Up next for Vazquez
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 20, 2010 
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It’s 9 a.m. here in California, which mean’s we’re 10 hours away from Javier Vazquez’s attempt to get his season back on track against the Oakland A’s. As Josh wrote in today’s paper, Vazquez is working through some mechanical issues.
“It’s easily correctable,” Vazquez said. “This is something I’ve done pretty much all of my career. That’s my key. Sometimes I get away from it and then have to remind myself to get back to it.”
At 9-5, Oakland has been one of the better teams in the league the first two weeks. Like the Yankees, they won series against their division rivals — the Mariners and Angels — and they’ve since taken three of four against the lowly Orioles.
Despite how well they’re playing, there is good news for Vazquez.
Mark Ellis is a career .188 hitter against him. Eric Chavez, a career .100 hitter. Kurt Suzuki, .111. Kevin Kouzmanoff, .167.
Those are the only A’s with more than five career at-bats against Vazquez, and so far none of them has had consistent success. At this point, I’m sure Vazquez will take all of the help he can get.
Associated Press photo
They are now reporting that its a pitcher: http://bbp.cx/article.php?articleid=10613
I hope Javy figures it out.
I saw a poll question somewhere (espn.com?) asking if Javy’s a whiner. I see a little of it, but it could be that he’s been on the defensive from the get go.
Who is “they” ?
Doris,
Please. make up your mind.
Since everybody in the media’s initial instinct is to hate the NY team and hope the NY team fails, then I’ll believe Craig Calca for reporting it’s not a NY player….
But then again, he could be intentionally trying to give peace of mind to NY fans, only to have them devastated later. Hmmm….
Weather forecast looks bad for the West Coast this week. Hope there aren’t too many delays for thunder storms as that will make it even harder to get up the next morning.
Erin thanks.
Re-post:
To quote from Princess Bride – “…Let me sum up” the PED conversation.
There may or may not be a PED suspension coming.
The player may or may not be from NY, play in NY, have relatives in NY.
The player may big a big name, a semi-big name, or a small name.
The player’s name may have anywhere from 2 to 20 letters in it.
Will Carroll is a good writer and a not so good writer who may or may not have graduated or earned a degree.
Craig Calceterra is either right or wrong and thinks the NY media may either be right or wrong.
Uhh – how many more hours to the game?
Javy will figure it out. It’s good that it’s easily correctable.
Welcome to California Chad, Sorry about the rain. haha Hopefully it clears up. Ive got tickets for tomorrows and thursdays games
Maybe it’s Chavez. I thought his back had completely given out on him. Probably needs the PEDs just to stand up straight.
Ben Sheeeeets
Vazquez hasn’t been getting on top of the ball. His front side is opening up sooner than his throwing arm. He’s been disconnected and getting under the ball.
Hopefully he can correct this. If it’s only an issue of him slowing down his delivery then that should be correctable.
Vazquez in the past has added velocity as the season has gone on. But right now where he’s off a tick or two he’s going to need to be better with his command and location.
It’s Adrian belTRE! Carlos belTRAN!
And Javy is pronounced Hey-Vee, the famous brilliant Alex Hah!-Vee
Sorry- I posted an article from Will Carroll’s Twitter: http://twitter.com/injuryexpert
In his feed you can see an article that is now not loading. That article stated that the suspended player is a pitcher.
Or maybe it is a guy with “ped” in his name like Pedroia. He is actually a semi-big (looking at the glass half full) guy.
oops…not Hah!-Vee
Here’s the copy from Will Carroll so everyone can read what was said for themselves:
“I hate covering these but for over a month, I’ve been getting whispers that there was a PED suspension being appealed. The process can be an extensive one, involving hearings and testimony, as well as some negotiation. There’s no room to “plead down” on a positive test, so the attack is usually on Christiane Ayotte and her Montreal lab. Yesterday, I learned that a high-ranking baseball executive spoke off the record about the suspension being announced. He said it was a pitcher, but I couldn’t get any solid confirmation of that fact by the time I posted on Twitter. (And yes, I did feel some pressure to get this out, but I also realized that by doing so, I was pretty much guaranteeing that someone else would break the name first.) I feel very confident in my information on this, but still have no idea about the name or the substance (though it’s not an amphetamine.) It’s pretty amazing that in a world where the new iPhone is pictured on the net, that baseball could sneak through the entire multi-week process with no leaks. That speaks well of the process put in place by the OIC and the MLBPA. While I expect the announcement today, baseball moves at its own pace”
Ten minutes ago ,in SF it was foreboding. Now it’s sunny. Later, there will be rain. I’m going tonight and tomorrow, bundled up, hoping for the best. Rain checks are a major hassle when you’re back on Long Island.
Well, I wish Javy the best of luck tonight and hope that he locks down a win and gains a bit of confidence.
OK, I don’t visit that often, but I went to Pete Abe’s blog just for kicks seeing how the Sux are doing so horribly to start the season. I read this post entitled Red Sox Searching for Answers, or something to that effect. Then I went to the comments section. Dear Lord! I thought the bridge jumpers on the LoHud blog were bad enough, but they have it down to a scientific art up in Boston. Most amusing.
BTW – there is an actual game going on now in the Yanks system
The Tampa team is leading 1-0. Adam Warren pitching a one hit shutout through five. Corban Joseph has a hit after a very big day yesterday. Would be nice to see him get on track.
And Scranton gets underway in about 30 minutes.
Romulo (i personally don’t know why he is starting and not relieving) Sanchez gets the start.
The weather is not very nice in the bay area. The rain for the most part has stopped, but more is expected later today. I’m sure many of us will do our best to keep the weather updates coming for everybody here.
For those of you who have tickets to the series, I’m very jealous! When tickets went on sale to the public, I was not in a position to purchase any.
Five iron – I think the Yankees philosophy is to start all pitchers off as starters. I guess they feel that this gives them every chance to strike gold.
Five iron – I think the Yankees philosophy is to start all pitchers off as starters. I guess they feel that this gives them every chance to strike gold.
Hey Chad, I’m catching up on some of the last few posts, one thing I had to comment on is people giving you grief about liking 2 movies. Are you people really serious or is it just that your bored and like to make waves?
I mean you mentioned 2 films, neither which I have seen but plan on catching. This is no place for people to criticize such a small sampling. IMDB.com gave “Pirate Radio” a 7.5. I have generally found that anything over 5.5 is usually worth checking out. Keep posting this stuff Chad, most of us find it interesting and only the real morons would call you on it, unless of course there is a major pattern forming
any idea when the rain returns?
A 10 PM east coast start time is bad enough, but a two hour rain delay really blows.
Bad News for Sox.
“Mike Cameron might require surgery on his strained abdomen that would sideline the 37-year-old outfielder for at least a month.
The news comes via ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes.”
Mike_Boston April 20th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I mean you mentioned 2 films, neither which I have seen but plan on catching.
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Definitely check them out-they’re both really good!!
I haven’t been to Pete’s site in a while. Last I went was ST, and they were flying high on their Best Starting 3 in the Bigs moniker.
I noticed from some of the posts here, that Pete hasn’t lost his sense of humor. Which is a good thing. He took a lot of abuse for that here. And he’ll likely take abuse from his hometown, too.
One thing that always struck me as funny, is that he loved to perpetuate the “Fenway drunken fan” stereotype here. Does he still do that on his (not so) new blog? How long before he slips into the everyone loves the loveable loser tone?
Mike_Boston,
I agree. If people didn’t like those movies and want to give their opinion, whatever.
But to criticize Chad for his movie opinions??? Good grief.
Jenny-The rain is schedule to return sometime this afternoon. Can’t give you an exact time.
My gut feeling is the game will be played. Might not be under the “best” baseball conditions, but the game should be played.
As long as I don’t have to hear about another Springsteen concert, I’m fine with whatever the guys post!
well, now at least Sox fans can say this to make themselves feel better:
“we would have won the division if only Cameron and Ellsbury hadn’t been hurt”
Josh Reddick replaces Cameron. He’s 7 for 39 with a .179 avg. Last year he batted .169 he’s improved ,bwahahahah!
Beltre took Ellsbury out and the sox are so for 2-6 without their leadoff batter.
The interesting thing about the Cameron injury and the Reddick call up is now Reddick will be seen at the major league level and possibly exposed as another overhyped product of Gammons.
If he doesn’t do well or shows no promise at the major league level, it’s another slap against their vaunted prospect base being used for Gonzales since Reddick is supposed to be one of the bigger chips after Casey Kelly.
Sox still have plenty of offense even without Cameron
Pedroia has like 5 HRs and has been mashing the ball
Varitek has been on fire to start the season as well
Youk is Youk
Martinez is a very good hitter
Ortiz is still scary
Beltre is hitting the ball well
Drew is an underrated hitter when he is healthy
Hermedia has actually hit the ball begtter than most of the starters
They are still fine on offense
http://kron4.com/Weather/tabid/56/Default.aspx
SF Bay Area weather-Scroll down and look at “storm tracker” radar image.
Haiku-man,
careful now…
Josh Reddick is one of the Sox top 3-4 prospects and is 75th on BA’s top 100 overall list…
AHEAD of Austin Jackson!
So he must be a budding can’t-miss superstar.
G. Love -
I am sure that’s why they were waiting as long as they could before they brought him up.
Ortiz is still scary?
If Theo keeps his job after this fiasco of fielding this team, it will be a miracle.
Even John Henry is anxious about his team as per the Globe.
gfd,
I read the Globe article and I didn’t read very much into it.
Why wouldn’t Henry be concerned?
He pretty much eluded to the fact that the Sox cannot fall into a big hole and expect to get out of it with teams as good as the Rays and Yanks in the division.
He’s right.
Jim,
thanks for the laugh. Even wearing your Jason Varitek jersey with the “C” on it, you can’t believe that drivel you are trying to sell.
Nice try though.
“The interesting thing about the Cameron injury and the Reddick call up is now Reddick will be seen at the major league level and possibly exposed as another overhyped product of Gammons. ”
That already happened last year. Reddick really has a long swing. He did ok when he first got called up, but major league pitchers figured him out quickly and attacked the holes in his swing.
Very good athlete. He’s going to have trouble making contact unless he is able to make significant adjustments.
Ortiz is still scary
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He is???
In the comments the last few days you read , an empty stadium would send Henry a message. I hope they don’t come to the park, Henry will freak out!!
Doreen,
I think that’s why in most cases, they don’t bring any of the “can’t miss” guys up. If Reddick doesn’t produce it kills his trade value, just as Bucholtz loses value by struggling at the major league level and appearing inconsistent.
Even though it rubs a lot of prospect huggers the wrong way, the Yankees are excellent at knowing who to cut bait on and who to keep. Cashman seems to have gotten better at knowing when to sell high on guys he doesn’t see in a Yankee uniform long term.
SJ – LOL re: Jim’s wish list.
Ortiz IS still scary.
Only now he scares Red Sox fans.
Ortiz is still scary, looking!
Hermedia?!?!?! It’s Hermida!!!
“I read the Globe article and I didn’t read very much into it.”
It wasn’t anyone on the Sox, but Cafardo himself really entered panicsville in that article:
“Jon Lester has been terrible — 0-2 with an 8.44 ERA over three starts. He hasn’t run away from his poor start and nobody feels worse than he does. Teams have sent young starters — even those with track records such as Lester’s — back to the minors before. The Indians did it with Cliff Lee in 2007, and he came back the following year and won 22 games and the American League Cy Young award. The Sox likely would not consider something that drastic, but it would send a strong message.”
That’s right. Fix the problem by sending Jon Lester to the minor leagues.
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....rn/?page=2
I don’t like anybody named Reddick…he’s not related to JJ is he?
“That already happened last year. Reddick really has a long swing.”
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apparently not in BA’s eyes as of a couple months ago – or many other “expert” prospect lists
75th overall ahead of AJax, Fernando Martinez, and gasp.. Tony Sanchez!
The Sox system is chock full of Josh Reddick types…. and it could be their downfall.
BJK April 20th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Ortiz IS still scary.
Only now he scares Red Sox fans.
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Nice!
Jim
YUUUUK is batting .217 try again!!
CB,
That’s what is frustrating about the hype re: Reddick. He didn’t stick last year, yet was still being touted as a huge prospect this past off season and a big trade chip for Boston.
This time around, with the cloud hanging over the team the way it is, if Reddick doesn’t provide a spark and struggles, I would assume his ranking as a prospect by opposing GM’s will plummet.
For Boston to make any big trade for a hitter, the main pool of talent to offer is Bucholtz and Bard (who I don’t think they can afford to trade either) and then the Casey Kelly/Reddick/Kalish/Lars group. If Reddick fails to impress this time around, they have less to deal for a bat.
That’s a pretty optimistic view of the Red Sox.
Drew? Alway injured. Ortiz? Not without a time machine. Beltre only hit one year of his career.
GLove, that doesnt make any sense (I mean the Sox’s plan, not your post). I mean, these guys are baseball players; if the Sox are so afraid to see them fail, then maybe they should get out of the business? Or, maybe the players aren’t that good.
Is Reddick considered a can’t-miss prospect? I don’t get the “very good athlete” label placed on these guys; maybe they should go out for track? You have to hit to play regularly in the major leagues.
Not that I’m a fan, but why knock Buchholz or the Sox’ handling of him? He’s their version of Phil Hughes; Phil has had his own issues.
CB,
I forgot about that part, and pretty much dismissed it immediately.
But it was funny.
Gotta love it – pointing to Cliff Lee (or perhaps Roy Halladay) and saying “all you have to do is send them down and when they come back they’ll win the Cy Young!”
brilliant.
So how does everyone think Vasquez… oh wait, sorry.
Thought I was in a Yankee forum. I have to have stumbled into a Rex Sox one.
Let’s cut Jim some slack.
It’s hard to see what you type thru the tears.
That’s probably his dilemma.
I’m glad that the writers/bloggers don’t hype Yankee prospects. I don’t like how they discount them at times, but I’m glad that they’re not hyped beyond reasonable expectations.
That Cafardo article was hilarious. I can’t believe he was actually suggesting in print that demoting Lester to the minors was an option.
I don’t think he wrote that because he meant that. I think he wrote that to stir up the crazies and the bridge jumpers.
How anyone could think demoting Lester after 3-4 bad starts to the minors is a good idea is beyond me.
I’d be shocked if they didn’t ban him from the clubhouse.
Love to know what Pete thought of that tidbit in the column.
Granderson’s Yahoo blog entry.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....ng-content
Very cute read. I would probably die if I ran into him at Target
G Love,
I would be shocked if they trade Bard OR Kelly.
I think they’ve fallen in love with those 2.
They’ll try to dupe other teams into taking just about everyone else, Buchholz, Ellsbury, etc… though I think we here realize that just might not get it done.
blake
Please dont compare to Josh Reddick to JJ Redick!!
JJ Redick is a class individual! (What you will say in response, I will respond with “everybody makes mistakes”)
Varitek has been on fire from the bench?
Erica, thank you for posting!
I don’t know if I want to LOL at the pics of Curtis shopping or go “awwwwww” because he took the time to congratulate Jimenez on his no-hitter or to say “hey, he’s right” about the Original and Famous (Rays) in NY.
I didn’t even know he had a blog; it’s going to be fun reading this year.
I saw a poll question somewhere (espn.com?) asking if Javy’s a whiner. I see a little of it, but it could be that he’s been on the defensive from the get go.
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Why am I not surprised that ESPN is trying to drum up ill will on Javy? He said what he felt – and he’s probably had that, unfairly, on his chest for a long, long time. I’m all for catharsis.
What he should have said was, ‘the manager is to blame. Even I wouldn’t have put me in in that situation.’
“That’s what is frustrating about the hype re: Reddick. He didn’t stick last year, yet was still being touted as a huge prospect this past off season and a big trade chip for Boston.”
G. Love-
Regardless of what’s written, I don’t think too many people in baseball are going to look at Reddick as some kind of all start in the making.
He very well could have a long productive career but I don’t see him being anything special. He is very athletic and can do a number of things.
I don’t think he has a great bat. If he runs into one he can hit it a long way and that’s particularly impressive given his speed. But my sense is that he’ll have trouble making consistent contact and he’s also not particularly patient at the plate.
If Reddick were that good they wouldn’t have signed Mike Cameron. The Sox own actions pretty much reveal what you need to know about how they view Reddick.
I doubt anyone in baseball is going to buy into what he’s purported to be.
I remember last year Jim Callis said in a chat that he could see Josh Reddick being the Sox starting LF in 2010.
Too bad Theo disagreed with Callis’s evaluation.
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 20th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Granderson?s Yahoo blog entry.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl…..ng-content
Very cute read. I would probably die if I ran into him at Target
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thanks for the link, Erica! If you ever do run into him at Target I want full details
Andrew,
That’s the only thing Jim got right!
Jim,
No need to worry.
The Texas Rangers – and their awful infield defense – are coming to your rescue.
BD (bos-Dave)
Austin Jackson is smokin this season, and is a leadoff batter. Reddick will bat at the bottom of the order. hehehe
JJ Reddick is a Dukie. Josh Reddick is a Red Sock
hm…..
After watching the Rays dismember the sux! Its early yet, but I saw a number of reasons to consider jumping off a high toll free bridge for every sux fan.
CB,
Then outside of Kelly, Bard and Buchholtz, who do the Red Sox legitimately have in that system to attract a top bat like Gonzalez in a trade?
If I were them, I’d sell high on Bard. He’s a reliever which means he can go either way from year to year. If he has real value in the league, I’d cut bait on that for a big bat if he helped get a deal done.
From what I’ve seen of him, I think his star is only going to dim pitching in the AL East. I don’t think he’s their closer in waiting.
Bodh, I don’t think Javy should have said the booing was “unfair” either…
bodhisattva,
ESPN (and MLB) needs the Yankees. You know they’ll do whatever they can to keep them in the news, often in a negative light (since there are lots of Yankee hater sports fans out there)
I didn’t see any Ortiz is a whiner articles on ESPN, though I could have missed them.
Guys, I had my doubts about Boston before the season started, but be careful rubbing their noses in it just yet. We’ve seen a few slow starts around here as well afterall.
The best way to deal with a bad Red Sox team is not to gloat about it, but to ignore them as being irrelevant. That will drive the fans there even more nuts because it’s not about baseball there, it’s all about the Red Sox and being the center of attention.
JJ REDICK!!!
Reddick is for losers!
“I would be shocked if they trade Bard OR Kelly.”
I don’t know about that. To be honest, the way the Sox have been so aggressive about promoting Kelly makes it almost look like they are setting him to trade.
It really makes no sense what they are doing. Kelly just needs innings but he’s at a pretty tight cap because he only threw 95 innings last year.
I don’t understand the urgency of promoting him to AA so that he can throw 3 inning stints at a time. It’s just so strange. Why not let him spend at least half this year in high A when he only had a relatively short trip to high A last year.
This is like what the Mets do with their prospects. The Sox clearly don’t need Kelly urgently for the major league rotation and they aren’t going to be targetting him for the pen.
Yet he’s in AA without having spent even a full season in A ball.
m: Betsy was getting grief for repeating something a commenter said on some other blog, not for repeating what Will Carroll said.
“Then outside of Kelly, Bard and Buchholtz, who do the Red Sox legitimately have in that system to attract a top bat like Gonzalez in a trade?”
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they aren’t trading Iglesias, though I can’t find anyone to tell me if his hype is legit.
they would have loved to pawn Tazawa off on someone but now they can’t.
Westmoreland is recovering.
And the rest of the guys like Lars Anderson, Bowden, and Kalish have little value.
Everyone else is in A ball and wouldn’t net them anything.
I think they’ll try to dump Ellsbury too.
I can’t get too worked up about Javy yet. I think he’ll settle into a groove and be excellent this season.
The guy is ridiculously talented and I haven’t forgotten the season he was having for us in 04 before he started pitching injured.
We gave Hughes a pass on stinking up the joint while pitching injured in 08.
Javy should be given the same courtesy.
m I don’t think you can really get much from praising someone who starts once or twice a week and is “on fire” after a whopping 13 ABs, and also remains 0 for 8 in throwing out runners.
Nick,
Thanks. Good morning to you, too!
Nick, I got grief for a lot of things, including for repeating what Carroll said….
Erica -
Thanks for linking Curtis’ blog. It’s now going to be a must-follow for me! Tar-zhay is one of my go-to stores! Don’t think he’ll be making his way to central NJ, though. Even if he did, I have about 4 of ‘em equi-distant to my home that I go to depending on where my errands take me.
CB,
wouldn’t they leave him in A ball where he’s more likely to put up great #s if they were setting him up for a trade?
He’s much more likely to struggle at AA this early, raising doubts about him for other teams.
Though I suppose if he did succeed, it could solidify his prospect status.
We’ll see…
lol, Andrew. Varitek is like the lone bright spot. Everytime he goes to the plate, he seems to be hitting one out of the park. The rest seems to be helping his bat speed.
Nick,
Sincerely meant “Good morning”. I wanted to talk draft.
BD,
I agree about Ellsbury being a trade chip. The only problem they have peddling him is he’s close to reaching arbitration and Boras is his agent.
That means he’s going to get expensive quick. Most of the teams who will be shopping a big bat are looking for young talented cost controlled guys.
Ellsbury’s costs are going to rise dramatically soon. If Melky can get 3 million avoiding arb, Ellsbury will get at least that and probably more.
GLove, who gave Phil a pass? He was murdered on the blogs (including this one also). Also, I don’t see anyone on here killing Javy.
Big LOL @ C-Grand buying his bed linens at “Tar-zsay”‘
Most of these guys are probably having Frette reps do private consultations and Curtis is shopping at Target.
Hey Curtis, tell me when you want to do a Costco run and I’ll save you the membership fee!
Bob(the original) April 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Guys, I had my doubts about Boston before the season started, but be careful rubbing their noses in it just yet. We’ve seen a few slow starts around here as well afterall.
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But!
When have the sox ever had a come-from-behind season? I can’t remember a single time when they’ve staged a comeback.
“Then outside of Kelly, Bard and Buchholtz, who do the Red Sox legitimately have in that system to attract a top bat like Gonzalez in a trade?”
No. Westmoreland was their best prospect. Better than Kelly and unfortunately his future is uncertain.
People tend to look at trades for Gonzalez largely from the perspective of what the Sox are willing to give up.
I’m not even certain if Hoyer is going to settle for pure prospects. If I were him and I had Gonzalez signed to that contract I would want the deal centered on a young cost controlled player who has had major league success but is not yet arbitration eligible.
That aside. The Sox capacity to trade for a guy of Gonzalez’s caliber is now very much dependent on Buchholz success at the major league level. If Buchholz shows that he can thrive in the majors from now to the trade deadline, then the Sox can get Gonzalez. If they can’t it becomes very difficult for them.
I don’t see them being able to get Gonzalez with Casey Kelly being the centerpiece in the deal unless it also includes Ellsbury. I don’t think Kelly’s upside is high enough to be the main focus of a Gonzalez deal. Another team will top that offer.
The Sox need Buchholz to be very good and then they will need to be ok with trading him.
Nobody likes to see errors needlessly compounded.
Good morning Mountain, Pacific, and Island time zones!
BD (bos Dave)
I’ve read since the sox lost to the Twins, that the sox were now cursed because of boston voting in Scott Brown in a Democratic seat, hey if you want to go 86 more years w/o a WS title, go for it! I personally don’t believe in curses, but don’t let that stop you please.
“Austin Jackson is smokin this season, and is a leadoff batter. Reddick will bat at the bottom of the order. hehehe”
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oh I know. That ranking will change for sure. AJax has done little to question his potential thus far. He is off to as good a start as the Tigers could have expected.
But to think that BA had Reddick ranked that high less than 2 months ago…
m – what Jim forgot to mention is that when Varitek catches Martinez has to dh and the sox lose one of their “sizzling” bats from his list.
The sox have this problem b/c Varitek didn’t want to get deep-sixed and exercised his mutual option.
One of the many big headaches for the sox (weak line-up, middle relief), two defensively challenged (no throwing arms) catchers with a dh problem (Ortiz and Lowell) to boot.
Tek will be just another “beloved” player the sox will take down as they show him the door.
Nick, are you going to the game tonight and tomorrow (for Young Master Phil’s 2nd go-round)?
Betsy calling boos received in the 2nd start of the season in a game where the guy pitched decently into the 6th inning “unfair” is extremely tame &, in my opinion at least, nothing to give Vazquez grief over. It’s not like he went on an expletive-filled rant like a certain Big Pop-Up of the north
DYD,
I can’t laugh at the Sox catchers too much. We’re a big 0-fer in the CS category. :grr:
Tonight’s game: probably not.
Tomorrow night: probably.
“I agree about Ellsbury being a trade chip. The only problem they have peddling him is he’s close to reaching arbitration and Boras is his agent. ”
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no doubt about that.
But his value may only go down from here. I’m not sure the Padres or a small market team would prefer him, but the Sox will probably try to sell them on Ellsbury.
But you are absolutely right. He could be a tough sell.
“wouldn’t they leave him in A ball where he’s more likely to put up great #s if they were setting him up for a trade?”
BD-
Kelly doesn’t throw very hard. It’s very tough for a guy who doesn’t throw hard but gets by on “pitchability” to build significant trade value in the low minors.
If he succeeds even modestly at AA his value goes up a lot. And remember, the sox have him set up where he’s not even facing AA line ups twice. He’s throwing 3 inning stints.
I’m just speculating, but the entire situation is just odd. I don’t see the urgency to get him to AA but perhaps they see something in his stuff.
The main thing he needs is innings and to mature physically. That’s just easier to do in A ball. They easily could have promoted him later on in the year to AA.
we have 1 CS.
HGH pitcher in NL central.
BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 14 April 20th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
bodhisattva,
ESPN (and MLB) needs the Yankees. You know they’ll do whatever they can to keep them in the news, often in a negative light (since there are lots of Yankee hater sports fans out there)
I didn’t see any Ortiz is a whiner articles on ESPN, though I could have missed them.
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Guess they keep missing his running monologue before he walks back to the dugout, every time the ump says he went around or got caught looking.
He’s also never really done steroids.
I have nothing really against Ortiz – I feel sorry for him, actually. But the double standard has been much to take.
m April 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
DYD,
I can?t laugh at the Sox catchers too much. We?re a big 0-fer in the CS category. :grr:
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Not true!! They do have 1. lol
http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/cheapseats
CC and Torii on Cheap Seats.
m – that’s true, but there’s hope with Cervelli’s arm.
Potluck with Jorge’s arm, though he does get streaky throwing out runners (stat guys, you’re on).
Absolutely no hope for the beantown duo behind the plate.
Andrew, my comment was extremely mild; I hardly call it “giving grief”. I don’t think he should have said it because it makes him vulnerable to the fans and it also makes it appear that he has a thin skin. I would never have booed him; I don’t believe in booing any player unless they aren’t trying. I just knew this would happen the minute the Yankees traded for him; the fans will have very little patience for Javy because they blame him for 2004.
Andrew April 20th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Betsy calling boos received in the 2nd start of the season in a game where the guy pitched decently into the 6th inning “unfair” is extremely tame &, in my opinion at least, nothing to give Vazquez grief over. It’s not like he went on an expletive-filled rant like a certain Big Pop-Up of the north
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Agree. Just Javy’s version of booing back.
Chris Carpenter? He does have a long injury history. Also please note that is a wild guess, I did not hear that from Will Carroll or anything
Have a good time, Nick!
Erin- Check. If memory serves, their was one thrown out at third base.
the HGH thing made it into the MSM now.
Joelsherman1 Not a NY player being suspended for PED failure. But known player did fail PED test, which will be announced, maybe as early as today
***their*** there
anyone HOPING for roy oswalt? After his high and mighty act against arod.
Sox tied for the 2nd most loses in baseball.
Betsy
The truly great people are always taking grief for something. Remember that next time instead of defending yourself
i.e. New York Yankees
my first thought was chris carpenter too, because for once he actually stayed healthy.
LOL CR…….
Hughes was villified, mocked, and called a “bust” by many internet junkies, not unlike the whole “trade Cano” business after 2008.
It was the case on every board I visited.
I keep hearing about rain but I see blue skies looking out my window (through shades and leaves). I don’t know what to believe!
Hm… a “semi-big” NL central pitcher. Let’s see…
Gallardo?
Carpenter?
Brad Penny?
Randy Wolf?
Brett Myers?
Roy Oswalt?
Arroyo?
Harrang?
Zombrano?
Mike Cameron out with a hernia (2 to 4 weeks). Ouch!
CB,
definitely an interesting take on that.
Kelly is a sinker-type, groundball pitcher so far so he may get away with no throwing hard.
I guess if it’s Gonzalez on the line, they’d be fools not to give him up.
We got 1 baserunner? Off the shnide. haha. Hating can continue.
stuckey April 20th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
So how does everyone think Vasquez… oh wait, sorry.
Thought I was in a Yankee forum. I have to have stumbled into a Rex Sox one.
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Who is this Vasquez you speak of? If you want to discussion to be more Yankee focused shouldn’t we discuss a player on the Yankees
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“Austin Jackson is smokin this season, and is a leadoff batter.”
The best a hitter can do when he makes contact with the ball is to square up the pitch and drive it. The vast majority of hitters can’t really direct where the ball is going to go other than generally trying to pull it, go the other way or go back up the middle.
On average when a major league hitter makes contact 30% of the time that contact will turn into basehits.
Better hitters – especially hitter who really hit the ball hard do better than 30% of the time. For example, 32.1% of contact Alex makes turns into a hit. For Pujols its 31.7%.
Faster runners can also do better than 30%. Amazingly, 35% of Ichiro’s contact turns into a base hit.
So far this season 49% of the contact Austin Jackson has made has resulted in a base hit. 49%.
That simply is not going to last. But that’s the kind of thing that you see over small samples of at bats.
And Jackson has struck out 30% of his at bats so far this year.
That is a bad combination because when his rate of contact turning into base hits decreases and he keeps striking out, his batting average and on base percentage are going to plummet.
“Jason Varitek jersey with the “C” on it”.
http://i378.photobucket.com/al.....gibles.gif
The fact that it’s taking so long to come out, the PED suspendee, I am led to believe that it is a Boston Red Sox.
Because, you can guaranDamntee that if it was a New York player, somebody like Selena Roberts would have dug and dug and dug and dug til she got the answer.
It will be kept under wraps until the final moment, or mysteriously, it will never come out, and the Red Sox player will mysteriously end up on the DL. Mike Cameron?????
RhapsodyInBlue April 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
?Jason Varitek jersey with the ?C? on it?.
http://i378.photobucket.com/al…..gibles.gif
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If you are SD and are not going to win soon… would you prefer Kelly over Buchholz?
Less service time and Buchholz hasn’t exactly distinguished himself yet and he’s already 25-26 isn’t he?… aren’t his mechanics out of whack too?
Bodh, yes he was. On some boards, the remnants of that criticism still remain; he was most definitely not given a pass.
Betsy I am just trying to say I disagree that he shouldn’t have said the booing is unfair; not looking to rip you or anything, just don’t agree. My stance is that players are always going to be perceived as thin-skinned/soft/babies when they acknowledge not liking to get booed, but at the same time, who likes to get booed? It’s a contradiction, you are supposed to say “it’s great the fans are booing me, they are so right, I love hearing my mom get insulted”, etc. etc. when it’s clearly a lie. I don’t mind someone making a very very tame statement to the press about not being happy about getting booed undeservedly, in fact I welcome it when it’s level-headed and not ridiculous and out-of-bounds.
while waiting for GTLU, we can play “Guess the suspended semi-big PED User”….
Dibs on Brad Penny!
Let me guess, that’s the picture of Varitek with “C”s all over his jersey a la The Joker?
Well, here’s one player who’s NOT going to be suspended afterall….
http://www.mynorthwest.com/?ni.....sid=311355
Yay!
Betsy,
He’s now switched places with Joba, who is this year’s whipping boy.
My old site had some very pro-Hughes people, and we had to become nearly militant to shout down the idiots who wanted the Yanks to deal him for Santana. God, that seems like an eternity ago….
Andrew, that’s fair….I did not think he came off as whiny, but I think many fans did. Then again, those fans were probably already disposed to feel negatively towards him.
The fact that it’s taking so long to come out, the PED suspendee, I am led to believe that it is a Boston Red Sox.
Because, you can guaranDamntee that if it was a New York player, somebody like Selena Roberts would have dug and dug and dug and dug til she got the answer.
It will be kept under wraps until the final moment, or mysteriously, it will never come out, and the Red Sox player will mysteriously end up on the DL. Mike Cameron?????
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dude. you know the sox dont do steroids. Ortiz was tricked by gnc and manny waspopping estrogen pills for no real reason.
Best was when Ortiz went all OJ Simpson on us and told he he will track down what happened. and never did.
I’m going to say Carlos Zombrano as my guess.
He starts tonight vs. the Mets…hhmmmm……
tex’s friend April 20th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Well to Ortiz’s credit, he hasn’t seemed to find his Milkshakes anymore.
Bodh, I don’t think Joba has gotten the treatment that Phil got simply because I think people fell in love with him and never fell out. In my experience, I think fans are blaming the Yankees for “ruining” Joba; with Phil, they blamed him for being overrated (and that’s being kind). Then again, I’ve seen people blaming the Yankees for ruining Phil. He’s being compared (negatively I might add) to Buchholz. Oh well, what are you going to do?
I doubt it is Brad Penney, because he isn’t good enough to be a PEDs user.
Ortiz didn’t do steroids…. Weiner sat next to him and told us that at the press conference that the steroid report was false and the NY Times got bad information because that 103 list is inaccurate
Ok we have Brad Penny and Carlos Zambrano. Still time. I am so bored at work!
RayVT
Dont worry. When the All Star Break comes, Ortiz will get another visit from his father from the Dominican like last year, and will bring along with him THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING, the shakes!!!!
CB,
I knew AJax’s BABIP was high, but not THAT high.
good stats.
We know how the Tigers like to rush their youngsters.
AJax is still learning…. on the job. But nobody should expect him to hit .300, or even .280 this season.
m April 20th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Let me guess, that?s the picture of Varitek with ?C?s all over his jersey a la The Joker?
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No, it’s Captain Crunch!!
Penny stunk then at the end of the season he was fine, and has been fine so far this year.
just glad this wont touch the yankees for once.
Five iron-
The 2 guys I am really keeping an eye on this year are Z-Mac, and Warren.
Adam Warren is a sleeper but he wont be for much longer.
Expect him to be promoted to Trenton some time this season.
The president of the Colorado Rockies was found dead in his hotel room. Apparently he was a pretty young guy and a former college football player.Condolences to his family.
tex’s friend my official guess is Chris Carpenter. Although I think that Bronson Arroyo is also a very strong candidate, based on his past ties to a certain once-cherished team that’s come under a lot of ‘roid scrutiny in retrospect
RayVT,
Every time I turned on the radio, I was hearing about how Brad Penny finally “gets it” under Dave Duncan. They’re expecting huge things from him. But this is the National League. I’ll reserve judgement until interleague or any WS appearances by him.
I’m going to guess… Trevor Hoffman.
Not for anything, but re: the PED mystery user – not too cool to throw out names – these guys are professionals and don’t need to be badmouthed undeservedly.
We as Yankee fans would definitely not like that one of our players (or ex-players) be unfairly skewered.
Hmmm, why dont we ask the impartial George Mitchell who his guess is…
Reporter: Mr. Mitchell, who is going to be suspended.
Mitchell: Jeter, Rivera, Teixeira, all the Yankees!!! None of the Red Sox!!! Dont forget, I brokered in Northern Ireland. I must have integrity!!
I think it’ll take Bucholtz and Ellsbury to land Adrian and that’s assuming Bucholtz pitches better…if he doesn’t as CB said I can’t see them landing him just because someone else will top the offer.
My guess (not that I care) for the PED user is Zambrano.
Fran (the original) April 20th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
The president of the Colorado Rockies was found dead in his hotel room. Apparently he was a pretty young guy and a former college football player.Condolences to his family.
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That’s awful!
Bronson would be a safe guess too.
Anyone for Roy Oswalt?
I saw Adam Warren pitch at SI last year, guy definitely knows what he’s doing on the mound. He was a college pitcher, too, so he should definitely move through the system faster than the younger arms currently down in Single A levels. I don’t think he projects as a front-liner or anything but he could be another useful arm for the Yanks in a year or two (be it trade, fill-in, etc.)
brokered ***peace in Northern Ireland.
OMG, Fran – how awful. My condolences to his family…….wow.
I hope Austin Jackson succeeds, not to greater success than Granderson, but I want him to become a good MLB regular. Just to stick it to the Red Sox as Reddick washes out.
Blake, is that all you think it would take or would those be the centerpieces?
Awwww, that’s sad
Poor guy. Hope the Rockies suspend a game or 2.
big game for javy tonight in that huge crappy ballpark in san francisco’s drug addicted younger brother, Oakland.
If Jackson does we..lll it speaks well of our farm system. Same with Ian Kennedy, or any prospect we trade. We developed these guys, so why not let our farm get a good rep?
If you’re the Red Sox, you do whatever it takes to get Gonzalez.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 20th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Andrew, that’s fair….I did not think he came off as whiny, but I think many fans did. Then again, those fans were probably already disposed to feel negatively towards him.
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There are fans who lie in wait, hoping he fails. This is the kind of creature that just boos at the drop of a hat. The same types who enjoy giving the young pitcher-in-training the full business at the earliest sign of trouble.
Javy could have called them vermin, and I would cheer him for it.
Bodh, I agree……there are too many fans like that.
Here’s another funny line from Granderson’s blog”
“ But there are so many food options in New York, and it seems like every one of them has the name “Original” or “Famous” in its name. I’m looking forward to testing that out. ”
Anybody remember the Seinfeld reference in there?
“I must be at the nexus of the Universe!”
Adam Warren was outstanding again for his 3rd start of the season. 6 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts.
Corban Joseph and Walter Ibarra were the big bats. Ibarra was 2-3 with a run scored and an RBI with 4 stolen bases. Joseph was 2-4 with a double and RBI.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_tbyafa_1
For his sake, Javy has to get it together on this road trip or its going to be rough sailing for him.
This is a very easy matchup for him… lots of easy outs, big ballpark, tame crowd, etc.
His next start is in Baltimore, against a good lineup in a small ballpark, with a lot of Yankee fans there who will boo him.
He can save himself a lot of trouble by pitching well tonight. Then again, even that might not be enough for the fans….
m
You are so right. StL is an obvious source of our PEDs thinking. Kind of like Boston Midwest!
Their list of potential users is high & McGwire is there too. I really hope that it is no one and just a spoof.
Mark April 20th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
If Jackson does we..lll it speaks well of our farm system. Same with Ian Kennedy, or any prospect we trade. We developed these guys, so why not let our farm get a good rep?
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This is my point also. It’s positive when someone the Yanks have developed succeeds. This not only enhances the prospect of doing business with other teams, who will think more highly of our inventory, it also boosts those players developing in our system that they may have a chance, if not with us, with some other team.
I can’t fathom those fans who root for guys we send out in deals to fail. I mean, how insecure are you?
BD,
For Kelly to be considered untouchable one of three things has to be going on:
1. They feel that he’s going to fill out, build arm strength and gain velocity as he get more experience throwing.
This is a reasonable assumption – but until he actually demonstrates that gain, it’s hypothetical.
And if this were the case it would make much more sense to leave him in A ball so that he can throw his fastball repeatedly. To succeed in AA he’s going to have to rely on his off speed stuff which won’t build his velocity.
2. They believe he is truly the next Gregg Maddux. Many command and control guys get this comparison and to date no one has come close. Perhaps Dan Haren is some ways but even Haren threw harder than Kelly when he was a minor leaguer.
It’s possible that they’ve evaluated him this way – but it’s just not a high probability wager.
3. Theo has turned into Bill Stoneman and really fallen in love with his prospects to an almost irrational degree.
I don’t think this is likely but again it is possible. And if this is the case, it is likely that his trade value would be limited because it’s not likely another GM will have the same irrational attachment to Kelly.
m- with chi-town and laa in the mix, any package to pry a-gon from sd’s grasp will have to start with bahhd and eldahberry. Probably never happens.
Most likely they’re going after tb’s pena.
“big game for javy tonight in that huge crappy ballpark in san francisco’s drug addicted younger brother, Oakland.”
What?
tex’s friend April 20th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Bronson would be a safe guess too.
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If this happens to be the case, then as a West-Coaster I respectfully request that someone post a transcript of Mike Francesa’s next show. Please and thank you.
CB,
Nice post about BABIP but those numbers you quote are balls hit into play. Making contact implies that you are including every type of contact – HR and foul balls included.
CB,
I think its possible that Theo has fallen in love with his system. He see’s these guys as saviors that are either going to:
- Come up and be stars
- Get traded in a very small package for a superstar
I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to be seen as the genius that uses his farm and makes minimal free agent signings that are all ‘the right moves’.
For the record, I also want to see Jackson do very well. I was just pointing out that his success so far has gotten a large amount of attention both in yankee fans and in the national press. His current pathway for production however is likely influenced by small sample issues that aren’t going to be sustainable.
I hope he has a terrific career. Same for Tabata and Kennedy and all of the players they’ve traded. Their success clearly only adds value to the yankee’s system in future trades.
Josh Reddick is the type of kid that you hope has success. Not just for him, but, for his dad. It was a tough growing up time for him. His dad used to play catch with him every day after school. Not so unusual except that when the son was 10 years old, his father lost an arm and 3 fingers in a work accident. He worked for a Georgia power company and came in contact with the high tension wires. whether he’s with the Sox or not, it’s still hard to not pull for him.
I still laugh about the fact that A-Rod called him Brandon Arroyo a bunch of times back in 04/05. I think Tim McCarver has done it on the air before, too. Hilarious
I guess Brett Myers
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 20th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Bodh, I don’t think Joba has gotten the treatment that Phil got simply because I think people fell in love with him and never fell out. In my experience, I think fans are blaming the Yankees for “ruining” Joba; with Phil, they blamed him for being overrated (and that’s being kind). Then again, I’ve seen people blaming the Yankees for ruining Phil. He’s being compared (negatively I might add) to Buchholz. Oh well, what are you going to do?
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Oh, I don’t know, Bets. Does “get that drunken, fat piece of garbage out of here. He can’t throw hard anymore, what good is he?” qualify as a good bashing?
Because that’s the sentiment I hear a great deal. And for all those who question the Yankees’ handling of Chamberlain – and why they hell shouldn’t they – there’s enough of a ‘Joba is over weight, Joba is undisciplined, Joba is a drug addict just like his mother, etc…” to drown those out who dare to question Eiland and his minions on Joba.
I’d say, there is equal opportunity hate for any prospect who dares to stumble.
wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to be seen as the genius that uses his farm and makes minimal free agent signings that are all ‘the right moves’
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So basically he wants to watch what Cashman does, then do the same thing one year later?
Betsy,
It may even take more than that..other teams (teams with better prospects to offer) will line up as well if Adrian becomes available..the Sox will have to pay out big time to get him IMO.
Thanks GB for the Reddick insight! People are more important than a game!
Scranton leads in the third inning, 1-0. Sanchez has allowed two hit 0 walks, and 1 strikeout. Nunez is 2-2 with a double and a stolen base. Winfree has an RBI sac fly. Montero is 0-1.
Wow:
(CNN) — Colorado Rockies President Keli McGregor was found dead Tuesday morning in a Salt Lake City, Utah, hotel, police said.
Not for the Torre haters among us:
“A master at his craft
What a joy to watch master marionetteer Joe Torre work his craft today. He won that game for the Dodgers every bit as much as Manny Ramirez did.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....y_id=61583
CB April 20th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
For the record, I also want to see Jackson do very well. I was just pointing out that his success so far has gotten a large amount of attention both in yankee fans and in the national press. His current pathway for production however is likely influenced by small sample issues that aren’t going to be sustainable.
I hope he has a terrific career. Same for Tabata and Kennedy and all of the players they’ve traded. Their success clearly only adds value to the yankee’s system in future trades.
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If you’re responding to my post, I was making a statement of disappointment about a general trend to demean anyone once they’re outbound.
Yours have to be the most neutral and disinterested posts in here.
I’ll take Wandy Rodriguez.
But I’m hoping it’s Roy Oswalt.
So basically he wants to watch what Cashman does, then do the same thing one year later?
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I guess? Its just weird that the Red Sox ‘big’ FA signing is an injury prone pitcher and a bunch of small FA/Trade moves. The yankees went into the FA market and grabbed 3 of the best guys. Then they went and a made a bunch of savvy trades, while allowing the farm system to help along the way in the form of our bullpen and backups.
Theo won’t drop the hammer on his ‘untouchable guys’ in any trade package.
Damo.
Agree that this is a big game for Javy. Right now he is the only pitcher not producing. He needs to get it going.
You know I’m having the darndest time finding that Varitek picture, but it sure is fun.
Search for nomaas.org pix @ google images is bringing up all kinds of gold. A couple funny ones of C-Varitek. They love the Youkilis as an openly gay man. Ca$hmoney gets a lot of love. There was the classic one of Laptops triumphant day on the mound.
Patrick,
Thanks – you’re clarification is of course more precise then the way I was describing it.
Jerkface,
I guess Theo may have fallen in love, but I don’t know. That would be a pretty ominous sign for that franchise.
I think they may be trying to build his value for a trade.
Is nomaas no longer filtered?
How about Zack Duke? Great performance out of basically nowhere.
the white sox may do for a-gon too. they have history with SD from the Peavy deal.
GTPEDS is a really lousy game
sorry i was bored. when is the lineup game starting?
bodi,
Thanks for the clarification but it was no problem – I was making a general comment. I didn’t construe your comments as being particularly directed at me. I knew you too were making a general statement.
nomaas filtered my ass
There’s an anagram in there somewhere.
any time, Ray. His situation really is no different than that of Joba Chamberlain except in the littlest of details.
I always get mixed up on the CPCTC postulates.
SSA? SAS? AAS? ASA?
Lineup:
Jeter SS
Swish RF
Tex 1B
AROD 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Thames DH
Gardner LF
This just in -
The player who is being suspended is in fact David Ortiz.
Turns out the “illegal substance” was the new Double Down sandwich at KFC.
He ate 3 of them and that was enough for a positive test.
“What a joy to watch master marionetteer Joe Torre work his craft today.”
I’m no Torre basher but this kind of funny.
Javy’s in town. Maybe they can get his take on Gepetto’s moves from 2004?
Just reading in mlb trade rumors that if the chi-sox continue to swoon they may become sellers this summer.
Linebrink and Putz (JJ) may make for some interesting three-way deals with san diego and a prospect rich team needing relievers, ie. tampa bay.
BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 14 April 20th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
This just in -
The player who is being suspended is in fact David Ortiz.
Turns out the ?illegal substance? was the new Double Down sandwich at KFC.
He ate 3 of them and that was enough for a positive test
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I still am so tempted to try one but I am afraid of the possible instant heart attack
The Double Down is gross. And expensive. $5 for the sandwich alone, meal for $7. The reason they state is that the chicken filets they use are ‘premium meat’, which I guess means ‘not ground up chicken bones and gristle reconstituted in filet form’.
It was alright, but nothing special. Hard to eat as a sandwich though, and it could do without the bacon. I wasn’t feeling that flavor combination.
BD (Boston Dave) – NJ walk tracker = 14 April 20th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Funny! Actually Ortiz has slimmed down.
It seems that a few things happen to PEDs users. They get larger, injured more, are highly irritable & usually produce. That makes the list shorter. Bret Myers was my guess.
It could be any number of people from Penny, Zambrano, Oswalt, Carpenter, Arroyo or whoever.
http://www.kfc.com/doubledown/
Assuming you dodge the heart attack, three of those might just shut down your gall bladder.
“It could be any number of people from Penny, Zambrano, Oswalt, Carpenter, Arroyo or whoever.”
The latest thing I read said that it wasn’t a big name pitcher. Zambrano, Carpenter and Oswalt are definitely big names.
Jerkface April 20th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
The Double Down is gross. And expensive. $5 for the sandwich alone, meal for $7. The reason they state is that the chicken filets they use are ?premium meat?, which I guess means ?not ground up chicken bones and gristle reconstituted in filet form?.
It was alright, but nothing special. Hard to eat as a sandwich though, and it could do without the bacon. I wasn?t feeling that flavor combination.
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Can you please describe the sauce-type substance on the sandwich???
The NYY fan in me assumes that BOS will eventually swing a lopsided trade for A-Gon. However, looking at the situation rationally, I just can’t understand how the Sox would be able to put together an enticing package without gutting their system. In my opinion, Ellsbury and Buchholz are pretty far removed from their peak values. Considering their ages and service times, neither are ideal for a team as far away from contending as San Diego. Furthermore, while both have shown potential they have also been exposed to some degree and don’t look like the “can’t miss” guys they were once purported to be. I’m higher on Bard than many, but the risk/reward for a reliever on a rebuilding team doesn’t make a great deal of sense. On the minor league side Kelly looks like the only true impact guy considering Westmoreland’s unfortunate situation. In the NL West Kelly would probably have a successful career, but if TEX, CHI, and SEA pursue A-Gon (like they should), I would think they could certainly build more attractive packages. With all that said, I still can’t shake the feeling that Gonzalez will end up in BOS and the rivalry will be renewed.
Its like Zaxby’s sauce kind of, or onion ring sauce I think. It was light peach in color.
Bronx Jeers April 20th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Anybody remember the Seinfeld reference in there?
?I must be at the nexus of the Universe!?
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Nice! I thought of that episode as soon as I saw the Famous/Original Rays
Jerkface April 20th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Its like Zaxby?s sauce kind of, or onion ring sauce I think. It was light peach in color.
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Interesting. I think a honey mustard-type would have been better.
Anyway, thank you Jerkface. You have been most helpful
tk- the sox will need a lot more than A-Gon to renew the rivalry. They look like swiss cheese.
Still 1-0 scranton bottom of the 5th. sanchez: 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 3 strikeouts, 1 wild pitch.
sox have good pitching. dont count them out after 13 games.
the only way boston makes sd the best offer is if texas, seattle, chicago and others back out.
Boston Dave-
You out there? I have a question….
So who is hanging out tonight on the game thread for the LoHud pajama party???
Raise your hand if you love 10pm starts??
Texas might have financial issues, what with their sale being held up by the creditors. This might prevent their adding any new payroll, even a reasonable contract like Gonzalez’, this year. The White Sox might be able to swing that deal, if Kenny Williams is willing to offer Beckham.
tex’s friend – Not to worry. BOS has suspect pitching after the gilded three, suspect outfield, a catching quandary, suspect middle relief and a pending closer bru-ha-ha.
Warren pitched well for Tampa today as they won 3-0 with him giving up one hit over six innings with 5 SO.
Well, that didn’t take too long. bottom of the 5th, Sanchez gives up a single, double and a 3 run homer. No outs
hey Erica,
just got back.
I haven’t tried the Double Down if that’s your question
Bodh, that’s awful….and I agree. Both Joba and Phil had the nerve to stumble; fans expect kids to pitch like veterans and it’s not only unfair it’s ridiculous.
I have a question for the Beantown residents.
can you suggest some “dive” or Locals bars in the city of boston – not too far from downtown.
I’ve been to the Black Rose and The purple Shamrock – nice but too big.
Went to a place called the Sevens on Beacon Hill that was pretty cool – anything else?
This question also applies to Portland Me.
I’ll be here, but I don’t wear pajamas
Erica
are pajama jeans mandatory?
Jerkface, either will Cash; that’s why Phil and Joba are still here.
tex- and not to state the obvious: a dh debacle.
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 20th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
So who is hanging out tonight on the game thread for the LoHud pajama party???
Raise your hand if you love 10pm starts??
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Is it bad thats its only 2:30 and I’m already pretty confident that I’m not going to make it up for the entire game? LOL i’m getting old. 1-2am bedtimes are NOT ok.
Maybe i’ll get a second wind after Glee tonight tho…woohooo!
Note-
For the Lohud pajama party, pajamas are optional.
But if you opt out of pajamas, you should definitely keep that info to yourself
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 20th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
So who is hanging out tonight on the game thread for the LoHud pajama party???
Raise your hand if you love 10pm starts??
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I would love to, but I know I’d be kicking myself tomorrow morning. I like sleeping too much!
New Post: Sabathia pitches in
I will probably make it for the entire game because lately I’ve been going to sleep at 3am. One of these days, however, I’m going to totally crash.
NYY626-
4 years of 3 hours of sleep a night in college ruined me. If I sleep less than 6 hours I need to warn all of my coworkers so they know to stay away
New thread
Boston Dave, I will ask my question there
Jerkface, either will Cash; that?s why Phil and Joba are still here
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Cash put Montero on the table for Roy Halladay. I’m sure he has had Hughes / Joba on the table for guys.
Uncle Ellsworth April 20th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I have a question for the Beantown residents.
can you suggest some “dive” or Locals bars in the city of boston – not too far from downtown.
I’ve been to the Black Rose and The purple Shamrock – nice but too big.
Went to a place called the Sevens on Beacon Hill that was pretty cool – anything else?
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If you’re willing to go by Fenway (lol), the bars over there are pretty cool. Game On and Cask N Flagon are great places to watch a game.
Another thing to keep in mind is that KFC uses MSG in their foods. MSG is a neurotoxin.
Supposed to rain today and tomorrow in Oakland.
http://www.weather.com/outlook.....038;epc=be
Top of the 6th, Winfree lines a single to left, Montero lines out to right, Huffman lines a 2 run homer to left, Curtis lines out to center, Hammock with a line drive single to center. Golson hits a long fly to the track in right field off of Kiko Calero. Goson is still hitting .297 and has cut back his strikeouts.
3-3 tie, bottom of the 6th inning
Not sure how many are watching MLB and their tours of minor league parks, but, for baseball lovers, this is great stuff. They doing Cobb Field in Billings, Montana in the rookie leagues. Stuff you’ll never see in the Majors. They just had a guy play the National Anthem on the saw. This stuff is priceless.
Eduardo Nunez is absolutely raking right now in Scranton.
Jesus seems like he’s heating up also
Bay Area weather update-The sun has gone. Here comes the next storm.