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Today in The Journal News

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Today in the Journal News on Apr 09, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Curtis Granderson has already hit his first and second home runs with the Yankees. Nick Johnson has to get a hit, but he’s been taking his usual walks. Chan Ho Park has his first Yankees win against the Red Sox.

Today Javier Vazquez will make his season debut with the Yankees. Sam has the story of Vazquez’s return to pinstripes, and what might be different this time around.

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  1. Uncle Vito April 9th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Javy will do great today….book it, Dan-O !

  2. Erin April 9th, 2010 at 10:03 am

    Happy Birthday to David Robertson!! :)

  3. Hey Kelvin says April 9th, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Hey Chad or Sam quick question, at what Gate do you come in through the stadium? I’m supposed to be working with the Media/Press and was wondering If I’ll get a chance to see you guys?

  4. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    I think Theo outsmarted himself this winter. He said something to the effect of, I did not emphasize defense, I just wanted to sign good value players. Well, that is not entirely true, because most of Cameron and Beltre’s value comes from their defense.

    Anyway, both Cameron and Beltre are good value players in a vacuum. But, the game is not played in a vacuum and rosters are not constructed in a vacuum.

    By passing on Bay/Holliday and signing Cameron Theo seriously compromised his lineup. The total runs will probably be there at the end of the season, but in key situations, against good teams, and good pitchers the lineup is very easily exposed. The Yankees, after 3 games, have already exposed that flaw by pitching around Youkilis to get to Ortiz.

  5. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    NJ will be fine…
    I’m really looking forward to Javy’s return; he’s going to have a terrific year.

  6. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:05 am

    (repost – since I’m always late to the dance but please have pity. I haven’t been feeling well.)

    1. I couldn?t care less about the Alex drama. Until it happens and there is hard news reported about it ? if there is that ? then it?s all speculation and fluff. Let?s leave Alex alone.

    2. About Matsui ? I am thrilled for him. I hope he does well in the field and it is awesome that he is batting cleanup. The Yankees had the right to want an outfielder who could play in the outfield. Hidecki was not coming back as DH, probably because the situation with his knees made that as iffy as his playing the outfield. You need your knees to hit as well as to field. That said, the guy was pure class and dedication. The happiest moment for me was his finally getting his ring. And there isn?t a question that his hitting in the postseason helped win a lot of games.

    3. Austin Jackson ? sweet sweet and sweeter. You have to give to get, and for us to get what we did, it was obvious that a player of Jackson?s calibre was going to have to be part of the mix. I am sad for us but wish him nothing but the best. The guy rocks.

    4. About Jeff Niemann ? that?s terrible news for the Rays. Hopefully it?s nothing serious. I saw that the Os won and was happy for them because I don?t like to see any team get knocked around ? well okay maybe just one. Now perhaps it was Neimann?s absence that propelled it. I like the Rays and the makeup of their team. I have no fears of anyone dominating the Yankees. I don?t believe in us up, everyone else down. I like to share the wealth and see all teams actualized. Of course the best way for that to happen is for the other teams to share wins and losses. Then when we beat them, it won?t be as painful for them (or me, who has difficulty seeing teams lose all the time ? okay except for one.

    5. About Christian Garcia ? now that pains me inside and out. I refuse to believe the things that happen with this kid. Is it just pure bad luck? Did someone practice Santarria (sp?) on him? Is he so out of condition because of always having to heal from something that he just can?t get himself totally healthy and that leaves him vulnerable? All questions, no answers. But dammit that one kills me.

    Finally, about seeing Rebecca back here. That one confuses me. I?m pretty sure she spent a lot of time at RAB (her right of course) but what I found offputting was when someone reported that she had encouraged some of those guys to come over here and check on fan reactions to something because their concept of this forum was that it was nothing but cry babies and bridge jumpers. I remember someone posting her post from over there and I found her pot stirring pretty lame. Even if it is the case about our forum, it?s really weak to trash us and then show up and want to play nice. Of course she may not know that someone exposed her, or she may not care.

    JMO

  7. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    As usual, I posted to the lead-ins without reading all of the posts. So if there are updates about any of the guys? injuries, I didn?t see them.

    *****************

    A shout out to my Nats. Tyler Clippard and Brian Bruney (it was an adventure but he got it done) helped in insure that they beat the big bad Phils. May they have more and more success as the season goes on.

  8. ditmars1929 April 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Even though he had a not so good first season with the Yankees (and he was pitching injured, I hear), I always thought the Yankees should’ve held on to Javy. I’m glad he’s back, and I hope he has a great outing tonight!

  9. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    trisha, Niewman had a bruise to his non-pitching shoulder. If he’s sore, he might miss a start but not likely.

  10. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 9th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    GB7 -

    Thanks for that link. When I have time (ha ha) I plan I doing something to track those numbers.

    Whoever asked about the attendance in Trenton? One reason could be because they had the WS Trophy on display on the concourse there! :)

  11. Rich in NJ April 9th, 2010 at 10:08 am

    LGY

    What about the idea that you have previously raised that Beltre’s ability to hit well as a pull hitter will enhance his offensive effectiveness at Fenway?

  12. ray (sox fan) April 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am

    I was just reading that the Civil War ended 145 years ago today.

    Just curious, GB what was that day like? :)

  13. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Ray, the Civil War is still being fought in the North, apparently -every time the Yanks and Sox play, lol. What are fans/media saying up in Beantown about Joe West’s comments?

  14. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Oh, and April 12 (Monday) is the 100th anniversary of Fenway Park…congratulations, I think? :mrgreen:

  15. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:13 am

    GB, I just did a whole gushing post on the other thread in response to yours and then realized I read Neimann and was thinking Garcia. Duh duh duh duh duh.

    :(

  16. ray (sox fan) April 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Hey Betsy. Everything I have read or heard about pretty much reflects the same sentiment expressed on this blog about Joe West’s comments. It is ok to try to speed the game up some, but those comments were out of line!

    Will be very interesting what kind of reception he gets from both players and fans the next time he umps one of our games.

  17. blake April 9th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    LGY,

    I sorta agree with you about Theo. To me they would have been much better off moving Vmart to 1B, Youk to 3rd and trying to sign/acquire a catcher. They could have used the money they spent on Cameron and Beltre to sign Holliday. Holliday would have completely changed the dynamic of their lineup and IMO they would have been a better team and had a much more imposing offense.

    They are still a really good team as is but they are relying very heavily on those front 3 starters and 2 of them have injury history.

  18. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:15 am

    The young pitchers all did well throughout the system last night. all winners. A real pity about garcia. he was really pitching well since the start of ST. Maybe it’s just a floating body, a little of the leftover scar tissue or tearing the last of the adhesions loose. It’s a sad waste of talent for a kid that has never been a problem. He’s hardly in the Milton Bradley category.

  19. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Rich,

    I definitely think that the Green Monster will help Beltre, but I do not think it will help nearly enough to make him a very good hitter. He has not been very good at all offensively the past few years. His OPS+ last year was 82. I think the Monster will help him return to being an above average offensive player but still far off from Bay/Holliday. And even with that, his value will likely still be mostly tied to his defense.

    Also, the Red Sox are more easily exposed on the road where the Monster is not there to help.

  20. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Not that I think anyone particular cares to see flooded RI but if anyone would like to come to McCoy to see Scranton play Pawtucket, I would be happy to buy up a lot of tickets (my treat – they’re not that expensive.) Of course you’d have to let me know soon and let me know how many games you’d want to see. Those tickets tend to go fast.

    I’m going but since it is all of 10-15 minutes from my house, it’s easy for me to do it! GB, would you like to see Scranton play Pawtucket?

    If anyone goes for it, I would be happy to act as tour guide. Newport is really nice in the summer. Then there’s also our faux Casino in Lincoln, RI – about 5 minutes from my house, unfortunately. :) RI is a very small state.

  21. blake April 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Personally I could watch Yankees/Sox for hours upon end and never get tired of it. I don’t care how long the games last…its my favorite show.

  22. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    ray (sox fan) April 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am
    I was just reading that the Civil War ended 145 years ago today.

    Just curious, GB what was that day like?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. For a Red Sox fan, you’ve got guts, Ray. “Killer’s” on his way over to do some serious damage to “Yaz”.

    Morning, Ray. Hope all is well in the (sox fan) family.

  23. Andrew April 9th, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Some people’s arms are just not made to withstand throwing a baseball over and over again, seems like that may be the case with Garcia.

  24. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    If anyone wanted to do a Fenway trip, I’d be happy to try to orchestrate that also. The seats for a Yankee game end up being tres cher, so you’d probably be on your own for the price of the tickets, if we could get them that is.

    If any of it sounds good, seriously let me know ASAP so I can get working on it. You really have to plan early when you’re doing any kind of group thing.

    :)

  25. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:21 am

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:13 am
    GB, I just did a whole gushing post on the other thread in response to yours and then realized I read Neimann and was thinking Garcia. Duh duh duh duh duh.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Just blame it on poor lighting in the early morning, Trisha. Any excuse is better than admitting that you messed up.

  26. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Hey Ray

    I don’t think West should ever ump another Sox or Yanks game again; as I saw someone else mention on another board, West did what few others could do and that is unite Sox and Yankee fans, lol.

    Blake, while the games are torture on me, I have absolutely no problem with them, especially since both teams are just really good and extremely patient. It’s just too bad for the umpires if they have to work an extra hour or so.

  27. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Andrew, that’s what it seems like. CB mentioned last night that Garcia already had issues with the scar tissue, so it seems unlikely that that’s what it was last night.

  28. pat April 9th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    MLB teams collective profits rose 4%, revenue rose 1.4% but opening day payrolls dropped 17%.

    MLBPA can’t be happy about that.

  29. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 9th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    blake,

    I agree about Holliday. I was really surprised the Sox did not go after him. I thought he would be their main target after losing out on Tex the year before. He is not only great offensively but a very good defender as well. They have a lot of money coming off the books at the end of this year so they could have had him and Lackey and really only “suffered” the lux tax for one year if they wanted. Also, Holliday is better than anyone hitting the market next year.

    And the logic in Sox Nation is that they can trade for a big bat at midseason. Why would you sacrifice young talent when you had a great player sitting there for you just a few months earlier?

  30. yanksince57 - JESUS H MONTERO! April 9th, 2010 at 10:25 am

    i think both gb and doreen had correct answers on the attendance question, so go back to sleep chad :)

  31. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    There should be more in the way of a doctor’s report later today on Garcia.

  32. blake April 9th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Umpires are as much a part of the problem as the teams or players are. If they want the game to move quicker then they should call more strikes. The strike zone Tuesday was ridiculous, if Lackey and Pettite hadn’t been on top of their games that game would have lasted 5 hours because they had to throw it in a teacup to get a strike call.

  33. blake April 9th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    LGY,

    I agree, I’m still shocked they didn’t make a harder push to sign him. Glad, but shocked.

  34. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    GB :lol:

    Truth – I went to bed at 4 a.m. I DVRd a lot of things and decided to watch television all night. Also I am down with a pretty bad cold. But I’m thinking what kept me bright eyed and bushy tailed all night could have been the half-price Russell Stover chocolate rabbit that I ate at 11:00 p.m. (that and the peanue M & Ms. ) I am totally caffeine free so chocolate tends to do a job on my ability to sleep.

  35. yanksince57 - JESUS H MONTERO! April 9th, 2010 at 10:32 am

    to the countless commentators on the yankees’ of – expect to see the cashman caravan in full force this year :) i predict we’ll see curtis, golson, huffman, weber and others this year! also, when/if melky mesa makes it to the bigs, does he automatically inherit the cabrera fan club?

  36. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Trisha, there’s a new team in the Eastern League that you and your little furry creatures love. The Richmond Flying Squirrels, a San Francisco AA farm team..

  37. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:35 am

    You know what I want to do? Write a nasty open letter to Joe West and send it to every newspaper in the country. I would love to wax poetic about the HORRIFIC job the home plate umpires do with calling balls and strikes and then let that be the centerpiece of why games take so long. Its purpose would be to expose the out-of-control on-going problem there is with calling balls and strikes. Then I could lead into the future of automation behind the plate if they don’t get that crap under control.

    Of course since I am from RI the assumption would be that I am a Sux fan and then the umpires would take it out on them!

    :)

  38. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 10:38 am

    “Trisha, there?s a new team in the Eastern League that you and your little furry creatures love. The Richmond Flying Squirrels, a San Francisco AA farm team..”

    :D

    You KNOW they’ve just become my adopted AA team!!!! And now that Barry Bonds and his huge head are no longer playing for the Gints, I have no trouble rooting for their farm team. That and the fact that it’s an NL team.

    The squirrels (and birds) got rice pie on Easter and absolutely loved it. I wondered if peanut M & Ms might not be so good for them. They’d love the peanuts but I don’t know if chocolate is good for their digestive sytems. I know it’s terrible for dogs, for some reason.

  39. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:42 am

    I was expecting the log to be of Rocket J. Squirrel. Not exactly this. More like Rocky with road (or air) rage.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....;fext=.jsp

  40. GreenBeret7 April 9th, 2010 at 10:43 am

    ***logo*** to be of Rocket J.

  41. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Theo Epstein.

    Mr. I’m too clever by half.

    He said this year was a transition year for the Sox.

    I am not sure exactly what they are transitioning from except from good back to mediocrity.

    But anyway, I think he is saving his bullets for next year when they have a lot of deadwood coming off the books, and the prospects for rebuilding might be better.

    Trouble with that strategy is that it might assume that the Yankees are gonna stand pat next year and allow the Sox to catch up which they won’t.

    Hint : Carl Crawford, Jason Werth, Cliff Lee, Jesus Montero, etc. :)

  42. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    I believe the Yanks will go for Cliff Lee hard to replace Andy in the rotation.

    If a pitcher has great success against the Yankees, chances are the Yankees will sign that pitcher once he hits free agency.

    I’m sure they’ll be in on Crawford or Werth but I wouldn’t be shocked if they passed on both if another team gives them 5 years.

  43. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    flying squirrels?

    sign me up as fan #2

  44. pat April 9th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    “Umpires are as much a part of the problem as the teams or players are.”

    Heard some of the Mike and Mike show on ESPN this morning. As a follow-up to the West story they told they were at a Pirates game directly behind homeplate yesterday and took issue with the HP umpire there.

    They called out Ron Kulpa (sp?) by name and said on a few strike out calls, players grumbled under their breathe about the K on the way back to the dugout and Kulpa followed them talking back and then just staring in like he was challenging someone else to say something.

    Golic said MLB umpires have increasingly tried to become part of the game in ways NFL umpires never would consider.

  45. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    As strong as our team is this year it is likely to be even stronger next year when we are going for the threepeat. ;)

  46. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    I love that one of the final name choices for Richmond was the Hambones.

    Richmond Hambones??

  47. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    I don’t want Cliff Lee and I hope the Yankees don’t give this guy, off of 2 years, a 5 or 6 year contract for huge money. I would much, much rather re-sign Javy for year or two (assuming he has a good year this year).

  48. blake April 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    “Golic said MLB umpires have increasingly tried to become part of the game in ways NFL umpires never would consider”

    which is why its pretty comical that one of them (and one of the worst ones IMO), would complain about it.

    MTU,

    That wonderful 2010-2011 free agent class is looking less and less impressive having already lost Halladay, Mauer, and Beckett. Pujols isn’t going anywhere either. The guys the Sox would target are also going to be on the Yankees radar. I think Holliday would have fit the Sox perfect and I have no idea why they didn’t push harder for him.

  49. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Joe West (a.k.a Porkulus) should just put a sock in it. :)

  50. Erin April 9th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am
    As strong as our team is this year it is likely to be even stronger next year when we are going for the threepeat.

    *****************************
    I like the way you think, MTU :)

  51. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Blake-

    Because O’Henry doesn’t like to pay fair value. ;)

  52. Erin April 9th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Richmond Hambones??

    ************************
    Sounds like a cartoon character. ;)

  53. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Pat, apparently Buster’s blog today mentions some player reactions to West; if anyone is an insider, I would love to read that part of it.

    Umpires are an arrogant breed and I hate how they think they are the stars; they’re not – the players are. I don’t know what can be done about it – MLB seems to have no interest in fixing the problem. I wouldn’t mind if they all got canned.

  54. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Erin,

    “I like the way you think, MTU”

    You are way too sweet to ever be lumped in with me.

    But thanks for the warm fuzzy nevertheless. :)

  55. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:14 am

    Betsy,

    Assuming he is solid this season, it would be 3 years.

    I’m a little hesitant to give him more than 3 years (then, at age 31) also but I think we should prepare for it.

    Assuming he is continues as one of the best pitchers in the game this year, I believe the Yanks will see him as a perfect fit in the rotation should Andy retire.

  56. muffinstump April 9th, 2010 at 11:15 am

    yanksince57,

    what prompted the comment on the cashmoney outfield? are folks already weary of gardner? (sorry, if i’ve missed much of the discussion.)

  57. Rishi April 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Betsy – there wasn’t a lot more than we already know in the blog – will try to copy/paste out the 1-2 sentences – if copy/paste goes crazy, will post article links

  58. stuckey April 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I believe RAB had a piece yesterday on Joe West’s strikezone the other night. If I recall correctly, he indeed didn’t call a lot of low strikes, but apparently call a lot of outside strikes that weren’t in the zone in relatively the same numbers.

    Conclusion. His strikezone wasn’t small, just particular.

    Just sayin’…

  59. Rishi April 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Joltin’ Joe

    Joe West ripped the slow play of the Yankees and Red Sox in this piece by Jeff Roberts, and there were very strong on-background reactions around the sport:

    Folks generally agreed with the guts of what he said, that the Yankees and Red Sox play very slowly. In fact, there are people in the sport who treat the Yankees-Red Sox games along the lines of how folks watched the NBA in the ’70s: They’ll wait to watch until the last couple of innings, because they find the pace of the games excruciating.

    Folks generally thought that West was way out of line to express his feelings out loud — and it figures that he will face some sort of reprimand from Major League Baseball. The Powers That Be don’t want umpires ripping players publicly, in the same way that they don’t want managers and players ripping umpires publicly. “It’s something that should be kept in-house,” said one person in baseball.

    Got a number of e-mails from players and officials who saw great irony in the fact that West complained about pace of play, because he is perceived to have one of the tightest strike zones in the majors. “If he wants to help the pace of play, then he should call more [expletive] strikes,” said one member of a front office.

    Mariano Rivera ripped West, in an interview with George King. Ron Gardenhire agrees that the games are too slow, writes Kelsie Smith. The Rays don’t care if the Yankees play slowly, writes Joe Henderson.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=5069782

  60. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    The umpires stink at their jobs as it is.

    The # of missed calls has gone up.

    Time for MLB to start firing.

  61. blake April 9th, 2010 at 11:17 am

    MTU, they could have had Holliday for what they are paying Beltre/Cameron. They are a good team this year but I think they could have better used their resources this winter. Holliday in LF and hitting 4th and a descent catcher would have made them tough with that staff.

  62. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    I prefer sugar gliders to plain squirrels.

    The added element of flight makes them more uplifting to watch. :)

  63. Erin April 9th, 2010 at 11:18 am

    ?If he wants to help the pace of play, then he should call more [expletive] strikes,? said one member of a front office.

    *******************************
    :lol:

  64. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Rishi,

    interesting thoughts…

    I imagine there is some bias around the sports world.

    Anybody who is not a Yanks or Sox fan, probably HATES them.

    That said, it’s clear the consensus is that West was out of line with the route he took to express his feelings… and as you pointed out, perhaps hypocritical as well.

  65. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    “I prefer sugar gliders to plain squirrels. ”

    ———–

    oh, no doubt. I’m not sure there is a greater animal out there than the sugar glider.

  66. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Blake-

    “MTU, they could have had Holliday for what they are paying Beltre/Cameron. They are a good team this year but I think they could have better used their resources this winter. Holliday in LF and hitting 4th and a descent catcher would have made them tough with that staff.”

    I sure agree with you about MH and a good catcher.

    MH would have required a long-term outlay though. O’Henry likes to lowball people and treat them like another asset in one of his sleazy hedge funds. Just looking at the guy creeps me out.

    Glad they didn’t do it. :)

  67. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    BD, that’s true, but I still hope the Yankees don’t do it; there’s no reason to, especially if they are so concerned with budget. Do they really need to tie their rotation up with these huge contracts?

    Rishi, thanks! Well, I have zero respect for Ron Gardenhire, who I presume is just ticked off that he keeps losing to the Yankees. Too bad if he can’t handle out patient the Yanks and Sox are. If those folks want to bash the Yanks and Sox for being very good teams, then too bad. I’m still so angry about this because the Yanks and Sox do not deserve to be criticized for knowing how to play the game. It also ticks me off that no one seems to care that this jerk is going to be umping Sox/Yankee (or any games in which the teams are involved, not necessarily against each other) games and probably blowing calls on purpose just so the game will end.

  68. stuckey April 9th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    While I agree that last year’s post-season had too many glaring bad moments, just for sake of discussion, can anyone in their lifetime, remember a year/season or era where the prevailing perception was umpiring was very good and quality on the rise?

    Isn’t “the umpiring is getting worse” pretty much a perpetual perception? Or am I misremembering pro-umpire sentiment?

    Hell, is this any less true or not in ANY sport?

  69. blake April 9th, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Freddie Couples has the prettiest golf swing I’ve ever seen, hope he hangs in there this weekend.

  70. Rishi April 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:19 am
    Rishi,

    interesting thoughts?

    I imagine there is some bias around the sports world.

    Anybody who is not a Yanks or Sox fan, probably HATES them.

    That said, it?s clear the consensus is that West was out of line with the route he took to express his feelings? and as you pointed out, perhaps hypocritical as well.
    =========================

    Not my thoughts – just sharing info for Betsy – not that I disagree…but I can’t take credit for writing it

  71. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am

    how patient, not out patient………

  72. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Blake-

    “Freddie Couples has the prettiest golf swing I’ve ever seen, hope he hangs in there this weekend.”

    Now there’s a name pregnant with comic potential. :)

  73. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Blake, Freddie is my favorite golfer – well, I adore Bobby Jones, but I’ve had a crush on Freddie since 1992, lol. One day I flipped on the tv, saw Freddie and just fell for the guy. He’s 50 (wow, I can’t believe that) and still hits the ball like he’s 20. I can’t reasonably expect him to keep this up, though he was apparently a hot pick by many people. Is there anyone who doesn’t love Freddie?

  74. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 9th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Anybody read Mariano’s response to Joe West’s criticism?

    When Rivera is responding in frustration you know that someone was out of line…he’s usually the softly spoken one.

    I’m not saying that West doesn’t have a point, but to single out the Red Sox and Yankees and badmouth them both to the media is what is really pathetic. I hope MLB puts a hurtin on him.

  75. blake April 9th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Betsy, Couples has been playing really well lately and he still hits the ball long enough to play this course when they move the tees back. I’m not sure Watson does :(, but I think Couples can win this thing.

  76. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Prince-

    “I hope MLB puts a hurtin on him.”

    Just look at him. Does he look like he needs a hurtin’ put on him.

    I think he’s done a pretty good job of doing that to himself. :)

  77. Joe April 9th, 2010 at 11:28 am

    nick johnson should have swung at the inside pitch and ball instead of walking the other night to move the game along for the benefit of joe west, who is so overweight his knees must hurt him bigtime standing out there during long yanks sox games.

  78. Bronx Jeers April 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    You know no one is ever going to say the Javy Vasquez is a HOF type pitcher but when it comes to strikeouts, he’s in an elite class.

    He’s 47th on the all time list (2,253) and 2nd behind Jamie Moyer (2,342) on the active list. And of course Moyer is 14 years older than Javy.

    If Javy wanted to, he could easily attain 3,000.

    There’s only 16 pitchers that have achieved that and almost all of them HOFers. Blyleven (3,701) is the real standout as he’s 5th all time and is experiencing a lot of difficulty getting the 75%. I think Schilling (3,116) may have trouble as well. The rest are either already in or are apparent shoo-ins like The Unit, Maddux, Pedro, Glavine & Smoltz. Obviously, Clemens chance is in jeopardy.

    Again, not saying Javy is a HOF type. But strikeout-wise, he’s on their level.

  79. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Upstate Kate-

    If you’re out there.

    Safe flight. :)

  80. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 9th, 2010 at 11:30 am

    MTU,

    Point taken :)

    I’m just surprised he said what he said, I guess. He’s a vet umpire, very well respected, and should have known better than to have taken the issue to the media in the way he did.

    And I just really detest the fact that NY and BOS is getting singled out.

    Sometimes baseball is a slow paced game, yet people still go to games, right? Attendance numbers are thriving, right? So what’s the problem?!

    Does Joe West miss his Snickers bars so much that having to ump for another 45 minutes on occasion jeopardizes his ever bloating pig face? Hmmmm….

  81. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Rishi,

    I knew that – should have written “interesting post”

    If you take extra innings out of the equation, I’m curious what the average game length is between the Yanks and Sox over the past several seasons.

    Is it really that much over 3 hrs?

    As long as you know what you’er getting into beforehand, 2.5-3.5 games, what’s the big deal?

    Are fans not buying tickets to Sox/Yanks or not watching on TV?

    Wait, they are??? Then who cares.

    MLB does everything they can to get these games in primetime, so whatever the Yanks/Sox are doing must be working.

  82. Patrick from CT April 9th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    Here’s to hoping Brett Gardner is so good this year that the Yankees won’t need another LF next year. I’m all for Crawford next year if BG doesn’t make it, but he will be down the list of FA signings needed to be done by the Yankees, probably 4th or 5th behind Jeter, Mo, a SP, maybe a 2nd SP…

  83. SAS April 9th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    If Freddie Couples could win the whole thing, I would be ecstatic. Tom Watson is my second choice

  84. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Bronx jeers,

    great post.

    I knew Javy was an elite strikeout and inning guy now, but put in that context it’s really interesting.

  85. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    does anyone have the Mariano quotes?

  86. Phil Columbus April 9th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Does MLB allow Joe West do Yankee or Red Sox games in the future? I don’t see how they can when he has shown a negative bias towards them in the press. Fred Couples does have a great swing and I can see him hanging in there. Watson and Couples in the final pair on Sunday with Phil and Tiger in the pair in front of them. Would have to DVR the yankee game to watch that.

  87. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 9th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Patrick,

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Yankees re-sign Vasquez if he does well this season. He’s sounded as if he doesn’t plan on pitching all that much longer and if we can get him on a short contract, say 2 or 3 years, then its a good grab. Then you have CC, AJ, Phil (if he pans out), and Javy thru 2013 and maybe Pettitte for one more.

    But I agree, Crawford doesn’t represent the greatest need. But let’s worry about 2010, ya? :)

  88. stuckey April 9th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    “If you take extra innings out of the equation, I’m curious what the average game length is between the Yanks and Sox over the past several seasons.

    Is it really that much over 3 hrs?”

    Yes.

    From RAB.

    “According to figures from last year, an average major league game lasts around 2:52 while the Yankees play games that average 3:08 and the Sox 3:04. When the two teams play each other, they averaged nine innings in 3:30 last year, a good forty minutes slower than league average. Pick up the pace, indeed.”

    There you go.

  89. CR9 (MLB = Home of the Scumpires) April 9th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    If Tiger doesn’t win, Im hoping Freddie or Watson win as well.

    Maybe Mickelson, he’s not a Sox fan, and he loves the state of NY!

  90. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Prince-

    This kind of thing makes for good press and that’s about all.

    But he deserves to be riduculed for over stepping his authority.

    Kind of reminds me of that other joker who made up his own “in the neighborhood” rule on Jeter.

    These guys can’t be expected to be perfect but when they screw up in such obvious ways it wouldn’t hurt to either apologize or show some humility. :)

  91. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 9th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    BD,

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....xnxSeUU82N

  92. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 9th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Blake, that would be unbelievable. Freddie is so popular at Augusta and Jim Nantz would probably have a hard time keeping his emotions in check. I adore Tom Watson as well.

  93. Judge Smails April 9th, 2010 at 11:36 am

    “If he has places to go, let him do something else. What does he want us (the players) to do, swing at balls? … We don’t want to play four-hour games, but that’s what it takes. We respect and love the fans and do what we have to do, and that’s play our game.”

    That’s the main Rivera quote.

  94. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Patrick in CT,

    Absolutely.

    I really like Crawford but I’m not sure he’s an elite OF.

    The problem is, the Yanks just can’t be too sure of what they have in the minors.

    In addition, there really aren’t very many great free agent options in 2012:

    - Carlos Beltran
    - Raul Ibanez
    - Nate McClouth
    - JD Drew :)
    - Grady Sizemore (has a team option though)

    So the ultimate decision is where the Yanks will get these OF – Swisher may be gone by then as well.

    If they feel Crawford or Werth are the best options, it’s probably worth it to spend in 2011 than wait til 2012 when there won’t be anything better.

    Of course, I’d love to see GGBG make it a tougher decision :)

  95. Rishi April 9th, 2010 at 11:38 am

    I guess I just don’t understand why game duration is such a big deal. They are playing a game with no time limits…that’s how it was designed.

    What would be the purpose of changing the “rhythm” of the game?

    Who thinks they are going too long? Why do they think that?

    If we were concerned with “kids”/people having to stay up too late to watch, why do post season games start so late?

    If you are paying (the alledged crazy high prices) to see a game, don’t you want more to watch? No one is preventing you from leaving the Stadium or turning your TV off?

    I mean – I guess you could say Yankees and Red Sox players deserve to get paid more since they actually “work” longer hours :)

    I guess that’s my issue – I don’t really understand why this is an issue?

    I watch when I can, follow online/on my iPhone when I can’t…it is entertainment, people – are we rallying because movies are either tooo long (3 hours plus) or ridiculously short for the $10 you have to pay to get in there!

  96. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    * – Sizmore’s option would cost Cleveland an extra $8M for 2012 so assuming he’s worth signing for the Yanks, I imagine that means that Cleveland would pick the option up keeping him off the market until 2013.

  97. Erin April 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    New Post: The art of winning

  98. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes April 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    MTU,

    Right…an apology would be wise I think, but who knows if he’ll give one.

    Again, its not like he doesn’t have a point, but address the issue professionally.

    Oh well, I’m over it. Looking forward to the game tonight, however long it happens to go.

  99. MTU(aka GBURL) April 9th, 2010 at 11:39 am

    According to SJ the Yankees are hotter on CC than a two-peckered Billy goat is to find a mate. :)

  100. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:40 am

    I guess that’s my issue – I don’t really understand why this is an issue? ”

    —————–

    exactly.

    the game is certainly not suffering. Yanks/Sox games are primetime events with good ratings and premium ticket sales/prices.

    what is the problem?

  101. Phil Columbus April 9th, 2010 at 11:42 am

    BD
    I can see Cleveland trading Sizemore before he reaches FA or that option year. Just like they did with Lee, CC and Victor.

  102. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:44 am

    “According to SJ the Yankees are hotter on CC than a two-peckered Billy goat is to find a mate.:

    ——————

    we’ll see.

    I feel like Granderson filled that need.

    Crawford is a very good player, but not elite. He has poor OBP so he’s not an ideal leadoff hitter.

    Add to that the fact that he struggles a bit against lefthanded pitching and I’m not sure he’s the best fit.

    I’d be happy if they got him, for sure, but maybe Werth is a guy who would fit in better? Or someone else?

    Too many variables at this point… but we’ll see

  103. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 5 April 9th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Phil,

    absolutely.

    nobody on Cleveland is ever safe.

    But whoever trades for him would almost certainly extend his contract or pick up that 2012 option, meaning he’s not a free agent until 2013 or beyond.

  104. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 9th, 2010 at 11:45 am

    new thread :arrow:
    The Art of Winning

  105. 86w183 April 9th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    West should be fired, plain and simple. Umpires cannot publicly call out teams or players. It’s completely inappropriate and unprofessional.

    Baseball should set a limit on mound meetings no matter who is involved. I was screaming at Jorge and CC in that game last year — what was it eight meetings in an inning?

    Three games into the season and we’re arguing about next year’s FA class? Seriously?

    Let’s see how everyone does this year… at least wait ten games!

  106. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 9th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    “‘If he wants to help the pace of play, then he should call more [expletive] strikes,? said one member of a front office.’”

    My feelings precisely!

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