Game 18: Yankees at Angels
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread, Notes on Apr 25, 2010 
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YANKEES (12-5)
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada DH
Marcus Thames LF
Curtis Granderson CF
Francisco Cervelli C
RHP Javier Vazquez (1-2, 8.27)
Career vs. Angels
ANGELS (9-10)
Maicer Izturis SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Torii Hunter CF
Hideki Matsui DH
Kendry Morales 1B
Juan Rivera LF
Howie Kendrick 2B
Mike Napoli C
Brandon Wood 3B
LHP Scott Kazmir (1-1, 7.45)
Career vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 3:35 p.m./YES Network
UMPIRES: HP Alfonso Marquez, 1B Tim Timmons, 2B Tim Tschida, 3B Bob Davidson
WEATHER: We’ve had three gorgeous days in Southern California, and today might be the nicest.
Joe Girardi met with the media a little later than usual, so I’ll just throw the pregame notes here in the game post.
• “We’re going with a more right-handed lineup today,” Girardi said. That’s part of the reason for starting Cervelli at catcher and leaving Posada at DH. Girardi also said he liked the idea of essentially giving Posada three days away from catching. “It does keep him fresh,” Girardi said.
• Girardi said “there’s always a worry” when both catchers are in the lineup, but the concern wasn’t enough to keep him from doing it. The emergency catcher is Ramiro Pena, who occasionally catches between innings. That said, Girardi said he has been “impressed” when he’s seen A.J. Burnett squat to catch some pitches during pregame warmups. Burnett caught when he was younger, but there’s no chance he’ll actually catch in a game.
• Nick Johnson said his sore lower back is “a lot better.” He won’t take any swings today and the Yankees will see how he feels after taking some swings on Tuesday. Girardi said he does not consider Johnson a pinch hit option.
• The Yankees still plan to send Chan Ho Park to Tampa tomorrow.
• Brett Gardner has been hitting pretty well lately, but Girardi said he wanted to give every outfield a day off during this West Coast swing and Gardner had played every other day.
• Another reason to go with Marcus Thames over Gardner: Thames is a career .412 hitter with a .706 slugging percentage against Kazmir.
• The Yankees will meet the President tomorrow, and Derek Jeter compared walking into the Oval Office to walking into George Steinbrenner’s office.
• The Yankees were passing around an autographed jersey that seemed to be the one they’ll give to President Obama tomorrow. It was No. 27, not No. 44.
• Dave Winfield was in the clubhouse this morning and sat talking to Jeter for quite a while. It was amazing how many Yankees Winfield seemed to have a personal relationship with including Thames, Curtis Granderson, Mariano Rivera, Joba Chamberlain, Andy Pettitte and CC Sabathia. He was Jeter’s favorite player when Jeter was a kid.
UPDATE, 4:00 p.m.: Robinson Cano’s hot start has kind of masked Jorge Posada’s hot start. Posada just sent a rocket to center field for a two-run homer (after Kazmir plunked Cano).
UPDATE, 4:07 p.m.: Looked like a good call at first base. Jeter beat the play and drove in a run with a fielder’s choice. It’s 3-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 4:41 p.m.: That was Abreu’s 10th career home run against Vazquez. That’s easily the most he’s hit off a single pitcher. The most he’s hit off anyone else is four.
UPDATE, 4:58 p.m.: The Angels have pulled within one with a single, hit batter, single here in the fourth. They aren’t hitting Vazquez hard, but they’ve done enough to make it a 3-2 game.
UPDATE, 5:01 p.m.: A walk to Napoli has loaded the bases with one out in the fourth. That sent Dave Eiland to the mound for a brief chat.
UPDATE, 5:02 p.m.: You’re always sacrificing some defense when you start Thames in left field, and he certainly didn’t play that ball especially well.
UPDATE, 5:04 p.m.: Wow. Quick hook on Vazquez. Boone Logan coming in to face Bobby Abreu in the fourth. Vazquez actually looked OK until this inning. He was at 78 pitches.
UPDATE, 5:24 p.m.: Solid three outs from Logan, but the Morales single will chase him from the game. Here comes Aceves.
UPDATE, 5:32 p.m.: Cano was not happy about being hit by a pitch in the second inning, but he seemed to really enjoy that home run to right. Three of his five home runs this year have come off Kazmir.
UPDATE, 5:35 p.m.: Angels bring in a right-handed reliever. Yankees bring in Gardner to pinch hit for Thames.
UPDATE, 5:58 p.m.: Aceves has done his part. Now here comes Marte. Five up, five down for Aceves.
UPDATE, 6:00 p.m.: Robertson is getting loose in the pen.
UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: An intentional ball to Morales. Then some confusion on the field. Then Torii Hunter stole third with two outs. Then Morales clobbered a 3-0 pitch for a three-run home run. Something was terribly wrong that entire at-bat. It’s now 8-4 Angels, Robertson has sat down and Mitre is getting loose.
This seems like it’s going to be an on-going thing with Nick, unfortunately.
I would love to see AJ catch for an inning, lol.
Aww, I love Winny; it’s nice to see that he’s got good relationships with several Yankees.
Is it wrong for me to want to see how AJ looks behind the plate??? LOL
I can’t wait to see pictures from their White House visit tomorrow
Derek Jeter compared walking into the Oval Office to walking into George Steinbrenner’s office.
LOL
The Boss must have laughed about that one
Even though the orioles are leading 1-0. The chances of them winning is still 0%.
AJax just hit his first homerun
Oneof Derek’s visits to the Boss’s office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7BaQEguYs
Phil Columbus April 25th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Oneof Derek’s visits to the Boss’s office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7BaQEguYs
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That’s one of my all time favorite commercials!
“Pat M, bring a sign so that we know who you are, lol!”
betsy-
pat m’s easy to spot.
he’s the one eating medicinal brownies and strangling the rally monkey.
“AJax just hit his first homerun”
Oh, I used to love that commercial!
It’s poignant to see the Boss in that, though.
I’m sure many of you have seen this, for those who haven’t, this is funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyhXlPCI4Q
For Scranton, about the only ones hitting right now, only the top 3 are hitting. after 2 outs and Corona walked, Russo, Curtis and Nunez all singled to score 2 runs. Russo is 2-3 (triple), Curtis is 3-4 and Nunez is 4-4 with 2 doubles. Russo has scored twice Curtis otwice and an RBI, and Nunez has 3 RBI.
5-3 Scranton
Phil -
I never saw that. Hysterical!
Was it a real commercial or just for Comedy Central?
And after a solid outing from Hernandez, and barely any support from his offense, and roided 3rd baseman, the game looks in danger.
Good job today Hernandez. You battled all day, and ur team didnt pick u up. Dont worry, though, just wait another week til your offense is facing one of the best pitchers in the game, CC Sabathia (if they face him)
correction: 5-4 Scranton
Why doesnt William Shatner put in Matt Albers again???
If you want to lose to the Red Sox, that’s the easiest way to do it.
Phil Columbus April 25th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
I’m sure many of you have seen this, for those who haven’t, this is funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyhXlPCI4Q
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I had forgotten all about that commericial. Hilarious!
Thanks for the link!
LOL Randy – I wouldn’t mind some of those medicinal browies as they might stop me from worrying!
Doreen
Comedy Central. Gotta love the chowder heads though. lol
No matter how much things change, they always stay the same!!!
WooooHooooo
Welcome to the new Orioles, the same as the old Orioles, or WORSE!!
They’re on pace for 18 losses to the Sox this year!! WoooHoooo!!
“Derek Jeter compared walking into the Oval Office to walking into George Steinbrenner’s office.”
He’s a funny guy, that Cap’n. Droll, you might say.
Reminds me of the story about Jim Thorpe and King Gustav V of Sweden at the 1912 Olympics. Handing Thorpe his gold medal, King Gustav proclaimed: “You, sir, are the greatest athlete in the World.” Thorpe is reported to have replied, “Thanks, King.”
So who will the sox play next?
The orioles again?
murphy
Can you insult Poo pyica Loopyca again?? Please!!!
The Orioles just got no reason to exist.
Lets go Yankees!!!
one thing that is different here frm seasons past, is the halo fans are not so full of their angels own the yanks….this is how it used to be when the bombers would come in here and own the place..lots of yankee fans as always..
Phil -
I don’t know which was funnier – losing the kid or losing the you-know-what! Liked the touch with snipping one of the mastercard circles.
Dina
They exist for a perfectly good reason. To help the Red Sox
“Can you insult Poo pyica Loopyca again?? Please!!!”
CR9:
I can’t just turn it on and off. I’m not a machine, you know!
Although I did notice Loopy has rekindled his romance with Jose Reyes again. I wish those two would just run off with each other already and get married in one of those states that has legalized columnist-player marriage.
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....again.html
“”"”"Nick Johnson said his sore lower back is “a lot better.” He won’t take any swings today and the Yankees will see how he feels after taking some swings on Tuesday. Girardi said he does not consider Johnson a pinch hit option.”"”"
No, put him in the line up, the green lantern said he is the best DH in the AL!
The O’s exist to give everyone who plays them free wins. Not just the sox.
The Orioles are just an absolute disgrace.
Their bullpen is just historically bad at this point. Another blown lead against Boston.
“Derek Jeter compared walking into the Oval Office to walking into George Steinbrenner’s office.”
It’s very similar except that one was a capitalist and one was a socialist.
The Sox will face the Orioles next weekend too !
We’re looking at a possible trip to Cali this summer. If you had the choice, would you go to see the Dodgers in their stadium or the stadium in Anaheim?
(The Yankees are not in town).
I figure SF is the better one to see over Oakland.
The Sox are better than the O’s – what did people expect?
I can see that if the Yankees don’t sweep the O’s this board is going to get ugly.
Porcello looks like toast right now.
ERA over 7 and not fooling any hitters.
Detroit better hope they didn’t wear out that arm.
“Somehow he seems to be in motion, ready to be a streak of light again on the bases, even when he is nearly still.”
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....z0m8sfmMwO
If I’m Loopy’s wife, I’m starting to get more than a little concerned. This turgid prose about the hyperthyroidic shortstop for the Mets combined with Loopy’s unhealthy, but financially rewarding, fascination with boys who play travel team sports? Hello, Mrs. L? Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, girlfriend.
I always thought George was a dictator.
The Sox are and can be better than the Orioles.
Their problem?
They’re not nearly as good as the Yankees or Rays.
And in the AL East, that’s a BIG problem.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed, but Kazmir has definitely changed his delivery this year.
He never used to bring his hands over his head like that, he used to have a long and deliberate windup.
BD, didn’t they have innings limits on Porcello? How many did he end up throwing last year?
“It’s very similar except that one was a capitalist and one was a socialist.”
Actually, given the revenue sharing and payroll tax of MLB, George Steinbrenner is in fact a prominent leading member of a socialist organization…
Just sayin’…
Doreen
That just puts a smile on my face even though the Sox did win the series. I just start laughing anytime I see Dennis Leary talking about the Sox on a talk show like Mike and Mike, thinking about his missing …
BD, it’s too early to say that, don’t you think?
I also don’t get why people think the Yankees are going to dominate when the Rays aren’t going anywhere. Let’s say the Sox don’t really contend – this is going to be a back and forth battle all year between the Rays and Yankees.
Kaz is getting squeezed this at bat
Good Ab for tex!
Are we really going to have to hear about “the collision” from these Angels announcers all game?
23 pitches already for Kazmir.
Does not look like the new delivery is going to help him last more than 5 innings.
# Angel – In an Empire State of Mind April 25th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Are we really going to have to hear about “the collision” from these Angels announcers all game?
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Does anybody ever let anything go involving the Yankees?
Re: Sox and Dennis Leary
One of the funniest video clips I have ever seen was one in which Dennis Leary visited the broadcast booth at Fenway a few years ago. He was talking about Youkilis and when he was told that Youkilis was Jewish, he went on a tirade calling out Mel Gibson for his anti-semitic remarks and throwing in some Youkilis love … I just looked quickly in youtube and can’t find it. Sox fan he may be, but he’s funny.
Apparently not, Rob.
I get that is was a bad collision and they’re worried about their player, but honestly its really starting to wear on me already.
might be a long day with this ump behind the plate.
Mark Teixeira is a notoriously slow starter as we all know.
But at times, slow starts to the season can attract more attention than they do later on in the season.
You have a slump later on and you have prior production to fall back on. You do it at the start of the season there’s a lot of zeroes to deal with.
But if you look at Tex’s entire career this is almost the worst he’s ever been for an extended period of time.
SG over at RLYB took a look at all of the worst 17 game stretches over Tex’s career – this “run” he’s on is the second worst 17 game spread he’s ever had.
The only time he’s had a worse 17 game stretch during any point in the season was back in 2003 when he was a rookie. And that took place in August of that season.
So after 10% of the season being done, this is the worst start Tex has ever had to a season.
Last year’s only the 6th worst 17 game stretch.
His swing looked a little better that last at bat – but he’s been better from the right hand side at baseline. He’s shown some signs before but then keeps regressing.
He’ll break out and when he does the offense will really be something. But right now he’s started worse than he ever has.
PitchFX having trouble discerning between Javy’s fastball and change up
Tejada 2run Hr
O’s tie it up 4-4
Sox pen just blew the 3 run lead
no win for wakefield
Thats my boy Javy keeping the ball down.
So after 10% of the season being done, this is the worst start Tex has ever had to a season.
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I doubt Tex can ever turn it around this season.
“Tejada 2run Hr”
CR9′s head just exploded. He hates Tejada and he hates the Sox. What to do??!
O’s tie it up 4-4
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Those damn O’s — just stop trying to tease us Yankee fans.
Just lose and go away.
Here.
http://www.blinkx.com/watch-vi.....LSi36xDCKw
That’s funny. Wakefield cruising along, and they take him out. Next thing you know, double, HR, tie ball game.
Murphy
THANK YOU for providing me with that Lupica material!!! I needed that after watching the Orioles collapse again.
I remember that Denis Leary Gibson tirade on NESN. I saw it live! Unfortunately, I cant betray my beliefs and like an arrogant Bostonian like Leary. His face is one of the fugliest mugs I’ve ever seen!
Probability of Orioles winning:
still 0%
TEJADA!!!!!
He tied the game!!!!
WoooHooooo!!!
He did something versus the Sox!!!!!!!
Not Cano’s butt!!
Posada!!!!!!!!!!
OMG!
That’s how you deal with that!
Take that Kazmir.
Paybacks a B word
Posada says: “Robbie, I got ya back!”
Wow, I can’t believe Flaherty doesn’t realize Cano hit 2 home runs against Kazmir last week. That’s why he’s knocking him back off the plate…
And now Posada goes deep haha!
kamzir, he hit hr , way to back your teamate
F U Kazmir.
Really. What a dud.
Jorge just marked his territory in the new tree farm.
Jorge has Robbie’s back and answers for him
Take that Kaz!!!
Now that’s payback!!!
Hip hip!!
the ageless wonder strikes again…well Posada..there are several on this team.
Jorge’s done. Done I tell you!
# LGY April 25th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
“Tejada 2run Hr”
CR9’s head just exploded. He hates Tejada and he hates the Sox. What to do??!
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
That was definitely on purpose….
And that was definitely sweet revenge….
That’s how you answer getting drilled.
Sounds like a lot of Yankee fans at the Big A today.
That’s how you get back!
Look at that crowd in Anaheim – half of them are Yankee fans! Including Pat M…
The Orioles are just trying to explore new ways of heartbreak.
Posada giving Kazmir the proverbial baseball version of the bird
Thames my boy!
Payback is a rather lovely lady.
I think Jorge really likes Kazmir’s pitches
How fast do you think Thames got out of the box there?
So far for Thames…
so good.
He was here to hit lefties. And that’s what he’s doing.
# Nick in SF April 25th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Jorge just marked his territory in the new tree farm.
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okay, vazquez has some runs to work with
lets see how he does
Kazmir was better off not riling up the yankees. Somebody’s upset
For the whiners still complaining about Thames, perhaps you can shut up now.
The guy crushes LH pitching.
wonderful….just wonderful job by Granderson there. Love it.
To no one’s surprise,
the Orioles pen may give the game up in under 15 seconds.
leadoff double, now on 3rd with 1 out and Youk up.
the only complaint is his defense
This is how you answer to a hit batter!
the ageless wonder strikes again
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Posada just tied Varitek in homeruns.
and Youk can’t get it done
Brett Gardner meet Curtis Granderson. Take notes.
Cervelli’s helmet looks sorta HUGE on this head.. kinda like a kid wearing an adult motorbike helmet.
All we need it for Cervelli to bring in the run and the line-up complainers will be 0-3 in the top of the 2nd.
ball is carrying well today..jorge answers back…granderson is very fast
“The guy crushes LH pitching.”
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SJ44,
yeah but who cares about what he’s done throughout his career.
He was dubbed a horrible signing because he struggled in spring training… and that’s all that matters.
Was that Pat M. that was being held back from climbing over the fence to charge Kazmir?
They are pitching around Cervelli!
great base running by Thames.
Darn!!! Too strong a ricochet.
# SJ44 April 25th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
For the whiners still complaining about Thames, perhaps you can shut up now.
The guy crushes LH pitching.
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I shut up several games ago.
have to get the run in from third
Maybe Thames needs a new helmet? Dude cannot keep it on his head.
@Doreen: I would opt for Dodger Stadium over Anaheim, all things being equal. I think it’s the oldest non-Fenway/Wrigley stadium left and it has a nice early-60′s feel to it. The biggest downside is that traffic can be pretty annoying getting in and out. But I think it’s a better experience than the Big A and beach balls are less annoying than rally sticks and thunder monkeys.
Very true BD. lol
big spot here for Jete
let’s get Kazmir out after 5 with a big lead and hammer that bullpen
Hustle….
good hustle jeter…thought for sure that was a dp
Nice slide by Cervelli. Jeter turned on the burners.
Good hustle by Jeter.
good hustle Jetes…..thats Granderson’s run…(well and Thames).
Captain DP strikes again!
Oh, wait. He beat it out!
Ortiz just bunted to 3rd with the shift on, 2 outs, and a man on 3rd
it rolled foul, fortunately
he’s finally willing to bunt there though
no excuses for vazquez now
“Detroit better hope they didn’t wear out that arm.”
It’s pretty remarkable how they were held up as the model for developing young pitching over this winter again and again. Often Porcello was the guy who was the contrast to how Joba was handled.
This past winter was too early to tell what was going to happen to porcello’s arm. It was always this season that would be the likely tell tale sign.
Kaz was it worth it?
and Ortiz K’s on some inside heat
In that inning, revenge was best served piping hot.
and Ortiz K’s on some inside heat
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He’s hitting .250 today. No?
That was two good at bats by Teixeira today. He’ll do something to help out with the offense, today.
CB,
You have to wonder about a guy like Cole Hamels too.
At least the Phillies won a World Series so it’s very hard to argue.
Detroit doesn’t have any good excuses…
What heady baseball by Thames!!!
Remarkable base running!!! to get back to 3rd and realize that would not have scored him!!!
WOOOOOO!!!!
@Nick in SF -
Thanks for the feedback. I was leaning that way, but they keep talking about what a beautiful park it is in Anaheim. And when you remind me about the rally monkey, well, then that just about seals the deal.
Remember when the Rays were killed for trading Kazmir?
Why is Matsui swinging at the first pitch?
“He’s hitting .250 today. No?”
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I will admit he looks a little better at the plate. He’s laying off some breaking pitches that he was swinging at earlier in the season.
And he’s likely guessing more to try to catch up to fastballs.
His avg has to rise soon but whether he can hit better than .200 for the season is a legit question.
Thames has done everything one could reasonably expect. He’s never going to be a good defensive player but he is really filling his role very well.
He was the last guy signed with a shot at the 25 man roster. He didn’t cost much – they are getting as much as they possibly could have hoped for.
Meanwhile Jaime Hoffman is hitting .254 with a .262 OBP in Albequerque AAA which is one of the most conducive environment to hitting in all of professional baseball.
Unfortunately, in this ballpark I can’t rest until the Yankees have a 6 run lead in the 7th inning or later.
The Yankees have no problem getting off to a good start in Anaheim games. It’s holding the lead that has been the issue.
# GreenBeret7 April 25th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
That was two good at bats by Teixeira today. He’ll do something to help out with the offense, today.
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:confused:
I thought he’s only had one PA today?
It’s pretty remarkable how they were held up as the model for developing young pitching over this winter again and again. Often Porcello was the guy who was the contrast to how Joba was handled.
This past winter was too early to tell what was going to happen to porcello’s arm. It was always this season that would be the likely tell tale sign.
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To be fair to the Tigers, they did a good job. He pitched 125 innings in the minors. The next season he only threw more than 100 pitches 4 times, and that was at the end of the season.
He went above his prior innings by 50, but for the most part he wasn’t throwing a ton of pitches.
I prefer that method to the Yankees.
You’d think someone that needs his fastball would actually throw it more often.
Yanks at Dodgers has to be the hottest tix this season.
Much like Yanks at SF was a few years back.
I will say this… i’m glad the sox didn’t go get a guy like Ty Wigginton instead of mighty Bill Hall to be a utility guy.
He’s quietly off to a terrific start.
Okajima has the worst ERA of his career against the Orioles, gave up the lead in the previous inning, and Francona sends him back out for the 8th inning? Is the Sox bullpen really that short?
though as I say that Bill Hall makes a potentially game-saving catch
Tex looked solid in the on-deck circle. Good swings.
Would this ump call some strikes?
vazquez is no different than the 2004 version that had an “injury” as an excuse
no fastball at all
and nibbles with the best of em
Kick his ass Cisco
vazquez stinks
Couldn’t Porcello’s start be because of more or better or both scouting reports on him? Last year he was new and fairly unfamiliar.
Let’s see how he adjusts going forward.
Did Vazquez always have such bad command?
Doreen-
I’d favor Dodger stadium. It’s got so much history and it’s a really nice spot to watch a ball game from. It’s sort of detached from downtown so it has this feeling like the whole area is dedicated to baseball.
That said whether you try to go see the dodgers or Angels really depends on where you are located. They really aren’t very close to each other in terms of driving time. And driving time is king in southern california.
If you’re staying in organge county I’d go see the Angels. If you’re in Los Angeles proper it’s probably easier to see the dodgers.
If for instance you’re staying on the west side of los angeles, getting out to Anaheim is extremely painful.
RS,
Okajima gave up a leadoff single and almost gave up a double to follow (diving catch by Hall)
The Sox just don’t have any other options. They have been using Papelbon every day lately so they likely want Bard to close today.
Ramirez has been terrible and they can’t trust Delcarmen yet. They just don’t have the arms.
i normally dont worry about players but Javy just isnt right…the velocity at 86 is a very big concern for me
Reading Hit Girl’s comments is like listening to a Milli Vanilli greatest hits album.
Repetitive.
“Did Vazquez always have such bad command?”
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nope
you don’t throw as many innings as he has if you do.
he just needs to figure it out… hopefully soon
Why isn’t Cervelli making Javy throw strikes?
Maybe he needs to take the shades off. Javy cannot see his magic eyes.
Note to self…
Discover equation to figure out exactly how pathetic one would have to be to spend a perfectly good weekend day trolling a blog.
just ignore the trolls, please! I’m begging you.
Man Javy got away with one there to Howie…that curve had a hit me stamp on it.
Rob,
lol. It’s tough when “her” Red Sox are life and death with the Orioles. “She” hangs out here.
“Why isn’t Cervelli making Javy throw strikes?”
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uh oh… not this debate again
do people still believe the catcher can “make” a pitcher throw the ball better?
CB -
We’d be staying in sight distance of the Angels. But, we wouldn’t mind driving. I know that’s nuts, but anything for history and ambience, right? Also we wouldn’t be seeing the Yankees, so I’d have no problem leaving even earlier than the locals usually do.
About Hoffman – Ok, Somebody or somebodies took a calculated risk and it didn’t work out. It happens, even with the best thought out decisions. That’s why Thames was signed, as insurance. Sometimes you have to use those insurance policies. Outside of losing Brian Bruney for nothing, nothing lost. And Bruney isn’t exactly lights out for Washington, either. (And I’m rooting for him.)
Jerkface-
I didn’t say they did a bad job. But on the whole the Tigers weren’t doing all of that to “develop” porcello. They were doing it because they were desperate for a starter.
Under the circumstances they did a good job.
At the same time I’d guess Porcello’s innings total from the minors is a bit misleading. He got a ton of quick outs in the minors. He didn’t strike many hitters out at all and didn’t walk anyone.
Those were very stress free innings he threw in the minors.
All I’m saying is that they did take a calculated risk and this past winter was too early to say that it “worked.” It may or may not have. It’s too early to know – but so far this season it doesn’t look great.
Scranton wins, 5-4; Here’s the game day box.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_swbaaa_1
Cervelli really is a good catcher. He just smothers the ball.
Washington Nationals are quietly 2 games over .500 and their closer, Matt Capps, leads the league in saves with 8.
I’m not sure how much longer they can keep winning 1 run games but it’s nice to see them off to a good start.
Former Yank Tyler Clippard has been an outstanding reliever for them as well.
“# Bronx Jeers April 25th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Yanks at Dodgers has to be the hottest tix this season.
Much like Yanks at SF was a few years back.
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I heard they didn’t even sell single tickets to that series, fans had to buy multiple game packages to have a chance to purchase Yanks-Dodgers series tickets
well javy fb picked up after i said i was concerned lol…and he is a good fielder
Nice job by Javy there…maybe some of Pettitte’s Houdinism is rubbing off…
Javy nice job to get out of it.
Why did Cervelli lift his glove there before setting up away? Napoli sneaking a peek back there?
Do we have an unwritten rule violation on our hands?
Javy made some quality pitches to Napoli in that AB.
Hopefully, something to build on.
Eduardo Nunez continues to kill at SWB and now it seems Russo and Curtis have joined the fiesta…..
Montero pressing a lil bit no doubt trying to impress. He’ll settle down soon and the bombs will come.
good stuff!
CB/Jerkface,
Have either of you seen enough of Porcello this year to tell if it looks like a tired arm… or could Doreen be right that hitters have seen enough of him and adjusted?
I suppose it’s probably both but with his stuff, you’d have to think there is something wrong.
He’s not just pitching poorly, he’s getting absolutely hammered.
NYYs will score 10 runs this inning and slowly pull away from the angels.
Tex is getting close
NOW Tex has had two good PAs.
“Javy made some quality pitches to Napoli in that AB.
Hopefully, something to build on.”
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I agree. I’m glad the Yanks got him a lead so he can just go after hitters.
When Javy does turn it around, this team is going to tough to beat every time out. Javy and Phil could end up (perhaps “should”) as the best 4/5 in baseball.
ahhhh tex just missed it
all tex has is 2 more outs
Of course Teixeira is starting to come around. It’s almost May.
I heard they didn’t even sell single tickets to that series, fans had to buy multiple game packages to have a chance to purchase Yanks-Dodgers series tickets
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I believe the Orioles do the same thing.
vazquez will not “turn it around” with an upper 80′s fastball
BD,
The 2 games I watched him pitch (vs the angels and vs the royals) his stuff was good. I don’t think his ‘arm’ is tired. He threw some insane fastballs with a ton of movement vs LAA. Just checking on fangraphs real quick, his pitches are all around the same speed or slightly faster.
It could just be an adjustment thing. I agree with CB that how they handled Porcello will come to a head this year, probably towards the end of the summer.
Doreen-
In that case if you can see a weekend day game at Dodger stadium it won’t be too bad.
If you are trying to see a weekday or even weekend night game what I’d do is to leave midday from where you’re staying and make an afternoon of it in downtown LA. Go see the Disney Concert hall (it’s goregeous), go see the cathedral, go visit little Tokyo, go to the museum, etc. Have dinner downtown and then head over to the ball park.
As long as you beat rush hour (which can start at 2pm on a weekday) and get into downtown you’ll be fine.
I don’t know if you are a music fan, but if you have the opportunity to go to the Diseny Concert hall for a performance try to do so. The building is just spectacular and the sound inside is beautiful.
Kazmir just throws slop now. Just not the same guy he was a couple years ago with Tampa.
So, at this rate, Kaz will be at 100 sometime in the 5th inning. And Scoscia does not have the same BP as in prior years. It will be interesting to see how far he pushes Kazmir in this game.
Though, this inning Kazmir seems to be going more to off speed, change up stuff.
End of 8th!
AJax is really off to a nice start….The K totals are hideous and at this pace he’d k 259 times over a full season…ouch!
However he’d also score 116runs hit 45 doubles 18 triples 9 homers and steal 30 bases all the while playing a GG caliber CF….can you say R.O.Y.?
Tyler Clippard is really really dealing right now….he’s been virtually unhittable out the ‘pen for the Nats and one of the main reasons why they have 10-11 wins…
good stuff!
champ809
I think Brian Matsuz or however you spell it will win ROY.
That second strike to Wood is the best fastball I’ve seen Javy throw this year. Stayed on top, ball was down and had a little sinking action. Maybe hes getting there.
BD-
I thought he looked ok when I watched him. He’s just giving up a lot of base hits. That happens with a ground ball pitcher however, especially over small samples.
I’m not worried about him per se – more something to look out for. It was always clear that it was this season that would be more indicative.
Cole Hamels is an interesting case. I think the work load really did hurt him. But more than that I think the league has adjusted to him and he doesn’t have a good answer back.
His breaking ball just isn’t very good.
when vazquez gets to an 0-2 count, does he ever do anything but waste a pitch low and away?
the always lovely kim jones…
Did Kim just say ‘Bo Jackson could hit this spot’?
boy brandon wood…
CB -
Thanks for those suggestions!
Matusz could def win it if he still qualifies….he made 10 or so starts last year for the O’s so I’m not sure if he still has rookie status.
I was out for awhile, so what happened with Kazmir? He hit Cano on purpose?
I said in ST that it was completely unfair to judge Thames, a veteran, on a few at bats in ST. He’s a professional hitter and, IMO, he deserved some time in the regular season to show what he could do. Now, I don’t think he should have PH for NJ yesterday, but that’s neither here nor there.
when Daniel Bard has the slider going and is locating it well, he is tough to hit…
just gotta hope that like many 100mph arms, he can’t sustain it for too many seasons.
Matusz is still a rookie.
Tampa Yanks lead 1-0 after one inning.
Adam Warren: 1 inning, 1 hit, o rins 1 walk, 3 strikeouts
Medchill with an RBI single
How many innings did Porcello throw last year and what was his max in the minors?
Is it true that the Angels passed on Doc Halladay because they wanted to hold onto Brandon Wood? That doesn’t look too good now.
Making decisions to pass on Halladay, Tex, CC, Lackey, Figgins – that’s a lot of talent to pass on. I know they’re in the AL West, but it doesn’t make their team any better.
I bet if he threw a change up he would k him
Adam Warren: 1 inning, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts
CB, I caught your ‘night falls on hoboken’ reference, very impressive. Are you a fan?
GB, you’re as reliable as a swiss watch, lol. Thanks!
“Is it true that the Angels passed on Doc Halladay because they wanted to hold onto Brandon Wood? That doesn’t look too good now.”
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Wood AND Aybar
They felt both were breakout candidates.
Nick-
I am indeed. Not as ardent a one as you are from what I can tell but they’ve been great and really consistently so.
Just something about Hoboken….
13 pitch battle and Javy wins it. Another confidence builder.
tough 13 pitch at bat that ends well for Vazques
Leiter said something interesting during the Phil/Angels game last week. He said that Wood was always very highly regarded and considered very talented, but there comes a point when a prospect is not a prospect anymore and has to perform. We discussed this at length one night, but it must be very hard to judge real prospects in the PCL given how the ball carries…..
I am indeed. Not as ardent a one as you are from what I can tell but they’ve been great and really consistently so.
Just something about Hoboken….
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When I went to college in Hoboken in the ’60s there was just something about the city and it wasn’t good…
crushed
I don’t think the Angels passed on Doc, but rather it was the Jays who weren’t enamored with the package.
One curveball too many.
a confidence builder to abreu
at least it was a solo…adds to the importance that he got the guy in front of him..
Just walk him next time Javy
Where is the change up?
all vazquez throws is slop
Still ahead 3-1 unless you can’t count. Solo homers don’t kill you.
Gotta love YES. Talking like this is an Angels broadcast. Almost, if not totally, hoping that Abreu would hit a HR there.
Solo homers won’t win this game…nice job coming back to get the next guy quickly.
haha, that Abreu blast was the highlight of Hit Girl’s day. How sad.
Got Hunter on the changeup.
abreu would look a lot better in RF for the yanks than swisher
no one gave up more bases empty HRs than Catfish Hunter, he always managed to work around them…
That third strike curve ball almost broke hunter’s back trying to get to it.
Vazquez is still out there right now trying to pitch in reverse. Hopefully it’s still an issue of him building up arm strength but he’s not effectively pitching off his fastball.
And in this game you can tell he’s concerned about throwing the Angels change ups per the scouting report.
Unless people didn’t expect Javy to give up another run this year, it’s not bad. AT this point, I’m just looking for progress.
# SJ44 April 25th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Got Hunter on the changeup.
Looked like a curve to me. 70 mph.
“Vazquez is still out there right now trying to pitch in reverse. Hopefully it’s still an issue of him building up arm strength but he’s not effectively pitching off his fastball.”
which is what he did in 04
he’s no different in 10
“Vazquez is still out there right now trying to pitch in reverse.”
agreed. He’s got a little better fastball today and I’d like to see him throw it more. Looks like guys are starting to sit offspeed a bit.
Go read Catcher in the Rye and plot an assassination already. Your true destiny is calling.
yanks bats are dead for the rest of the game
what are the odds vazquez holds the angels down
What I don’t get is why Javy is so far behind everyone else in terms of arm strength. He had the same amount of ST as everyone, so what’s up with him?
Javy does not look like a guy who trusts his fastball right now.
Almost the opposite of how Phil has looked so far.
(S)Hit Girl, have you looked at the standings yet?
# Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 25th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
What I don’t get is why Javy is so far behind everyone else in terms of arm strength. He had the same amount of ST as everyone, so what’s up with him?
Everyone is different.
Betsy – I think you’re right.
Seems like Abreu always hits Vazquez well, from the stats.
Looking for the silver lining, he had a nice comeback to K Torii Hunter. He really hasn’t done much in these two series vs the Yanks. Coupled with the problems he had in the field in YS, is his age (35) catching up to Hunter?
If that’s true, the Angels are suddenly depending on older players – Hunter, Abreu, and Matsui. That’s a lot of wishing and praying, if you ask me.
top of the 10th and now it’s an even playing field as Scott Atchison takes the mound for the sox.
He is an “Orioles caliber” reliever.
leadoff basehit for the O’s
Phil was lovin his heater the other night…for good reason.
Carl,
it was a changeup. His changeup has CB-like action.
This is not the team to throw changups to. They hit them better than anyone in baseball v
another week and granderson will be under .250
CB: I am a pretty ardent fan, but they reward loyalty. We got treated to vastly different set lists over the three nights in SF.
I’m going to see them next week in Big Sur at a benefit show for the Henry Miller Library, and I’m sure that will be worth the drive. They promise “a special performance designed specifically for the space” under the redwoods.
as above.
The O’s trying out an extra-inning heartbreak ?
blake-
Abreu was sitting breaking ball on that pitch. Javy Hung and Bobby didn’t miss. Abreu doesn’t hit many that hard and that far. He was on that pitch the entire way.
It was a solo so it’s not that bad but it wasn’t a good sign either.
Of course Hunter then proceeded to go went there swinging from his heels so that was strange…
Carl, of course, but it’s one thing to be getting hit, another for the FB to be several MPH below where it should be (unless he has a habit of getting off to bad starts, which maybe he does).
Joe, if I recall, the Jays wanted the Angels to include this pitcher – I forget his name, but he’s one of their top 5 prospects. Also, Doc would not have approved – he wanted to go to a team that trains in Florida. His first choice was the Phillies.
# SJ44 April 25th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Carl,
it was a changeup. His changeup has CB-like action.
This is not the team to throw changups to. They hit them better than anyone in baseball v
gotcha
Jim Johnson wiggles out of RISP situation. Atchinson promptly puts guys on 2nd & 3rd no outs.
Oddly, AJ threw some changeups and got Matsui to hit into a DP….
fastball at 87
Did you guys see that the Sox reacquired VanEvery so they could send Reddick down to develop more?
The Angels hit changeups well but that does not mean you cannot ever throw them. Can still work them in to keep hitters off balance once in a while especially in AJ’s case when his curve was not working.
It must feel good to throw FB like Phil did that night; there must be a sense of exhilaration almost when the ball comes out of your hands… Players seem to know right away when a pitcher is going to be tough. In one of the recaps of that game (from an A’s perspective), it mentioned that Chavez knew that Phil was going to be tough because the ball was jumping out of his hands.
LGY, that’s true – and Phil threw about 5 or 6 of them to the Angels. AJ hasn’t had a good curve all year, so he had to do something.
I was hoping for at least 3 home runs from Alex this weekend. Sucks that he had to face 2 pitchers he struggles against.
dp would be nice
Gameday showing that Torii struck out on a curveball. They’re not always correct, though. The writers might mention what kind of pitch it was.
To my very untrained eye it looked CB because of the north south movement.
Whatever it was, it made Torii look silly.
vazquez will be public enemy number one with yankee fans by midseason
Javy with 86MPH gas…. Lets hope he brings that up by June.
cb
On that HBP, did Javier have the proper mechanics?
Not loving Granderson against lefties. Why not have the red-hot GGBG in there instead?
I hope Alex gets it going soo, to be honest.
another confidence builder (lol) for javy
Gardner over Granderson? Granderson is a fantastic player and he’s off to a nice start against lefties. You do not sit him down against lefties until he proves he’s a complete zero against them…………..
Vazquez drives me crazy.. Is he a softball pitcher?
get acevas up, javy is dreadful
It looks to me like is shoulder is flying wide open…and he has barely any control over his 90 mph fastball.
Gotta get the bullpen up.
Can’t keep pitching backwards and stay in this game.
Get Ace ready. Javy isn’t long for this game.
“On that HBP, did Javier have the proper mechanics?”
No. He looks pretty bad out there on the mound today. He really doesn’t have much. He’s just keeps getting underneath the ball over and over and isn’t repeating his delivery.
This is just very strange.
Come on, find a way to throw strikes to Napoli. PLEASE!!
gotta love these “confidence builders”
Does wearing the Yankees jersey just make a pitcher lose mechanics, the same mechanics that allowed him to go 200 innings for 10 + years.
Javy has a 86-89MPH fastball today that he can’t locate, all he has is a slider and curve.
Gotta get Javy out of there or the Angels will blow this game open.
Javy’s pitching like a #5…..
maybe javy is injured and isnt saying anything…which would be very stupid
CR, are you implicity blaming Eiland?
every single swing and miss has come off of a curveball
his fastball is pathetic
THATS A STRIKE!
Hear Ye…Hear Ye,
The Javy Vazquez ERA watch is being suspended until further notice.
“Javy’s pitching like a #5…..”
hes pitching like a #12
Javy is pitching like a #5 in Scranton.
javy needs to get pulled, he got nothing
javy pitching like a guy who will get his a** booed out of yankee stadium
almost 80 pitches in the 4th… we’ll be lucky if he gets out of this inning.
Does Mitre exist?
BUST
Mechanics are out of whack and he’s afraid to throw his fastball.
If Joe doesn’t take him out now, this could get out of hand.
Unbelievable – Brandon Wood?
great defense
Gardner would have gotten that ball…
Ah marcus thames
Javy Mr. Bullpen Vazquez
Brandon Wood???
Where are all of the people who said that trading for Javy was a good idea?
This is really ugly.
another confidence builder for javy
how bout it sj?
Betsy
UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why try to start controversy????????????
Not that I know how to judge a pitching coach, but I think we actually have a decent one, who helped us out tremendously last year.
I just dont understand. Javy is doing the same stuff.
And Brandon Wood, his 3rd hit at home this season, 2nd against us. Against the Sox, he’ll be Brandon Dud.
No way would I bring Mitre in here. I guess I’d have to bring in Aceves…
Girardi looks frustrated
This guy needs to go back to the NL
I can’t stand Vazquez!! Period!… He just reminds me of another Yankee who couldn’t handle pitching here – Ed Whitson!.. 76 pitches and it only the 4th inning..
I don’t give a crap what Marcus Thames bats, this is why I don’t want him playing in left!
“Does Mitre exist?”
Yes but he hasn’t pitched in ages.
Gardner would have definitely gotten that. That was infuriating…
Vazquez is rubbish…
A sort of battingpractice pitcher
Thames in LF just cost them at least a run. Zero excuse not to catch that.
Make that at least two runs.
Cervelli is a very good defensive catcher and he is lauded as such.
But I have to say – he is exceedingly busy behind the plate.
That last pitch Javy threw was actually a strike over the inside corner. But the pitch did badly miss it’s spot.
Cervelli for whatever reason set up inside then shifted outside (as it was obvious he would) and then Javy wound up throwing the ball almost exactly to the spot where cervelli initially was.
Moving the target like that might help with Napoli a catcher up at bat but it’s distracting for both the pitcher and umpire.
Oh, man.
Ya gotta wonder if it’s worth having Thames in there. These balls always find him! He should have caught that.
Just hope Kazmir really has not settled in.
Thank God, a new pitcher.
yanks don’t win close games in anaheim
this one is over
and vazquez is a bust
Laura
I still think trading for Javy was a good idea. He has to turn this around at some point.
Put Vazquez in as long man and Mitre in the rotation.
No, I’m not serious, but I’m pretty angry right now.
One batter too late. Gotta pull a guy who can’t throw strikes and when he does, they get ripped.
Alfredo Aceves is apparently a figment of the imagination.
Useless umpire misses 2 pitches that have been strikes all game to walk the bases loaded, and then Thames botches what should have also been the 3rd out of the inning.
It is unbelievable how useless these umpires are. They have turned around this entire game for the Angels by squeezing Vazquez like no other. Major League Baseball needs to really clamp down on these guys and use QuestTec to punish ones who consistently squeeze pitchers in certain situations.
at least cashman won’t make the mistake of bringing back a softie again.
How the heck did this bum strike out so many guys in the NL….Mr Innings Eater..LOL
CR, I asked that because you asked if pitchers’ mechanics changed once they put on pinstripes; I took you literally.
Javy’s next start is at home and he’s going to be booed……..
a whole season of javy
this is going to be amusing, to say the least
At this point, we have to just hope that Javy remains a Type A free agent.
Cervelli for whatever reason set up inside then shifted outside (as it was obvious he would) and then Javy wound up throwing the ball almost exactly to the spot where cervelli initially was.
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Almost every catcher does this. Lets not use it as an excuse to knock Cervelli.
Should Thames have gotten that ball?
Not a good effort by Vazquez, but Thames play didn’t help either.
This ump is terrible he’s been squeezing javy all day.
And gardner catches that ball easily, Thames is horrible, he’s missed several easy plays this year
Like I said, you could see it coming.
Take him out now or he will give up 10 this inning.
Just an awful performance by Vazquez.
Stayed three hitters too late with and he flushed the lead away.
He’s now officially the first problem of the season.
May have to get Mitre or Ace ready to replace him in the rotation if this keeps up.
Javy REALLY sucks.
Oh Well, at least the Sox suck this year also.
Like I said, a 3-0 lead means nothing to me in this ballpark.
does anyone still think javy is throwing 200 innings easy this year? Has he made it into the 6th this year?
hit girl- don’t you have something better to do then be a troll on a yankee blog? says a lot about you.
Javy sucks all he does is nibble
Strange place to bring in Logan; the Yankees need inings – why not Aceves?
thames maybe should have gotten it, but it was hammered. javy is at fault here… not thames.
Laura -
I’m here. I still think Javy will turn it around.
As bad as Javy was today, if Thames catches that ball, the inning is very different. Problem is you can’t keep pitching into trouble against the Angels, because they will break through.
At least it’s still early in the game.
Nice play Jete!
That said, I would still take Javy Lopez 10 times out of 10 over Melky Cabrera.
Vazquez is garbage! Can we get a refund from Atlanta? And why isn’t Gardner in left…….
javy cant seem to get it going.. hurt alert?
Despite what Vazquez has done, the offense kept them in this game by losing their patience as soon as they took the lead. After throwing 41 pitches in the first two innings, they have made Kazmir throw 26 in the next two. You have to finish a guy off, and deviating from the approach and getting overaggressive with a lead could really come back to burn you later on.
and is mitre ever going to pitch?
This game seems to be in the 8th. But it’s only the 5th. Let’s go, bats.
Hmmmm…. If anybody would think Vazquez was cheating today, it would be me….
But I dont see it.
Aside from the ball 4 pitch to load the bases, not much today…..
Though I could be wrong, Alfonso Marquez umped a Red Sox game about a week or two ago, and tried gifting them the game, so that WOULD MAKE SENSE!
Thank goodness we’ll have 4+ innings to test that Angels bullpen again.
“I still think trading for Javy was a good idea. He has to turn this around at some point.”
That’s what people keep saying about Nick Johnson. I’m still waiting.
javy is DONE.
he’s afraid to pitch, it’s almost pathetic. no wait, it is…
he will be booed of the mound, then off the team, at YS.
and rightfully so!!
Jerkface-
Cervelli is much busier back there than most catchers.
Javy was horrible today and that has nothing to do with Cervelli.
But he is very busy behind the plate. It’s something he’ll learn to do less of as he matures. He does it too much at times.
On that pitch to Napoli he even had his glove unnaturally elevated as if he were trying to get Napoli to see where the glove was. No catcher was going to receive the pitch in that spot and it was obvious he was going to shift outside – especially given that Vazquez has no fastball today.
It’s too early to do that, but wow – what a mess our rotation and pen would be then. Phil would move up to the #4 (which is less than ideal to say the least) and Javy would be in the pen………as a long man?
“Wow. Quick hook on Vazquez.”
4 runs is no quick hook. Argh!
“Wow. Quick hook on Vazquez.”
4 runs is no quick hook. Argh!
I’m just so disappointed………that Terry from NH beat me to the punch with the Ed Whitson reference.
You also can not play Thames anymore in the OF>
Tough inning to watch. Now they need to score this inning!
“Strange place to bring in Logan; the Yankees need inings – why not Aceves?”
Wanted a lefty for Abreu. Probably holding on to Aceves for later.
I must say I was dead wrong about Vazquez, I though he would do a decent job but he is $hi++ing his pants back in New York.
I can’t even watch the days he pitches I usually just check the scores and lo and behold another flop from this Softie.
Javier doesn’t have half the guts of Andy Pettitte, I have 0 confidence in Vazquez and that was after giving him the benefit of the doubt when many were turning on him and have a disdain for him, Now I clearly see why.
That said, I would still take Javy Lopez 10 times out of 10 over Melky Cabrera.
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uhh year i think you mean javy vazquez and i dont see how you can say that with what we have gotten from javy so far.
i will never understand the love affair girardi has with thames…
Would it be a bad idea to work in Mitre as a starter and let Javy work out his problems from some bullpen outings ?
It was silly to compare Vazquez to other 4, 5 like
Wakefield, bucholtz, dice-K.
He’s not even as good as those.
How the heck did this bum strike out so many guys in the NL?.Mr Innings Eater..LOL
If you play the Mets, the Nationals, the Pirates, the Giants, the D-Backs, the Padres and facing pitchers regularly… there you have it…. lots of cheap strikeouts
Javy Vasquez was a mistake from day one last winter. What does Cashman expect? Javy comes from the minor league team the Atlanta Braves in an inferior league and expects the soft one to become “the best number four in the league”?
SJ, you always defend Cashdope, well this trade is what you would call stinking up the joint.
So Javy Vasquez was one of the top pitchers in the NL last year? Where is that pitcher? Is this the second coming of Jaret Wright?
Could we see Hughes moved up to number 4 and some more of Sergio Mitre?
Your starter should give you a chance to win everey time out, not a loss.
So predictable in this place. Every single year the first month is filled with people announcing how they were “right” about a certain acquisition being a complete waste and jumping on every single failure as proof of that (Nick Swisher 2009, anyone?). And then become overly invested in being right about it, to the point of ridiculousness. Its bizarre.
I want what is best for the team, and I’m willing to give some of the new guys time before deciding on whether they were a good acquisition or not.
If Thames makes that catch, the Angels only tie the game. Vazquez has bad luck always getting matched up with a lefty, because then Thames starts in LF instead of Gardner.
I really think Girardi should just give Vazquez the best OF defense regardless of who’s on the mound for the opponent. Gardner’s defense for a flyball pitcher is so much more important than Thames’ bat.
“Should Thames have gotten that ball?”
It was a fairly straightforward play. It was a play that any decent left fielder makes.
Thames is a limited player. He hits LH pitching well but he is a truly horrendous OF.
Vazquez just flat out stinks
nick johnson is different. he is only making 5.5, he contributes with walks, and we DID offer johnny 14 mil and he turned it down. Javy is making 11 mil and three players were traded for him.
Vazquez could not buy a strike on a pitch anywhere remotely near the location of that 2-1 pitch. Unbelievable.
nice 2 different strike zones.
*2-0 pitch
Gotta be frustating for Girardi.
The guy has no confidence in his fastball and is trying to pitch backwards in the AL. That ain’t gonna work.
Give him 3 more starts to get it together.
If he can’t, then you have no choice but to pull him from the rotation.
That 2-0 count to Swish was not a STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!
THIS SCUMBAG MARQUEZ!
If you guys are saying he’s squeezing us, he must be
Cervelli might move a lot, but when he catches the ball his glove stays statue still and he lets the ump get a good look.
The ump missed a couple of clear calls.
Javy doesn’t have his velocity yet but he’s going to have to pitch off his fastball anyway to be successful. He’s afraid to throw it, he’s getting behind, and hitters are sitting offspeed. He’s going to have to start believing in his fastball again, no matter the velocity, or this will continue.
That pitch would have been ball 4 if Vazquez were on the mound. What a joke.
again, thames maybe could have got that, however the ball was crushed. javy didnt help ti out.
Patrick,
Agree on the ump.
But Girardi wanted to give Gardner a day off. And Thames hits lefties well.
I don’t have a problem with that. And this really is on Javy.
Has Winn played LF?
Not a great off season for cashman. Johnson can’t hit and vazquez can’t pitch
Oh yeah, the Nick Johnson signing was not very good up to this point…..I would rather have had Matsui or Damon….he is a walking injury and seems afraid to swing the bat and is like that little league kid who just hope he gets a walk.
2 different strike zones!!!
I have been saying it for 10 years!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you. We didnt get cost a baserunner.
Umps cost us baserunners, runs. Gift Red Sox baserunners, runs
Javy is going to look like a child in YS at the next homestand. Better to trade him back to Atlanta for Arod Viscaino. Please!!!!!!
Were these morons booing Tex before he ran over the catcher?
Thames-Vazquez-Johnson – there’s a reason why they were former Yankees.
Tex is going to send a Tex message.
so javy is the #4 guy we would trust in the playoffs? HELL NO…. Hughes would be the 4th starter and i cant think of anyone who would disagree.
Laura, but Aceves can get a lefty out. I would save Logan for later in the game….Now we’ve just got Marte. Of course, if the game gets out of hand, it won’t matter.
SJ, then how does Javy regain his form in the pen? The repercussions of that move would be pretty serious.
All I keep telling myself is
ONLY 1 YEAR ON HIS CONTRACT
Then we can get him the heck out of New York, he is Gutless, and big mouth Ozzie Guillen was right on calling out Vazquez toughness, now I see why.
Vazquez is an absolute sissy on the mound. I regret that I argued with some Yankee fans who were booing this guy.
When the terrible Brandon Wood crushes a ball like that its definitely the pitchers fault. That was a moon pie, Javy should at least skip a start. At least everyone else is doing their job and the BP is fresh.
Calling the GM of the defending champs a dope says more about your stupidity than it does his trading skills.
Didn’t like Javy the first go around and either did the Yanks. Now he’s back for the second go around (along with Nick) and guess what he looks like the same guy. Lightning does strike twice. I just wish Joba could have lived up to the hype, then we wouldn’t have to have this back bencher out there every 5th game.
i felt bad for javy still being booed for 2004, but he is now going to be booed because of 2010.
How is this trade stinking up the joint? Melky is a 4th outfielder and Arodys has sucked so far in the sally league. Javier will be fine.
Thames got an awful jump and should have caught that ball. He should not be playing the field.
I hate to be negative, but I knew it wouldn’t be any different with Vazquez this time around. Let’s remember, his own manager (Ozzie Guillen) called him out. He was awful with the White Sox too. Hopefully this is the last time Cashman is fooled by NL-inflated stats.
He tried to feed us Kool-Aid about how Javy was hurt in 2004…blah, blah, blah. The truth is, even Mitre (coming off TJ surgery) pitched better last year.
As someone mentioned, lets at least hope he’ll stay a Type A Free agent.
As long as our other 4 starters are healthy, Javy won’t see one inning in the postseason. Thank God for that!
Thames looked like he was frozen when that ball was hit, like he wasn’t sure where to go. By the time he started moving in, it was nearly too late. He had to dive for a ball that should have been caught on his feet.
what a great offseason from cashman
“Cervelli might move a lot, but when he catches the ball his glove stays statue still and he lets the ump get a good look.”
I didn’t make any comment whatsoever about how he catches the ball. I was only commenting on how he sets up.
I even said this in the first line of my post:
“Cervelli is a very good defensive catcher and he is lauded as such.”
I guess calling him a very good defensive catcher isn’t enough. Ok. He’s the perfect defensive catcher.
He’s better than Johnny Bench and Josh Gibson.
What is it with Cervelli and Brett Gardner? I just don’t get how sensitive some fans are with these two guys.
NL pitchers also face the pitcher from the opposing team so there you go.
Man, Tex stinks in April. May can’t get here soon enough.
Orioles BP imploding as we speak!
tex is coming out of his mess too. everything he hits is hard now. they will start to find holes soon.
Javy needs to grow a pair and start attacking hitters, he looks like he is scared out there. So what if he only has a 86-89 MPH fastball use it. And Tex having no luck.
Tex is just missing pitches. He’s ready to break out (I hope, I hope).
Moving Phil up to the #4 would be the worst move they could make. Not only would the Yankees not be able to monitor his innings in a relatively smooth way (as happened to Joba last year), but that puts a lot more pressure on him to perform. Boy, I wouldn’t do that.
Andy#1 Hughes#2 CC#3 AJ#4 Javy #5 so far
Come on…Arod can’t leave this park without a HR in the series.
Mark looks like he is getting it back. But of course, hard hit ball like Brandon Dud, but it’s right at him.
The Orioles are blowing it. Can somebody use good luck to stop it.
ha orioles scored 3 in the 10th and are still in danger of losing. this is going to be a fun series this week.
sj,
i’m with you
i love these confidence builders
they are building so much confidence it’s scary!
Swinging like hes still throwing 97
Hard hit ball…right at him.
Why do we have to talk about a MAJOR LEAGUUE PITCHER believing in his fastball, I am already sick of Vazquez because he keeps doing the same nonsense every start.
I don’t care about his fastball or whatever other pitch, he looks like utter rubbish on the mound and I can’t even offer a defense any longer after trusting he would be half decent in New York.
The guy is a Chicken.
And here comes another choke job by the Baltimore bullpen. Just an awful, awful team. Hopefully, they’ll lie down like sheep for the Yankees this week.
Javy’s fastball is pathetic
Vazquez trade is a disaster.
who pulled the trigger?
“”"Calling the GM of the defending champs a dope says more about your stupidity than it does his trading skills.”"”
It figures you would lawyer me and not answer the question. A shill for Cash are ya?
CB, then I don’t think Thames can play in the OF anymore; it’s hurting the pitchers and, therefore, hurting the team.
Good gosh………..the Orioles are like the Bad News Bears……………
the other thing that vazquez is doing is taking the energy out of our team. how can anyone have confidence we will win on days he pitches?
I love Phil more than anyone, but he is not the #2, 3 or 4 pitcher on this team.
Theyre doing what they’ve gotta do.
Thames is even worse.
Let’s remember, his own manager (Ozzie Guillen) called him out.
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Who hasn’t Ozzie Guillen called out?
He hasn’t always been right about his callings outs either. FTR.
Thanks Orioles.
This also puts a ton of pressure of Javy to pitch well at the Stadium. And he doesn’t strike me as someone who does well under pressure.
Oh, how rich. Cla Meredith in to try and close this game out.
“Who hasn’t Ozzie Guillen called out?”
He needs to call out himself. IMO, he should have been fired years ago.
Omg, the Orioles bullpen is one of the worst I have ever seen. Those relievers should be paying the organization for giving them the opportunity to wear a big league uniform.
“I hate to be negative, but…”
You lost me right there.
“# tex’s friend April 25th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
i felt bad for javy still being booed for 2004, but he is now going to be booed because of 2010.”
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Bingo, I could care less about 2004 but I know what he is doing now and it is STINK.
Javy is a chump of the highest order. Pure wuss.
Mr. Softie is appropriate for him.
Tex’s friend, Phil has thrown exactly 2 games. He could go out there on Tuesday and get lit up..and get lit up after that. Let’s make the post-season, first, and second, let’s see how he’s pitching before we determine if he’s even in the rotation.
give me a break on blaming thames. had he not missed that one, javy would have found another way to blow it next inning.
sj and greenberet both said it was an excellent trade, so it must be true
that was a real confidence builder of an inning
I can’t believe Cashman would trade a bag of chips to Chicago for Nick Swisher, a guy that Ozzie Guillen “called out.”
What I wonder is this: Are there any players that Ozzie HASN’T called out?
“”"”so javy is the #4 guy we would trust in the playoffs? HELL NO…. Hughes would be the 4th starter and i cant think of anyone who would disagree.”"”
Heck No!!! Javy should be used in the bullpen for mop up duty. Oh that’s right, he is another great Atlanta Brave pitcher in the mold of Jaret Wright. Yes, Cash did his homework lol.
Gary, the Yankees loved Javy the first time around…………
I am pretty sure BAL will play better when they face Yanks
Is it just me, or does Torii Hunter lool lost at the plate? And not just this game. He’s just not having a good season, at bat or in the field. Strange to see from a player of his caliber, at least in years past.
So far, Logan has seemed like a good pick up.
and the yanks will go into baltimore and lose 2 out of 3
What is it with Cervelli and Brett Gardner? I just don’t get how sensitive some fans are with these two guys.
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You’re implying that the yankees are losing strikes to Cervelli moving, if they are losing strikes to the umpire then that is bad umpiring. If Javy is throwing to where Cervelli sets up, instead of what the SIGNS are telling him, then that is on javy.
And if it is really a problem, then maybe JAvy should bring it up.
“I love Phil more than anyone, but he is not the #2, 3 or 4 pitcher on this team.”
No he’s not. You plan for things but not all the time they go accordingly. Joba was moved up to 4 too last year when Wang got hurt.
“I am pretty sure BAL will play better when they face Yanks”
They always do. They lay down for BOS, but get geared up to play us. Happens every season.
You have a good eye for Analysis, CB, but I just think that this is a time when you are over analyzing something.
That pitch Logan just threw Hunter is one of the best and most valuable pitches a left handed pitcher can throw.
That was a terrific back heel slider. That is one of those pitches that allows left handed pitchers to consistently get out right handed hitters.
Logan comes kind of 3/4 so you’d think he’d have trouble with RH hitters. But if he can throw that back heel slider like that he’ll be more than a LOOGY.
Should DA Mitre to keep logan and park. Or call up Melancon. Either way, Mitre should go.
wait… after years of picking on posada, not you are picking on cervelli’s catching?
I don’t care about his fastball or whatever other pitch, he looks like utter rubbish on the mound and I can’t even offer a defense any longer after trusting he would be half decent in New York.
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You’ve given him all of 4 starts to decide you can’t offer a defense for him? Good thing his position on the team doesn’t rely on needing your defense, I guess.
I seriously don’t get this. At times he hasn’t looked good, I’ll grant you that – but rubbish seems like a bit of an extreme description. More like he needs to make adjustments he hasn’t made yet. There’s nothing to say that he won’t make those adjustments given time.
Laura -
“Still” waiting? It’s April. Let’s revisit both those players in 2-3 weeks.
Patience.
It’s a very long season.
stop defending vazquez. He’s a gutless chicken
Thames took a good route to that ball, even with the pit stop.
we may need mitre to replace javy soon.
“”"”sj and greenberet both said it was an excellent trade, so it must be true
that was a real confidence builder of an inning”"”"”"”"
The beauty of those two clowns is that they never admit they are wrong. They always lawyer us with their slick, know it all answers.
Can we please get Kazmir’s pitch count up, so we can get Thames out of the outfield.
Thames should have caught that ball, but that doesn’t change the fact that it shouldn’t have been hit that hard. That was a bad pitch to a guy who shouldn’t be a threat.
Trevor, if they have to remove Javy (god, I hope not), then Aceves has to be the #4. Phil on his best is a much better pitcher, but Aceves is polished; Phil has some growing to do and it would be a horre ndous mistake to push him .
holy crap baltimore won
Trenton bullpen came apart at the seams. Trenton lost 9-5.
Romine had 2 doubles and an RBI, Laird had 2 hit with a double and 2 RBI.
Bleich was decent. 5 innings, 4 hits, 2 runs (earned) 2 walks, 2 strikeouts.
Here’s the box score.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_treaax_1
can’t DFA mitre. he is the ace of the joe girardi man-boy love all-stars.
THHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ORIOLES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Ozzie ever call out Swisher? I’m pretty sure they just didn’t see eye-to-eye. And yeah, Ozzie calls out a lot of people, but you’d have to be a fool to not agree with him in regards to Javy.
You know that taste you get when you have a lump of sunflower seeds in your mouth and you chew on a burnt one? I get that same nasty taste in my mouth when I see Javy on the mound.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theyve SHOCKED THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ORIOLES are the 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O’s finally beat the Red Sox.
I’m pretty sure tex’s friends was talking clubhouse leaderboard as far as how the pitchers have pitched this season.
Nothing more.
Like it !
LOL Red Sox suck!! Losing to Baltimore is pretty pathetic…
“It’s a very long season.”
I know, Doreen. My judgement is being affected by the fact that he was brought in to replace Matsui, who I wanted to keep. Johnson could hit .300 and I think I’ll still have a problem with him.
And the HP umpire didnt cheat Cla Meredith…..HOW SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 fair strikes to Scutaro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to start stretching out Mitre.
he’s only pitched once this year, two weeks ago.
The ball is really carrying today. Aceves is a fly ball pitcher and hasn’t thrown much. I hope he’s sharp today.
it’s one thing to wait for NJ. he is still walking and he is 1 of 9.
javy is giving the team very little chance to win. and dont say, we are still in the game. we are in the game because girardi took him out.
The Orioles winning against the S*x is just like
the Cubs winning the World Series.
Shatner…………..managing genius, pulling all the right strings!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now we just need the Rays to lose also.
Now I can turn my excitement into anger….
AROD, Teixeira and Jeter all had well hit balls….and all were right to people!!!!!!!!!!!
Ledger_Yankees Being mad because Vazquez had a bad start, I get that. Fans should be mad. Saying that he’s worthless after 4 starts? Hella weak.
“# tex’s friend April 25th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
give me a break on blaming thames. had he not missed that one, javy would have found another way to blow it next inning.”
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So true, this is all on Vazquez. I wasn’t one of his critics but the longer he looks like a Cream Puff on the mound, the more I realize this guy is a scaredy cat.
The moment Vazquez started talking in the media about velocity, arm strength, how he didn’t pitch in Winterball, etc, etc, the picture was clear, not to mention his moaning about the fans booing him.
I wonder why they boo you Javy. I was supporting you and might start since you don’t seem to be getting any better.
When in trouble the guy just melts
Taking a stab here : Romine may be the next starting catcher for Yanks !
Good defensively and can hit.
tampa won 6-0
For the Tampa yanks, Warren’s still holdong a 1-0 lead. 5 innings, 5 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts. 4 ground balls, 1 fly out.
M, I realized that after I posted, but I wouldn’t have put Phil as #2 anyway.
“You know that taste you get when you have a lump of sunflower seeds in your mouth and you chew on a burnt one? I get that same nasty taste in my mouth when I see Javy on the mound.”
Some of that is left over nausea from 2004. I said this when the trade went through – fans are going to have a hard time forgetting 2004. I’m sorry, but that is just something that sticks with you. We could win the next 5 World Series and I’ll still be upset over 2004.
Im surprised William Shatner didnt put in Matt Albers to try and blow the game…
He leaves their closer in after getting 5 outs in the 8th and 9th.
What a stinkweasel Shatner is.
Now we don’t have the pressure of having to sweep the Orioles. Two out of three is acceptable.
Javy’s average fastball right now is 88 mph, it was 91 every other season except his first. He is either injured or very off mechanically. His average in 09 was 90 and his average in 08 was 91.
He has lost between 2 or 3 mph off his fastball.
Can’t be !
I wouldn’t mind scoring more than 3 runs today…..
LOL at the trolls here today.
Tell ya what, I’d trust Cash’s evaluations over yours anytime.
If that makes me a shill, I don’t mind.
Beats being a moron like you.
“”"”"”"Did Ozzie ever call out Swisher? I’m pretty sure they just didn’t see eye-to-eye. And yeah, Ozzie calls out a lot of people, but you’d have to be a fool to not agree with him in regards to Javy.
You know that taste you get when you have a lump of sunflower seeds in your mouth and you chew on a burnt one? I get that same nasty taste in my mouth when I see Javy on the mound.”"”"”"”
He can be the mop up pitcher.
The worst thing Vazquez did all day was walk Juan Rivera and hit him also!!!!!!!!
Jerkface, how long does it take to fix mechanics? I would be pretty angry if he’s hurt and not telling anyone………
Agree with SJ here. Give Javy 3 more starts, then DL him for a tired arm, so he can rehab and try to gain arm strength. Javy was complaining about a dead arm coming out of ST, and its obvious in his inability to trust his fastball. That’s not going to work in the AL, especially the AL East.
“Im surprised William Shatner didnt put in Matt Albers to try and blow the game…”
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that’s pretty funny
Hate Umpires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hate Referees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hate Boston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love Underdogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Im surprised William Shatner didnt put in Matt Albers to try and blow the game…”
While I agree that the manager for BAL looks like Shatner, I’m a huge Trekkie so I’d appreciate it if you would stop insulting Mr. Shatner.
Vazquez is a completely different pitcher when he’s able to throw his fastball consistently at 90-92.
That’s his fundamental problem right now. His fastball just doesn’t have any life on it – and Javy knows it.
He’s out there without that fastball and it’s forcing him to try to throw in reverse which you absolutely cannot do in the AL.
Javy has said that his arm is behind where it was this time last year as last year he got ready earlier to pitch in the WBC.
I wonder if pitching in the WBC and then racking up all those innings in Atlanta made him back off his conditioning this winter.
I don’t know. His arm looks like it’s still in spring training shape.
He prepared early for the WBC and then went on to have the best year of his career last year. Not sure why he wouldn’t prepare the same way this off season, unless it was just too much stress on his arm.
I agree, Laura. Especially being a high school student in Maine at the time, I took a lot of crap for that loss.
And for all of those breakdowns that series, when I think of 2004 (and yes, I know Torre put Javy in a bad situation), the image of Damon crushing a meat-fastball for a grand slam sticks out more than anything.
Someone says “2004,” and that image plays in my mind.
Melkman is in Hotlanta April 25th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
“”””sj and greenberet both said it was an excellent trade, so it must be true
that was a real confidence builder of an inning””””””””
The beauty of those two clowns is that they never admit they are wrong.
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How dare you call SJ a clown! That’s an insult to all clowns.
Saying Thames should have caught that ball is in no way excusing Vazquez for his poor start. Thames made a horrible play in the field that cost the Yankees at least two runs. If he had played it properly, it was shallow enough and hit hard enough that he might have been able to keep the run from 3rd from scoring. Even if he couldn’t, and Vazquez was able to get the next guy out, then it would have been just 1 run. 0 runs if he is able to keep the runner on 3rd.
Good defense might have bailed out poor pitching.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Javy hit the DL after this game. There’s just something that isn’t right with him.
got to like this trade, actually:
melky + vizcaino for boone logan + a player to be named to soon…
It’s real simple folks:
The Yanks must at some point trade Vasquez back to the N.L. for at least a pair of relievers
including one who could go right into the Yankees bullpen and move Joba back to the rotation and leave him there. Joba > this gutless turd who couldn’t hack it the first time around as a Yankee. I have full confidence that everyone in the bullpen after Mo save Mitre could handle the 8th inning by committee. Joba isn’t the end-all be-all 8th inning solution.
The Yanks must also seriously consider trading or releasing Thames, making Posada the DH,
Cervelli the starting catcher, and Johnson the $6M (including $250K buyout) backup 1B, because it is clear to see that Cervelli is a better catcher than Posada and a better hitter than Johnson, and that Gardner/Granderson/Swisher at the #2 > Johnson. I’ll take Cervelli’s defense, him hitting .260 with a .34X OBP I think he’s capable of and a Gardner/Granderson/Swisher rotating #2 hitter over Johnson taking up space at DH.
Thames is dreadful in LF as today is the second time he cost the Yanks two runs with his limited range, the other time his start in Boston. He is unfit to play LF. Time to give Winn some at-bats.
The problem with the Yankees is their g.m. Brian Cashman who can’t develop enough talent to acquire a reliever who could once and for all put Joba in the rotation permanently. This has led to the unnecessary and now costly, horribe trade for Vasquez, because this team is better with Melky as the RF, Swisher not Johnson at DH, and Joba in the rotation.
“# Angel – In an Empire State of Mind April 25th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I don’t care about his fastball or whatever other pitch, he looks like utter rubbish on the mound and I can’t even offer a defense any longer after trusting he would be half decent in New York.
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You’ve given him all of 4 starts to decide you can’t offer a defense for him? Good thing his position on the team doesn’t rely on needing your defense, I guess.
I seriously don’t get this. At times he hasn’t looked good, I’ll grant you that – but rubbish seems like a bit of an extreme description. More like he needs to make adjustments he hasn’t made yet. There’s nothing to say that he won’t make those adjustments given time.”
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You have to understand I’m doubly mad because I have argued with fellow Yankee fans about Vazquez but this guy just seems scared of pitching back in New York.
Whenever he gets in trouble he throws Meatballs right over the plate that gets hammered.
After seeing guys like Pettitte, Sabathia, Burnett who bear down more often than not, watching Javy makes me sick.
He just cannot be trusted to come up big. You’re right its early but I worry if we need this guy in say the Playoffs.
Vazquez was given my benefit of the doubt and its being abused with his dreadful starts.
And I mean his average in APRIL was 90 and 91, his average for the year was 91 in all seasons but 2002.
William Shatner is managing the Orioles?
“They’re dead, Jim.”
Kazmir is nothing special anymore
Cano!
Laura
I deeply apologize! I should not insult undeserving people like that.
GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also… Brad Penny is unhittable in the NL….
Dang! Robbie again!
Too bad nobody was on base.
If Robbie can keep this up all year, he’s got a shot at MVP.
eat it kazmir, come on offense
Robbie Cano!!
Hey, if the Orioles can blow a lead against the Red Sox and then win in extra innings at Fenway Park, then the Yankees can do the same against the Angels (minus the extra innings part).
Further payback by Cano.
Anger management is good, both on the blog and at the ballpark.
Let it fly!
I’m totally ambivalent on Javy. I’ve got zero feelings about him. I think he can work things out. Not sure about the best way to do it, but he’s not some rookie you can just send down. Another outing or two like today, though, and something will need to be done. A “DL” stint or work out of the bullpen. The other starters are humming, so we can live with this. But how long should we have to?
Robi Cano! He’s owned Kazmir lately, no?
Nice camera work by the YES crew, focusing on the Gone sign in the JetBlue ad.
Also a nice, long shot by Robbie. Wonder what Kazmir will do next time they meet?
Well CB, how long should the Yanks wait for his arm to come around?
Cano is a baaaaaaaad man…..
“Jim, Im a doctor, not a manager”
I thought Javy had asked to start his off-season workouts earlier this year – in fact, I’m sure he did. Maybe he started them too early.
Tampa yanks pick up another run. Jack Rye is finally starting to hit has an RBI single. He’s at .346.
CB,
Vazquez had a worse average fastball last year than 08, I don’t think he can blame a lack of preparation on this start. Unless he actually prepared less.
cano owns kazmir.
“”"”"Tell ya what, I’d trust Cash’s evaluations over yours anytime.
If that makes me a shill, I don’t mind.
Beats being a moron like you.”"”"”"”"
Well we would never assume you had the ability to think independently.
Pitchers’ are going to learn at some point that you cannot make mistakes to Cano this year. He is going to destroy them.
His pull swing has been so good this year. He’s getting more backspin on the ball than we’ve seen him get before. It’s a picture perfect swing.
It’s just amazing how hard he can hit the ball given how free and easy his swing is.
Cano hit an absolute rocket
kaz done. put gardner in now.
So the 4 innings of the Angels bullpen I predicted could be as little as 3 2/3 innings.
I regret the error.
On the plus side for Red Sox fans: they have a five game lead on Baltimore.
Take that, Orioles!!!
We know you don’t think at all.
Thames is not a horrible defensive player. Damon was no better in the field for sure.
well javy is on his way to ending the year nowhere close to 200 innings.
I actually thought Javys fastball looked slightly better today..the problem was that he didn’t throw many and was getting behind with slop.
Is this a pitching change for Thames? haha.
but i guess his era is lower than wang’s in april last year.
We got a treat with fairness from Balkin Bob Davidson yesterday, and then get cheated Marquez!!!!!!
Hate Umpires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep defending Javy, it looks good on you lololololol.
Melkman = Red Sox fan
Javier WILL TURN IT AROUND!!!
Thames is not a horrible defensive player. Damon was no better in the field for sure.
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Untrue, thames is in fact horrible. Damon looked bad but he got to balls usually and Damon’s ‘badness’ really only manifested itself last season.
Cashman better get friends… Javier Vazquez- HIS INABILITY TO PITCH IN THE AL, Marcus Thames and his RUBEN SIERRA like defense.. and Nick “DL” Johnson the h ell out of here right now… SERIOUSLY, what Yankee fan in their right mind would acquire these players if they had control of the Yankees?
CASHMAN LOSSED HIS MARBLES IN THE OFF-SEASON and these players are going to cost the Yankees the championship.
let’s hope javy’s not hiding an injury again
Jerkface-
That’s what Javy himself said. He changed how he prepared for the season and that his arm is behind where is was last year.
Why that is I can’t say for certain – but Javy cited his work with the WBC as the reason.
He may be wrong about himself or might not be letting on publicly but that’s what he’s said. And it’s plausible to think that may be the case.
$10 says javy ends up on the DL within 2 weeks with shoulder issues.
# Northy April 25th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Also… Brad Penny is unhittable in the NL….
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NL pitching stats are such a joke. Penny’s ERA is 1.05.
“# JoeMimic April 25th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Javy hit the DL after this game. There’s just something that isn’t right with him.”
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Its looking more and more like he is auditioning for the 2010 role of Chien-Ming Wang last season.
I mean this is hideous from Vazquez that I can no longer defend him by just saying its 1 game.
His starts are becoming pretty much the same, blowing up in innings and doing his best to take the team out of the game.
Watching Andy yesterday and Vazquez today makes me appreciate Andy even more if that was possible after Andy’s playoffs last season.
Some guys have the cojones and some don’t. Javier doesn’t.
I don’t know if I’d even give him three more starts at this point. If his arm is this dead then it might be best for all parties if he just gets shelved for 15 days right now. Three more disastrous starts would kill his confidence to the point where even once he feels healthy I’m not sure he’d be mentally ready to pitch.
Also, calling a trade stupid after FOUR STARTS is so incomprehensibly stupid that it defies even basic knowledge of baseball. Melky stinks and Vizcaino is hardly tearing things up in the Sally League so its not as if this trade has had terrible implications on the other end.
Joba and Hughes both should have been in the rotation to begin with and Cashman’s lack of confidence in them (and memories of 2008) are what fueled him to make the Vazquez deal. With Hughes looking like a number 2 already and Joba not appearing to make any progress in the bullpen (he also looks much more like a starter at this point) that decision appears to be foolish. But the trade itself was perfectly reasonable.
Robbie!
According to Gameday, both balls to Gardner could very well have been called strikes.
The umpires is inconsistant, yes, but I wouldn’t say he’s biased.
“CASHMAN LOSSED HIS MARBLES IN THE OFF-SEASON and these players are going to cost the Yankees the championship.”
Step away from the ledge. It’s too early for such a prediction.
when is the last time granderson got a base hit?
Wow Look at the hustle from Juan Rivera!!!
He didnt hustle to catch that game winning hit by the Red Sox last year at Fenway Field, after Nick Green was gifted the game tying walk!!!
Why is that, Juan??????
Imagine if the Yanks didn’t trade for Vasquez. They would GASP! be like they were in 2009!!!
Assuming the Yanks kept Cabrera, still signed Johnson, Winn, and Park, and passed on Thames:
Starting Nine/Batting Order:
Jeter/Gardner/Teixiera/Rodriguez/Cano/Posada/Granderson/Swisher DH/Cabrera RF
Options to start Johnson at DH and Swisher in RF if Cabrera struggles,
Cabrera in LF or Swisher in RF if Gardner struggles.
Bench: Cervelli/Johnson/Pena/Winn
Rotation: Sabathia/Burnett/Pettitte/Chamberlain/Hughes
Bullpen: Mo/Robertson/Aceves/Marte/Mitre/Park/whichever lefty got traded to Atlanta (Dunn?)
Yeah, that 25-man roster really SUCKS man!
granderson can’t hit
Come Tuesday night the Star Trek jokes may be out of control.
“A one year mission..to lose more games than anyone ever before.”
Rob B,
Are you watching the game on tv? They were balls. In fact, some umps would’ve called the first pitch a ball (for non-Yankee teams. haha )
Vazquez’s ERA is now 9.00 in 20 innings.
He’s turning out to be this year’s John Smoltz and Brad Penny.
A lot of people picked SEA to be a real challenger to LAA. That hasn’t happened yet. They just got swept by CWS, who was stinking up the joint recently.
“I want what is best for the team, and I’m willing to give some of the new guys time before deciding on whether they were a good acquisition or not.”
Someone with common sense on the blog ….hard to believe. I’m with Angel. I remember people wanting to trade Cano because of a lack of patience with him..how’s that working out now?? One thing Yankee fans aren’t known for …patience. Only thing worse than impatient Yankee fans are fans of other teams who come on blogs to annoy…I call those people pitiful.
As Yogi says “It ain’t over till it’s over”
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
“m April 25th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
“The other starters are humming, so we can live with this. But how long should we have to?”
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Fully agree, Vazquez has been the one rotten egg by a huge margin. I trust everyone else on this staff on any given night, but Vazquez I don’t.
Think about it if the Yankees don’t come back today, they will have 5 losses and Vazquez has 3 of them. Do the math folks. He is the 1 sore thumb sticking out. All of our other pitchers are throwing well.
I do know Javy asked to get on the mound earlier in ST than the Yankees intended him to (just a few days early, but still)…… The WBC was only one year. What did Javy do for the previous years? That’s what we’d have to look at. How did he prepare previous to last year?
PittYankee
PENS WIN!!!!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!! What a comeback, the leadership!!! With Crosbylicious struggling, too!!
# tex’s friend April 25th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
when is the last time granderson got a base hit?
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1st game of the Oakland series.
4 game hitless streak; 5 if he doesn’t get a hit in this one. Not good, but nothing to get too upset about yet.
‘LOSSED’
Now there’s a head-scratcher.
Home-schooled much?
We will always have Javy for interleague play!
Hughes has to prove he can pitch well against quality teams, consistently.
Ok, so we have to deal with the reality of the situation.
SJ/CB, if Javy is removed (just make something up and send him down), then do you insert Aceves as the #4 starter? I assume you agree that Phil can not be the #4.
“We will always have Javy for interleague play!”
good thought!
Hey blowhard SJ44 u still want Cano traded? Any other great thoughts u care to share now genius??
Laura -
I wanted Matsui to stay, too.
Melky may return to the Yanks.
with his .143 average, I’m sure it won’t be long before he’s DFAed.
im not upset about granderson i was just trying to figure it out. im saving my anger for vazquez.
Chamberlain in the rotation might look as Javy does now. No guarantee of quality there.
Is Javy watching Aceves right now? They basically have the same stuff/velocity, however, Aceves is a MUCH better pitcher. At least he isn’t afraid to go after people. You have to applaud him for that.
It’s the hit by Brandon Dud that is the difference right now.
hey if melky is DFA’d i think we should definitely get him back. He would be an upgrade over winn. (nothing against winn but he looks overmatched by fastballs now)
Rough day for Javy. I don’t envy him during his next start at the Stadium.
joba is fine in the pen but aceves could have been a good 4th starter.
Joba is not being inserted into the rotation; he’s in the pen this year for good.
“”"Cashman better get friends… Javier Vazquez- HIS INABILITY TO PITCH IN THE AL, Marcus Thames and his RUBEN SIERRA like defense.. and Nick “DL” Johnson the h ell out of here right now… SERIOUSLY, what Yankee fan in their right mind would acquire these players if they had control of the Yankees?
CASHMAN LOSSED HIS MARBLES IN THE OFF-SEASON and these players are going to cost the Yankees the championship.”"”"
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully, Javy will shut up the idiot fans who boo him next time out.
And turn the jeers into cheers!
Is Javy watching Aceves right now? They basically have the same stuff/velocity, however, Aceves is a MUCH better pitcher. At least he isn’t afraid to go after people. You have to applaud him for that.
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Having the same velocity on a fastball doesn’t = the same fastball. Aceves could hide it better, it could have more / less movement. Also Aceves has pretty much thrown a 91 mph fastball and an 87-89 cutter that inning.
Javy was throwing 88, with some 90s
No offense to SJ44 (he is sane and usually has fair opinions), but I find myself chuckling when I see other people asking him questions about the team as if he is Girardi or Cashman…LOL
cr9 i sure hope so.
why why
“I assume you agree that Phil can not be the #4.”
People keep asking about this but it’s a completely irrelevant issue. There is no such thing functionally as a #4 starter.
It just happens to be how you line up the rotation to start the year. Otherwise it’s not that big of a deal on a practical basis.
The whole idea of a #4, #1 starter is more an issue about the quality of the rotation and how many innings you can expect from different slots.
If Vazquez get removed from the rotation nothing different would happen to Phil Hughes or any other pitcher.
They’ll just insert Mitre or Aceves into the rotation.
Trade Vazquez back to the AL and put Joba back in the rotation
at least we only have 1 series in anaheim this year.
Wow, this place went south real quick. A lot of names here of people who I never see post during the wins.
If Melky is DFA’d, I doubt the Yankees go after him. They probably attribute Cano’s hot start to Melky being gone.
Just not much late inning magic for us this year.
if javy is not at full strength as he claims, he should be send down until he is. Come back up when you feel that you are at full strength and useful to our team.
“# CR9 April 25th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Hopefully, Javy will shut up the idiot fans who boo him next time out.”
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From the looks of his outings I think we would all welcome that, please, I’m begging him to, would love nothing less.
I am a Javy supporter who has been waiting but he is making me look stupid for defending him when he was acquired and some fans didn’t want him anywhere back in New York.
Swung at ball 5
i doubt the yankees believe melky leaving is why cano is starting the season on such a tear.
G. Hobbs,
If I recall correctly, the late inning magic didn’t get started right away last year, either. Again, a lot of really quick sweeping judgment statements being made for the, what, 16th game of the year?
“at least we only have 1 series in anaheim this year.”
The Angels are nothing special this year.
“Wow, this place went south real quick. A lot of names here of people who I never see post during the wins.”
Very true. There seem to be a number of yankee fans that are deriving pleasure from the difficulties that players acquired in the off season are having.
It’s as if they believe they perceive themselves to be locked in some grand metaphysical challenge of “I told you so…” with Cashman and can smirk when the team does badly.
It’s just strange.
yanks have given up
yanks offense hitwise is also looking like the getaway day in oakland, like they are ready to go beat the orioles down.
This is a must win game. I mean, how will we, as Yankee fans, go on if the Yankees drop their first series of the year and only go 3-3 on a West Coast swing in April, a month in which they traditionally struggle?
CB, last year Joba was in essence the #4 and I know Cash/Joe/whomever said that that made it harder for them to monitor his innings. That’s why Ace has to pitch ahead of Phil – it has nothing to do with who’s better. You can skip starts, etc… with the #5 that you can’t do with the #4.
tex’s friend April 25th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
at least we only have 1 series in anaheim this year.
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Only 1? That sucks for Alex
“”"”"Think about it if the Yankees don’t come back today, they will have 5 losses and Vazquez has 3 of them. Do the math folks. He is the 1 sore thumb sticking out. All of our other pitchers are throwing well.”"”"”
It’s unreal that SJ doesn’t acknowledge that Cashman made a few mistakes this offseason. The Pond’s Cold cream must be reaching toxic systemic levels. Poor old chap.
told ya earlier that they do not win close games in anaheim
and without damon, matsui and even melky (who did have some big hits), they won’t have late game herioics
big voice for a little kid.
not bad
Who says the late inning magic is gone? It’s not – the Yankees have come back several times this year. The reason they had so many comebacks last year is because they got behind a lot – maybe they won’t have so many this year because they’ll be playing from ahead most of the time.
That said, they haven’t hit on all cylinders this year at all, just in individual games.
Swisher hitting 2? Good thing we didn’t bring back Damon to DH
Vasquez is a National League pitcher. I dont know why anyone is surprised that he is struggling again in the better of the two Leagues.
Rob relax how the heck can you call this a must game win? In April? When you have the best record in the Majors? Going 3-3 on the West Coast is bad ?? Geez some Yankee fans are so spoiled its ridiculous.
Only a real jerk Yankees fan or fan of the Red Sox would find joy in the difficulties of any Yankee, as Nick or Javier.
When each of them turn it around, the jerks/trolls will be nowhere to be found.
But of course the scumbag umpires will always be here
boy, down by 1 with 2 innings to go…how on earth can the yankees come back
“”"”told ya earlier that they do not win close games in anaheim
and without damon, matsui and even melky (who did have some big hits), they won’t have late game herioics”"”"
You mean NJ, Winn, Grandy aren’t going to be the WS MVP’s?
Tex, I don’t buy that the Yankees are just giving away at bats. If they are, then I would be extremely disappointed in them and then that would make a difference on the kind of team I think they will be this year. Not executing is not the same as not trying.
Betsy-
You are making an issue out of nothing. Last year and this year are completely different.
The problem last year wasn’t so much that Joba had to be slotted as the “#4″ starter it was more than they only had 4 stable starters at all. Where the pitchers line up doesn’t matter that much.
They aren’t going to have that issue this year. They’ll stretch out Mitre or Aceves and insert them into the rotation. That’ll given them 5 starters.
Phil Hughes will be ok. And anway, he’s set to throw close to a full workload as it is. He’s a member of the team so if something goes wrong and he has to step up he’ll need to do so. It’s not a big deal. It’s just part of the game.
Here’s my theory as to how to get rid of trolls on a Yankees site….
Find a way to make 100% of umpires fair towards the Yankees and competent….
The Yankees will never miss the playoffs again, and will be unlikely to lose more World Series than we win.
That would keep the trolls away!
# Ed April 25th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Vasquez is a National League pitcher. I dont know why anyone is surprised that he is struggling again in the better of the two Leagues.
Rob relax how the heck can you call this a must game win? In April? When you have the best record in the Majors? Going 3-3 on the West Coast is bad ?? Geez some Yankee fans are so spoiled its ridiculous.
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Interpreting emoticons is not your strongest asset.
and now we will see a real set up man for anaheim
Ed if he’s just an NL pitcher,then the trade is going to look like a bad one really quickly. I’m not ready to say that yet………
Ace has thrown 15 pitches and he goes out the game. What if this game goes to extras?
CR9
The Pens finally woke up and played with the intensity that is needed. Here’s hoping that the Canadiens beat the Caps (which is a long shot). My guess is Pens/Caps for the Eastern Finals, which the Pens may or may not win.
I wish Javy the best, but I think he’s struggling with arm strength issues right now. I think he can eventually sort them out, but NY fans will have very little patience with him, give his past history here, and that is unfortunate.
I’m wicked psyched to be here. You guys ready to rent some cahs?
# CR9 April 25th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Here’s my theory as to how to get rid of trolls on a Yankees site….
Find a way to make 100% of umpires fair towards the Yankees and competent….
The Yankees will never miss the playoffs again, and will be unlikely to lose more World Series than we win.
That would keep the trolls away!
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Nope. Because they would be on here whining about how MLB and the umpires are rigging everything in the Yankee’s favor.
people talking about javy struggling are not jerks/trolls. we are discussing the problem with bringing him back. I agree with that person who points out that if we lose today we have 6 (not 5) losses and javy has half of them himself.
Nick Johnson has contributed by at least getting on base with walks…
i like most of what cashman does but losing three players to get vazquez was a mistake unless you believe he would be the difference in the playoffs, which i dont…
Pitt
NO! Here’s hoping the Caps take care of the Canadiens, so that way CROSBY and the PENS can dispatch of Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuukka and the Bruins.
if it goes to extras we have mitre.
# Mark- Can’t touch this April 25th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Ace has thrown 15 pitches and he goes out the game. What if this game goes to extras?
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Sergio Mitre.
If you want Thames bat in there against LH pitchers fine. But why not at DH? he sucks in the field. He did the sames thing is the Tampa.
Posada had the day off yesterday & we have an off-day tommorow, why not catch Posada, play Gardner in LF, & have Thames DH.
Even when Johnson gets back split the left/righty hitting at DH, not with Gardner. Gardy in the lineup makes the Yanks a much more dynamic team & a better defensive team. Gardner has earned the right to play every day with his .300 plus average & leading the AL in stolen bases.
Keep Thames out of LF….
Abreu isnt happy about that call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heh heh heh heh heh heh
We get cheated most games, and he gets one cheap call, and hes not happy.
“boy, down by 1 with 2 innings to go…how on earth can the yankees come back”
ralphie,
not gonna happen
this team is gutless
and you will see how a set-up man is supposed to perform next inning
wow what a job by marte
oy
First pitch to Abreu was a strike.
Marte doing his best Phil Coke impression by not getting out the lefty guy he’s facing.
What a joke of an at bat to Abreu there. He threw 2 perfect fastballs that were strikes and didn’t get a single one of them called.
Come on Damaso…Do your best to get out of this inning unscathed….
or not.
“Thames is not a horrible defensive player.”
LOL. Thames is the very definition of a terrible defensive player. I don’t think I can name another that is worse.
ladies and gentlemen…
the great damaso marte!
typical girardi move aceves was cruising.
wow. good thing we brought marte in.
Matt
Didnt you know the motto of umpires.
Yankees pitching: hitters umpire
Yankees batting: pitchers umpire
There was absolutely no reason to take out Aceves.
cant get the lefty and cant get the hitter who looks completely lost. now he gets to face mastui.
CB, I don’t believe I’m making an issue out of anything:
2009 without Wang:
CC, AJ, Andy, Joba, Mitre
2010 without Javy:
CC, AJ, Andy, Phil, Mitre………
To me it’s the same thing, but ok – this may all be moot as we don’t even know if Javy will be removed from the rotation. I don’t think he will.
marte…think playoffs….
This Marquez cheated some team last week against the Sox as the HP umpire.
Warren through 6 innings for Tampa yanks, 6 innings, 7 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 4 strikeouts
catcher Mitch Abeita is 2-3, triple ans 2 RBI
Rye is 2-3 with 2 RBI
In Charleston, Sean Black, 3 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 1 strikeout
Luke Murton is 1-1 with a double
Landoni with an RBI single
Every time you bring in a new relief pitcher you are taking a chance of putting a pitcher out on the mound who just simply doesn’t have it that day.
whining about umpires is a sure sign the yanks are going to lose
gj alex
I’m glad Matsui didn’t pick that for his clutch moment.
And he gets Matsui.
If Steinbrenner was still alive, there would be hell to pay.
Not Joe’s best series……..
why walk him?
Wow! Get the bucket.
Nice job by Arod not to charge the ball so he could stay back and get the force out.
Javier Vazquez = Kenny Rogers Redux Sorry to say but I think JV will end up as a pitcher who can pitch well for every team but the Yankees. Luckily he is only signed for this year. Melky is stone cold right now, but Braves fans are very high on the arm we gave up. Could end up as a loosing trade for us.
lol epic fail by the yankees
There is no way they can seriously think he was saying to IBB Morales.
What??
CR9,
Correction: The Sabres will make a big comeback to win the next 2 games and move onto the 2nd round.
It’ll be a different story against the Pens, but Sabres are a better team than that annoying Boston team.
There are players you have confidence in and players you don’t.
Even when a Pettitte or Sabathia is struggling you expect them to turn it around
With Vazquez even when he is going good in a game, you are waiting for that 1 inning he may blow up for some reason.
That is just the way some some things are.
Considering how Vazquez left New York, this is not the way he wanted to return and perform out of the gate.
He has already started whinging to the media about being booed, his work outs in the offseason, his arm strength, etc.
This is not the town for that, get out there and go do your job of helping the team to succeed.
I’ve tried giving Javy the benefit of the doubt but in watching him I see factors that lead me to question doing that. He is the type of personality that makes you lose confidence in him.
“ralphie,
not gonna happen
this team is gutless
and you will see how a set-up man is supposed to perform next inning
wow what a job by marte”
no hit girl, your gutless…your just some kind of stupid red sox troll or just a downright moron (they go hand in hand i guess)…you have absolutely no idea what your talking about…you must really have a sad and pathetic life if all you do is post on a message board and take shots at a sports team…i really feel bad for you
Betsy, the trade will never be “bad” because we gave up nothing to get Vasquez. Cabrerra sucks. Stick him into a weaker lineup and we see that without the protection he had in the Yankee lineup and he has been exposed as a below average hitter.
We can still win 105 games even with Vasquez on the roster and he will occasionally pitch a gem, but he scares the heck out of me in a playoff series.
That confusion between Cervelli, Marte and the bench is not good. An intentional walk here would be very odd.
And if they aren’t walking him wasting a ball is terrible.
uhhhhhhh WHAT WAS THAT
lol at girardi’s confusion
“lol epic fail by the yankees”
LMAO Intentional walk or not?
I guess the trolls have nothing better to do but troll on Lohud/Yankees these days…… sure beats watching that pathetic team of theirs play mediocre baseball day in and day out….
also keeps them from facing the reality that they’ve got on reinforcements on the farm whatsoever and the hope that Dice-K rejoining their ‘ro for his 5 inning start masterpieces allowing them to move Wakie to the ‘pen to solidify their mop up relief corp. can’t be to warming a thought!
That’s a tough throw with the right handed batter.
Marte is not getting any close calls.
WHERE WAS THAT PITCH???????
now he is getting pinched.
Who did we give up for Vasquez ? I was under the impression it was just Melky.
Squeeze squeeze squeeze
What a joke
giradri epic fail
Why didnt we walk him on 3-0?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Marte doesn’t look like he has it.
guess he should have walked him afterall.
That’s on Girardi.
Pen still is a big problem.
No one can be trusted, except Mo.
And marte picks up right where he left off. He’s garbage
ok I can turn this off
Nice Giradi……
I really thought Alex still manage to get the tag on Hunter. That could have been the end of the inning.
Instead…
LOLLOLLOLOLOLOLOL
the great joe girardi and the new york yankees
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
worst manager in baseball and a clownish bullpen
Girardi is just effing stupid sometimes.
Thats pretty infuriating.
That whole inning went wrong. We should’ve just left in Aceves and bring in marte to face matsui.
Oh, well. Can’t unring the bell.
Thanks Girardi. Aceves should have had this inning.
WE GOT CHEATED ON 2-0 and it changed the AB…..
Piece of frakkin carcillo Marquez. This frakkin loser Morales who does nothing against the Sox but sit on his fat lazy azz.
Maybe they should have walked him?? LOL
I know people will come unglued now, but let’s remember that it’s only April AND there is no way we don’t make the playoffs if everyone is healthy.
Girardi cost them this one…. Seems like signals were crossed whether to IBB Morales. That left Marte pitching tentatively..
Perhaps they should have walked him.
Haven’t gotten him out all series.
He’s the new Howie Kendrick against the Yankees. On base 3-4 times in every game.
walking him there is the most-obvious call of the year.
the LAST thing you want to do is groove one.
So basically every start by vazquez is an automatic loss
seriously, Angels’ lineup is not that good at all. But Yanks’ pitching staff today make them look awesome.
uh
what just happened
Does Girardi like to make moves because he has Attention Deficit Disorder and can’t sit still?
I can’t think of another rational explanation for why he makes some of these ‘match up’ moves. Marte pitched yesterday, it wasn’t like he needed the work.
Even Ace had to laugh when they took him out of the game.
when a jock sniffing gimp like SJ starts to second guess, you know things went bad.
Geez, Marte was huge last year in the playoffs when he only faced LH batters. He should only be used in that scenario.
If Gardner wasn’t in that game, this inning would still be going and Rivera would be on third.
Once it went to 3-0, we should have walked him….He’s a fat turd.
Are they going to make Cervelli give back his Nobel Catching Prize now?
I wish NYC media can bomb Yankees’ manager tomorrow.
He’s f??king retarded lately.
You can’t blame Marte one bit for this inning.
Abreu walked on 2 pitches which were right on the corner, and Morales hit a 3-0 pitch right on the corner at the knees for a home run.
If Abreu doesn’t draw that walk on a bunch of ridiculous calls, the inning probably never comes close to what it became. The home plate umpire squeezed Marte tremendously and forced him to come in there in hitter’s counts, and even then he didn’t make that bad of pitches.
How about not leaving marte in after the walk and HBP?
Not complaining. Well, not too loudly.
Lots of ways that inning could’ve had a different result.
Giradi cost the Yankees a chance to win this game with is over managing, Ace was pithing great and only threw 15 pitches…
Let’s see how quick these next 6 outs are. Guessing real quick
girardi loves that stupid stat book
What is the great value of match up baseball out of the bull pen?
When are managers ever going to learn? It is just startling.
Aceves was sharp. He was throwing the ball great.
And Girardi takes him out of the game just purely based on the hand he throws with. That trumped how well Aceves was throwing the ball.
Marte is so up an down with his command. It is not surprising that on any given day he’s just not going to have it.
And it’s very obvious very quickly when Marte is bad.
So you take out the guy throwing well in order to gain the generic statistical advantage of the left handed pitcher.
It’s just remarkable. The way Aceves was throwing the ball was largely dismissed.
Baseball managers need to stop with this Tony LaRussa school of bull pen management.
Watch a few games from the 1970′s. Learn about decision theory. Whatever. This just makes no sense.
Okay, here’s the plan:
Get 3 runs in the 8th. Get 2 more in the 9th. Mo comes in and locks it down.
JeterJoba
I wouldnt count on the Sabres winning 3 games in a row.
The referees will do what they have to to make the Bruins win.
They did the other game, with 7 power plays to the Broooons and 2 to Buffalo.
This blog is borderline intolerable at this point. You have to filter out the insanity.
Hey blowhard SJ how’s your boy Marte now?
Umps cost us this game, not Marte.
Abreu should never have been on base….
Actually, the Angels scored the second most runs in baseball last year. But maybe half of that was against the Yankees…
Oh well, the Yankees just need to beat the Orioles to come home with a winning road trip. A 12-6 record is still awesome after the brutal schedule they’ve had early on.
The only thing that infuriates me is that Girardi has barely used Aceves and Robertson at all this year, and they were two of his best relievers last season. What is it going to take for him to leave a pitcher in until he at least allows one freaking baserunner?
Well, there’s 0.63% of the season circling the drain.
When you’re talking that much less than 1% of the season, does it even matter?
It’s all just entertainment in April.
“I wish NYC media can bomb Yankees’ manager tomorrow.
He’s f??king retarded lately.”
Yea, 12-5 is pretty terrible.
You people need to either come down off the bridge or just go ahead and jump, freeing us all from the burden of having to slog through your mindless complaints.
Makes no sense CB makes no sense. SMH He loves matchups. He gets too cute at times.
I agree, I love Girardi as the manager (for the most part), but he relies way to heavily on “matchups.” Leave the person in the game who is throwing the ball well (in this case Ace). No reason to take him out there.
Girardi has a tendency to overmanage we all know this. Its been his “MO” since his Florida days…. Never been a big fan of the guy. I think he wins because he has the horses to win, not because he is a fine manager.
Those pitches to Abreu were balls.
Get over it.
Make sure to remember the name Marquez.
We can add him to the large list of Yankee hating umpires.
West, McClelland, Hernandez, Marquez. Tim Tschida.
CB Bucknor hates everybody and loves cheating everybody.
NICE CHEAP CALL UMP!!!!!!!!!! THERES THE PITCHERS UMPIRE
Instead of a walk, it’s 3-2
Marte = mop up man
The sooner the Yanks realize this, the more games we will win
Javy will be grateful. All the heat will be on Girardi.
10 run inning coming up for the Yankees
Yea, we got the walk anyway.
This dirtbag umpire.
I wish nothing but the worst on this human being Marquez.. And I hate to insult human beings by calling him one.
Vasquez, vitriol
Second guessing Girardi
LoHudder’s laments
Ok, so Girardi blew this game. There was no guarantee they would come back today anyway. Not sure why they didn’t let Aceves finish the inning.
Even so, Javy Vasquez and Marte need to execute.
You gotta wonder if Torre’s much maligned bullpen management was really so stupid after all.
He had far less of a commitment to ‘match-up baseball’ than Girardi did. And he rode mediocre pitchers going through hot stretches – Ron Villone, Scott Proctor, Tanyon Sturtze – very hard. Maybe overworking mediocre relievers who are hot isn’t such a bad idea. Torre would have left any of those three relievers on a hot streak in, regardless of matchups.
Hit Girl, based on your posts the last few days, you obviously know nothing about baseball.
think how good this team would be with a competent manager.
And they have a day off tomorrow, ick. I would rather skip the White House and just play tomorrow.
I won’t even comment on Girardi because………..ugh.
crap. alex not lucky this series.
laa lucky s.o.b
Another hard hit ball, and out. SICK!
Marte is not a mop-up man. He should only be used against lefties. He proved in the playoffs last year that it’s the only scenario where he can be trusted.
Fernando Rodney can’t buy a strike.
Huh, I thought it was only Yankee pitchers that can’t throw strikes with a 4 run lead.
Ugh, Marte, next time hit that knee harder.
“Girardi has a tendency to overmanage we all know this. Its been his “MO” since his Florida days…. Never been a big fan of the guy. I think he wins because he has the horses to win, not because he is a fine manager.”
Can’t that be said about any manager?
Was Joe Madden a good manager when he was losing 100 games every year?
I have to breathe deeply and remember we’re 12-6 if we lose this game
I have to breathe deeply and remember Javier Vazuqez won’t start every game
I have to breathe deeply and remember we have played the hardest schedule thus far to start the season of any team
I have to breathe deeply and remember we have 1 more loss than Tampa should we lose today
I have to breathe deeply
CR9:
How much do you want to bet that by the end of the year, you’ll have added everyone to your list of “Yankee hating umpires”?
One of the saddest things is when someone blames everyone else for their shortcomings. The only thing worse than that is when the person complaining isn’t even the one who is allegedly being harmed.
Get over it, stop complaining.
We can still win this game….
Hey, a fair 0-1 call to CANO!!!
These LAA TV announcers are morons. One of them just said that Torii made that catch as payback for being hit in the knee during his last at bat. So are we supposed to believe that if Torii hadn’t been hit, he would have let that ball fall in the gap for a double? Idiots.
You gotta wonder if Torre’s much maligned bullpen management was really so stupid after all.
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it was. Girardi’s management might be puzzling on a game basis, but over the course of a season it effective.
Laura, I am watching the Angels telecast too (stupid Comcast) and had the same reaction to their comment. How dumb are they? LOL
These LA announcer LOVE Robbie….its hilarious, how far up his ass they are.
“Makes no sense CB makes no sense. SMH He loves matchups. He gets too cute at times.”
The really sad thing is that managers do this based on “statistics.” And they are actually using the statistics incorrectly. It’s just hard to believe.
Statistics don’t determine decisions. There are entire fields of work devoted to this subject. In baseball managers think they are making “rational” decisions based on evidence but they are actually using the data incorrectly.
How can no one point this out to them? I can’t get over it.
Weren’t people killing Joe for letting Joba, a RH face Morales, rather than bringing in Marte?
Now people wanted Aceves to face 2 lefties? Then why is Marte on the team?
Convenient… Marte does what he is paid to do (get left handers out) and it is not an issue.
Difference between Girardi and Torre:
Girardi uses his whole bullpen (for the most part). Torre had his favorites that he used all the time and the rest were left to rot.
I’m beginning to wonder, Jerkface. Taking out Robertson two days ago was dumb (yes, I know Joba still had to execute) and Ace now as just as dumb. Sometimes Joe tries to show off how smart he thinks he is.
oh well, the cheap calls in the rest of the ABs forced Cano to swing at 2 ball 4 pitches on 3-2.
Thanks Marquez for altering ABs
“its hilarious, how far up his ass they are.”
No farther than Peter Gammons up the Red Sox’s. He is so far up, his tongue is BROWN!
Bandit-
Cut that out, this is a common sense and perspective-free zone. If your next post doesn’t say something about how Vasquez should be executed at dawn, I think we’re going to have to ask you to leave.
Sometimes Joe tries to show off how smart he thinks he is.
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You don’t know this. Maybe he just has a better feeling about bringing in a new guy?
GC: It’s cause Torre fell asleep that he left incompetent 6th inning mop up pitcher into the 7th and 8th.
D-Rob gets no love. Marte walks then hits a batter and gets to stay in. Hilarious.
Definitely head scratching moves Friday night and today with the pen.
Also, Jerkface, each game is 1/162 of a season. If Joe keeps doing this, how many times is it going to bite him in the face? The deficit was only one and now it’s a lot less manageable. Losing 2/3 in Anaheim is pretty disappointing, especially since they’ve played pretty badly.
When was the last time we won a series in Anaheim?
You mean like Francona bringing in Scott Achitson with the bases loaded to face Nick Johnson?
Or the “brilliant” Soscia pitching to A-Rod with Guzman and Gardner due up?
No manager handles a pen the way the fans want them to. Just the way it is. Don’t see how Girardi is any different.
“oh well, the cheap calls in the rest of the ABs forced Cano to swing at 2 ball 4 pitches on 3-2.”
You mean like on ball 2 which actually should have been strike 2?
I actually liked Girardi’s bullpen management in 2008. He took a group of unproven relievers and gave them the best opportunity to succeed.
It’s when you already have the proven relievers and refuse to use them that irks me. Aceves won 10 games last year and Girardi takes him out of the game like he was expecting an implosion.
LOL Carl, good point. I can’t figure Joe out at all…
Betsy
Joe makes mistakes here and there. He’s only human.
He kept us in position last year to be the team with the most come from behind wins, IIRC.
Also, Jerkface, each game is 1/162 of a season. If Joe keeps doing this, how many times is it going to bite him in the face? The deficit was only one and now it’s a lot less manageable. Losing 2/3 in Anaheim is pretty disappointing, especially since they’ve played pretty badly.
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He is the same manager he was last year, it worked out. He made plenty of head scratchers last year and in the end the yankees came out on top and most of our bullpen had good years.
# Marcus April 25th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
You mean like Francona bringing in Scott Achitson with the bases loaded to face Nick Johnson?
Or the “brilliant” Soscia pitching to A-Rod with Guzman and Gardner due up?
No manager handles a pen the way the fans want them to. Just the way it is. Don’t see how Girardi is any different.
You have to admit he doesn’t use D-Rob enough.
Ben
Dont know what you’re smoking, pal. But ball 2 to Cano was A BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RS, I buy that. In 2008, he gave those guys confidence. He didn’t put them in the dog house after bad performances and he did get the best out of them. That was 2 years ago….
“These LA announcer LOVE Robbie….its hilarious, how far up his rear they are”
As they should be. Cano doesn’t get nearly the credit he should. The guy has pure raw hitting talent. I’m looking for him to be MVP either this year or some season soon.
Bandit,
The fact remains that Aceves can get out both lefties and righties. He threw 15 pitches in 1.2 innings.
I will take a steady Aceves on a low pitch count over Box o’ Chocolates Marte in that situation any day.
I cant hate the Angels so much this year.
They actually *GASP* showed effort last year in the ALDS to beat the Red Sox, and then *GASP* made mental mistakes galore in losing to us.
Helping us to our 27th World Series!!!!
Bringing in his LEFT HANDER to face two LEFT HANDERS to lead off an inning is showing how smart someone is? No, showing how smart he is would be to leave the soft tossing righty in when he has a good lefty in the pen.
And if Aceves give up the HR to Morales, he would be killed for Marte being in his ‘dog house’ and not using him.
Girardi can’t win.
CR9 + 25 IQ points = a fairly decent moron
All of a sudden, “Joe sucks”? Man, we’re 12-6, relax.
first series drop.
They almost ruined my weekend. Job well done!
Jerkface, we’ll see…..Joe drives me crazy at times, but frankly he’s hardly their biggest problem. Their biggest problem is their #4 SP.
“You have to admit he doesn’t use D-Rob enough.”
I like Robertson a lot, but he’s got a career era of 4.35. That’s not exactly star quality for a reliever.
Bobby Valentine come on down…
“Convenient… Marte does what he is paid to do (get left handers out) and it is not an issue.”
Bandit, you don’t always have to go to your lefty specialist if the righty pitcher is handling his business. Right handed pitchers have the ability to get out lefties. Look at Mo.
Aceves was cruising. Taking him out of the ballgame was a waste of resources.
navigating through this land mine-filled early-season schedule will be huge. beginning 5/28 the Yanks have:
4 @home vs. Cleveland
3 @home vs. Baltimore
3 @Toronto
3 @Baltimore
3 @Houston
that’s 16 straight games against the punching bags.
if abreu gets up drill him
When do the Yankees just cut their losses with Marte? He has either been hurt or ineffective for pretty much his entire Yankee tenure. He has one task and he can’t even do that.
The Yankees can’t get to Baltimore fast enough, lol. The O’s won today, which means they are due for another 8 game losing streak. Perfect timing.
CR, I find Joe gets the best out of his players because he’s a genuinely good man who cares about his players as people. He’s very good that way and over the course of a long season, that is enormously beneficial. It’s sort of like looking at a painting – get some perspective and it’s fine, but don’t look too closely at the brushstrokes. We very well may have lost today anyway – it’s not like our pitching, D or offense was on the beam.
Unblocked! Finally
# ben April 25th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
“You have to admit he doesn’t use D-Rob enough.”
I like Robertson a lot, but he’s got a career era of 4.35. That’s not exactly star quality for a reliever.
How is he suppose to get that down facing 1 batter every once in a while?
Betsy
I think you left out one key part. The HP was on the beam, the Yankee cheating beam!
“Bandit, you don’t always have to go to your lefty specialist if the righty pitcher is handling his business. Right handed pitchers have the ability to get out lefties. Look at Mo. ”
Oh, well if Mo can do it, then I’m sure Aceves can as well.
“teddy gbu
if abreu gets up drill him”
Pure class.
Joe should take out Mitre and put Marte back in to face the lefty.
I’m not assuming anything in Baltimore. Baseball just isn’t like football where the huge talent gap means anything; the talent gap between teams comes into play over the course of a long season, not necessarily 3 games. The Yankees are not playing particularly well right now – their offense is “ok”, but not great, and their D leaves a lot to be desired. I’ll take 2/3 and a 5/4 road trip.
The Yankees have outplayed the Angels in nearly every game in this series, and are going to lose 2/3 due to some ridiculous strike zones and Girardi’s overmanaging. A pretty big disappointment given the fact that they could have swept this series with a few more breaks in their direction.
In today’s game, 7 of the 8 runs for the Angels scored after walks on which the umpire missed at least 2 strike calls. Thames missed a ball in left field, but the fact that the inning got so out of hand was the fact that Napoli walked when he should have struck out in that at bat. Same thing in the 7th. If Abreu does not get that walk in which Marte hit the corner twice with fastballs, then the inning never gets to Morales in the first place.
A few missed calls here and there can completely turn around the progression of the game. It’s not ridiculous to “blame” umpires, considering when they don’t do their jobs and miss calls in CRUCIAL spots, they can definitely swing the game in one team’s favor when they otherwise may not have been in that position.
We’ve won 1 series in Anaheim in 6 years (last year in September).
Even in the playoffs, we lost 2 of 3 in Anahiem because we blew leads late (Andy blew a 3-0 lead, Hughes blew the lead in the 7th after we rallied from 4 down in game 5).
We always seem to hit in Anahiem but our pitchers and especially bullpen always seems to get rocked. That’s why Andy’s performance yesterday was refreshing.
CR, I’m not going to blame the umpires for the Yankees losing…..
teddy gbu
Abreu actually has respect for the Yankees organization.
And he was almost decapitated by the violent murderous Josh Beckett last year.
I think I’ll side with Abreu, and not drill him!
“How is he suppose to get that down facing 1 batter every once in a while?”
The same way he got it up facing 1 batter every once in a while?
Again, I like Robertson and think he’s got the stuff to be a long term chunk of our bullpen. However, it’s not like he’s mowing people down left and right every time he gets out there.
come on yankees hit like you’re hitting against the yankees
yea so cano got drilled so somebody needs to drill
BloggingBombers By no means am I saying fans should be pleased with Vazquez’s start. But the overreactions I’m seeing are way too far over the line.
This may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with Feinsand. LOL
Using career ERAs without any context is a terrible way to evaluate a pitcher.
OMG a cheap call for strike 3….
DOWN 4 runs going to the 9th inning.
Way to try to make things look fair, Marquez!!!!!!! You dont fool me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it is hard to get relievers work as well, considering in our last 4 games we’ve had pitchers goes 8 innings three times and 1 went 7.
re: that called strike 3 to Abreu:
“It’s been a floating strike zone all afternoon!”
Yet, that’s the only time the Angels announcers felt compelled to mention it.
Congrats on getting unblocked, Abuwon Skywalker!
I think.
“The Yankees have outplayed the Angels in nearly every game in this series”
yeah, it’s like you lose money in stock market and you blame the market move in the wrong direction.
good! So you will lose more.
ben April 25th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
“How is he suppose to get that down facing 1 batter every once in a while?”
The same way he got it up facing 1 batter every once in a while?
Again, I like Robertson and think he’s got the stuff to be a long term chunk of our bullpen. However, it’s not like he’s mowing people down left and right every time he gets out there.
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didn’t he have like 12k’s per 9ip last year?
I don’t see how the Yankees have outplayed the Angels at all.
ERA may be one of the worst stats by which to judge a reliever’s performance!
You people make me laugh more and more every day with your ridiculous “Robertson shouldn’t pitch because OMG HIS ERA!!!!”
Relievers inherit other relievers’ runners and other relievers allow their runners to score. Unlike the case of a starter, a relief pitcher’s ERA is often not entirely in his hands unless he is the closer. You have to judge a reliever by stats such as batting average against, K/9, BB/9, etc, stats which are IN HIS CONTROL.
In all of those stats, Robertson has excelled tremendously. Last season opponents hit .216 against Robertson, and he struck out nearly 3 times as many as he walked, with a nearly 13 K/9 rate last year, tops in the AL. He was the best reliever on the Yankees other than Phil Hughes and Mariano Rivera last year, yet Girardi does not seem to trust him consistently.
Can Posada hit another infield hit?
@Matt
Completely absent from your entire post is any recognition that the Yankees benefited from a similarly narrow strike zone. We had 5 walks today, 4 of which involved at least one pitch that was clearly a strike being called a ball.
Rather than accuse the umpires of having some secret desire to ruin your weekend and thrust the Yankees into the pit of despair, don’t you think it’s possible that this up just has a narrow strike zone?
Just got home-
Don’t know what distresses me more- the score or the comments on this thread
“This may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with Feinsand. LOL”
Feinsand needs to read my comments above. Javy can’t make fans forget 2004. Until he does, he’ll always be behind the eight ball.
Yanks will either be 13-5 or most likely, 12-6
but note this.
# of Yankee home games = 6
# of Yankee road games = 12
12-6 is a tremendous start.
12-6 when 2/3 of your games were on the road = phenomenal
We play the Angels like the Twins play us. The Angels relish being able to come from behind against the Yankees, just like the Yankees don’t blink when the Twins get a lead against them.
70% of the Yankees games in April are road games. Getting off to a hot start this April was going to be tough and they have accomplished that (pending the orioles)
Erica
What should distress you more is the HP umpire, Alfonso Marquez.
at least we didn’t get swept
CR9 April 25th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Erica
What should distress you more is the HP umpire, Alfonso Marquez
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I haven’t seen any of this game-
However, I will add him to the really long list of umpires you hate. I don’t waste my energy on that
The umpiring had almost nothing to do with this loss. From the first inning you could see Vazquez was living on borrowed time.
The only question was whether he could get lucky enough to get through five innings before the windows blew open.
He looked awful and that’s why the game broke the way it did.
Because Robertson didn’t give up the game-tying rocket single to Beltre in the 1st game
or because he didn’t give up that double to Youkallis and Marte/Joba had to baul him out.
or he didn’t give up a grand slam against the Angels, prompting us to get Mariano in the game.
Again, let’s not act like he has been lights out here and its some crime that he is pitching infrequently. He has been up and down, just like the rest of the pen has. Joba, Robertson, Ace, Park, Marte, etc. have all looked erratic so far this season. They’ve looked great some nights and got rocked the next.
Alfonso Marquez did his job today, SPECTACULARLY.
He deserves all the credit for this Angels, I mean, HP umpires’ victory.
Thanks for the fair game yesterday, Bob Davidson.
Lets not also forget that almost all of their games on the road have been against the best teams in the league-
Boston, Tampa and Anaheim.
Its not exactly like playing in Kansas City
Okay.
3-3 in California.
3-3 vs. Angels.
Don’t love it, but I’ll take it.
“didn’t he have like 12k’s per 9ip last year?”
Yeah, and he also had a WHIP of 1.35.
Erica
I was just playing around with you. You dont have to blame anybody you dont want to.
But if more energy was spent by sports on cleaning up the honesty and competency of the umpires, the Yankees would be even more successful than they already are
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Vazquez is the real issue that needs to be addressed. Arguing about Robertson or Girardi or Nick Johnsion is fruitless.
What the heck was that from the Angels announcers?
“The Angels improve to 10-10, the Yankees “fall” to 12-6?
Umm, I’d rather have the Yankees record. Falling or not. Just sayin’
Dig this….Sox have played the O’s & Royals 3 times already, Rays have played O’s 6 times already!!
Not even close. Did you see the 3-1 pitch on Swisher right after Vazquez gave back the lead? That pitch was at least 3-4 inches off the plate. The Yankees have not seen a tight strike zone because it has only been tight for their pitchers. Marquez has consistently expanded the strike zone on Yankees hitters, which have forced them to swing at pitches off the plate in pitcher’s counts.
Only someone who isn’t a serious baseball fan would think that umpires have no impact on games. A missed call in an at bat can completely turn around a crucial at bat, and when they are missing 2 or 3 pitches in a row, it’s almost impossible to get quality major league hitters out.
How many PERFECT pitches can a pitcher make in a row if they are not getting called? When you say that if you keep fouling stuff off eventually he might make a mistake, the same applies when he is not getting pitches called. When a guy is in a tough spot and has made some high stress pitches, a missed call in a crucial at bat may decide the game.
What an ugly, ugly game.
This ballpark is just a house of horrors for the Yankees. Luckily, this is the last time the Yankees will have to play a regular season game here.
When they play the Angels at this park, Anaheim’s batting average on balls in play must be like .750. It’s just ridiculous.
Good riddance to this place.
Yankees had 3 hits for the day! Javier was awful ! He can’t pitch in the AL.
“The Angels go to 10-10. The Yankees fall to 12-6.”
We’ve gotten off to a great start. A pace that would’ve been very difficult to keep up.
Took us 6 series to lose one.
I’m disappointed, though. Would’ve been nice to set the record of series wins to start a season.
And disappointed that Javy is still struggling. Hopefully, he’ll turn it around very soon. We need those innings!
Off to the White House and then hopefully whitewash the O’s.
new thread
A 3-3 road trip is not the end of the world. On to Baltimore for the last leg of this trip and 15 games off the road schedule. Nobody on the DL. A few issues for Girardi to iron out before the next home game vs. the White Sox on April 30.
Umm… 7 of the 8 Angels runs came either with 2 outs after a walk that came on missed calls, or or after Thames missed that ball in left field.
Seven of their eight runs. Think about that before you say the Yankees got flat out beaten today.
If Thames catches that ball or Napoli strikes out like he should have, the inning is maybe 1 or 2 runs tops, and the game is a completely different animal. It changes everything.
Erin April 25th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
BloggingBombers By no means am I saying fans should be pleased with Vazquez’s start. But the overreactions I’m seeing are way too far over the line.
This may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with Feinsand. LOL
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LOL.
I actually agree with him a lot. He’s a pretty reasonable level-headed person.
I think he’s right. Yankee fans live far too much in the past. They’re like elephants, they dont’ forget – to their own detriment at times.
“Only someone who isn’t a serious baseball fan would think that umpires have no impact on games.”
And only someone with a total lack of common sense would be convinced that the umpires are always out to screw his favorite team.
Again, nobody is denying that umpires can and do have impacts on games. What is ludicrous is the claim that a substantial group of umpires are affirmatively making an effort to treat the Yankees differently than other teams.
I was eating dinner during the 3-run homerun and mis-communication with “the bench.”
The result of that at-bat is on the manager. Definitely.
@Betsy “Losing 2/3 in Anaheim is pretty disappointing, especially since they’ve played pretty badly.”
The Angels went 5-2 after leaving NY and that included a 5 game win streak. They’re one of the better teams in the AL, what’s disappointing about losing a series to them? It’s not is if they got swept out of town. They grabbed a win and had two tough losses. All in all they went 3-3 on the west coast swing. I’ll take it.
12-6 against Boston, Tampa, Texas and LA (twice) is pretty nice way to start off the season. Especially when 2/3 of those games were on the road…
Overall, over the body of work, Girardi does a very good to excellent job of managing a bullpen; it is his strength. For some reason, we seem to be seeing a little too much changing up. But, one thing that has been constant over his 3 seasons is that April has been a weird month for relief pitchers for the Yankees. In prior years, there’s definitely been an over-exposure issue; this year, there’s some under-exposure.
I’m not gonna hang Girardi by his thumbs for trying to get his bullpen work. But today was not a good day – partly because he could ahve stuck with Aceves, but mainly because of the indecision that was evident in the at-bat where (was it Morales – I was eating dinner?) was starting to be IBB’d and then was pitched to.
Girardi is not trying to show how smart he is; he is trying to spread the work around. Sometimes that’s good. Let’s face it, CC and Pettitte and AJ have been giving innings. Even Phil gave innings. When are these relief guys going to pitch? If they don’t pitch enough, they’re not sharp; if they pitch too much, they’re exposed. It’s a fine line.
This will work itself out. April seems to be a month for working things out.
And let’s look at it this way: In prior years, while the Yankees were working things out, they were at best .500. They are 6 or 7 game over .500 while still having things work themselves out. Perspective. Perspective.
He is the same manager he was last year, it worked out. He made plenty of head scratchers last year and in the end the yankees came out on top and most of our bullpen had good years.
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You mean, the Yanks won despite Girardi’s bonehead moves.
Akamgkrebs, Lets be fair. Anyone can win with this team. Its about the talent. Thats why I laugh at the “fire Jerry Manuel” talk across town…. The manager of a team accounts for a difference of a couple of games a year.
Akamgkrebs, Lets be fair. Anyone can win with this team. Its about the talent. Thats why I laugh at the “fire Jerry Manuel” talk across town…. The manager of a team accounts for a difference of a couple of games a year.
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Again, that doesn’t mean that Girardi doesn’t make bonehead moves on a regular basis. The Yanks won theWorld Series, not because they used a 3 man rotation, but in spite of it. They did not win because Posada was benched when Burnett pitched in the playoffs, but in spite of it.
ratz