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Yankees White House visit kicks off three-day trophy tour

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 23, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have announced further details about Monday’s trip to the White House, which will kick off a three-day tour of the World Series trophy around the Washington D.C. area. Here’s the release:

On Monday, April 26, President Obama will welcome the World Series Champion New York Yankees to the White House at 3:00 p.m. to honor their 2009 season (please note that times are subject to change).

The Yankees will be welcomed on the South Portico or East Room (rain site). Open Press (Pre-set 2:00 p.m. – Final Gather 2:30 p.m. – North Doors of the Palm Room).

Prior to visiting the First Family, Yankees players, coaches and executives — including Managing General Partner/Co-Chairperson Hal Steinbrenner, General Partner/Vice-Chairperson Jennifer Steinbrenner Swindal, President Randy Levine, Chief Operating Officer Lonn Trost, General Manager Brian Cashman and Assistant General Manager Jean Afterman — will take the 2009 World Series trophy on a visit to see wounded warriors at Walter Reed Medical Center and the Malone House (a long-term rehabilitation home for wounded warriors located on campus near Walter Reed).

The championship trophy tour will continue the next day on Tuesday, April 27, when the 2009 World Series trophy will make its way around to distinguished locations in Washington, D.C. In the morning, Yankees staff members will transport the trophy to the office of Dan Rosenblatt, Executive Director of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, a non-profit organization that represents 20,000 police executives in over 89 countries.

On Tuesday afternoon, the trophy will be welcomed by Supreme Court Justice and Bronx native Sonia Sotomayor, followed by lunch in the United States Senate Dining Room with wounded warriors and U.S. senators. That night, the Yankees will invite 20 wounded veterans—10 from from Walter Reed and 10 from Bethesda Naval Hospital—as their guests for an on-field visit during batting practice prior to their game against the Baltimore Orioles at Camden Yards.

The following day, Wednesday, April 28, select Yankees players are scheduled to join the 2009 World Series trophy for a visit to Bethesda Naval Hospital. Later that afternoon, the trophy will be on display at a Pentagon luncheon followed by a tour through the Pentagon offices.

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  1. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 23rd, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    This is the last celebration of the 2009 WS and it’s really going to be something; I wish I could tag along, lol.

    I love that the Yankees are taking care of some of the wounded veterans; this will be quite an experience for them.

  2. Jaime April 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    I’m in DC and want to see the trophy! But it doesn’t look like any of this is open to the public… :(

  3. Erin April 23rd, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    I can’t wait to see pictures from this! :)

  4. Bronx Jeers April 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Too bad Johnny’s not here for the Wounded Warrior part of the tour.

  5. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?

  6. Fran (the original) and OPPC member April 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    This seems like an incredible few days. Hope we get to see a lot of pictures.

  7. Erin April 23rd, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:04 pm
    Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?

    *********************

    :lol:

  8. Yanksgal07 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    That poor Trophy is going to be soooooooooo tired after this trip … :)

    Go Yankees 2010 !!!

  9. Bronx Jeers April 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?

    ————————-

    Now that’s funny!

    Secret Service might have to monitor this.

  10. Phil Columbus April 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    I wonder if the President will have much to say about his White Sox since they are off to such a bad start. Hope Arod doesn’t bring it up. :)

  11. Brandon's Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS crosses Braden's mound) April 23rd, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    “Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?”

    LMAO :lol:

    I expected that from Nick, not you GB7.

  12. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Brandon, you give Nick too much credit for having all of the wit on this blog. At best, he only has half of the wit.

  13. Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Tin Cup……Good story…….

  14. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    Pat, Randy needs to repost that story. I didn’t ever think he had a sense of humor. I only thought he was a bad golfer.

  15. blake April 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    If I lived in the Bay area then the next time the Yanks played the A’s and Braden pitched I would run out on the field and do a carwheel off the mound….hint hint Nick in SF ( your mission if you choose to accept it) ;)

  16. Joe from Long Island April 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    Hi all –
    I am in CA at a meeting and I’m doing this from my iPhone
    1. Couldn’t believe what happened in that game. The triple play and the the stupidity over Alex. So he cut across the mound. So what? And where does Braden come off with tantrum? What happened to common sense? Or if we’re concerned with etiquette, to knowing you’re place?

    2. 11-4 is pretty good. No, very good
    3. Great that they’re going to the White House. Hope the A’s are going to watch on tv.

  17. Brandon's Awesome (B/c my AWESOMENESS crosses Braden's mound) April 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm

    “Brandon, you give Nick too much credit for having all of the wit on this blog. At best, he only has half of the wit.”

    Ahh…yes, I clearly forgot this.

  18. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    If Cashman and the steinbrenners really want to do something for the wounded and disabled warriors, let them get rid of Nurse Karloff before I go back to Tampa. I can’t be the only one tortured by her.

  19. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    “Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?”

    if he gets out of there without creating an international incident he’ll be doing just fine.

  20. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Bronx Jeers April 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    Too bad Johnny?s not here for the Wounded Warrior part of the tour.

    *****************

    Too bad Johnny’s not here period :cry:

  21. jennifer April 23rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    # randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    “Should Rodriguez cut across the large rug in the middle of the Oval Office or go around through the Rose Garden to shake hands with Obama?”

    if he gets out of there without creating an international incident he’ll be doing just fine.

    ******

    LOL I hope he doesn’t pick up the “red phone”

  22. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    Brandon, you give Nick too much credit for having all of the wit on this blog. At best, he only has half of the wit.

    ************

    Am I the other half?? :lol:

  23. tex's friend (tantrum free for 12 hours) April 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    I work 2 blocks from the white house and i hope the Yankees ride down K St. This would be the closest thing this city will ever see to a parade ever again.

  24. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    pat m and gb7-

    i have to be careful with posts like that.

    some of the youngsters are a little sensitive .

    they wouldn’t understand smacking someone for something someone said.

    all kidding aside marc and i were fine after we got the unwritten rules sorted out.

  25. ray (sox fan) April 23rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    As one who has sometimes criticized Arod in the past, I find myself thinking what is the big deal here anyways?

    Simply put, I think because of who Arod is in the game every move he makes gets over examined and it is just my opinion but I don’t think what happened in last night’s game is worth hypervenilating about.

  26. Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    GB, You did this blog a great service by posting the Mantle piece….I wonder how many Yankee fans really took the time to check it out……….Kate Hudson ( new and improved )where are you ?????

  27. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    I’m not worried about him picking up the “Red Phone” but, if he asks for for an outside 888 line, Obama had better hide Michelle.

  28. Bronx Jeers April 23rd, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    A humorous take on some of A-Rods “Other Violations” from El Duque over at the It Is High blog.

    ———————————————————————————————

    Other Unwritten Rules of Baseball A-Rod Has Broken
    Posted by el duque at 7:30 AM

    1. While crossing infield after foul ball, touches opposing pitcher’s rubber.

    2. While crossing infield after foul ball, touches opposing pitcher.

    3. After touching opposing pitcher, never calls.

    4. Reveals deep personal secrets during infield chatter.

    5. Refuses to buy Girl Scout cookies from teammates’ daughters.

    6. After hitting single, tries to give backrub to opposing firstbaseman.

    7. Instead of rally cap… rally cup.

    8. Tapes mirrors to shoes for glimpse up umpire pantlegs.

    9. Borrows teammates’ bats and leaves them smelling of aftershave.

    10. Rejects opposing players’ friendship requests on Facebook.

  29. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    Brandon, you give Nick too much credit for having all of the wit on this blog. At best, he only has half of the wit.

    ************

    Am I the other half??

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Erica, I’d never call you a half wit.

  30. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 18 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Isn’t there an unwritten rule that you don’t barrel over a catcher in spring training?

    Why don’t you ask Joe Madden or Cervelli about that unwritten rule?

    Cisco didn’t throw a temper tantrum either… and perhaps he actually had reason to.

    Braden is a punk.

  31. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    It looks like the big fire at my beach club yesterday was electrical. This stinks :-(

    http://www.newsday.com/long-is.....-1.1877198

  32. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Erica, I?d never call you a half wit.

    ************

    Much appreciated!

  33. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 18 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    ray,

    you’re spot on.

    It seems like the Yankees will always be in the news. For years, ARod and the team gave the media plenty of gossip and salacious stuff to write about.

    Now that it’s back to just playing baseball, it’s a little harder to come up with headlines… but they’ll do it one way or another.

  34. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    # bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes April 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    I Like Inge April 23rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
    A-Rod doesn’t need to diffuse anything. He didn’t do anything wrong.
    ====

    Right. Everyone wants to see Alex do the “mea culpa” routine.

    He’s done with that. Alex is supposed to apologize for being born, apparently.

    I like this liberated Alex. He won a World Series, he seems at peace and comfortable in his own skin and on the Yankees.

    Deal with it, world. He’s going to shine on – and it’s just too f-ing bad if people don’t like it or him.

    You go, ARod!”

    BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Whats the bigger joke than braden is former red sox duchscherer!!!

  35. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    GB, You did this blog a great service by posting the Mantle piece….I wonder how many Yankee fans really took the time to check it out……….Kate Hudson ( new and improved )where are you ?????

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Pat, not sure if anybody was interested in it or not, but, I love the history and sadly, the unfulfilled promise of a damaged legend….both self-inflicted and for trying too hard.

  36. David in Cal April 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    (Re post from prior thread)

    Hope I’m not too early for GTLU

    Jeter SS
    Johnson DH
    Teix 1B
    ARod 3B
    Cano 2B
    Posada C
    Granderson CF
    Swisher RF
    Gardner LF

    BTW the Yanks have been great, but the Rays even greater. Not only are they 1/2 game ahead of the Yanks, look at the run differentials: Yanks 81-52 TB 93-54. The Pythagorean rule would equate TB’s run differential to a .748 winning percentage, or 121 wins.

    I wonder what the record is for most games won in a season by each of 2 teams in the same division. This record could be broken in 2010.

  37. Pel April 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Dallas said there were going to be repercussions. His max velocity is like 89 MPH, barely striking fear into the hearts of causing minimal concern for people who cannot move without assistance.

  38. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Erica, I?d never call you a half wit.

    ************

    Much appreciated!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Erica, your humor is in a league of it’s own. Always humorous without viciousness. If you want to be one of the “guys” you gotta get nasty and cranky.

  39. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 18 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    A major league source tells Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com that the Red Sox have targeted Diamondbacks catcher Chris Snyder on their “down-the-road hit list.”

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....ril-040310

  40. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    ray sox fan-

    maybe you can help me.

    i’ve been seeing this woman who’s a red sox fan.

    i sent her an email that said ” hey did you hear the one about how america runs on dunking donuts, but MLB runs on victor martinez.”

    she sent back “Did you hear the one about the Yankees fan who no longer gets ———-”

    man, red sox fans are a little touchy right now.

  41. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Erica, your humor is in a league of it?s own. Always humorous without viciousness. If you want to be one of the ?guys? you gotta get nasty and cranky.

    ******************

    There is a lot more than being nasty and cranky keeping me from being one of the guys :-)

    But thank you very much for the compliment in there

  42. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    ray sox fan-

    maybe you can help me.

    i?ve been seeing this woman who?s a red sox fan.

    i sent her an email that said ? hey did you hear the one about how america runs on dunking donuts, but MLB runs on victor martinez.?

    she sent back ?Did you hear the one about the Yankees fan who no longer gets ???-?

    man, red sox fans are a little touchy right now.

    *****************

    LOL- touche for her Randy.

    She clearly wins that battle

  43. Jeremy April 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    CR9
    What did Duchscherer say ? I heard that he said something about the Yankees. The thing is you can tell that a lot of these teams are jealous of the yankees. It’s not their fault that the A’s haven’t won anything in god know’s when in a weak division.

  44. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    Ya know, If I were Alex, next time I face Braden….

    I would just go out to the mound, and step right on it, then spit on it, put my arms out, and say “What are you gonna do about it!!!!!!!!!”

  45. Peter R April 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    # GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Peter R April 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    EL Duderino nicely put.

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    You two need to get a room somewhere.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Oh sorry GB7 I call you out for being a bully and a dick to our hardworking writer Sam and you come back with some mature comment, I guess I should have expect as much. Anyone who doesn’t agree with your profound baseball knowledge gets insulted and isn’t worth you time. No wonder it is only like 20 people who post here all night, everyone else cant stand the attitude on this blogs comment section.

  46. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Erica, I’m a southern gentleman, so I won’t ask for proof. I’ll just wimper softly to myself.

  47. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Jeremy

    ““If I pitch against Tampa Bay no one would ask me that,” Duchscherer said

    “Because they get all the coverage from the media. We have some damn good players on our team. If they played for the Yankees they’d be superstars.”

    The whole conversation by Duch sounds like one big conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!

    It was a simple question, and it would have been asked if the Rays were coming to town also.

    I wonder if he’ll have the same POV when the Red Sox come to town.

    What a ass

    ____

    I can GUARANTEE that Duchscherer aint saying a cross word if the reporter mentioned the Sox coming to town.

    And on Braden, if Youk or Vmart or Varitek ran across his mound, he’d be saying “Thank you sir for gracing me with the honor of crossing my mound.”

    He just picked on Alex because he knows Alex is the easiest target on the easy target known as the New York Yankees, and that many people would agree with him.

    I do agree with Braden on one thing he said, he isnt a speck on Alex’s radar, nor should be be!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. Bronx Born April 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    GB could you repost the Mantle piece I musta missed it.

  49. Rich in NJ April 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Will it be televised?

  50. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Peter R April 23rd, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    # GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Peter R April 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    EL Duderino nicely put.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    You two need to get a room somewhere.

    ————————————————————————————————

    Oh sorry GB7 I call you out for being a bully and a dick to our hardworking writer Sam and you come back with some mature comment, I guess I should have expect as much. Anyone who doesn’t agree with your profound baseball knowledge gets insulted and isn’t worth you time. No wonder it is only like 20 people who post here all night, everyone else cant stand the attitude on this blogs comment section.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    sniffle…snerx. I’m hurt by your words. But, you’re right. you’re not worth my time.

  51. Jeremy April 23rd, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    randy l.
    LOL ! That was a funny reply she gave. I would be nice if I were you.

  52. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    sure thing, Bronx. It’s in two parts because I can’t put two links in one post.

    http://www.themick.com/10homers.html#Home Run #1

    2nd part on the way

  53. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    “A major league source tells Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com that the Red Sox have targeted Diamondbacks catcher Chris Snyder on their “down-the-road hit list.””

    Of course they are. Every april the sox draw up their wish list of players they will acquire and of course because they have infinite talent and genius they are able to acquire those players. The other team naturally is always read to help out because it’s largely a unilateral decision.

    The Rangers go 14 for 14 in steals and conveniently the boston front office leaks their “plan” on fixing the problem the fan base is rightfully going nutty about. What a coincidence.

    And they also conveniently leak how they “offerred” official closer in waiting Dan Bard to the D’Backs for a real catcher Miguel Montero but lo and behold it’s not their fault the deal wasn’t completed because the D’Backs rejected it.

    They leak these rumors like a sieve and it’s just to make it seem like they are “actively” doing something about the glaring mess they’ve made of the roster.

    Because this problem with throwing out runners wasn’t evident last year when Martinez threw out 11% of runners and Varitek 7% of runners.

  54. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    “Anyone who doesn’t agree with your profound baseball knowledge gets insulted and isn’t worth you time”

    peter r-

    actually it’s an unwritten baseball rule that if you aren’t insulted no one likes you.

    maybe gb7 was just trying to welcome you to the fold.

    except sometimes when someone is really a doofus, it’s an unwritten rule to point that out really fast.

    billy martin was like that.

    i’m going to have to study your case more to see is any unwritten rules were broken.

  55. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    2nd part, Bronx

    http://mickeymantle.com/insights.htm

  56. Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Hey Pel….Believe it or not, getting drilled with a 89 mph pitch hurts buddy, especially if it’s in the ribs…..

  57. Jeremy April 23rd, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    It’s time that the Yankees start getting some retribution. The Phillies pitchers attacked out hitters in the World Series, the Rays attacked Yankee players, and the A’s players are talking trash about the Yankees. If any team needed to get some retribution it’s the Yanks.

  58. Bronx Born April 23rd, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Thanks GB…

  59. blake April 23rd, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    The Red sox have put out feelers that they would like to trade Daniel Bard and six bats for Joe Mauer…they are in the process of waiting for confirmation from the Twins on the trade.

  60. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Buster will pick that rumor up and run with it, lol

  61. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    I saw a cut and paste by Pete A. on another sight where he advocates instead of getting Adrian Gonzales, they just trade for Kurt Suzuki. Not sure why Oakland would trade a young, cost controlled and talented catcher that they can’t replace or what Boston has that would interest them, but, that’s some serious reaching. Oakland does not need Buchholz or pitching.

  62. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Jeremy

    Absolutely.

    The Yankees, though leading the league in HBPs last year, mainly due to lack of control, need to get retribution…by winning first and foremost, but also by striking fear in others.

    If I’m the Yankees, I just bring up Jonathan Albaladejo at some point later in the season if we have a healthy lead…

    Let Alby just drill people. Get suspended. Come back. Drill some more people. He’s expendable. I’d even have Alby, next time against the As at the Coliseum, if we play them again there, in the bullpen and hit Braden while in the bullpen.

    “Oops, the ball got away from me, my bad”

  63. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Betsy

    Who’s Buster?

  64. Judge Smails April 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Buster Olney

  65. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Teams are starting to fear the Yankees again, that’s why they keep opening their mouths.

  66. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    “Because this problem with throwing out runners wasn’t evident last year when Martinez threw out 11% of runners and Varitek 7% of runners.”

    cb-

    the red sox made the mistake that teams would keep running on them at that rate.

    the premise was what happened in the past would happen in the future.

    the problem with that is when it dawns on the opposition that there is a weak spot eventually it gets out and after some initial inertia to react the league jumps on it.

    some teams don’t like changing what they do to go after a weakness another team has because they believe in sticking to what they do well.

    but the red sox catchers are so bad that teams will change what they normally do to expose them.

    theo counted on this continuing.

  67. blake April 23rd, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    In all honesty Suzuki would help their 2010 team about as much as Adrian would…However as you said Boston has very little that Oakland needs to offer..

  68. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    The Sox are going to turn thing around. Trade acquisitions from this past winter Roy Halladay and Felix Hernandez are of course throwing these next two games whipping fastballs to battery mate Joe Mauer.

  69. Bronx Born April 23rd, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Really appreciate the link GB Mantle was very special …

  70. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    CB, did they explain that trading for a catcher who may be out of action for at least 6 weeks to 3 months because of knee surgery would help Boston right now?

    http://espn.go.com/sports/fant.....id=5078104

  71. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    sure thing, Bronx. my pleasure. Enjoy the read.

  72. blake April 23rd, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Isn’t it kinda bad form to come out and say that a member of another team is on your “down the road list”? Would that violate one of dallas Braden’s “secret rules of the diamond”?

  73. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Buster Olney?

    I dont know no Buster Olney.
    I do know a Boston Only. Is he the guy?

  74. tampayank April 23rd, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    hmmm holding back sarcastic political comment*

  75. Rich in NJ April 23rd, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Mauer actually accepted a below market value contract to facilitate a future trade to the RS.

  76. ray (sox fan) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    ray sox fan-

    maybe you can help me.

    i’ve been seeing this woman who’s a red sox fan.

    i sent her an email that said ” hey did you hear the one about how america runs on dunking donuts, but MLB runs on victor martinez.”

    she sent back “Did you hear the one about the Yankees fan who no longer gets ———-”

    man, red sox fans are a little touchy right now.
    ————————————————————————————————

    LMAO!! Randy..Randy…I don’t know that I help you on that one!

  77. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Sure, Suzuki would help any team, but, they’d at least want offense back plus more and Boston has none to spare. Oakland is under no pressure to trade him at all.

  78. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    They want to trade for Snyder, Montero’s backup. Unfortunately, with Montero injured, he’s on their “down the road” list!

  79. ray (sox fan) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    GB,
    Just thinking here. Wondering if your significant other Nurse Karloff might be a candidate for catcher for my Sox.

    She sounds tough and she wouldn’t let Yankee run on her!! :)

  80. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
    2nd part, Bronx

    http://mickeymantle.com/insights.htm

    ******************

    The discussion of separating postseason statistics from world series stats is a very valid argument.

  81. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    “the red sox made the mistake that teams would keep running on them at that rate.

    the premise was what happened in the past would happen in the future.”

    randy-

    Your absolutely correct but it’s actually much worse than what you describe. 11% and 7% were the caught stealing rates from last year.

    Now just assume that the sox could actually achieve that level of “success” (which right now they can’t – which is beyond belief). They would still have a bigger problem.

    If you throw out 11% of runners and people make 50 attempts that means you will have given up around 45 extra bases due to guys not caught.

    But if the league wisens up and really decides to go all out and attempts 100 steals then you’ll have given up 90 extra bases.

    What I’m saying is that often times in baseball we focus on rate statistics e.g. batting average, caught stealing %, etc. At the same time rate statistics can obscure how bad a problem is because they don’t get across certain aspect of the scope of the problem.

    The yankees catcher have thrown out something like 1 out of 12 guys. That’s not great, but it’s mostly a product of small samples.

    Part of what is so bad about the Sox situation – the part I think they really didn’t anticipate – isn’t that they’ve thrown out only 3% of stolen base attempts this year – an even bigger problem in many ways is that through 16 games the opposition has attempted 37 steals.

    That’s more than 2 attempts a game. That is unbelievable.

    Even if they could stabilize at last years rate, this year teams were going to try to steal far more often. So if the sox didn’t get better they were risking giving up a lot of extra bases.

    And it’s ironic because we hear a lot about how much of a benefit having Martinez would be for their offense as he would be on the team the entire season.

    But we didn’t hear much about how having Victor the whole season would accelerate the merry go round on the bases.

    Victor is so shell shocked out there he’s having trouble throwing the ball back to the pitcher. And he’s not hitting at all.

  82. Erin April 23rd, 2010 at 2:19 pm

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  83. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    The angels have an extra catcher in Napoli, but, Moreno smells blood in the water and he’s going to take a lot of whatever Boston has left.

  84. Jeremy April 23rd, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    CR9
    I know. The Yankees need to do something because I’m tired of seeing other teams attacking the Yankees and talking trash about them.

  85. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    ray (sox fan) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    GB,
    Just thinking here. Wondering if your significant other Nurse Karloff might be a candidate for catcher for my Sox.

    She sounds tough and she wouldn’t let Yankee run on her!!

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    She might be of help to Boston, Ray. Rumor has it around the hospital that she’s caught everything else including runners.

  86. G. Love April 23rd, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    The Red Sox have to be looking forward to the Dodgers series they play this season.

    We all know Torre won’t run on them.

  87. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Napoli will be unavailable now, as Mathis is injured. Anyhow, the Angels normally carry 3 catchers on their roster, as that is a position highly valued by former catcher Scioscia!

  88. blake April 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    GB, wouldn’t sox fans have a tough time distinguishing Nurse Karloff from Youkalis…we wouldn’t want to create confusion now.

  89. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    “The angels have an extra catcher in Napoli, but, Moreno smells blood in the water and he’s going to take a lot of whatever Boston has left.”

    GB7-

    Not any more. Of course we were already hearing rumors about how Arte was going to do Theo a favor and trade him Napoli.

    But Mathis just suffered a serious injury (broke wrist? – not sure I forgot) and is out for over a month.

    Teams don’t trade starting catchers midseason frequently at all. They are too hard to get and get hurt too often. Even martinez last year when he was traded wasn’t an everyday catcher.

    Why would the A’s trade Kurt Suzuki. Almost every team would want Kurt Suzuki. He’s a terrific ball player.

    m wants Suzuki for her beer league softball team (or is it poi league over there?)

    m has as much chance of throwing slow pitch to Kurt as Theo does.

  90. Jeremy April 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Boston can’t get Mauer just like they can’t get Agon. They don’t have enough in the farm to get wither of those guys if they tried unless they gave up some talent on the major league level like Jon Lester.

  91. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    CB

    Yes, it’s Mathis’ wrist.

    Every AL team should have some interest in Adrian, like every team should have interest in Suzuki.

  92. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 18 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    CB,

    The fact that more players are attempting steals also means that guys with weaker SB rates are stealing.

    It’s one thing if Rajai Davis is 5 of 6 stealing against your team, and Carl Crawford is 7 for 8.

    Most teams SB rates inherently are against the top base stealers.

    When Vlad Guerrero and non-base stealers are attempting and succeeding at stealing bases, it’s exponentially bad.

    7 and 11% success is bad, but if it were the elite base stealers only, that’s one thing.

    It really can’t be much worse for the Sox.

  93. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    If Boston really needs a catcher, I hear that Carlton Fisk is out of work

  94. BD (Boston Dave) - NJ walk tracker = 18 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    CB,

    I can see Arizona trading Snyder though (once Montero is back).

    He is set to make $11 over the next 2 seasons (assuming he is bought out in 2012).

    The Sox can probably lure him away for virtually nothing if they absorb most of that contract.

  95. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Blake, they’re easy to tell apart. Nurse Karloff has more facial hair.

  96. GreenBeret7 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    Cb, I hadn’t seen anything on Mathis being hurt. That’s a tough break, though for the yanks, it’s good. Fine defensive catcher and always seems to hurt the yanks with his bat.

  97. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    “The fact that more players are attempting steals also means that guys with weaker SB rates are stealing.”

    BD-

    Oh I agree. And the thing is before the season I was just guessing off the top of my head the selection effect you are describing absolutely would happen.

    Lesser base stealers would try to run on the Sox.

    And usually when that happens one would expect the selection effect to “improve” the sox caught stealing rate at least 5% or so.

    And even if that “improvement” were to happen the sox would still be worse off because their caught stolen rate would still be bad and they’d be giving up far more bases.

    But that logical selection effect isn’t actually happening in the real world. Far worse base stealers are going on them – like Vlad Guerrero – and their caught stealing rate is actually worse.

    The substantive issues at play here aren’t even fully reflected in the stats. The problem is actually much bigger than 3% caught stolen rate.

    Quantifying the value of a stolen base is difficult because it really depends on context e.g. stolen base down 1-0 is much more valuable than a stolen base up 10-0.

    But in general if a runner can be successful stealing a base around 69-70% of the time – around there – he is generating positive value. That’s the general tipping point where the bags you steal generate more value than the outs you make getting caught.

    Now I know the Sox have their own methods for estimating this value effect as they factor in variables associated with pitching performance (which is very difficult to model accurately…).

    But If 70% is the baseline tipping point for positive value and you’re giving up stolen bases at 97%, including attempts by players who have no cartilage in their knees – you have a big “oops” on your hands.

  98. CR9 April 23rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    CB

    I have an interesting question for you.

    I, by no means, feel bad for the Red Sox catching situation. I enjoy seeing other teams taking advantage of their weakness.

    But my question is, hasnt there ever been a team with 2 catcher’s with little throwing prowess as VMart and Tek?

    Because, I dont remember teams EVER stealing on any team at this rate.

    And I have to imagine there had to be at least 1 team in the last 30 years that had poor defensive catchers on their roster that could not throw people out.

  99. Wave Your Hat April 23rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    As far as I can tell, there have been eight games in the retrosheet era where a team stole 9 or more bases on the opposing team.

    In those games, the team allowing 9 or more SBs won 5 and lost 3.

    So, clearly, the Sox are in great shape with Martinez and Varitek.

  100. Phil Columbus April 23rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Red Sox should send Victor to the Giants for Bengie Molina. Giants could use Victor’s bat at 1B and Posey is going to be ready soon. The Giants need to add a bat or 2 or that great pitching staff is going to go to waste.

  101. Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    The BoSox catching situation was exposed last August….I remember the Yanks exposing it and then The Angels blew the lid off ……What is confusing is that Theo has promoted this new defensive lock down mentality, yet he did zero to repair their most glaring concern……Glad I took the Sox on the unders ( 94 ) this season….Just about every single / walk is a double in Beantown nowadays

  102. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    good fielding catchers with strong arms are all over triple a baseball.

    if theo really wants to put his money where his mouth is about run prevention all he has to do is pick up one of those guys.

    if the catching throwing woes were his only problem, he could carry one of these weak hitting catchers. the problem is he has 24 million tied up in ortiz and lowell and has a weak hitting left fielder which is usually a productive offensive position.

    the red sox don’t have the offense right now to carry a weak hitting defensive catcher.

    it’s just a crying shame someone as smart as theo got in this mess :)

  103. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    “Because, I dont remember teams EVER stealing on any team at this rate.”

    I can’t think of any. It’s a style of baseball that is actually much more reminiscent of baseball in the dead ball era where teams would run all of the time because the risk reward ration was much better. No one could hit a home run so why not run?

    Real bad when it’s done by the team that was second in home runs last year.

  104. Erin April 23rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm

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  105. CB April 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    “the red sox don’t have the offense right now to carry a weak hitting defensive catcher.”

    Which is why these Chris Synder rumors are so curious. He’s not good and can’t really hit. And he’s making a lot of money.

    That’s not a solution – it’s just adding to certain problems that are already in place.

  106. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 23rd, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=5128658

    But just how damaging are all of these steals? Consider that 19 of the 36 stolen bases have resulted in the runner eventually scoring. Another way of looking at it, 18 of the 85 runners to score this season against the Red Sox have stolen a base on their journey to home plate. No other AL team has even allowed 18 steals.

  107. Pat M. April 23rd, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Theo may make a call on Jermaine Dye to play leftfield……Wonder if Dye would leave his Little League team to play in Beantown…..Wonder if his back would allow him to do so….

  108. randy l. April 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    “And I have to imagine there had to be at least 1 team in the last 30 years that had poor defensive catchers on their roster that could not throw people out.”

    well , there was the thunder bay whiskey cats back in ’94.

    i know they were bad because they asked me to catch for them.

    i shouldn’t poke fun at myself so much though.
    i once thew out 13 runners in a double header in semi pro ball once.
    the other manager couldn’t believe my funky throw could throw out college kids who could run so he kept sending them.

    it’s all how quick you release the ball.
    some of the best throwing arms with catchers are negated because while they throw a rising pure back spin bb down to second base they take too long to load up and release the ball.

    thurman munson had a semi sidearm throw that he released really quickly and it was effective.
    i’ll bet the release times of martinez and varitek are really slow and when they try to speed it up they lose velocity.

    varitek has been catching forever and it knows how to throw a rising 4 seam throw to second with pure backspin to make it go straight, but he can’t get time to do it for whatever reason.
    in the last game i saw he was throwing balls with so much sidespin and sink they weren’t even reaching the bag.

    a really good throwing catcher automatically grips the ball like a four seam fastball. in the minors they have catchers flip the ball in the air and grab it by the four seams. you hand can feel it and reposition in a millisecond if you’ve done it enough.

    neither red sox catcher is doing it. why, i have no idea.

  109. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 23rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    new thread :arrow:
    Pitching match ups

  110. Erin April 23rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    New Post: Pitching matchups in Anaheim

  111. Betsy - Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 23rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/bost…..id=5128658

    But just how damaging are all of these steals? Consider that 19 of the 36 stolen bases have resulted in the runner eventually scoring. Another way of looking at it, 18 of the 85 runners to score this season against the Red Sox have stolen a base on their journey to home plate. No other AL team has even allowed 18 steals.

  112. Jackson44 April 23rd, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    ARod was right to tell that scrub to beat it. Sometimes you just gotta call a fool a fool, even if you’re supposed to be a “bigger man” and “take the high road”. It’s not like Arod took a dump on the mound…jesus, Base ball players are such whiners. “it’s my house”? dude..get a life.

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