his appearance according to whatever their concerns were; that’s where the delays are coming from. If the feds don’t care for this, might they be going after Alex’ acquaintances and financial records as a way to get a message across? Talk to us on our terms or have us make you miserable sort of thing?

    You’re right about the Feds firing one across his bow. It may be a tactic or it may be the beginning of a deeper tossing of ARod’s life by angry Feds. Still I have to believe that his attorneys are looking for guarantees that the Feds are not coming forward with, e.g., we’ll talk to you under the right conditions for my client. And the Feds are saying “no conditions, he just talks to us or we get the info from someone else and then God help him.”

  65. stuckey April 8th, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Some of your would be amazed at how much fun baseball can be when you simply stop paying attention to things having nothing to do with baseball…

  66. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    “If Garcia did have TJ surgery, 2007?, this strikes me as too late to be scar tissue breaking up.”

    Alas, Garcia has already had a cleanup procedure post TJ to clean up bone chips and scar tissue.

    That’s why he missed time last year.

  67. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    CB, it just seems they have a disproportionate #of kids with this type of injury history. You’ve said before (I think) that the farm is not only used to supply the big club with players, but also to bring back needed talent. Garcia is not really an asset anymore, nor is Horne. Betances is very iffy and I don’t know about Kontos. With only Montero close (Romine is probably 2 years away), the system strikes me as very unbalanced.

  68. Y's Guy April 8th, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    the other thing that disadvantages alex in this case is the fact that he said he got his ped’s in the past from the d.r., which means they were brought into this country illegally. in the galea case these same issues arise again, a canadian doctor suspected of supplying atheletes in the u.s. and arranging for or actually transporting the ped’s himself across the border.

    i cant blame either side for the current logjam, alex’s people dont want him to have to say anything he doesnt need to and the feds likely feel the need to nudge alex and his lawyers to give them the info they want.

    its a dangerous dance, but i dont think theres all that much to it. once they meet that will likely be the end of it.

  69. tampayank April 8th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    “# Fran (the original) and OPPC member April 8th, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Does anybody know if the Feds are investigating Tiger Woods as extensively as Alex? Woods was also treated by Dr. Galea.

    Woods addressed it to the media during his Masters Press Conference. He denied ever using HGH or any drugs for that matter publicly and said Galea gave him that plasma treatment. AROD hasn’t said anything to the media to flat out deny any PED use from the meeting from Galea and that’s what frustrates me as a fan that wants to trust the ‘new Arod’. The fact that Philopon didn’t even know about AROD meeting w/ Galea when he did the surgery raises eyebrows. I hate being negative but if this ends up bad how much can the Yanks take w/ him possibly embarrassing this franchise again-rant over

  70. EricNS April 8th, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    I like Grandy but will regret losing Jackson.

  71. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    “I would love someone to interrogate the darn Feds one day; they’re ticking me off.”

    I get to cross examine investigators/cops/agents frequently. They are not perfect, they make mistakes and sometimes I catch them. (Often however my clients have left a little too much evidence lying around for cross examination to be anything other than a phyrric victory).

    Many of these law enforcement types are well meaning people who are scrupulously honest and care about making the world a better place and some would take a bullet for you even if they didn’t know you. But some of them are real nightmares. The Feds are famous for their, shall we say, superiority complex.

  72. z April 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    lawyers, federal agents and baseball:

    One of these things is not like the others

    One of these things just doesn’t belong

  73. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    Betsy

    Thats why I wanted Chapman, Hechavarria, and now DePaula.

  74. Joe from Long Island April 8th, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    murph – In a way Alex brought this on himself. Sounds like he went to Galea on his own. But, my understanding is that no player has ever been charged with anything like possession or usage or whatever the term is. Perjury, though, is another matter. Kind of like income tax evasion, in that they get you in the lie, rather than the actual deed.

    In any case, can’t imagine what it’s like for Alex, to try and block this stuff out and play baseball. At some point, someone’s going to blink, and I don’t think it’s going to be the feds. I can’t see Alex and his lawyers letting this go on all season.

  75. Jerkface April 8th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    With only Montero close (Romine is probably 2 years away), the system strikes me as very unbalanced.

    Melancon, McCallister, Nova, Miranda, Russo, Curtis could all contribute this year.
    Every system gets hit with injuries.
    The Yankees have to draft guys with questionable histories because that is who falls to them in the draft, and the high reward is worth more to the Yankees than another team that cannot take the risk.

  76. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    “i cant blame either side for the current logjam, alex’s people dont want him to have to say anything he doesnt need to and the feds likely feel the need to nudge alex and his lawyers to give them the info they want.

    its a dangerous dance, but i dont think theres all that much to it. once they meet that will likely be the end of it.”

    Agreed. At least I hope this is just tug-of-war stuff.

  77. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Murphy, you have a very interesting job, lol.

    Rich, I understand. I don’t want to get into the Chapman thing, but I was fine with the Yankees. They liked him, but didn’t want to guarantee that he’d be up in the majors shortly. Other big teams passed on him, too. We’ve rehashed this again and again. I hope we get DePaula. Echevarria ? Forget him – the kid didn’t want to wait for Jeter to retire; nothing you can do about that.

  78. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Logan is perfect on the 8th inning with 2 more strikeouts, giving him 3 in 2 innings. Scary thought. Albaladejo will try closing out a 1-0 game.

    1 out and Russo walks with Corona batting. Grounds into forceout. Miranda battiing. double. runners on 2nd and 3rd

    fly out. going into the top of the 9th.

    The Trenton box. Laird continues to get his hits. 2-4 with a run scored. some day, people will give him some prospect respect.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_treaax_1

  79. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Betsy

    My point simply is that because of their draft position, as jerkface mentioned, there are few opportunities to get high end talent, and when the opportunity arises, imo. you do whatever you can to get it when your pockets are monstrously deep.

  80. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Jerkface, most of those guys are not high end talent, though.

    I agree with what you’re saying, but how many high risk players have they drafted that have worked out?

  81. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    “it just seems they have a disproportionate #of kids with this type of injury history”

    They really don’t. The important point is proportionate. Take a glance at the proportion of pitcher’s they’ve drafted over the past 5 years.

    What you’re observing is a combination of selection bias from their draft strategy and the sheer number of pitchers that comprise their most valuable prospects.

  82. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Rich, understood. Well, the Yankees clearly have a budget. Also, I’m fine with the Yankees not just throwing $$$$ at every kid; I’m glad they have their limits.

  83. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Mike Gonzalez doing his best to try to keep the Yankees out of 1st place :twisted:

  84. murphydog April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    “Murphy, you have a very interesting job, lol.”

    Like the Fifth Labor of Hercules, mucking out the Augean Stables.

  85. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    “Okay, I’ll come right out and say it. Nick Johnson will be a bust and Matsui is the better hitter”
    ————————————————————————-

    vaulable insight. Thanks, betsy

  86. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Betsy

    I would save money on the Thames, Winns, Gaudins, etc.

  87. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    GB-

    I was impressed with Laird’s play at third during ST.

    I guess he has made progress ?

    The bat looked very good.

  88. Jerkface April 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Jerkface, most of those guys are not high end talent, though.

    Most teams don’t have multiple ‘high end talent’ guys ready to break into the majors? Unless you’re the Rays, who draft well AND suck (a great combination), you’re not going to get a bunch of #1 guys. And even they have had a bunch of busts!

  89. Joe from Long Island April 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    GB – thanks for the minor league updates. You’re the best.

  90. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    CB, I’m not sure understand what you mean…

  91. champ809 April 8th, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Betsy

    It may SEEM like the Yanks have a disproportionate # of these types of injuries occuring in their system vs. others but it really is not the case.

    Firstly for the last 4-5 yrs the Yanks have primarily drafting high ceiling big arm pitchers in an effort to develop frontline starting pitching and so they have a plethora of these types of players in their system.

    The fact is that every farm system around the league goes through this because many of the top prep and college stud pitchers are abused and mishandled by HS and College coaches who are more concerned with their own programs and legacies to the detriment sometimes to the arms and futures of these kids.

    As fans of the Yanks we clearly are more in tune with the goings on of The yanks org but unfotunately this is a league wide “problem”.

    In some cases- Brackman, Melancon, Bleich and Brett Marshall to name a few the yanks have actually drafted and signed a player knowing full well or at least expecting that said player may need TJ surgery immediately. The surgery has become so routine and effective that it’s not viewed as that big a deal anymore.

    Shoulders however are a whole diff animal.

  92. m April 8th, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Was that working around cc or did Hernandez just totally lose the plate?

  93. Nick in SF in San Rafael, CA April 8th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    murphydog, we’re lucky to have someone of your background, expertise, intelligence, and temperment commenting on these matters.

    Or maybe I just still appreciate your having told me that it was ok to like Amelie “Capulet” Benjamin.

  94. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    LOL Murphy

    My boss was an ex-FBI agent; I know he helped put away one big wig, but I don’t remember who it was.

    Vinny, WTH are you talking about? I never made that comment. Nice – you fell for some idiot imposter.

  95. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Rich-

    It would have been nice to get the guys you mentioned.

    But I’m greedy, and Chapman in particular was expensive and not deemed
    worthy for the level the Yankees thought he was at.

    However, in the Reds system he ranked higher than a minor leaguer.

    They’ll probably ruin his arm.

    Hope we get De Paula as a # of people appear high on him.

  96. z April 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    I think Gonzalez was pitching around Crawford there

    visions of opening night maybe dancing through his head?

  97. champ809 April 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    GB

    The key for Laird this season will be to avoid the first half slump that seems to follow him around.

    If he gets of to a good start right out the gate he may finally hit over .300 this year with 20+ HR power.

    Hopefully this is a sign of good things to come for him.

  98. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Rich, you need some of these types on your ML team. You happen not to like these players, so it’s easy for you to say just save money with them, but the Yankees like them and think they can help the big club. I don’t think signing Winn, etc… stopped them from signing Chapman. The kid didn’t want to sign with a team that couldn’t guarantee that he’d be in the big leagues within a year or so… That was his choice.

    Jerkface, that’s true.

  99. stuckey April 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    So what’s that? 2 runs allowed between Scranton, Trenton, Tampa and Charlston combined?

    Nice night.

  100. Y's Guy April 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    im as big a matsui fan as there is, but i have no problem letting him go considering his age and the condition of his knees. i wish him the best against everyone but the yankees and i will always give the guy a standing O every time i see him come to the plate. but it was time to move on.

  101. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    Albaladejo gets the save with a perfect 9th, striking out Fernando Martinez and Ike davis to end the game. Melancon gets the win with 2 innings after the rain delay

  102. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    MTU

    Yes, I’m greedy too, that’s why I wanted him. Plus, I think overtime, he actually (and perhaps paradoxically) saves money.

  103. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) April 8th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    “Vinny, WTH are you talking about? I never made that comment. Nice – you fell for some idiot imposter”
    ————————————————————

    betsy: my bad. I had noticed a few of the regulars, hating on Nick Johnson already.

    peaceBw/

  104. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    GB, I just saw your post from the prior thread; I appreciate it. The only site I pay is Pinstripes Plus, but I dont go there that often. For the last word in prospects, I do come here – but then, this is where I hang out most often anyway.

  105. CB April 8th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    “The key for Laird this season will be to avoid the first half slump that seems to follow him around.”

    The key for Laird this season and perhaps for his career is improving his command of the strike zone.

    He gets himself out too often.

  106. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Vinny, no problem. I had an imposter imitating me before and not very well. I would never hate on any player; in fact, I’ve been defending NJ (and Curtis) for the last couple of days. Nick the Stick was a favorite of mine in his previous tour of duty; he’s got the walks down pat, now he just needs a hit, lol.

  107. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Betsy

    I prefer to fill marginal roster spots with cheap homegrown players. Over time, that would produce significant savings that could be reinvested elsewhere in an attempt to get more bang for your nominal dollar.

  108. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Champ, thanks for the explanation. I forgot about Marshall – he was supposed to be pretty highly regarded; I hope he bounces back.

  109. steve April 8th, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    After three games I have the following observations about the 2010 Yanks.

    1. Rotation — I think our 1-5 is far stronger than our 1-5 from last season. I am expecting solid performances from Vazquez and Hughes. If Andy can stay healthy, he looks to be a solid #3. CC starts slow but once he gets going, he is solid and a true #1. AJ Burnett will keep us on pins and needles but I think we will get more solid starts than clunkers.

    2. Pen – Provided Mo is healthy and does not show his age, our pen has the makings of being a real strength. We saw what Joba is able to do in game #2 against the Sox. Last night Chan Ho Park gave us three solid innings of relief. Aceves look good in game #2 as well. Marte and Robertson have not looked great but I believe they will be fine.

    3. Offense – Arod, Cano, Posada and Swisher will be solid this season. I have no reason to believe that tex will not produce as well if not better than last season. Jeter is the captain and perhaps he will not match last season’s average but he will still hit over .300 and give us clutch hits. Johnson is a grinder. If he stays healthy, he will flirt with .300 and have a .400 + OBP. Myseries are Granderson and Gardner. Granderson has pop. the ball jumps off his bat. The question is how he fares against lefties. Gardner adds speed but needs to show he can hit and get on base enough. His potion is the one position that could get upgraded by midseason if we need to look at a trade.
    4. Bench is a bit weak. Pena and Cervelli are solid defenders and have shown they can make contact and get some hits. As long as they are spot starters and defensive replacements they are more than suitable. IF they are forced to replace a Jeter- ARod or Posada for any length of time then we lose too much offense. Winn is a better than average 4th outfielder who can play all 3 OF slots and probably hit around .270. Thames is a defensive liability. He is a PH and occassional DH. If we can upgrade his slot we should do so.

    5. Defense — Posada’s offense helps overlook his defensive weaknesses. Our infield otherwise is solid. Granderson is a huge upgrade in CF. Swish is at best average. Gardner is still learning.

    Summary:

    Yanks look tough in a division that has two other solid contenders in the Rays and Sox. Cashman may need to look at some bench depth by mid season or swing a deal that gives us better production in LF and put Gardner on bench.

  110. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Joe and MTU. You guys are most welcome. Enjoy doing it. Did you get the link to free audios of the minor league games?

  111. CD April 8th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Let’s face it, Alex didn’t simply get an anti inflammatory shot for his hip.

    He got alot more. Tony Galea = Dr. Feelgood

  112. champ809 April 8th, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Melancon is a “high end” talent Bets….

    And as Jerk and Rich are pointing out being that the yanks are yearly drafting in 1 of the last 3 spots “high end, can’t miss” position players are usually gone by that point whereas high ceiling arms are abundant because of signability issues and the crapshoot that developing pitchers is in comparison to position players.

    It’s why the Yanks got lucky with Slade falling because of injury and some ?’s about his makeup.

    the BJ and Justin Uptons or the Evan Longoria’s and Tulowitzkis almost never fall in our laps and it’ll be a long long time before we suck enough to pick in the top 10 of a draft.

    Although interestingly enough the Yanks and everybody else passed on Longoria coming out of HS and as a result he went to a juco school and then wound up at Long Beach State rooming with Tulo who was the “star” of the team. All Evan proceeded to do was absolutely mash and make himself into the #3 pick in the draft.

  113. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    CB, that’s his issue. He chases too many just off the plate and hits nubbers. Doesn’t strike out much, nor does he walk much. Sort of a Cano Lite. He has some serious power in all directions, though.

  114. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) April 8th, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    Most of us that follow the Yankee minor leagues expected Garcia to pull up lame this season. We didn’t expect it this soon, but suspected it was just a matter of time. As far as Horne, I think the ship has sailed on him, at least as far as a Yankee prospect.

    Secondly, Betances and Kontos were hurt last year and have already started to pitch off the mound again.

  115. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Champ, I hope Melancon does well and that he eventually gets called up. I agree about the Yanks having to take chances – I have no problem with that. I’d rather they take chances instead of playing it safe.

  116. Trevor April 8th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Anyone watching YES?

  117. raymagnetic April 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Christian Glassia hurt again, smh. :( :cry:

  118. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    GB-

    I tried the audio feed but it wouldn’t come through. Thanks anyway.

    I follow some of it on Gameday.

    By the way, are you able to get AA, A, etc. games as well as AAA ?

  119. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Craw, I knew Kontos had started to throw, but not Betances. Well, I wish them all the best. Poor Horne and Garcia……….

  120. pat April 8th, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    murphy

    Why wouldn’t they issue a subpoena? What’s the downside for the Feds in that?

  121. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Blake-

    If you’re out there.

    How did you like watching the MiLB game ? Good experience ?

  122. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
    GB-

    I tried the audio feed but it wouldn’t come through. Thanks anyway.

    I follow some of it on Gameday.

    By the way, are you able to get AA, A, etc. games as well as AAA

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    O get all of the feeds from all minor league teams and the televised games.

    As far as not getting the feeds, make sure you have real player or windows media turned on as well as your audio. all you have to click on is the “Listen” command and wait until it loads.

    Use this site, or I’ll give you another on the next post.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball...../audio.jsp

  123. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Click on Multimedia at top center and then Multimedia gameday audio

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/index.jsp

  124. blake April 8th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    MTU,

    It was pretty good, be nice if they had better camera angles. I hate behind the plate views but I guess you can’t expect too much for a minor league game. I think its probably worth 29 bucks for as many games as you get to see.

  125. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    GB-

    Thanks. I’ll see if that works next time. I’ll check on the real player/windows media player thing.

    It would be nice to listen once in a while especially when Montero’s homers make such a distinctive sound. ;)

  126. CB April 8th, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    GB7,

    Laird can square the ball up and that’s the basis for hitting. But while that’s necessary it’s not sufficient.

    He has potential because the ability to square up the ball is the most valuable in the entire game. He has that. You could see it in spring.

    But advanced pitchers could give him fits if he’s trying to hit their pitches rather than forcing them to pitch on his terms.

    Jason Heyward’s home run on opening day has gotten alot of attention. It was a monster shot.

    But that highlight doesn’t tell the whole story. You have to watch the at bat. Zambrano threw Heyward two good fastball’s that were out of the zone – but not badly so. Most young players swing at those pitches – those are pitcher’s pitches. Zambrano’s trying to get the kid to expand the zone.

    But Heyward wouldn’t do that – he wouldn’t expand the zone. And those are the first two pitches he’s seen in the majors. He runs the count to 2-0 and then Zambrano has to come into him with a fastball and makes a mistake Heyward crushes.

    If the count wasn’t 2-0 he never gets that pitch to crush.

    Now Heyward is an extreme case and few players are going to have that kind of strike zone command.

    But that’s the direction Laird needs to take his game if he’s going to get to that next level.

  127. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    Blake/GB-

    I might just have to rub an extra 2 nickles together and spring for it. :)

  128. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    CB, he’s moving up the cgarts pretty well for a 27th round pick. He’s always been streaky. When he’s cold, everybody gets him out and when he’s hot, he’s nearly impossible. When he learns to foul off the close pitches and hammer the mistakes, he’ll be fine, I think. I’ve always been more concerned with his glove than his bat. He’s made huge strides in his defensive play, though. Like Romine, though, he’s not likely to walk much. Very similar hitters, though Romine has very good footspeed.

  129. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    CB, I’m not sure if you saw my post, but can you clarify what you meant by your 10:29 post? Thanks!

  130. MTU(aka GBURL) April 8th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Friday’s lineup :

    Jeter
    NJ
    Tex
    A-Rod
    Can Do
    Posada
    Swish
    Thames/Winn
    Grandy

  131. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    I can see Heyward going in two directions. Great talent, huge power, but, as much as he’s like a young andruw Jones, he could be a Gorman Thomas type, too. Of course that goes for every player. With him, I don’t see a middle between Jones/Thomas. He may have changed in the last couple of years, but, that’s what I saw when he played for Rome. I didn’t see a lot of his games, but, he struggled against Savannah and Charleston with strikeouts when I saw him.

  132. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Rather strange that neither ESPN or MLB is reporting this new Rodriguez revelation nor are any of the other papers.

  133. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    “Rather strange that neither ESPN or MLB is reporting this new Rodriguez revelation nor are any of the other papers.”

    It’s just a matter of time before the story gets picked up by the wire services and then republished.

  134. CB April 8th, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Betsy,

    Basically the yankees are systematically drafting higher risk pitchers. In addition they are drafting a lot of pitchers – a disproportionate number compared to how many position players they are picking. And in general pitchers get hurt frequently. So if you draft more pitchers you are going to wind up with more injured prospects.

    You brought up Kontos and Betances. Those are interesting guys.

    Kontos and Betances were both drafted in 2006. The same year they took Kennedy, Chamberlain, Robertson, Melancon, McCallister and Dan McCuthcheon.

    How are those guys doing?

    In fact, of the first 20 rounds in the 2006 the yankees took 14 pitchers. 14. The idea that a significant number of those 14 weren’t going to get hurt is unrealistic. That’s just probability. And that’s even more true when you draft high risk guys like the yankees do. They took Melancon knowing he would likely need surgery.

    I really doubt the yanks are all that surprised Betances got hurt. He was very raw and didn’t repeat his mechanics well partly because he’s so tall. They took him anyway. If you don’t repeat your mechanics you are much more likely to get hurt.

    But it was being so raw (and really wanting to play for the yanks…) which made Betances drop in the draft to begin with. The two things are inter related.

    They drafted Kontos – knowing that he had a mysterious drop in velocity during college. I doubt they’re surprised he needed surgery. When they did Kontos’s surgery they found that his ligament was a mess – it must have started years ago. Probably when he was in college which would explain his dip in velocity.

    But it was that dip in velocity which made him fall in the draft which is what allowed him to get selected by the yanks.

    In general, people underestimate the impact that selection bias has on many observed phenomena. This injury to yankees prospect issues is one of them.

  135. GreenBeret7 April 8th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    How much time do they need….it was in the early morning edition of the NYT. I’m sure that this well connected source chose to talk only to one person…….anonymously, of course.

  136. Rich in NJ April 8th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    ” When they did Kontos’s surgery they found that his ligament was a mess – it must have started years ago. Probably when he was in college which would explain his dip in velocity.”

    That actually dovetails with what Dr. Jobe has long said about TJ surgery. Contrary to the idea that pitchers gain velocity subsequent to the surgery, Jobe has said that what actually happens is that because there is usually a chronicity to the injury, pitchers usually experience a gradual drop in velocity as the elbow ligaments fray and tear. After the surgery performs, they regain the velocity they have lost rather than gain velocity they never had.

  137. Chip April 8th, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    The quotes coming out of trenton don’t sound good for Garcia.

  138. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    CB, thanks for the explanation! The 2006 draft turned out pretty well and it could turn out better if Melancon progresses. I understand that they needed to restock the system with pitchers, so it makes sense that they drafted mostly pitchers when Cash first took over. Hopefully Kontos and Betances will recover well from the TJ surgery and do well enough to where they are either prospects for us or assets to be traded. I was rather negative about the upper levels of the farm system, but it seems the lower levels are well stocked; this will be a fun year to follow the kids.

  139. CB April 8th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    “The 2006 draft turned out pretty well and it could turn out better if Melancon progresses.”

    That’s why the disproportionate attention to injuries to two of the guys Kontos and Betances is really misguided.

    That draft was enormously successful – a franchise changing draft and people keep focusing on injuries as if it were reasonable to expect all 14 of those guys to stay healthy.

    It’s ironic too because perhaps they also took Tim Norton that year and he started off great in the NY Penn league only to tear his rotator cuff.

    Pitchers get injured. They always have.

  140. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Chip, it’s depressing; it’s almost painful to read how Garcia was crushed.

  141. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 8th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    CB, it’s probably not a good idea to get attached to prospects, but I can’t help it. I’m that way with Phil, I’m probably getting that way with Romine and I think Heathcott may be next. I try to avoid thinking about Phil’s injury history whenever he takes the mound (even though except for some soreness early in his pro career, he hasn’t had arm problems), but I’m not always successful. You never know when the last pitch a pitcher throws will be his last, but then, you never know when a pitcher will just take off. It’s frustrating watching young pitchers, esp. ones of Phil and Joba’s caliber, suffer their ups and downs, but I try to remember that if they turn out the way we hope, all this will have been worth it.

  142. CR9 (MLB = Home of the Scumpires) April 8th, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Anybody hear about Tiki Barber joining the celebrity cheat list!

    LOL @ Barber. He got his comeuppance for bashing the Giants upon his retirement!!!

  143. pistol pete April 9th, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Love Grandy but don’t like our lineup vs leftys. Why the heck did we sign Winn when we already had Gardner who is left handed. We needed a right handed bat and Winn can’t hit leftys. With Winn, Gardner, and Grandy we’re too suspect vs leftys and Thames certainly can’t carry the water. We are going to need a righty at some time during the year. The difference last year was our leftys could hit leftys this year they can’t.

  144. Bronx Jeers April 9th, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Winn’s a switch hitter.

  145. JD April 9th, 2010 at 12:56 am

    I think Jermaine Dye is still looking for a job, would he except a roll on the bench?

  146. BJK April 9th, 2010 at 1:34 am

    pistol pete April 9th, 2010 at 12:12 am
    Love Grandy but don’t like our lineup vs leftys. Why the heck did we sign Winn when we already had Gardner who is left handed. We needed a right handed bat and Winn can’t hit leftys. With Winn, Gardner, and Grandy we’re too suspect vs leftys and Thames certainly can’t carry the water. We are going to need a righty at some time during the year. The difference last year was our leftys could hit leftys this year they can’t.

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    Wait, why can’t Thames carry the water?

    And who says Gardner can’t hit lefties? He only had 55 at bats against them last year, but hit .291 with a .384 OBP in that small sample size. Gardner’s shown nothing but improvement so far, why I assume he will fail?

    And by the way, we’re talking about the #9 hitter here. Our #7, #8 and #9 hitter would be the #1, #2, and #3 hitters in many other starting lineups.

    Our #7 hitter hit 30 HRs last year. Our #8 hitter hit 29 HRs. Do you realize how sick that is?

    If Granderson can improve to “decent” against lefties, this is a non-issue. It almost still is anyway. Nick Johnson actually has a higher career batting average against lefties.

    And we signed Winn because he is a good defender that can play all 3 outfield positions.

  147. m April 9th, 2010 at 1:47 am

    It was a remix, but it’s still the same ol’ song that pistol pete’s been playing every day for weeks.

  148. Brandon's Awesome (So full of AWESOME that you wish you could be me) April 9th, 2010 at 1:50 am

    Oh screw you Chris, I gave up on you.

  149. m April 9th, 2010 at 1:53 am

    Do you edit your post from the day before? Or do you start a fresh one each day?

  150. Corey April 9th, 2010 at 5:26 am

    Austin Jackson saddens me. But Oh well I love Granderson.

  151. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) April 9th, 2010 at 7:09 am

    “Why the heck did we sign Winn when we already had Gardner who is left handed”
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    of every newspaper article etc, the Brian Cashman interview with Nom@@s is the only article to reveal the answer

    Cashman explained, he liked Reed Johnson as a player but did not trust his ability to stay healthy. An attribute he needs for the 4th OF’er on the team. At the same time, Cashman didn’t expect Winn to be available at that price, and he jumped

  152. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) April 9th, 2010 at 7:10 am

    the truth: Reed Johnson would’ve been a better fit for the 2010 Yankees

  153. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 7:13 am

    I bet that by midseason Winn will be the regular lf.

  154. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 7:26 am

    I agree with vinny-b. Cash said they decided against him due to health issues, but how much PT would he have gotten anyway.

  155. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 7:27 am

    Actually Winn makes more sense than Johnson. If the club isnt sure Gardner is an everyday player then bringing in Winn – who is – makes more sense than a career platoon player – Johnson.

  156. vinny-b (Granderson is my fave NYY position player - no rite of passage necessary) April 9th, 2010 at 7:35 am

    “Actually Winn makes more sense than Johnson. If the club isnt sure Gardner is an everyday player”
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    that’s just it,

    we do know Brett Gardner is an everyday player in this lineup. It is why he’s the starter. This lineup will thump. And with Gardner the speedster, in the #9 hole

    true, Gardner didn’t face the very difficult Jon Lester. It is not in the plan for him to. However, wouldn’t it have been better if Reed Johnson would’ve been in the lineup Tuesday night, rather then Marcus Thames?

    anyone, feel free to provide this answer…

  157. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 7:36 am

    That assumes that Winn can still hit, which is still in question at this point. Plus, in 2009, which is not irrelevant given Winn’s advanced (baseball) age, Johnson was better v. LHP:

    Johnson: .324 .403 .500 .903
    Winn: .158 .184 .200 .384

  158. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Vinny –

    We don’t know that Gardner’s an everyday player. We’re two games in and he’s performed alright – but it’s always good to have insurance.

    Regarding your comment about Johnson vs. Thames – would Johnson have gotten to that ball, sure, but Thames is a lot more likely than Johnson to do serious damage against a left handed pitcher.

    Rich –

    Winn can not only still hit, but I would far rather have a player I can count on to be healthy than one I can’t.

    When you bring up Winn vs. Johnson keep in mind also that Winn had twice as many ABs vs LHP because Johnson couldn’t stay healthy.

  159. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am

    Chip

    How do we know that Winn can still hit, and if so, at what level? His career OPS+ is 99, so even when he hits, he’s league average. To this point, he has looked lost in every AB I have seen.

    Given how small a role Johnson would be likely to play, his chances of getting hurt would almost certainly be attenuated.

  160. Crawdaddy April 9th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    You’re assuming that Johnson wanted to come here instead of going back to the LA area to play for the Dodgers.

  161. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Craw

    At least according to Ken Davidoff, Cash said the issue was about health. Any sense that Johnson may not want to play here was never mentioned.

  162. Crawdaddy April 9th, 2010 at 8:18 am

    I’m just saying that negotiations with any player has more detail to it than what you read from some media acticle. Some factors in why a player signs or doesn’t sign is never revealed in any media reports.

  163. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    Rich –

    Has Winn even had an at bat this season to look lost in?

    I don’t think you can say that Johnson getting hurt would be attenuated by a small role since:

    a) Winn’s not here to be Gardner’s platoon partner. If that’s all the Yankees were looking for then they probably would have gone with Johnson. Winn is here in case Gardner falls flat on his face and the Yankees need an everyday LF.

    b) Johnson was supposed to play a similarly small role on the Cubs last year and still missed more than two months of the season on the DL

  164. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    Let’s say you’re right. The Yankees had the $1.1m (plus close to $800,000 in performance bonuses) they gave Winn, the $900,000 (plus another $900,000 in performance bonuses) they gave Thames, and the $2.9m they were willing to give Gaudin at the time of signing. Is it unreasonable to think that the money could have yielded a better LF option?

  165. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:27 am

    And if, after three games, you think you’ve seen enough from Gardner to cement him into the lineup then I would remind you that after those same three games A-Rod’s hitting .133 with an OPS+ of 10 and Tex is yet to get a hit.

  166. rover April 9th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Hate to see anyone injured but injuries happen. I do like a slightly used BP at the rays

  167. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:29 am

    Chip

    ST counts for marginal players. It’s unfortunate but it’s true. If Thames hadn’t hit at the end of ST, he may not have made the team according to Cash’s (and Girardi’s) quotes.

    Less PT equals less opportunity to get hurt.

    a) That’s a scary thought.

    b) I think it would have been a more prudent risk.

  168. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Chip

    Come on, it’s folly to compare Gardner to A-Rod or Teix based on any sample size given their massively disparate careers.

    And btw, if I was relying on Gardner to hit enough, I wouldn’t have posted that the Yankees needed more of a LF upgrade than any of the names we have discussed.

  169. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:33 am

    Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:26 am
    Let’s say you’re right. The Yankees had the $1.1m (plus close to $800,000 in performance bonuses) they gave Winn, the $900,000 (plus another $900,000 in performance bonuses) they gave Thames, and the $2.9m they were willing to give Gaudin at the time of signing. Is it unreasonable to think that the money could have yielded a better LF option?
    —————————–

    Who?

    Mike Cameron? No thanks – with Granderson and Swisher in the lineup adding Cameron would have been putting 3 guys in the lineup capable of striking out 200 times.

    Matt Holliday or Jason Bay – that money wouldn’t have covered it

    Johnny Damon – Yankees didn’t believe he could stay healthy either and don’t think he’s a good LF anymore.

    Trade for David DeJesus – all for it. But after the deals for Granderson and Vazquez I don’t think the Yankees wanted to part with more prospects.

    Marlon Byrd – wanted to cash in on a career year and did

    Rick Ankiel – well right now he’s a back up player for an awful Royals team so I don’t know how much of an upgrade he would represent.

    Garrett Anderson, Xavier Nady, Rocco Baldelli, Jermaine Dye….

  170. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Come on, it’s folly to compare Gardner to A-Rod or Teix based on any sample size given their massively disparate careers.

    It’s also folly to assume that a player is done based one poor season in my opinion or that a player will be able to handle playing everyday based on his performance over three games.

    Are we to assume that Vernon Wells is back based on his hot start against the Rangers?

  171. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:39 am

    Chip

    I don’t know who was available, but there were probably credible options.

    As you may have read, Sherman reported that Cash had a trade completed for Cameron last season, but Hal wouldn’t authorize the additional funds. But that does mean that Cash likes his talent.

    Obviously, I wanted Damon back for one more year. The runs he produces on offense would almost certainly counterbalance the runs he may no longer be able to save on defense.

  172. rover April 9th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Alex is dealing with people (some) who will sell mom to the taliban if it gets their name in front of the public. Its the ” I brought down so and so Syndrome”!
    Lesson 1.
    If you are innocent, never talk to them ever.
    Lesson 2.
    If you are not innocent , never talk to them ever.
    Lesson 3.
    Unless you are one of them, You are meat to be used for promotional purposes to be disposed of when used up.

  173. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:41 am

    Chip

    Not when that player is 35, an age when many athletes begin an inexorable decline.

    No.

  174. Crawdaddy April 9th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Until I see a larger sample size from actual 2010 data, I like our LF options.

  175. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:45 am

    I like Gardner…

  176. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Rich –

    I’m not against Cameron’s talent, but when Cashman was looking at him he didn’t have two high strike out guys already in the lineup like he does this year. And the Red Sox did give him a lot of money.

    Two things on Damon:
    a) The Yankees couldn’t get him for 1 year (he only settled for 1 year from Detroit when the Yankees were officially no longer an option and his choices were 1 year from Detroit or forced retirement)

    b) The Yankees don’t need his offense.

    Hey – if you want to tell me you would rather have traded for a David DeJesus than go with Randy Winn and Brett Gardner you’ll get no argument.

    The Yankees obviously aren’t sold on Gardner/Winn/Thames grouping – that’s why they brought in guys like Golson, Winfree, Hoffmann and now Chad Huffman. And it wouldn’t shock me in the least if by mid-season LF is played by David Winfree or Greg Golson or Chad Huffman or Colin Curtis – or the Yankees make a trade. But given what was available on the FA market (below) I don’t think Winn was a bad choice at the price and was a better option than Reed Johnson.

    here’s the list of FA Outfielders from last winter, courtesy of Cots:
    Garret Anderson ATL (B)
    Rick Ankiel STL
    Rocco Baldelli BOS
    Jason Bay BOS (A)
    Marlon Byrd TEX (B)
    Mike Cameron MIL (B)
    Frank Catalanotto TEX
    Endy Chavez SEA
    Coco Crisp KC
    Johnny Damon NYY (A)
    David Dellucci CLE
    Jermaine Dye CWS (A)
    Darin Erstad HOU
    Cliff Floyd SD
    Ryan Freel TEX
    Brian Giles SD (B)
    Ken Griffey Jr. SEA
    Vladimir Guerrero LAA (B)
    Eric Hinske NYY
    Matt Holliday STL (A)
    Geoff Jenkins * PHI
    Reed Johnson CHC
    Andruw Jones TEX
    Gabe Kapler TB
    Austin Kearns * WAS
    Mark Kotsay CHW
    Hideki Matusi NYY
    Jason Michaels CLE
    Xavier Nady NYY (B)
    Scott Podsednik CHW
    Dave Roberts SF
    Gary Sheffield NYM
    Fernando Tatis NYM (B)
    Randy Winn SF (B)

  177. blake April 9th, 2010 at 8:49 am

    It there really any point to debating Randy Winn vs. Reed Johnson. Winn has a better track record with health and is a better overall player. Hes been a solid regular his entire career and was a pretty good one as recently as 2008. Lets let him at least get one AB before determining he’s a mistake.

  178. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 8:52 am

    Chip

    I don’t view a strikeout as worse than any other out, and it’s better than a DP.

    a) But Damon did reportedly call Hal, so he continued to have at least some interest in returning even before he signed with Detroit.

    b) I don’t know what DeJesus would cost, and I don’t know who else was available via trade.

    I don’t mind Gardner getting a shot. Until proven otherwise, I don’t like Thames/Winn at this stage of their respective careers.

  179. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Blake,

    I don’t get the impression Rich is thinking Winn vs. Johnson; I think it’s more Winn/Gardner vs. a legit everyday LF.

    The bottom line is that LF this year is stopgap. The plan is obviously to muddle through this year and upgrade to Crawford next season. Much like when the Yankees didn’t bring in Johan the plan was to muddle through 2008 and then bring in CC.

  180. blake April 9th, 2010 at 8:56 am

    “The bottom line is that LF this year is stopgap. The plan is obviously to muddle through this year and upgrade to Crawford next season. Much like when the Yankees didn’t bring in Johan the plan was to muddle through 2008 and then bring in CC”

    I agree with this. I think they have their eyeballs directly on Carl Crawford and will sign him unless Gardner gives them reason not to.

  181. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 8:59 am

    I don’t view a strikeout as worse than any other out, and it’s better than a DP.

    I do, it’s a completely unproductive at bat. If you have a batter who puts the ball in play then there are more chances something good happens for your team.

    But Damon did reportedly call Hal, so he continued to have at least some interest in returning even before he signed with Detroit.

    Yes, and he said he would be glad to take the original 2 year deal that Cashman had put on the table. By that point the Yankees had Nick Johnson to bat in the 2 spot and felt that Gardner would offer far better defense in LF than Damon would and Johnson would offer the same offensive production.

    I don’t like Thames/Winn at this stage of their respective careers.

    Thames is one of the better sluggers against LHP in the game. And he knows how to play off the bench. Winn will be better than you give him credit for. And if not, they make a move to improve their bench like they did last year.

  182. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:01 am

    I agree with this. I think they have their eyeballs directly on Carl Crawford and will sign him unless Gardner gives them reason not to.

    Of course I’ll be darned if I know what their Plan B is….maybe DeJesus, maybe Werth.

  183. blake April 9th, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Chip,

    I think plan A is a hopeful one. They hope Gardner steps up and shows that they don’t need a LFer for next year. If not then I think plan B is Crawford/Werth/trade etc…whichever makes the most sense at the time.

  184. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Blake –

    I think if they miss out on Crawford there’s a better chance of a Colin Curtis/David Winfree guy slotting into LF than Gardner everyday – I just view him as a light hitting Juan Pierre.

  185. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    “I do, it’s a completely unproductive at bat. If you have a batter who puts the ball in play then there are more chances something good happens for your team.”

    You overlooking the benefits that each player produces despite the Ks.

    “Yes, and he said he would be glad to take the original 2 year deal that Cashman had put on the table. By that point the Yankees had Nick Johnson to bat in the 2 spot and felt that Gardner would offer far better defense in LF than Damon would and Johnson would offer the same offensive production.”

    I never read that, but even assuming that it’s true, the mere fact that he called signals that he may well have been open to a negotiation. Cash considered Damon even after Nick signed. Again, you have to look at offense/defense, not one or the other in a vacuum.

    “Thames is one of the better sluggers against LHP in the game. And he knows how to play off the bench. Winn will be better than you give him credit for. And if not, they make a move to improve their bench like they did last year.”

    Reed Johnson did better v. LHP than Thames last season and is much better defensively.

  186. The Captains Blog April 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    @ Rich

    Reed Johnson’s good splits are from a while back. Recently, he has rarely been able to stay on the field. Cashman specifically said he didn’t pursue Reed Johnson because of his injury history.

  187. 86w183 April 9th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Hal has made it clear has has a financial plan and he sticks to it. I think it’s an admirable trait.

    The bottom line is Johnson, Granderson and Vasquez got the money that could have gone to Matsui, Damon and Melky. That’s the true choice.

    Which trio would you prefer? I’ll take an established starting pitcher and a LF by committee over a 35-ish LF and rookie or retread in the rotation.

  188. blake April 9th, 2010 at 9:14 am

    chip,

    A lot can transpire between now and when that decision will be made. I think the Yanks are just in watch and wait mode regarding LF right now.

    Rich, the strikeout thing largely depends on who the hitter is. For Ryan Howard, a strikeout isn’t a crucial because he has the power to make up for it (althought the K’s do separate him from someone like Pujols or Teixera for me). For Brett Gardner, a K is the worst outcome because anytime he puts the ball in play he puts pressure on the defense and doubling him up is extremely difficult.

    In general a strikeout is different than any other out IMO but there are situations where you accept them because of the player and what other positives that swing can provide.

  189. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 9:09 am

    You overlooking the benefits that each player produces despite the Ks.
    Not really. Cameron’s a solid fielder with good power. The Yankees don’t need anymore power in their lineup and Gardner/Winn are just as good defensively

    I never read that, but even assuming that it’s true, the mere fact that he called signals that he may well have been open to a negotiation. Cash considered Damon even after Nick signed. Again, you have to look at offense/defense, not one or the other in a vacuum.
    Nick Johnson’s a DH – so his defense is moot. The point is that the way Cash looked at it, Johnson could give him what Damon did in the two spot and Gardner would be an upgrade in LF

    Reed Johnson did better v. LHP than Thames last season and is much better defensively.
    It was never a question of Thames vs. Johnson – it was Johnson vs. Winn. Again, Winn is a better option if the Yankees are uncertain about Gardner as an everyday player. Thames is here to come off the bench as a pinch hitter against a tough lefty. He started because of the combination of Jon Lester on the mound and the safety of having the monster behind him in LF

  190. JohnC April 9th, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Hated to see Austin Jackson go before he had a chance with us, but you have to give up something good in order to get someone good.

  191. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Rich, the strikeout thing largely depends on who the hitter is. For Ryan Howard, a strikeout isn’t a crucial because he has the power to make up for it (althought the K’s do separate him from someone like Pujols or Teixera for me). For Brett Gardner, a K is the worst outcome because anytime he puts the ball in play he puts pressure on the defense and doubling him up is extremely difficult.

    Bingo.

    I would love to have Adam Dunn on this club as the DH despite his strike out totals because of what he brings that so few others can in terms of pure power production. In fact, before Johnson and Winn were brought in my ideal Yankee lineup would have been:

    Jeter
    DeJesus – LF
    Tex
    Alex
    Dunn – DH
    Jorge
    Cano
    Swisher
    Granderson

  192. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Hated to see Austin Jackson go before he had a chance with us, but you have to give up something good in order to get someone good.

    I was fine with it – the odds of Austin Jackson becoming as good as Curtis Granderson are slim.

  193. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 9:27 am

    You are making far too big a deal about Cameron’s negatives and not nearly emphasizing enough the positives. He is a better player who will likely produce more than whoever the Yankees have in LF and that is really what matters. As the 9 hitter, how he does produce does not really matter much.

    Striking out is generally only a “big deal” with RISP. With a guy standing on first or the bases empty what are the chances something “good” happens? How many times over the course of the season is putting the ball in play going to go from an out to a hit? Like blake said, with Gardner’s speed putting the ball in play helps him get hits, but Cameron does not really have that kind of speed. With a guy on 1st putting the ball in play is probably more likely to turn out bad than result in a hit because of an error.

    Also, about being an unproductive out. Criticizing Cameron for that does not really hold much water unless you cite his splits regarding productive outs and compare it to other players. I beat the Cameron drum this winter, so I do not really care to get look up those stats again.

  194. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am

    That said, Cameron’s price point and more particularly years turned out to be too much.

    I would much rather have the Yankee options for 1 year than Cameron for 2/14 million.

  195. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    LGY -

    Two questions:

    1. Do the Yankees need more power in their lineup?

    2. Is Cameron all that much better defensively than Gardner/Winn?

    In my opinion the answers to both are no and so there’s really no point to handing a 36 year old a 2 year $16 mil deal when they can get by with Winn/Gardner for one year at a total of under $3 mil and then go after Crawford next year.

  196. Chip April 9th, 2010 at 9:35 am

    LGY – Child Prodigy/GB7′s Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 9:30 am
    That said, Cameron’s price point and more particularly years turned out to be too much.

    I would much rather have the Yankee options for 1 year than Cameron for 2/14 million.
    ———————–

    LGY – Right exactly. But also given the Yankee lineup the “plusses” that Cameron offers are gravy that they don’t really need.

    On the other hand, Boston had to replace the power of Bay and hedge against poor seasons from Ortiz and Drew and Lowell/Beltre – so that’s why Cameron’s power is a bigger plus for them than it would be for the Yankees.

  197. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    blake

    Do you have a problem with Swish or Granderson’s Ks relative to what they offer?

  198. JohnC April 9th, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Dos anyone have an audio of Sterling’s call of Grandersons home run the other night? I’m curious to hear him sing CandyMan.

  199. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 9:38 am

    “Reed Johnson’s good splits are from a while back. Recently, he has rarely been able to stay on the field. Cashman specifically said he didn’t pursue Reed Johnson because of his injury history.”

    I mentioned that above, but as I said, given how little Reed Johnson was likely to play, the chances of him getting hurt were likely reduced.

  200. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Chip

    You were the first one to bring up Cameron?

  201. awaism April 9th, 2010 at 9:42 am

    From si dot com

    Normally not one to mix it up in the media, Mariano Rivera fired back Thursday at Joe West, the umpire who criticized the Red Sox and Yankees for their slow play. The Yankees closer ripped the umpire after West criticized the Yankees and Red Sox over the pace of their games. West was the crew chief for this week’s series between the teams. “It’s incredible,” Rivera told The Post. “If he has places to go, let him do something else. What does he want us to do, swing at balls?” … “He has a job to do. He should do his job,” Rivera said. “We don’t want to play four-hour games but that’s what it takes. We respect and love the fans and do what we have to do and that’s play our game.

  202. jennifer April 9th, 2010 at 9:44 am

    When Mo talks people stand up and take note!

    Quick question if someone can find the answer. Which teams play the shortest games. My guess is the poorer teams in the league.

  203. Bronx Jeers April 9th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    “Dos anyone have an audio of Sterling’s call of Grandersons home run the other night? I’m curious to hear him sing CandyMan.”

    ————————————————————————————————————————–

    Well…Sort of.

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....jr-to.html

    Courtesy of It is High.

  204. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 9th, 2010 at 9:48 am

    jennifer -
    I don’t know the answer to your question, but in yesterdays’ boxscores, every game had a time of game listed; today’s? None of them did.

    Because now I’ve found a new obsession – checking length of game. :lol:

  205. blake April 9th, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Rich,
    I did with Swisher last year and apparently so did he and Kevin Long..that’s why they changed his approach and shortened him up. He looks much better because of it this year. Actually Long has worked extensively with both guys you mentioned. They aren’t many guys with enough power to make strikeouts irrelevant IMO and even in those cases (Howard) the players could improve themselves by putting the ball in play more.

  206. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 9:54 am

    I think Theo outsmarted himself this winter. He said something to the effect of, I did not emphasize defense, I just wanted to sign good value players. Well, that is not entirely true, because most of Cameron and Beltre’s value comes from their defense.

    Anyway, both Cameron and Beltre are good value players in a vacuum. But, the game is not played in a vacuum and rosters are not constructed in a vacuum.

    By passing on Bay/Holliday and signing Cameron Theo seriously compromised his lineup. The total runs will probably be there at the end of the season, but in key situations, against good teams, and good pitchers the lineup is very easily exposed. The Yankees, after 3 games, have already exposed that flaw by pitching around Youkilis to get to Ortiz.

  207. jennifer April 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Doreen- I am going to start looking at that as well.

    I contend till proven wrong; your KC’s, Baltimores, of baseball all of shorter games, in short because they are bad teams. LOL

  208. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    Doreen, all of the times are at the bottom of each complete box score. just click on “box”.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/

  209. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Again, I don’t want Joe West umpiring any Sox or Yankee games and I’m thrilled that Mo spoke out; he’ll probably get squeezed now by West’s cronies.

    I didn’t mean to look at it, but someone posted an excerpt on another board and I was forced to: Wally Matthews actually blamed Nick Johnson’s tendency to take pitches for the slow games.

  210. GeorgeInJax April 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Our farm teams all did well.
    We had good pitching performances at the 3 top levels.
    Ivan Nova AAA Chris Garcia AA and Hector Noesi High A.
    Hope Garcia is OK, If he stays healthy he can be awesome. Big IF though.
    It’s good to know we have a lot of talented arms in the pipeline.

  211. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Long games, excuse me…..

  212. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 9:58 am

    I don’t even care how long the games are; doesn’t bother me one bit.

  213. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    I hope West has never seen Star Wars or any of these type of epics that last for close to 3 hours. If so, did he call the movies pathetic and embarrassing?

  214. yanksince57 - JESUS H MONTERO! April 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    i haven’t read all the comments, but did anyone mention that the top 3 farm clubs all had shutout wins in their openers? also, the trenton home attendance trounced the swb home attendance! chad, please elucidate why

  215. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 10:00 am

    blake

    I’m not sure that the change in approach will cut down on strikeouts as much as it will permit him to hit for a higher AVG. The two may be correlated, but it’s hardly a -1.0 (i.e., high Ks = low AVG, low Ks = high AVG).

    And your take on Granderson’s Ks?

  216. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Because of the threat of a rainout in scranton. There was an hour and 14 minute delay in the 4th inning of that game.

  217. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:01 am

    1. I couldn’t care less about the Alex drama. Until it happens and there is hard news reported about it – if there is that – then it’s all speculation and fluff. Let’s leave Alex alone.

    2. About Matsui – I am thrilled for him. I hope he does well in the field and it is awesome that he is batting cleanup. The Yankees had the right to want an outfielder who could play in the outfield. Hidecki was not coming back as DH, probably because the situation with his knees made that as iffy as his playing the outfield. You need your knees to hit as well as to field. That said, the guy was pure class and dedication. The happiest moment for me was his finally getting his ring. And there isn’t a question that his hitting in the postseason helped win a lot of games.

    3. Austin Jackson – sweet sweet and sweeter. You have to give to get, and for us to get what we did, it was obvious that a player of Jackson’s calibre was going to have to be part of the mix. I am sad for us but wish him nothing but the best. The guy rocks.

    4. About Jeff Niemann – that’s terrible news for the Rays. Hopefully it’s nothing serious. I saw that the Os won and was happy for them because I don’t like to see any team get knocked around – well okay maybe just one. :) Now perhaps it was Neimann’s absence that propelled it. I like the Rays and the makeup of their team. I have no fears of anyone dominating the Yankees. I don’t believe in us up, everyone else down. I like to share the wealth and see all teams actualized. Of course the best way for that to happen is for the other teams to share wins and losses. Then when we beat them, it won’t be as painful for them (or me, who has difficulty seeing teams lose all the time – okay except for one. :)

    5. About Christian Garcia – now that pains me inside and out. I refuse to believe the things that happen with this kid. Is it just pure bad luck? Did someone practice Santarria (sp?) on him? Is he so out of condition because of always having to heal from something that he just can’t get himself totally healthy and that leaves him vulnerable? All questions, no answers. But dammit that one kills me.

    Finally, about seeing Rebecca back here. That one confuses me. I’m pretty sure she spent a lot of time at RAB (her right of course) but what I found offputting was when someone reported that she had encouraged some of those guys to come over here and check on fan reactions to something because their concept of this forum was that it was nothing but cry babies and bridge jumpers. I remember someone posting her post from over there and I found her pot stirring pretty lame. Even if it is the case about our forum, it’s really weak to trash us and then show up and want to play nice. Of course she may not know that someone exposed her, or she may not care.

    JMO

  218. Rishi April 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    :arrow:

  219. jennifer April 9th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    What did Joe West do during Steve Tracsals games? The guy took a minute between pitches.

  220. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    As usual, I posted to the lead-ins without reading all of the posts. So if there are updates about any of the guys’ injuries, I didn’t see them.

    *****************

    A shout out to my Nats. Tyler Clippard and Brian Bruney (it was an adventure but he got it done) helped in insure that they beat the big bad Phils. May they have more and more success as the season goes on.

    :)

  221. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    trisha, Niewman had a bruise to his non-pitching shoulder. If he’s sore, he might miss a start but not likely.

  222. blake April 9th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    Rich,

    If Swish continues with this approach then I’d guess the average will go up and K’s down.

    As for Granderson, his K rates are much higher against LH pitching and I think the high K totals are at least somewhat related to that problem. He’s a really good player but the K’s and problems against lefties have kept him from reaching elite level. If he improves both of those areas then he could get there.

    I never said a player that K’s a lot couldn’t be valuable, just merely making the argument that its not ideal and sometimes keeps players from being more valuable, especially if the player can run.

  223. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    GB – THANK YOU!!!!! Oh Lord that makes me feel so much better. I almost wanted to hop a plane and go and give the kid a hug. It will be one of the biggest wastes of talent that I have ever seen, if he does not someday realize his promise. Gee he deserves it. He’s definitely my personal individual player “project” this year.

  224. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:11 am

    GB – duh. I take it all back. I read Niemann and thought Garcia.

    :( :( :( :( :(

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