Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 27, 2010
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The Yankees have passed along pictures of the Yankees Monday morning visit to the Mologne House, a rehabilitation home for wounded veterans located near Walter Reed Medical Center in D.C.



Who is that bizarre looking creature staring at CC
D-Rob owns. Lookit that suit.
Great pictures! I love the one at the top (mostly because Robbie’s in it
). I don’t remember seeing pictures of CC, AJ and Robertson yesterday. And I didn’t notice Jorge’s suit was blue-he looks good!
Chad & Sam, Thanks for all the pix the last 2 days!
CC’s suit looks awful. I understand it’s tough for the big guy to find nice fitting stuff but come on… we pay him enough money for this :p
Not sure if it’s my firefox or what, but the pictures looked sized down and distorted. Maybe because of the column restrictions on the site? Maybe make them clickable for full size versions?
AJ goes sans necktie of course.
After all, it is only The White House.
What’s the over/under on square yardage of wool that goes into a CC Sabathia suit?
Look at how happy that guy in the 3rd picture looks……..who’s getting his hat signed by Jeeeties!!
Gotta love the happiness and joy sports brings people!
Aww, great pictures.
Bronx Jeers April 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
AJ goes sans necktie of course.
After all, it is only The White House.
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I think AJ looks good!!
And I’m not the least bit surprised he went without a tie.
What a wonderful thing the Yankees did by giving back yesterday; those men and women are real heroes.
AJ probably should have worn a tie, but he looks great, lol
That is not the white house.
?Could anyone care what Trisha thinks or what her detractors think about what she thinks less than I do right now??
Yeah. Me.
Ovah.
These are great pictures the past two days.
Thanks for the pictures.
No it’s not; I tried checking other pics to see if AJ wore a tie at the White House, but he was hardly in any of them. Either way, the important thing isn’t the tie, it’s making these veterans feel good.
That definitely needed reposting, so I will also repost my retort:
The fact you care less than I do about your own thoughts definitely explains some things.
The following people have submitted lineups for GTLU so far:
yankswin27
Erin
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jeter ss
Swish DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada c
granderson cf
Gardner LF
Winn RF
Jeter: SS
Johnson: DH
Tex: 1B
Arod: 3B
Cano: 2B
Posada: C
Grandy: CF
Swish: RF
GB: LF
I didn’t say he looked bad. I just think it’s funny he didn’t think it was formal enough an occasion to wear a tie.
Actually the suit looks pretty good. I can’t say the same for others.
Jeter SS
Swisher DH
Tex 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Winn RF
Gardner LF
“The fact you care less than I do about your own thoughts definitely explains some things.”
Yeah it means that when something’s over I move on. Maybe you should do the same.
Gtlu in the house
SS Jeter
jeter ss
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
retort. great word. explains everything.
How the heck do you not wear a tie to the white house?
That’s like going to a Halloween party without a costume…..
What I find wrong with our voyeuristic society is that we are quick to blame and accuse as if we have all the facts. With ARod it was assumed he cheated on his wife. Perhaps he had an open marriage and he wasn?t cheating. Perhaps not. I prefer to keep the moral judgments to myself and keep from having to cast the 1st stone.
I don’t know whats worse… AJ not wearing a tie or Teix’s brown suit
The Core 4 story from SI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....core.four/
“retort. great word. explains everything.”
Jerkface, come on. Please dont start attacking others on the site. Attack umpires/referees
An open marriage is not really a marriage at all
What is the point of marriage if you are allowed to still be with other women (or men)?
GTLU,
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriquez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtin Granderson CF
Randy Winn RF
Brett Gardner LF
And as always, thanks to Doreen for hosting GTLU
Nick D April 27th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I don?t know whats worse? AJ not wearing a tie or Teix?s brown suit
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Tex’s brown suit. And I didn’t even think he looked that bad!
I’ll say it again, AJ looks great
This picture was not taken at the White House.
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Winn DH
GGBG LF
Thanks as always Doreen
Stop point out Trisha’s hypocrisy -
Remember it is always about her and she is the victim.
Correction
It’s bonus excerpts not the SI story.
Unique lineup guess
Jeter LF
Gardner CF
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Granderson LF
Swisher DH
Winn RF
Looks like the inmates are starting to run the asylum
pat April 27th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
The Core 4 story from SI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..core.four/
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Thanks pat. LOL at Jorge calling Arod “Coach Alex”
In the blog entry entited “Welcome to the White House” look at the group picture. Upper row, 4th man from the left is AJ with a tie.
Nick,
AJ’s non-tie was worse IMO
But Tex’s brown suit was awful. So is his hair cut actually.
Wow, that was a fantastic interview. They’re SO right about speeding up the game and how stupid a notion it is. I love the fact that baseball can go on eternally.
AJ DID wear a tie ..and ..Posada’s suit is not that BLUE color. It’s a dark suit ..
Go Yankees 2010 !!
Gayle,
Yeah I didn’t come up with that name by myself. Saw it online and since I love ichiro I had to use it. Unfortunately i’m 0-3 but kinsler has been injured for every week. I still like my team I just need kinsler back and some better luck
Teixeira nd Bud Selig have the same hair cut
“I love the fact that baseball can go on eternally.”
Me too.
Now a LoHud blogger: Mr. Blackwell?
Those pics were in the Medical Center …everyone was dressed properly at the White House. I also think Tex could have gone with another color but hey …he was recognized personally by the President so I don’t think it really mattere.
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
Why was Michael Kay at the ring ceremony?
thanks Pat for the SI link. My favorite part is Jorge talking about how they text Andy every off season begging him to return.
Doreen
looks like quite a variety of guesses today, hopefully Girardi doesn’t win this one
Doreen, thanks! I knew AJ wouldn’t have made that kind of mistake.
Pat, thanks for posting that link!
Patrick, the problem with head-to-head, at least the way CBS does it, is that we don’t have replacements for injured players. That puts you at a total disadvantage. In rotisserie we were able to replace injured players, but they had to be DLd I believe. We can’t even do that in head-to-head.
I’m also 0-3.
Oh well.
CC’s suit is fine, he just buttoned it up too much
sterling looked so confused the entire time they were up on the podium.
When is baseball going to rid itself of umpires?
The good ones, and unbiased ones, are so few and far between.
Would you say your fantasy team is better or worse than the Toronto Blue Jays?
That SI article is fantastic: “We’ve been doing it since ’03 because Andy’s been retiring since ’03″
Trisha-
You can take injured players from your reserves once the week is over. However, once the week starts you are locked into whatever you selected
I am a Fat Walrus April 27th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
That SI article is fantastic: ?gWe?fve been doing it since ?e03 because Andy?fs been retiring since ?e03??
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I know, I had to laugh at that too.
In the SI article they’re talking about how they (the 4) take a photo together after the season since 2003.
Jorge says:
“We’ve done it since ’03 because Andy’s been retiring since ’03.”
“Josh Beckett after five starts last season:
2-2, 7.22 ERA, 28.2 IP, 36 H, 24 R, 23 ER, 16 BB, 31 K, .303 OBA
Josh Beckett after five starts this season:
1-0, 7.22 ERA, 28.2 IP, 37 H, 24 R, 23 ERR, 13 BB, 20 K, .316 OBA”
Weird
ahh you all play the uber strict fantasy baseball.
Its like poetry, it rhymes.
Erica, it’s getting locked in that’s a problem. But thankfully we can do it once the week is over. I hated rotisserie only because you had to tend to it every day. However, there were definitely benefits to that! You could dump players on the spot if necessary!
LGY -
Interesting numbers.
pat-
Thanks for posting that link to the SI excerpts. Fun to read.
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RayVT
Dave F
Erica
PC Dan
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Thanks.
Lineups accepted until 3, or until lineup is posted via Twitter.
LGY
HOLY ****
That is weird!
The most concerning thing about his almost identical slow starts is that he has struck out 11 less guys this year in the same amount of innings.
Doreen
Jeter: SS
Johnson: DH
Tex: 1B
Arod: 3B
Cano: 2B
Posada: C
Grandy: CF
Swish: RF
BG: LF
Beckett and Lester will be fine. They are notorious slow starters just like CC.
It’s their hitting that is the concern long term.
trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 27th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Erica, it?s getting locked in that?s a problem. But thankfully we can do it once the week is over. I hated rotisserie only because you had to tend to it every day. However, there were definitely benefits to that! You could dump players on the spot if necessary!
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I kind of like that I don’t need to worry about tweaking my team more than once a week.
If I had to change my team daily it would probably drain a lot more of my time than I could give it
# Andrew April 27th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Now a LoHud blogger: Mr. Blackwell?
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I felt the “break” on A-Rod’s hem was near perfect.
Lot of innings in Vazquez’ arm (2510). Third-highest among active AL pitchers. Wakefield and Pettitte are 1-2.
19 minutes ago via
CR9 April 27th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Most of the Umps are good ones. They make mistakes just like everyone else. Some try to compensate for their mistakes and get in more trouble. It is a tough job and computers, instrumentation and scanners make errors too.
Can you imagine going into Boston and having the software and electronic instrumentation being controlled by them? Umpires are a part of the game! Make sure that what you ask for is really what you want. Electronics could be an easy way to skew games for gamblers too. They aren’t close to being perfect.
Accuscore playoff changes as of April 26th
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....cast042610
*** Chances
Silly Erica!
hahahaha Francessa killing Kay (subtly) for being a the ring ceremony. Saying only people associated with the organization who played or helped with the construction of the team (general manager, trainers, etc.) should get a ring.
Schilling should realize that BS makes good fertilizer for tomato plants and he has an ample amount of BS to use.
The Sox really are lucky they are playing such bad teams right now. It is the only way they are staying afloat. If they were playing some decent or good teams they could be close to buried right now.
“# RayVT April 27th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
What I find wrong with our voyeuristic society is that we are quick to blame and accuse as if we have all the facts. With ARod it was assumed he cheated on his wife. Perhaps he had an open marriage and he wasn?t cheating. Perhaps not. I prefer to keep the moral judgments to myself and keep from having to cast the 1st stone.
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I agree, I’ve heard Peyton Manning has an open marriage. A lot more of that stuff goes on than people think so people shouldn’t rush to judge. And TMZ sports is the worst possible thing to happen to today’s professional athletes, don’t know how anyone can work for them
RayVT
You make excellent points. I would, though, love to see balls and strikes called by a machine, just on a test basis. I guarantee games would go a lot quicker.
Why was Sterling and Suzayn at the ceremony? Because they were invited by the team and the WH.
“TMZ sports is the worst possible thing to happen to today’s professional athletes”
Some athletes are going to get a little taste of what it’s like to be Tom Brady or Kobe or Alex.
They’ll either clean up their acts or criticize them less. win/win.
For those who have come to the conclusion that the Boston Red Sox will be a team that will be a non-factor, you’re in denial……..They have some early season issues, however I expect them to be in the hunt all season…….I don’t see them as a mid 90 win club, but I do expect them to be in the Wild Card hunt ……….Good piece in this week’s ESPN the Magazine on how the Pittsburgh Pirates are stockpiling all the discarded former # 1 picks over the past 6 years or so…..Interesting strategy, and it may pay off……They have a very good development program in place now with the new regime…..SJ, I think you’ll dig this piece
There’s is a vast gap between Jeter’s legacy and Arod’s circus. You cannot change history and the baseball books and thinkers will immortalize Derek Jeter.
To expect the same for an admitted cheater is just overblown irrational fanaticism and it’s not based on an objective view of the workings of history.
History makes no excuses.
History cannot be erased.
It has been written…
Signed,
The Master
History will tell us all about the game changing home runs A-rod hit in 09.
Pat M. April 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
For those who have come to the conclusion that the Boston Red Sox will be a team that will be a non-factor, you?re in denial??..They have some early season issues, however I expect them to be in the hunt all season??.I don?t see them as a mid 90 win club, but I do expect them to be in the Wild Card hunt ???.
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I agree 100%.
I stated that last week and was told I was wrong. Honestly, I hope I am- but I fully expect the Red Sox to be an entity this season
why are the fonts still screwey and more ads?
Jerkface April 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
History will tell us all about the game changing home runs A-rod hit in 09.
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I have to say, the A-Rod home run that always makes me smile was the one in his very last regular season at bat after Maddon walked the bases loaded for him. Which gave him 30 home runs and 100 RBIs. Eat that Maddon!
RayVT – The sensors and electronics would be run by MLB, not any particular host city. It is what I want, I don’t want the game to be purposely called incorrectly anymore.
Human’s can only introduce 2 things to a situation, error and bias.
Jetes SS
Swish DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Winn RF
Gardner LF
CR9 April 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
My profession is an Instrumentation and Controls engineer. Believe me the instrumentation is an area that provides incorrect readings. Also they are susceptible to radio frequency noise (RFI) or Electromagnetic Interferrence (EMI) that can change the results. Cell phones for instance could affect the readings significantly! LOL!
Wangkee… do you still post on the YESNetwork website?
Can people STOP complaining about the ads??????????????????????
This is a newspaper website. They make money off ad sales. The money they make off ad sales pays Chad and Sam and the Lohud team so they can continue writing a blog where you have the freedom to complain.
While I have no doubt Lohud is a fine and noble institution, they are not going to tell Toyota to keep their money because you think the ad is annoying.
Learn to live with it and move on.
I think a monocle with an overlaid strike zone that uses the pitchFX data to display BALL , STRIKE, location for the umpire to then make his call would be the way to go.
Umpire still behind home plate for balks, interfearance, whatever, but uses the computer system to call balls and strikes. They would still get to call balls and strikes vocally, but the computer would decide.
GTLU
SS Jeter
DH NJ
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B Cano
C Posada
CF C. Grand
RF Swish
LF Gardy
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
LOL! True! But so does instrumentation. All instruments have errors and biases. Add to them the human factor of calibration and even software issues and you could have even more biasing. Be careful what you ask for!
Jerkface – I agree totally. Leave the people their illusions/traditions, but get the damn calls right
that line about having to take the picture every year since 03 cause Andy is always retiring is amazing! Nice one Jorge
RayVT – i think you are being sensationalist and ridiculous. it’s a matter of consistency and you can’t argue that human judgment is more consistent than even the worst broken sensors on the planet.
RayVT
I’ll take your word for it. But I’d still like to see it anyway. A machine cannot be any worse than Country Cow Turd Joe West.
Jerkface
Agreed. HP umpire would have to remain, for other calls, just balls and strikes.
Even in spite of what RayVT says, anything is better than HP umpires error and bias.
ID RATHER GO WITH THE HONOR SYSTEM. AT LEAST THEN, EVERYBODY WOULD RECOGNIZE BOSTON ATHLETES FOR WHAT THEY, CHEATERS, LIARS, SCUMBAGS
I post nowhere but read all, JJ.
Arod’s reaction to Obama’s praise of Derek Jeter brought me to the Internet. I recognized a moment of karmic harmony and decided to speak.
There is a higher presence, teaching us lessons, guiding us towards enlightenment.
It has been written…
ss Jeter
dh NJ
1b Tex
3b Alex
2b Cano
c Posada
cf Grandy
rf Swish
lf GGBG
Thanks.
Honor system for balls and strikes???
At least, then, 29 teams would be calling things fairly!
And, even better, the Orioles can call every Red Sox pitcher’s pitch a strike, and call every one of their own pitches against the Sox a ball!!!
If that’s the same Wangkee who posted on the YES boards… he is a legend. He disappeared after A-Rod signed the monster extension. I miss him… he used to always get into it with “GottaGotoMo”
Good times,
No. You just posted here, smart guy. Your wannabe “smart speak” makes you sound like an idiot. Irony for the win.
boli, boli, boli!
anybody remember the perpetrator of that brilliant line?!
Bohdi-
If you are still there.
In regards to your post about supporting JV.
I never left.
Glad to continue the support.
RayVT – it’s not like there is one camera taking all of the data for them, pitchFX data is acquired through multiple cameras and angles.
Lets talk errors and type of errors. Lets assume for a moment that Pitch FX is severely inaccurate, that it has a random error such that it puts the pitch location as off by up to 3 inches (so, a circle around the actual location, 3 inches in radius, with the reported location random distributed in there. Maybe you think it’s REALLY bad and it’s 6 inches, and while I’m sure MLB would’ve long ago fixed an error of that size, it doesn’t matter. Go ahead and say 6).
Now the error must be at least mostly randomly distributed, if it was always (or mostly) wrong in one direction, it would be obvious and would be corrected. We would see a ton more balls called on one side of the plate or the other by Pitch FX, regardless of the handedness of the batter-pitcher, etc. We don’t see that.
Given a large enough of a sample size, these errors would be drowned out in a sea of correctly made calls. You can’t really believe that a human umpire is going to produce more consistency than that. Every bad call an ump makes, and then tries to correct (emotional bias) by making another wrong call later effects the outcome of the game. At least when the system makes an error, it would be a single solitary case, not tied to any pitch before or after it, thereby not effecting the outcome of the game.
Thanks for the pictures Chad. Loved them all
Seth Everett (1050 host) on Fenway Field:
Paul (Boston)
Take her to Fenway
Seth Everett
(1:27 PM)
No way! I can’t stand that park! it’s a sardine can! and what are there exposed wires in the concourse?
If that tripe consitutes a legend, color me not impressed.
I am thee Wangkee, the one and only true Master.
It has been written…
I am a Fat Walrus – you should get a LoHud award for one of the better names on here. Can we institute a LoHud award ceremony?? Maybe we can do it during the off season to pass the time..
boli boli boli… was that John Bucergroise (sp)? or Maybe it was Berthume
I remember it was after A-Rod hit the walkoff HR against Tazawa one of the ESPN anchors was saying that during the highlights
Wangkee – After A-Rod’s postseason, you didn’t warm up to him?
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
RayVT ? i think you are being sensationalist and ridiculous. it?s a matter of consistency and you can?t argue that human judgment is more consistent than even the worst broken sensors on the planet.
I understand what you are saying. I also understand the inner workings of software and instrumentation. There are some people who believe a software issue caused the elections in Ohio to go red in 2004. The owner of the software company assured the elections before the vote and the rest is history.
As bad as it can be sometimes, I still prefer the human element with umpires. Yes I do boo them too much!!
Doreen:
Here’s my line up for the day a couple of days before our cross country drive which will keep me out for a few days starting Friday.
Jeter SS
Johnson DH
Teixera 1B
Robriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Swisher RF
Gardner LF
Thanks as always
It was John Anderson
Doreen,
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Lots of us will get this one right unless Johnson is not ready to come back.
Pat M.-
You are absolutely right in saying that it’s way too early to be dismissing the Sox but I am sure you would also agree that they have sprung a number of leaks which if not fixed will sink their ship in time.
Personally, I figure them out of the money this year unless those problems are fixed in a convincing way.
The question is, are you the “master” of your domain? Judging by the first part of your user name, I would guess not.
I understand what you are saying. I also understand the inner workings of software and instrumentation. There are some people who believe a software issue caused the elections in Ohio to go red in 2004. The owner of the software company assured the elections before the vote and the rest is history.
As bad as it can be sometimes, I still prefer the human element with umpires. Yes I do boo them too much!!
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Ok, but for your one anecdote about software being corrupt, we could talk about hundreds more incidents where humans gamed/rigged/abused a system. Do you honestly think MLB would let a balls/strike system willfully call bad balls/strikes for any extended period of time? *
*the answer is yes because they still employ umpires
muffinstump is still my favorite Lohud name
I’ve always been a Jeter guy. I still feel Arod will ride out his contract through age 43 even if he ends up unproductive for the last 5 years of the deal. I don’t think his core selfish nature has changed in that respect. I couldn’t wait to get rid of Giambi those last couple years. Imagine that feeling multiplied tenfold? I dread it. Arod milked this franchise and will continue to plunder it for all that it’s worth. The empty HR chase will be embarrassing to the Yankee brand. I will applaud his talent but he still gets a big fat asterisk in my history book.
It has been written…
Intresting fact from Jason Stark. No team that has started 4-9 has ever made the playoffs in the AL East. That would be the Red Sox he is talking about.
The very act of writing the post means it was written, you do not need to inform of us that. Also what makes you think Jeter won’t play out the contract extension he is going to get ?
Andrew April 27th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
The question is, are you the ?master? of your domain?
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SS Jeter
LF Gardner
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
DH Johnson
RF Swisher
CF Granderson
Doodling Zebra Monkeys
It has also been written….
also, and I apologize for harping on this Ray… but i’m bored… you say you “understand the inner workings of software and instrumentation”.
OK, then you are familiar with the concept of taking multiple measurements and disregarding outliers to produce reliable data. You seem to be afraid that this wouldn’t be the case. I can only ask… why? Why would they implement a flawed system to replace a flawed system?
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RayVT ? it?s not like there is one camera taking all of the data for them, pitchFX data is acquired through multiple cameras and angles.
Lets talk errors and type of errors. Lets assume for a moment that Pitch FX is severely inaccurate, that it has a random error such that it puts the pitch location as off by up to 3 inches (so, a circle around the actual location, 3 inches in radius, with the reported location random distributed in there. Maybe you think it?s REALLY bad and it?s 6 inches, and while I?m sure MLB would?ve long ago fixed an error of that size, it doesn?t matter. Go ahead and say 6).
Now the error must be at least mostly randomly distributed, if it was always (or mostly) wrong in one direction, it would be obvious and would be corrected. We would see a ton more balls called on one side of the plate or the other by Pitch FX, regardless of the handedness of the batter-pitcher, etc. We don?t see that.
Given a large enough of a sample size, these errors would be drowned out in a sea of correctly made calls. You can?t really believe that a human umpire is going to produce more consistency than that. Every bad call an ump makes, and then tries to correct (emotional bias) by making another wrong call later effects the outcome of the game. At least when the system makes an error, it would be a single solitary case, not tied to any pitch before or after it, thereby not effecting the outcome of the game.
I believe if you were to do an analysis of umpiring including balls and strikes you would find that 90 to 95% of the calls are made correct. Most instrumentation is only 95% accurate at its best. Instrumentation drifts and requires calibration. Probably a 30 day interval.
But the problem I see is not necessarily the minimum gain of electronics, but the potential to skew the software results to match a bias. These types of errors are extremely hard to find or verify. (Validation & Verification of software code)
Tom, you make some very good points, but i was just trying to identify that what you are asking for may not be perfect. Also, the noise interferrence that could induce a potential catastrophic failure type error, or a do-over! LOL!
As a side note I deal with this type of issue every day. The potential is there to do what you want. It would be expensive and problematic as well. Maintenance cost and control of the software and instruments would require extraordinary measures too.
BTW, FX is not that accurate. It isn’t even close to what would be required. And it isn’t even precise.
pat m-
so why are you apprehensive about facing the orioles ?
i haven’t looked at the match ups yet.
it’d be real nice to see hughes follow up his last gem with a solid effort.
There is nothing more noble than what these guys do for our country, and I am not talking about the Yankees.
The Sox’ pitching will get a LOT better……and they will fix their pen; they won’t be just sitting around waiting for the season to end. They’ve scored a lot of runs lately and that’s not only due to the bad bullpens of the opposing teams. If that’s the case, then we should be extremely disappointed if the Yankees don’t do the exact same thing.
Master
that AROD contract was so over the top, no other team offered anything close(or anything period) yet the Yanks still went that many years
It would be expensive and problematic as well. Maintenance cost and control of the software and instruments would require extraordinary measures too.
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The software is already in place, both for public (pitchfx) and private consumption (questec). I think you’re incorrect in your estimation of how difficult it would be, and pitchfx is accurate to within 1″
and I would wager the current umpires range from being 70 to 90% accurate. Especially when it comes to 2 strike counts and 3 ball counts. As well as outside pitches to lefties.
Randy, it’s Millwood tonight vs. Phil. Then, Guthrie and Matusz vs. CC and AJ.
I would be very happy with 3 runs in 6 innings tonight, especially in Phil’s house of horrors. I realize that he was pitching with a broken rib in 2008 and that he’s not the same pitcher now that he was even last year, but still. Let’s hope his confidence overrides any nightmarish memories he has of this park.
I am experiencing a problem with my excel program. I may have to re-enter all lineups. Please be patient with the results of today’s GTLU today.
thank you.
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Yes Tom I am! I’m bored too! Sorry! Believe me I have often pondered at how the umpiring could be better. We could go very hi tech & provide each umpire with his own replay eye or tool. I’m not against it, I just think the issues pro & con should be known before going there. As an ex-umpire in semi-pro I understand the call questions. But all in all, most of the calls are correct even after slow motion, multiple camera views and replays.
Lastly, I kind of like the human factor since the game is being played by flawed humans as well.
my main complaint is that, while some umpires are accurate, that accuracy changes depending on the game situation, lighting, mood, how much sleep they got, whether they are fighting with their wife at home… the sensory system can be wrong, but it will be wrong in an unbiased and unemotional fashion, which makes it’s errors way more acceptable to me.
and you are wrong about pitchfx, it is very accurate (within 1/2″) and very reliable… and getting more-so every day. umpires haven’t gotten better in 100 years.
Doreen-
Don’t worry. I will announce to everyone idf I win
I think I had a unique line up
RayVT – yes but the human factor should be limited to the players deciding the outcome, the rules and structure of the game are supposed to be unbiased constants, and they are currently anything but that.
nick johnson changed his number already?
hahahaha.
Ledger_Yankees As some may aleady know, Nick Johnson has changed his uniform number to 36, his original number as a Yankee.
Randy-
The pitching matchups are as follows:
PH vs. Millwood
CC vs. Guthrie
AJ vs. Matusz
I would only have a few concerns:
1 That the law of averages catches up with Orioles- They must be due to win a few. Yankees in the wrong place wrong time kind of thing.
2 That they are hungry and what better team to try and beat but the Yanks. Extra motivation.
I didn’t see this mentioned but Dioneer Navarro got suspended two games for inappropriate conduct, including bumping an umpire.
Didn’t he also get into a dugout fight with Matt Garza two years ago.
The guy must be a real hothead
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....osuspended
I already hate the O’s this year after Guthrie practically threw at Tex in ST….
Naturally, Boras (via Arod) attacked the Yankees at their purse strings.
I am drawing a blank-
What number was Johnson wearing before the switch? Was it 26???
BryanHoch Nick Johnson has changed his number from 26 to his original 36. Anything to change up a slump?
Pitching matchups are swell all around. Should be no reason to lose more than 1 game (due to homefield advantage/general baseball luck).
CC vs Guthrie, huge mismatch. Hughes vs Millwood and Burnett vs Matusz are both favorable as well.
Tom
Sorry I didn’t answer your question about why would they make a system that is flawed.
Well to be blunt everything is flawed. Multiple things doing the same thing do increase the accuracy of chosing 1 direction. If you think of it as a bell shaped curve with the outliers and inaccuracies being on 2.5% of either end of the bell curve, then you have an accuracy curve of 95% or 2 sigma. If you use multiple instruments to make sure only the right side of the bell shape curve is correct, then the left side will still be inaccurate and 5% so instead of the 2.5% normally. (This is called single-sided tolerancing or accuracy) But baseball is not a one sided call. No matter how good the equipment, it will still be inaccurate. When you add things like rain, wind, noise (EMI/RFI), and calibration errors or setup errors for mounting of equipment then you add biases as well.
i never got any answers earlier, i’ll give you guys one more shot.
does gardner do it today vs the millwood?
I am leaning towards sitting sizemore and j. upton today, and to do that I want some yankee fan vote of confidence that gardner scores 2 and steals 2 today.
Maybe NJ should wear a thong, or grow a stache.
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Tex
3B Arod
2B Cano
C Jorge
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Thank you
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MTU (aka GBURL) April 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Maybe NJ should wear a thong, or grow a stache.
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Maybe NJ should wear a Johnny Damon mask!
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 27th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
I am drawing a blank-
What number was Johnson wearing before the switch? Was it 26???
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yes
Doreen – Here is my GTLU submission
SS Jeter
DH NJ
1B Tex
3B ARod
2B Robbie Cano don’t ya know
C Jorgie
CF Granderson
RF Swish
LF GGBG
Thanks again.
Erica-
I know that would work for you but would that work for Nick.
the article I saw earlier said that the Rays don’t have a back up catcher…how can that be?
Kelly Shoppach is hurt and the backup backup is already playing
jerkface-
i wouldn’t even think about it but pat m’s instinct are pretty good.
the orioles can’t stay this bad for much longer.
if the yankees keep winning series will stay in great shape.
MTU (aka GBURL) April 27th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Erica-
I know that would work for you but would that work for Nick.
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In a truly desperate situation, he should be winning to try anything.
I will let you know when I believe we reach the desperate point
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
I like your moxy! And persistency! Who told you Pitch/FX was accurate to 1/2 inch? I am sure it isn’t. LOL! When instruments are tested to be an certain error it is just their basic reference accuracy. Over time (as little as a day or less), instrument errors drift. Temperatures effect the accuracy as well. So does EMI/RFI noise. So does humidity. Also, the actual accuracy of mounting the sensors palys a role too. Process errors and even software errors skew things as well.
LOL @ Feinsand
BloggingBombers Can Schilling please just stop talking? Nobody cares.
New to this blog and group – wow, a lot of wisdom and hilarity here!
One question – is this GTLU sponsored by the site/writers? No offense, but it takes up a lot of space in the post section, and makes scrolling through the comments with content on my iPhone a tedious, albeit annoying, affair.
Besides, isn’t the Yankees lineup one of the most consistent in all of baseball these days?? What is the margin of error, one or two players/positions? Doesn’t the contest have its own website, which begs the question as to why the “guesses” aren’t posted on that site and not this one?
I don’t get it…please advise.
Did anyone wear a pinstriped suit? Happens to be my preference.
thanks Jerkface, that makes more sense.
Tom B
go w/ GGBG
i wouldn?t even think about it but pat m?s instinct are pretty good.
the orioles can?t stay this bad for much longer.
if the yankees keep winning series will stay in great shape.
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Just by talent level, the Yankees ought to sweep, but I’m fine with just winning a series. Keep increasing the “over .500″ marker +1 each series and the team will end up with a lot of wins.
In a sport where its so easy for a bad team to win a game or two against even the best I wouldn’t be surprised if the orioles broke out of their funk a little bit, but there have been worse teams on worse winning streaks. Even this season! (pirates 0-7 outscored by like 60).
So I’m keeping good faith.
Holy cow, he’s taking it to a day 2?
Golden Thong-
GTLU is not affiliated or sposored by the blog.
Its just something played by the regulars here for fun. It helps us invoke our inner Joe Girardis.
And the line up changed almost every single day last week
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Actually umpires are much better today than they were 100 yrs ago. They go thru training and testing to make sure they know the rules. They have been trained to be in the best position for almost every situation. That said they make mistakes. There use to be unions to protect the umpires, but MLB broke the union and replaced a lot of good umpires with ones that weren’t ready. Sometimes the problem isn’t obvious. Sometimes it is.
No more Lineups.
Tyler Kepner
Minor league player Socrates Brito suspended for steroids. Shouldn’t a guy named Socrates know better?
Well thank god umpires know the rules, too bad they keep forgetting the strike zone.
Golden Thong -
As far as I know the people who operate this blog have not objected to GTLU.
There are maybe 25 lineups submitted in the space of 2 and a half hours, plus about 4 updates from me, then the results.
In total we probably take up less space than some of the longer posts here.
GTLU does not have its own website. I use a page on my own website to keep extraneous information off this blog so as not to “clog” it further.
Mark April 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Tyler Kepner
Minor league player Socrates Brito suspended for steroids. Shouldn?t a guy named Socrates know better?
Yes unless Brito means a $ s
Ray – I believe in the fact that when it comes to judgment of physical events, humans can only be so right, they can never be more right, they can only be more wrong. Whatever digital system is implemented (and i truly believe that this is inevitable) will physically be able to see things that humans cannot, percieve them at speeds that humans cannot (like the location in space of a ball traveling 90mph breaking in 2 directions) and take multiple observations of the same situation in real time. Human eyes only work so fast, and are prone to complete systemic failures such as dust, wind, blinking, taking a foul ball in the face… much like your EMI suggestion.
I guess it’s not really getting the calls wrong that bothers me so much as bias. Errors will be made and are inherent in any system, making up for a missed call, changing your strike-zone with 0-2 or 3-0 counts, changing your strike zone because a batter tried to show you up… that’s the stuff that really bothers me about human umpiring, and can be eliminated if we choose to (and if we find a digital system that works acceptably, of course).
Maybe leaving the calls in the umpire’s hands is the way to go. I doubt the 2 of us can figure out the right or wrong of that decision. I am in favor of giving them the tools (digital overlays of strike-zone data, where the system thinks the pitch went, instant replays of close calls on bases) to be successful. Be it on a heads-up-display or otherwise, it can only help in increasing the accuracy and consistency of calls.
… and I would be willing to bet that Umpires would be less inclined to “strike a guy out” or “squeeze” a pitcher if the truth (or the perception of truth) is held so close to their face.
Kay was on at end of Tierney’s show…. said the team is exhausted. They only got in at 3 AM on Sunday Night and had to wake up at 8 AM Monday and only got home at 6 PM… said don’t be shocked if they look tired tonight.
Jerkface April 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I agree Jerkface!
Here’s a quote from Socrates (the philospher, not the ball player). “By all means marry. If you get a good wife you’ll be happy. If you get a bad wife you’ll become a philospher.”
jerkface-
i’m just glad that days off and west coast trips are over and there’s a nice little 7:00 game coming up to get back into a more normal routine.
Doreen-
I have checked- the blog owners do not object to GTLU.
I specifially verified it when the game spiraled out of control last season
“Shouldn’t a guy named Socrates know better?”
Maybe he argued both sides of the question to himself both winning and losing. That would be in keeping with his name.
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Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm .
I totally agree with you! It frustrates me extremely!
Maybe he thought it was hemlock?
Tom B – The Phranchise begins in 2010. April 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
BTW, it may be a digital system, but for now the sensors would still be analog with an analog to digtial output.
i don’t take part in it , but the gtlu doesn’t seem to take up much space and the people that play it seem to like it. i remember sam, i think, praising it so i think it has approval from upstairs.
Tom NJ-
He should have consulted the Oracle before doing either don’t ya think ?
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Randy-
I checked with all of the blogmasters last season when GTLU started gaining in popularity. I told them I would stop it if it was taking over too much. They all loved it
For those that are concerned about playing the Orioles, you need to remember the bad series they had against the Nationals last year.
Some were ready to declare the season over after that and look how things turned out.
Jay April 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Kay was on at end of Tierney?s show?. said the team is exhausted. They only got in at 3 AM on Sunday Night and had to wake up at 8 AM Monday and only got home at 6 PM? said don?t be shocked if they look tired tonight.
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Good to know. Thanks Jay
New Post: Change of pace
Okay. Got the excel working (for now).
New thread
Pat M.
i don’t think it’s denial to feel that the RedSux won’t be players this season for neither the division nor the wild card.
The Yanks and the Rays barring injury are both 94+ win teams and head to head are better than the Sux who can’t beat the Rays even when they are bad and have lost 10 of 12 to the Yanks dating back to last July.
If Joe G manages that C.C. game to open the season a lil better we would have swept them.
How then can they contend for the wild card?
Dionar Navarro got suspended for 2 games and Jaso is the only other C on the 25 man….rather than make a roster move for 2 games Sean Rodriguez will be the back-up catcher.
“I have checked- the blog owners do not object to GTLU. ”
Noted. Thanks for the info.
Anyone know of an existing “Golden Thong” handle? Maybe the blog app accounts for this by validating name-to-email. I don’t want to wear anyone else’s gear, if you know what I mean.
I actually miss Schilling on the bump. Watching Roddy go deep off him at Fenway had a – oh, I dunno – majestic feel about it.
If there is any surprise at all about Schilling’s comments, it was that he didn’t mention ARod and mound-gate. I bet that A’s pitcher (the one who deserves so much respect that everyone is having trouble even remembering his name) is furiously texting him a “Schill – we need to talk” message.
“See if you can get ‘Tek and Arroyo, and that third baseman from the Jays online too. I’ve got big plans…”
RayVT – I’ll leave this convo here, good times
The only way to truly “do it right” would be an all digital system. Put sensors in the ball and around the plate I guess, but I’m leaning towards video analysis as being way more accurate. It’s less intrusive, less impact (the sensors in the ball would be literally beat to death), and video cameras don’t miss/skip frames that often these days. I didn’t mean to infer earlier that the PitchFX system is good enough to do the job yet, but it is certainly a large step in the right direction. From what I read about it (and maybe you can double check me on this) but the system is calibrated every day or every other day. 3 cameras, 3 different angles all measuring the same thing at 30 frames per second seems like a decent start, even for analog. The other poster was right, it is supposed to be accurate within an inch, and this will only improve (and improve quickly I’d imagine) over time. If they were going to actually use the system as it is for calls I think they would put higher speed cameras there anyway. Working out the kinks in their software is really the only limitation to making this work, provided enough fail-safes that you never end up with a “null” reading for a pitch.