Game 11: Yankees vs. Rangers
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Apr 17, 2010 
Print This Post
| 
Email This Post
YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Johnson DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher RF
Brett Gardner LF
RHP A.J. Burnett
Career vs. Rangers
RANGERS
Julio Borbon CF
Michael Young 3B
Josh Hamilton LF
Vlad Guerrero DH
Nelson Cruz RF
Chris Davis 1B
Joaquin Arias 2B
Taylor Teagarden C
Elvis Andrus SS
RHP Scott Feldman (1-0, 2.57)
Career vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m./YES Network
UMPIRES: HP D.J. Reyburn, 1B Mike DiMuro, 2B Tim Welke, 3B Tim Timmons
WEATHER: Yesterday’s game was washed out after six innings. The Weather Channel says there’s a 10 percent chance of rain at the time of today’s first pitch, and that chance never gets higher than 20 percent all afternoon.
REACHING 200: Joe Girardi has 199 wins as the Yankees manager. One more gives him an even 200.
REACHING FIRST: Derek Jeter and Robinson Cano have a hit in each of the Yankees first 10 games, making them baseball’s first shortstop/second baseman combo of the modern era to get a hit in their team’s first nine or more games.
REMEMBERING THE VOICE: It was 59 years ago today that Bob Sheppard called his first game at Yankee Stadium. It was also Mickey Mantle’s first big league game.
UPDATE, 12:17: This is Brian Heyman pinch hitting for Chad today. Joe Girardi had his usual pregame meeting with the media and there wasn’t much in the way of news. He thinks Mark Teixeira is a little off mechanically at the plate, as his .083 average would indicate. But a slow start obviously isn’t a new thing for him. Girardi said Boone Logan can be used for situational matchups or an inning, and that he’s confident in the lefty reliever against lefties and righties. The manager is happy with A-Rod’s at-bats even though he has yet to hit a homer in his first 10 games, the first time that’s happened since 2001. And he has no plans to turn Francisco Cervelli into CC Sabathia’s personal catcher.
UPDATE, 2:00: Finally, a contribution from Teixeira. He began the season 0 for 17 and he just ended another 0-for-17 slide in the second with his bases-loaded, broken-bat RBI single that second baseman Joaquin Arias stopped on the outfield grass, wide of first. A-Rod popped to center to leave them loaded. So the Yankees are up 2-0 after two but have stranded five, three in scoring position.
UPDATE, 2:17: Quick hook by Ron Washington, hoping not to let this game out of hand. He pulled Scott Feldman with one out here in the third and runners on second and third, and the Yankees up 2-0.
UPDATE, 2:26: Well, that didn’t work out too well for Texas – 6-0 Yankees, heading for the fourth. Derek Jeter capped it with a two-run homer. The captain now has hit three long balls already. By the way, Jorge Posada’s single that ignited the four-run rally was his 1,500th hit, making him the 19th Yankee to reach that mark and only the fourth whose primary position is catcher (Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey and Thurman Munson are the others).
UPDATE, 2:39: There goes another milestone. A-Rod just hit No. 584, passing Mark McGwire for sole possession of eighth place on the all-time homer list. It snapped his 41 at-bat homerless streak to start the season, his longest since he went the first 48 at-bats of 1995 without one. 7-0 Yankees after four. A.J. Burnett has allowed just one infield hit.
UPDATE, 4:11: Yankees win, 7-3. Joba finished with a 1-2-3 ninth. The Yankees are now 4 for 4 in taking series with one to go in this one. Burnett allowed no runs, six hits and two walks while fanning seven over seven to move to 2-0. The only negative for the Yankees was Alfredo Aceves serving up a three-run homer. The team is 8-3 with three straight victories.
UPDATE, 7:56: Can you guess when the Yankees last won their first four series in a season? We’ll get back to that.
Joe Girardi couldn’t be happier with how his team is playing. The only one who really hasn’t joined in yet is Mark Teixeira, but he will. His broken-bat RBI single was his only hit in four at-bats, so his average is now up to .100, at 4 for 40. There really isn’t much to complain about otherwise. This team is able to win with home runs and small ball. The Yankees have put up 10 infield hits the last two days. This is their best 11-game start since they were 9-2 in 2003.
“I don’t necessarily always remember how you start,” Girardi said at his postgame press conference. ”You remember how you finish, and that’s the important thing. But it’s nice to win four series, and we have a chance to sweep the series tomorrow.”
There was much postgame talk about Brett Gardner beating out three infield hits. A-Rod said he’d never seen that before. Texas manager Ron Washington said the Yankees now have their own version of Ichiro. A little hyperbole. But Gardner did have a major impact on the first two rallies with his speed. ”I’d like to be hitting line drives, but definitely for me, it’s more positive when I put it on the ground,” Gardner said.
Rodriguez said he had been getting teased by teammates over his wait for homer No. 1. ”It’s good to get the first one out of the way for him,” Girardi said. A-Rod’s average is up to .279 after a 2-for-4 day.
The answer to when was the last time the Yankees won their first four series: That would be 1926 when they took their first five.
go yanks numero uno
What keeps AJ from becoming an elite pitcher is he walks so many batters.
Watch CC and learn. He is a strike throwing machine. With him you have to hit to get on base.
The record of 102 years without a Championship remains the Pinnacle of Mediocrity:
it requires substaining the perfect confluence of bad Luck and pure Suckiness that is unparalleled across all athletic genre.
AJ could learn from CC. CC wasnt wasting a pitch last night. He was in a hurry because the rain was coming. 0-2 strikeouts, unheard of.
Work fast, throw strikes.
Mets worst team in baseball.
must win game today
want to head out to the west cost on a good note….
The manager is happy with A-Rod’s at-bats even though he has yet to hit a homer in his first 10 games
*******************************
I think it happens today. I keep saying that-I figure I’ve got to be right one of these days, right?
must win game today
——–
So if it’s a must win game, what happens if the Yanks lose? The season ends?
Here’s a Stat I like Bos catchers are 1 for 17 with base stealer’s. It’s a base stealer’s haven!!
Where is the defense Theo heralded this offseason? Beltre bumping into Ellsbury brusing his ribs on a play and taking him out of the line up, (because of a collision) they looked like Laurel and Hardy in the outfield.
How ironic, fred!
Must-win for setting out to the Left Coast on a positive note
[except, today's Saturday and we play again tomorrow].
Nice try and thank you for playing.
-1
fred April 17th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
must win game today
****************************
“The manager is happy with A-Rod’s at-bats even though he has yet to hit a homer in his first 10 games, the first time that’s happened since 2001.”
….and the good news is he went on to put up: 52 hr 135 rbi’s .399 .622 1.021
there are no must wins in April.
Finally YES people notice A-Rod hasn’t hit HR for a while
so quick to chastise Fred…maybe he has money on the game
SJ – Is that true about Directv, Extra Inningas and the blackout rule? That’s great. Thanks for the heads up.
Lets go Yankees!!!
So Fox is no longer monopolizing Saturday baseball….thats great.
JackCurryYES Sabathia’s stats in last 2 starts w Cervelli as C: 13 2/3 ip, 1 run, 4 hits, 14 k, 2 w. Wonder if Cervelli will catch CC’s next start.
CurryYES I said before Game 2 that Logan would be with Yanks soon. Granted, it took Park’s injury. But some team execs prefer Logan over Marte.
so easy to get a rise here with a stupid remark yet nothing for a clear observation with a sign of intelligence, why is that?
i expect no comment.
“there are no must wins in April.”
I agree, there are not.
60-60-42
brian heyman? any relation to Jon?
“Here’s a Stat I like Bos catchers are 1 for 17 with base stealer’s. It’s a base stealer’s haven!!”
that was pretty predictable before the season even started.
i have no idea what theo was thinking when he didn’t get a back up who could throw.
the yankees however haven’t been much better – 1 for 12 in throwing out base stealers.
of course with the yankees , this is because of a small sample, but with the red sox it’s a continuing trend from last year.
juts as an aside, when a team attempts to steal second and third on a play, and one runner is thrown out and one is safe, does that count as one base stolen against and one runner thrown out for the catcher?
Over forty thousand people are at the stadium today to see Boone Logan.
“Finally YES people notice A-Rod hasn’t hit HR for a while”
As long as the Yankees are winning 7 out 10, I don’t care if A-Rod ever hits a HR.
Randy,
I don’t expect those numbers to improve much in Boston. Posada still throws better than both Vmart and Varitek and the Yankees staff holds runners much better IMO. As we have said for months…its going to be an issue for the Sox all season.
give credits and some time to Vazquez. He’s one of only few pitchers wanna transfer from NL to AL east.
Look at Halladay, NL basically is retarded.
For your pre-game viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
# NYYanksFan April 17th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
“Finally YES people notice A-Rod hasn’t hit HR for a while”
As long as the Yankees are winning 7 out 10, I don’t care if A-Rod ever hits a HR.
=========================================================
Do you think they will keep on winning with NO production from Tex and Arod. It’s bound to catch up with them.
“Do you think they will keep on winning with NO production from Tex and Arod. It’s bound to catch up with them.”
I think Tex and Arod will start producing before it catches up with them…Arod has been swinging the bat pretty well, just hasn’t hit one out yet.
“As long as the Yankees are winning 7 out 10, I don’t care if A-Rod ever hits a HR.”
It’s unrealistic to expect your team win in long run if your no.3 and no.4 batter are not hitting well.
Who will have the most homeruns at the end of the 2010 season:
(1) Varitek
(2) Tex
(3) A-Rod
(4) Swisher
“i have no idea what theo was thinking when he didn’t get a back up who could throw.”
What’s interesting is how this is becoming such an issue in Boston now – after a whole year of it last season when they couldn’t throw any one out.
Part of it I suppose is the whole run prevention issue – it just makes the whole “philosophy” look so egregiously silly.
But part of it to is that it’s now Martinez doing the catching. People in Boston seem to be laying this problem largely at the feet of Martinez. That’s just great. The fact is, Varitek was even worse at throwing out runners than Martinez was last year. And as a whole, the Red Sox organizational philosophy is to not have pitchers worry about base runners.
This looks to be a developing example of an individual being blamed for a systemic problem.
And that’s not a recipe for fixing the problem.
According to the latest iPhone app, the newest formula for converting NL/AL ERA is
AL ERA = NL ERA + 5.795633033033
“It’s unrealistic to expect your team win in long run if your no.3 and no.4 batter are not hitting well.”
It’s unrealistic to expect your no.3 and no.4 batter to not hit well in the long run.
There is a reason Vmart was playing a lot of 1B in Cleveland.. I’m not sure what the Sox thought they were getting. To be fair, they didn’t have a lot of other options.
However as I’ve said before, I think they would be a better team if they had moved Youkalis to 3rd, Vmart to 1st, attempted to obtain a defensive catcher, and used the money they gave to Beltre and Cameron to sign Holliday. They would have been tough then with that staff, but they didn’t want to ante up for Holliday so I guess they had to do what the did.
“Do you think they will keep on winning with NO production from Tex and Arod. It’s bound to catch up with them.?”
“It’s unrealistic to expect your team win in long run if your no.3 and no.4 batter are not hitting well.”
Unless you think that Tex is going to bat .083 for the rest of the year, I can’t imagine caring about what would happen in these hypothetical situations.
“It’s unrealistic to expect your team win in long run if your no.3 and no.4 batter are not hitting well.”
Hitting well and hitting HRs are 2 different things to me.
Hi Chad Jennings,
Is there a free online radio feed?
So nice to actually be able to watch a Saturday game.
Young couldn’t have rolled that one out there better under handed.
AJ has such good stuff. Michael Young is a good fastball hitter. Young has the count in his favor 3-1. Clear fastball count.
AJ’s next pitch is a fastball that Young swings through. Not even close. Next pitch is a another fastball on the outside corner that overpower Young. He fouls it off. Pitch after that is another fastball that Young can’t do much with and hits a seeing eye tapper to third that’s little more than a bunt.
3-1 count with a fastball hitter at the plate. And that hitter can’t catch up or do much with three straight fastballs.
cb-
the only thing that i can think of is that theo’s thinking must be something like if the red sox threw out runners at a 30% rate they would have thrown out 4 more runners so far this year and that martinez is worth more offensively than four bases compared to a weak hitting but good defensive catcher.
the problem with that kind of thinking is that it makes a difference when a base is gained. when opposing team can steal at will in a crucial late game situation, a base might cost a game.
the fact that opposing teams can increase their probability of getting one run late in games is going to cause the red sox to lose a lot of close games.
i think they are toast if they don’t make a change at the catcher position. they could hide martinez situationally if they got a strong armed back up who they could spot against certain teams like the yankees, rays, and angels or use late in games to prevent a key stolen base.
atta boy AJ
If AJ just can throws strikes he will win a ton of games this year. He has a such a great fastball and such great movement that hitters will get themselves out most of the time if he will let them.
Who has a quick scouting report on Feldman?
Hey gang! Flying through the posts and somebody (can’t remember who said it, not that it matters) mentioned that no matter how good Cervelli is, he’s still a backup catcher. To which I say, yes, and so was there a day that Posada was still a backup catcher. Funny how these things manage to eventually come full circle. Plenty of time for Cervelli to flourish.
You know, all the play Cervelli is getting might be a good thing on another level altogether. Jorge is extremely competitive. This might spur him to rachet things up a notch. I’m loving how he and AJ have been working out.
Disclaimer – this is not disparaging Jorge as a catcher.
GO YANKEES!!!
“i think they are toast if they don’t make a change at the catcher position.”
They keep talking about Papi vs. Lowell as the DH. But that might not be the real decision.
They may be better off DH’ing Martinez and getting a new catcher.
But at the same time they’ve been trying to trade for a catcher for several years now so I don’t see where they find one. Teams don’t have an “excess” of catching during the season.
Very tough problem. And Varitek is not the solution.
Mr. Feldman looks unhittable today.
“They may be better off DH’ing Martinez and getting a new catcher.”
ding ding ding…lets hope they don’t
Don’t know if there’s been discussion about Feldman’s pitching, but he’s a really good pitcher. Texas really has shaped up in terms of pitching, the thing that had been their bugaboo for quite a while.
I think I can go 3 for 36
Even if he starts getting hot, it’ll take 2 months for Johnson to raise his batting avg because he walks so much.
once Tex and ARod start mashing, these NJ walks are really going to kill other teams
he is walking more than once a game so far but they aren’t scoring him.
that will change, and when it does, other teams are in trouble
To all,
Regarding Yankee fan blogs; I haven’t checked out many, but I like River Avenue Blues. Which others do you think are worthy of bookmarking?
Another walk for NJ. He has an amazing eye for the strike zone but I think his reputation is starting to get him calls also. He gets a lot of borderline pitches called for balls, which is a good thing for the Yanks.
“They may be better off DH’ing Martinez and getting a new catcher.”
————-
considering they previously shown they won’t move Buchholz for a catcher, you’re right, they may have a hard time.
if the Sox do overvalue their prospects, as it’s starting to seem, they’re going to have a very hard time improving their team mid-season.
Regarding Yankee fan blogs; I haven’t checked out many, but I like River Avenue Blues. Which others do you think are worthy of bookmarking?
–
http://www.rlyw.net/
Here you go, Encinitan: http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/
Kind of feel bad for Tex. We all know that his reputation is to be pretty cold when he starts out. We also all know what he does once he warms up. Well imagine the pressure he has because nobody seems to be willing to deal with the reality of his rhythm and he will likely start to press even more to satisfy the hordes, rather than relax and just let it come naturally – the way it does every single season.
Long live the never-satisfied baseball fan! And the vulturing media.
As a P.S., the Yankees have been fine without his hitting.
(Trying to play catch up here)
No idea what they’re going to do about Martinez, but I do know what they’re going to do about Varitek – let him catch Beckett every start out.
I wonder when is the last time a player goes 3/37 or worse to start a season.
Trisha,
I totally agree. Its a shame that as talented as he is, he continues to go in these slumps in April.
I feel for him.
“Who has a quick scouting report on Feldman?”
Feldman is a good pitcher – not great but effective. He’s more of a command and control guy. Sits around 90. Not going to strike out many – but not going to walk many.
He’s effective down in the zone. The key pitch for him is that cut fastball. Throws it a lot and uses it well to keep the ball off the sweet spot of the bat.
He generates ground balls well and that’s really the key for him. Part of why he’s relatively done well throwing for the Rangers in arlington.
He’s a guy I could see giving the yankees some trouble because he’s not going to walk a lot of hitters and he doesn’t given up that many home runs (especially given he plays half his games in Arlington).
Im waiting for a curve ball
a good one AJ
AJ just overpowered one of the hottest hitters in baseball.
Thanks CB
That pitch to K Tex was tough. Nothing he could with that.
Cruz laid off a good curveball with two strikes on him. That was impressive. Very good pitch recognition.
And of course then AJ overpowers him with his fastball.
And Cruz is a tremendous fastball hitter.
Chris Davis is not going to be long for the Texas starting line up. Unless they trade him for an Adrian Gonzalez type, Justin Smoak is going to be the starting 1b in Texas pretty soon.
Watch how many pitches AJ will throw per inning with Posada catching, pay attention especially to the amount of balls per batter.
lot of late swings by a good fastball hitting lineup.
CB April 17th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Cruz laid off a good curveball with two strikes on him. That was impressive. Very good pitch recognition.
And of course then AJ overpowers him with his fastball.
And Cruz is a tremendous fastball hitte
AJ looks calm.
I see AJ was watching CC’s performance last night and was taking copius notes.
This whole aggressive approach to pitching is a lot of fun to watch! It appears to be contagious as well.
I haven’t seen Smoak play but from everything I’ve read he’s a Teixera clone with possibly slightly less power….is that accurate CB.
AJ is throwing very loose and easy today
Jerkface, you like RAB? I find it a bit pretentious.
I want to know who in the Yankees org. prefers Logan over Marte, lol. Marte is only a proven major leaguer while Logan has yet to have success of any kind.
Mickey Mantle. Faster than Gardner. Stronger than Tex. What a combination.
Jorge and AJ on the same page? The world is going to end………..
I would love AJ to finally put it all together…..if he can, the Yankees will be very hard to beat.
“AJ looks calm.”
Carl,
I completely agree. Watching AJ’s first two games and how he looks today I would say that’s one of the top words that comes to mind.
So far he looks like he’s keeping things much simpler out on the mound. His mechanics are much more streamlined and consistent. He’s not over rotating as much as he did last year. He’s keeping his shoulder closed much better.
Last year he would wing up trying to overthrow so often – not even velocity wise. Too much on his curve ball, etc.
And when he was bad he’d invariably get flustered, lose concentration, etc. So far in this small sample of innings, he’s looked much more in control.
” Flying through the posts and somebody (can’t remember who said it, not that it matters) mentioned that no matter how good Cervelli is, he’s still a backup catcher.”
i said it.
he’s good for a back up , but that’s it .
he has a lifetime mlb OPS under .700 . his minor league OPs is about .740.
if a whole team had an .740OPS they’d score around 720 runs and be closer to last place than first place.
the reality is that a team like the yankees could carry a good defensive but weak hitting catcher and get their offense somewhere else, but with posada in there now and montero coming, why would they want to do that?
Curtis just missed that
Curtis just missed that one, got under it just a bit.
Curtis just missed that pitch. He just got under it by a hair.
My brother Rick is on ESPN radio right now talking about the nfl draft.
great at bat
blake,
Tex is the player Smoak is compared to very frequently. Switch hitter. 1b. Good glove.
He’s not as good as Tex. He probably falls short in several dimensions – not a knock on Smoak who I really like. He’s just not on Tex’s level. Power in particular.
In a strange way, the guy who might be most similar to Tex in the minors right now is Dustin Ackley.
Ackley is generally considered to be the best college hitter since at least Tex played at Georigia Tech.
“They may be better off DH’ing Martinez and getting a new catcher.”
shhhhhhh.
we like it the way it is
but you’re right.
i’m just very surprised how theo painted himself into a corner.
so much for being the brilliant young gm on this one.
CB
If the RedSux decide to look to the trade market for a C then the guy I think they bring back is Kurt Suzuki from the A’s.
Very good hitter with some pop and an excellent defensive catcher that is really underrated because h plays on the A’s and doesn’t get much national coverage.
We know Billy loves doing the deal…
Tar, I watched Feldman last season because I actually like to watch my fantasy players (silly I know
) and when he’s on he’s a strike machine. I think what really impressed me in his more effectrive outings was how so many of his different pitches seemed to tail off. Last season I ended up with him by default. This season someone scooped him up.
Beautiful Pitch!
Pretty high strike imo
Swisher’s swing is getting a bit long again…
CB, I’ve seen Ackley a lot (tarheel), and yes, he can rake.
Gardner is so slow
Thats what Gardner can do…dribbles a ball down the line and makes the fielders rush and make mistakes.
randy: that assumes montero will be a catcher, which is doubtful.
“If the RedSux decide to look to the trade market for a C then the guy I think they bring back is Kurt Suzuki from the A’s.”
Champ,
Suzuki would be a great pick up for the Sox – but I can’t see the A’s trading him at all. They would have to get a desperation package from the Sox to make it worth it to them. Billy would ask for a ridiculous package.
Suzuki is cheap and plays a premium pitcher. Though I’m not sure I don’t think the A’s have any good young catching prospect.
The Red Sox were rumored for a while to be interested in Miguel Montero and they never met the D’Backs price before they signed Montero to that extension.
I don’t think the Sox would pay the price needed to get Suzuki.
They have a structural issue with their organization at all levels at the catching spot.
This is too funny:
======================================
YankeesInk Now this media member is Googling for answers to his crossword puzzle. So he’s not only cheating his boss & readers, he’s cheating himself.
1 minute ago via web
YankeesInk A member of the Texas media in front of me is working on a computer crossword puzzle titled “Classic Theme Songs.” During the game.
2 minutes ago via web
YankeesInk Top 2nd. 1-2-3 inning for AJ. Two strikeouts in a row. He’s got both control and velocity today. It makes him a very formidable AJ indeed.
7 minutes ago via web
feldman at 45 pitches.
Texas has a strike thrower on the mound and he’s still nearly thrown 50 pitches and its the 2nd inning.
we’ll take an RBI walk here
Cervelli would have scored! See I can do that too Thames haters.
Derek, another one who hits in his sleep.
Betsy, I truly believe Jorge and AJ have it together and we now will see a beautifully consistent AJ. I think it was critical that they got on the same page because no matter how much people want to deny the reality of it, they were not in synch last season, for the most part. With someone like AJ, I think his mental comfort is as important as his physical comfort. Being on the same page with his catcher certainly will make for a much more effective AJ.
I’m totally excited about watching what they will do together this season.
More on the Texas guy:
YankeesInk Okay, get this, folks. The Texas reporter is now looking at diagrams of abdominal organs. Seriously, should he be reporting on baseball???
2 minutes ago via web
YankeesInk The Texas reporter has quit on his crossword puzzle. He’s now on a page titled, “This Week’s Most Popular Trivia Squares”. I’m SERIOUS!
5 minutes ago via web
“I’ve seen Ackley a lot (tarheel), and yes, he can rake.”
blake-
I forgot you’re a tarheel as well. How good do you think ackley is? I’ve only seen him a bit on TV when he was in college. Very impressive.
At the same time, there seems to be a widespread sentiment on him that Ackley was the best hitter to play D-1 in a generation?
Do you agree with that high a praise for him? Can you see him sticking at 2b for the M’s? Early reports on him there have been good.
If the M’s want Adrian Gonzalez I can’t see how they get that done without including Ackley (who would have to be included as a PTBNL if Gonzalez gets traded before the draft this year).
walk RBI?
The yankees just work counts.
NJ will be out
Be back in a bit!
Posada is slow. LOL
atta boy NJ!
walk!
This yankee line up is just sick. It is brutal to face.
Feldman is really a command pitcher. He is generally quite efficient and is around the plate.
But the yankees are just driving his pitch count up and up. Feldman probably has no idea what to do out there on the mound.
The yanks will just not expand the zone for the pitcher at all. And even when he makes a quality pitch the yankees at worst just fight it off.
It’s just a slow bludgeoning.
And the rangers pen is awful outside of Feliz.
33 pitch inning?
Not going to strike out many – but not going to walk many.
–
I disagree, Feldman walks over 3 per 9 in his career. Thats probably why he wasn’t very good outside of a reasonably lucky year last year.
RBI Walk…nice
Tex can erase everything right here.
NJ is the man I want to see with the bases loaded.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Jerkface, you like RAB? I find it a bit pretentious
************************************************************
The only time I have ever been called a jerkface was when I refused an offer of prostitution by an obvious pre-op transexual. Are you that same person? Were you able to afford the operation?
Nick J will have 10 RBI this year just on bases loaded walks.
ok Tex- a hit…any kind of hit…will do just fine
This is not a good position for Tex to break out
A gift
what is the season record for walks with the bases loaded? I think NJ is going to challenge that this year.
Cervelli is hardly a “weak hitting catcher.” The fact that he manages to get hits just about every time he catches, when he only gets to the plate every 5th game, says a lot about his ability to hit. He may not be a power hitter, but he gets on base. And he drives runs in. And he’s pretty fast on the bases.
Not bad at all for a back-up catcher.
Or do I have to quote Girardi here?
Tex!!!
that’s how you break out of a slump
wow
A hit! A hit!
A BASE HIT!!! it’s a miracle!!
CB,
He can flat out hit…I don’t think he quite has Tex’s power but if he can stick at 2B then he doesn’t have to. Hes a great athlete so I think theres a good chance he can play there. He’s a guy that can do a lot of things and do them well…he won’t stay in the minors too long I wouldn’t imagine. I am a little biased probably
yay for tex!
I’m sure Tex will take that!
A hit
Tex with an RBI laser
Finally, Tex gets a lil bit of luck.
And that 2nd strike was NOT borderline – it was outside clearly (on replay)
A single from A-Rod should be fine
How do you swing at the first pitch when the pitcher is struggling? How Alex?
why swing at the first pitch
Betsy:
I like RAB, but I don’t read the comments. I think their articles are good and their farm reports are very useful. They have a lot of articles which I like because I need stuff to read all day.
LOHUD is my main spot for yankee news, RAB for the articles, Replacement Level is awesome, and then i have a few messageboards I check.
NYYFANS is a wasteland.
Either not one of Feldman’s more effective outings, or these Yankees will manage to wear down anyone – or a combination of the two.
That’s the hardest Feldman has ever worked and only given up 2 runs, I promise you…
Alex probably thought that because felman was laboring he would throw a meatball.
It must have looked like a good pitch to Alex.
“why swing at the first pitch”
Expecting a get me over fastball.
Feldman threw 23 pitches in the 1st, and 38 in the 2nd. His atrm has to be on fire. I see going to the pen by the 5th. AJ threw 17 in the 1st and 14 in the 2nd.
Wow – who knew Yankee Stadium CF was so hard to play?
why doesn’t AJ just challenge Elvis?
Remember the home run derby we saw at the Stadium last season? I know we’re only 5 stadium games in, but it doesn’t seem to be screaming out the way it did last season.
Too early to tell?
Feldman just had to throw a brutal inning. But gets out of it after doing a nice bit of pitching to Alex Rodriguez.
He’s in the dugout now and what does he have to look forward to next inning?
Cano, Posada and Granderson.
The constant pressure this line up puts on pitchers is really something. On the whole they refuse to get themselves out and that means the pitcher has to work for every out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHRybyVKaRc
“that assumes montero will be a catcher, which is doubtful.”
in my mind, after watching montero this spring, there’s no doubt that he’s going to be catching for the yankees.
montero is not a poor defensive catcher who can’t throw. he can throw.
and he can really hit. all star kind of hitting.
Another terrific inning from AJ. Posada makes a poor play on that passed ball. Instead of dwelling on the situation and losing focus AJ bears down and dispenses with the next two hitters leaving the runner in scoring position.
Young’s at bat was pretty telling there. Man on third two outs and Young tries attacking the first pitch from AJ.
That’s the kind of at bat that tells you the Rangers feel that AJ has great stuff and they don’t want to give him a chance to get ahead because that gives them no shot.
Young’s at bat was the kind of at bat where a hitter is figuring the first pitch is the best pitch I’m likely to see to get this run home.
And hitters last year often gave AJ every chance to dig himself into trouble. Not this game.
@Betsy
Yeah, RAB is pretty pretentious. The articles are good, but the comments are a little shallow and pedantic.
Another 17 inning pitch count for AJ, 13 below Feldman for the same amount of innings..
AJ 48 Feldman 61
Posada just keeps having one good at bat after another. He’s squaring up one pitch after another after another.
It’s just remarkable. This is a guy who is 38 and may be a better hitter now than he was at 28.
Posada now looks like a guy who has accumulated years of hitting experience and knowledge but still has the hand speed of a young player.
Posada doesn’t even look like a good running rounding first on a single.
Initially when I saw that passed ball I thought it was all Posada’a fault for not moving his body. After watching it again I realized it was more an issue of AJ missing badly, and throwing his fastball by Posada. I think it fooled Posada how quickly it got past him.
…like a good runner…
Granderson continues to impress taking the ball the other way.
It’s getting old saying this but… what a pickup for the Yanks.
A real CF for the next few years.
“Another 17 inning pitch count for AJ, 13 below Feldman for the same amount of innings..
AJ 48 Feldman 61″
Thanks John Nash.
Another 17 inning pitch count for AJ, 13 below Feldman for the same amount of innings..
–
AJ actually has 1 more inning.
Swisher’s last at bat took 10 pitches to get him out, Feldman is already at 73 pitches!
Go SWISH.
Very surprised to see Washington pull Feldman here. They really don’t have a good bull pen.
Feldman wasn’t awful and the yanks really didn’t hit the ball that hard.
It’s just so impressive to watch the at bats this “pathetic and embarrassing” line up have one after another.
They just will not expand the zone at all. And you could see Feldman just struggling to figure out what to do against a line up that refuses to get itself out. He just didn’t have much to turn to in the face of this discipline.
“It’s just remarkable. This is a guy who is 38 and may be a better hitter now than he was at 28.”
————–
you said it.
when people talk about HOF catchers, I just can’t remember too many non-HOF catchers who continued to be this good at this age.
his defense hasn’t been very sharp in the first 2 weeks, but as long as he stays behind the plate, his bat will continue to be such a weapon for this team.
grats Jorge
“Cervelli is hardly a “weak hitting catcher.”
he has a life time major league .683OPS
that’s weak hitting.
but the yankees can carry him because they are so strong offensively.
there’s nothing wrong with being a strong defensive catcher, a weak hitter, and a major league back up on the yankees.
cervelli will likely have a long career- over ten years and maybe longer.
but he’s not a good hitter, and he’s not starting for the yankees unless injuries derail montero and romine.
Knocked out after 2.1 innings, go Yankees with your bad selves!!
As much as Yankees want Montero to be the catcher when Posada is not catching full time, I think by the end of this season Cervelli will make that decision very difficult. And, Girardi will be in his corner.
Cervelli has proven that he is very good defensively. He calls a good game. Works very well with all the pitchers. For a catcher he runs fast. The only question was his offense. Sof ar, in the majors he has done vary well. The only thing missing is power.
I would not be surprised if he earns the designation of next starting catcher after posada and be the starting catcher possibly as early as in 2012.
The quality of Swisher’s at bats is receding again… He has to do a better job of getting that run home.
i like Gardy but can he get the ball out of the infield?
CB,
Feldman had started the season very strong and the stuff he had today was probably good enough to hold many lineups down.
Considering how much they struggled against Pineiro, I thought they might have a hard time with Feldman (another guy who throws strikes with late movement).
Nice job by the bats to make him work.
This may bode well for their rematch against Joel next week.
he has a life time major league .683OPS
that’s weak hitting.
–
But he is also a lifetime .295 hitter
yea gardy!
atta boy bg
What is Washington doing to his bullpen for tomorrow’s game? How deep can Mathis go?
“i like Gardy but can he get the ball out of the infield?”
No need to, I guess.
Why is gardner playing he’s so slow!
speed kills
Gardner making this happen!
rangers defense= embarassing
Keep doing it till someone gets it right!
And just like that Gardner is hitting .280.
Jete!!
Jeter pull swing, so sexy
DEREK is on fire!
yankees…good at baseball
Jeter definitely looking like Jeter circa 2008… all those ground balls to shortstop!!
wow Jeter has got his power stroke this year.
Like AJ says, “It’s only a matter of time before the offense will explode”
working the count, taking pitches, double steals, home runs.
what a team !!!!
Jeter is gonna be way ahead of A-Rod in homers by the end of the year…… Not
Jeter is really in the groove this year.
If this lead doesn’t make AJ pound the strike zone, i dont know what else will.
It’s something to monitor.
“Cervelli is hardly a “weak hitting catcher.”
—————–
he has been better than expected with the bat so far (I think?). If he can continue to prove everyone wrong, that’s great. For a backup catcher at the end of the batting order, his bat hasn’t been a liability and when he has gotten his hits, it seems like they’ve been big ones (RISP)
He never projected to be a big hitter and anything you get from him with the bat is a bonus.
It’s hard not to like the guy but until or unless he completes a full season or two, I think we should keep expectations low. As long as he is solid behind the plate, he is giving the Yankees exactly what they need him to give.
The Yanks are on the way to being 8-3 and our 3 & 4 hitters haven’t hit a homer yet.
Crazy!!
Could you ask for a more perfect inning?
Good point, Benny Blanco; AJ with a 6-0 lead is… oh wait.
I feel bad for the Rangers pitchers. That pitch that Jeter hit wasn’t even a bad pitch. It was inside and Jeter just turned on it.
Jerkface,
C’mon, be a sport, can I at least get a “yeah, okay..” outta ya?
If the Yankees continue to get into opposing teams bullpens by the 5th inning and AJ keeps pitching like this then good luck Boston and TB…gonna be tough for you guys.
CB,
what was that you were saying about the Rangers bullpen?
consider they took one of their best bullpen arms in CJ Wilson and moved him to the rotation…
a 1-2-3 punch of Wilson/Francisco/Feliz would actually be one of the better trios on the league.
But without Wilson and without much else, they just don’t seem to have the firepower to stay in games if their starter can’t go 6-7 innings.
I know that Nick has 13 walks already, does anybody know how many whiffs ????
“What is Washington doing to his bullpen for tomorrow’s game? How deep can Mathis go?”
This is part of why I was surprised to see Washington pull Feldman.
First it seemed like a low probability that the relief pitcher replacing him would do any better. Feldman wasn’t doing anything wrong per se. The line up was just sanding him down.
And now the Rangers have a huge problem tomorrow. And it’s not like the yankee line up is going to be any less disciplined tomorrow.
And the Rangers have Rich Harden going tomorrow as it is. Harden is hardly a guy who you can count on for length. And Harden’s stuff has been poor this season.
Maybe there was nothing Washington could do, but it seems to me like he really helped up the yankees probability of sweeping this series.
except for that 6-0 lead against boston last year.
Is it just me, or is the ESPN New York blog very negative toward the Yanks? I don’t quite understand the point or profitability of the site if it turns away Yankee fans.
Blake, here’s what I want to know…
If the homeplate umps are conspiring to cheat the Yanks, why do they let the Yankee BATTERS work over opposing pitchers like this?
The mind reels..
“I would not be surprised if he earns the designation of next starting catcher after posada and be the starting catcher possibly as early as in 2012.”
i would be.
i suppose if the yankees put carl crawford in left field hey could carry cervelli’s weak bat, but where is montero and romine in your scenario ?
romine is a very good young catcher too.
Again, Cervelli has 100 total at bats in the majors. After his first 600 AB in the majors, Pudge Rodriguez had an OPS of .650. Let’s not declare him a washout already.
Jeter and Mariano are in a contract years, expect greatness !
Vlad is like CC. Nice guy.
Michael Kay forgetting that he just told this Vlad story two days ago, lol.
If I have to hear Michael Kay tell me about Mrs. Guerrero’s home cooking one more time…
“working the count, taking pitches, double steals, home runs.”
It is really amazing when you think about all of the different ways this yankee team can hurt the opposition.
They an beat a team in so many ways, especially with Granderson and Garner in the line up.
It must be maddening for the opposing pitcher and manager. What do you possibly do.
RS,
I think we’ll hear it during every Angels series and Rangers series.
When Kay thinks he has a good story, he’ll tell it every chance he gets
@ben
Did you really compare Cervelli to Pudge?
“Again, Cervelli has 100 total at bats in the majors. After his first 600 AB in the majors, Pudge Rodriguez had an OPS of .650. Let’s not declare him a washout already.”
—————-
who is calling him a washout?
I think Cervelli is looking like one of the best backup catchers in the majors.
I thought randy said about the same.
just need to temper expectations unless proven otherwise (and I’d live to see him do that)
with AJ and CC pitching like this, the yanks are scary.
AJ is a great matchup against the Rangers. He always gets quite a few strikeouts when he faces them (I think he had 12 Ks in one game last year)
stuckey,
Don’t try to figure that one out…you’ll poke holes in all the conspiracy theories.
Rick Ankiel looking like one of the better KC free agent signings in a while.
(of course their resume over the past few seasons is not very good
)
Jose: No, I did not. I pointed out that all sorts of players, both good and bad, start out their careers hitting relatively poorly. Accordingly, it’s pretty foolish to cite poor performance over someone’s first 100 ABs as conclusive proof that they will never become a good hitter.
AJ 13 PITCHES, and that’s the way we like it! Methinks Cerevelli motivated a lot more than CC last night!
“does anybody know how many whiffs ????”
10 going into today.
Jesus Montero has such a special bat. People really aren’t fully absorbing how good this player is.
He is going to make the question about who the next yankee catcher is an afterthought.
He could be the worst defensive catcher in the major leagues and he could still be a huge plus playing catcher.
And I don’t think he’ll be the worst defensive catcher in the majors.
With Alex Gordon returning (and if hte guy can stay on the field), that lineup looks as good as it has in years.
Dejesus
Podsednik
Butler
Gordon
Ankiel
Callaspo
Kendall
they won’t lead the league in runs, but they at least have a few ML caliber bats in there.
A-Rod!!
Finally!!!!
Garbage time HR for a-rod
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A-ROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AROD!
About time.
Cereelli compared to Pudge, Noway Cerevelli is roiding!
garbage time HR :p
One monkey off the back, one to go…
everyone can relax now…arod hit a homer (like he wasn’t going to hit one or something)
Ron Washington must be on crack to pull his starter in the bottom of the third with only 2 runs in.
One monkey off the back, one to go…
–
Its a little early to be counting monkeys.
Arod hit his first homerun.
All opposing pitchers please be advised.
“Jesus Montero has such a special bat. People really aren’t fully absorbing how good this player is.”
—————
I think most of the LoHud readers are absorbing it. The guy is already a legend on here
– maybe not in the media or less-informed Yanks fans though.
What a great swing. Just unbelievable.
That pitch was a mistake pitch – but to hit it out most guys would have had to try to pull the ball.
Alex just stays on the ball, keeps himself closed until the last minute and still has the power to hit it out to right center.
He really has an all time great swing.
“i suppose if the yankees put carl crawford in left field hey could carry cervelli’s weak bat, but where is montero and romine in your scenario ?
romine is a very good young catcher too.”
Cervalli is already proving at ML lelvel.
We do not know about Romine yet. He is a prospect, just that until he proves at ML level.
If Cervelli continues to improve his hitting, he will be prefered.
Regarding Montero, obviously at this time Yankees prefer him to be the future catcher. If he proves his defense Catcher will be his to keep. If not, he may land up being the backup catcher and DH.
We won thhree world series with Girardi who was a weak hitting catcher. Cervelli kind of resembles him in his performance.
Jeter with a HR, NJ with 2 walks, Tex with a hit, ARod HR, Posada on fire, Granderson, etc
if the bats all get hot in this lineup at the same time, opposing teams will have hell to pay.
it’s scary…
that WB commercial is just, bad
“could carry cervelli’s weak bat, but where is montero and romine in your scenario”
————–
the depth the Yankees have at the catcher position is unreal.
They really only need 1 guy to “make it” and they’ve done well for themselves.
If they have 2,3, or 4 quality major league catchers in their system, they will be in tremendous shape.
My favorite stat of the day.
Brett Gardner, despite slugging his batting avg (both .280) and and not being in the starting line-up for 3 of the first 11 games is on pace (I know, small sample size) to score 142 runs and steal 89 bases.
You really have to throw out slugging when you try to evaluate his worth.
“it’s hard not to like the guy but until or unless he completes a full season or two, I think we should keep expectations low. As long as he is solid behind the plate, he is giving the Yankees exactly what they need him to give. ”
truer words have never been spoken
the fact is the yankees are loaded at the catcher position organizationally .
cervelli is going to have a very nice mlb career, but it’s way too soon to be thinking of him taking over for posada.
for some reason cervelli has only had 708 total at bats in 5 minor league seasons.
romine already has had 874 at bats, montero has had 1012 at bats.
now maybe cervelli wasn’t given a chance to hit before and he’s a late bloomer. that’s why having him complete a full season or two is the way to go.
there is no downside to having cervelli, montero, and romine all being capable of starting in the major leagues if that happens.
i just don’t want to hear non stop chatter develop about cervelli bumping posada out before his time when the fact is that cervelli is not even close to being ready to start at catcher for the yankees.
he’s exactly where he should be right now and doing a great job.
I think the team is feeding off each other, and it’s a ~B E A U T I F U L ~ sight to see bring on the pies.
Thames would have been standing around there anyway.
Oh well.
there goes the shutout
This makes me happy… I saw all but one of the Andy Pettite Sunday Sweep Specials last season, and it looks like my first game (tomorrow) will start right where I left off
RS, I feel bad for the Texas pitchers also. I don’t ever find it really enjoyable to see the opposition get beat to a pulp.
*************
ben, Cervelli seems to have made an impression on Girardi. I remember him saying last season that he considered Cervelli an excellent defensive catcher but was also impressed with his hitting ability.
Anyway, we’ve seen him pulling his weight with the bat in his first two games this season. he certainly hasn’t been an offensive liability to the team.
People forget that one of Billy Martin’s favorite plays with runners on 1st and 3rd is to have the runner on 1st to start to steal 2nd base and go down 3/4ths of the way and stop and have the runner on 3rd break for home as soon as the throw goes through.
I’ve said it before, if a team can’t at least 7 runs against the Yankees this season, they have no chance to win. What an offense this team has, and it’s not even clicking on all cylinders.
Frustrating Patience at the plate: Johnson & Swisher
Power: Tex, A-Rod, Cano, Posada
Speed on the bases: Jeter, Granderson, Gardner
It’s going to be a great season.
YankeesInk Bot 4th. A-Rod’s homer snaps his 41 at bat homer-less stretch. It’s also going to force several sportswriters to find a new story angle.
When will Burnett learn to just pound the zone and get quick outs with big leads?
It is a little surprising that you rarely ever hear Montero’s name in the NY media, especially when the Mets’ Ike Davis has been talked about for hours. I guess that’s what happens when one team is itching for new blood and the other team is just cruising along with the players they have already.
Poor Ike Davis, though. Mets fans are already looking at him to be a savior, while Montero will probably be our #8 or #9 hitter when he first gets called up
“little late”
Way late on the fastball
Rodriguez is on a short list of players that can hit a baseball as hard and as far to the opposite field as he does when he pulls the pitch.
“Ron Washington must be on crack to pull his starter in the bottom of the third with only 2 runs in.”
Was that pun intended ?
Yeah, whatever, we yanks still got no pitching
IDK why but when John Flaherty insults Michael Kay I find myself gleeful.
I am so impressed with this version of AJ. There was a time that two runners on base would be surefire disaster for him. (I know he’s not out of the inning yet)
Does anyone remember Ted Lilly and the 5th inning blues. I think it was the 5th for Ted. I think Andy also went through that for a short while and the 5th inning was his bugaboo. After a while I think it almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
“RS, I feel bad for the Texas pitchers also. I don’t ever find it really enjoyable to see the opposition get beat to a pulp.”
And the Rangers are quite a likeable team. I’m rooting for either them or the A’s to win the West.
didn’t know AJ had such a good sinker
This guy should be struck out already. Grr
” just don’t want to hear non stop chatter develop about cervelli bumping posada out before his time when the fact is that cervelli is not even close to being ready to start at catcher for the yankees.”
Randy,
Not sure if you are refering to my post.
I never said Cervelli will replace Posada.
I was refering to 2012 when Posada’s current contract expires.
With young guys Montero, Romine and Cervelli in the system, I do not see Posada being the starting catcher in 2012 with his age for a catcher.
If not for the umpire, AJ would have been out of this inning already.
7-4
AJ ! Great job getting out of the bases loaded situation. Guys, I just came back – how’s he looking out there?
You’re welcome.
This is shaping up to be a Boone Logan/Sergio Mitre cameo type day…
Well it was AJ’s highest pitch inning 22, bases loaded but no runs scored!
Betsy,
The first four innings he was pretty dominant. This was his first jam of the game. He has looked good so far.
Some people look forward to a A-Rod homerun, I’m waiting for a Brett Gardner bunt this inning…
Texas very aggressive with 1 out and the bases juiced, resulting in 2 sky balls……Good movement ( strike zone ) for AJ today……
7-0
I do no tthink we will see Boone Logan today, given the score and the fact he pitched 27 pitches day before yesterday.
Jerkface, I still sort of post at NYFans (and so do you, lol), but it doesn’t compare to this place in terms of knowledgable posters, etc. I really think many of the posters there don’t like the organization – they’re always “ruining” players.
The Yankees are piling up on infield hits this series.
Jeter, Cano, Granderson, Teixeira, Gardner have all had one.
Didn’t know that, thanks BBfan.
I’m waiting for a Brett Gardner bunt this inning…
Stuckey
I agree. But maybe Texas would not think highly of bunting with a 7 run lead.
“Texas very aggressive with 1 out and the bases juiced, resulting in 2 sky balls……”
Quite a contrast to the pinstripes discipline.
Granted, I think they basically have concluded that AJ has such good stuff today that they might as well just go up their and try to hit the first fastball in the zone because they’ll be better off than waiting for AJ to get ahead…
But I think they’d be better off trying to make AJ work more.
Tough situation for the Rangers.
Tar,
Ha, yeah, you’re right. I have to stop working, watching and trying to keep up here all at the same time.
Anymore predictions from the Red Sox fans in here?
I’d be more concerned about Team Run Prevention than the Yankees.
RS,
Unless Ike Davis can slot into the #3 spot in their rotation, Mets fans are looking at the wrong place for a savior.
Once Beltran gets back, their lineup is more than good enough in the NL.
Nobody is going to compete with the Phillies offense over the next couple years in the NL East (or the entire NL) so it’s going to come down to a little luck, defense, and pitching anyway.
The Mets have gotten themselves in trouble with a weak starting 5 and no MLB ready pitching “saviors” (that I know of) on the horizon.
Laffo 3 infield hits for Gardner
LOVE IT!!
Great game to this point for Gardner, creating runs!!!
SAFE!!
haha, chop it and run fast.
RS, thanks!
Um, so who said “there goes the shut out”?
SJ44 – but look how old and slow we are today… lol
Ahem.
Livan.
Unbelievable. The minute Gardner beat the ball into the ground you just knew he was going to be safe.
When was the last time someone was 4-4 without getting the ball out of the infield.
It would have to be Ichiro I guess….
If only Gardner had “pulled a Melky” and slid into the base, he would have been…. out.
all of a sudden gardner is hitting .318…the madness!
Hopefully AJ can have an easy inning in the 6th as his pitch count is up..
Jeter making a mockery of GB%
This is weird….
Gardner – .308
this is insane… texas hoping for more rain to keep the score down?
Here comes NJ again with bases loaded.
Will it be walk or a hit ?
Andrus is such a terrific defensive SS. He saved a run there.
SJ44,
The Rangers would probably settle for “Team Pitching and Defense” right about now
they are in shambles in the field the past 2 days.
Will it be walk or a hit ?
An infield hit. LOL
The hit/distance ratio is being demolished.
“Unless Ike Davis can slot into the #3 spot in their rotation, Mets fans are looking at the wrong place for a savior.”
Agree about the Mets pitching, but their offense has not really been good either. Their hitters get on base just fine, but the whole team is just brutal w/RISP. In 2008 and 2009 the Mets were 29th in hitting with the bases loaded, and this year they are dead last. They just can’t get the big hits when they need them (in one game against the Marlins they scored 6 runs without the benefit of a hit).
Nick??
how dare you swing the bat!!!
Somebody was just saying yesterday on here that Gardy was at .217
How much does Sterling wish the Yankees had a player named Elvis. The HR call writes itself.
“Jeter making a mockery of GB%”
He tried pulling that pitch into the hole. I’d guess Andrus was pinching in to bird dog granderson.
He also intentionally pulled that pitch he hit out to left.
I get the sense this year that Jeter may feel that teams are overlaying him to go to RF.
He’s turned on a few pitches where it’s clear that he had no intention of even trying to inside out the ball.
Anyone counting how many infield hits the Yankees have so far this game?
CB:
Using the Play Index I found this game by Ichiro
http://www.baseball-reference......5250.shtml
4 for 4, single to the pitcher, single to 1b, single to 2b, but then… single to CF ! Close
Nick Nick Nick, I was expecting a walk.
Can’t say I’m lovin the “Minny & Paul” sign at Target.
Five infield hits.
Jerkface,
Nice sleuthing! If anyone has gone 4 for 4 on all infield hits it would have to be the magician in Seattle.
I bet he’s done that at least once in his career.
53 years ago today in Washington, against left hander Chuck Stobbs, a legend is born.
http://www.themick.com/10homers.html#Home Run #1
“Agree about the Mets pitching, but their offense has not really been good either.”
————-
RS,
I agree. But at least there are “excuses” for that with the injuries they’ve sustained.
Reyes seems healthy and once Beltran returns they have a formidable lineup especially for the NL. They still have holes in their lineup but it’s good enough.
At one point, John Maine looked like he might be a good starter but now he looks lost. Oliver Perez is awful for a couple games and then throws a good one.
Even Johan is starting to become a question mark.
Not a good time to be a Mets fan. And I don’t feel sorry for them at all…. I remember not that long ago Mets fans declaring themselves “the best team in NY” back when the Mets were having some mild success.
what’s the record for most infield hits by a team in a game? Jerkface?
“Not sure if you are refering to my post.
I never said Cervelli will replace Posada.
I was refering to 2012 when Posada’s current contract expires.”
bbfan-
no, just leery of all the craziness last summer with the posada bashing and can see at times how thin his support is at times from some yankee fans.
i’d like to see him finish his career really strong and make a run at the hall of fame.
having a good back up like cervelli will only help that, but it doesn’t help if there is talk of personal catching with the back up displacing jorge before he’s ready to hang em up.
so far, there is just a segment of uninformed fans that leans in this direction .
hopefully girardi nips it in the bud and has cervelli catch the whole staff which is what girardi has said.
it scares me that flaherty doesn’t understand the impact of having a 4th pitch, even if you don’t need to use it.
“Five infield hits.”
———–
I’m loving the Yanks team speed this year.
Guys like Damon and Abreu could steal bases but I feel like Gardy and Granderson are legit base stealers, who could run every time they get on base, and (I think?) it’s been a while since the Yanks had two of those in the starting lineup.
Flaherty is right. AJ really should work on his change up in this game.
His change up is so good. And the thing is – when he makes a mistake with it he doesn’t often hang the pitch. It’s usually in the dirt or misses low in the zone.
Okay, so do you send him out for the 7th? Cap him at 115?
I don’t feel sorry for the Mets because they did it to themselves. Wilpon gave the reins over to his son, who knows nothing about baseball. They treated Willie like a non-person; I’ve never seen a manager or coach treated like that. They let Delgado run that clubhouse. I don’t want to hear what a nice guy he is – he didn’t put out an effort until Willie was gone. That’s a great notion to inculcate among the younger players – just give the effort if you feel like it. Omar says now that 1/3 in St. Louis is acceptable, setting the bar very low for his team. They have good players, but there is a losing culture over there – the Mets are one giant black cloud. That said, they clearly have a few promising minor leaguers that are nearly ML-ready.
“I get the sense this year that Jeter may feel that teams are overlaying him to go to RF.
He’s turned on a few pitches where it’s clear that he had no intention of even trying to inside out the ball.”
cb-
i get the feeling that jeter is a lot smarter hitter than he’s given credit for ( if that’s possible because he’s been so good).
he doesn’t have great hitter natural talent or a great swing mechanically, but he really seems to understand hitting . it’s like you could send him up there with one arm broken and he’d figure out a way to get a hit.
“hopefully girardi nips it in the bud and has cervelli catch the whole staff which is what girardi has said”
I agree.
I am pretty sure next turn, Cervelli will not catch Sabathia
I wouldn’t treat AJ like a baby – he’s proven, I think, that he’s a sound pitcher. I don’t think he’s any more at risk than anyone else.
I take it AJ hasn’t thrown many changes? Well, he’s doing fine with what he has, so I have no problem with it. I’m not sure he should throw it just for the sake of throwing it (same with Phil, although he had a reason for not throwing it).
16 pitch inning and no still runs! When AJ throws his sinker, the Ump always calls it a ball.
The Yanks starters have held one of the better offenses in the league to 1 run over the last 12 innings.
Considering the NYS is supposed to be a hitter’s park, that’s no small feat.
Nice job by CC and AJ.
The yankees all winter long said they were concerned about the innings and duration their top 3 had to pitch last year and the effect that could have on the team this year.
If that’s the case – then AJ shouldn’t come out for the 7nth. As it is the bull pen can use some work.
So what’s going on the last two games – is it our great starting pitching, or the Rangers’ lousy hitting?
Testing
BD-
Don’t quote me on this, but maybe Mick the Quick Rivers and Willie Randolph.
So far, so good for AJ; I’m really happy with how he’s thrown the ball these past couple of starts – and he hasn’t had the big blow up inning, either.
“Flaherty is right.”
Not listening much today, but John F. did not bother me last night. Which is a big improvement.
“If that’s the case – then AJ shouldn’t come out for the 7nth. As it is the bull pen can use some work.”
—————–
no doubt.
let AJ leave with a shutout, get the pen some work, and go to bed tonight with a smile and an 8-3 record.
Logan for the 7th
Mitre for the 8th and 9th
Mitre has to pitch sometime, right?
He’s going out.
stuckey good question. If you believe what Girardi said about pulling CC during the potential no hitter (which I didn’t believe for a minute by the way) then you would expect to see AJ be done for the day.
I have no idea what Girardi is going to do. I’m ambivalent. I’m thinking that he could have the 7th but no more than that. No way would I let him try for the CGS unless he was able to get hitters to ground or fly out on the first or second pitch each batter.
Cano for 4
Mark Teixeira has such complicated mechanics to his swing. His swing is just so dependent on perfect timing. He really doesn’t have a lot fault tolerance in his swing in terms of timing.
It’s just something you have to live with. But these starts to his season are very painful. It just takes him so many reps to get his timing down in season.
I’m fine with him going out – he doesn’t have to finish the inning. I would have someone warming up, though.
I agree with Y 27 – with a 7 run lead, don’t fool around. Let AJ get some rest and give the relievers their work
“Don’t quote me on this, but maybe Mick the Quick Rivers and Willie Randolph.”
————–
hehe, perhaps… but that was 30+ years ago!
they had Rickey Henderson in the 80′s but I don’t think they had another legit 30SB guy at that time (Randolph was less of a runner by then)
Gritty’s value will be measured in runs created and his speed game.
I said bak in Dec./Jan. that if given 500PA that I thought Gardner’s line would look something like;
.280-.290avg
.370+ obp
100runs
55sbs
65rbis
15triples
28 doubles
if he can give us that from the #9 hole and a great glove in the OF then he will be an extremely valuable cog in the machine that is the ’10 Yanks
It’s a great Saturday afternoon when the Yankees are winning and the voices or Buck & McCarver are not heard.
I’m with CB.
I don’t know why AJ needs to keep going here unless they really feel he needs to be stretched out.
This is a perfect situation to let some of the backend bullpen guys get some work and keep everybody fresh.
I have been in and out of this game – another contractor visit.
Gardner’s having a good day, no?
On another topic, if you click on my name, I’ve done a little housekeeping on the GTLU page of my blog. I’ve consolidated the Standings and the Rules on the same page, and if you click my name it will take you directly to that page, so you don’t have to navigate to it. Also, I’ve added winning percentages in the standings. Players are still ranked according to number of wins, but I’ve included a column for number of games played and winning percentage. Right now the standings include everyone who has won at least one game.
If you visit, let me know if it makes sense. Thanks.
Also, I can do GTLU tomorrow morning (Sunday).
“I agree.
I am pretty sure next turn, Cervelli will not catch Sabathia”
I agree too BBFan. Every Yankee pitcher should be allowed to witness the joy of having Cervelli catch his game.
How much do you bet Johan regrets not waiting for FA? He made a rash decision and look how it turned out
CB, it appears to me that from the left side Texeria is opening up too soon especially on fastballs……He’s just a tad off with his timing, however he’s a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode……Both he and Alex are going to have a very good western swing……I’m bummed out that Young Master Hughes will not be making an appearance on the western swing
Randy’s son, Livan has a 4 hit shutout through 8 innings going against Milwaukee.
Brandon Lyon almost blowing the game for the Astros in the 8th.
The Astros signing of Lyon could end up being the worst of this offseason (and there were some really bad signings, IMO).
7-0 lead is hardly insurmountable.
If it was 13-1 or something, that is different because you have a ton of margin to work with. Rangers are just a few runs away from making us use MO and/or Joba or Robertson. We had a 7-1 lead in the 9th inning the other day and we had to use Mariano.
And if they face Logan/Mitre for 3 innings, I don’t think they’ll have too much trouble scoring.
How many pitches has AJ thrown?
This should be A.J.’s last inning of work.
Jeter misses another grounder going to his left.
Pat M, Phil should be pitching in Oakland; he’s not being skipped. Where did you read that he’s not pitching in CA?
Why is Burnett still in there ????? Giradi has gone deep with his starters already this season ???? CB , any ideas ???
I would be very annoyed if Phil were being skipped because now he needs to be able to get in a groove.
Is Jeter supposed to get to every ball? Why is it a big deal with him and not any other SS?
“I’m bummed out that Young Master Hughes will not be making an appearance on the western swing”
I thought they weren’t skipping him?
“How much do you bet Johan regrets not waiting for FA? He made a rash decision and look how it turned out”
—————-
Johan got a huge contract that he might not have gotten if he waited a year… you just never know.
I doubt he is that unhappy, though sure, he’d like to be on a contender.
Betsy, I meant in Anaheim , my mistake
great outing by AJ
Watching them touch each other (get over it okay) actually brought tears to my eyes. When I think of the prickly relationship they had with each other, this is something beautiful to behold.
Great game by AJ.
Wow, nice play!!!
111 pitches isn’t THAT much……….and let’s give some kudos to AJ, please, who takes more than his share of grief.
Pat M.,
He does look worse from the left side. He’s definitely going to go off… but it is a painful process until take off…
Tex doesn’t have a great swing. He’s very complicated up there at the plate. It makes him prone to getting under or over the ball pretty easily. It’s why he can look so bad against good off speed pitches.
But he’ll snap out of it. These first months really do knock down his seasonal production, however. May make it very difficult for him to win an MVP.
I’m fine with letting him go. Yanks need to start expecting a strong 7 from Burnett and he expecting it from himself.
Would up ending his day on even a better note than the 6th.
What a great pick by Tex, he is so valuable even when he isn’t hitting.
?How much do you bet Johan regrets not waiting for FA? He made a rash decision and look how it turned out?
Only if you believe in Michael Kay’s fallacy of the predetermined outcome. Nothing says that things would have turned out any better if he had waited. There’s just no way of knowing.
111 pitches isn’t that much and both, Kay and Flaherty need to relax here.
AJ ‘s lowest pitched inning 12, He’s at 111 total should be done for the day.
Pat M, I’m sorry for you and Phil’s family – that would have been exciting. Hey, are you going to come to NY this year? You can plan a trip around Young Master Phil’s schedule, lol. Seriously – if you do, let me know; I’d love to meet you at YS.
One reason I was fine with AJ in the 7th is because the Rangers are a very dangerous team and I don’t trust Mitre.
“If you visit, let me know if it makes sense. Thanks.”
Doreen, it looks very good. Thanks for all of your work on GTLU!!
Betsy,
I think it’s more that the Yankees would like to lessen the workload on their top 3 starters this year.
They all threw a ton of innings last year with the postseason (AJ threw 234 innings last year).
If you have a big lead, there’s no shame in pulling a guy after 6 innings and 99 pitches.
Not to mention, the bullpen didn’t pitch last night and they have guys who could use a couple innings to stay fresh.
It worked out and it’s certainly not a big deal, but if the Yankees expect to make the playoffs again this season (as they should), it wouldn’t hurt to keep their innings down when possible.
Tex is the best defensive first baseman we’ve had since Donny Baseball, no?
“I’m fine with letting him go. Yanks need to start expecting a strong 7 from Burnett and he expecting it from himself.”
Also, maybe Joe took into account the fact that (relatively speaking) it was a very low stress game for AJ.
Maybe Girardi is letting the starters get some extra length in now in cooler weather for those times when when the bullpen is being taxed. That’s a long west coast roadtrip coming up agaist a couple of tough teams.
Cano needs to hit his next AB or blow his 10 game hit streak.
It was an easy 111 pitches, not worried about that.
I agree, Craw. I really can’t deal with Michael Kay anymore. I think he’s a nice guy, but boy – he’s a whiner. From his issues with Phil, to his nitpicking on Granderson – ugh.
“Why is Burnett still in there ????? Giradi has gone deep with his starters already this season ???? ”
Pat M.,
I don’t know. I would have taken him out. If they are up big I think they should shave off innings from CC, Andy and AJ’s workloads.
But if I had to guess, I think Girardi was probably figuring AJ looks strong and with a 7-0 lead it’s a good situation to stretch him out and build his arm strength early in the season under controlled circumstances.
Often times after winning a world series a team’s staff can suffer the next season. I rather they save innings with the top 3 guys, but it’s not a big deal.
If you can’t trust your bullpen to hold a 7-0 lead in the 7th innings, you have problems.
This isn’t the Red Sox bullpen we’re talking about, it’s the Yankees
BD, I agree – but I don’t think today needed to be that day.
BD, that’s true……….but I still don’t have a problem with it. I don’t believe AJ was stressing out this game; he really only had one problem inning. In general, I agree with you……..
It looks like Cano’s not gettiong another chance to keep his streak going
“hehe, perhaps… but that was 30+ years ago!”
Guess I’m dating myself a bit.
BBFan April 17th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
I agree.
I am pretty sure next turn, Cervelli will not catch Sabathia
____________________________________________
I wouldn’t be too sure, since CC’s next start is scheduled to be a day game after a night game (Thurs in OAK; I plan to be there).
Plenty of time to rest guys in September when we are cruising.
# Nick in SF April 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Ahem.
Livan.
CGSHO. Roy Halladay who?
Innings thrown (with playoffs) in 2009:
CC – 266
AJ – 234
Pettitte – 226
CC threw 256 innings in both 2007 and 2008. What a workhorse!
Was it mentioned in here that todays trivia question asked what 2 players had 1000 hits in each league?
Their answer was Winfield and Guerrerro.
I thought they were wrong. Anyone know another?
Let’s remember that our top three starters have been getting an extra day rest this month due to so many off-days. Let’s relax and just enjoy the game.
Thanks, Dave F.
The first and last thing I will say about Cervelli is that the Yankees are lucky to have such a very good defensive backup catcher who seems to have a knack for getting timely hits and who can run.
Not to mention an endearing accent and great eyes!
Good game for AJ, what I’ve seen. Getting out of that bases loaded situation? Nice!
It would seem the Yankees have passed the first test of their young season – 4 contending teams in a row, taking the series from each of them.
Next test is the west coast run, right?
Watching them touch each other (get over it okay) actually brought tears to my eyes. When I think of the prickly relationship they had with each other, this is something beautiful to behold.
———
Good lord you’re mental
Burnett didn’t appear to be overly stressed even in the 7th inning. I don’t see it as a big deal.
Betsy, I’ll be in NYC right after the All-Star break, and then again in October ( 7-11 ) and I’ll return later that month for the World Series……..CB, one real attribute that Tex brings, is regardless of how he’s going at the plate, he still is Gold with the mitt
Betsy -
I think Kay has developed the demeanor of his radio show callers. I guess whining is contagious.
Also, I don’t think Girardi wants to use more than two pitchers today and stated yesteday, he wants to limit Aceves outings to 2 innings with Park out.
Mick Frank Robinson maybe?
Frank Robinson ????
I’m also trying out Firefox.
They’ll also have an off -day on Monday, so each starter gets an extra day of rest.
7 Ks for AJ and only 2 walks? Not only is AJ a lot calmer, but his walk total is down.
Pat, ok great – if you want to meet up, let me know. I’ll have to buy a #65 shirt to go with my #34 shirt.
GB7,
definitely not a big deal. I never doubted AJ could handle the 7th..
I’m just wonder if they should be looking for ways to keep the starters’ innings down when they can. If they can’t, so be it.
It’s a safe assumption that the Yanks will be in the playoff race and if you can avoid consecutive 230-250 inning seasons for your top guys, you might as well do it.
not a big deal though…
AJ has looked very compact for him this year in his wind up. Very controlled and streamlined.
Even when he’s gotten in some trouble he’s stayed relaxed and focused and bore down on the hitter rather than getting preoccupied with the runner.
He’s been terrific this year so far.
He’s looked very much like he did down the stretch for the Jays in 2008 when he was so good closing out the season.
Don’t the starters get an extra days rest coming up?
Doreen, Kay has whining down to a fine art now; he’s painful to listen to. He’s still upset that Joba is in the pen.
7-0 lead and Aceves walks Guerrero?
“I thought they were wrong. Anyone know another?”
My guess was Griffey, but he is only 900 + in the NL.
Its Frank Robinson
“one real attribute that Tex brings, is regardless of how he’s going at the plate, he still is Gold with the mitt”
—————
speaking of the Red Sox paradigm of “Team Pitching and Defense” -
the Yanks infield D isn’t too shabby.
and that pitching staff is looking as good as ever… I’m especially happy with the way Andy has started the season.
Once Vazquez warms up, the Yanks will be putting 5 tough starters out there.
“Good lord you?re mental”
Nice
Good job, Aceves.
I saw that coming. Aceves doesn’t look good today.
Boo
Darn Girardi… you idiot! you should have let AJ pitch the 8th
I miss Chopper.
Sheesh, one more run and it’s a Mo game……….
Time to bring Mo in.
Let’s go Mo.
aceves looked really bad that outing….hopefully its just lack of work
Aceves didn’t have any command and his fastball looked really slow today.
Well, out of character for Aceves, but at least it wasn’t a scrub who hit it.
What a pitiful bullpen we have !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lack of work, he pitched on Wednesday. I don’t think it’s lack of work.
Frank Robinson indeed. How could YES and Kay, for that matter, not see that?
Experts, shmexperts.
After that first game in boston the usual, yearly panic developed about the yankees bull pen.
They only have one reliable pitcher besides Mo, etc. The usual.
The yankees pen is fine but one of the issues the pen is likely going to have to deal with this year is lack of use.
The yankees staff is going to give them a lot of length. And the bull pen is very deep and has several guys who can go multiple innings.
And lack of use seems to particularly affect Aceves. He’s a feel pitcher and when he doesn’t get used regularly he seems to have problems with his command.
Seems like Aceves has been rather erratic this year……..I don’t know if teams have caught up with him, but he’s not close to being the same pitcher he was in the first half of last yaer.
well, the silver lining is that they could afford to have Aceves throw a dud today with a 7-0 lead.
If Aceves had just done that with a 4-1 lead, we’d all be pretty ticked off right now.
This way, Aceves knows he needs to pitch better and work on things, and the Yanks are still extremely likely to win the game.
He’s correcting it now. They must be reading us.
3 run homeruns, grand slams, it seems like the bullpen is giving up those every single game.
Where does our bullpen rank in terms of ERA?
I bet it ranks dead last now.
Unfortunately then, that’s going to be a problem because Yankee starters are generally going to give length.
And I thought we have a good bullpen this year.
Nice, Marte……….one more.
Maybe that’s why he’s dropping the pretentious “aforementioned” in the Yankee disclaimer.
Kay definitely reads this blog.
And Texas is not back in this game at 7-3. Always thinking of the ratings.
We do have a good pen, but it’s not perfect – but whose is?
“do I have to quote Girardi here?”
“If you believe what Girardi said about pulling CC during the potential no hitter (which I didn’t believe for a minute by the way)”
So Girardi only tells the truth when he agrees with you?
Should have been caught.
The yankees have one of the three best bull pens in the AL. Arguably the best.
Their bull pen pitchers just aren’t getting regular work because the staff has been so good.
Aceves never pitched out of the bull pen until last year. It’s probably not the best role for him.
Hopefully the media will take notice that AJ can be lights out with Posada behind the plate
Good job, Marte….
boo,
there aren’t very many teams in the majors who don’t have to worry about how the #6 and #7 guys in their bullpen will do.
This bullpen will be just fine.
I do know this…. whatever their bullpen ERA is, it’s better than it was in April in 2009… you know… when they won the World Series.
it will be just fine.
Everyone’s entitled to a bad day. Our bullpen is more than fine
thats the kind of play gardner isnt used to in lf…in cf you dont have to make catches like that
If Marcus Thames just dropped the ball Gardner did we’d never hear the end of it…
A truly elite defender does not drop that ball.
Pitchers have bad days, maybe it was that type of day for Aceves.
Good job by Marte.
I didn’t realize that about Aceves, CB……….
Jason, don’t count on it. When they struggle together, it’s a big deal; when they don’t, it’s not news. However, the only thing that matters is AJ pitching well again…………
Gardner with a case of “Abreuitis”. It’s not the first time this year he has been tentative with the wall.
CB April 17th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
After that first game in boston the usual, yearly panic developed about the yankees bull pen.
They only have one reliable pitcher besides Mo, etc. The usual.
===========================================
Boston’s pen should be questioned. Okijima is not as effective as he was, Schoenweis and Atchison have proven nothing. Del Carmen is overrated. Papelbon is well he aint Mo.
Carl Crawford would have caught that with his cap.
The Yanks bullpen currently
ranks 17th in the Majors.
“Hopefully the media will take notice that AJ can be lights out with Posada behind the plate”
No chance. They’ve already moved on to the “promising” pseudo-controversy of CC and Posada having problems behind the plate.
There are so many permutations of senseless stories that a back up catcher allows for with a twelve man staff.
“So Girardi only tells the truth when he agrees with you? ”
———–
See: my last post. Enough said..
Aceves was figured out in the 2nd half of last year… this is just a continuation of that. He also wasn’t great in the Spring after teams started playing their regulars more.
“The yankees have one of the three best bull pens in the AL. Arguably the best.”
——————-
that is just scary. this offense, a good rotation, and a top bullpen?? yikes.
as most of us know, building a solid bullpen isn’t the easiest thing to do.
The fact that much of the pen is with homegrown guys is telling – free agent bullpen arms are risky business and expensive.
Dang I was hoping for a fourth infield hit, he almost got it too
almost 4-4
Okijima is not as effective as he was
——–
LOLL
His ERA is 2.08
anyone worried about anything about the Yankees needs to get a life. they are cruising to the division title and the AL pennant.
Jason, they would have to notice it. You know that despite AJ telling Kim Jones that he was not going to answer any more questions about his relationship with Jorge, invariably someone from the press will bring it up somehow, if not to AJ, then to Jorge. Since they spent so much time on it last season (and legitimately so) they would be highly hypocritical not to give the situation the same kind of coverage. Even if they don’t get quotes from either of the players, they have eyes. They SHOULD talk about the turnaorund.
Mick,
Boston’s pen is not great by any means despite all the hub bub before the season.
They have really big holes there. They had to use Bard in 5 of their first 6 games. Gammons yestday was already conceding that they would likely need to make a trade to fill out the pen.
They don’t have any guys in the high minors who can step into the pen. They don’t have great pitching depth in the minors.
I don’t know why they just let Saito leave without even trying to sign him.
The big media controversy after Thursday was why Phil didn’t use his change up; now it’s CC and Cervelli. The media continues to live down to my expectations; is there any good sportswriter in NY? OK, Marc Carig – but I think he’s about it.
“Okijima is not as effective as he was
——–
LOLL
His ERA is 2.08″
——————–
Okajima is still a very good guy to have in the pen. But it’s still fair to say that he’s not as effective as he once was.
When he first came to the Sox he shocked everyone and was an elite bullpen arm.
Now he’s just a good bullpen arm. Nothing wrong with that, but technically he isn’t as hard to hit as he originally was.
The yankees have one of the three best bull pens in the AL. Arguably the best.
———
Instead of looking at the numbers, are you going by self-manufactured stats. from a fantasy parallel universe?
Patrick: best not to go there.
Wait til the postseason when the media jumps on the CC-Cervelli thing. It looks like he will be his catcher for most of the season.
Wait for the “Can CC and Jorge work together” train?
If Marcus Thames just dropped the ball Gardner did we’d never hear the end of it…
A truly elite defender does not drop that ball.
–
Marcus Thames would have never gotten close to that ball.
chris D it’s too early to look at stats of a bullpen and make any determinations. The folks on here saying that the Yankees have a great bullpen are looking at past performance.
I think another thing in favor of the Yankees having a good bullpen is that they have 4 guys in the rotation virtually assured to throw 200 innings or more. Sabathia and Vazquez especially are incredibly consistent and will help take a lot of stress off the pen.
Did Joba not pour water on his face when he started?
Hmmmmmmm
http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.....38;month=0
Joba better get these 3 outs easily
can’t bring in MO into a game where we had a 7-0 lead in the 8th inning…
Yeah thats the exact point im making. Its just crazy how nothing is said when they work so well together.
“Boston’s pen is not great by any means despite all the hub bub before the season. ”
——————
The Sox really need Okajima and Ramon Ramirez to be solid. Those are the x-factors IMO.
Papelbon will be good (whether or not he returns to being elite is unknown) and I see no reason why Bard can’t be a great setup man.
Of course, it will come down to the starters ability to throw 7 innings most games.
they will be in trouble if they need to rely on Manny Delcarmen and Scott Atchison to throw important innings.
“Instead of looking at the numbers, are you going by self-manufactured stats.”
you mean as opposed to using numbers from 10 games. LOL
Jesus….what is Girardi doing? he’s burning through his bullpen. He doesn’t know how to manage a pitching staff.
Sorry, I was feeling left out and got carried away.
by fangraph, including today’s game, the yanks bullpen is about middle of the pack at best.
Let’s go Joba- let’s have a nice, easy inning.
We all know the nature of the media is to whine.
Why were all we were hearing today was how bad the Mets are and not how good the Yanks are?
Bad news sells. We all know that. If we were in the business we would have to play that game, if we wanted ratings. Let’s get real, people love to watch and hear about disasters.
“by fangraph, including today’s game, the yanks bullpen is about middle of the pack at best.”
——————-
they’ve played 11 games.
last April, the Yanks had the worst bullpen in the majors.
Yet, their bullpen was perhaps the best in the game over the 2nd half of 2009..
“Marcus Thames would have never gotten close to that ball.”
I think Marcus Thames is an awful defensive player – but it’s not like Gardner was sprinting for that ball.
Gardner obviously has orders of magnitude more range than Thames. But it’s not accurate to just dismiss every ball Gardern almost makes a play on as automatically being one that Thames couldn’t hope to make.
He was running tentatively towards the wall. That was not a difficult play to make and should have been made – especially by a guy who is being compared to Carl Crawford by some yankee fans and is routinely described as an “elite” defender.
That was not a difficult play to make. It may be due to Gardner’s lack of experience in LF but that still doesn’t change the fact that the play should have been made.
“Joba better get these 3 outs easily
can’t bring in MO into a game where we had a 7-0 lead in the 8th inning…”
agree. if so, that’s a total failure on Joba
Joba will not go 1-2-3 here.
He pitches better under pressure, the sign of a good reliever.
“So Girardi only tells the truth when he agrees with you?
”
Sorry you didn’t get what I was trying to say the first time around. If you were the only other poster here I would spend a lot more time spelling everything out so there would be no question whatsoever.
It meant that if the poster didn’t believe what I was saying, perhaps hearing the same thing from a more “credible” source would convince him.
And so you don’t have to go and look to see what Patrick is talking about, he called me “mental” because I said I was touched by the interaction between Jorge and AJ when Jorge went out to the mound. They were very tactile with each other and I thought it was beautiful to witness, based on where they had been with each other at other times.
uh oh, another 30 pitch inning for Joba?
“Joba will not go 1-2-3 here.”
————–
Joba needs to throw strikes.
he can’t walk guys here.
if he doesn’t, he’ll be fine.
man, I hate Minnesota.
why must Michael Kay keep using the word “schneid” – it just sounds ridiculous
Anyone calling Gardner an elite OFer is out of whack.
Talk about a small sample size.
Granderson tracks a ball much better than him.
why do you hate Minnesota?
Touching you….. touching me?
Kay is soooo obsessed with velocity…
Based on what does Joba pitch better under pressure?
“you mean as opposed to using numbers from 10 games. LOL”
It’s remarkable how so many baseball fans just misuse statistics. No one who has even the faintest understanding of mathematics would put any stock in these kinds of small samples early in the season.
The yankees pen is 7 men deep. They have multiple swing and miss arms in the pen. They have a great deal of youth. They have exerience They have a guy who is a plus left hander. They have
Love Joba.
“why do you hate Minnesota?”
————-
unless you’re talking about Favre and the Vikings…
geez, that’s a bad swing
joba fastball, is average at best today.
Rishi, Kay is still trying to make a name for himself, talk about insecure.
He’s always looking to coin a word or phrase that he can say he started.
Luckily he eventually drops it when he sees its not working like the “martini-glass” defense or describing the uniforms.
“Mark Teixeira has such complicated mechanics to his swing. His swing is just so dependent on perfect timing. He really doesn’t have a lot fault tolerance in his swing in terms of timing.”
cb-
in golf and baseball there are two pivot points on a swing and that’s because there is a weight shift from back to front. each foot is a pivot point.
teixeira has a unique swing. it looks there is a very small bottom to his arc when he swings. in golf , a golfer with a small bottom to their swing arc would tend to top the ball or hit the ball fat (behind the ball).
in golf,the cure is to move the arc forward so you hit the ball first and then the ground or to alter your swing mechanics so the bottom of your arc is longer through the ball. a lateral slide as you’re swinging accomplishes this.
teixeira doesn’t have much of a lateral slide as he stays on his back leg.
so he’s only going to have a small bottom to his arc when he hits a baseball. this takes really good timing or he’ll either top it or hit under the ball. a hitter with a more level swing where the bottom of the arc stays flatter much longer will not need the timing that teixeira needs.
i’m sure that kevin long knows this. teixeira has had so much success that you hate to mess with his swing. i think in the long run though, teixeira might want to figure out how to extend the time his swing arc bottoms out and stays level with the ball.
Based on my eyes.
mick April 17th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Rishi, Kay is still trying to make a name for himself, talk about insecure.
He?s always looking to coin a word or phrase that he can say he started.
Luckily he eventually drops it when he sees its not working like the ?martini-glass? defense or describing the uniforms.
========================================
Well – let’s hope he gets the message soon…he sounds like an idiot
Betsy, when Joba has come in with a good size lead, he hasn’t done as good a job as he does with either a smaller lead, or pitching the last inning.
It doesn’t really matter how “bad” his FB is today if he’s getting outs.
It’s not just Kay that’s obsessed with velocity; Chad reports on Joba’s velocity all the time.
“# mick April 17th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Joba will not go 1-2-3 here.”
—————
need to add 3 letters –
Joba will NOT not go 1-2-3 here
well look at that Joba Chamberlain with a 1-2-3 inning
joba’s slider looked good that inning…8-3!
LOL @ Harlan
I was wrong…Joba 1-2-3, my bad.
Joba gets his fist pump from his dad lol
If Texas makes a player available to NYY in a deal, I wouldn’t mind seeing them pick up David Murphy.
Good thing they forgot to tell Chamberlain that he couldn’t get the Rangers in order. He never listens.
Heir? Apparently
Joba’s destiny defined
The Sandman’s scion
I don’t mean to say that Chad is obsessed with velocity, but he does report on it……….
Trish, most relievers are like that, especially late inning relievers.
Nice inning from Joba, great game from AJ and a terrific game all-around. It’s hard to believe, but I do think the Yankees are flying under the radar.
grats joe g 200 wins
“mick April 17th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Joba will not go 1-2-3 here.”
Thanks, Nostradamus!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRO2BXn7ns
Hi guys,
Back just in time to celebrate a Yankees victory. I listened on the radio. What a trip John and Suzyn are.
GB7,
I wouldn’t mind seeing David Murphy with a big hit for the Yanks against his former (original) team over in Boston
He’s definitely not a bad 4th OF.
“gyhu April 17th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
uh oh, another 30 pitch inning for Joba?”
Close: 19 pitches. 1-2-3.
gyhu fail.
Rishi April 17th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
why must Michael Kay keep using the word “schneid” – it just sounds ridiculous
————–
Oh, Rishi, I had the same thought. I guess it’s his favorite word of the day, but I know he said it the other day, too. Yuck.
“teixeira doesn’t have much of a lateral slide as he stays on his back leg.”
randy,
That’s a great analysis. The two pivot comparison to golf is exactly why compound pendulums make such useful models for both baseball and golf.
Tex generates power largely through loft. To generate that mechanical loft he almost collapses that back leg. He’s very much a back leg hitter.
One of the really stark contrasts in swing mechanics we saw during spring training was if you compared Tex to Montero. What a difference in hitting styles.
But given Tex’s mechanics and back leg dominance I think you just have to live with the problems. Tinkering with his swing could lead to big problems.
But as you described his mechanics are very dependent on his timing being on cue. It’s very easy for him to hit down or hit under the ball due to his swing arc.
Yahoo! Yankees are 8-3
I wish they play with Rangers all season long.
When will we see them again?
========================================
Well – let’s hope he gets the message soon…he sounds like an idiot
=============================================
Rishi
Hopefully he’ll read thru the blog tonight and get some pointers. He is letting up on the “aforementioned,” NY Yankee crap he coined. SEEEE Yaaaa!!
nothing wrong with reporting velocity
just understand that it’s not always the be-all-end-all.
(see: Farnsworth, Kyle)
it does matter, if joba has to come in with a 90 mph , is going to get crush.
joba the only reliever i even seen has this velocity being this off.
now i am certainly no expert or baseball guru.
but joba fastball command isn;t top notch nor has great movement
Fran, I can’t deal with them. I was in the car for a few minutes and my ears bled.
““teixeira doesn’t have much of a lateral slide as he stays on his back leg.””
————
I second that – good analysis randy.
Betsy, absolutely. Sometimes people get aggravated when a late-inning reliever comes in and gives up runs when there is a big lead, but they do have that mentality where the greater the pressure, the more effective they are.
This team is such a machine… it is getting kind of booring
Are we ever going to even be tested this year? Is there ever going to even be a little slump or some adversity? Jeez we are too good
Fair game by the HP umpire!
You can focus on the 90 mph fastballs, but I guess you missed the 94 mph pitches he threw today.
the only important number for Joba: outs.
now, go Cards!
LOL
Can we replace Kay with Vin Scully? Offer him a boat load of cash and his own TV show
“it does matter, if joba has to come in with a 90 mph , is going to get crush.”
————-
teddy, that’s just not true.
like you said, he does need to command it well. but you just don’t need a 97mph fastball to be successful.
it’s legitimate to question why his fastball speed has declined so rapidly… but he has the pitches to dominate even with a “lowly” 92mph fastball.
Betsy, good thing you don’t cover the Yankees. I know you would be so objective.
The thing about Aceves is we need to find out if his back was bothering him today and not allowing him to finish his delivery properly.
Fran -
The past few days I’ve had to listen to the game on radio. Do you find Sterling going out of his way to disparage every statistic out there, especially fielding statistics? And, yes, they are a trip!
I think Chad (and most other reporters) keep bringing up Joba’s speed for the same reason most fans bring it up – it used to be more, so it’s a story. A tired story for some of us, but a story just the same.
i did see a few 94 mph with 2 outs.
i like to know why he can’t be 95 to 96 velocity out of the pen last ps.
Hey Fran! You would have loved watching AJ and Jorge work together. The real AJ is now here to stay.
Texas is a good team. They have a real shot to win the AL West.
And these past two games haven’t even been remotely competitive.
This team is just so good right now. And the thing that really sticks out is the combination of discipline and variety.
They are simultaneously relentless and have such a wide variety of skills sets and tools that they can beat the opposition in so many ways.
How do you game plan against this team if you are the other manager?
Mark – the team is not “booring”, nor are they boring.
Fail.
He threw a 94 mph during the previous batter too.
I worry about location not mph when it comes to Joba’s pitches.
Can we replace Kay with Vin Scully? Offer him a boat load of cash and his own TV show
—-
Haha funny you should mention that. The Yanks already tried to get Scully back in the 60′s.
Why are so many obsessed with Joba’s velocity?
Maybe if he blew his arm out throwing 96 and up consistently they would be happy.
Maybe he’s trying to develop as a pitcher? Maybe he learned something last year?
Craw, I’d be pretty upset if Joe pitched Ace when his back was bothering him. On the other hand, if Ace’s back was bothering him and he didn’t say anything, I’d be pretty upset as well. Of course, it could have nothing to do with his back and everything to do with just having a bad day.
boston dave
i agree if he commands it, i don’t think he has to be 95 to 97.
i however don’t think he good enough to pitch low 90. in terms of command.
the extra velcity makes the hitter decide wheather to swing earlier and make his devasting slider more effective
Betsy,
I know they are awful, but it was the only choice I had.
I love how the Yanks don’t change their game plan based on the game situation. They could be blowing out another team or getting blown out, but they are going to the plate with the same approach they always do.
BD, I wouldn’t mind Murphy as the full time left fielder. He can play both corners. He has power and can steal a base and a good fielder. Not sure that him throwing left handed would hurt him as a left fielder. He’s still only 28 and most of all of the potential impact bats in the minors are right handed. This year, they’re pretty evenly split with the main starters being 2 right handed, 3 switch hitters and 4 left handed bats.
If you think it’s boring, go watch the Mets.
They are just loaded with excitement.
I hope this team is as boring as the 1998 team was.
Joba!
Hi Trisha,
AJ did a great job. Now if they can just get Javy straightened out they should be unstoppable.
Yanks didn’t see 5 games over .500 until May 19th last season.
NY Yankees are a very dangerous ballclub…..Watchout AL …..They’re actually better than last season
It is funny how Kay corrected himself at just the same time we were talking about that trivia question.
Makes you wonder? Kim are you in here?
Teddy, I am a bit concerned over Joba’s apparent lack of velocity as well [question for anyone: Gameday shows Joba hitting 94 today on the 4-seamer. Is Gameday's gun accurate?]
[Another question for anyone who watched the game live or broadcast: how was Joba's movement?]
Joba threw 19 pitches today to three batters.
12 fastballs [assuming all 12 were four-seamers]
5 sliders
2 curveballs.
The two curveballs got him a ground out and a called strike.
The 5 sliders got him two foul balls, a ball, and two swinging strikes [both Ks]
The 12 fastballs got him 4 called strikes, three foul balls, and 5 balls.
Personally, I’m not going to worry about Joba.
I don’t see how this team could possibly be “boring.”
They are playing a great game at such a high level – and playing it at a high level in nearly every facet of competition.
It’s only 11 games but it is not often as a fan you get to see the game played at this level and in such a consistent fashion.
Watching these 11 games isn’t like watching a team on a hot streak that you can tell will end. This is consistent, controlled, dominance.
Now it’s unlikely they can play at this level all year. But this is a very good, very balanced team.
Yankee fans should enjoy this because it is not something that one gets to see often.
“Randy’s son, Livan has a 4 hit shutout through 8 innings going against Milwaukee.”
gb7-
i was waiting until he finished the 9 inning shut our before responding .
livan now had 16 straight scoreless innings going over two starts.
you have to admit this is kind of funny.
i’m going to have to dig up some of the old blog entries a few years ago when i was first saying what an amazing bad pitcher livan was and taking mucho abuse ( patrick, are you there? ).
he can’t lose anything as he gets older because he’s already so slow.
he’s younger than jeter.
i think he may give up jeter’s 4000th hit.
anyway , pretty amusing.
Doreen,
Funny you mention that about the stats. Today they were going on and on about Feldman’s stats and the Texas Rangers pitching stats. Their point was that Feldman’s stats were good only because he had not faced a patient team like the Yankees who make a pitcher work. That is probably true, but they must have come up with 50 ways to say the same thing over and over. That was between Sterlings calls of deep fly balls to the warning track that were caught by the SS.
Kay looks tired. Taking on too many jobs? Talk shows and Center Stage. No wonder he takes some road trips off.
Flaherty and him are insufferable. Needs some humor. Bring on O’Neill, he only does the big games. Where’s Singleton?
Bring back Coney!
“AJ did a great job. Now if they can just get Javy straightened out they should be unstoppable.”
Fran, I understand that Girardi is already planning to have Cervelli catch his next game…
Juan Gonzales
NY Times writer sums it up well-
“The multidimensional nature of the Yanks’ offense is striking. It will become a story.”
A sweep tomorrow is preferable but the Yankees can’t do worse than another 2 out of 3 series.
Let’s go Andy !
“he’s younger than jeter.”
Livan was part of my investment strategy today, but I don’t believe that hokum about being younger than Jeter.
M
“he’s younger than jeter.”
Livan was part of my investment strategy today, but I don’t believe that hokum about being younger than Jeter.
M
Let’s not get too giddy about Joba. He was only throwing 90 MPH and was facing a Texas team that wanted to go home (and the bottom of the lineup. I mean Burbon, Andrus, and Maniel Murphy? Not exactly Young-Hamilton-Cruz).
Let’s see him do it in a 1-run game on the road before we give him that much praise…
He threw more two seamers than four seamers today and worked out of the stretch the entire inning.
Tells me he was working on things out of the stretch since he always pitches out of the windup when there are no runners on base.
Personally, I thought he threw the ball well. Great tilt on his sliders and he was working the two seamer well.
WAY too much overanalysis, much of it wrong, on Joba.
He’s rounding himself into bullpen shape and there was no reason to empty the tank out there today.
…Maybe he was touched by Jacob.
Pat M, this season is going to be no fun. It was a lot more fun last season being one of the few posters convinced all season long that the Yankees were going to win the world series. Now everyone’s going to be on the bandwagon!
Actually, I’m sure the bandwagon will lighten up as soon as the Yankees lose a game.
SJ-The voice of reason.
he’s younger than jeter.
———————————————————————————————————————-
Even in dog years, Jeter is still younger.
Trisha,
Whatever works for Javy. I also think it will help him to be pitching on the road so the crowd won’t get to him.
Pat, GB – I thought I had a ringer when the question of guys with 1000 hits in each league came up: Willie Keeler. Turns out ol’ Hit ‘em Where They Ain’t only 974 or something like that for the Highlanders [but almost 2000 in the Senior Circuit]. Close, but no cigar….
keithlaw RT @EricStangel: MLB: Umpire Joe West just recommended cutting Star Spangled Banner down to “Hey- Check Out The Flag!”
Fran, I think Javy is just a work in progress in terms of settling in. He has good stuff. Javy isn’t brash and loutish (a la David Wells) so it might take him a little more to trust his stuff and feel good about things. But I believe he will definitely get there.
anybody else notice Joba throwing a pretty nice-looking cutter there today? His FB was a little eratic (91-94 on the gun is fine, but he was pretty consistently not finishing it off and leaving it up and away to lefties), but he seemed to do a really good job commanding spots with a 90mph pitch that definitely looked like a cutter from my vantage point (i.e. tv)
He did….in Boston. Miss that game.
Cervelli is going to catch every 4th game. He is not being assigned pitchers. That’s per Girardi because he neither wants to assign Cervelli to a particular pitcher (CC for example) nor does he want Posada to catch more than 3 straight games (with no days off in between) this early in the season.
With the off days, he can play with the schedule.
“Livan was part of my investment strategy today, but I don’t believe that hokum about being younger than Jeter.”
i suppose it’s kind of a giveaway that maybe livan’s age isn’t quite accurate when they carbon date him.
Johan vs Pujols flies out to CF
Johan vs Holliday he strikes out, bwahahah!
Hughes faces Ben Sheets next Wednesday…. should be fun!
Only Yankee fans would think winning is boring….
I hadn’t even given Keeler a thought about 1,000 hits in each league. He completely skipped my mind. I’m sure that Randy and Pat both saw all of Keeler’s hits and would have remembered that,
I like the way they “explained” that they worded the question wrong.
“We meant to say 1000 hits with each team in the AL and NL.”
That leaves out F. Robinson and McGriff.
Coverup.
But I believe he will definitely get there.
*********************
Trisha,
As usual, I agree with you.
The only way to know for sure would be to carve Livan in half and count the rings.
But +145 vs. Randy Wolf?
Cha-ching!
The Yankees are better than last year.
Rishi April 17th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
keithlaw RT @EricStangel: MLB: Umpire Joe West just recommended cutting Star Spangled Banner down to “Hey- Check Out The Flag!”
*********************************
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Only Yankee fans would think winning is boring….
=====================================
What is your obsession with Yankee fans?
Is it possible these are trolls you are hearing?
Didn’t Livan give up Wee Willie’s 1000th basehit back when he was a rookie?
Joba got the outs – period; that’s all that matters.
Fun game to watch today. AJ, Joba, Jeter. I think the part I like best was when the Yankees loaded the bases without getting a ball out of the infield. If speed kills, power and speed destroys!
If the Sox don’t start winning soon, these Yankees (even with their tough schedule in April) are going to run away and hide.
Coney is doing Royals games now.
apparently, he butted heads w/a YES big wig.
I hate Keith Law, but that’s funny, lol.
Tim Lincecum might be a better bunter than Brett Gardner.
SJ44 – it was a joke. I wouldn’t think Girardi would be assigning catchers. It isn’t like CC can’t win with Posada behind the dish.
Your eyes might tell you that certain pitchers get better results with certain catchers but unless the overall result turns into a detriment to the team (Martinez v Varitek, with Beckett) you’ll likely not see assignments, unless you have a pitcher with the cachet to insist upon it (Maddox and anyone but Javy)
*********************
Pitchers are very competitive. I’m sure watching CC helped motivate AJ a little. Andy will want to keep the ball rolling etc. They talk about it all the time when they are in that kind of zone, how every pitcher wants to keep it going.
He is? I thought Coney left because he wanted to spend time with his family. Ugh, that really stinks – I loved Coney.
This is a very tough division and the season has barely started; the Yankees are not going to run away with things….
Fran, maybe tomorrow should be hamburgers and Yuku…
Betsy, you are starting to sound like Francesa.
I think Livan gave up Keeler’s #1, #1,000 and #2000 hits. Orlamdo gave up Keeler’s last hit. He didn’t want to be overshadowed by his kid brother.
how bad is the NL Central?
only one team has a positive run differential (you don’t have to think too hard to guess which one).
The Smoke Monster and Edgar Renteria have parted company.
***ORLAMDO**** HERNANDEZ is the forgotten brother of Orlando and Livan.
“Didn’t Livan give up Wee Willie’s 1000th basehit back when he was a rookie?”
i’ll have to check with gb7. he never missed a Wee Willie game .
Coney is doing Royals games now.
apparently, he butted heads w/a YES big wig.
=============================
I don’t see Coney kissing up to anybody, free spirit that he is.
Curtis interviews kill me…lol
You almost think he’s one of the analyst.
Bets, maybe I’m getting too confident too soon (which wouldn’t be unusual, ha ha) but I do see the Yankees with the potential to run away with the division.
Since I’ve already been accused of being mental today, it probably shouldn’t be surprising to hear that I too tend to get a little bored when things are too easy. I’d rather see games that are tight and somewhat challenging than to see the Yankees blow everyone out. But when you’re mental that’s how things are.
Curtis is Jeter-like in interviews.
3:48: Nelson Cruz hits a three run shot off of Aceves. Fans boo. It is still 7-3 Yankees. Girardi is coming to get Aceves and a fan in front of me yells, “Too late Joe.” Marte is coming in here in the seventh.
——————–
lol funny
I thought Cone left because he wanted to go back to where he grew up.
(an Irish bar)
Trish, I’m very confident in the Yankees as well, but I just don’t believe in making declarations like that – especially after only 11 games. The Yankees are the best team in baseball in the best division; I don’t expect this to be easy. If it is, then fantastic.
Nome April 17th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
3:48: Nelson Cruz hits a three run shot off of Aceves. Fans boo. It is still 7-3 Yankees. Girardi is coming to get Aceves and a fan in front of me yells, “Too late Joe.” Marte is coming in here in the seventh.
========================
Even Kay said Texas was back in the game.
randy l. April 17th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
“Didn’t Livan give up Wee Willie’s 1000th basehit back when he was a rookie?”
i’ll have to check with gb7. he never missed a Wee Willie game .
———————————————————————————————————————
You need some new material. I used that one about 10 minutes before you. I’m sueing for stealing my stuff.
Tricia, Last year at this time the 2009 Yankee bandwagon was quite desereted….All those loses to Boston, no Mo, No Alex, no Wang, Texeria & CC were very slow out of the gate…..You could give away space on the wagon……Plus all the complaing about the empty Lux seats, it was ugly…….This season a full house so far…….I’ve already booked my flights for October, as I did last October……Yanks are loaded
hardwired April 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Coney is doing Royals games now.
apparently, he butted heads w/a YES big wig.
***********************
Is he really?? That’s too bad-he was one of my favorites at YES.
“The Smoke Monster and Edgar Renteria have parted company.”
In a corner, somewhere, Johnny Damon weeps.
Alas, the smoke monster was just pampered too grandly when he was only a puff or even a wisp to handle the life of Renteria.
Leiter and Oneill are the only good announcers on YES. Singleton is ok. Flaherty puts more people to sleep than ambien. Kay is just a flat out moron
I love Singleton and I like Leiter…….
Tino is a great analyst as well
What an interesting conundrum…
To err on the side of positivity or negativity?
Is it really to err or to have irrational exuberance?
I say be positive, yes, say the Yanks will run away with it, who is to judge?
Curtis is Jeter-like in interviews.
–
No, Curtis has substance.
Singleton owns, don’t hate. I hope Morgan Ensberg can live his dream of becoming a YES color guy. He seems good.
for those keeping an eye on Johan Santana against the Cards, also keep an eye on Jamie Garcia pitching for St Louis.
he could be a nice young addition to an already solid rotation this season.
With Carpenter and Wainright looking like the best 1-2 punch in the NL (unless Hamels returns to form), and Brad Penny looking like a new pitcher, their rotation could prove to be the difference in the NL.
The problem was that the host body was more ancient than the parasite.
I want to see some confirmation that Cone is doing Royals games.
Currently, the only Yankee announcers I like are Singleton and O’Neill. Leiter talks too much for me, but he’s less boring than Flaherty.
This is a very tough division and the season has barely started; the Yankees are not going to run away with things?.
================================================
We’ll see Betsy, IMO the Sox are not built to win this year…their bullpen is not very deep and their offense is not very good on the road. I really do think the Yankees can run away with the division this year or at least run away from the Sox.
And Jeter is not substantive, oh please.
OrLAMdo was always on the lam with Jumpin’ Joe Dugan.
haha! CB with the gut-punch, bringing Liv to the table…
[wait - what? Livan was already AT the table?] hahahaha
“Even Kay said Texas was back in the game.”
———————
aren’t the Yankees something like 1297 – 3 when leading after 7 innings over the past 15 years?
“The problem was that the host body was more ancient than the parasite.”
Sabean’s Paradox.
The funniest thing was when the ballboy threw Jorge’s 1500 hit ball into the pail of balls.
“This is a very tough division and the season has barely started; the Yankees are not going to run away with things”
————–
it would be foolish to think that the Yanks are just going to run away with things.
the AL east is indeed a tough division.
that said, if there were a team poised to run away with things, it’s the Yankees.
still, I certainly am not counting any chickens 11 games into a long, long season.
I hate to even mention the “I” word, but one injury could change things too.
Did Jorge just say he took the whole pail of balls?
Jeter really is not substantive. He’s personable, but terse. Grandy gives you a real answer.
But that’s okay. They’re different types of people with different experiences.
what could the Mets get in return if they wanted to trade Johan Santana (and his contract) right now?
interesting thought…
If Jorge keeps defying the odds who knows maybe he’ll get to 2000 hits and he won’t care about 1500?
“mick April 17th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
The funniest thing was when the ballboy threw Jorge’s 1500 hit ball into the pail of balls.”
Was that Brandon Braboy? hahaha
I agree Betsy. Singelton and Leiter.
Jeter doesn’t like to state the obvious. He hates softball questions Kim lobs at him and ridicules her. Believe me you won’t find a higher baseball intellect than Jeter. And that is obvious.
>The funniest thing was when the ballboy threw Jorge’s 1500 hit ball into the pail of balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT32Z-wlfTQ
BD I don’t think many teams would want to pony up the cash and prospects for Santana.
Patrick,
If Jorge plays 3 more seasons at this level, 2000 is pretty much a lock.
Of course, that would bring him to age 41.
But who’d have thought he’d be hitting like this at 38?
gotta love this guy…
The latest talk is Jorge to the Hall.
Carl, I’ve always loved Singleton – he’s solid, just solid. He knows his stuff and I love hearing him talk about his playing days.
Can we all agree now that CC is better than Santana?
My feelings exactly BD
“You need some new material. I used that one about 10 minutes before you. I’m sueing for stealing my stuff.”
yeah , i just saw that.
it’s embarrassing when you’re faster than me.
you must have gotten wheels for your walker so you’re faster when you head to the fridge for a beer.
i used to count on that time to get posts in before you responded.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Carl, I’ve always loved Singleton – he’s solid, just solid. He knows his stuff and I love hearing him talk about his playing days.
I like when he goes “And this one is gone!”
Derek answers more questions with questions than he does answers.
He may know alot but he’s made saying nothing an artform for the past 15 years.
LOL Carl – so do I. Kay’s “see ya” is so corny and schticky…………..
“BD I don’t think many teams would want to pony up the cash and prospects for Santana.”
————-
that’s what I’m thinking too.
Most people figured the Twins were absolutely fleeced for Santana with the package they got from the Mets.
But now, I wonder if the Mets could find a single team who would take Santana and his contract for anything in return.
I hate to admit I was originally in favor of the Yanks trading Hughes (though not much else) for Santana. Boy was I wrong.
Jeter is a man of few words, so what? Not everything is made for TV.
Singleton should take over as the play by play guy. He’s not as smooth but at least he knows baseball
is clear cc better, don’t tell that to francessa
Nick in SF or Pat M,
is it too late for me to take the SF Giants over in wins?
BD, you were for trading Hughes? The horror, lol.
The Yankees got very, very lucky that Bill Smith got greedy; I’m sure it was Hank that forced Cash to put him on the table.
CC is better than Santana now..
BD, that ship has sailed — but I’ll send you a postcard.
Lincecum has 2 more hits in 3 innings than the Dodgers have in 5 combined innings today.
Kay’s strength is that he tries to bring the others into the equation by asking questions, going back to his reporter days.
Too bad what they usually have to say is long winded, Leiter. At least O’neill has a sense of humor.
“Can we all agree now that CC is better than Santana?”
A lot of people didn’t want to hear it in the winter of 2007, but Santana was indeed starting to lose his stuff. His slider isn’t nearly the pitch it once was. His velocity has dipped.
CC is getting better as a pitcher as his change continues to become a weapon.
Still hard to believe how pivotal not trading for Santana was.
They kept Hughes – and he is going to be a very good pitcher.
Ian Kennedy was a piece in trading for Granderson – Arizona wanted a young cost controlled pitcher who was ready to pitch at the major league level in 2010. Kenndy was the only pitcher other than Hughes and Joba who fit that bill.
They used Melky as a piece to get Vazquez.
Marquez was part of the trade to get swisher.
Every player the Twins wanted in that trade has gone on to produce tangible value for the yanks either on the field or in a trade.
Mick, talk of Jorge and the Hall is not recent talk in the cicles of baseball……..He gets lost because of Derek, Alex & Mo……He’ll be in the hall if he can produce this season as per his Topp’s baseball card……If Pudge is a so-called lock, then Posada is in
Couldn’t have explained it better CB
Pat, so one more great year should get Jorge in?
randy l. April 17th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
“You need some new material. I used that one about 10 minutes before you. I’m sueing for stealing my stuff.”
yeah , i just saw that.
it’s embarrassing when you’re faster than me.
you must have gotten wheels for your walker so you’re faster when you head to the fridge for a beer.
i used to count on that time to get posts in before you responded.
———————————————————————————————————————-
That’s pretty witty for a centenarian.
good synopsis CB.
Betsy,
at least I can admit it
I believe Santana and Halladay were the best pitchers in baseball at that time (apologies to Brandon Webb)
If I knew with 100% certainty that they’d get CC, that would have changed things. But I just felt like this was a very rare opportunity to get an ace.
I, of course, ignored the signs of any decline that Johan might be in the midst of.
It’s reasons like those that allow me to have even more faith in Brian Cashman. It’s not just the great deals he’s made… it’s the ones he may not have made.
I wasn’t sure about Santana’s stuff, but I just felt like Santana wasn’t a guarantee of anything (not his fault, no player is). I wasn’t willing to trade a pitcher of Hughes’ potential for him. The question of whether Phil would ever be as good as Johan was moot to me. Phil was younger, full of potential and could be a mainstay in our rotation for a long time. I also felt that he had proved something against the Indians; I was awfully impressed by a 21 year old shutting down that team for a few innings in a packed and loud YS.
BD, that ship has sailed — but I’ll send you a postcard.
——–
Yeah that ship is on the same course as Black Rock, have fun on the island
In all fairness,at the time Cashman wasn’t exactly on a roll esp with pitching decisions. Santana was enticing but CC wasn’t on the radar like say a Crawford might be.
Nick in SF,
sounds good… I suppose that means it’s too late to take the under for the ‘Stros.
seems like you’re in line to make some loot this season (assuming the first 10 games can be projected out for 162
)
Wow thats pretty crazy when you break it down like that CB. Hughes, Kennedy, Cabrera and Marquez was the proposed package to get Santana and as you said all 4 of those players have helped us big time.
BD, lol. There were valid reasons for making the deal, but also valid reasons for not doing it.
I love Cash, but this was really out of his control. If he had his druthers, Phil would never have been offered up on a silver platter. Hank had fallen in love with Joba and out of love with Phil and he, like his dad, desperately wanted the big guy. The only reason the deal was not made was because Smith got stupid and Hank got annoyed. The deal, had it gone down, would have been done on Cash’s watch, but it would not have been his doing. I firmly believe that.
Patrick, you want to take the Giants under 82.5?
CC was on Cashman’s radar then.
I’m watching NYM vs STL Santana looks good. Pujols Holliiday can’t hit him so far. He said he wasn’t worried about he velocity but working on locating his pitches.
I believe that Sabathia had been Cashman’s target 2 years before he became a FA and was just waiting for his time to file.
Craw, he definitely was……..unfortunately Santana was on Hank’s radar at the time. Ugh, I still remember Hank opening his yapper almost every day regarding the deal – he just wouldn’t shut up.
CB,
good analysis.
it’s amazing to think how pivotal that 1 non-move and 1 signing have impacted this franchise.
also, i wonder where CC would have ended up if the Yankees were not in the picture.
Anaheim? Milwaukee? Boston???
Patrick, you want to take the Giants under 82.5?
—-
Yeah sure, if you want to make that a bet between us I’m definitely in. Should be fun to follow throughout the season and it’ll give me another reason to watch some NL west games.
Jason Bay is a continual Strike Out today.
Anybody think that the reason Hank fell out of favor and Hal took over might be tied to that Santana stuff? I wonder some times if MLB sent the Yankees a warning about tampering.
If Phil turns out to be a top of the rotation pitcher, which I expect he will, then the non-deal looks even bigger. Of course, if the Yankees don’t re-sign him when he becomes a FA in a few years, then it’s all moot, lol.
BD, probably Anaheim.
Rob B, I’m assuming Hal had a nice talking to with Hank. I don’t know what happened, but I’m so glad that the right brother is running this team
Betsy,
you’re probably right about that.
I was also thinking about how close the Red Sox may have been to trading away Jon Lester (and others) for Santana.
Smith really screwed that up.
Fortunately for Twins fans, they have a very good team regardless and seem to be one of the best franchises in developing talent.
BD: most places shut down the win total props before the season begins.
There used to be a site called Tradesports that let you buy/sell sports wagers like futures that would expire at either 100 or 0 at the conclusion of a contest, but they closed up shop (their intrade prediction market is still in business, but they don’t offer sports bets).
There might be other sites that would still have season win totals and adjust the odds as the season progressed, but I don’t know which.
Yeah, Betsy, I’m thinking that Hank was on his way to a suspension, a la George, the way he was carrying on. They guy was definitely on the edge of losing control.
Patrick,
That’s one of the things I was struck by once Kennedy got traded.
Too often there’s a kind of silly argument about keeping prospects vs. trading them as if it were a straightforward position to take on where things should fall.
One of the points that’s often missed is that part of the reason why you shouldn’t trade a prospect in any particular deal is because you can’t use him as a piece in another deal later on.
There were some fans who advocated for trading Austin Jackson for Jarrod Washburn at the trade deadline last year. When they didn’t the silly term “prospect hugger” came out yet again.
But that was an awful trade – and not because Jackson was “untouchable.” It was awful because that’s not the deal to use that chip.
If they trade for Washburn – no Curtis Granderson.
Same thing for Kennedy. Lots of yankee fans were down on him. But he turned out to have significant value.
That granderson trade was not easy to make. Both the Tigers and D’Backs had very speific requirements.
Kennedy really was the only prospect the yankees had outside of Hughes and Joba who met the D’Backs needs.
Melky and Marquez were fungible in those deals to one degree or another. Not so much with Kennedy.
Losing all of those guys in that deal for Santana would have been devastating for the franchise because it would have precluded them from making critical trades later on.
Ok, Patrick, I will take the Giants over 82.5 wins, you take the under. Just name the stakes.
Betsy, if Phil does become a top of the rotation starter, you can rest assured that the Yankees will lock him up long-term. I have a feeling that Hughes will be in pinstripes for a long long time..
BD, I agree………I don’t think the Sox would have traded Lester for Santana unless it was just to keep him away from the Yankees. Then again, I don’t know if they thought Lester would be this good. The Twins did not want to trade to a team in the AL – much like the Jays – and they took a rotten package for it. At some point, these GMs need to quit with the pride and do the right thing for their team.
Rob B,
that’s possible.
we haven’t heard a peep from Hank in a long time… and much to the chagrin of Yankee-haters everywhere…
it’s getting harder and harder to hate the NY Yankees.
Their team is full of class individuals. They have done an excellent job at doing more charity work. The front office is mostly well respected around the league.
Patrick, I was sort of being facetious, but I agree. When does he become a FA, 3 years?
Ok Nick, lets make it $30. I have no problem going higher if you’d like or we could do something without money. But I figure $30 will get me back the $20 I already paid you and the $5 I owe you with $5 left over for a venti caramel machiatto from starbucks
I wish fox would stop showing mcgwire’s ugly pitted face please. They sem to be in love with the fraud!
“BD, I agree………I don’t think the Sox would have traded Lester for Santana unless it was just to keep him away from the Yankees. Then again, I don’t know if they thought Lester would be this good.”
———–
a friend of mine in the Sox organization told me the front office had mostly soured on Lester at that time. He was wild and despite having great stuff, he couldn’t command it.
He told me that pitching coach Jon Farrell was instrumental in keeping Lester. He was adamant that he could fix Lester’s issues and that he’d be a very good pitcher.
Damn Farrell was right. That guy needs to hurry up and leave the Sox for a managerial position somewhere else.
$30 sounds fine, but the World Series bet was $25, so we can make it $35 if you really want to make a profit to go to Starbucks.
CB,
It really is remarkable how lucky the Yankees were to have Kennedy and Jackson in the system. Without either of those players, the Granderson deal never gets done.
Betsy,
Phil is arbitration eligible after this season I believe. Which means after the 2013 season he’s a free agent.
CB, very good points. That said, just on its own merits, AJax for Washburn would have been a bad deal.
We also have to recognize that while fans may be very high (or down) on a prospect, the only thing that matters is what other teams feel about him. If other teams liked IPK, then it didn’t matter what Yankee fans thought.
Johan is keeping the Cards scoreless. 0-0
“I have a feeling that Hughes will be in pinstripes for a long long time..”
————–
I sure hope so.
I don’t need to tell anybody who his favorite team growing up was
$30 sounds fine, but the World Series bet was $25, so we can make it $35 if you really want to make a profit to go to Starbucks.
———
I have a terrible memory when it comes to money. Lets make it $35 since this is a year long bet and I really want that starbucks profit.
Hughes has just over 2 years of MLB service time, according to Cot’s Baseball Contracts. So he won’t be a free agent for another 4 years (including this one of course).
Unless I am interpreting that wrong?
“Johan is keeping the Cards scoreless. 0-0″
—————
Johan may need to learn to pitch to contact.
He has only given up 3 hits and a walk through 4 innings but he’s over 80 pitches.
The Mets rely so much on Johan giving them 7 quality innings every game, thanks to their shaky 2-5 starters, that a 5 inning start from Santana is going to kill that bullpen.
Pusher Man in SF.
What would Renteria do?
$35, I have Giants over 82.5 wins, you have under 82.5 wins. Done!
BD, it’s instructive on how you have to have patience with young pitchers, especially those with exceptional talent. I see some Yankee fans coming back onto Phil’s bandwagon, but many of these same fans jumped off after his injuries and struggles. I guess the fact that he didn’t win 20 games at age 22 was a problem for them, lol.
Patrick, thanks!
BD, if Phil leaves -yes, I think he’d go to the Sox (:mad: I don’t even want to think about that). Of course, if the Yankees let him go, that means he hasn’t come close to delivering on his promise.
“Johan may need to learn to pitch to contact.”
That’s a very tall order. That’s just not who Santana has been.
He’ll need to add another pitch to do so.
Looks like the Yankees will draw Sheets, Braden and Duchscherer Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
Betsy,
I think it unfortunately had a lot to do with Hughes not throwing 95 mph too.
Some people just can’t fathom a pitcher succeeding with a low-90′s fastball.
Who cares about good life on the fastball or a plus curveball?
Then Phil faces Braden, not Sheets……..not that it matters.
“That’s a very tall order. That’s just not who Santana has been. ”
————–
Very true.
I still think he may need to try a 2-seamer or a cutter in there. He could still get swings and misses with the slider and changeup. I dunno…
The Mets just can’t afford to have their only reliable starter giving them 5 2/3.
(Another silent compliment to a guy like CC)
BD, Phil throws harder than low 90′s, but your point is well taken. Fans on boards maybe think they are missing the AAA Phil that they saw throw like 96 MPH? I’m sure he hit that at times, but did he sit there? No……..Then again, he’s got a great FB and fantastic command; what’s not to like? People on this board were calling him a bust and no better than a #3. I could understand their frustation in 2008, but clearly something was wrong and it turned out to be his rib. His #s as a starter need to be taken with a grain of salt as he was always rehabbing from something. In his short career as a starter, he’s had some very dominating starts…….
If the Yanks lineup does their thing, Phil doesn’t even need to be lights out to get the W’s.
I’m sure Phil would appreciate being allowed to have some growing pains if the Yanks are scoring 7-8 runs for him and they still win the game.
Most young pitchers don’t have the lineup capable of picking a guy up if he has a bad start like Phil does….
hopefully that gives him extra confidence that he doesn’t need to try to be perfect and can just go after hitters.
Late as usual, but good ninth by Joba. Why do fans think Joba will not be a good reliever. He was in the rotation for gawds sake – anyone from the rotation should make a good reliever. If, If, If, he did not start out in the pen in 07 we might not be having this conversation And if a frog had wings ………..
Cano and Jeter are on fire. Granderson is grand. This is a great Yankee team. They might as well fit them for WS rings again. Love that Joba gave his to his father. Loved Harlan’s fist pump too!
And he’s had some bad starts, not to forget them.
“I still think he may need to try a 2-seamer or a cutter in there. He could still get swings and misses with the slider and changeup.”
A cutter would go well with his change up but perhaps the biggest difference in Santana is already in his slider. That’s the pitch that really changed for him. I don’t know how a cutter would fit with his arsenal unless it really resembled his fastball and had very late movement.
That team is just such a mess. All the parts just don’t fit together.
BD, he really is in a perfect position. If he is aggressive, he’s going to be fine…..and the great thing about this team is that there is always someone to pick someone else up.
I wonder what the blowhard SJ44 thinks of Burnett today after complaining about him all winter.
I don’t get what the Mets were doing with their SP this off-season, but Pelfrey is off to a very good start and Niese may be ok. Perez would be fine as a #5, but Maine?
Betsy,
Arguably Phil’s best starts have been when he had his cutter going – which is generally 89-90 mph.
I’ll never forget his start last year against the Tigers where he was jamming hitters and getting weak swings (if not K’ing them) from them because of the movement on his cutter.
If he turns into a 4-pitch guy, which looks likely, I can’t see how he won’t be successful.
BD, that was such a great start. The Yankees feel Phil is a year away from being fully developed, so this year can be looked at as something of a building block year. Orel Hershiser was on with Kay yesterday and he’s quite high on him. I know Jim Palmer apparently loves him – based on what some posters have mentioned here. I have set a high bar for Phil, I admit it…
AJ did have a good game, but let’s be honest here. Texas is a team that swings early and often. That is ideal for a pitcher like Burnett who tends to be wild. When he faces more patient teams, he may not do anywhere near as well.
Having said that, I didn’t see AJ pitch today; I listened to most of the game on the radio. So he could have pitched with impeccable control and I wouldn’t know for sure.
I didn’t complain about AJ at all this winter.
Try new material twerp. Your stuff is old and boring.
If this team stays healthy it should not be a hard road to the World Series. The pitching is awesome, the pen is good and Mo is Mo. Now if Tex can get his swing back soon – - and I am not worried, the 3, 4 and 5 will be deadly on this team. How long before Granderson is moved higher??
castillo flashback
Santana must love being with the Mets. He’s got a 3 hit shutout thru 6 and is tied at zero. Met offense has 1 hit, they’re pathetic. Nice job Omar with the National Leagues highest payroll.
I think it was a good decision to pass on the trade for Santana.
But, can we really completely dismiss the possibility of the Yankees trading for Johan AND signing CC?
Santana only makes $4.5 more than AJ per year. I do not think it would be that difficult to cut 4 or 5 million somewhere else on the team.
Burnett was outstanding against an outstanding fasball hitting team. Rather ridiculous to degrade the effort by saying the Rangers were swinging early and often.
# GreenBeret7 April 17th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Burnett was outstanding against an outstanding fasball hitting team. Rather ridiculous to degrade the effort by saying the Rangers were swinging early and often.
Seriously.
GB, I think you missed this part of my post:
“Having said that, I didn’t see AJ pitch today; I listened to most of the game on the radio. So he could have pitched with impeccable control and I wouldn’t know for sure.”
Betsy and BD, I don’t think its foolish of me to make a declaration after only 11 games if that’s the way I see things. I believe the Yankees will run away with the division and I believe they are going to mash all season long. Heck last year I declared them world series winners from the first day of the season based on the players they had and faith in the way Girardi managed.
On the other hand, I absolutely understand anyone thinking it’s premature for they themselves to make any kind of declaration right now. Not everyone processes things the same way. There is no value judgement on declaring or not declaring.
My way is to declare based on what I see.
I didn’t miss anything. They couldn’t hit much of anything that Burnett threw today and only one or two were very hard.
Thanks, GB – I didn’t want to say anything, lol.
Granderson is perfect where he is, pitchers are exhausted by the time they get there. The only problem he has is running behind Posada but I guess someone has to.
I was just reading through the thread.
Trisha,
There is no crying in baseball. Party foul.
Of the 6 hits that Burnett gave up, 4 were rollers through the infield where 2 just eluded Jeter, one got past Burnett up the middle and Cano just missed flagging one down. Today, even the pitches out of the strike zone were lust off the plate. I’ll take another 12-14 efforts just like that one any time.
Fine, GB. Let me restate my original post then:
I have not idea how good AJ really was today, because I didn’t watch the game. I heard most of it on the radio. So, as I was trying to say, I didn’t know for sure if he was just that good, or if the free-swinging Rangers helped him out a lot.
But, as I was trying to point out, a team like the Rangers is an ideal team for AJ to face since he tends to be wild.
But I guess it is still a ridiculous thing to say. I bow before you omnipotence.
Whoever said “winning is boring” is such a ………………..
It’s not easy to win. Every victory is earned. You dont get handed victories or championships (unless you’re the Celtics in a 6 or 8 team league in which all teams make the playoffs and you have a 10 footer).
I used to take pleasure in other teams’ success. For example, I was happy for baseball that the Marlins made it to the playoffs in 2003. I was happy for Dontrelle Willis in 2003. It turned out to bite me in the a**.
I dont care about any player not on the Yankees or in the Yankees system (not even my own friend who recently got released from the Rays system).
I only care about the Yankees, and it never gets boring. If we won for the next 10 years in a row, it would not get boring. I learned my lesson, I dont want to see any other team succeed ever.
Someone mentioned that Tex looks better from the right side.
IIRC Tex looked a lot better from the right side early last year also. And thinking about it now when he was struggling in the playoffs I think he looked better from the right side as well. He had that big HR against Minn batting right handed.
Anyone else remember this? Maybe his issues mostly stem from his LH swing.
LGY, if there’s no crying in baseball, I will officially have to turn in my card. Unfortunately I was born with the “easily moved to tears” gene.
LGY
Yes, even during his slump last April, I believe he hit well/okay from the right side.
Did Cano get a hit today?
trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 17th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
LGY, if there’s no crying in baseball, I will officially have to turn in my card. Unfortunately I was born with the “easily moved to tears” gene. ”
As was I. lol
After our team mobbed Hideki after receiving his ring, I nearly broke out into tears; I had to do everything to keep it together.
Trisha,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Texas manager Ron Washington on Gardner: “Well, the Yankees have themselves another Ichiro. You definitely have to play for his speed.”
9 minutes ago
Did Cano get a hit today?
No. Streak over.
“After our team mobbed Hideki after receiving his ring, I nearly broke out into tears; I had to do everything to keep it together.”
You’re a better person than I am. I started to cry listening to Kim Jones talk about what Hideki’s return would be like, on the pregame show. No lie!
LGY –
LMAO!!!!
That’s one of the best lines from that movie.
pat -
Oh, that’s too bad. I figured as much, because the post-game didn’t talk about it, but I wasn’t sure. And Jeter had 3 hits today. He shoulda given one to Robi!!
Bard will pitch if the game goes into the 10th inning. They’ve already told him to get ready. #RedSox
26 minutes ago
And no Papelbon available tonight because his wife gave birth today so the 2nd game tonight could be an adventure in the pen for the Sox in a close game.
I would like to see the Orioles win today just because it can’t be good for any team’s mental health to be at 1-9.
GO ORIOLES!
I think Jeter is going for 3000 this season!
This team is sick, sick, sick – in a good way.
Watch out 1998
Why are no media people touting the Yankees run prevention defense or the fact that they are 2nd in fielding and 4th in team ERA, the 4th fewest runs and 3rd fewest hits and walks in the league. They had 3 games that ballooned those numbers.
Congrats to Pap!
Good Lord could they have any worse luck?
http://10003208914.baseball.cb.....9;newstabs
## pat April 17th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Did Cano get a hit today?
No. Streak over.
At least it wasn’t Jeter who ended the streak. Then we’d probably have a dead beat writer on our hands.
santana pitched like a pimp today i do not know what game some of you guys are watching.
Papelbon had a kid??
there goes my “spore theory”
Trisha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4
This is his 2nd right? Grats to Pap.
and I agree with Trisha, Yankees are going to run away with the division this year. I really think the only thing that can beat the Yankees this summer is themselves; the only possible problems I see are:
1. injuries to the starting rotation (mainly Pettite and Burnett). It could prove difficult to keep both of these guys off the DL for an entire season again
2. Cano stops hitting. I think Cano is the key or “glue” to this lineup as the 5 hitter in that he protects A-rod, etc., and if he slumps the lineup could slump a little.
Other then that, this division is ours.
“This is his 2nd right?”
Yes. 15 month old Parker, now has a new brother, Gunner.
Good to see you, Uncle Ellsworth.
Spring Training stories?
Hey Nick
Kinda been layin low.
good to be back!
hope all is well!
good to see things havnt changed much here.
Sorry, but, this division isn’t “ours” until October 3rd….maybe.
I only have a minute Nick
Great time!
Kids loved it
They Got Mo’s Autograph!
along with some others (Melancon, Kay Kenny John Suzyn
I highly reccomend it.
I would ask Suzyn for an autograph is she would sign it:
“Goodness gracious! — Suzyn”
molina will walkoff against the mets
Rob B -
Yes! Jeter not jinxed!
But the tandem streak ended…
# teddy April 17th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
molina will walkoff against the mets
Party like its 2006?
I love THE TRUTH!!!!!
yep, but molina so close, yet so far away
“I love THE TRUTH!!!!!”
But can you recognize it when you see it?
That was way too easy a joke to just let sit there.
I love when the Yankees win an afternoon game and then the Red Sox and Rays play a night game. And tonight there’s TWO games to be decided, so that should be fun. I hope the suspended game goes extra innings and then Buchholz gets lit up early. That would be fun for the Sox pen, lol.
Cano was only stopped by Cano, today. He had good pitches to hit and didn’t. Looked a little jumpy at the plate, today.
pat April 17th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
“I love THE TRUTH!!!!!”
But can you recognize it when you see it?
That was way too easy a joke to just let sit there.
———————————————————————————————————————-
somebody has to take the easy rim shots or it looks like nobody caught it, pat.
I’m watching the Orioles game on gametracker. What are the chances that with one out and a runner on second they would strike out the Oakland hitter and he’d reach on a pitch that got by the catcher. So now with the Orioles leading 3-2, bottom of the 9th, they have runners on 1st and 3rd, nobody out.
It’s just wrong.
Intentional walk, bases loaded. 3 balls 2 strikes…
I think the Orioles manager will be the first to be fired this season. And Manuel may not be far behind if the Mets keep loosing.
But a walkoff win for the A’s is just oh so right!
With good run support tomorrow, Andy will be fine. Out of the bullpen David Robertson, Boone Logan, amd Mariano are available.
And the A’s just won the game on a single.
Those poor hapless Orioles. And a beautiful outing by Jeremy Guthrie (1 run, 6 innings) goes by the boards.
Fran, I feel for whoever was paired with DB this week. He has Johann Santana.
I don’t like seeing NYY go into Oakland and Anaheim with those two teams on any kind of long winning streaks. I’m only hoping that NYY gets done playing Baltimore before those bats wake up.
GB I don’t think I’ll be able to watch any of the Yanks Orioles games because it will be just too painful to watch the Yankees beat up on them.
There are at least three managers that will be gone before the end of june. Tremble, Manuel and Washington (if Texas doesn’t wake up fast). Gonzales in Florida is another one.
Trisha,
Yes, but Santana got a no decision.
Fran, I didn’t look but I just figured he got a ton of Ks plus probably went deep into the game. But a no decision is cool.
Hard to figure out what that young Baltimore staff will do, but, that offense has a lot of thump and if they wake up, they’ll give NY trouble.
GB,
It could get pretty ugly with manager firings. Here in NY they already have a manager-in waiting (Bob Melvin) to replace Manuel and the media keeps talking about it every day.
But a no decision is cool.
*******************
Trisha,
Unless they are on our fantasy team
Rays and Socks out for the bottom of the 9th.
Lance Cormier!
Fran, did I read that Valentine said that he had zero interest in managing the Mets?
I wonder if he might not take on the Orioles?
“Texas manager Ron Washington on Gardner: “Well, the Yankees have themselves another Ichiro. You definitely have to play for his speed.”
9 minutes ago”
I like Gardner, but…
I like Gardner, but…
—
NO. Its been said, it can’t be unsaid! Gardner is the new Ichiro!!
Fran, that goes without saying! Santana gave 23 points (9 Ks). I ended up with 32.5 out of Jorge DLR that first time. He made up for it the 2nd time though and gave me -.5!!!
GB, I’m not sure about all of the differences in their team but Melvin Mora is gone. Brian Roberts has been out injured so that doesn’t help. They’ve definitely had some problems with relief. They led going into the 9th and may have gotten out of it but 2 WP in a row (one on a K that allowed Davis to reach) set them up to lose the game. A single brought in two runs. Maybe Johnson got unnerved because they were actually set up to win a game.
GB,
Valentine did say that he has no interest in the Mets job. Apparently the Mets front office has tabbed Bob Melvin as the manager in waiting becasue he is a “yes” man and will do whatever the front office wants. And that is not Valentine’s style.
But I can definitely see Valentine taking a managerial job somewhere this season.
I’d settle for Gardner being the “New Gardner”. My yard needs a lot of work.
Pujols is going to face off against Nieve. 2 runners on 2 outs. This should be fun !
Socks/Rays going to extra innings.
i say ball 4 to pujois
teddy
Yep you were right they are going to walk him. Oh wait he threw a strike.
that should just inentional walk him. come on holliday
Wow ! The mets got out of it.
great catch by cora. holliday is an idiot
Dang ! I wanted to see a walk off.
I had just finished saying to my husband that Holliday was going to pop out, and the next pitch he pops out! Nice place by Cora.
wzup, everyone
anyone else love this team ?
likeable group of players. And they’re pretty good too… : )
I’d love to see Bobby Valentine take over the Orioles.
Holliday is a choke artist. You have the pitcher on the ropes why would you help him out ?
Mets have 1 hit in 11 innings facing
Jaime Garcia
Kyle McClennen
Mitchell Boggs
Garcia showed pretty good stuff, but 1 hit?
Hey vinny-b! I and THE TRUTH have picked them to run away with the division and of course to take it all. Hell of a ballclub!
Trisha, no on field leadership. Roberts and Marakas aren’t the type. Not sure how they are in the clubhouse, but, probably not the type that makes waves. Everyone else is too young to take in that job. If Wigginton had a more stable place in the hierarchy of the team, he’d be ideal, but, he’s the most likely involved in a mid-season deal.
Fran, Melvin never impressed me. What that Mets team needs is a screamer, not a babysitter.
Have to move BAL and TOR out of the AL East if they ever want to have a chance
Verducci’s floating re-alignment idea sounded great.
The fish rots from the head:
http://www.visitkarpathos.com/.....ngelos.jpg
No, I would not sit go to a game if I knew it was going to rain. No I would not sit through a ballgame in the rain if I happened to get caught in the rain once the game started. I would head for the closest monitor indoors and watch it there.
Evan Longoria has a great arm.
“Hey vinny-b and THE TRUTH have picked them to run away with the division and of course to take it all. Hell of a ballclub!”
—————————————————————
that they are, trisha : )
If I were the Wilpons, I’d consider Davy Lopes. Strictly no non-sense, but a tad easier going than Larry Bowa.
Got home from the game a bit ago. Wow, great game.
And not just the win. AJ was very efficient, and did NOT implode. I didn’t have the advantage of TV and replays, but he had Nelson Cruz, a dangerous hitter, just baffled it seemed. One AB, Cruz just sort of looked stunned on his way back to the dugout.
Gardner made maximum advantage of his speed. 3 infield hits, a SB, which created an error (I called that
), a run scored, and RBI – so much off his speed. That’s what he needs to do.
And they scored 7 with both small ball and long ball.
Even Joba finished it off.
They have so many ways to win, it’s ridiculous. As a Yankee fan, I love it. Haven’t seen a team like this since the 98-99 squad. I love it.
I guess Jerry Manuel wants to get fired at the end of this week. Why bring in Gary Matthews Jr. to pinch hit for Cora when he can’t hit. LOL !
Mets should hire a guy like Keith Hernandez. He would fire the team up, make them play hard, and motivate them.
Pinella is another option. He will throw water coolers and stuff if they don’t play hard.
Manual pinch hit for a guy who can’t hit, with a guy who can’t hit.
GB maybe it’s the same kind of thing it is with the Mets. Angelos wants a puppet he can run. Someone posted something last night saying that Angelos said he would not hire Ripken Jr. into any paying position with the team, something like that. What??? (if it’s tru’e). What’s that about? Did Ripken Jr. make the mistake of criticizing Angelos. I would think there couldn’t be a better role model for that team than Ripken Jr.
I will say that this ballclub reminds me of the 1998, 1999 ballclubs. That same feel. Like the Yankees were going to win every night.
I don’t get it. Games been voer for hours and no post game notes or anything. reaction? wheres LoHud at ?
The great thing about the Rays playing the Sox: it doesn’t matter who wins; either way, it’s a plus for the Yanks.
Truthfully, the Rays look to be the tougher team this year. I just could NEVER bring myself to root for the Sox.
LOL ! Saw that coming Gary Matthews Jr. struck out. The guy is done and it looks like Jerry will be done like many Americans right now. In the unemployment line.
“Mets should hire a guy like Keith Hernandez. He would fire the team up, make them play hard, and motivate them.
Pinella is another option. He will throw water coolers and stuff if they don?t play hard.”
But from what I’m reading it seems that they would be the opposite of what the Wilpons want in place. Therein lies the heart of the problem.
Those factors you have mentioned are what I wanted to see the Yankees look for in a manager and that’s why I was rooting hard for Girardi to get it. I think the Yankees needed an energetic manager and not a clone of the previous manager.
Gary Carter is available.
I’m not worried about the Yankees facing any team, but the A’s are certainly a surprise.
angelos may feel like Ripken will put on a power play and find financial backing to make a substantial offer to by the Orioles. Actually, Ripken as manager might be his Angelos’ bet. He certainly can’t be worse than what they’ve had.
GB, I disagree, but then I hate screaming managers.
“Mets should hire a guy like Keith Hernandez. He would fire the team up, make them play hard, and motivate them.
Pinella is another option. He will throw water coolers and stuff if they don’t play hard”
—————————————————————
what makes you think either one of them, would accept the Mets job ??
“Truthfully, the Rays look to be the tougher team this year. I just could NEVER bring myself to root for the Sox.”
Yes and yes.
Nick, Carter wouldn’t want the job now; without Willie here for everyone to walk all over, the job doesn’t seem very appealing
It is odd that there is no post-game thread up yet.
If I’m Maddon I get Sonnanstine in if he’s ready.
Joe, you saw quite a game. AJ pitched great; I read a quote from him that in essence said he thought he pitched well because he had confidence in his stuff. If AJ could always have confidence in himself, he would do well – he has to believe that he’s good. Then again, I think that goes for any player.
Last time the Yankees won the first 4 series of the season was 1926.
Joe Madden is gonna have his pitcher do a Satchel Paige
Betsy, Gary Carter would take the job yesterday.
It was a reference to how he publically said he was ‘available’ before they even fired Willie.
There was a long NYT profile of him at the time… it wasn’t very flattering.
This is pretty interesting to watch.
Of course leaving a tired reliever in, you probably need your entire outfield in the infield and then your bullpen in the outfield.
The Rays gave this game away.
Swinging at every pitch Bard threw, and Evan’s error!
I don’t know how to say this, but maybe Angelos doesn’t think Ripken would be a good exec? Being a great player is not necessarily a qualification for helping run a team…….That said, I doubt Angelos put that much thought into it; more likely Ripken criticized him and he’s taking it out on him by refusing to hire him
Nick, I know – I was being sarcastic. I figured that without Willie there to walk all over, he wouldn’t want the job, lol. I despised Carter for those comments; his stupid plastic smile hides a classless individual.
The Rays haven’t lost yet.
Ortiz just grounded out with the force at home.
Beltre up.
Hey that was pretty good! If they can do two more of those I am going to be mighty impressed!
The only thing Hernandez is good at is telling everyone how good he was….with a lisp.
Bases loaded, no outs. Ortiz can’t get it done.
Bases loaded, no outs. Ortiz can’t get it done.
if Lance Cormier gets out of this mess somehow, and the rays win… it would be an awful loss for the Sox.
there’s a lot that has to happen though..
The rays payroll this year is around $70M.
10% of that total is allotted to their closer Rafael Soriano.
And the Rays still have big problems with their bull pen.
This is a screwy game, but it is remarkable that Lance Cormier is throwing his third inning and stayed in the game after Drew led off with a hit.
I don’t really remember seeing an outfielder come in to be an infielder. Anyone else?
Umps are going to be angry with the Mets and Cards, game still 0-0 , 3.5 hrs at the top of the 12th.
Sux just used Bard in this suspended game, with a full game to follow.
Beltre having a hard time with the curveball.
IF the next one is low, he’ll K.
Mets still have 1 hit
I don’t really care who wins the game; as long as the Yankees are playing well, it doesn’t matter to me. I find it’s too early in the season to scoreboard watch…
How about just one night without how every team rolls over for the Red Sox, how the umpires conspire to cheat and give them every call and how the media wants them to win because everyone’s secretly a Red Sox homer.
Carl, the more important thing is that the Cards have no runs……..Mets have gotten good pitching the last 3 days.
hahah, wow.
Beltre hit that ball hard but right to Longoria.
what a game…
brutal inning for the Sawx.
Joe Madden pulls off the Satchel Paige
Omar Minaya destroyed the Mets with bad signings and just plain bad decisions. The Wilpons are much too clueless to see it. He should be the 1st to get the axe then hire his own manager.
Right now, Willie Randolph is laughing and at peace.
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Maddon, I bow to you man.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Carl, the more important thing is that the Cards have no runs……..Mets have gotten good pitching the last 3 days.
If they lose the game, 1 hit Betsy. I’ll pull a wfan all nighter.
what happen in the sox game, gameday slow as usual
What did Maddon do and what is a “Satchel Paige” in this instance?
Betsy,
It’s an interesting game still.
You don’t have many of these rainout games that basically start off in extra innings.
Add to that the last half inning, bases loaded nobody out for the Sox and they can’t score, and it’s definitely entertaining.
It won’t be worth it unless the Rays pull out this game.
That inning was a work of art.
GO RAYS!!!!!
Carl, I’m just saying that the Cards haven’t done anything either…….of course, they were facing Santana…
teddy,
Ortiz hit a grounder to 1st and they got the force at home.
then Beltre hit a hard grounder right at longoria who touched 3rd and threw to 1st for the DP.
Delcarmen in.
2 hits!
Run prevention at its best!
Cormier basically threw one pitch this entire appearance over and over – that little cut fastball he throws.
Almost every pitch was that same pitch. It was like watching an awful version of Rivera. That’s all Cormier was throwing.
And with the bases loaded, no outs, and their 5th and 6th place hitters up the Sox couldn’t score a run. Off a mediocre middle reliever who was tiring and throwing one pitch.
thanks bos dave, love the nick walk tracker
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Carl, I’m just saying that the Cards haven’t done anything either…….of course, they were facing Santana…
I know they haven’t. Still, 1 hit through 11 innings. That’s bad.
Gameday still has Beltre up.
BD, oh I didn’t mean that the game wasn’t interesting; I just meant that I’m not bothering to root for or against either team. I suppose I prefer the Rays to win because I detest the Sox…. Bases loaded and they couldn’t score? At Fenway?
My personal preference is for the Rays here, let the Socks let a home game slip away.
But this situation qualifies as a win-win already, we’re getting a minimum of 3.5 extra innings of baseball for these two teams before they even start their regular game.
CB,
Cormier threw a bunch of curveballs, especially to Beltre.
But I think the 2 balls in play were on the cut fastball.
By the way, where are the Boston mediots who practically salivated over a wounded Yankee team after the Sox won the first game?
# GreenBeret7 April 17th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
How about just one night without how every team rolls over for the Red Sox, how the umpires conspire to cheat and give them every call and how the media wants them to win because everyone’s secretly a Red Sox homer.
————
Ain’t that the truth, bro.
Doreen,
With the bases loaded and no outs Maddon pulled Zobrist in from RF to act as an extra infielder.
The stationed Zobrist by 2b with Ortiz up.
The move didn’t make much of a difference as Ortiz grounded it right at Pena who came home for the force.
Beltre then hit a grounder directly to Longoria who started a double play.
Doreen, you wouldn’t believe it. He left his tired reliever in after he gave up two hits and opted to bring Zobrist into the infield, leaving the outfield with two people. They had nobody out with the bases loaded and got out of it.
Not often do you see two “The Game That Never Ends” going on at the same time.
Betsy,
Nick in SF is right, win-win right now. It’s way too early to root for a winner here but all things being equal, I’m also going to root for the Sox to lose.
I’ll take a 20 inning marathon if it wears both clubs out.
Add in the fact that it’s cold and raining (off and on) and it’s just not a night when you want to essentially fit 1.5 games in.
“let the Socks let a home game slip away.”
And burn the pen when they are heading into a 12 game stretch with no off day
BD-
I’m pretty sure those pitches were all cut fastballs from Cormier. Maybe some sliders sprinkled in. But they looked like basically all cutters with some late movement.
I assume the Paige reference was a reference to his houdini ability to escape damage?
By the way, I didn’t mean that I thought the Yankees were wounded; the Globe’s article on that first game called the Yankees a “wounded ” team.
BD, yep – I agree. A night after a Yankees win is always so relaxing….
The Red Sox are choke artists and the Met’s hitters Wright and Bay are choke artists.
wow, ball right down the middle to Pena for strike 3 but it’s ball 1
ouch
Evening, GP. Hope all is on the fast track to recovery for you.
“I don’t really remember seeing an outfielder come in to be an infielder. Anyone else?”
gb7-
tell them about mickey stanley in 1968
Well CB explained it much better. But God Doreen, I wish you could have seen it. Did I think they had a shot of a snowball in hell of not allowing a run to score? No I did not. Maddon now looks like a genius. I was kind of stunned that he had Sonnanstine relieving and didn’t bring him in after Cormier gave up two hits!
“My personal preference is for the Rays here, let the Socks let a home game slip away.”
Agreed. The Sox losing any game at home is particularly hurtful to them as they are a significantly better team at home than on the road.
They can’t afford to lose home games.
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I assume the Paige reference was a reference to his houdini ability to escape damage?
By the way, I didn’t mean that I thought the Yankees were wounded; the Globe’s article on that first game called the Yankees a “wounded ” team.
Satchel would bring the outfield into the infield and strike batters out. Not quite the same as Joe Madden but close enough
I could have sworn that happened (bringing an OF in to the IF) as recently as last year…
ahh, now i see.
totally different situation, but stanley is still a good story.
CB,
there were definitely some sliders or curves – fairly big break on them – 2-7 ish.
the first pitch to Ortiz and at least 3 of them to Beltre.
He left one of them hanging over teh middle and Beltre barely made contact with it.
It’s easier to look like a genius with Big Papi and Beltre due up for the opposition.
“They can’t afford to lose home games.”
—————
especially a game started by Beckett, in which he gives up just 1 run, and they ahd the bases loaded nobody out in the 10th
LOL – Thanks Carl! I guess Paige was just toying with hitters; maybe Madden was toying with the Sox, letting them get their hopes up and then dashing them with clutch Cormier.
CB & Trisha -
Thanks.
We’re watching the Mets game. Jason Bay just struck out for the 4th time to end the inning with a runner on 1st. David Wright had already struck out.
As we speak, my husband just changed the channel and we are now watching a basketball game.
I vote for a movie, but I don’t think that’s happening.
BD-
Just checked game day and you were spot on. He did throw Beltre a bunch of curve balls.
Pat Burrell 2run HR
how many ways are there to spell OUCH
Pat says hi. Pat for the Rays.
CB,
He threw 5 or 6 77 mph curves. His ‘cutter’ is classified as sliders on pitchfx.
Betsy: Maddon has done the 5 IF thing before
HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Doreen – Burrell just hit a two-run homer. With two outs.
Doreen,
Jason Bay is lucky the Mets are on the road or he would be hearing from the fans.
Pat the Bat (though not so much anymore)? LOL
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....nfielders/
good article on maddon’s thinking
CB,
And one of those to Beltre should have been smacked off the wall. He missed badly on them.
I hate to say a loss in April could be devastating, but if the Rays hold on and win Game 2, Boston sports radio will be pretty ugly tomorrow.
Pat the bat!
Burrell has no bat speed at all anymore. He’s been a huge disaster in Tampa. That Pat Burrell can get around and pull a fastball over the wall just speaks to how poor Delcarmen’s fastball is now.
He really doesn’t have much on the ball.
Someone forgot to tell Delcarmen that Burrell was done.
The Corpse of Pat Burrell hit a homerun I see.
And Tito’s standing there thinking, why didn’t I bring one of the outfielders (not Hermida, thank you) in? It worked for them!
Has he, Jerkface? I didn’t know that – it’s kind of cool to see, actually.
randy l. April 17th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
“I don’t really remember seeing an outfielder come in to be an infielder. Anyone else?”
gb7-
tell them about mickey stanley in 1968
———————————————————————————————————————-
Man… Talk about a gutty move to bring your Gold Glove center fielder in to play shortstop for 7 games in the WS….and getting away with it. Mayo smith said later that it was as much about getting Ray Oyler out of the infield as it was about getting the aging Kaline in the outfield. Kaine ends up being one of the two biggest heroes of the ’68 World series.
HAHHHHHHHHHHHH catcher inference to bring pujois to the plate, so ball 4 to albert
The thing is, they’re wasting some really good pitching today. They (the Mets) can’t afford that!
Wow – so the Rays will probably win?
And then they have to play another full game, right? Oy!
HAHAHAHA The Sox blew it !
I think I heard that the Rays really wanted Damon, but they couldn’t sign him because of Burrell. At the time, it was lauded as a great move…..well, not so much.
“And one of those to Beltre should have been smacked off the wall. He missed badly on them.”
He’s just not a great RBI guy. He doesn’t make great contact on the ball. Cormier was up in the zone pretty consistently – Drew and Pedroia took advantage of that. He looked like he was tiring.
Beltre and Ortiz couldn’t get any lift on the ball to score the run from third.
I hope the Mets lose right here.
Manny Delgascan did his thing.
cards not pinch hitting
The Sox haven’t blown it yet; they still have their shot to come back.
Redsocks fans are not so smart:
http://www.wickedlocal.com/new.....ed-Sox-fan
(courtesy of It Is High)
“Someone forgot to tell Delcarmen that Burrell was done.”
I’m thinking the Rays have this game. And you know what will be the centerpiece of tomorrow’s stories. Bases loaded, nobody out, Cormier in his third inning of relief and allowing the first two batters to reach, four infielders – two outfielders, and the Sux couldn’t get the job done.
CB,
I thought Delcarmen threw a couple nice changeups that inning but I guess they couldn’t have been that good because he only got a swing on one of them (the out on Pena.)
He isn’t fooling anyone with his secondary pitches and unless his location is pristine with the fastball, it’s too straight and too slow to get it past MLB hitters right now.
He fell behind 2-0 to Burrell and had to throw a meatball… not a recipe for success.
CB,
It also speaks to how terrible Fenway can be for pitchers. Thats an out in a lot of stadiums, it was headed straight down and it barely clipped the top of the monster.
England. New England. What’s the difference?
I don’t know; looks like the Cardinals don’t want this one, either. Another bases loaded situation for nought.
Will the Mets just lose already ! Just give up you can’t win !
The difference? About a thousand years and 3000 miles……..:mrgreen:
“I don’t really remember seeing an outfielder come in to be an infielder. Anyone else?”
Sheffield played 3rd for an inning once. Jeter dive game I believe.
so larussa lets his pitcher hit really in holliday spot
Jerkface,
I know it only made the first row but it was hit pretty well. I think that still goes out or goes off the wall in many parks. It was on it’s way down but barely.
Tough to say…
Nobody’s Mo, but I’d feel pretty safe if Rafael Soriano came in to relieve a game with a two-run lead.
Jerkface-
That’s part of why the Sox really benefit from having relief pitchers who can throw hard and make it difficult for right handed hitters to pull the ball.
Delarmen just doesn’t have the stuff right now to be effective in that ball park.
We were back to the baseball game. He’s in control of the remote, so there’s channel switching going on.
And now we’re back to basketball. 
Is Jeter supposed to get to every ball? Why is it a big deal with him and not any other SS?
I think Pena would have made the plays to his left that Jeter didn’t make — 2 yesterday and one today. Great as he is, Jeter must get slower as he gets older. It would not be surprising if his old weakness on balls to his left were to return. Or maybe Jeter has some slight injury that he’s not talking about, although his outstanding hitting and baserunning would argue against that.
Why did Girardi replace Jeter with Pena in the 8th? Maybe he wanted to give Pena some playing time in a blowout game. Maybe the idea was to give Jeter some rest. A day game following a night game may get harder as one gets older. Or, maybe it was a late inning defensive replacement, like putting Winn in for Swisher. For all these reasons, I think brining in Pena was a good move.
Mets and Cards to the 13 th 0-0
“England. New England. What’s the difference?”
————
lol
I doubt a scammer is going to sell bleacher seats also. They were probably front 5 rows behind home plate.
so larussa lets his pitcher hit really in holliday spot
********************
He really had no choice. The only player left on his bench is a back-up catcher.
That question has a musical answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Doreen
I feel your pain.
Varitek has been making VMart look like David Ortiz so far.
Wow.
Guy is hitting better than anyone on the team.
yea but i still pinch hit and chance it, but i see your point
speaking of which, anyone want to buy some Varitek signed stuff, game used balls, etc.
gotta sell it before his avg goes back under .200
Dorren is liveblogging her husband’s remote-jockeying. Love it.
Maybe McGwire can pinch hit…then the clock will re-start on his HOF eligibility.
teddy,
but I did think he should have tried a suicide sqeeze.
Not sure if the would be scammee deserves a bill brag mediated answer…
Maybe oasis. Not Billy Bragg.
pat -
“Why did Girardi replace Jeter with Pena in the 8th?”
My guess would be, Derek was due up 2nd which guaranteed Pena an AB while replacing Alex or Robbie did not.
did anyone hear what’s going on with Cameron?
last I heard he had a kidney stone.
If that’s the case, he should probably not be playing right now.
Sorry I didn’t mean an outfielder come in to play an infield position, I meant five outfielders.
BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 13 April 17th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Varitek has been making VMart look like David Ortiz so far.
Wow.
Guy is hitting better than anyone on the team.
—————————————————————————————————-
It makes you chuckle a bit. Sox best lineup right now would be Ortiz benched, Martinez at DH and Varitek catching. But they still wouldn’t be able to throw anyone out.
Nick, want me to live blog the Golden Girls?
Sorry, five infielders.
if you’re a Red Sox fan, who would you rather have up:
David Ortiz
or
Mike Cameron’s kidney stone?
I believe Jeter had a cold….
not a bad choice, but 2 outs though
“Maybe McGwire can pinch hit…then the clock will re-start on his HOF eligibility.”
——————-
the longer he waits, the more likely the voters will magically forget about the “injury medication” he used.
He already passed the kidney stone.
How many GG first basemen have you seen being converted to a center fielder in the middle of his career like Pepitone was?
Shields has been really awful in his career at Fenway.
Shields main weapon is that change up. But against a very right handed line up with that short LF porch that weapon is really neutralized.
Nice win for the Rays given the problems Shields has had in boston.
the stranger,
nice…
the kidney stone would probably have a small strike zone and might draw a walk.
so i think the answer is obvious.
and this loss for the Sox is just as painful as that kidney stone…
I knew they’d win.
Nice job Rays. Good on ya Maddon. I am highly impressed.
Now I want to read that article on Maddon’s thinking.
gb7-
from now on i’m delegating all the old stories like with mickey stanley to you.
your memory of the actual events is much better than mine.
especially in the ones from the late 60′s
WoooHoooo!
Great take back of the game by the Rays.
Liveblogging the Golden Girls would be an unwelcome sign of the apocolypse.
No thank you.
Oooooh, Gammons looks sour!
Peter Gammons is clearly upset over this loss – on NESN right now.
“Sox should have won this game 2-0!”
BD
Cameron had lithotrypsy yesterday so he’s sore but good to go.
hey random question. does anyone know what song Joba comes out to from the bullpen it used to be “shout at the devil” is still the one he uses.
You could be right, BD – I always thought there was an undercurrent of anger at McGwire – probably because he came off looking like an a s s in front of Congress. I suppose being the hitting coach of the Cardinals will get him some good press, but I’m not sure it will ever be enough (at least in terms of HOF voting).
Can St. Louis finish the job please ! This will be a great night seeing the Mets and Red Sox fail at the same time.
My question was this. (I phrased it incorrectly before). Does anyone remember games where an outfielder was brought into the infield, such as happened tonight, leaving two men in the outfield. I’m saying that I personally never remember seeing that happen before in a game.
The umps probably sent a message to Cameron saying he was taking too long to pass the stone.
Nick, the Girls rule.
thanks pat.
I’m still surprised there is no recovery time?
I guess he’s lucky if that worked and he passed all of them so quickly.
I thought it’s usually still a few days after that surgery before “all” is well.
This game started off as Beckett vs Wade Davis. The yanks damaged Davis pretty badly last week in Tampa. Once they went through the order once they knocked Davis out of the game quickly and then beat up on the Rays pen.
Remarkable how the Sox could only manage one run against a rays team starting a rookie who has been so so and a bull pen that is just bad.
# GreenBeret7 April 17th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Evening, GP. Hope all is on the fast track to recovery for you.
———–
Evening to you, GB. I assume you meant me, anyway. If not, disregard my response. LOL.
My recovery is going very well at this point (knock on wood).
I start outpatient therapy in the next couple of weeks. My strength continues to improve everyday. The facility is both a rehab center and health club so I have pretty much every piece of equipment I could want at my disposal, including a pool, which I’ve wanted to use since the beginning but never had the opportunity. That pool will help immensely.
I’m now walking without assistance indoors but using a cane outdoors strictly for safety. I feel like Dr. House. Started driving this week for the first time since September.
Still a long road ahead but I’ve improved much quicker than anyone could have realistically expected. I guess that’s not too bad considering it’s now been exactly two months since I started walking again (couldn’t stand up at all for two months from Dec to Feb and was confined to a bed).
Life is really now starting to get back to normal, especially watching our beloved Yankees kick ass on a daily basis!
Thanks for asking. It is appreciated.
Foir point, CB. Here is Oasis’s tribute to the Green Monstah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc
A sullen Peter Gammons warms my heart.
Guiseppe Franco
Terrific News! Keep up the progress!
trisha
Didn’t that happen in the Jeter dive game? I remember lots of gloves being exchanged and them having 5 infielders to try and cut off a run at the plate.
“A sullen Peter Gammons warms my heart.”
Mine as well
GF, I’m so glad things are going well. With a positive attitude, you can accomplish just about anything.
After passing a kidney stone, you feel like you can lift a truck, strap it in your back and run a marathon.
Betsy,
It will be very interesting once more of the steroid users come up for HOF voting. McGwire would have been a first ballot guy but now his vote totals are dropping.
It’s probably going to have to be an all or none approach. I think most people feel Bonds would have been a HOF with or without, but should he be punished?
If Bonds doesn’t make it, should anybody?
I don’t really care about the HOF personally because I think at least half of the voters know less about the game than the posters on this blog, but it will be interesting.
So one of the “game that never ends” just ended
Now the Mets/Cards need to cooperate….
pat
There was also a game in which Felix Heredia worked out of a bases loaded nobody out jam against the Sox at Yankee Stadium, in extra innings possibly. But I dont know about 5 infielders or not.
The Mets game is still going on?
CB,
they did get Davis out of the game fairly early (5IP?), but as you said they did little damage.
Just as rough for the Sox lineup was that they did nothing against an equally suspect bullpen.
Cardinals radio announcer just pulled a Sterling lol
Sux color person (not Heidi Watney tonight) to Joe Maddon:
Do you really think it made a difference bringing in the outfielder into the infield?
The NL is a joke !
I watched the bottom of the 12th inning… and somehow, the pitcher ended up batting behind Pujols. What happened to Holliday? They lifted him in a double-switch?
And they let the pitcher swing away with the bases loaded, 2 outs and he struck out.
NL is a joke ! Why is the pitcher batting behind Pujols?
pat, it may have. I just don’t remember it. When we’re in the middle of those kinds of games, everything for me becomes one big blur!
GB, I thought you were going to say that after passing the stone, you could leap tall buildings in a single bound!
BD, Alex has an advantage over Bonds and co. because he’ll be playing for a long time, long after those guys have retired (both the players and some of the current voters). It pains me that Bill Madden has a vote – ick.
GF,
that’s fantastic.
Hope the recovery continues to go well… and it’s great that you can continue to join us – always enjoy your posts.
I know what happened to Holliday. The game should have been over right there.
Wonderwall. Oh boy.
Today is gonna be the day they throw it back to you….
Backbeat the word out on the street is that the fire in your heart is out…
Subliminal message to the wayward Big Papi?
Forget whether or not Montero can stick at catcher. In one of his recent chats Keith Law said Oasis were one of the best bands of the 90′s ….
Talent evaluation… it’s everything…
9:05, second game
Tito with the press right now
Habs score again.
GB7, if you’re out there, looks like Jo-Ram may pitch for Charleston on April 26, opposite Rome’s Vizcaino. Assuming, of course, no rainouts or off days. They’re both on schedule to pitch every fifth day, but not sure if there are off days.
I envy your proximity to that one.
Evening to you, GB. I assume you meant me, anyway. If not, disregard my response. LOL
———————————————————————————————————————-
Yeah, Guiseppe Phranco.
That’s great to hear. Best of luck on the rehab. it would be ashamed to have you share Randy’s walker. He really needs it. Have a speedy (as speedy as can be anyway) recovery.
It is time for you to give up coffee for good:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04.....ee.html?hp
GB
We had a debate going in our house a few years ago- more painful: labor or kidney stones?
Since you have to raise them after you pass them, I won.
It will be a joke if Ortiz gets into the hall and A-Rod doesn’t. Both did steroids, except MLB only protected one of them….
14 inning for the Mets
Come on ! Can anyone on the Cards but Pujols get the job done ! It the freakin Mets !
GF,
That’s grand. You’re on your way.
bodhi
Oh man, I was counting on the Caps and the Pens to take care of the Bruins if they move on.
This is not good.
Series is still far from over, but from what you said about MA Fleury possible injury, I am concerned.
__
CB
LOL Wonderwall is one of my favorite songs!!
Guiseppe,
That’s wonderful news. Thank goodness you’re getting better. Best of wishes.
It’s very good to have you back here! You were definitely missed!
Mets Cards ,this is how not to treat your bull pens. to the top of the 14th they go!
I’m just looking at the Mets-Cards, and, boy, both teams look inept.
Maddon did the 5-infielder thing at least twice in 2008:
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/.....nfielders/
What song Joba comes out to from the bullpen i heard it and liked it and wanted to know what it was called. Thanks in advance
A frustrated Tito. I don’t mean to laugh because I actually like the guy. But I can’t stop reflecting on what Maddon pulled off.
Bodh, that sounds like a great match-up. Every Yankee fan’s broken hearted dream against the NEW FUTURE. I haven’t seen either, but, that’s worth the travel to go watch.
2. Oasis
1. Drive Shaft
Yes!!! Right back. Caps pull one back!
Betsy,
ARod can at least point to his #s since testing started.
I hate the topic, because baseball didn’t even TEST for steroids for so long, that it’s a difficult subject.
People will always say players now are using HGH or something else, but if MLB is testing for banned substances and players pass the test, the #s count.
For me, it’s on MLB to test, test, test and keep the punishments harsh.
Unless we find new information on ARod, I think he’s a lock to be in the Hall. But that’s if he stays on his current path. And I’m not voting either.
Giuseppe Franco -
I am so glad to hear that you’re progressing.
Mets actually have a pretty nice pen… lots of hard throwers who have good stuff.
They have some Japanese pitcher who was touching 97 the other night. They have another Japanese pitcher who looks pretty deceptive. Meija obviously has very good stuff. Fernando Nieve can get it in the mid 90s. That Valdes kid from Cuba has been good. Feliciano is a very good lefty and of course they have K-Rod.
All these hitters look inept. The Cards are trying to give this game away. They had more runners on and more hits. This game should be over.
CR9 April 17th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
bodhi
Oh man, I was counting on the Caps and the Pens to take care of the Bruins if they move on.
This is not good.
Series is still far from over, but from what you said about MA Fleury possible injury, I am concerned.
====
I think your concern is misplaced. The Bruins are not a particularly scary postseason team.
Any way, Caps have no goaltending.
Atta boy Giuseppe Franco, keep battling!
I tend to think Alex is a lock as well. I wonder what the reaction will be if/when he breaks Bonds’ record (still can’t believe I’m saying that instead of Aaron’s record)……
Nick
Drive Shaft?? Isnt that actor Monaghan’s band in L O S T??
Who do these Mets and Cards think they are anyway? The Red Sox and Yankees? Trying to go 15 innings scoreless. The very nerve.
bodhi
Probably right. But I never breathe easy until any Boston team has been knocked out of the playoffs. You can never underestimate them.
imho, David Ortiz has no chance of making the HoF.
It takes at least a 10-year solid block of elite #s, and Ortiz doesn’t have it. Another way to look at it: if Mattingly can’t get in based on his body of work, no way Ortiz does either.
We All Everybody.
GreenBeret7 April 17th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Bodh, that sounds like a great match-up. Every Yankee fan’s broken hearted dream against the NEW FUTURE. I haven’t seen either, but, that’s worth the travel to go watch.
===
I have a friend who’s going. Between the two of you, I hope to get a thorough report
.
Like I said, I’m just going by the every-fifth-day sked. Has to be confirmed.
Ughhhh. That’s the name of the song. I couldnt remember it for the life of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Drive Shaft keeps it real in ways only Big Papi can appreciate…
Mark,
they can throw hard, but are they any good.
The yanks had a bunch of guys who could throw hard (Farnsworth, Bruney, Veras) but that doesn’t always equate to success.
A guy like Parnell was throwing high 90′s heat last season for them but eventually he got hit because he didn’t have anything else.
GF that sounds like fantastic progress. Keep up the good work!
Doreen, I read that article. I just hadn’t seen it done before (or I don’t remember if I watched a game where it was done). Maddon says it something they practice in ST. Pretty cool.
pat April 17th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
GB
We had a debate going in our house a few years ago- more painful: labor or kidney stones?
Since you have to raise them after you pass them, I won.
———————————————————————————————————————-
I’m here to tell you that the only thing more painful than a woman giving birth is hearing how painful it is for 30 years.
For a really good laugh go to http://www.nesn.com Game thread they’re ready to jump, and are angry with Theo and the coaching.
Reyes is stealing the Mets money, he’s all hype.
So many easy outs in the Mets lineup
Barajas, Francour, and Jacobs will get some HRs but are very streaky and can get shut down easily because of how long their swings are.
Castillo sucks. Alex Cora and Pagan suck as well. Reyes isin’t 100%
Bay and Wright are the only legit hitters.
no chance for Ortiz. it just shouldn’t happen.
he was one of the most feared hitters in the game for a while, but he’s on “the list” and his rapid decline coupled with his weak #s for Minnesota are too much to overcome.
Papi has already made the Waring Hall of Fame.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/i.....AA280_.jpg
GreenBeret7
LOL ! Yeah ! Who do the Cards and Mets think they are. Don’t they know that baseball only revolves around the Yankees and Red Sox.
Nick, I had a burger and phries last night in honor of Phil…I could only chew on the right side of my mouth thanks to a temporary filling that was just put in, but it was worth it, lol.
“Probably right. But I never breathe easy until any Boston team has been knocked out of the playoffs. You can never underestimate them.”
Sure you can! I’m told I do it every year!!!
Yeah Jose Reyes is overrated and Met fans tried to compare him to Jeter. LMAO !
Ortiz was great for only a few years – he’d be a joke HOFer.
Good job, Betsy. I think Pat M wants me to visit In n Out every time Young Master Philip wins a game… he wants to turn my arteries against Phil, but I won’t bite.
Time for Jason Bay to become a true Yankee!!
2 on, 2 outs, top of the 14th inning.. hes already struck out 4 times today.
Mike Scoscia has pulled the 5 infielder trick for many years, in fact Joe Madden was his bench coach back then……..Mr. Franco, good to here you’re on the mend…….CB brings up a great point about how the Bombers had their way with Davis & Beckett for that matter……Let’s get through the Western swing 3-3 and all is well to start the season………Nick in SF, I see you hustled Patrick on the Giants over, well done…….Larceny Nick in SF
Betsy
Obviously, Papi aint making the HOF. Even with the Red Sox media. But the biggest sham of a HOF is Jim Rice. His OBP was terrible. His stats were greatly inflated by playing at Fenway. His defense was not great. And Peter Gammons mission to get him in on the line that “he was the most feared hitter of his era” is a mockery.
I’m sure you already know everything I typed above, but I just like typing it!!
“Ortiz was great for only a few years – he’d be a joke HOFer.”
—————
he had 5 seasons as one of the more feared hitters in the game.
but yes, he has no place in the Hall.
I don’t even think the Sox should retire his #.
Pat M is predicting 13-15 wins for Phil, so if you get a double – double with phries, that’s a lot of cholesterol, lol. He must be a cardiologist “at heart”.
Jason Bay is a choke artist. Thank god Cashman didn’t go after him.
Nick:
Perhaps your arteries would agree to a cup of civet coffee whilst wearing a monocle for each victory by Young Master Hughes?
But, then again, I forgot…
Buster Olney spoke a couple years ago on ESPN about the possibility of Schilling and Papi to the Hall of Fame….
And he said YES…
Because the HOF is about ‘moments’ and they provided postseason moments deserving of the HOF!!
To quote Taggart in “Blazing Saddles”: “What in the Wide World Of Sports is going on here”? All of these shutouts and disappearing offense.
CR, I’m too young to have seen Jim Rice…..at least in his prime.
BD, I have a feeling they will retire his #. 2004 meant the world to that franchise………….
GF,
Glad you are doing well.
Ortiz is like Donnie Baseball… he was unbelievable at his peak but unfortunately, his peak didn’t last very long.
Just like Donnie, Ortiz would be in the HOF if longevity wasn’t an issue.
BD, people accuse me of getting ahead of myself all the time but I call it paying attention. I started to suggest that Ortiz was juicing at least five years ago, at least that long, and I took a ton of abuse for it. It wasn’t rocket science to look at the stats he had when he was in Minny and to look at what he was doing in fenway and have serious reservations about what else he might be doing. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, usually steroids are involved.
leadoff double for slt
“Jason Bay is a choke artist.”
————–
I haven’t watched any Met games but I’m sure Bay will be fine.
He may not hold up over his entire contract, but he has enough of a track record as a quality hitter to write the guy off after 10 games.
He’ll hit for the Mets.
But sure, the Yanks are probably better off without his contract.
Pat M: I felt pangs of guilt while making the wager, but the boy has to learn somehow.
… : a cup of that coffee would probably help me purge after the double double.
I’ll have a dried apricot in honor of every one of Phil’s victories ; we currently have a stash of California apricots at home which I am now addicted to. As Young Master Phil was born and raised in California, I feel that it is only appropriate.
Sox knew what they were doing with Bay. Their offense may suffer short-term but he isn’t a guy you want to enter into a 4 yr deal with. Very streaky.
So would prunes, Nick
“Just like Donnie, Ortiz would be in the HOF if longevity wasn?t an issue.”
Yup, just longevity would keep the guy out. Nothing else, no surplus of milkshakes, just longevity.
Have you been looking for land because I have some for you at a very good price. (you’ll need to purchase flood insurance though)
trisha,
that’s probably because Ortiz was such a nice guy
and Sammy Sosa “no speak english”
sure…. sure.
“We All Everybody”
Worst.
Song.
Ever.
In the made-for-TV hell, it plays in an endless loop.
And, after 14 innings, the Mets are still the Mets.
Well this looks like the end fro the Mets.
sorry-for
Whats the Mets record?
The mets bull pen may be doing a nice job right now but that staff is terrible. They aren’t going to give the team much length and the Mets pen will collapse as it does every year from over use.
The mets just don’t seem to understand that if you want to have an effective pen you must have a quality rotation.
They keep trying to fix the symptom rather than the problem.
http://waswatching.com/2010/04.....es-fandom/
I sure hope it is; this guy is the most miserable person on the face of the earth, lol.
Brutal loss for the Mets… and they have to face Wainwright tomorrow.
Guess Omar will not get his wish of 1\3 games this weekend…..
Nick in SF……I wasn’t encouraging Double Doubles with 2 shakes and fries with every Hughes win……Well maybe a spicy tuna roll could be a substitute
Betsy, you guys may laugh, but I love dried California apricots. My father used to by them all the time from a small grocery store in downtown Brooklyn, when I was small, and I loved the taste, loved eating them, almost nonstop.
When I see them in the supermarket now, it brings back all sorts of memories.
Harper M,
that is true.
but the Sox took a very big risk in not signing Bay because they couldn’t replace his bat.
He did very well for them and in that ballpark.
They don’t have a power OF bat in the minors either (that I can think of) who is going to come up over the next 3 seasons and help out. They have some speedy guys like Reddick and Kalish, but I’m not too high on either.
They also have the $$ to spend if they want to.
It may turn out to be the right move, but it’s no doubt a risk.
If they don’t sign someone like Werth or trade for a major bat, I don’t see where they think their offense is going to come from.
What was that ? He swung at ball 4.
Runners on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. Against the Mets, the only team that could squirm out of that jam is batting
Rather than sign Bay, wouldn’t they have been better off splitting that money between Damon, Piniero, and Wolf?
Or Figgins, Piniero, and Garland?
Seems foolish to waste it all on Bay when he clearly didn’t fix anything. Heck, they can’t score runs even with him int he lineup. They can’t pitch or hit, yet they spent their entire budget on a 32 yr old power hitter with holes in his swing.
SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caps back within one!!!!
No sushi, no – ick. No raw fish in honor of Phil, lol
The Cards hitters are garbage. They can’t even beat the pathetic Mets. What a joke !
Looks like the Mets will get out of bases loaded again.
looks like the mets will wriggle out of another jam.
Joe, I wasn’t kidding – I really LOVE dried California apricots; I can’t stand the puffy Turkish ones. That’s nice that they bring back fond memories for you…..Up until recently, I hadn’t had them in years. Now? I can’t stop eating them.
Only one of those shakes was for me, give me some credit!
Maybe next time I’ll settle for a single if that’s allowed.
Who would have guessed it? If the Mets escape and score to win, they have the same record as the Red Sox if boston loses this game tonight.
I thought the Mets lost….
Was is Larussa doing. He keeps the pitcher out there to bat ! What a fool !
Well I think it’s time for a market run. I trust the Rays and all of you to keep order in the universe.
Later y’all.
Y27 – I think Joel Sherman proposed the same thing. It does make sense.
Evidently, LaRussa’s already drunk.
I don’t know what Fox was airing tonight, but they can’t be too happy, lol.
Stat/question of the evening:
Yankees lead the ML’s in walks with 40 (tied with Philly)
They’re 28th in the league in strikeouts with 42.
So if homeplate umpires are intentionally squeezing Yankee pitchers, why are the same umpires being so kind and/or fair to Yankee hitters??
Anyone?
Y 27,
they tried to sign Pineiro but he wanted to play for the Angels (probably because he could see how bad the Mets were going to be)
Damon wasn’t signing for $8M when the offseason started. He misread his market. If the Mets tried to sign him early on, he’d have wanted $20M for sure.
I thought the Mets would use the money for Lackey.
Their offense isn’t great, but I don’t think it’s as bad as some are saying. This is the NL. Outside of Philly and perhaps LA/StL?, there aren’t many lineups that don’t have some holes in them.
THE METS MAGIC IS BACK!!!!
“but the Sox took a very big risk in not signing Bay because they couldn’t replace his bat.”
That’s the thing. That was a no win situation for the Sox. Chances are Bay won’t be a good investment for four years. And it’s laudable and all to put a price on a player and not go over it, etc.
But the Sox had no way to replace them. They really have almost no promising power hitting prospects in the minors to fill in.
It’s great to make rational moves but that doesn’t meant he alternative is necessarily a good one.
And it’s not like there are any good power hitters available on the free agent market this upcoming winter.
They really could have used Matt Holliday. But they decided to pass rather than deal with Boras.
The Cards are a joke ! They had runners at 2nd and 3rd with no one out and failed.
Betsy, I can’t stand the Turkish kind. Just like I can’t stand the St. Louis inability to score with runner on 3rd and nobody out. Neither team has anything to brag about.
So, was it the genius of LaRussa to bat the pitcher behind Pujols?
How did that even happen?
Did Tony overmanage himself into this mess?
BD, I didn’t read the whole article, but Pinero said recently that he was puzzled at the Mets’ lack of aggressiveness in their pursuit of him
If Roy Halladay happens to be watching the Cards-Mets game, what do you think is going through his mind?
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I thought the Mets lost….
———————————————————————————————————————-
I think that you misunderstood, Betsy. They said that the Mets ARE lost.
I don’t really care who wins or loses this game; is it good pitching or pathetic offense? Both?
This is like when Girardi ended up going pitch running crazy and we had Gardner/Guzman behind A-Rod
And for some inexplicable reason, Socisca pitched to him. At least Jerry Manual isn’t that dumb.
they tried to sign Pineiro but he wanted to play for the Angels
**************************
BD,
They actually interviewed Pinero when he was here with the Angels earlier this week and he said that he wanted to play for the Mets. He was waiting for them to make their final offer and they never did so he took the Angels offer.
“So if homeplate umpires are intentionally squeezing Yankee pitchers, why are the same umpires being so kind and/or fair to Yankee hitters??”
double-secret conspiracy?
LOL GB…………
Well the Met’s batters are still garbage so they still might lose this game.
31 combined strikeouts must be nearing a record.
CR9 April 17th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caps back within one!!!!
====
Should have been disallowed. Poti interfered with Halak.
The mets are letting the japanese pitcher bat lol
Mets and Cards 0-0 , top of the 15th. The announcers are saying how crazy this game is by all accounts
BD – when the Angels were in town, Pineiro was interviewed after the great game he pitched. He out and out said he wanted to play for the Mets. When January came and he had not heard anything from them, he said he told his agent to call them. I guess the Mets response was what Omar said on multiple occasions, that they felt the pitching they had was better than what was available.
Right.
This is a classic; I have a feeling Alex will hit a HR in the bottom of the 15th to win it…….oh, wait. Nevermind
“And it’s not like there are any good power hitters available on the free agent market this upcoming winter.”
————-
that’s the key, IMO.
no power hitters in AAA and a thin FA market in 2011 for power guys. Werth? I don’t think they see Paul Konerko or possibly Magglio Ordonez as the answer.
the Red Sox have $$. I’m fine if the owners would rather pocket it than take mild-medium risks on proven hitters.
“Seems foolish to waste it all on Bay when he clearly didn’t fix anything. ”
The mets under Omar just don’t learn. They simply don’t value depth across the team and don’t prioritize pitching.
They keep trying to make the “one big move” in the off season and devote all of their time and resources to that move. Then they ignore the complementary moves that could have helped the team.
They give Ollie Perez that ridiculous contract. And the next year – when they arguably need pitching even more for the rotation – they decide to play hardball with Pineiro and not up their offer from 2 yrs/ 16M.
And ultimately their primary problem is that they just don’t develop players from their minor league system.
Forget stars – they aren’t even developing complementary pieces like Brett Gardner or Phil Coke for players like that.
“No sushi, no ? ick. No raw fish in honor of Phil, lol”
Just want to point out that sushi isn’t actually referring to the raw fish. Sushi is sushi because of the type of rice used. Some sushi have no fish at all, like inarizushi (which is sushi rice and friedtofu) for example.
Joe,
wow, I hadn’t heard that. I thought he preferred Anaheim (though perhaps he said that AFTER he signed with them).
If true, what a mistake by the Mets.
I almost think they should go into sell mode and trade their veterans for prospects at the deadline.
Problem is, some of those vets are very well paid.
CB, Ike Davis looks good; so does Mejia and they have another kid at 2nd that they seem to like. They appear to have more position prospects than the Yankees.
Wow. Carl Crawford just stole third base uncontested. What a shock.
….
That’s right, I forgot, lol. Raw fish is actually sashimi, right? Either way, not an appealing dish to honor Phil with.
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEE!!!!
Caps All the way BACK!!!!!!
Sox need Buchholz to throw a good game tonight.
2 on, 2 out and Pena up in the 1st
not a good start
Wow. Carl Crawford just stole third base uncontested. What a shock.
–
CB, didn’t you read? The red sox don’t care about stolen bases
BD, they’re not going to trade Wright or Reyes; who else would they trade that has value?
Every time Buchholz starts, I keep subconsciously comparing him to Phil. I hope he phails tonight.
Buchholz will be fine, he is just waiting for the O’s and Jays to show up on the schedule before he breaks out of his funk.
Pineiro would have signed with the mets if they offerred him a third year on the deal.
The mets offer was slightly better than the angels. Omar thought that Pineiro would sign given the marginal difference.
Instead Pineiro balked and went to the angels. Seemed like he wasn’t all that interested in playing for the mets.
Similar (though much weirder) situation happened with Bengie Molina and the Mets.
just dug this up on the Mets
“They spent just $3.1 million on the 2009 draft, the lowest figure in baseball.”
They really need to go hard in the draft and internationally to get back up to speed.
They have more $$ than most clubs. Use it.
Yep, raw fish would be sashimi.
I dunno if I want the Rays to blow out the Red Sox this game for demoralizing purposes, or for it to go to into extra innings and let them really feel tired for tomorrow’s 1:35 game.
The Mets are not in the situation where they can afford to be picky about one extra year. Piniero is not Cy Young, but we’re only talking a 3 year deal……..They should have taken the chance.
please tell me you saw that play
Cameron jsut dropped a ball hit right to him
OUCH
Jerkface-
Oh yeah! I forgot about this new, brilliant tactical innovation.
Didn’t napoleon try something similar on the russian campaign?
Cameron just dropped a ball right at him, allowing CC to score!!
Cue CB ‘run prevention’ line.
bonk…must have seen a giant kidney stone coming at him instead of a baseball.
wow,
line drive right at Cameron
he just plain dropped it and allowed a run
would have ended the inning
…., I wouldn’t mind a Rays blowout, lol.
Speaking of strikeouts and no luck, in 2008, a minor league pitcher, Garrett Bauer, struck out 5 batters…in one inning.
What would happen if you ran out of players in extra innings? Let’s say you used your entire bench, all of your relievers, and your 2nd baseman gets hurt and there is no one to replace him?
Would they award the other team with the win? Would they make you play without a 2nd baseman?
From what I’ve read, Mejia bombed in AA last year, then went to the Arizona Fall League and bombed there. For whatever reason, he did great in ST, surprising even the Mets. Will it last? I don’t know.
Personally, I’ll believe in Ike Davis and Fernando Martinez when they produce in the majors. Call me skeptical.
I don’t know, I like the job that position players like Cisco, Pena, and Gardner have done for the Yankees so far. Not great, but they’ve contributed.
Eww, that stinks for Buchholz………how did those guys get on?
The Sox just aren’t going to be able to afford to give teams extra outs like that this year.
any other player and it wouldn’t be as funny.
Cameron is with the team for one reason.
Everyone makes errors but that ball was right to him. He may have had to take 1-2 steps in.
Run Prevention!
Betsy,
Crawford singled and he walked Longoria. (Crawford got to 2nd on an out and stole 3rd)
27 pitches so far in the 1st for Buchholz.
Wasn’t run prevention drive shaft’s big hit in new england?
BD, thanks!
bases juiced
30 pitches
Pat the bat is up.
I also read over the winter that, in addition to spending the least on signing draft picks, they have cut back on the minor league instruction. It’s for reasons like these that I think the Wilpons are hurting for cash. Signing Bay was a move to promote ticket sales, I think; you know, look, we signed a big name.
It doesn’t quite make sense to me. They should just prepare the team for sale if that’s how they do business.
Buchholz arm slot is lower than it was during spring training and his first game this season.
“You all everybody” is really a song about who can steal off Vmart.
CB,
haha
you’re having too much fun with this
# blake April 17th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
“You all everybody” is really a song about who can steal off Vmart.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
““You all everybody” is really a song about who can steal off Vmart.”
————-
haha, I’m laughing harder than I did when Cameron dropped that routine fly ball.
Yet he’s still struggling………that’s a lot of pitches for the first inning.
Met fans are really expecting too much from Ike Davis. He’s a nice prospect but he really is unlikely to be a franchise bat – especially at 1b.
And Meija – you just have to feel for him. He should not be in the major leagues. It’s just so strange and without purpose.
haha
and now I’m laughing because Burrell jsut cleared the bases on a double
4-0
Pat the Bat with a bases clearing double!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The revenge of Pat Burrell.
CB, Ike Davis isn’t as good as is being talked about?
LOL Buchholz………….
the Sox don’t have a longman in the bullpen.
They needed Clay to pitch late into the game after the 12 inning game they played the past 2 nights.
He is at 35 pitches now in the 1st.
Ahhh Geez. Montreal scored… Boooo.
Yes, I do feel for Mejia. He was struggling as a starter in the minors, but leave him there and try to develop him – he’s young. Plus, Jerry did him NO favors by comparing him to Mo – not fair at all.
Bucchholz’s mechanics change so much from start to start. Tonight he looks really unbalanced out of on the mound.
Excellent comedy on the LoHud this evening!
Thank you, Theo Ball!
40 pitches and counting
another walk
this is painful
Two great games going on
Well the Cards/Mets game sucks, but its in the 16th inning, so its intriguing.
classic line from SoSH:
“Their corpses are hitting much better than our corpses.”
Pat the Bat decides blowout. I’ll take it.
So, odds of the Mets-Cards game ending at around the same time as THIS Rays-Sox game?
Bucholtz is all over the place.
Nick, on the Golden Girls right now, the requisite happy ending is about to take place. Next up – the Girls decide they like California apricots instead of cheesecake.
Not to mention, Boston is also short a pitcher because Paperweight is not with the team.
I don’t want to see a blow out. Okay, so I do, but I want to see both pitching staffs get lit up.
Meanwhile, Joe West is embarrassed by the Mets and Cards.
“Their corpses are hitting much better than our corpses.”
lol…classic.
CB, did Buchholz always have mechanical issues?
Insanity… 5+ hours and the game still goes on… The players must be exhausted.
Awwww, that enjoyable inning is over!
Bucchholz looks like he’s trying consciously trying to stay closed with his front shoulder and that’s forcing him to try to whip his right arm around to make up for being late.
He’s yanking all of his pitches and falling over towards first base quite a bit on many of his pitches. More so than usual I think.
Are you guys watching this on MLB.com?
Mets Cards over 5 hrs now ,0-0 going to the top of the 16th. I wonder if the Umps will trash them too?
Clay already at 44 pitches in the first wow!
The Rays scored 4 runs off 1 hit.
The Mets have become the baseball equivalent of the NY Knickerbockers, well not really I suppose as the Knicks have a plan and a GM that knows what he’s doing
RIGHT BACK!!! CAPS TIE IT UP AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Hey guys, also- Ubaldo Jimenez has a no hitter thru 8 innings….
“Boston is also short a pitcher because Paperweight is not with the team.”
—————-
The Sox may have to concede this game by throwing Atchison and Schoenweiss for 5-6 innings.
They can’t use Bard (2IP in the earlier game), Papelbon is gone, Delcarmen threw 19 pitches (prob dont use him) and they don’t have a longman.
They could use Okajima or Ramirez but prob not without hte lead.
Tampa’s pen is tired as well but as long as Shields can go 6-7, they’ll have a huge advantage in this game.
Betsy, The Angels now have The Godzilla Roll……Very good
Pat M, lol – good comparison. Problem is, no player is going to want to play for them so their plan is going to go up in smoke
“He’s yanking all of his pitches and falling over towards first base quite a bit on many of his pitches. More so than usual I think.”
agreed, his arm slot does look different tonight….better actually and he’s got good stuff. He’s just not repeating his delivery and has no command of anything doesn’t look like.
We got a no-hitter watch.. Rockies’ Jimenez going to face the Braves in the bottom of the 9th.
Pat M, what’s in it? Is it raw fish?
Thanks, Betsy, reading “Golden Girls” and “happy ending” in the same sentence just made me dry heave.
thanks for the Ubaldo update
watching the game now
Braves offense isn’t terrible either… Ubaldo is good
McCarver for 17 innings?
I hope he didn’t use up all his tricks in one broadcast….
MLB isn’t even breaking in on their Detroit/M’s game.
Has he walked anyone?
Buchholz didn’t get charged with any earned runs, so his ERA is still 3.00 right now
What a joke.
Nick, there’s no excuse for not liking the Golden Girls; your taste leaves a lot to be desired
Ubaldo has unbelievable stuff, he’s a no hit threat every time he goes out there.
Ubaldo over 100 pitches in the 9th, just threw 98 mph
6 walks for Jimenez… 1 out in the 9th
I don’t care about his ERA, but how is that possible? Buchholz put those runners on – that’s ridiculous.
This is actually educational, until now I thought “Ubaldo” was another nickname for Pedroia.
AJ threw a no no and walked 9; wonder if Jimenez will feel similarly disappointed. Probably not. Gooden walked a lot in his no hitter as well.
Wow, what a play by Longoria…thats about as good as it can be done.
How can anyone not love a guy who throws 98 MPH?
Hard throwers rock….
Nick-
I was counting down your response but had a feeling the altitude would be too high when you did.
pat: which one???
I want Buchholz’ ERA to be high. This is certainly not helping my cause.
Chances are, Buchholz ERA will probably go down tonight into the 2.80 area or something if he doesn’t allow anymore runs, or even another run. Nevermind that he allowed 4 in the 1st, they don’t count against his ERA.
98 MPH on pitch # 126
Jake, you may favor hard throwers, but not everyone has to. I don’t necessarily care about a pitcher throwing 98 MPH (I’m not referring to Jimenez or anyone in particular)…
no hitter.
Well, but Bucchholz did not pitch well in that inning, so no matter what his ERA is, facts are facts.
Congratulations to Ublado Jimenez. Quite an accomplishment given that it’s the first in Rockies history.
Ubaldo Jimenez is just phenomenal. Probably the most under rated pitcher in the game.
I think he’s going to have a break out year similar to the way Josh Johnson did last year.
What a talent.
and Jiminez gets it…. good for him. Guy is filthy… was throwing in the high 90s in that last inning.
Shields 17 pitch 1st inning to Clays 44 pitch inning bwahahah!
Nick,
Your last two comments were just so revolting and in such different ways!
And nevermind his ERA anyway, I recall reviews of his start against the Royals being decidedly mixed…
Congrats to Jimenez……….boy, why is it that the Yankee pitchers have the worst luck when they come close to throwing no-nos?
Sorry, Mets, another franchise is off the no-no-hitters list.
Is Jiminez a harder thrower than Verlander now?
Man, what a treat he was to watch. He hit 98 in that final inning.
does anybody know why no network, ESPN News, MLB, cut to the 9th inning of the Rockies game?
I thought I could get it on MLB.tv but it wouldn’t let me watch it there either.
I cannot believe how inept the Cards are. Just terrible baserunning there.
And congrats to the Rockies and Jimenez.
Jiminez is the hardest throwing starter in the majors. He already throws harder on average than Verlander.
Wow the cardinals hitters are idiot’s ! They blew it again. They are trying to give this game away to the Mets.
What a crazy night in baseball
And a game that started at 4 PM is still going on
Nick is just fueling the comedy fire in here tonight.
Buchholz at 52 pitches through 1 1/3
hahahaha
“Wow, what a play by Longoria…thats about as good as it can be done.”
Well what about the head first dive into first base… talk about fundamentally sound and gritty.
No wonder Melky cast a hitless spell on the braves tonight. Someone is stealing his mojo.
BD, MLB should have broken in; that’s a terrible job by them.
Nick- Touche’.
I was referring to 9:35 being over someones head but I guess “altitude challenged” would describe Pedroia as well.
Joe, what happened?
Betsy, yes The Godzilla Roll has an assortment of raw fish delicacies……Very good ….When he goes yard, they’re 1/2 price….Maybe it was just the game I was at ……I’ll find out next weekend…….
“does anybody know why no network, ESPN News, MLB, cut to the 9th inning of the Rockies game?”
I wondered that myself…
nothing better than watching a hard thrower just throw bullets by hitters like that
hard throwers FTW! jiminez also has some nasty off-speed stuff.
If only you could see Larussa’s face when he realized they are headed ti the 17th inning.
“PeteAbe Scutaro accidentally threw his bat in the crowd. Fans fighting for it to try and knock themselves unconscious”
LOL. I must admit I sometimes miss him.
“Well what about the head first dive into first base… talk about fundamentally sound and gritty.”
You can’t prevent runs without dirt on your uni
Pat M, it’s not for me, but enjoy!
Betsy
I used to love the Golden Girls…2 of them have passed away
I always loved the granny!
Jeremy, How can you call a professional Major league baseball an idiot ???? Just wondering
No Hitter!
Happy endings… didn’t someone travel extensively in the far east?
CR, I know
Dorothy was my favorite because she was smart and sarcastic. I’ll leave others to decide whether I’m the former, but I’m definitely the latter.
Why did LaRussa wait until the 17th inning of a tie game at home to use his closer?
Was he overworked or something?
Wow, Bay has a Golden Sombrero.
What is it called if he manages to get 5 Ks?
““Well what about the head first dive into first base… talk about fundamentally sound and gritty.”
————
You can’t prevent runs without dirt on your uni ”
===============
true and true!
Poor Braves.
“does anybody know why no network, ESPN News, MLB, cut to the 9th inning of the Rockies game?”
“I wondered that myself…”
Fox have the rights they will show it first
Going to be tough to find an arm for tomorrow’s game for the late innings for both the Mets / Cards & Boston / Tampa
I loved Dorothy too!
Blanche was too over the top for me.
how do the red sox expect to win without a true feared hitter in the lineup and quite possibly the worst defensive catcher in the league? any decent team will run all over them.
and this mets cards game is quite possibly the worst hitting display i have seen. they are swinging and missing on 91 mph fastballs right down the middle.
No Hitter
Why would Fox have the rights?
Mets are 6 – 51 tonight with 16 strikeouts
Mark Teixeira shouldn’t feel so bad after all
Pat M
I was talking about the inept hitters in the Cardinals lineup. They have failed so many times that this game should be over.
SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
CAPS WIN CAPS WIN CAPS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks John Shepard
I don’t like that at all but at least that explains it
CR, I liked them all, but Blanche was rather selfish. Actually, Rue McClanahan was supposed to play Rose and Betty White was supposed to play Blanche – I can not picture that, lol.
With google street view, any of us can visit the far east right on our laptops (which are extra-safe while Buchholz is on the mound).
Bay 0-7 with 4 K’s….yuck.
The Mets are going to be in worse shape on Sunday. Maine is pitching for them and he hasn’t been good.
## Nick in SF April 17th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
With google street view, any of us can visit the far east right on our laptops (which are extra-safe while Buchholz is on the mound).
————————-
This might just be the worst fundamentally played 17 innings of 0-0 baseball ever played in one game. This has had everything except scoring. A 90 year old woman in a frat house could have scored before this.
“Actually, Rue McClanahan was supposed to play Rose and Betty White was supposed to play Blanche”
No way!! Holy geez!! I couldnt imagine that either! Betty White, she is one funny woman, I think she was in a Super Bowl commercial this year.
Wow ! Maine made a big mistake.
AnthonyDiComo When do the #Mets and #Cardinals go to penalty kicks?
8 minutes ago
sorry- Wright made a big mistake.
I think they should give the Mets and Cardinals both losses and try again tomorrow.
GB, that visual is priceless!
Betty White is amazing, CR; she was on a soap and now she’s going to be on SNL.
J