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Jeter expects to play Tuesday in Oakland

Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on Apr 18, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

When he turned and saw a swarm of reporters, Derek Jeter flashed a bemused smile. He couldn’t quite understand what the big deal was of him sitting out for the first time this season. It was just a cold.

“It’s really not a big deal,” Jeter said.

The captain has a head cold that he has been fighting for the last two or three days. He was removed late in Saturday’s game despite picking up three more hits, including a homer, to extend his season-opening hitting streak to 11 games.

Jeter was asked if he wanted to play today. He answered the question with one of his own: “Whadda you think?” His response was implied.

With tomorrow off, the Yankees fly to Oakland, where they’ll begin a nine-game road trip on Tuesday night. Jeter was asked if he’ll return to the lineup then.

“Yeah,” he said. “I could’ve played today, but you have two days, so that’s pretty much it.”

With that, the examination was over.

His replacement, Ramiro Pena, put the Yankees on top for good in the third inning. He lashed a two-run single to right with two outs. Pena said the ball was inside but that he had to swing because home plate ump Mike DiMuro had called inside pitches for strikes.

“I tried to get a good pitch,” Pena said. “I didn’t hit it that good exactly, but it was still a hit.

“It felt good. I got the opportunity to play and I just tried to do my job, that’s it.”

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320 Responses to “Jeter expects to play Tuesday in Oakland”

  1. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Beckett was fantastic for the Sox in the 2007 playoffs. However these are the scores of the games he pitched in:

    4-0

    10-3

    7-1

    13-1

    Did they really need a pitcher like Beckett who was so good in the playoffs to win in 2007? Was it really such a good idea to trade Hanley for Beckett? Could probably have filled their rotation much easier than the gaping hole they have had at SS for years. Hanley is a guy who is capable of having a huge impact in the AL East.

  2. Doreen April 18th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Erin & Anthony

    thanks for the answers. :)

  3. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) April 18th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Who cares about the Red Sox. Today was a Yankee victory.

  4. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    “Pena said the ball was inside but that he had to swing because home plate ump Mike DiMuro had called inside pitches for strikes.”

    Pena was seen councelling Nick Johnson in the clubhouse.

  5. CB April 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    (repost):

    “What Billy Beane was doing was trying to explore market iniefficiencies by taking players who had a talent for getting on base and not making outs.”

    But that was part of the buzz about run prevention. It was written over and over that defense and run prevention were the “new market inefficiency.”

    How else can you explain being able to sign Mike Cameron for a two year $15M deal? He generates more WAR than Bay and costs a fraction of the amount! The market is improperly valuating Cameron because baseball doesn’t understand defense properly. But now that we have UZR the quantitatively astute can identify and leverage this new market inefficiency, etc.

    That’s the line of reasoning that was parroted over and over with both the Sox and Mariners.

    It’s as if the 1970’s Orioles, mid 80’s cardinal teams and even the 2008 Rays never existed.

  6. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    REPOST

    RAYS WIN!!!

    __

    LGY

    No, I wouldnt count that :D But I do keep note of any time my team is cheated, even in a win!
    You’ll probably laugh, but in that 10-0 game in which CC had the no hitter versus the Rays, we were cheated TIME AND AGAIN!!

  7. Finny April 18th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Cold vs. Head Cold

    What is the difference?

  8. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Craw, I know I don’t care about them! I just love when they lose. And I don’t need a whole lot of analyzing to know what my eyes are telling me.

  9. California April 18th, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    Josh Thomson:

    You’re a better writer than Chad.

    (Please don’t tell Chad.)

  10. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    Finny, it could also be a chest cold. They usually distinguish between upper respiratory congestion and lower. (I happen to have both going on right now.)

  11. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    LGY, so what? Beckett led them to a WS – there’s no guarantee Hanley would have done the same.

  12. Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    chest cold?

  13. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Wow I’ve seen Peter Gammons unanimated but I don’t remember the last time I saw him when there was no detectable pulse!

  14. xyz April 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    The Red Sox have bat colds.

  15. blake April 18th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    As has been said several times before around here….the Sox 2010 strategy for preventing runs is flawed from the start because of the 3 most important defensive positions on the field…catcher, SS, and CF. Cameron is still a good defensive CFer but he’s 38 and could fall off planet earth at any time, Marco is below average defensively and both catchers they have are awful.

    You can be outstanding defensively everywhere else on the field but if you are average or below average at those 3 positions then much of that advantage goes down the drain. Add a diminished offense and shaky bullpen and that doesn’t instill confidence if I’m a Sox fan.

  16. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    LGY, I was responding to a comment you made in the prior thread about the Sox trading Hanley.

    Rconn, thanks for setting me straight on the Sox deals. Hey, I’ve always believed in Cash, so I’m all for him getting more credit.

    CB, thanks for explaining pitchability. I don’t get how that applies to Casey Kelly – he’s talked about in such worshipful tones- and not to other teams’ pitchers. Does pitchability mean that the kid doesn’t have great stuff, but he’s smart and crafty?

  17. Erin April 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    xyz April 18th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
    The Red Sox have bat colds.

    *****************************

    :lol:

  18. Carl April 18th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Thanks for the new post :)

  19. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Hey, for all you fans of the late night west coast games, rain is in the forecast for Tuesday and Wednesday. :mad:

  20. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Betsy,

    The point was I do not think Beckett led them to a WS as has been portrayed in the media so often.

    Their offense scored 7 runs per game in his starts in the 2007 playoffs. 8.5 runs per game in Beckett’s starts. Their offense led that team to a WS.

  21. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    It is so good to see the Orioles leading by 5 runs. Hopefully that will hold up. I don’t like to see any team start the season with a 1-12 record. (well maybe one)

  22. Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    holy emoticons!

  23. rconn23 April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    CB,

    That’s true. I do remember it being phrased as a new market inefficiency.

  24. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Their offense scored 7 runs per game in the 2007 playoffs

  25. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Nice job, Pena – I like how he recognized what the ump was calling and adjusted his strategy accordingly

  26. Mike April 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    We should probably be more worried about the Rays than the Red Sox.
    The Rays have the same record as we do.

  27. MaineYankee April 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    Nick in SF

    Heading to the airport to bring a Korean studet to a private school here. There’s about 20 of them going to school here. I know you have a connection the the Far East so I thought you might be interested.

  28. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    What a ridiculous statement. It’s hard to disregard Beckett’s pitching in big games. Ask any pitcher if it isn’t easier to pitch in big games when the offense is hitting. Ask any batter if it isn’t easier to hit when you know that because of your starter, not every at bat they have doesn’t come with the game on the line

  29. Sewage Man April 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    I know I’m waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of myself here, but my nose is starting to pick up the sweet scent of 1998…

  30. ... April 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    It was Beckett’s ace magic that got those bats on fire then!

  31. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    LGY: yes, but very good pitching by Beckett was also part of the formula that got them into that position, and anyway, not even a certified genius like Theo can be expected to look into the future and divine that the Sox offense will dominate in games Beckett would have started in a future postseason and thus nix the trade.

    And Beckett has been a cornerstone in the Sox being competitive in the years since.

    Not that I have proven it was a good or advisable trade, but I don’t think “they didn’t even need him to win, look at those scores!!!’ is the most logical argument against the trade.

  32. BJK April 18th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Mike April 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    We should probably be more worried about the Rays than the Red Sox.
    The Rays have the same record as we do.

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    Yeah, but that’s because they’re humiliating the Red Sox.

  33. Rich in NJ April 18th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    The RS’ strategy relies on Ortiz being close to the Ortiz of old. Without that, they have problems if their starters don’t pitch as well as they are capable of pitching.

  34. Mike April 18th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Mike April 18th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    We should probably be more worried about the Rays than the Red Sox.
    The Rays have the same record as we do.

    ———————————————————————————————————–

    Yeah, but that’s because they’re humiliating the Red Sox.

    —————————————————————————————

    I understand that, but if the Sox had won today, we would be in first all alone.
    Of course I would never wish for a Red Sox win. :)

  35. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Thanks Maine Yankee. My primary connection to Korea these days is with its cuisine… I did date a K.A. girl for a while and we’re still good friends, but my only real connection with the Far East is with Taiwan. But good for you for helping out the kids!

  36. tampayank April 18th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    for any College Football fans there will be a major conference shakeup coming soon…Big Ten is looking at adding Notre Dame and going to 16 teams and all other conferences will probably be making moves. Big Ten is meeting today about this

  37. charlestonchew April 18th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Yankees Starters:

    7-0 with a 3.40 ERA in 74 IP

    Red Sox Starters:

    3-3 with a 3.82 ERA in 63 2/3 IP

    That counts Vazquez’s two awful starts, too. If the Red Sox want to compete, they’re going to have to score more runs. The Yankees are just heads above them so far – and it’s usually the other way around this early in the season.

  38. Erin April 18th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    holy emoticons!

    ********************
    Hi Uncle E!

    Here’s an emoticon just for you: :)

  39. randy l. April 18th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    “Heading to the airport to bring a Korean studet to a private school here.”

    maine yankee-

    john deere tractor training ? :)

  40. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    tampayank, thanks… if ND joins the Big 10/10, does that mean no more annual scrimages with the service academies and BC?

  41. BBFan April 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    The way things are going, I would not be surprised if Sox are out of contention for playoffs by all star break.

  42. tampayank April 18th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    yeah it’s kind of weird to have this good a start considering the Yanks have been slow starters the last few years….so either there will be a dropoff or the Yanks could go on a record win pace if everyone stays healthy

  43. BJK April 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Mike April 18th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    I understand that, but if the Sox had won today, we would be in first all alone.
    Of course I would never wish for a Red Sox win.

    ———————————————————————————————————-

    There’s plenty of games to root against the Rays when they’re playing someone else. ; )

  44. Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Thanks Erin!

    Maine yankee have you seen the show american loggers – set in Millinockit Me. Good show.

  45. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    No way to know what might have happened but the Sux without Ortiz on milkshakes and Manny on fertility drugs may have looked like a very different team in 2004 and 2007. (And we know there were a host of other players on the “highly suspicious” list, including Tek, Trott Nixon, and Kevin Millar. ) Those 7 runs per game don’t look quite as safe with Manny and Ortiz not juicing.

  46. countryclub April 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Why are so many of you so obsessed with the red sox?

  47. tampayank April 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    “# Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    tampayank, thanks… if ND joins the Big 10/10, does that mean no more annual scrimages with the service academies and BC?

    yeah probably no more cupcakes…I think the Big 10 is trying to force ND’s hand into joining b/c the NBC contract is not as valuable anymore in today’s world of TV….if the Big 10 goes to 16 teams that include ND….each school could get over 30 mil each in TV money which would top any conference, including the SEC

  48. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    The Big Ten has been trying to get Notre Dame to join them for years and they’ve always declined. As long as they have that NBC contract as well as local TV and radio contracts in south bend, most of Illinois and Indiana, they aren’t likely to move out of the independent ranks.

  49. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Here’s just one more point re: today’s earlier discussion about the Sox going out and acquiring offense….

    Other teams SHOULD and PROBABLY DO know that the Sox are in DESPERATE need of their respective needs….

    Therefore, the Sox should be held hostage for whatever they try to acquire.

  50. Carl April 18th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    # countryclub April 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Why are so many of you so obsessed with the red sox?

    I’m sure the Red Sox trolls had something to do with it.

  51. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Trisha

    LOL @ Pedro Gammons!!

    And your “highly suspicious” list is more like a “guaranteed list.”

    The whole lot of them. Kapler, Reese, Mueller, Pedro, Bellhorn, Timlin, Foulke

  52. countryclub April 18th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Tampayank,

    The yanks are scary good this yr. If they stay healthy they are winning 105+ games. They’re strong in all areas. Speed, power, patience, defense, pitching. Scary good.

  53. BJK April 18th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Carl April 18th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    # countryclub April 18th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Why are so many of you so obsessed with the red sox?

    I’m sure the Red Sox trolls had something to do with it.

    —————————————————————————————————-

    Also has to do with something commonly referred to as “the biggest rivalry in sport.”

    It’s fun watching them lose.

  54. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    “Also has to do with something commonly referred to as ?the biggest rivalry in sport.?”

    Took the words right out of my mouth.

    Countryclub, what state do you live in? That might also help explain your question.

  55. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Like I said, Beckett was really good in 2007. However, what is most commonly thrown around about the Hanley-Beckett trade is that Beckett won them a WS so it was worth it.

    My point is that Beckett did NOT win them a WS. The offense won that team the WS. You throw Hanley into the mix in 2007 and the middle of that lineup is almost unstoppable. They could have filled their rotation with a guy like Ted Lilly for example instead of trading away such a great talent for Beckett.

    Nick,

    Of course, whoever made that trade whether it was Theo or not could not have possibly known what the future held. They could not have known really how incredible their offense would be in the 07 playoffs, how good Beckett would be, how good Hanley would be that year, or even how good Lilly who I suggested they could have signed would be.

    My point was about evaluating that trade in retrospect. It has been largely lauded as a great trade that won them the WS in 2007. I am not sure it was a great trade and I lean towards saying it was not a good trade to make looking back. Also, looking back Beckett did not win them a WS. Their offense was unbeatable in the 2007 playoffs.

    Hanley is good enough to have a huge impact in the division and a guy like him who plays SS is almost impossible to find. If the Sox had Hanley stationed at SS they could have spent their money a lot better in recent years instead of on guys like Julio Lugo. Beckett has over a 4 ERA in his career with the Sox. He would not be nearly as difficult to replace.

  56. Ken April 18th, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    mark it down now – 100-105 wins and the division wrapped up by Memorial Day. We are SCARY good. Reminds me of the year we beat the Padres.

  57. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Also, Beckett was much worse in the 2008 reg. season than the 2007 season. He was awful in the playoffs.

    With Hanley on that team I am not so sure that the Rays are the team going to the WS in 2008.

  58. Y's Guy April 18th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    memorial day is in may

  59. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    By Flag Day?

  60. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Ken, too bad you weren’t around before the season began. We have a prediction chart but you had to sign up before the season started. Take a look at the faith these Yankee fans without even seeing the Yankee greatness in action!

    http://members.cox.net/lsdorgan/2010%20SEASON.pdf

  61. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    I’m gonna go out on a limb and say the Yankees will win 120 games

  62. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    How about Bastille Day?

  63. Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Bastille Day or Bust!

  64. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    Looks like I am out of the running for taffy already :(. This team sucks.

  65. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t think the Beckett for Hanley trade is really worth debating, personally.

    It worked out for both teams.

    There are far better critiques to make with the Sawx.

  66. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    What I’ve learned from that PDF is that stuckey is a maroon

  67. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    stuckey is a hater.

  68. CountryClub April 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Trisha,

    I live in PA now, but i grew up and spent most of my life in central CT. As l’m sure you know, CT is a major battle ground for Yanks/Sox.

    My concern is that a lot of Yankee fans sound like the sox fans did for most of my life. They’re worrying way too much about Boston and they arent truly enjoying the Yankees. But, to each their own.

  69. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    And by that I mean, his heart is clearly filled with hatred.

    Sad.

  70. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    LGY – :lol:

  71. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Connecticut is also full of country clubs! The biggest rivalry there is between Grey Poupon and French’s.

    I do not endorse Sox obsession, but taking joy/glee/comfort in the misery of our ancient foe is not the same thing as obsession.

  72. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    “Reminds me of the year we beat the Padres.”

    The yankees have a fantastic team. It is by far the most talented team in baseball barring unforeseen injuries.

    That said there really is no guarantee that they are going to win the world series. And this is unlikely to be like 1998 because the both the playoffs and world series are going to be a much bigger challenge.

    Just like the Yankees look to be the class of the AL, the Phillies look to be the class of the NL. But there’s also the Rockies.

    And something Yankee fans are just going to have to accept is that in a short series against either the Phillies or Rockies there is really no guarantee of the yanks winning due to the nature of short series.

    In a 7 game series, the yankees could wind up facing Halladay 3 times. Ditto for Ubaldo Jimenez.

    Would the yankees still be the very strong favorite? Absolutely. But that world series would be a far cry from the Padres in 1998.

  73. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    CountryClub, oh you mean THAT kind of obsession. Hey I agree with that. I’m part of the group that lives to see them lose “just because” but always predicts their demise before the season even begins!

    I do nothing, if not enjoy!!!

    :)

    LGY – I’ve been known to send taffy to posters even if they haven’t won anything.

    ;)

  74. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    The smoke monster seems to have taken up residence in the soul of Juan Uribe.

  75. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Good job so far today by Ian Kennedy (he is no longer a Yankee for those not in the know) for the Diamondbacks vs. the Padres, who are still classified as a major league team.

    IAK’s ERA has dipped below 6.00. I’m posting this update now to enjoy the snapshot.

    Nice pitcher’s duel in LA between Barry Zit :shock: and Clayton Kershaw. 1-0 Giants going into the 8th, with a Juan Uribe solo shot the difference.

  76. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    CB,

    That padres team had kevin brown, who put up a halladay-like season. 9 K/9 , 1.7 BB/9, sub 2.5 era, no HRs allowed.

  77. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Not winning something seems to be the surest path to free taffy, in fact. :(

  78. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    The difference being that padres team’s offense doesnt have much on the phillies or the rockies.

  79. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Coke with smoke to strike out griffey

  80. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    Jerkface,

    Kevin Brown in 1998 wasn’t close to what Halladay is now. I know what he did that year and how good his statistics were.

    He’s wasn’t Halladay. Not even close.

  81. Uncle Ellsworth April 18th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Comparing Mr Jeter to Ripkin on wfan – even the mets fans are saying Mr. Jeter.

  82. Someone April 18th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    this blog really went down the tubes, bring back pete abe, everything from the interface to the writing is uber stale

  83. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    Kevin Brown… if you can’t beat ‘em, let ‘em wildly overpay you. :(

  84. NYY626 April 18th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Hey guys I just back from the stadium. How great was Andy was today??? :)

  85. blake April 18th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    The Phillies are much much better than that Padres team was. The 2010 Yanks do have that same feel that the 98 team had, that they could and should win every night. However I think the road to 114 wins and a world series is a little tougher now than it was in 1998.

  86. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    I have to dig up that post where someone self declared his immaturity. I need to have that at the ready for the multitudinous occasions where the poster shows that he lives to belittle. I would think his own words would have a much greater ring of authenticity than anything I could think to say in response.

    Be right back.

  87. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    NYY626, Andy was great was on TV! He really settled down after a little early scuffling.

  88. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Someone better not let the door hit him in the azs on the way out the door. door knobs can get uncomfortable to sit on, I’d think.

  89. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Cb,

    what about a series against Lincecum and Cain?

  90. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Trisha, I don’t know of going into the archives to remind people what they said is really a precedent you want to set. Especially when the point of the orginal comment might have eluded you.

    Friendly advice. :grin:

  91. m April 18th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Ripken wouldn’t sit out with a head cold. :P

  92. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Nick,

    Still needs to keep the pitch count down.

    Just 2 hits and not runs against the Pads and he can’t go more than 5?

  93. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    BD: baby steps?

  94. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    CB,

    Care to expound on that? Are you saying that just because Brown did it in the NL? Halladay averaged 7 and 1/3 IP per start last year. Kevin Brown did the same in 98. Brown gave up less hits and less HRs. Struck out more than Halladay. Walked slightly more. Ended up with a K:BB around 5 which is what Halladay usually does (or better)

    7 CG, 3 SHO

    Its a really representative season, so unless Roy Halladay is doing stuff that doesn’t show up in the box score, or Kevin Brown was doing something that doesn’t show up in the box scor, I think its fairly similiar.

    And Brown ended up pithing 2 games in a 4 game series.

  95. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Nick,

    sure. he’s been striking guys out too.

    He’ll have some rough outings for sure but I imagine the DBacks like what they’ve seen so far.

    (though Scherzer aint pitching too bad either)

  96. NYY626 April 18th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    NYY626, Andy was great was on TV! He really settled down after a little early scuffling.
    __________________________________________________________________________
    Yeah he was pretty awesome after the 3rd. Afte 3 strong outings in a row, im officially starting the Andy in 2011 campaign.

  97. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    BD,

    I agree. There really are a number of teams with very dangerous pitching – the kind of pitching the 1998 team didn’t have to face.

    Forget the world series – the Rays are a very good team. That is very clear.

    If David Price continues to develop and throws at the level he did during that game against the yankees the Rays become an extremely dangerous club. Price and Garza would be very difficult in a short series.

    If the Sox do turn it around, their front 3 would be difficult.

    Phillies and Halladay. The Rockies with Jimenez and De La Rosa. The Giants with Lincecum, Caina and Sanchez. Even the Mariners with Felix and Lee. Heck the white sox have terrific pitching.

    Now the yankees are better than all of those teams – and much, much better offensively than any of those teams other than the Phils (and they are still better offensively than the phils…).

    But in a short series pitching tends to dominate and those teams have dangerous front line pitching. The yankees do to. But in a short series its just very difficult to know what’s going to happen when dominant pitchers are involved.

    Its very fortunate the Phils made that terrible trade and got rid of Lee rather than say blanton.

    But those are all teams

  98. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    I’m just happy the guy was able to get his ERA down below 6.00 — something to build on.

  99. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    “Especially when the point of the orginal comment might have eluded you.”

    That’s fair. But I am still searching for it and will keep it close at hand for the times to come where the point of the comment will have been crystal clear. I have great faith in you.

    :D back atcha

  100. Carl April 18th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Chad Gaudin gets his ring Tuesday. I know he’ll be happy. Also where has Mitre been?

  101. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Trisha, you are one of a kind.

    I did needle you, as you know — do you think anyone else noticed?

    And, do you have any idea why I might think that particula subject was worthy of needling (besides my inherent evilness, Rickesascity, etc.)?

    I would be happy to tell you, if you really want to know, because that topic could be a microcosm for why you sometime rub some people the wrong way. I’d be happy to exlpain it off the board, if you would like.

  102. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    “Care to expound on that? Are you saying that just because Brown did it in the NL?”

    Halladay has an extensive track record of excelling against the yankees specifically and against AL east offenses.

    Kevin Brown in 1998 was pitching in not only the NL but a very weak NL West. Brown never had the kind of body of work against the yankees and top rung offenses that Doc does. When he was in the AL with the Rangers, Brown never came close to putting up the numbers he did in the NL. It was only after he went to the NL that Brown put up those few great years.

    Even more importantly, Halladay just has better stuff. It’s not even close in terms of qualitative factors. He has far more ways of beating a team than Brown does. If teams could force Brown up in the zone – which the yankees did in 1998 – he could be beat. Roy just has such an assortment of ways of being great.

    Brown also didn’t have the kind of track record over his career Halladay does. Halladay has been great for far longer than Brown ever was.

    Finally, Brown carried much more risk than Halladay does due to health. Brown’s back was a recurrent problem (as yankee fans know all too well….). He simply wasn’t as reliable as Roy is now.

    Roy Halladay is a Hall of Fame pitcher and arguably the greatest pitcher of his generation. Kevin Brown, even 1998 Kevin Browns, wasn’t close to that level.

  103. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Ty Wiggington is sick!!!

    Orioles now lead 8-3.

  104. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    Zito has certainly turned things around; he’s pitched great his last 8 or so times out.

    Even in 1998, there was no guarantee the Yankees would win; there just aren’t guarantees in sports, especially in baseball where a team can’t out-physical another team. Just getting by two rounds to get to the WS is a huge chore…and it’s why I think what the Yankees did in winning 4/5 is more impressive than even what the 1950′s Yankees did.

    We have an absolutely fantastic team, but it’s still going to be a close race because the Rays are very good themselves……..and that’s not counting the Sox. We might as well just enjoy the journey and not worry about the post-season.

  105. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    All the talk about Kennedy’s pitching, while ignoring the thunder in his bat. 1-2 with a line single to center. 17 strikeouts in 14.1 innings looks good, too.

  106. blake April 18th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    re: Halladay/Brown…..the difference is pitchability :)

  107. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    :shock:

    Jokes aside, Manny is still a beast. PH HR. ND for Zito.

  108. Rick April 18th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    It’s never a bad thing to step on the necks of the Sux but this year the Yankees need to keep a keen eye on the doings of the Rays who are briming with confidence right now and a fairly easy schedule until a west coast trip the 1st and 2nd of May.
    Right now, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  109. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    No Nick, I think I quite prefer your own words about yourself, thank you.

    And speaking of rubbing people the wrong way, I’ve seen you taken to task on any number of occasions, and by other than I. Of course, I would expect you didn’t notice those things.

    :)

    “Nick in SF April 15th, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    I don?t blame you for taking offense at pretty much anything I say and discounting it.

    So, if some clown like me is too immature to leave things be, why stoop to my level?”

    You live to mock. I tired of it long long ago.

  110. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    That’s where the Yankees depth hurts them – the post season. CC can match up with anyone, but AJ? Andy (or switch Javy and Andy)? Their rotation is terrific because of the dept, but if AJ isn’t on, who knows? We also still have to see it from Javy in the AL/NY. I think he’ll be fine, but it’s no guarantee – just like it’s no guarantee he’d pitch well in the post-season.

  111. Gary April 18th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    We’ll see Edwar Ramirez pitching for the Oakland A’s and wearing #59.

  112. CB April 18th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    One other thing on Kevin Brown – all of the best years of his career took place playing in environments that significantly depressed offense.

    Brown’s statistics really took off once he pitched in Miami and in San Diego. Even before Petco, Qualcomm was a very pitcher friendly park.

  113. mick April 18th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    rounds to get to the WS is a huge chore…and it’s why I think what the Yankees did in winning 4/5 is more impressive than even what the 1950’s Yankees did.
    =================================================
    Didn’t the 50′s Yanks win 5/5 a few times? I know , no playoffs, ok.

  114. Erin April 18th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    NYY626 April 18th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    _
    Yeah he was pretty awesome after the 3rd. Afte 3 strong outings in a row, im officially starting the Andy in 2011 campaign.

    **************************
    You have my full support :D

  115. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 18th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I don’t mean that it hurts them, but their depth during the post-season won’t be as much of an asset as during the regular season.

    What’s with the fascination with strike outs? IPK K’d 8 last out, but he pitched badly.

  116. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    and heilman blows Kennedy’s chance for his first win. Damned Mets and ex-Mets.

  117. mick April 18th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    I really don’t understand the overanal-ysis that goes on in here.

  118. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    PENS quickly up 1-0!!!!!

  119. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    NYY626

    Glad you enjoyed the game today, Mrs. Derek Jeter! :D

  120. Fran (the original) and OPPC member April 18th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Yeah he was pretty awesome after the 3rd. Afte 3 strong outings in a row, im officially starting the Andy in 2011 campaign.
    **********************
    I really thought that Andy would retire after winning the WS last season. So you never know. He may want to come back next season. He says that he wanted to spend more time with his kids, but that now his kids think it’s cool to have their father pitching for the NY Yankees.

  121. ML April 18th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Mick

    You gotta learn your history. The yanks won 5 straight from 49-53 but didn’t win 3 straight again til 98-00. They won 4 from 36-39 but those the only threepeats in yanks history. As good as the 50s yanks were, they weren’t THAT good!

  122. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    And because I am going to stick to what I said about not getting into petty squabbles on the forum since posters aren’t here for that, I will tell you right now Nick that I am going back to what I did last season. I will no longer respond to your posts. So if you want to show everyone what a real hero you are by continuing to mock my posts, feel free. I’m done with your nonsense.

  123. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Not getting too deeply involved in the Kevin Brown thing, but, he was a very good pitcher in Texas, too. Never pitcher friendly down there.

  124. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I hate to bring up the HOF in re: to Andy, but he is really bolstering his position compared to the position of Schilling.

    Meaning, if Schilling makes it, he is making his position more and more feasible/likely. One more year could push him over the top!

  125. mick April 18th, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    Trish, Nick mocks everyone, don’t take it personal.

  126. Jerkface April 18th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    I don’t think Track Record or KEvin Brown’s back problems later in his career had anything to do with facing him twice in a 4 game series during his most dominant year.

  127. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Trisha, the most insightful thing I’ve seen you write about our interplay is that you never really know where I’m coming from (to paraphrase).

    I don’t want to get too existential, so I won’t get into why I live.

    Signed,

    The Entity

  128. Mike WV April 18th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    I knew it.

    Trisha is the victim here; never takes back handed shots or OVER REACTS at all.

    oh yeah — the classic YAWN

  129. Rob NY April 18th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Betsy — Strikeout is pretty much the best result for a pitcher. There is no chance anything good comes for a hitter who strikes out. Contact pitchers are dependent on their defense, field conditions, etc. because they don’t get outs “unassisted”

    Strikeouts are also sexy. :)

  130. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Trisha/Nick

    Come on! We are in the middle of another special season. Rather than being upset with each other, go after Boston fans, like California or Dan!! That’s the definition of run prevention :P

  131. NYY626 April 18th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    NYY626

    Glad you enjoyed the game today, Mrs. Derek Jeter!
    ___________________________________________________________________________
    Haha I wish! I mean for one thing I wouldnt have to go to work tomorrow…LOL

  132. Rob NY April 18th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    lol Nick needs Trisha to get back on the plane.

  133. mick April 18th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    50s yanks were, they weren’t THAT good!
    ==============================
    Excuse me I didn’t have Baseball Reference up at that moment but the 50′s Yanks were damn good.

  134. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    mick, thanks for that. He seems to target me more than others though and I really don’t like it, especially because I don’t do it to him.

    But since you brought it up I’d like to take the opportunity to explain exactly why I didn’t know Kennedy had been traded – no that you asked. :) A few less-than-kindly posters have taken the opportunity to make fun of me because I asked the question one day. Kennedy was my least favorite player and as such once he was demoted, I didn’t bother following his career any further. In addition, I spent just about the entire off season away from baseball and away from the forum. Because I was extremely content with the Yankee world series victory, I wasn’t overly concerned about the off season moves. I knew that certain moves had been made but didn’t pay attention to all of the players involved in any trades.

    So kill me.

    Thanks mick. You are a good guy.

  135. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    CR9, I’m not upset with Trisha.

    Though I wish she would accept my offerl; we are at what they call a teachable moment.

    (a moment of teachability?)

  136. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    ML April 18th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
    Mick

    You gotta learn your history. The yanks won 5 straight from 49-53 but didn’t win 3 straight again til 98-00. They won 4 from 36-39 but those the only threepeats in yanks history. As good as the 50s yanks were, they weren’t THAT good!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    They were good enough to do what no other team ever did and only the same team a generation before got close. Those teams played some of the greatest Dodger teams in history 3 of the five times and won. a team that had 4 HOFers and should have had 2 others in the Hall.

  137. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Trisha

    Nick only jokes around.

    You, nor anyone else, is expected to know every move that the Yankees, or any team, make.

    Heck, a friend of mine, one of the biggest Yankees fans alive, did not know that Cody Ransom signed with the Phils for ST this year.

  138. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Rob NY: very funny! You are correct. Without all of you, I will never escape.

  139. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    “Trisha is the victim here;”

    Just when it comes to Nick. I didn’t claim anything more.

    But thanks for playing.

  140. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Trish,
    No offense but you are an easy target.
    Nick is just sarcastic, he means no harm.
    He tries to be humorous, not always successfully.
    Thanks for the compliment.

  141. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    CR9, there’s a lot of history here trust me. But it’s okay because I’ve decided the best way for me to deal with it.

    Nick gets along well with many posters here and I don’t expect that to end.

    So it’s all good.

    ;)

  142. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    CR9, there’s a lot of history here trust me. But it’s okay because I’ve decided the best way for me to deal with it.

    Nick gets along well with many posters here and I don’t expect that to end.

    So it’s all good.

    ;)

  143. Mike WV April 18th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    mick, thanks for that. He seems to target me more than others though and I really don’t like it, especially because I don’t do it to him.

    There is the first of probably 4 or 5 back handed shots directed at Nick that will come out soon. She will wait for a few posters to agree that she is such a good poster and than straight to the “Trisha is the poor victim”

    Of course you did call him a liar and when challenged did not back it. But again you are the innocent victim here.

    You called SJ a JACKASS the other day, oh I am sorry, I keep forgetting you are the innocent victim here.

  144. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    NYY626

    You are closer to Jeterini than any of us! You share a day with the man, er, I mean god!

  145. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Mike WV

    Do you really find pleasure in joining into a minor spat, and attacking Trisha for no reason?

  146. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Trish is just oversensitive at times. Give her a break, Mike WV.

  147. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 18th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    “Trish,
    No offense but you are an easy target.”

    I’m sure I am.

  148. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Hmmmm, Mike WV has clearly been paying attention for a long time if he remembers the ‘liar/fraud/devil/satan/etc.’ era.

    Mike WV, thanks for the support, but I don’t endorse name-changing (especially having been baselessly accused of it in the past), nor do I endorse commenting on this board for the sole purpose of going after someone else.

    You’re free to type on any subject you’d like; the Yankees would be a good one.

  149. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Trish,
    Are you having a mood swing?

  150. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    “Indications from the New York media are that the Mets will soon promote touted first base prospect Ike Davis.”

    -rotoworld

  151. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Ike Davis? Dont know anything about him, but he has a name that sounds like he could be good.

  152. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Didn’t that already happen BD? Jacobs was DFA’d.

  153. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Ike is Ron’s son.

  154. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 18th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    mick,

    they called up a reliever in Jacobs spot.

    when that reliever goes back down, speculation is that Davis will be the guy coming up.

  155. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    What a joke goal.

    1-1 Pens Sens

  156. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    He kicked it in! That should be disallowed.

  157. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    K-Rod could be done after getting up and down 10 times last night. Better bring up that reliever.

  158. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Why did LaRussa send the runner with Pujols up? He is a genius?

  159. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    YES!!! Disallowed!!

    1-0 PENS!!!!

  160. ed April 18th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Test

  161. hunan chicken April 18th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    I speak for all of us in saying
    Trisha is an air-head.

  162. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Ike davis is a good fielding power hitting first baseman with connection to the Yankees. His father is Ron Davis, one like Yankee setup man for Rich Gossage and the closer when Gossage was hurt in a fight with Ckiff Johnson.

  163. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    one ***time*** Yankee setup man

  164. Trevor April 18th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    How good is Ike Davis? Met fans act like he and Ruben Tejada (who’s hitting .080) is suppose to be the saviors.

  165. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Not much of interest in here when the Yanks are winning. Funny, but human nature.

    Better go to a Met or RS board if you want baseball talk.

  166. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Trisha is one of the best posters on this blog.

    Her enthusiasm is infectious.

    Her loyalty to the Yankees is extraordinary.

    ___

    Thanks for the info on Ike Davis, GB.

  167. ed April 18th, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Mick if what you are saying is true its going to be a boring summer

  168. Nick in SF April 18th, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    mick, there was plenty of baseball talk during the game… maybe people are enjoying their Sunday evenings?

  169. CR9 April 18th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    By the way, all in all, another fair game from the HP umpire!

    A couple questionable, borderline calls here or there, but I think they went both ways evenly.

  170. ed April 18th, 2010 at 7:24 pm

    remember the mandate of this team is to win a World Series. Winning 110 games and then not bringing it all home is a failure. The owner has a mandate to win a title. sometimes i dont think its fair but its life as a Yankee fan. we will be judged on what we do in the World Series not the regular season.

  171. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    ed, some people will agree with you but it’s never boring if you’re winning, just good baseball.

    nick, you could be right? what did you do to poor trisha?

  172. blake April 18th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

    The Oakland series should be interesting, I believe they are missing Anderson which is a good thing.

  173. Rishi April 18th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    :arrow:

  174. mick April 18th, 2010 at 7:28 pm

    ed, we are unique but the mandate is part of our history although their have been lapses.
    we have paid our dues and appear hungrier than ever.

  175. GreenBeret7 April 18th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Tim Britton hasn’t impressed me much, but, he nailed the NY media pretty well, here.

    “NEW YORK — After a 5-2 win completed a three-game sweep of the Rangers and a 5-1 homestand, the Yankees encountered a small issue: There are no big issues with this team.

    The only problems left to discuss are of the petty variety — questions regarding when Mark Teixeira and Javier Vazquez will turn it around, and not if; the extent of Derek Jeter’s head cold; whether Nick Johnson, on a day in which he struck out looking three times in a win, can sometimes be too patient at the plate.

    Focusing the microscope on such minutiae is what happens when a New York team plays as well and as harmonically as these Bombers have two weeks and four series victories into the year. And while in the past, Yankees’ games may have occasionally been bereft of drama, their clubhouse never was. Early in 2010, however, all — in the most extensive sense of the word — seems well.”

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

  176. Comet April 18th, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    Uncle E good to have you back. I noticed you last night. Been back for a while?

  177. stuckey April 18th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    I see the 1998 team referenced a lot around here, and for good reason. Wow…

    Not sure that it’s dawned on people here though that after May 12 of last year, the 2009 Yankees were pretty much the ’98 team.

    Records after that date, when both teams played their 32nd game respectively?

    1998: 89-31
    2009: 88-32

    They actually played 2 games BETTER than the ’98 Yanks the rest of the way after the infamous Cashman meeting in Atlanta.

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