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Postgame notes: Burnett limits the damage

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Apr 11, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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Pick your inning for A.J. Burnett. Was the first inning the key, when he kept a rocky start from becoming a terrible start? Or was the sixth inning the key, when he stranded the bases loaded after a bizarre infield single off the Tropicana Field catwalk?

After two singles, two stolen bases, a sacrifice bunt and a walk in the first inning, pitching coach Dave Eiland went to the mound with a simple message.

“He’s got good stuff,” Eiland said. “We’re still in the game. Continue to attack. Don’t pick. Take charge.”

Burnett said he didn’t think his stuff was very good today, but Eiland and Jorge Posada told him otherwise and he trusted them. When Burnett attacked with his fastball, he got out of trouble. That included the sixth inning when Evan Longoria singled off the catwalk and Carlos Pena walked to load the bases. It was a two-run game at the time, and Burnett got B.J. Upton to pop up to end the threat.

“He didn’t turn (the first) into a huge inning, that gave us a chance to come back,” Joe Girardi said. “He made his pitches when he had to in that (sixth inning) situation. The interesting thing is, when Longoria hits that ball, you think you’re out of the inning. And then you’ve got to turn it back on again.”

Here’s Burnett talking about his outing, and talking a little bit about getting home for Tuesday’s ring ceremony.

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And here’s Girardi talking about the game and the road trip as a whole.

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• When Longoria’s ball hit the catwalk, Girardi argued that it hit in foul territory and should be ruled foul. The stadium ground rules say that particular catwalk is in play, making Longoria’s ball live. “It’s not a baseball stadium,” Jorge Posada said. “You can’t have balls going all over the place. It’s sad.”

• Posada said he remembered five changeups from Burnett, and he expects even more as Burnett continues to get used to the pitch. “It’s a swing-and-miss pitch, it really is,” Posada said.

• Someone asked Burnett whether he wears his Marlins World Series ring. “No,” he said. Will he wear his Yankees ring? “Absolutely.”

• A loss today would have meant a split of the opening road trip. Instead, the Yankees took four of six against their top competition in the division. “You try to win every series,” Girardi said “That’s our goal going in. I don’t think you can be satisfied being even. Some people might say you hung in on a tough road trip, but our goal was to win both series.”

• Joba Chamberlain had a bit of a rocky inning. I believe the scoreboard here had him at 93 mph — that’s the fastest I noticed, anyway — and he allowed a run on two hits and a walk. Girardi said some of that can be attributed to Chamberlain haven’t not pitched in a while.

• “They outplayed us once again,” Rays manager Joe Maddon said.

• Brett Gardner and Curtis Granderson are tied for the league lead with three stolen bases apiece.

• Tomorrow’s an off day, with the Yankees working out at the Stadium in the afternoon.

Those are Associated Press photos. The first is obviously Burnett. The smaller photo is Girardi talking to crew chief Wally Bell after the Longoria single.

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123 Responses to “Postgame notes: Burnett limits the damage”

  1. Jim The VT Yankeefan April 11th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Joe Morgan is showing his complete stupidity on Baseball Tonight. Jeez that guy is a joke.

  2. Brad Toughy April 11th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    The Rays broadcast had Joba up to 95 with the fastball.

  3. Trevor April 11th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    “It’s not a baseball stadium,” Jorge Posada

    AMEN!

  4. Brad Toughy April 11th, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Every hit against a lefty builds confidence for Granderson, even if the lefty is Choate two days in a row.

  5. m April 11th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    Thanks, Chad. I was amazed at AJ’s efficiency after the first inning. Is Tampa a relatively impatient team?

    AJ was right. He didn’t have his “stuff” today, but he righted the ship early on. If he fields that ball that whizzed past him, the first inning would’ve been a different story, too.

    Very, very happy that we took both series. We were also close (haha) to sweeping the Sox.

  6. Erin April 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    I was watching the game on TBS, and they had Joba at 95 at one point.

  7. Phil the Thrill April 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Granderson’s off to a terrific start.

  8. Phil the Thrill April 11th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    Also, if AJ has finally learned to calm down and limit, he’s going to have a monster season.

  9. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    With the start that Cano has had and the difference in his drive and committment to changing his approach, Pedroia knows that his status as “the league’s best 2nd baseman” is hanging in the balance. Pedroia’s size and swing will not age well, I don’t think.

  10. gyhu April 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Joba.

    What is the backup plan? I certainly hope Mark Meloncam (that is, Melancon) is doing well at AAA.

  11. Erin April 11th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
    With the start that Cano has had and the difference in his drive and committment to changing his approach, Pedroia knows that his status as “the league’s best 2nd baseman”

    *********************
    GB, to me, Cano has always been “the league’s best 2nd baseman” :)

  12. m April 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Pedroia’s size won’t age well?

    Don’t you get taller as you get older?

  13. Rich in NJ April 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Gardner and Granderson really make the bottom of the order fun to watch.

    No one has their temperature taken more often than Joba, and it’s kind of annoying. Just let him pitch and revisit the issue in a couple of months.

  14. Rich in NJ April 11th, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    “Don’t you get taller as you get older?”

    Older people tend to shrink. :P

  15. Erin April 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    m April 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    Pedroia’s size won’t age well?

    Don’t you get taller as you get older?

    *************************
    :lol:

  16. Noreaster April 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    GB7, Look at Pedroia’s home/away splits. Out of Fenway he is a .278 hitter with little power. Now that Cano has moved up in the lineup, I would expect people will stop compairing them after this season. The only thing that has kept the comparison close is Cano’s horrid start to the 08 season.

  17. FsuNole April 11th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Just leaving st pete ..stadium had Joba at 94 at one point. 4-2 is as good as I hoped after these 6 games. Veteran team..on the road..notorious for starting slow..I’m pleased!

  18. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    For those interested, David Phelps was exceptional for Trenton today in his first AA start.
    Here’s the Trenton box. Outstanding Notre Damer. He’s another fast mover. He split between Charleston and Tampa last year.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_treaax_1

  19. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) April 11th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    YES had Joba at 95 at least 3-4 times today.

  20. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Pedroia’s size with that swing is what won’t age well. Max swing on everything up. He won’t be able to get to those pitches as he gets a little older.

  21. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) April 11th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Before the season as I looked at the Yankee schedule, I was hoping for a split in the first six games on the road. So far I’m very happy the way the season has started in 2010.

  22. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Big rally brewing in Charleston, down 6-4 in the bottom of the 9th. Runners on first and third with Higashioka batting.

  23. jd April 11th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    awesome start to the season!! Love this team.

  24. Phil the Thrill April 11th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Jose A. Ramirez had good K #’s, but bad D behind him and hit two batters. He’ll be better as the season goes on and he could end up in Tampa for part of it. He was getting swings and misses on fastballs and changeups all day.

  25. SJ44 April 11th, 2010 at 7:53 pm

    Be interesting if the Anti-Granderson brigade on here have the guts to show up.

    I actually got ripped by one of these “geniuses” for calling him one of the best guys on the team.

    The guy is a great player.

  26. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Bases are now loaded in Charleston. Paredes now batting. Paredes gets hit first hit of the year to score one run (6-5) with Luke Murton, the team’s big bopper is batting. he’s 2-4 today.

  27. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    Murton smashes a shot to third, but the run scores when Murton beats the rap on the try for a DP. Winning runner, Kyle Higashioka was thrown out at home

  28. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Charleston has scored 5 runs in the last 2 innings.

  29. pat April 11th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    m

    Was out all day (opening day of little league) but saw your response to what I said about Jackson earlier today.

    This is what I was referring to about him kicking himself in the butt:

    “I started to train a lot harder because I knew that if I got this opportunity, I was going to take advantage of it,” Jackson said. “I started getting more serious about getting up early and working out. I started eating a lot of better foods to have energy throughout the day. I cut out a lot of fast food. I was in the batting cage a lot more.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2.....-his-dream

  30. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 11th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    4-hour rain delay in SF but the Gigantes and Melky Bravos are getting ready to play.

    I wonder how many Cha Cha Bowls they sold.

  31. William Buckner April 11th, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    “Be interesting if the Anti-Granderson brigade on here have the guts to show up. ”

    As did I for posting I believed he and Johnson will end up being better then retaining Damon and Matsui.

    Even with Matsui’s hot start, i still believe that will be the case.

  32. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) April 11th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Granderson has played well especially playing CF with a pretty good throwing arm.

  33. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Bottom of the 10th inning coming up. still 6-6 in Charleston.

    3 up, 3 down. Top of the 11th inning.

  34. Bronx Jeers April 11th, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Pat M was way off base regarding how Yankees fans will feel about Granderson.

    The love affair has started far earlier than he predicted. :wink:

  35. Nick in SF in Larkspur April 11th, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    Lincecum K’s Melky to start the game after the 4+ hour rain delay. And then the rain starts again.

    This is the Braves’ only visit to San Francisco this year.

  36. blake April 11th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    SJ,
    If they do show up I’m not sure what they would say considering how outstanding Granderson has been thus far. Even their silver bullet of “he can’t hit lefties” is out of play…he’s hitting .300 off of them.

  37. murphydog April 11th, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    I could grow to really love Granderson on this team. Looks like he is somebody who is going to benefit from a change in uniform, being the best OF defender on a team that doesn’t absolutely need his bat to win. A couple of HRs already and he hasn’t even been “home” yet? Nice. His defense is really something to marvel at, he’s a top flight MLB defender even if he isn’t Gold Glove CF – yet. And he’s stealing bases. Granted, it’s early and it’s a small sample, but if he keeps it up, it’ll be “Johnny Who” by June.

    Cano seems to be a different player. Again it’s too early to know anything for sure, but he just looks more confident and composed at the plate. His defense is still solid. If he puts up numbers to go with his #5 spot in the lineup, he’s going to finally break through to everybody’s “Best” list and not just Best at 2d base.

    Swisher looks like a new man too. Although he got suckered more than a few times by the changeup and off speed stuff today, that HR was a laser. If he gets that average up even a little, look out.

    A-Rod looks like he’s toying with the opposition’s pitchers, obviously not going to hit 1.000% but seeming to get hits when needed. Posada is showing some power early and Teix is going to heat up soon. Jeter is going to be Jeter again this year. Nick Johnson is everything advertised so far and Gardner just needs a little time to find himself I think. He’s got to be absolutely in awe of what’s around him in the lineup and has to just be himself and do what he can instead of trying to match the others. I think it will come. Cervelli continues to outperform his rep in the minors. Maybe it’s time to accept his MLB performance as more than just a fluke. With Ace and Mitre in the Pen along with D-Rob, Park, Joba and Marte, and all of that depth at AA and AAA and of course Mo to round out the picture, is it too soon to say this team reminds me of 1998?

  38. Joe from Long Island April 11th, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    1. There was an article in the Times today about radar guns. According to the story, scouts sitting in the same section, each with their own gun, will record speeds that can vary by 2-3 mph. The technology has come a long way since Bob Feller threw vs. a guy on a motocycle, but it’s still imprecise.

    2. Re: the Aroldis Chapman discussion on the last thread (I was having dinner with my wife). Why did the Yankees not make an offer? That’s something we may not learn for a very long time (someone’s memoirs?). However, I do recall that they were hot after him for a while. And then, something changed. They had him in a luxury box for one of the World Series games (I think no. 1 or 2), and, after that, they kept him at arm’s length. I don’t know if he stole the silverware, or what, but something happened and the Yankees were turned off. That’s a question I would love to ask Cash.

  39. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    Top of the 11th, 3 up, 3 down. Bullpen has set down 16 straight batters after Tatis gave up the 3 runs in the 6th.

    Landoni smokes a double to center with one out.

    Ray Kruml is batting. He was 2-5. He grounds out. 2 outs.

    Castro batting. walks.

    Paredes flies out to center.

    Even for minor league announcers these guys for Charleston are no threats to take Ken Harrelson’s job.

  40. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    There is still time for them to start trashing Granderson. Wait until he goes 0-5 and leaves 5 runners on and makes an error to cost a game.

  41. carlo April 11th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    This will likely fall on deaf ears here, but I think Chad correctly identified a very important aspect of that mound conversation and something I think will be monumentally important in the transition from very good but erratic pitcher to elite pitcher for AJ Burnett. Not thinking u have good stuff, but trusting those around you that your stuff is good enough to attack with is huge for him.

  42. Benny Blanco April 11th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Pettite vs Santana

    Vazquez vs Kazmir

    Huges Vs Weaver

    I’m definitely looking forward to javy pitching much better on his second start.

  43. m April 11th, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    It could be that Cash liked a more known quantity. It could end up being a mistake, but not one that could hurt us.

  44. Nick in SF April 11th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    m, what better known quantity?

  45. Phil the Thrill April 11th, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Rondon K’s 4 in the 12th. Here come the Dogs!

  46. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Francisco Rondon has 2 innings with 5 strikeouts. Runner reached on a strike 3 passed ball.
    Rondon strikes out 4 in the inning.

    No minor league team should have a coach named Stubby Clapp. The players are too young to make fun of their elders.

    Bottom of the 12th inning coming up.

  47. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Melky Cabrera strikes out in his 1st at bat.

  48. m April 11th, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    A more known quantity, not better known. ;)

    I just meant that they might not have been interested in paying such a high price for a project who was raw.

    Chapman started at AA, no? He could hit the majors this year even that wasn’t his projection. Then it would seem that the scouting reports were wrong.

    A better known quantity like you asked might include the likes of Cliff Lee. Someone who’s a proven quantity.

  49. Nick in SF April 11th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    I see.

  50. Rishi April 11th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    feels right to have Pettite pitching on the day they get their rings

  51. Phil the Thrill April 11th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Grote delivers the gamewinning hit!

  52. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Murton grounds out to lead off the bottom of the 12th.

    Rob Lyerly is batting. base hit. He had struck out four times today.

    Taylor Grote batting. Double to score the winning run.

    “They’ll be doing the Charleston ALL NIGHT LONG”. This guy is really bad.

  53. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Brian McCann is fast moving up the list of best catchers in baseball, offensively and defensively. He’s probably #2 right now.

  54. pistol pete April 11th, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Anyone who thinks Melky is better than Granderson doesn’t know much about baseball. While Melky hits leftys better and has a better arm Granderson is a higher level player with significantly more power, speed, and crushes right handed pitching. I don’t think anyone could argue with that move but Johnson vs Matsui at dh is very suspect considering their contracts are similiar in size and length and while Johnson will take his walks we gave up a lot of power there, Matsui is just a better hitter. Additionally we lost ground in leftfield but picked up a solid no 4 starter with Vasquez. If left field doesn’t produce Cashman will fix it later.

  55. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    AJ has very mixed feelings when it comes to his Marlins ring. When he signed and was interviewed at the press conference, he joked about how he’d give it to his father. It’s always been clear that the never really felt part of that team and that the WS was bittersweet for him because he couldn’t contribute.

    He said last week (or two weeks ago) that he was psyched for the ring ceremony, mostly because of the fans. He seemed so sad when he realized that he might be pitching and wouldn’t be able to participate.

    I think it’s wonderful that he pitched so well and only struck out 1; he also only walked 3, I believe. AJ is sound as a dollar; I really believe he’s turned the corner health wise.

  56. m April 11th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    A lot of us wanted/want Hideki. But he aint coming back, except in a Halos uni.

    It could be argued that Granderson as your #2 with Hideki as the #5/6 would be better than this lineup. But Hideki aint coming back except in a Halos uni.

  57. m April 11th, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    And defensively, I think we’re better. Granderson is a HUGE upgrade over Damon.

  58. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    So Buchholz pitched ok today? Eh, I was hoping he’d get creamed, but ok.

    Not to harp on Chapman, but I had no problems passing on him. I don’t think the Yanks profiled him as a reliever; I think it was clear they liked him very much but thought he was raw. Per Mark Newman, the Yanks would have started him at A or AA and that’s not what Chapman was looking for. OH well – he’s on a team I don’t care about and he’s in the NL.

    Grandy is already a favorite; I adore him. It’s ridiculous that he was taking so many hits. I have said this over and over, but with hard work, you can do anything. He just has to be “ok” against lefties, but for pete’s sake, can every AB against lefties not be a referendum on his career?

  59. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Ha , So AJ DID use his change..good!

  60. Yanks 64 April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    m,

    I would agree with that, re: Matsui/Granderson.

  61. The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    This from the best in game analysis of the yankees I have read. This was the guy I was telling you about a month ago and I found it. It is http://www.stevewigdor.blogspot.com

    4-2 after two road series’ against power house teams in the AL; that is a very encouraging start!

    On Saturday CC was very good. He threw a lot of pitches, but I think his pitch count was high because TB did a good job of not swinging at some close pitches. CC was nibbling a little as well. Either way, a very good game all around as the offense came to play also.

    In the series deciding game on Sunday, there was a lot to talk about (at least in my view).

    Jeter has been first pitch swinging almost every time. He will need to mix it up and make an adjustment because he has been making fast outs and this is against the philosophy of what the Yankees do well.

    While I am on Jeter a little bit, the first inning was a classing example of one of the weaknesses Jeter has in the field and that is tagging runners out. the Yanks correctly pitched out on BJ Upton and the throw from Posada was release quickly, but a little on the SS side of the bag where Jeter took a long time to swing the tag around and tagged BJ on the shin rather than the foot. Replays showed it was a bang bang play, but a quicker and better tag would have given us the out call without question. This cost us an extra run and obviously more work for Burnett. AJ did settle down and pitch very well the rest of the way.

    I am tired of every ball hit to the OF being “driven” according to Michael Kay. Mike, a little tip, when the ball is off the end of the bat or off the handle it is most certainly not “driven.”

    4th inning with the Yanks trailing 2-1, ARod led off with a double. Cano came up and he has shown better plan on how to handle early swings in the count. However, he did a poor job of trying to pull the ball as he flew out to LF on a pitch he should have been turning on. Just for clarity, I don’t want many of the Yankees hitters giving themselves up just to move runners along, but it is OK to look for a pitch to pull and Cano missed an opportunity. After that Posada had a great AB to work a walk. He was really locked in laying off close pitches and working the walk. Unfortunately, Granderson and Swisher didn’t get it done.

    Nick Johnson has lined out about 4 times; his hits will come.

    Shields was pitching well for TB, but most of the Yankees were working the pitch count very well on Shields and he entered the 6th inning at almost 100 pitches. After he got ARod out I was surprised that Choate didn’t come in to face Cano. After Cano doubled though, I would not have brought in Choate (a true lefty specialist) to face the switch hitting Posada. Fortunately for us Posada took advantage of the mismatch and homered. Not sure what their coach (Maddon) was thinking? Either way, the Yanks plan of wearing down the starting pitcher and then creaming the bullpen worked great today.

    Granderson made a bunch of nice plays in the field. the best was coming in on a line drive and doubling off Burrell at first base. BTW, him going in a little hard after Texiera was not that big a deal. Not nearly as big a deal as the stupid comments made by Joe West. I wonder what fine Girardi would have if he said that West’s crew was embarrassing and pathetic?

    BTW, Granderson also made a good baserunning play by getting to 3rd which allowed him to score on a wild pitch with 2 outs.

    Man, what a silly dome where an out turns into a hit. This is a professional game for crying out loud. Can you imagine if that was a playoff game?

    After that crazy play it was 1st and 2nd with 2 outs and Burnett fell behind Pena 3-0. Burnett then walked Pena not giving in, BUT moving the tying run to 2nd base and the go ahead run to 1st base. This was the most interesting strategic part of the game to me for a variety of reasons. First, do you go after Pena or do you really put at risk a big inning? At the time, I was saying to pitch carefully with a weaker hitter in Upton on deck, but man it is risky. Then, after the walk I think many people would have said that Burnett should have come out of the game as it looked like he was frazzled after the pop up. This I did not believe and fortunately neither did Girardi as Burnett got Upton out and the end of the key threat in the game. I really believe there were a lot of people who would have Monday morning QB’d that one and said “it was obvious Burnett was flustered and he should have come out.” Good job by Girardi and Burnett to get the job done.

    Cano stroked a ball down the LF line very well in the 7th inning, but Crawford made an excellent running catch. Gardner, Ellsbury and Crawford are probably the only LF’rs who could have made that catch as it took some raw speed.

    Job’s velocity was back down to 93 as he seemed to be throwing a little more with his arm than his body to me. Posada worked in his curve twice and it was outstanding at both times.

    The only little concern I have is that Rivera looked very weak again to me. Very little movement and his velocity was 89-91. It is expected to see a slow down from him, but after last years amazing year, I want to hope he can give us another really good year. So far, he has not looked to me.

    Overall, 4-2 is a very good start!

  62. Jim April 11th, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    Wallace Matthews

    The Yankees faced a difficult road trip to start the season, and they handled it beautifully.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5076253

  63. pat April 11th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    Is comparing last years players to this years players going to be the new 5th starter debate?

  64. Giuseppe Franco April 11th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    We all wanted Matsui back but we don’t get a vote on personnel changes. Cashman decided to go in another direction.

    Move on, already.

    This is a pretty damn good team right now. Sit back and relax and watch this team play.

    All the b**ching may cause you to miss something.

  65. Carl April 11th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    did anyone just see prince fielder lol

  66. BX 44 April 11th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    On the ring ceremony:

    “It’s kind of bittersweet,” Angels starter Jered Weaver said. “It feels like they’re rubbing it in our face but we know it’s just the way it (the schedule) worked out, the timing of it.

    “I’m going to try not to watch too much. At the same time, it’s kind of good for us to kind of kick us in the (backs) and say, ‘Hey, that’s what we want to be doing.’ So, I guess I’ll be looking – but I’ll be watching from afar, how’s that?”

    Angels outfielder Torii Hunter said he won’t be shy about asking to inspect Matsui’s ring once he gets it.

    “I’ll check it out. I check out everybody’s,” he said. “I want one of those. I want that popsicle. I’ve checked out everybody’s the past 12, 13 years.”

    Angels manager Mike Scioscia said his team will probably be curious to see what the Yankees’ ring (and ceremony) look like and used the same word as Saunders to describe the feelings that will be stirred. But he said seeing the fruits of a championship up close won’t provide any added motivation.

    “I guess we’re a little jealous,” he said. “Yeah, we want to take a little look. We want to see what it looks like. It’s a little bittersweet because they beat us.

    “I don’t know that these guys have to see it to be motivated to do it. There are a lot of things that happen between now and a ring ceremony. You have to focus on the journey.”

    And Matsui….

    Beyond the championship ring, Matsui is looking forward to the series in New York for another reason – to sleep in his own bed. The seven-season Yankee still owns a home in Manhattan.

    But he does not expect the return to New York this week to be an especially emotional one.

    “Really, I’m just going back there as a member of the Angels to play a series against the Yankees,” Matsui said. “Having said that, I am looking forward to staying in my house and breathing the New York air.”

    http://www.ocregister.com/spor.....-ring.html

  67. pat April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Someone give Prince a valium.

  68. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Pat, lol – not for me it isn’t, but for some it will be.

    I just got home from dinner with Fran and we had a great time; she’s a wonderful person and we talked about everything Yankees. We thought maybe that it would be a good idea to have a blog outing at a Yankee game this summer if people are “game”.

  69. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Some people make it seem like Cashman chose to sign Johnson over Matsui. That’s not how it happened.

    The Yankees believed it was a miracle that Matsui made it through the season with his knees. How many times did he have them drained? 3 or 4 times?

    It’s not difficult to understand why Cashman had higher priorities than Matsui. The focus was on dealing with Pettitte first, then Damon would have been next.

    Matsui and his agent read the market correctly and didn’t want to wait for the Yankees to get around to him. Matsui signed very early in the offseason, and by doing so he guaranteed himself a job on a contender. If he waited around, he might have ended up in the same boat as Damon.

    Cashman only signed Johnson after Matsui was gone and Damon was looking unsignable. It was never a case of choosing Johnson over Matsui.

  70. Carl April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    # pat April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Someone give Prince a valium.

    lol

  71. austinmac April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    I watched a bit of an Angels game a couple days ago. Matsui was walking with a much more noticable limp then even last year. It is amazing he can hit with that knee.

  72. The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Pistol, I agree with most of what you said and I think the Yanks made a mistake in letting Matsui go, but mostly because I think he paid for himself with Japanese marketing dollars. That being said, once he was gone, I thought Nick Johnson was a great pickup. His hits have not fallen yet, but he works pitchers and this will get us into bullpens. His on base will be well over .400 by the end of the year and I think his power will be up as well.

  73. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    I’m sorry? Weaver thinks they’re rubbing it in his face? Get over it, dope; the ring ceremony is on Opening Day at YS and your team happens to be the opposing team.

    It goes without saying that I’m pretty excited about Phil’s start…

  74. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    I was fine with Matsui not coming back because I trust Cash.

  75. The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    BJK, there is always a choice and you should not work only one deal at a time.

  76. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Oops, I misread Weaver’s comments; I wish I could erase my comments.

  77. m April 11th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    pat,

    Thanks for clarifying.

    I don’t know how to take it except that he was more motivated? Not necessarily a bad thing, even though as an athlete I’m surprised he didn’t take care of himself.

  78. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Rodriguez has driven a lot of balls out of the park and off the wall off the end of the bat. Cano’s hit to left was also off the end of the bat but he “stroked it”?

    Pretty long winded and rather one side point of view if you ask me. Not worth rereading.

  79. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    BJK, there is always a choice and you should not work only one deal at a time.

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    This is true. The choice that was made was that the DH position wsa the lowest priority. Pitching and Outfield was deemed more important, which is why we have Granderson and the Red Sox don’t.

  80. m April 11th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Hideki’s funny. Breathing New York air? I didn’t know it was that famous. Now the sounds and the smells would be another story. ;)

  81. Nick in SF April 11th, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    There’s always a choice, brotha.

  82. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    So according to another board, AJ sucked because he had a terrible K to BB ratio and didn’t throw that hard. Ok…

  83. Tom in N.J. April 11th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Did the Yankee’s even offer Matsui a contract?

  84. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Austin, Matsui was limping even before playing left field. Rather a stupid thing to do by Sciocia if you ask my. They don’t have another left handed power bat to spare.

  85. Carl April 11th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    So according to another board, AJ sucked because he had a terrible K to BB ratio and didn’t throw that hard. Ok…

    Probably a Jose Veras fan.

  86. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    The only gripe I ever had about Hideki Matsui is that he NEVER spoke a word of English. Not even when he was named the WS MVP. He could have said two words, one word, three words, at that time. Even his teammates were imploring him to speak English at that time. (The raw video that was out at the time – I still have it in my bookmarks and watched it the other day). He was here 7 years and we know nothing more about him today than the day he signed. He was conscientious about making sure his fans in Japan weren’t left out, but never really included his NY fans. Two words in English would have accomplished that. (The only time I remember hearing him speak English was on the YES Network promo and that doesn’t count.)

  87. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    yanks never had a chance to offer Matsui a contract. He was one of the first FAs to sign. I’m sure that Cashman asked him to give the Yanks a few days (because they wanted to talk to Johnson first). If Johnson had turned them down, matsui would have gotten more with the NYYs.

  88. Nick in SF April 11th, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    Actually, I wish I knew a little less about Matsui. :oops:

  89. The Ohta Faction April 11th, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Don’t you wish Joe Morgan worked all Yankee games?

    Yeah, me neither.

  90. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Carl, probably, lol. Oh well – that’s another thread on that board I can ignore.

  91. Jason April 11th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Matsui, Cameron, Lackey all got signed on the same day, hours apart.

    Oh. that was also the same day as the Halladay-Lee trade.

  92. m April 11th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Yesterday, I told one of the kids that Hideki was famous for his ‘porn’ collection. The little one walked in and said, “He has a corn collection?!” Everyone else just laughed and I told him, “Never mind”

  93. pat April 11th, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    I hope Yankee fans who see Hideki when he’s in NY can resist the urge to hang onto his leg like a 2 year old while begging him to come back because that can’t be good for his knees. :wink:

  94. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    m -

    I didn’t get from that article that AJax didn’t take care of himself, just that he decided to take better care. Eat better cut out the junk and really focus.

    I was surprised he seemed to really REALLY get focused though, and I had heard he was focused to begin with. I suppose after being held out of trades for a couple of years, and having Reggie Jackson take an interest in you, one would think he was already on his way up with the Yankees, maybe no need to pick it up quite that much. Plus, realistically, anyone with half a brain would look at the situation and realize almost no matter what he did, unless there was an injury, he wasn’t going to be up here in 2010.

    Detroit was going to start him in the majors. I’m sure he didn’t want to fall flat on his face. I have no problem with him kicking it into highest gear, and I don’t think it means he didn’t work hard enough here.

  95. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    At least matsui saved a lot of money when he moved his wife to LA. It only cost him 41 cents.

  96. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Matsui was a great Yankee. He was a true professional, classy player that always left it all on the field. He came through time and time again. He apologized to Yankee fans when he got hurt. Not sure what speaking English has to do with that, but of course you’re entitled to your opinion.

  97. CD April 11th, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    going 4 and 2 on the road against the toughest division rivals is pretty impressive.

  98. The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    GB7, what you are syaing is wrong. Of course the Yanks had an opportunity to offer Matsui a contract, they chose to ignore him instead. If the Yanks were really interested they would have said here is where we are at and all things being equal, they could have signed him; the Yanks chose not to sign Matsui whether by their action or inaction

  99. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    At least matsui saved a lot of money when he moved his wife to LA. It only cost him 41 cents

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    Lol. Unless he faxed her.

  100. Carl April 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    # Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Carl, probably, lol. Oh well – that’s another thread on that board I can ignore.

    He went 7 and didn’t give up many hard hit balls. I think he did good.

  101. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    @ Nick in SF -

    And that’s the only thing most people do know about him and that’s one thing I wish I didn’t know.

  102. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    LOL GB

  103. CR9 April 11th, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    It’s really telling about how bad the commentary is when I thought that Joe and Tim on FOX were better yesterday than these scum bums Kevin Kennedy and Dewayne Staaaaats.

    Joe and Tim were abominable as usual, but these 2 TB guys are PUTRED!!!

  104. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    BJK -

    I didn’t mean to sound like I didn’t respect everything Matsui did here. I wanted him back. I loved him as a Yankee. He will always be a Yankee. I just wish he could have, just once, when getting the trophy, said a couple of words in English. That’s all I’m saying. I said it was the ONLY gripe I had about him.

  105. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._jorg.html

    Some good stuff here, especially about AJ’s use of the change. I thought this was funny:

    Speaking of efficiency, Posada pointed out his pitcher’s ability to stay cool and took a swipe at Tropicana Field, all in one sentence. Posada complimented Burnett’s composure, “especially when that pop-up crap (happened). Nice stadium.”

    In case his sarcasm didn’t come through, Posada made sure to expand on his dislike for the Rays’ domed home field.

    “It’s not a baseball stadium,” Posada said. “You can’t have balls going all over the place, really. It’s sad.”

    Teixeira called the idea of batted balls disappearing into a catwalk “laughable.”

    “That ball’s an out 99 out of a hundred times, probably 999 times out of a thousand times,” Teixeira said. “To have a pitcher get penalized because it hits a speaker or anything else and it ricochets to another part of the field that’s just not fair. It’s not baseball.

  106. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
    If the Yanks were really interested they would have said here is where we are at and all things being equal, they could have signed him; the Yanks chose not to sign Matsui whether by their action or inaction

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    At that time, the Yankees were trying to choose between Damon and Matsui. Especially after acquiring Granderson. They didn’t need both.

    Damon was the frontrunner because he could also play LF, but he would have primarily been the DH.

    Matsui signing early made it a choice between Damon and Johnson. And then Damon/Boras priced themselves out.

    It’s just how the off-season played out.

  107. Nick in SF April 11th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    I thought the Nick Johnson signing came a lot later than Matsui signing with OC.

  108. GreenBeret7 April 11th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    I see that Larry Jones has been out a few games for Atlanta. He’s hurt again and falling apart rather fast.

  109. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 11th, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Carl, he did – I’m just laughing at those people.

  110. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    BJK -

    Matsui did not apologize to the fans for his injury; he apologized to the team and his teammates.

  111. BJK April 11th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Doreen – 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
    BJK -

    Matsui did not apologize to the fans for his injury; he apologized to the team and his teammates.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Actually, you’re right about that. I stand corrected.

  112. CR9 April 11th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Matsui injured???????

  113. The Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Doreen is correct that matsui should have learned some English; it is just respectful of where you are.

    Also, The Yanks should have made up their mind awhile ago about letting Damon go; I for one feel that Gardner is worth more all around than Damon and this is knowing that Damon is a much better hitter. I think Gardner’s defense saves a lot of runs over Damon and I think Gardenrs SB’s are like extra base hits.

  114. pat April 11th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Doreen

    I’m going to choose to not be insulted by you accusing me of having half a brain although I realistically could be.

  115. NJ Bob April 11th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Guru Man, thanks for sharing the site. the site has some good archives and the Genius Maker’s thoughts and predictions on the playoffs were awesome.

  116. Doreen - 2010 GTLU April 11th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    The Guru Man -

    He did learn English, but he preferred not to speak it in public. I respected that. I just wish he’d have let his guard down that one time – after the WS. I didn’t and don’t think he disrespected us at all. I do think he was very careful of making sure his fans in Japan knew he was still the same guy who they loved while he played there. That is his home, and I do get that. I just wish he had let us in just a little. Well, maybe giving in to the curtain calls were his way of doing that.

    I wish I had just said nothing.

  117. Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    NJ Bob, the guys name is Steve something, but the sites name is the Genius Maker, not him; it is a tribute to Rivera. No problem sharing, this is all about the best yankee coverage and this guy knows the game – he was/is a catcher. My favorite part is when he gets into the pitch selection.

  118. Guru Man April 11th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    got it Doreen; I don;t think you said anything wrong, in fact, I think you are right. I mean he could have just said “The NY Yankees are World Champs” and people would have gone nuts!

  119. Chuck58 April 11th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    Doreen, you are right-on, and it is sad to think people are giving you a hard time;
    apparently they are projecting their insecurities onto what you wrote.

    I, too, treasure the time Matsui spent in pinstripes, and while I would have welcomed
    him back, I understand why things played out as they did. I have no hard feelings.
    I don’t even care that I know about his porn collection; it is part of who he is. Indeed,
    I know he can speak English, and I wish he had done so more often. No worry though.
    I have good memories, and that’s what matters most.

  120. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 11th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    new thread :arrow:

  121. bsure April 11th, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    As a transplant, I attended all three games this weekend at the “Trop,”
    and have been going whenever the Yanks are in town, including spring training
    at “The Boss” (George M. Steinbrenner Field). In fact GMS Field in Tampa is actually a baseball field.

    Jorge is right. The “Trop” is an embarrassment . . . NOT a baseball stadium.

    Imagine the obnoxious sites and blaring sounds of a Pro Wrestling Arena, and that’s the experience at the “Trop.”

    In fact a few Pro “Wrestlers” are often seen at the games. That’s the “attitude” of the place.
    Like being stuck in a giant loud pinball machine. Awful. Go Yankees, and congratulations
    on Tuesday’s ring ceremony at a REAL baseball stadium.

  122. 57' Yank April 12th, 2010 at 1:45 am

    # austinmac April 11th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    I watched a bit of an Angels game a couple days ago. Matsui was walking with a much more noticable limp then even last year. It is amazing he can hit with that knee.

    Mantle HIT with bad knees almost his whole career !!! If he hadn’t played hurt, he wouldn’t have any records. These pansys today won’t play if they have blow there nose !!!

    No, not Matsui ! He was a great Yankee !!!

  123. RhapsodyInBlue April 12th, 2010 at 6:48 am

    pistol pete = broken record

    Johnson vs Matsui.

    Give it a rest.

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