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Pitching matchups in Oakland

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 19, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Tuesday
Yankees RHP Javier Vazquez (0-2, 9.82) vs. Oakland LHP Gio Gonzalez (1-0, 3.38)
10:05 p.m.
YES Network

Wednesday
Yankees RHP Phil Hughes (1-0, 3.60) vs. Oakland RHP Ben Sheets (1-0, 2.65)
10:05 p.m.
YES Network

Thursday
Yankees LHP CC Sabathia (2-0, 2.84) vs. Oakland LHP Dallas Braden (2-0, 2.70)
3:35 p.m.
YES Network

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259 Responses to “Pitching matchups in Oakland”

  1. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    It would be nice to see Javy regain his mojo here……I hate playing in Oakland; it’s just a hideous park for hitters.

  2. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    I’m excited-I have an early day at work on Thursday. I’ll actually be home in time to watch the game!! :)

  3. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Two lefties, but not necessarily tough ones. A good test for our team. Though I hope Girardi doesn’t play Thames too much in the spacious oakland outfield.

  4. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Thames in that spacious OF?

  5. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Get your own adjectives

  6. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    can anyone explain what happened between SNY announcers and YES announcers, they were raggin each other on the air? details?

    I thought when the Yanks got Granderson they would pass on Carl – no?

  7. Carl April 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Thames will probably DH.

  8. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    I’m guessing that Winn gets a least one start in left and Thames DH’s not play left.

  9. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Rich in NJ April 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    Thames in that spacious OF?

    ***********************
    I have a feeling that if Thames will be making an appearance it’ll be as DH.

  10. D town April 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Rich,

    Considering we face 2 lefties, I would bet on it.

    Thames has killed Braden in his career (4-11, 2 doubles, HR), so that seems very likely

    Luckily, Hughes draws a RH so he will have the good D behind him.

  11. GGBG (50 SB's for me!) April 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    Jerkface

    I’m sure Girardi will play Thames at least once – if not twice – but still find reasons to call Gardner the every day LF.

  12. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    “Why are you so convinced that Brett Gardner can hang in the same neighborhood as Crawford?”

    I’m not.

    I don’t know how I can be any clearer.

    I’m posing a conditional scenario. IF Gardner can manage to get on base 35% of the time (CC’s career mark is .335) while seeing a lot of pitches and if Gardner can continue to steal bases when he’s on at a high 80% clip, be a pest that benefits the top of the order and play good defense, does Carl Crawford represent a NET GAIN in production worth upwards of $15m a year?

    .350 OBP IS CC’s neighborhood. So is his steal% (if my math is correct, career numbers of CC 78%, BG 85%) The jury is out on defense I agree.

    I don’t think it’s out of the ream of possibilty that besides slugging, Gardner might be able to hang in CC’s “neighborhood”. If you disagree, I’d appreciate having you define exactly where this neighborhood is exactly?

  13. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Lefties… You think Well, every team’s got one but 15 games in and they’ll have faced 6!

    There might be a shred of thought for Girardi putting Thames at DH in one of those games and keeping Gardner in LF or giving Winn a start.

  14. CB April 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    The yankees miss Brett Anderson. That’s fortunate. He’s terrific – one of the best young pitchers in the game.

    Facing Oakland on the road is about as ideal situation as Javy is going to get to work out the kinks.

  15. Patrick April 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I’d like to see Randy Winn get a chance. He is still a good fielder and it’s yet to be determined if 2009 was an outlier for his career or the beginning of the end for him.

  16. Y 27 April 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Uncle,

    Kay was getting on SNY (on his radio show) for taking calls during the end of the Mets game.

    Said that it can be very dangerous because you don’t know what the callers might say (even if there was a delay, it is harder to administer on TV than it is on the radio) or if they say things like “Fire Omar or Wilpons should sell the team” or something that bashes the team. Considering SNY is a team-owned Network, the last thing they want is their employees to be trashed on their own network. Also suggested that this may be a conspiracy by the guys at SNY for Wilpon to realize what the fans think so they might purposely but calls up where they criticize the team. Also said it might look tacky that they are trying to keep viewers in the game that way.

    SNY, as expected, took offense to Kay and suggested that the YES Network is filtered even more so than SNY and such.

  17. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Randy Winn looks so done at the plate. Non existant bat speed. Although if the alternative is Thames in the OF I guess I prefer to give Winn a shot.

  18. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    From the previous thread:

    CB

    “There are no rings for being the most financially efficient team in the sport nor are there any rings for being the “best run.”

    By this line of thinking, signing Mark Teixeira was a horrible move last year because the difference in expected value generated between Nick Swisher at 1b and Tex at 1b wasn’t even close to the difference in what they cost.”

    I think that overdraws the point. Financial efficiency, even for the deep pocketed Yankees, enables franchise to have more payroll flexibility, which can make it far easier to find replacements if/when injuries, age-related declines or underperformances occur.

    Cash has said that his ability to fill holes has been hamstrung in the past because Yankees had given out too many contracts that were at above market value rates.

    So while financial flexibility may not be a first principle, it is not an unimportant one.

  19. CU Tiger April 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth-

    Michael Kay was criticizing SNY for taking calls from the audience DURING THE GAME.

    From the Daily News article- Questioning SNY’s motives is thorny ground for Kay, given the network’s mostly solid track record for independence and the Yankees’ occasional lapses into a more, um, hands-on approach with YES.

    But Kay rejected that notion in an e-mail Thursday, writing, “I hope they’re not intimating that the YES broadcast is filtered and dishonest, because that is a ridiculous statement.”

    Did YES have a problem with Kay’s radio comments?

    “Michael wears two different hats,” spokesman Eric Handler said. “In this case, he was expressing his opinion wearing the hat of the ESPN radio host.”

    Kay wrote in another e-mail, “I was speaking as a member of the media, and I think they are selling their exceptional announcers short as well as giving up on their team in game seven.”

    As to those who would question his objectivity, he wrote, “If any one crosses wires that that is why I said what I said, then they have a built-in bias against me and / or YES.

    “Whatever. I said what I said and I stand by it as a radio host, broadcaster and the play-by-play voice of the Yankees on YES. Yes, all three agree with me.”

    On his show, Kay profusely praised that night’s SNY announcers, Gary Cohen (“He could call a 100-0 baseball game and make it interesting”) and Keith Hernandez, but he said if injected with truth serum, “They’re probably embarrassed to take those phone calls.”

    He also said this:

    “It’s an admission by the people at SportsNet New York that the team stinks and nobody is going to tune in if we just show baseball, so we have to turn this into a circus act and take phone calls like a radio show.”

    In fairness, SNY has taken calls during blowout victories as well as losses in the past. And surely there is room for a few diversions over 486 hours of regular-season baseball, isn’t there?

    (YES finally added in-game reports from Kimberly Jones this season after resisting for years.)

    The Mets were trailing 11-3 when SNY opened it up for callers. Before doing so, Cohen cracked, “I think we should do it more. We could be talk show hosts in addition to doing the game.”

    Said Hernandez: “There are too many talk shows now.”

  20. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Thanks Y 27

  21. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    “There are no rings for being the most financially efficient team in the sport nor are there any rings for being the “best run.””

    Absolutely true, the existence of a finite budget does mean cost efficiency has to be considered.

    Should the Yankees just pay top dollar at every conceivable position. One could certainly make a compelling argument for that.

    But IF we agree the Yankees aren’t going to do that, then pondering the question of what production they get in LF for $600k as opposed to $16m, in an already historically stacked line-up, I don’t think is out of line. I think it’s an astute consideration.

    “By this line of thinking, signing Mark Teixeira was a horrible move last year because the difference in expected value generated between Nick Swisher at 1b and Tex at 1b wasn’t even close to the difference in what they cost.”

    The logical companion of this position is the Yankees should have pursued John Lackey as opposed to penciling in a homegrown 5th starter, or do I misunderstand your point?

  22. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    The SNY thing is embarrassing; taking calls in the middle of a game is a stunt that a minor league franchise would pull. The game is the most important thing; what a joke.

  23. tex's friend April 19th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    more likely thames will DH one of them and Winn/Gardner will play LF. Gonzales and Braden are not the super tough lefties that gardner would sit for. Not exactly Lee and Lester.

  24. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Gardner has faced Beurhle and Lee before! Free Gardner!

  25. blake April 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    The Hughes/Sheets matchup is interesting to me.. I’ve always liked watching Sheets pitch but think the Yanks may give him some trouble right now

  26. blake April 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    The Hughes/Sheets matchup is interesting to me.. I’ve always liked watching Sheets pitch but think the Yanks may give him some trouble right now

  27. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Thanks Tiger

  28. tex's friend April 19th, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    If javy is going to turn it around, it is here. oakland is not a good offense and the pitchers tend to pitch better in oakland because of the size of the park. i hope he doesnt get crushed again, because many fans will not let him forget it.

    On the other side there is an argument that well he pitches 200 innings without fail. UNLESS he goes 4 each game and gets nowhere near 200 innings. health is irrelevant if he cannot pitch better and last in the game.

  29. blake April 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Kay just said the Sox are going to DH vmart and catch Vtek everyday at some point soon…

  30. CB April 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    “So while financial flexibility may not be a first principle, it is not an unimportant one.”

    Sure. But I never said it was unimportant. All I said is that it is not a goal in and of itself.

    But if you look at how much of the analysis of baseball has moved in, it is becoming an implicit goal.

  31. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Kay should keep his piehole shut.

    He’s got no right criticizing anything within the realm of broadcasting. I’d rather hear Sterling blow 1,000 HR calls than hear Kay say “See Ya!” once.

  32. Mike April 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization. I mean, who takes phone calls during a blowout game?

    And considering the quality of callers to the NY sports shows.. you probably would have gotten an embarrassing call anyway

    “Let’s trade Maine and Henry Blanco for Prince Fielder”

  33. Carl April 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    # blake April 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Kay just said the Sox are going to DH vmart and catch Vtek everyday at some point soon…

    They should have signed Tex.

  34. tex's friend April 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....oking.html

    __

    love it!!!

    drew can try CF no?

    Or they have to DL ellsbury and bring someone up.

  35. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Mike April 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    The Mets are a Mickey Mouse organization

    ********************
    That’s an insult to Mickey Mouse. ;)

  36. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Any game Phil pitches at this point is interesting, lol. Oakland has a good staff and they’re off to a very good start; this will not be an easy trip.

  37. tex's friend April 19th, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Sheets may not be able to handle the yankees taking taking taking. Can his arm hold up to 25-35 pitch innings?

  38. m April 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    I gotta go. Thanks for some good baseball talk on an off day.

    Help, please. Is there a site that updates WAR on a daily basis?

  39. CountryClub April 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Since I’m sure he wont start all three games with two lefties throwing for the A’s, I hope they give Gardner at least one start against a lefty so he can play in 2 of 3 in Oakland.

  40. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Bronx, I disagree; it was a ridiculous stunt.

  41. CB April 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    “The Hughes/Sheets matchup is interesting to me.. I’ve always liked watching Sheets pitch but think the Yanks may give him some trouble right now”

    Bad match up for Sheets. Early in the season when his stuff is down and he’s still building arm strength – the yanks are going to run him from the game early.

  42. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Empircal evidence that Franklin Guitz is the best outfielder, death to flying things!

    http://i40.tinypic.com/2ur5gma.jpg

  43. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    Hmmmmm… how many blown home run calls can dance on the oversized head of one Kay?

    I think more than a 1,000.

  44. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    CB,

    Disagree. Thats a trap game. Infact, this oakland series is a trap series. Oakland is a fine club, but they are not on the same level as the A’s. Our offense hasn’t really slumped too badly as a whole so far this season (they got held down by David Price), and I think atleast 1 of the A’s starters puts up some 0′s.

  45. blake April 19th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    CB,
    I agree…Sheets is basically a two pitch guy and he doesn’t have his top velocity or command yet..I don’t want to jinx the Yankees but they should fair well in that one I would think.

  46. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Obviously I meant not on the same level as the Yankees.

  47. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    you can’t figure out baseball announcers and you’re nuts if you try.

  48. GiambisGoldenThong April 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Michael Kay is a joke. It drives me crazy that the Yankees are the top organization in baseball and have such a horrible broadcast team. I would trade Kay and randy winn for the mets broadcast team.

  49. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....8;c_id=nyy

    Who doesn’t love Curtis? He says all the right things and he’s genuine; he doesn’t seem to have a phony bone in his body. He’s so much fun to watch, especially as he’s running the bases. What a pickup he’s been.

  50. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    “Help, please. Is there a site that updates WAR on a daily basis?”

    Speaking of WAR, Crawford and Gardner have identical .3 WARS!!!!!

    Kidding.. I mean they DO, but I’m honestly not reading anything into it.

  51. California April 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Wow.

    Oakland is good.

  52. California April 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Is this a preview of the 2010 ALCS ?

  53. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Betsy, I’m not so concerned about what happens at SNY but Kay is just not in the position to criticize as he’s terrible in the booth himself.

  54. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    “Is this a preview of the 2010 ALCS ?”

    One could only hope…

  55. jake April 19th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    You know, those Oakland ERAs are looking pretty good. It’s very early, and all, but the early goings have the As rotation looking formidable.

  56. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Noesi after 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 1 strikeout.

    Yanks only have 3 hits. Suttle has the RBI (I mistakenly said earlier that it was Joseph).

  57. Jim The VT Yankeefan April 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Jeter goes into this road trip 4 hits behind Griffey Jr. for the most among active players. He should be passing some real notables on the all-time list this season.

    30. Frank Robinson+ 2943
    31. Barry Bonds 2935
    32. Jake Beckley+ 2934
    33. Willie Keeler+ 2932
    34. Rogers Hornsby+ 2930
    35. Al Simmons+ 2927
    36. Zack Wheat+ 2884
    37. Frankie Frisch+ 2880
    38. Mel Ott+ 2876
    39. Babe Ruth+ 2873
    40. Harold Baines 2866
    41. Jesse Burkett+ 2850
    42. Brooks Robinson+ 2848
    43. Charlie Gehringer+ 2839
    44. George Sisler+ 2812
    45. Andre Dawson 2774
    46. Ken Griffey (40) 2770
    47. Derek Jeter (36) 2766

  58. 7789 April 19th, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Taking calls during games are corny. Even Keith Hernandez expressed his hate for that idea when they first announced it last year. Everything Kay said was true.

  59. Pat M. April 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    The Oakland A’s will come back to earth real soon….Starting tomorrow night

  60. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Trap series… sounds dangerous. All 3 Oakland starters have the ERA edge in this early-season matchup… we don’t know whether Javy will put it together or not…we don’t know what Young Master Philip will bring to the table in his 2nd start… we do know what CC is capable of and how he’s looked his last two outings, and we also know that he was able to overcome his poor Oakland history in his last masterful visit… anything could happen, but the difference between a 2-1 visit and a 1-2 visit could rest on the broad shoulders of one Marcus Thames… or perhaps on the chip on the shoulders of some angry Athletics as they contemplate the spacious talent gap between the clubs.

    Stay tuned.

  61. Patrick April 19th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Haha Nick so you read that Duchserer thing too?

  62. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Good god, the Red Sox haven’t had a lead in a game in 48 innings.

  63. CB April 19th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Jerkface,

    I don’t know. I think these pitching matchups are very favorable for the yanks.

    Gonzalez isn’t that great and he doesn’t have good command. I could see them really damaging him.

    Dallas Braden’s best pitch is his change up. That can be a real problem because he’s not likely to be able to use it against the yankee’s lefty hitters.

    The A’s just aren’t very good. They really can’t hit. Those games between them and the M’s were just brutal. No one could score.

  64. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    I wish they’d give us a crack at Duchscherer :x

  65. Rich in NJ April 19th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    “But if you look at how much of the analysis of baseball has moved in, it is becoming an implicit goal.”

    I think it probably always has been for many small revenue teams, and the lingering financial crisis has expanded the circle of teams that are being forced to make more efficient financial decisions.

    The more interesting aspect, however, is how even small revenue teams have changed their spending priorities.

    For example, we have recently seen teams like the Reds spend huge money on Chapman, the Jays spend a lesser amount on Hechavarria, and the A’s spend decent money on Inoa, because they realize that since they can’t compete with the big revenue teams for the CC and Santana types, they can get more bang for their buck by taking a risk with high ceiling amateurs.

    I think that is a prudent operation of the market efficiency principle, although it clearly carries a risk.

    On the end of the spectrum, we have seen the RS forbear on signing Teix, or decline to complete a trade for A-Rod over a “mere” $10 or so million.

    If that’s your point, then I agree.

  66. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    As long as the Yanks are in the ALCS, I’m fine; I’m not particularly rooting for the As or any team.

  67. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    “The difference between the Yanks last year and their 0-8 start vs the Sox,

    and this years Sox team?

    is that the Yanks were clearly underperforming and there was really no reason for it, minus ARod missing 30 games.

    The Sox need to hope Ortiz hits, JD Drew hits, and their catchers learn how to throw?

    There are clear problems with the Sox that the Yankees of 2009, aside from the bullpen (thanks Phil, Ace, and David), didn?t have.”

    Thank you BD for saying it for me. Major apples and oranges here. Although it’s never too soon for me to write off the Sux I would say that I’m doing it with very good reason at this point. If they happen to strongly supplement their offensive team, come up with some effective catching, and some good bullpen pieces, I certainly will be willing to reevaluate my position. Until then, thumbs down.

    ********************

  68. Jerkface April 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    The entire rotation for the A’s has ERA under 3.5 8O
    Lets change that.

    Also the A’s have played 14 games and 7 of them are against woeful Seattle and 4 against Baltimore.
    Though they did take 2 out of 3 against LAA, something to monitor.

  69. kd April 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    nick,

    you going to any of the games? rain in the forecast. hopefully there won’t be a problem

  70. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    The A’s will crumble, crumble I say.

  71. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Nick and Pat M, are you going to Young Master Phil’s start?

  72. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    I did read it — Pel posted it last night.

    Pat M, I left you a superficial reply to your question about tickets.

  73. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    I hope the A’s aren’t a good change up hitting team; I’m anxious to see the Young Master’s new and improved change.

  74. CB April 19th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    “You know, those Oakland ERAs are looking pretty good. It’s very early, and all, but the early goings have the As rotation looking formidable.”

    Not if you’ve seen the the Mariner’s offense so far this year. The A’s have played the M’s 7 times already.

    They also played the Angels for 3 games and the angels haven’t hit so far. And then Baltimore for 4 games.

    The A’s just don’t have great talent.

  75. California April 19th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    P e t e r – A – b u m – b u m
    got 349 comments in his game thread !

    Before long his site’s view count will be higher than ours.

  76. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 April 19th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    Please read the Accuscore article at http://www.sports.yahoo.com entitled Bay area teams rise. YANKEES are the high % favorite of course, but it goes in depth about the AL and NL teams. A really good read.

    Bos is scored after Rays, any surprise?

  77. Jim The VT Yankeefan April 19th, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    # stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Good god, the Red Sox haven’t had a lead in a game in 48 innings.
    ================================================

    Despite their run prevention strategy they have given up 5 or more runs 8 times in 13 games.

  78. California April 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    Worth noting:

    “Carl Crawford has swiped 30 consecutive bases against the Sox”

  79. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    woeful Seattle??? But…but… THE GENIUS!

    I am going to Thursday’s game for sure, Wednesday’s game for probably, and Tuesday’s game for maybe.

    Pending weather.

    Yanks return to Oakland in July.

  80. Rishi April 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    “Boston optimists will point out that the Yankees stumbled early last year before winning the World Series. That?s true. But they also added Alex Rodriguez to their lineup in early May.

    The Red Sox can?t say the same thing now. And even if they trade for Gonzalez, how exactly is the lineup going to look? Would Youkilis and Gonzalez, both of whom have won Gold Gloves at first base, split time between playing in the field and serving as the DH?

    And even if both are amenable, then what becomes of Martinez behind the plate? If the Rays continue stealing at will, this might not be their last series sweep of the Sox.

    So many issues. So early in the season. So surprising. But maybe we should have seen this coming.”

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ays-041910

  81. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    In terms of rendering to this season that which is this seasons, why are you even talking about Carl Crawford? Wouldn’t it make more sense to wait until the end of the season so you can accurately evaluate where Crawford is (what if he has an injury that he never totally recovers from and it affects his ability to hit and throw – not that I wish that on him.) What if one of the Yankee players has such a tremendous season in left that the Yankees decide that they don’t care to go out and get anybody else?

    Since there’s been nonstop talk about Crawford, I’d say I’m in the vast minority in terms of not thinking about next season. :) But Geeze it would be so nice to think that posters are so focused on this gem of a team that they don’t even care to think about next season.

  82. XLJ April 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Gardner should play against Gio Gonzalez. He is 1-2 with a walk off Gonzalez. The hit was a triple. Obviously that is a not a huge sample size. But Girardi would be crazy to put Thames in that outfield for two games.

  83. RayVT April 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Crawford is a LF, because he doesn?t want to play CF. He would be one of the very best CF defensively if not the best. He has told Tampa that no way no how will he play CF.

  84. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Trisha, you already engaged in Craford speculation/discussion yourself. We even have a non-bet about it! What gives?

  85. Doreen - GTLU Standings & Rules April 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Sorry for being so late to the party, and I haven’t read any comments in this thread. This is a thought based on the conversation in the previous thread. (I’ve been doing lots of chores today.)

    Brett Gardner said something the other day to Michael Kay (I think it was pre-game interview yesterday?) that I found a little disturbing, in view of what would be the ideal of what the Yankees get from him. He told Michael Kay he’d rather hit line drives, but he guesses he’ll take the infield hits. I’m paraphrasing, but this is what I heard him say. This is not a good thing.

    Until he thinks that scrappy hits are valuable, even fun, and until he prefers getting on base any way possible to hitting line drives, he’s not going to be as good at it as he’ll need to be.

    He had a great series against Texas. He needs to revel in what he did and not bemoan the line drives. This is why he stopped bunting. I don’t think he particularly likes to do it, even though it fits best with his skill set.

    I don’t know if the Yankees will go all in for Carl Crawford, but I’m sure they’re closely monitoring his season and Gardner’s season. He’s definitely on the radar. How could he not be?

  86. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Nick, have a great time! I’m going to the O’s/Yanks game on 6/1 (I think that’s the date). My father is going to fervently hope Andy isn’t pitching; he thinks we’ve seen him a lot live and he’s tired of Andy, lol.

  87. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    Doreen, he’ also said he’s take 4 infield hits over 2 homeruns, saying all the right things about being on base to set up his teammates, etc…

    I wouldn’t read that much into it….

  88. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    LOL so now this guy jumps off the Sox bandwagon. Pre-season, he raved about them but now he gives them less than a month. Nice.

  89. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    ?Boston optimists will point out that the Yankees stumbled early last year before winning the World Series. That?s true. But they also added Alex Rodriguez to their lineup in early May.”

    Why can’t some people get that the Yankees “stumbled” with one hell of a rotation and an extremely strong offense, something that’s very forgiving of stumbles, while this fenway team is falling apart before our very eyes?

    And by the way, when did the Yanks stumble? That is a sincere question since I don’t tend to get caught up in temporary Yankee setbacks. I always have my eyes focused firmly on the prize.

  90. Rishi April 19th, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    YankeesPR Yankees will visit White House and President Obama on 4/26
    19 minutes ago via web

  91. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Betsy, I will never tire of seeing Andy pitch and any time we see him pitch now could be the last. :(

    But I hear you. It’s fun to see the newer guys pitch too. Which is one reason I’ll likely make it Wednesday, to see the Young Master.

  92. stuckey April 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Hey, is Igawa hurt, or is he simply officially now a person non grata with the organization?

  93. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Nick, it’s not that my dad doesn’t like Andy, but for some reason he’s under the impression that we always see him pitch….and I don’t think that’s true.

    I’m :evil: as I still laugh at your :(

    Everytime we refer to Phil as Young Master Phil, I keep thinking of him as a jedi knight. The force does run strong in him, I admit.

  94. Doreen - GTLU Standings & Rules April 19th, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Stuckey -

    Yes, he did say that, too. He said hitting HRs is not his game. I’m glad he knows that! :lol:

    I might be reading a little too much into that statement. Just struck me as something to watch for.

  95. gfd April 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    California

    according to beantown sports papers, Crawford has stolen 31 not 30 consecutive bases, he wns them!!

  96. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Noesi finished after 5 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 2 strikeouts.

    trent Lare pitch .2 innings, struck out 1 but gave up 2 hits.

    Ortiz got the final out in the top of the 6th inning.

    1-0 Tampa

  97. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    When I refer to him as Young Master Philip I’m really thinking about what the family butler, Jeeves, called him.

    But I agree, the Force is strong in this one.

  98. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    Correction: Noesi allowed 4 hits

  99. CR9 April 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    California’s BACK!!

  100. Nick in SF April 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    It was a stupid question from Kay — shocker, I know — since Gardner cannot change his approach and reasonably expect to hit a homer, a la the real Ichiro.

    If so, take the 2 homers — there was probably someone on base for ‘em!

  101. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    LOL Nick -don’t you mean his butler, Mr. Belvedere? The kid probably looked like Little Lord Fauntleroy, in his short pants.

  102. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Seems that the term “young Master Francisco” may be accurate as well. I have a Venezuelan friend who told me that the Cervelli family is LOADED.

  103. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Gee.

    How lucky can we get .

    The Mets are on Monday night baseball.

    That’s 2 ESPN games in a row.

    You’d think they were good or something. :)

  104. CR9 April 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    “You’d think they were good or something. ”

    If I believe correctly, they have a better record than the Red Sox, currently. :lol:

  105. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    I’m definitely taking this opportunity not to watch any baseball tonight. I got a little carried away watching all my fantasy team players and am seriously baseballed out – that and the Sux game earlier.

  106. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Time for O’Henry to open up his checkbook so his darling Sox can overcome Einstein’s miscalculations.

    Oh what a folly men sometimes weave. :)

  107. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    A rather poignant moment yesterday ocurred when the Orioles were on the verge of winning their game and the announcers said that Matusz was on his way to win his second game. Well up to yesterday the Orioles had only won one game, so of course that meant that no other Orioles pitcher had won any games. :(

    It did make me sad to hear.

  108. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    The Oakland offense is about as scary as Bambi.

    Doesn’t it just give you the shakes thinking what they might do to our Pitching staff ? :) :) :)

  109. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    After 6 innings, Tampa Yanks lead 3-0 with Corban Joseph hitting a 2 run homer.

  110. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2010 at 6:04 pm

    Seems that the term “young Master Francisco” may be accurate as well. I have a Venezuelan friend who told me that the Cervelli family is LOADED.”

    Apparently, He’ only half Italian as well. His mom is Venezuelan.

    A complete poser.

    :wink:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03.....blogs.html

  111. Alan April 19th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Not being a greedy guy, I’ll be happy with 2 out of 3 in Oakland. Would like to see Mark Teixeira break out and regain his swing, Javy get straightened out and as always, no injuries.

  112. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    GB-

    Thanks for being the Vince Scully of LoHud.

    Your tireless efforts should not go unoticed nor unappreciated.

    I am hereby giving you the first annual golden cyberspace update award.

    Congratulations and keep up the excellent work ! :)

  113. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    Rishi April 19th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
    YankeesPR Yankees will visit White House and President Obama on 4/26
    19 minutes ago via web

    *************************
    Thanks Rishi. I was just wondering about that the other day.

  114. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    Seems that the term “young Master Francisco” may be accurate as well. I have a Venezuelan friend who told me that the Cervelli family is LOADED.

    ******************************
    I knew I loved Cervelli!!! :D

    Is that too Elaine Benes????

  115. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:11 pm

    MTU – :) But they are in first place in the AL West, largely owing to their great young pitching staff.

  116. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Is that too Elaine Benes????

    funny she does like baseball players, maestros, and imaginary bull fighters

  117. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    eduardo carrochio!

  118. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
    Is that too Elaine Benes????

    funny she does like baseball players, maestros, and imaginary bull fighters

    ************************
    I know. We have a lot in common. ;)

  119. Doreen - GTLU Standings & Rules April 19th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    @Nick in SF -

    After I answered Stuckey I walked away to fix dinner, but thought about the HR question to Gardner and realized I wanted to say more. You said it. It was a stupid question; it was the wrong question; it was an easy question to answer precisely because he’s not a HR hitter.

  120. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 19th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

    I actually think ESPN got the top 6 right. After that it’s highly debatable…

  121. CB April 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    When did Ike Davis turn into Jason Heyward?

    There’s a lot emphasis being placed on spring training and 35 at bats at AAA.

    Rather than minimizing expectations the mets are using a 23 year old to pin their hopes on.

    He has trouble hitting left handed pitching.

    This looks like a mets special.

  122. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Trisha-

    Somehow, I have no fear.

    How about you ? ;)

  123. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    nice Mick

    this could place easily be a Seinfeld fan blog.

  124. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    MTU, interestingly enough Oakland is ranked 4th in the AL in batting, behind Minny, the Yanks, and – DRUM ROLL – KANSAS CITY!!!!

  125. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    The Me(t)ss are in a desperate place, there are talks of mutiny.

  126. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Who was here when Cisco was plowed over in the tampa ST game – I had never heard of him back then.

  127. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Any time, MTU. It figures that the only two teams that don’t have radio feeds in the Florida state League are the Tampa Yanks and Clearwater, and they’re playing each other.

    Ortiz gave up two hits and a run in the 7th inning, but got the save, 3-1 Tampa.

    First game Box score

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_tbyafa_1

  128. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    unc, how was the tampa trip?

  129. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Trisha-

    I noticed that about Oakland.

    But fame is fleeting, and Oakland is certainly entitled to their 15 minutes in the Sun, right ? ;)

  130. California April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    So they calling this the
    P e t e r A b u m b u m
    curse?

  131. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “The Mets were trailing 11-3 when SNY opened it up for callers.”

    ————-

    wait til Richard Christie and Sal Governale hear about this

    uh oh….

  132. Bronx Jeers April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “YankeesPR Yankees will visit White House and President Obama on 4/26″

    Poor Phil. He’s likely to feel ashamed.

    He hasn’t made it back there since he & Jenna Bush were in the same equestrian class.

  133. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    The A’s are quaking in their spike as we speak

  134. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    I don’t know if the Mets are raising expectations as it’s not like Davis made the team out of ST. Met fans are pinning their hopes on this kid – he’s their savior.

  135. Jim The VT Yankeefan April 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    # BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 14 April 19th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

    I actually think ESPN got the top 6 right. After that it’s highly debatable…
    ===================================================

    It is so tough to value teams early in a season. You sort of have to look at it like college football and weigh the strength of their opponents. On that count the Yanks are doing well by beating good teams. I’ll be interested to see how 5-10 on that list play going forward.

  136. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    eduardo carrochio!

    ********************
    Nice!

    :lol:

  137. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    “The Me(t)ss are in a desperate place, there are talks of mutiny”

    Too bad Bogart is no longer alive to star in that sequel.

    We could substitute two baseballs for the steel balls. :)

  138. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Bringing up Davis is a PR move as much as anything. I hear attendance is down.
    We just own NY.

  139. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    MTU – we have nothing to fear but fear itself!!!

    :)

    That said, Oakland is the kind of team I don’t take for granted because if their pitching is as tough as it is said to be, they don’t need an abundance of offense. Heck I’d rather have close, tightly played games than laughers any day. Well maybe every once in a while, when we’re playing the Suxers!

  140. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Mick is was great
    good food,
    My nephew got Mo’s autograph,
    kids had fun
    I highly reccommend it – but would go to only one game at Legends and go to away games too

  141. Pat M. April 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Nick in SF……I’m still seeking approval from the Boss ( my wife ) , as she’s still slightly miffed at my disappearance act a few weeks ago when a few friends and I decided to fly out to Vegas………It were a weekend I could pull in off as a Lovey Dovey Sweethearts trip to San Francisco…….It could still be a Wednesday morning decision……I am looking for flights from John Wayne as we speak……..Of course I have to make a Lefty O’Doull’s run for Pastrami & Corned Beef to bring back……

  142. Erica - always OPPC April 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Erin-

    You can never be too Elaine Benes.
    (Unless you are on a dance floor)

  143. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 14 April 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Jim in VT,

    Oh I agree…

    I certainly don’t put much stock in April ESPN Power Rankings… but I did think it seemed about right based on the early going.

    You’re right, 5-10 on that list could be interesting. It’s surprising that the White Sox (#25 on the list) have started so poorly. There are a few other surprises but it’s been mostly business as usual in the 1st two weeks.

  144. CB April 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Omar’s explanation for why they called up Davis was so painful. What are they doing at Shea?

  145. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    “it was the Strawberries, I proved it with sabermetric logic”

    great movie

  146. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    erin, i know you are a seinfeld expert.
    what is the “is that too Elaine Benes,” reference?

  147. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    What did Omar say, CB?

  148. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Trisha-

    No one is taking Oak Land for granted least of all I.

    Net Net we’re just much better. That’s all.

    Cream always rises to the top, and lead tends to sink. ;)

  149. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Let me guess, the Yankees were #5 on the list?

  150. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    MTU, I’m a big fan of the almost rans and the never rans. I love to see the more unheralded teams having their day in the sun. Good for them, good for baseball.

    Speaking of which, a shout out to my Nats who are playing 500 ball and are 2 games ahead of the Mets!!!

    :)

  151. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    I respect any team that we play, no matter how bad they may be.

  152. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Erica – always OPPC April 19th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    Erin-

    You can never be too Elaine Benes.
    (Unless you are on a dance floor)

    **********************
    thank you!

    I’m not the greatest dancer, but I like to think I’m a little better than Elaine. lol

  153. CB April 19th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Betsy-

    I just heard it. I can’t really explain it. It was just a mumble of words that didn’t have any direction.

    Kind of like the team, actually.

  154. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Trisha-

    That’s cool.

    Just let them shine when they aren’t playing the Yankees. ;)

  155. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    uncle, try kissimmmee (astros) and orlando,braves. Joker marchand (tigers) in lakeland might be the oldest stadium , worth the trip even if no games, in fact i enjoyed those trips even moreso than the games, more interaction and autographs.

  156. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
    erin, i know you are a seinfeld expert.
    what is the “is that too Elaine Benes,” reference?

    ************************
    It’s because Elaine was money hungry when it came to men, and when I found out Cervelli’s family is loaded, that made him even more attractive than he already is :)

  157. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    “Trisha-

    No one is taking Oak Land for granted least of all I.

    Net Net we?re just much better. That?s all.

    Cream always rises to the top, and lead tends to sink. ”

    Net Net we are so good it’s scary. Only because I know that statistically we will lose games here and there, I figure it could show up with a team like Oakland. And then again, it might not! Fran and I are going to go into superstition mode tomorrow night in an attempt to help Javy over the hump.

    :)

  158. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    “in fact i enjoyed those trips even moreso than the games, more interaction and autographs.”
    I agree I could not “get into” the games so much. The other stuff is why I would go back.

  159. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    LOL CB – if it was that bad, I wonder if Omar really wanted to call up Davis. If he had any conviction that this was the right move, wouldn’t he have made that clear? If you don’t believe in something, then it’s hard to explain it away; if you do, then it’s easy. Maybe they’re desperate, who knows? The fans are aggravated; one caller said he’d rather lose with the young guys than win with the Castillos, etc… That was ridiculous of course, but I think it speaks to the frustration they are feeling about the team.

    I’m still not over Manuel warming K-Rod up 8 times on Saturday…

  160. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    That Wilpon, Omar, Jerry trio ranks as one of the best comedy teams in baseball.

  161. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    I have said on here before that I do not think Crawford is an elite player or necessarily “worth” $16 million a year. However, it could be a smart decision for the Yankees to go above the amount he is worth in order to have Carl Crawford on the team. You cannot build a team based on their WAR values or the exact number you value that player at. It seems that Theo has been doing that for a few years now. It seems that he identifies a player’s value in a vacuum and determines this is the max amount I will pay for that guy regardless of other variables. He has gotten burned with that a few times and got burned big time with Tex over $10 million. Losing out on Tex has had a huge effect on their franchise because Theo “set his value” on him. Theo may end up now spending even more in net value with prospects and money to make up for losing Tex.

    With Crawford, the Yankees could very well realize he is not worth elite money but value him so much that they are willing to pay a few million more a year to have him. And, there actually are a few reasons why the Yankees would value Crawford above his worth.

    First, the plan seems to break in Montero next year. As we all know there is no one in the Yankees system close to Montero right now. Montero becoming a successful major leaguer for the Yankees can be an immensely important gain for them. The Yankees should and will very likely do everything in their power to make Montero’s transition as smooth as possible and have as little pressure as possible on him. With Crawford in the lineup compared to Gardner, it takes a lot of the spotlight off of him where he can “hide” in the 9-hole.

    Next, Swisher is signed through 2011 with a club option at 10 million for 2012. What they think about Swisher as compared to Crawford will probably have a lot to do with what they do with Swish. We all know how big LF in YS is, so the Yankees could very well value the player they have in LF much more than the guy they have in RF. Therefore, they could buy Swish out for 1 million at the end of 2011 instead of extending him. RF could also be a spot where Montero would be more suited to move than LF in YS if he does not work out at C. RF is probably a better spot for even Jeter to move if he cannot hold up at SS because of how small it is at YS. Basically RF is just a better spot given its size compared to LF in YS to keep open for rookies and position changes. You cannot leave RF open unless LF is secure if you are the Yankees.

    Finally and probably most importantly the amount of talent in the OF across baseball right now is almost embarrassingly bad. Factor in the guys who are locked up long term and the Yankees will have very limited opportunities to upgrade their OF via the FA market in the next 3-4 years. There is really no one very attractive at all other than Crawford until Sizemore, BJ Upton, and Kemp presumably hit the market following the 2012 season. It is far from a guarantee any of those guys hit the market and those guys are not that much better than Crawford (if they are) to wait for 3 years on. In general, the Yankees do not have a lot of positions where they have flexibility to upgrade in the next 3-4 years. Almost every position is locked up long term except for the rotation and corner OF. The Yankees always have money to spend. It is just a question of where they are going to spend it.

  162. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Trisha-

    “Fran and I are going to go into superstition mode tomorrow night in an attempt to help Javy over the hump.”

    It can’t hurt.

    I’ll get out my lucky rock and rabbit’s foot, and I’ll consider wearing a power color. :)

  163. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 19th, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    That is probably the longest post I have every written and did not realize it was that long. Sorrry!

  164. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    LGY-

    Is that part of your damn dissertation ! Yikes Man. :)

  165. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    don’t be too hard on the Mets – this situation is similar to when Cano was bought up –

    good luck to the kid

    I hope the mets get better – the season is more fun when they are doing well

  166. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Erin I hope you are a better dancer than Elaine. Her “little kicks” were pathetic.

  167. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    “That Wilpon, Omar, Jerry trio ranks as one of the best comedy teams in baseball.”

    so true – I would defect to the Yanks if I were a Met fan

  168. LGY - Child Prodigy/GB7's Bestest Buddy April 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    MTU,

    It is an excerpt from my final paper with Bill. Graduation is soon. Been working on that bad boy for a while.

    In all seriousness, it did not even feel close to that long writing it because I was doing other things as I was writing it. Again sorry to fill the thread with such a long post :(

  169. Joe from Long Island April 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    I might watch the Mets tonight just to see the Ike Davis Show. Personally, I think they’re putting way too much pressure to succeed on him.

    Jose Reyes, David Wright, Daniel Murphy, F Martinez, and now Ike Davis. So far, the only one who’s performed up to expectations is Wright, and I think he feels the pressure sometimes. Reyes, for all his talent, has not been anywhere near consistent, in my opinion.

    The kid seems like he’s a nice enough guy, I just hate to see him treated in less than optimal fashion.

  170. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:35 pm

    “I respect any team that we play, no matter how bad they may be.”

    Because I know that there are positive aspects to all team and therefore refuse to call any team bad (just my thing) I absolutely respect the teams that we play and respect the unsuccessful ones even more than the successful ones because I think it takes a whole lot more for them to have to get up for 162 games than it is for the successful ones.

    (My inbred subjectivity when it comes to the Sux puts them in special category. )

  171. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    The Mets are like a former great movie “Gone with the Wind”.

    They need to be fumigated, and rebuilt from the top down.

    What Minaya has done to that team ought to be criminal.

    Think wasteland.

  172. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    Erin I hope you are a better dancer than Elaine. Her “little kicks” were pathetic.

    **************************
    I’m definitely not the best dancer. But I stay away from doing the “little kicks”.

  173. Uncle Ellsworth April 19th, 2010 at 6:37 pm

    I’d like to take this time to thank God and my Father for making me a Yankee Fan.

  174. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Why do you hate the RS with such passion Trisha? I know we all despise them but you moreso. Is it the proximity?

  175. Erin April 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    New Post: Sorry Mr. President, that number is taken

  176. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm

    Uncle E, well put. my sentiments as well.

  177. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Uncle-

    Be careful. It’s bad JuJu to be invoking Yankee spirits unless there is an emergency. :)

  178. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    mick, I grew up loving the Yankees because my mom was born in NY and my grandpa was a huge Yankee fan, as was my mom’s entire family. I got it from them. The rest of my family roots for the Sux. My godparents (mom’s sister and her husband) took me to Yankee games all the time.

    The proximity DEFINITELY is part of it.

  179. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    trenton against NH and Kyle Drabek go down in order…Krum, Adams and Romine.

    Ryan Pope is pitching for Trenton

  180. mick April 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Well then now I understand. I guess your Dad was a Sox fan.

  181. MTU (aka GBURL) April 19th, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    GB-

    Ryan Pope seems good.

    Any future role with the Parent club ?

  182. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Bottom of the first, Pope sets the side down, 0 hits, 1 walk.

  183. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    mick, my dad was really not a sports follower at all, except for golf. It was just a natural thing for most people in RI, unless they had something else going on in their families, to be Sux fans. So my brothers and sisters just went in that direction. I picked it rooting for the Yankees from my mom’s side, but also because I was always close to my godparents.

    Because baseball was a passion with my mom’s family but not any other sport that I can remember, my mom was a Pat’s fan and a Celtic’s fan. (She was very fair that way. :) ) I on the other hand picked up the anti-Boston mentality that caused me to root against all Boston teams.

  184. GreenBeret7 April 19th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Hard to say, MTU, but probably not. Too bad. The Yanks could get some converts. He’s from Savannah and is the first pro athlete from Savannah College Of Art And Design.

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