Game 19: Yankees at Orioles
YANKEES (12-6)
Derek Jeter SS
Brett Gardner LF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Swisher DH
Randy Winn RF
RHP Phil Hughes (2-0, 2.19)
Career vs. Orioles
ORIOLES (3-16)
Adam Jones CF
Nick Markakis RF
Matt Wieters C
Miguel Tejeda 3B
Luke Scott DH
Ty Wigginton 2B
Rhyne Hughes 1B
Nolan Reimold LF
Cesar Izturis SS
RHP Kevin Millwood (0-3, 3.38)
Career vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:05 p.m./MY9
UMPIRES: HP Wally Bell, 1B Laz Diaz, 2B John Hirschbeck, 3B James Hoye
WEATHER: Light breeze that’s enough to make it feel much colder than 57 degrees. Temperatures are supposed to stay in the 50s through the game, with a very slight chance of rain (20 percent).
WINN’S IN: Randy Winn is a career .611 hitter with two home runs in 18 career at-bats against Orioles starter Kevin Millwood. He’s still looking for his first hit of the season, though he’s had only 10 at-bats. It took Mark Teixeira 18 at-bats to get his first hit, and that came more than two weeks ago.
MILESTONE WATCH: Derek Jeter needs one double to tie Don Mattingly for third place on the Yankees all-time list… Jorge Posada needs three home runs to reach 250 for his career… Mariano Rivera needs two strikeouts to tie Roger Clemens for 10th place on the Yankees all-time strikeouts list… Alex Rodriguez needs two stolen bases to reach 300 and he needs one home run to tie Frank Robinson for seventh place on baseball’s all-time list.
LOOKING TO CHANGE: Only three Orioles have more than five big league at-bats against Phil Hughes, and none has more than 14, so the sample size is small. But Nick Markakis, Adam Jones and Luke Scott — the three Orioles with the most ABs against Hughes — have hit .429, .500 and .571 against him. Markakis has 14 at-bats, Jones has eight and Scott has seven.
UPDATE, 7:44 p.m.: The Orioles haven’t been winning, but they’ve been getting pretty solid starting pitching, and Kevin Millwood looks pretty solid through two innings.
UPDATE, 7:52 p.m.: Bases loaded with one out here in the second. Big test for Hughes.
UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Hughes might have been squeezed on one of those pitches, but there’s really no reason to even come close to walking the No. 9 hitter in that situation. Hughes walks in a run and Mitre is now getting loose in the bullpen.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: Hughes defense picks him up with a big double play to end the inning. Down 1-0 after two innings, Hughes has plenty of time to get this thing turned around.
UPDATE, 8:00 p.m.: There ya go. Randy Winn has a hit. Now everyone can go back to hating Javier Vazquez.
UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: Gardner reaches first on an error and drives in the tying run in the process. Now the bases are loaded for Rodriguez with a chance to make this a big inning for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Well, Rodriguez crushed the ball, right into the glove of Miguel Tejeda.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: Robinson Cano flies out of a ball that was clearly knocked down by the moon. The Yankees will settle for a 1-1 tie after two and a half.
UPDATE, 8:27 p.m.: I’ll admit it. I was among those who wondering if we might start to see a real age-related decline in Jorge Posada’s production. So far, that hasn’t been the case at all. The guy’s been crushing the ball, and his solo home run has just put the Yankees in front 2-1 here in the fourth.
UPDATE, 9:17 p.m.: Had some internet connection issues for a while, but I seem to be back online. Just when the Yankees seemed to get a break on that Nick Swisher infield single, Jorge Posada rounded too far around second — he seemed to be thinking about third if no one went to cover the bag — and the play ended the inning. Still a 2-1 lead with Hughes going back to the mound for the sixth. Boone Logan getting loose in the pen.

UPDATE, 9:19 p.m.: Some wounded soldiers were guests of the Yankees for tonight’s game. Here’s an AP shot of Alex Rodriguez signing for Zach O’Brien.
UPDATE, 9:21 p.m.: Hughes exits after 5.2 innings to the sound of “Hugghhhhesss” from the Yankees fans behind the visiting dugout. It just feels like the start of a huge season for him. Even on a night like this, he got through 5.2 with only one run. Logan is in with Dave Robertson getting loose.
UPDATE, 9:31 p.m.: Well, Logan walked a guy and Robertson hit a guy, so things have gotten dicey. Then again, Robertson seems to be at his best when there’s a runner or two in scoring position.
UPDATE, 9:32 p.m.: Something clearly went wrong there. Not sure what happened to Winn, but that throw was just… weird. We’re now tied at 2.
UPDATE, 9:38 p.m.: Man, not a good night for Robertson. The Orioles have already taken a 4-2 lead, and they still have two on with two out. Plus the top of the order is up. Not good at all.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: Another three-hit game for Cano.
UPDATE, 10:16 p.m.: Jorge Posada’s kicking the dirt after that single scored another Baltimore run. If not for his throwing error, the runner might not have been in a position to score. It’s 5-2.





“chance of rain”
Oh. What A Surprise. Rain. Of Course.
Lets go Yankees!!!
Wally Bell behind the plate…this s/b interesting.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 27th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Erin, that’s great news; I can’t wait until my TV Guide comes.
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Just think about how excited you’re going to be when the new phone books arrive.
Patrick,
One thing we can agree on. Aceves is awesome, and his versatility is an incredibly important part of this bullpen.
I know you just started watching baseball last week so you will not know this name, but Aceves is very much Ramiro Mendoza 2k.
UGH. Wally Bell. YUCK!
Some of the guys in the pen have been erratic because they are not getting a lot of work…Which is a good thing.
So I guess you are going to act like a punk to the regulars here? Is that your act?
Makes it easier to ignore you if that’s your game.
Nope, just Patrick because of some unsavory and stupid things he said about me. I will, however, debate baseball with anyone else.
Calling you a punk, jerk, idiot, troll or a fool isn’t unsavory. It’s just “The Truth”.
Look at all those fans dressed as empty seats.
If you are going to run that act here, you will find nobody will debate with you here.
Especially since you don’t have anything terribly interesting to say.
And the Orioles are playing like their lives are on the line.
Wow. This site is in a sad state. I bet we won’t have more than 20 comments in this game threading without my help.
Let’s
i think with the familiarity that THE TRUTH has with regulars gives the clue who he is.
just think of someone like him who’s not posting .
increase
the comment count
#19
#20
Could it be the same person who posted under your name last night, randy?
We made it above 20. wooooo.
let’s talk baseball. i’m watching from my office on gameday, how’s our boy phil look?
Bottom of the 1st at scranton
After hirsh walked 1, he got the next 3 in the top of the inning
Russo walk
Curtis single
Nunez grounds into Dp
Winfree flies out to right
High pitch count for Hughes again
What a joke this is. William Shatner has decided to put his managing shoes on.
He’s got Jones in the leadoff, Mark in the 2 spot, and Wieters in the 3 spot.
Against the Sox, they played Lou Monanez (sp?).
Nice to see William Shatner came to win tonight!!!!!!
hughes is hitting a consistant 92-93 MPH early. Nice start.
Where was that pitch?
Wally Bell’s strikezone sucks.
Changeup would have been great.
My goodness, the ballpark is empty! And with the Yankees playing!
This team swung through utter slop by the Red Sox, and the pitch by Hughes there wasnt that bad, and Wieters just spit on it.
This reminds me of the early days of this blog … you know when Pete just started it and only 10 would show up for the games.
Hughes’ fastball?
: “Giddy-up!”
the wide zoom on my tv screen just made the on deck batter look like that midget I saw on the Amazing Race sunday night. lol
That was ball 4
The ball was outside.
GreenBeret7,
reduced to name calling are you? guess that is an admission that you are wrong.
so trolling to you guys is raising points that you guys disagree with but are nonetheless right.
Interesting.
I never posted under another name, so you can stop inferring that. The only thing I did was raise the point that the whole NJ/Matsui thing was dumb, and a bunch of people got all upset.
For such a “dead” issue, the response was very telling.
randy l. April 27th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
i think with the familiarity that THE TRUTH has with regulars gives the clue who he is.
just think of someone like him who’s not posting .
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Hey…that’s BS. I’m still posting.
Phil seems a little amped tonight judging by his stuff. Think he wants to put that last start in Camden behind him?
Listening to the easy on the ears and easy on the eyes Jim Palmer and not so easy on the ears broadcasting partner.
Nicky had an outside pitch called a strike, and Palmer made a comment that it’ll be a long night for the Orioles if Hughes gets that call all night.
Then they bring it up again on that ball 4 to Wieters. Alluding to the fact that they Wieters was a catcher and that could’ve had something to do with it. But to me, the two pitches in questions were completely different. Wieters didn’t even cross the plate.
Nice catch by Grandy!
NICE CATCH!!
Grandy!
nice play curtis!
nice grandy
Nice recovery by Granderson there.
Joe in LI –
I wouldn’t have expected too many NYers there mid-week.
Wind blowing in from left at 15 MPH. flies have no chance of going anywhere unless they are low line drives
No Lou Montanez for us! Thanks Shatner!
Jays have a 1-0 lead against Buchholz. And they have Marcum on the mound, who can actually be trusted to possibly hold a lead.
in lieu of witness protection in Canada, they just buy you a seat at the Rogers Centre.
No one will see you there.
And the hits just keep on coming!
Jays leading 1-0. Bucholz doesn’t appear to be very sharp. Only the first inning.
I’m thinking I will watch more of this game than the Yankee game. I don’t want to see the Orioles get slaughtered. (That’s the Mother Theresa in me)
God I hate how they break down Curtis and his jumps.
I have no idea what the strike zone is going to be tonight.
That second strike to Markakis was not a strike. But Bell gave hughes the call. At that point, I kinda started thinking that this would be a very long game for the O’s if Bell gives hughes that call.
Then in the Wieters at bat hughes goes to that same pitch on 3-2 and it’s a ball.
Then Bell gives Hughes a very high strike to Tejada who takes very few pitches.
Hughes stuff looks very good. If Bell allows Hughes to expand the zone he is going to cut through the O’s rapidly.
I woulda thought about coming up from Virginia Beach, Doreen [except I am working in Portland, Oregon, for the summer].
Phil does look amped up tonight. Gameday has fastball at 93,94. Looks like lots of movement on it.
“And the Orioles are playing like their lives are on the line. ”
Well, kind of they are.
CB,
I think its because he was missing the glove a lot that at bat.
That ball was in the other batter’s box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY are trying to steal away Robi’s new found patience!!!!!!!!!
Robbie is on fiya
We didnt get cost the baserunner.
Chuck 58
One of the first things I do when the schedule comes out is check when the Yankees are in B’more. This year I don’t think they’re in for a weekend.
What a low rocket by Cano.
the only chance the O’s have at winning a game in this series is if their starters can give them 7+ innings.
If the Yanks get into that bullpen for 3+ innings, it’s going to be big trouble for Baltimore.
That said, get Millwood’s pitch count up.
Even when Cano was hot in the past his at bats have never been this good.
Doreen I don’t know if you saw my earlier post but your picture reminds me so much of That Girl! Have you ever been told that you look like her?
Robbie C continues to look locked in at the plate.
Wally Bell is calling the ball in the right-hand hitters batter’s box.
unfortunately, he’s not calling it consistently.
is calling balls and strikes really that hard?
Michael Kay does a pretty good John Sterling.
Come on Jorgie, juice one!
Carl-
It could be, but if bell’s is varying his zone that much based on control on an at bat to at bat basis then there isn’t going to be much of a zone.
This inning he gave that same outside pitch to Millwood on Cano for a strike and he didn’t give it to Millwood earlier.
30 homeruns and over 100 rbis for cano this year, no doubt
It seems like the ump can’t decide if the pitch on the outside corner is a strike or not.
hardwired
It’s not hard at all. What they do is intentional.
Good point, Doreen. I’d have been happy to catch SWB coming out to Waterfront Park, but not in town for that, either. Got Padres farm out here…
And Wheels Posada beats the rap on the DP
I cannot believe that I followed that last stupid thread like it was the end of a book. You write well Truth but the content was boring.
The Mutts are on MLB so I would appreciate an updated score when possible.
Thanks all
Trisha -
I saw it. My response? Maybe before she had her nose job!
I love Marlo Thomas. She’s not as in the public eye as she used to be, though.
Curtis looks caught in between.
Curtis Granderson is so useless — almost like Mark Teixeira.
Curtis looking a lot like Melky lately…
We’re just forced to swing at pitches in the opposing batter’s box.
Thanks Wally Bell.
I hope Hughes brought his A+ game.
Grandy and Tex… can’t wait until they catch fire [and they will].
“Could it be the same person who posted under your name last night, randy?”
tomi in nj-
not sure about that, but i think it will become obvious who it as as he keeps talking.
i know who i think it is but i’ll wait until he lets more out.
my guess if people start looking at his writing style and grammatical pattern, knowledge of individual posters ,and as i said who’s not posting, it’ll become apparent who he is.
of course , he’ll probably fade away as it becomes too obvious who he is.
“Grandy and Tex… can’t wait until they catch fire [and they will].”
And as it is, the yankees still lead the AL in OPS.
When this offense really starts to click it is going to be phenomenal.
They’re scoring around 5.2 runs per game and their All Star 1b is pretending to be a sub-replacement level player.
It’s been a long road trip and only 6 home games in the first 23 games.
They’ll pick it up when they get home. Just need to close out the road trip strongly.
The tall solsier in the middle of the picture just shown on MY9 and in the earlier picture has had a lot of facial reconstruction from burns, the way it looks.
Maybe had Luke Scott gotten one or two professional hits this weekend against the Sox, maybe the Orioles could have swept the Sox.
The tall ***soldier in the middle***
Doreen, I think you are gorgeous. I would kill for your eyes. Are you 100% Italian? If so I think you definitely have northern Italian relatives! Also, very nice blog.
How are things looking in Baltimore? I’m staying in Toronto.
GB7-
I think the soldier pictured on the blog in the photo where Jeter was signing the cap did also.
Amazing what they must have gone through.
a lot of foul balls off of Hughes
Anybody read Boston Only’s (Buster Olney) insider article on the Howard contract, in which his main focus is on the Red Sox.
WHERE WAS THAT PITCH????
Doreen, Very striking photo, I immediately thought of Caroline Kennedy…….Need to turn 2
Bell is all over the place.
Pitch number 5 was right down the middle.
Phil looks frustrated with the zone.
Paging Wally Bell: Pitch #5 was a strike.
Brett Gardner just hit a HR off me in MLB 2K10.
I feel dirty.
This is BS. 2 out of 3 starts he gets squeezed
Randy-
I assure you I did not post under your name last night, or for that matter under any name other then THE TRUTH.
I raised one point about Nick Johnson/Matsui, and right away people started with JERK TROLL or YOU POSTED UNDER MY NAME LAST NIGHT. Haha. I just made a simple post, and if anything was looking for some meaningful debate when I saw some responses.
The ump is squeezing him.
Cost us a baserunner. The ball may previous may have been low, but it was called a strike for millwood.
Hughes command is off some. He’s missing spots.
hughes needs to mix it, not just fastball. where that change up
That pitch to Wiggington was right down the middle of the plate for strike 3. Bell blows the call and the next pitch is a hit.
Tough night with this strikezone.
ahh the plight of a young pitcher….a twisty road
It seems like this is going to be one of those games where Hughes runs up a really high pitch count early. We saw this often last season when he can’t put guys away after 2 strikes.
As an aside, Marcum got jobbed on a pitch that would have been strike 3, and then of course, Hermida got a hit. Big fatso scored from 2nd. 1-1. He’s gotten a bit more svelte since he stopped with the milkshakes.
Oh, well, what the hell, getting cheated by Wally Bell.
Hughes retires Hughes.
THE TRUTH: Wally boy’s strike zone sucks.
“That pitch to Wiggington was right down the middle of the plate for strike 3. Bell blows the call and the next pitch is a hit.
Tough night with this strikezone.”
Same thing just happened in Toronto (obviously not with Wiggington). That’s the really frustrating part of umpire error. It definitely can change the course of the game.
trisha
Such is life!
How do you think the Red Sox compete with the Yankees every year for the division, since they are a small market team?
Umpires! Calls here, calls there, runs here, runs there!
Look at the Orioles taking pitches. SICK!
Hughes command is off. He’s getting under his pitches.
That said, it’s very difficult to be efficient with your pitches when there isn’t much of a strike zone.
What the hell!? Pitches 1 and 2 to Reimold. Clearly strikes on Gameday.
Jorge, leave your glove down for a second or two
Like CB says, when the Yanks get firing on all cylinders, it will be an awesome thing to behold. Take pictures. Video, even. Pitchers will be quaking as Bomber Bats be wakin’…
GB, It appears that Hughes is going with hard stuff the first time around the lineup….Few breaking balls
Of course against the loser O’s Hughes isn’t sharp.
I just got back from dinner so I haven’t seen any of the game, but it sounds like Phil is being squeezed. I said I’d be happy with 3 runs in 6 innings and I meant it. At least his stuff seems good – I guess it’s pretty cool in Baltimore, so I wouldn’t expect his velocity to be greate.
Hughes is not staying on top of his fastball.
I JUST CANT BELIEVE THE ORIOLES HAVE COME TO PLAY TODAY. TAKING PITCHES.
They must have been alerted not to swing by Bell.
Reimold just went 5 pitches without swining. Didnt do that once versus the Sox.
Why the heck are the O’s taking so many pitches??
CB April 27th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
GB7-
I think the soldier pictured on the blog in the photo where Jeter was signing the cap did also.
Amazing what they must have gone through.
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I’ve seen the work that they do at Walter Reed and Randolph AF Base in San Antonio. Those doctors and the soldiers themselves are amazing. I wasn’t paying a lot of attention to the Jeter picture, but, a stupid comment made on the other page, is what made me respond to this one. Never had severe burns like that, but, burns are the most painful injuries you can get in the foeld.
# RS April 27th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Why the heck are the O’s taking so many pitches??
Hes nowhere close.
Are you kidding me?!? Pitch #5 again a strike. Unless gameday is wrong he got squeezed for 3 pitches that at-bat.
Hughes said get off my mound.
Hughes isn’t even repeating his delivery well right now.
The O’s just seem like a tough matchup for him and he clearly doesn’t like this park….Hopefully he can just get around and not blow up.
“(That’s the Mother Theresa in me)”
if you’re Mother Theresa
i’m Mahatma Randhi
hughes is imploding
Is it just me, with this strike zone? Randy, SJ, somebody?
Terrible
Aww, poor Phil – seems like this will be a short outing for him.
so how we doin?
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 straight pitches taken!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheated on the 2-0 count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOHOOO!!
Izturis?? Really?
Hughes’ mechanics are an absolute mess out there right now.
He can’t throw strikes. Not good.
These are non-hitters he’s walking.
Time to get Mitre and Ace up.
He’s not long for this game.
I can’t watch the game right now- what happened?
Pat M – Caroline Kennedy, good call!
WOW!!!!
A STRIKE!!!
That was pathetic. To the #9 hitter who isn’t hitting. This could be the game right if he doesn’t limit the damge.
Hughes is getting under his pitches but there really is nowhere to throw it but down the middle…seriously.
He needs to limit the damage.
Sigh – well, I guess this is what we have to expect from young pitchers.
big dp
Sweet!!!
CC had a bad inning too
Did Eiland come out?
His mechanics are a mess because hes GETTING CHEATED, and he’s RATTLED.’
YEAH. TAKE THAT WALLY BELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. Wacky 10 pitch stretch there for Hughes.
both pitchers were squeezed. hughes was all over the place. and why did alex swing at the first pitch? trust me, get to the o’s pen early.
Joe-
The strike zone is bad but that’s not the fundamental problem. Hughes just is throwing the ball very poorly.
He got the DP to get out of the inning – let’s hope he finds his release point next inning.
And scoring some runs would be nice.
Ok!
That was a huge play for Hughes. Hopefully he goes back to the dugout now and gets it together with Eiland.
Something is clearly off when you walk Izturis on 4 pitches with the bases juiced
Nice job getting out of it. But if he doesn’t improve a ton he will be out of this game very soon.
# Paul April 27th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
CC had a bad inning too
Finished the game around 98 pitches though
Looks like he’s over adjusted from pitching high to pitching low. At least , he’s trying to make the change instead of pumping fastball after fastball in the same place. He’s learning.
Nice pitch, nice recovery on the DP.
Lots of pitches but only 1 run. Could have been worse.
how bout the hitters take advantage of the crappy o’s.
It will be very impressive if Hughes goes out there and puts up a solid outing after that.
Joe,
the strikezone is bad but, the walks to Reimold and Izturis were all on Phil.
Those pitches weren’t close.
He has to settledown and relax. If not, he gets pulled.
It’s the ups and downs of young pitchers.
The Orioles, who hammered Red Sox pitching, never took 10 straight pitches versus them.
Here they are against us, taking 10 straight pitches.
Hail Mary was answered…….That come backer shook up the lad somewhat…….He is overthrowing, I’m surprised Jorge hasn’t called for more curveballs to get Hughes back in rhythm
isn’t dave eiland supposed to be a great pitching coach – how do you go from a near no hitter to this? simply pathetic
Phil has to get some credit for not blowing up – this is the kind of thing a young pitcher has to learn. I wonder why his mechanics are so off?
well 1 run and its time to send hughes to the minors…boy, people have NO patience…..obviously hes not on his game today but geez
Very fortunate there…hopefully Phil can regroup and give them a few more innings. This is what you’d expect from Phil this year, he’s not going to take no hitters into the 8th every time out..
If the Yanks can push 1 or 2 across here then that would be great.
The offense needs to give Hughes a breather.
He’ll be fine the next inning. But here is a game where he could start throwing that change-up.
Could’ve been worse. He really lost it there. Palmer was pretty gracious there. “Been here, done that”
The pitches aren’t close. That’s why they are taking them.
It’s not a conspiracy.
Remember how young Phil is. Let’s give him time to find his rythym. At least we held them to a single run.
Um, perhaps because Phil is 23 years old? Fans are just going to have to live with this kid’s growing pains if they want to see him develop into a great pitcher.
Do people here really think the umps are against the Yanks?
if winn cant get around on millwood’s fastball, he isnt going to play much here.
So far this year Hughes has given up twice as many walks as hits…
His mechanics are off because I have him starting in my fantasy league
the zone is small for the o’s too. millwood got squeezed in the first.
Thats outside. Ball 4
Palmer likes Phil and also I think Palmer knows that every pitcher, young or old, has problems like that. The Oakland game was in a way a bad thing because now people expect him to pitch like that all the time.
take another.
Winn!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS. its like a homerun.
Wally Bell, has that stinky smell, the Red Sox tell.
Millwood got squeezed? thats a laugh
win for winn
Was it just that inning or was he bad earlier?
Are they going to save the baseball? lol
How is it the pitching coach’s fault?
Sometimes, the children on here are really funny.
Randy Winn dedicates that stroke to Jerkface…
The Yankees should (key word “should”) score several runs off Millwood. If Hughes can settle in and give them some length then he still should have a good chance to win this game..
Winn with the base hit….boy Girardi is a moron….lol
no dp no dp no dp no dp
“Umpires! Calls here, calls there, runs here, runs there!”
I’m with you CR9 and it’s an absolute disgrace. Where’s the joy in watching a game when the home plate umpire is screwing up royally? Legitimate game? No way. When the home plate umpire becomes the 10th player, it’s a travesty to the teams and to the sport.
I still harken back to the blown call at home plate by McLelland that sent the Padres home (as opposed to a possible trip to the postseason).
While I love the human element of the game at this point I am ready to have an automatic balls and strikes detector behind home plate. I am totally serious. This pathetic game calling and floating strike zone is absolute BS.
a fine start for Heridia inTampa. 3 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts
Wow.
You guys are making me blush. Bad pictures of me never see the light of day, they are immediately purged!
Trisha -
Half Italian, quarter Hungarian, quarter some kind of anglo-saxon. My father’s family settled in Maine with names like Caleb and Silas (fought in Rev. War). My mom’s dad had blue eyes – he was full Italian, but I’m not sure where in Italy his parents were from. I always called myself a mutt!
Oops. I missed Baltimore’s run being scored. Well, at least the pressure is off Hughes to be perfect.
And Randy Winn! Good going. Let’s get the run back here!
wasn’t Wally Bell on Nixon’s ‘enemies list’?
if not, he should have been.
THE TRUTH-
ok if you say so.
patrick is a solid poster so you didn’t win any fans if you wanted meaningful debate as you say you do.
millwood’s pitch count it rising. hello o’s pen!!!
If the Yankees don’t score here, at least get Milwood’s pitches up. Getting into the O’s bullpen is key.
Fair AB to Jeter. Nice job getting the runners over.
as good as a bunt…
gardner should take 2 strikes. pitch count up.
Thats a strike????????????
Gardner AB
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Strike (borderline)
Nice job Brett!
nice enough.
Yankees-1 Midgets-1
Well, that was because of Gardner’s speed, I guess, that he had no play after the error.
wooooooooo!
Let me know when Hughes gets a borderline call
Cheap but, we will take it!
Time for Tex to get hot.
“Fair AB to Jeter. Nice job getting the runners over.”
Wally Bell has been awful for both teams.
And unfortunately his terrible floating zone had a very negative impact on Jeter’s at bat. The only reason he swung at the pitch outside before the one he grounded to first was because he was uncertain whether the pitch would be called a strike even though it was outside.
They’ll take it.
come on tex…. please start hitting.
because when a 23 year old pitcher walks the 8th and 9th guys in the lineup who are hitting .184 and .235 on 8 pitches (one with the bases loaded) maybe the coach should go out there and tell him to get his head out of his bleep.
isn’t it past your bedtime – don’t granpa’s go to bed at 7:00
As long as he tied the game, I don’t care about the error/hit call.
I speak the truth, Randy. I would never do something like that.
still stunned that tex has the lowest avg in the AL. and nick is 2nd.
say what you will about Gardner but he puts a ton of pressure on defenses. He causes lots of errors to be made.
That’s a great example of why this opposite field slap swing Gardner is using this year fits his game perfectly.
Tejada couldn’t make that play because he was playing close to the grass with Gardner at the plate. Just another minor thing that Gardner’s speed brings into play.
Teixeira AB
Fair Ball
Swinging Strike
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Nice job Mark!
“You guys are making me blush. Bad pictures of me never see the light of day, they are immediately purged!”
Been there, do that.
Hughes needs to look at this as a 0-0 game now and just start over.
Why do the Yanks forget the count here. Posada did it twice in one game last year. Now Tex lol
stop swinging at the first pitch!!!!!!!
someone tell him to leave the bat on his shoulder until 2 strikes.
if thats posada running on gardners hit…it richochets off the 3rd baseman and he is thrown out by the SS?…posada is still the man though lol
“still stunned that tex has the lowest avg in the AL. and nick is 2nd.”
Tex always gets off to bad starts but this has been the worst he has ever started a season.
I don’t understand why it is so difficult for an umpire to be consistent. It is difficult for hitters and pitchers when the strike zone is whimsical. It totally colors the game. For both teams, obviously.
I’m home!!!!!!!!!
Doreen-
I always tried to make it look easy
60 pitches.
He couldn’t go out there moron because he had already been to the mound that inning. If he went out there again, he would have had to take him out.
If you are going to be an idtiotic little twerp, at least know the rules.
man he crushed that
Rodriguez AB
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Nice Try Alex! Should have been a hit.
ugh
sno cone
Tough luck for Alex.
Hopefully RISP machine Cano can come through.
Can’t do much more than smoke a rocket. good at bat, thoughi
ahh got lucky, come on cano
cano is the guy to have up….
Man – bad break there. ARod smoked that.
Alex absolutely smoked that ball. If Tejada has to move even a step he probably doesn’t make the play cleanly.
worst case the pitch count it really high now.
I’m calling a home run here by Robbie
Can’t do anything but hit it hard…bad luck.
just saw john daly throw out a pitch before a taped game to the phillies in spring training.
wow, the guy has a live arm.
Erica’s Avengers are in a slump
CB/blake/Pat M/SJ/GB, are you puzzled why Phil hasn’t thrown any change ups (apparently)? I hope that he really believes in that pitch and didn’t just pay lip service to it in order to win the #5 spot.
yankees dont hit a lot of grand slams.
Shucks.
Cano AB
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Just missed it.
just missed that
Robbie just got under that
Just missed it.
just missed it. right down the middle.
Whether the Yankees score anymore or not they have given Hughes a chance to catch his breath and regroup…hopefully it helps him.
close but no cigar
at least we are almost guaranteed the oriole pen by the 7th.
wow if there was ever a swing that just missed, it was that one….
CR9-
What on earth are you doing?
Cano just got under that. He just missed it.
Tough inning. Alex squared Millwood up and it turned into an at-em ball.
Cano just misses a grand slam.
That said – they really ran Millwood’s pitch count up and it looks like they have him figured out the second time through.
They will break through against him.
Phil needs to just settle down, relax and pound the zone. This is still his game to command
Erica, fantasy advice was to pick up Wade Davis. Two starts this week, gonna be an ace. Well it sure was fantasy advice!
The good news for everybody else is that he will probably help Oakland beat the Rays tonight! Meanwhile one of my pitchers was put on the DL today.
Good thing I have strong shoulders to hold up the rest of the league.
Erica -
That’s why you’re the Queen of GTLU!
Miranda gives Scranton a 1-0 lead with a homer to right field. Montero grounded out and is 0-1 with a walk. End of 4 innings
Hirsh, 4 innings, 9 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeouts
phil could use a fast inning. throw strikes and make them hit.
cano got a cookie and he missed it
Hughes still doesn’t have it together. He does not look good out there at all.
Trisha-
I have Sheets going for Oakland tonight. So far, its not very pretty
And no one is hitting
No fastball command so far tonight.
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Erica -
That’s why you’re the Queen of GTLU!
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Awww, thanks Doreen. But if I am the Queen, you are certainly the Princess!!!
I am still totally blown away by your website and saviness
CB, I couldn’t watch the game, so forgive me if this is a silly question, but: when a pitcher loses command like Phil apparently did (and he’s known for his control), are bad mechanics to blame? If so, then those are fixable (well not necessarily in this game). If it’s not always mechanics, then what would cause a loss of command?
the o’s announcers are complaining about wally bell too…
SAS,
1-1– bottom 3rd.
Betsy, not confused about Hughes control issues. He just can’t get zeroed in on the strike zone tonight.
Markakis AB
Swinging Strike
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Cheap Strike
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Yes!
What could cause this to happen to Phil? Is it just that he’s a young pitcher? I’d rather see him get tatooed than have him lose control like this…
Betsy, not confused about Hughes control issues. He just can’t get zeroed in on the strike zone tonight.
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well there isnt a strike zone so everyone is confused.
Thats a pretty good sign there hopefully..he had to throw Markakis 4 straight strikes and did so.
Wieters AB
Fair Ball
Nice quick AB!
good stuff. time to settle now.
That fastball to Weiters was his best located fastball of the night.
I’m telling myself that this is just what happens with young pitchers so that I don’t start worrying, lol
Betsy-
Yes it’s often mechanics. Phil’s release point is usually the size of a dot. Tonight his release point has varied significantly. On some pitches he’s opening his front shoulder early. On others it looks like he’s staying closed to long and yanking the pitch.
Very unlike how Hughes usually throws. He usually repeats his delivery with great precision.
Most important thing is that he’s escaped so far. Hopefully he can settle down and figure things out.
His fastball isn’t great tonight in terms of command. He should try throwing more cutters.
hes starting to find his release point…if (big if) he comes back and has a descent-good start after that second inning then that would be pretty impressive.
what a joke
uhhh he went.
Thats a swing.
now he has to throw all these extra pitches
He went. Lax Diaz blew that call.
getting 6 max from phil tonight. phil has drawn some real lousy umps this year.
2 extra pitches and counting
hughes needs to throw his curve
Where’s the curveball?
Hughes was much better this inning, but, still not right. As long as he can “veteran” his way through this game, it’s a good sign. A lot of foul balls and not many swing and misses tonight.
nice….
i think gardner has made the case for no more thames in the field. i think thames will be platooning more with NJ than Brett now.
Tejada AB
Fair Strike
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Fair Ball (borderline check swing)
Foul Ball
Foul Ball I have to go through every one of Tejada’s ABs versus the Sox in his career, because aint fouled off this many balls versus them
Fair Ball
Nice Catch Brett! Tejada was probably saying to himself all AB, “This isnt the Red Sox, this isnt the Red Sox! I must get the best AB possible”
Outfield defense…much better inning from Hughes. After the first 3 balls to Markakis he threw a lot of strikes that inning.
Now lets score some runs.
CB, then that can be fixed – even if it’s not in that game. I know it happens even to veterans, even CC. The question is, why do mechanics go screwy? I guess if we had an answer to that, no one would ever pitch a bad game.
I would love it if Phil could end up even going 5 and having a decent outing; this is all part of the education of pitcher. I just hope he can settle down…
Hughes cannot blow his fastball by people most of the time. I think he should use his changeups more often.
Erica, it could be that neither of our pitchers will be the pitcher of record anyway. Wade Davis has 66 pitches already and it’s only the third inning. Acan nd so far he’s earned me -2.
Meanwhile, imagine having the 2nd best closer in the majors and having no points because his team can’t win any games.
Who knew.
I too was happy about head-to-head as opposed to rotisserie because of the time constraints. But where rotisserie is superior is that you can pick up players for your DLd players and you change your players (add and drop included) on a daily basis.
Erica
Im getting my anger out about the umpires in a way not detrimental to others (or at least Im trying!). And documenting the fair and cheap calls for each team.
For a moment there I thought it would take Hughes at least 70 pitches to just get tejada out.
In his entire career, has Hughes ever gotten a guy out with 1 or 2 pitches after getting ahead 1-2, 0-2?
blake-
He did progressively get better over the course of that inning. He looks like he’s fighting himself out there.
His fastball has good life but he’s all over the place. Even on outs he’s missing spots. He just has enough life to prevent them from really squaring the ball up.
But that inning he started looking better at the end of the frame compared to the beginning.
The strike zone or lack there of isn’t helping. Nor did the bad call on the “check swing.”
He might be overthrowing it, but his cutter has a lot of bite.
Trisha-
Ben Sheets
We are -6 so far for this outing.
Hopefully Greinke can save the day for me on KC
they insist on swinging at the first pitch.
GB, I would be very, very happy with Phil if he could gut it out for 5 (I don’t know what his pitch count is). I always remember Roger saying that it’s easy to pitch when you have your great stuff, but that he got more satisfaction from gutting through games when he didn’t have good stuff.
Jorge is a marvel
see. take the first, homer the second.
Posada!
Posada AB
Foul Ball
YES! HR POSADA!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I ♥ Posada
Hip Hip
38 years old and still one of the quickest left handed bats around
Jorge…is hammering the ball this year!
On behalf of the Management of Erica’s Avengers-
Thank you Jorge Posada for being a solid citizen!!!
Granderson AB
Cheap Strike
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Nice try Grandy!
I watch Posada swing a bat and I still just can’t get over it.
It’s like watching something that doesn’t compute.
His swing is just unbelievable. He’s almost 38. He’s a catcher. And he has a beautiful swing and tremendous hands.
Think about what he just did. He was out there squating for a very long inning where Hughes had to work to get through it. He had to coax hughes through several tough at bats – especially the Tejada at bat.
Then the following inning he is still able to just turn on the ball and almost effortlessly drive it out of the park.
“38 years old and still one of the quickest left handed bats around”
it really is…that ball was just murdered.
Swisher AB
Fair Ball
Foul Ball
Damn it Nick! Work his pitch count!
Johnson, Granderson and Vazquez have not looked too good so far. Hope they can improve as the season goes on.
I do not understand the throwing the ball back thing.
Just give the ball to one of the hundreds of kids in the park dying to bring one home.
Erica – Jorge De La Rosa out until at least late May. He’s been my bread and butter pitcher other than Andy.
austin jackson batting average = ?
curtis granderson batting average = ?
*pinches* Erica.
I wonder if Phil just got frustrated with the umpire, and let it bother him too much.
Winn AB
Foul Ball
Fair Strike (borderline low)
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Nice Catch by Tejada.
Angel – In an Empire State of Mind April 27th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
*pinches* Erica.
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Ouch!
What did I do to deserve a pinch????
I don’t get why he refuses to use the change – or why Jorge isn’t callling it. I suspect that, despite what he said in ST, he’s not confident in it whatsoever. Eiland said in ST that, previously, it was like pulling teeth to get Phil to throw it. Then again, maybe he just feels he has no feel for any pitches tonight; it sounds like he’s not even throwing his curve.
risha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 27th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Erica – Jorge De La Rosa out until at least late May. He’s been my bread and butter pitcher other than Andy.
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Ouch!!!! Sorry to hear that
Although, if it makes you feel any better right now your team is beating mine
Nothing, really. Its a friendly pinch to welcome you home.
Thanks Bronx Jeers, I thought that was the score, but I wasn’t certain.
It would be easy to think it was O’s 2, Yankees 1 the way some people are posting on here, SAS.
That was a strike!!
Angel – In an Empire State of Mind April 27th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Nothing, really. Its a friendly pinch to welcome you home.
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Oh!!!!!
My grandma used to pinch. If she pinched you it was not friendly. LOL
qiantom, Granderson was really good starting off the season. Sometimes bats go cold.
this home is on crack
“Think about what he just did. He was out there squating for a very long inning where Hughes had to work to get through it. He had to coax hughes through several tough at bats – especially the Tejada at bat.
Then the following inning he is still able to just turn on the ball and almost effortlessly drive it out of the park.”
It really is remarkable. Ortiz is 4 years younger and doesn’t play a position and still the bat speed has noticeably disappeared. Jorge is a freak of nature.
Wally Bell continues to suck.
meant to say home ump on crack
Change! Come on!
Austin Jackson has struck out 39% of all his at bats this season. That is mind boggling.
His BABIP is .520.
There is simply no way his batting average is going to be sustainable.
His .325 batting average is a function of a small sample effect.
You can’t strike out 40% of the time and hit like his batting average suggests over the long haul.
Where in the world was that 0-2 pitch?
trenton losing 1-0. Phelps through 5 innings, 5 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts.
Romine with a double
Carl-
I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t know, Carl……….more ST fluff?
Wally Bell is just terribly inconsistent.
You cannot even adjust to him because he is all over the place.
if you’re going to break out the change….now is a good time.
LOL. I’ll bet. Those kind of pinches are usually on the cheek or something, and they ARE unpleasant.
Mine was a friendly one, I promise. I have great respect for the SSM.
This AB should have been over in 3 pitches, and now it’s dragging on
This is the type of game when Phil isn’t going to get by solely with the fastball/curve without getting foul balled to death. He needs to mix in a change or two, he really does.
I don’t know if Jorge’s not calling it or Phil refuses to throw it, but if it’s the latter, Eiland has to talk to him about it.
Scott AB
Fair Strike
Foul Ball
Fair Ball (borderline)
Foul Ball
Foul Ball This Orioles team is unbelievable. They are just fouling balls off to drive up his pitch count
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Ball This is unbelievable. Taking pitches and foul balls
Fair Ball
0-2 to 4-2. hughes needs to figure out how to settle down when he doesnt get the call.
From a strikeout to a walk. Love this ump!
Hughes is just fighting himself out there and getting frustrated.
He didn’t get the call and then overthrew 3 straight pitches.
Have the guy struck out, gets rattled, and walks him.
His youth showed on that AB.
Boy, this is a discouraging outing.
Erica, it doesn’t make me feel any better. I’m only competitive with myself, if you know what I mean. I’d like to see my teams do well but not at anybody else’s expense.
So what do I do with De La Rosa? I guess I could sit him and have him be a permanent reserve until he’s back in the game.
Wigginton AB
Nice quick AB! Puke Scott was running his very hardest.
man, that DP would have been huge.
yes the ump sucks but hughes needs to keep it together.
Angel – In an Empire State of Mind April 27th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
LOL. I’ll bet. Those kind of pinches are usually on the cheek or something, and they ARE unpleasant.
Mine was a friendly one, I promise. I have great respect for the SSM
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The cutter isn’t their. The curve looks ok. Fastball missing. Try the change up please. 5 lefties including the switch hitters.
Tex needs to make that pick. His pitcher is out there struggling and they get a chance at two.
Tough play but he’s an elite defensive 1b and that’s the kind of play elite defenders need to make.
Very uncharacteristic failure at the DP attempt
well cano didn’t with the base juice, now his bad throws cost hughes a double play
on a side note, buchholz seems to own the orioles and blue jays. too bad he doesnt own any other team in the AL.
Phil cannot establish the strikezone on the rightside of the plate ( from the position of the mound )
Hughes AB
Cheap Strike
Foul Ball
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Strike
Nice K!
Nice curve
Finally a call!
so we will get 5 from phil.
do we see ace or mitre after that?
hughes just k by hughes looking
“Boy, this is a discouraging outing.”
not really for me…its expected. Actually to me its encouraging that he’s pitched so poorly and still is up 2-1 in the 4th. The mark of a good pitcher is keeping your team in the ballgame even when you pitch bad.
Do you know what Cano’s problem was on turning that DP?
He actually touched the bag, unlike most second basemen.
and on top of hitting the homer he’s right down behind first backing up the way a good catcher should on the throw that went by teixeira.
a lot of catchers, even young ones, wouldn’t have been that far down there.
Blake, that’s true………and I had said that before. I give Phil credit for that. What I’m discouraged about is the fact that he won’t throw the change…
lucky i think he was safe easily.
Reimold AB
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Cheap call at 2nd base in our favor to end the inning! No, not a cheap call. He was out.
Way too close for comfort.
He was safe ha
Banger at 2nd goes to the Yanks ??????
Betsy,
this is not a discouraging outing. It’s all part of learning how to be successful at the ML level.
They aren’t all going to be masterpieces. Sometimes, you have to grind and he’s grinding tonight.
I would argue, that’s a GREAT thing to see.
Hey look-
A call appears to have gone the Yankee way. Do we still bash the umpire for being horribly unfair??
i”Boy, this is a discouraging outing.”
Bets, I’m not watching because I really don’t want to watch this series. But no matter how he’s pitching tonight, remember his other outings. Every pitcher is going to have a stinker at some point. The important thing is that he learns from any mistakes, and you know he will.
It’s seldom that Cano doesn’t make the turn on the double play. nice back up on the play by Posada.
I dont see anything discouraging about this item.
He did not/has not imploded. He has struggled a bit, but kept his poise.
You have to give Hughes credit for pushing through and not letting it get him down. Inning over and we are up 2 to 1.
A call appears to have gone the Yankee way. Do we still bash the umpire for being horribly unfair??
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no we bash them for sucking period. not just against us, but sucking in general.
He talked about how important it was for him to develop that pitch, but did he really mean it? Of course, if he has no confidence in it then he’s not going to throw it, but he seemed very happy with it in ST. He even threw it a few times against the Angels. Maybe he’s just having a bad night..
not item, this OUTING!
“Boy, this is a discouraging outing”
actually i see this as somewhat encouraging…hughes has little out there and has held them to 1 run in 4 innings…he (or any pitcher) could have easily crumbled in the 2nd inning but he limited the damage and kept his team in the game..young pitchers need to learn to pitch on days like this
If 5 innings, 1 run, 4 walk outings are going to be his “bad” outings this year, we could be in store for a pretty big treat this season.
winnington was out though
Let’s see if we can get one more inning out of Hughes. 5 ip, 1 ER is a solid outing for not having any stuff tonight. With the off day yesterday and CC going tomorrow, Joe can use his bullpen liberally.
get millwood out of the game.
“Boy, this is a discouraging outing.
Betsy-
That’s not necessarily true. Let the game finish. If they win the game and he gets through the outing giving them at least six innings it won’t be a disaster at all.
No pitcher is going to have his good stuff every game. Pitchers are going to have to deal with floating strike zones without getting frustrated.
It’s a learning process and you hope Hughes grows from it rapidly.
But the only way to do that is to just figure out what tools you can work with on this night and then get through the game.
The games where you have no hit stuff aren’t the ones that make a pitcher’s career.
It’s nights like these that make a pitcher.
Erica
Actually, the replay showed he was out.
Jeter AB
Didnt see 1st pitch Listening to Remy and Orsillo whine about umpires and how the complexion of AB was changed for Pedroia
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Darn!
SJ, I hate to be a hypocrite. I’m the one always preaching patience and that we have to temper our expectations and then, when game time comes, I get all frazzled. I think it’s because I believe people are going to keep judging him on a game by game basis; I’m always concerned (but I’m working on it) with what the media will say, what pundits will say, etc… I know I have to stop that….
this isnt discouraging. hughes survives without his A Game? thats good in my book.
This start has been a grind from the jump for Hughes. Its these starts where you learn about a guy, not the ones where he’s blowing everyone away. Keeping your team in the game on your bad days is what pitching is all about.
That’s a joke. Bell has no idea where the strike zone is.
Gardner AB
Fair Strike
Fair Ball
Cheap Strike
Fair Strike
I stand by my opinion that baseball should have an NFL style challenge system-
Give each manager the ability to Challenge two plays (at bats or whatever) to be used at their discretion per game
Hold each umpire accountable for overturned calls.
I bet you things would improve dramatically
“and on top of hitting the homer he’s right down behind first backing up the way a good catcher should on the throw that went by teixeira.”
Great point Randy. Catcher’s don’t back up like that consistently at all.
And with a defensive first baseman like Tex it’s easy to take that for granted.
hughes can keep them in. the o’s are one inning from the disaster that is their pen.
Part of being an MLB pitcher is pitching and winning when the umpire is bad. In a strange sort of way, I guess this is one of the learning experiences that Phil needs as he builds his career. If he can hang tough and win this one, he can rely on this experience the next time Wally Bell or his ilk are back there, and cope a bit better.
I know, I’m looking for a silver lining.
Is it just me or do all of Millwood’s pitches within the strikezone look the same?
I can’t imagine that it’s easy to “fix” yourself during the game when the strikezone is not consistent, regardless of whether Phil is a little off tonight or not.
If the umpire gives you something to work with it would be easier to make adjustments.
In that respect, not knowing how the umpire is going to call pitches, I wouldn’t think this is the game to bring out the change. It’s too close a game, with too great a margin for error with this ump, apparently.
Does this make sense?
The changeup is not a magical pitch Betsy.
If he doesn’t have fastball command, the changeup isn’t going to save him.
He’s grinding and he’s hanging in there.
On a night like tonight, you take that.
Gardner has to stop waiting for the perfect pitch. Swing the bat!! He has to stop taking fastballs right over the plate.
tex, Shaun Marcum is also pitching a beauty. He’s three hitting the Sux going into the bottom of the 6th.
That at bat to Gardner was just awful.
What a horrible call. Bell is just making up his strike zone as he’s going along.
How can umpires be this subject to unexplained variation?
It’s as if he’s “judging” the pitcher’s command on a hitter by hitter basis and altering his zone in response.
Hughes is going to have to gut his way through this outing …..Keep his club in the game…..
CB, thanks – as I explained to SJ, I’m not necessarily concerned about a “bad” outing (every pitcher has those) because of the outing, but because I forsee “Phil is an overhyped bust” headlines, lol.
I appreciate everyones comments, by the way. I believe everything everyone’s been saying up here (in my brain), but my nature is to worry like a mother hen about Phil, lol.
I would take 5 innings at this point (but I would LOVE 6).
The Battle Of Jesus Supremacy in scranton is won by Jesus Montero over Jesus delgado with a single to load the bases with 0 outs.
can tex hit opposite field?
By the way, this was posted on another board. It was such a good story that I had to repeat it:
****Suzyn is telling a great story about Mariano at Walter Reade yesterday. mo was talking to a young man in a wheelchair who was wearing a Sox hat. The guy took his hat off and tried to hide it behind his back and Mo told him “I know you’re doing that out of respect for us but don’t do that. The Sox are you team and should wear that hat”***
How great is Mo?
Teixeira AB
Fair Ball
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Swinging Strike
Foul Ball Mark cannot buy a break
Foul Ball
Foul Ball Nice foul off to keep the AB alive
Fair Ball
Nice walk Mark! Hit a HR Alex!
Dear Alex, Do not swing at the first pitch.
I have no idea why that first pitch to Alex was called a ball.
Just as easily could have been called a strike tonight.
the orioles will ride millwood as long as possible.
“can tex hit opposite field?”
His entire swing is designed not to do so.
12-6 with 4 hr from tex and alez combined and javy with a 9 ERA.
cant ask for much more.
Veteran pitchers adjust to a bad strike zone.
The problem in this game is that it is not only bad but completely inconsistent. There is no way to adjust here because his strike zone is not only changing inning to inning but batter to batter. Any pitcher in this case is basically out of luck.
This is just a disgraceful game for an umpire. He is completely dictating this game for both pitchers. Bell’s influence is way too large on this one 1 game, but it will largely be lost in the fray of a 162 game season.
Rodriguez AB
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Fair Strike
Foul Ball Looked behind on it
Fair Ball
Swinging Strike
Weak swing at ball 4.
Thats as bad a swing as you’ll ever see Arod take.
quick inning phranchise
Doreen – I think it makes sense. Hard to adjust to anything if the goal line keeps changing.
Hey, looks like Millwood pitching for Baltimore is having a similar game to Phil – struggling to keep his team in the game, while dealing with the magical, mystical strike zone.
Millwood was tiring there. Alex bailed him out by swinging at ball four.
That was a situation where you have to pass the baton to Cano and keep Millwood on the hook.
Blake, and I need to also remember that this was the site of Phil’s meltdown last year…………He probably wanted to erase that memory tonight.
Scranton scores a second run on a cleanly turned DP grounder by Golson and he still beat the throw. If Gardner is faster, it’s not by much. He just stole another base.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 27th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
By the way, this was posted on another board. It was such a good story that I had to repeat it:
****Suzyn is telling a great story about Mariano at Walter Reade yesterday. mo was talking to a young man in a wheelchair who was wearing a Sox hat. The guy took his hat off and tried to hide it behind his back and Mo told him “I know you’re doing that out of respect for us but don’t do that. The Sox are you team and should wear that hat”***
How great is Mo?
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Personally I just think Mo was showing off his awesomeness so that the sox fan will convert
SJ, that’s fair.
The umps are very frustrating; I would prefer an overall bad strike zone to one that’s inconsistent.
Betsy -
So far, his team is winning, so that’s a good thing.
Izturis AB
Fair Ball
Fair Strike
Swinging Strike
Little squibbaroo out
yanks offense is off the last few games besides cano and po.
That was a nice cutter. Also a perfect example of why that pitch is so valuable for a starter. It can be near impossible to square up. Any contact generated stays off the sweet spot and it gets quick outs.
and of course, tampa is at it again. lots of scoring.
Jones AB
Cheap Ball
Swinging Strike
Fair Ball
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Hard hit right at us!
one more quick out and phil should get into the 6th.
Doreen, that’s right!
Hey, he’s given his team a chance to win; if he gets out of this inning, I would not send him out for the 6th. I really want him to leave with a good feeling and he’s thrown a lot of high stress pitches.
He’s very proud of his cutter.
Phil seems to be having better success with the curve, and I guess his cutter. I guesss he and Jorge are figuring out a way to get it done.
ok 100 pitches. my guess is joe pulls him after this inning.
Hughes should just ride his cut fastball tonight. His four seamer just isn’t there.
omg poor Javy. nothing is going right for him lol
I would, Tex…….Phil still has to build up stamina. Of course, he may have done it in this outing; he’s had to work incredibly hard, lol.
that says it all right there. javy nearly gets his head knocked off by the foul.
Markakis AB
Fair Strike
Fair Ball Michael Kay is talking about the same garbage he does every year. Get a team like the O’s down, and they will quit. BS!
Fair Ball
Foul Ball
Foul Ball Javier Vazquez cant get any breaks either. Maybe that will loosen him and turn him around
Nice Battling Hughesey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
haha. of course that ball finds Javy.
Javy was continuing his lazy streak taking a siesta on the bench – then the ball got fouled off into the dugout and it woke him up right quick.
“nothing is going right for him lol”
Loser gene trumps all.
Trisha
Watch the Suxers! The Jays need your help!
Hughes has guts!
javy has to be wondering who he ticked off above.
all the foul balls have driven up Phil’s pitch count. If thats it for him then you have to like the way he bounced back and battled on a day when he clearly didn’t have consistent command of anything.
Bronx Born
Hughes has guts, as opposed to Javier who is gutless!
Javy didn’t get hurt, did he? I had switched the channel for a sec.
I hope that’s it for him – Phil had to dig deep and find a way to get around this game. Let him leave with a feeling like he kept the team in the game – that’s a good feeling to have.
ok the pen is up. good news for us.
Tell ya what, this is a bigtime growth outing for Hughes.
Scuffled all night but, only 1 run on 2 hits and held his composure despite awful work by Wally Bell.
These are the kind of starts that show his growth and maturity.
I go batter to batter with him to start the 6th.
Cano AB
Fair Ball
Nice hitting!
Now, why didn’t that happen with the bases loaded???
hughes has pitched poorly but still given up only 1 run. cannot put batters away today but the bottom line is 1 run….
Why. Why steal. Why?
well thats a kick in the gonads.
“Hughes has guts!”
Ironic isn’t it? At this time last year as Hughes was getting racked around at Camden yards throngs of people were convinced that he had no guts at all.
I’m thinking the overlap between the Hughes is “soft” and has no “guts” crowd last year and the Vazquez has no “guts” this year is pretty high.
Scranton into the bottom of the 7th inning. scranton leads 2-0. jason Hirsh through 7 innings 0 hits,0 runs, 3 walks, 2 strikeouts
Aw, man. took a perfect throw. ANd it was a perfect throw and tag.
Someone really has to tell Robi to stop trying to steal
It tells you that Phil has really, really good stuff when, on a night that he’s got nothing, he doesn’t give up hits.
In many aspects, tonight will have more to do with Hughes’ development then the near no hitter. Learning to pitch when you don’t have your best “stuff” and a crappy strike zone separate the good from the great.
you gotta make a lot of deposits to the pain bank before you can make some withdrawals. phil made some deposits tonight
Enough with the name dropping and bs stories. The good guys are the ones who go to visit hospitals when there is no cameras between sterling and waldmen I wanna puke. If there is a bad part of winning a WS it the visit to D.C. How much longer are we going to have to hear about this bologna?
When will Cano realize that he is not a base stealer?
Posada AB
Fair Strike Dont know why Robi is stealing. He’s out. Perfect throw and tag. Umpire could have given us a cheap call.
Fair Ball
Foul Ball Why is Millwood still in this game
Fair Ball He definitely didnt go
Fair Ball They are leaving Millwood in as long as they can, so their shoddy bullpen cant come in versus us like Shatner put them in versus the Sox.
Fair Ball
Nice AB Jorgie
man cano would have walked to second.
I agree SJ, Hughes has really shown his mettle in this game.
I think Jorge will learn from Robbie’s experience, and not steal here.
Hughes had the loser gene last year in Baltimore; Damon yelled it out of him and the gene passed on to the Sox. That gene is flying out there, somewhere, but it’s not sure who to land on next.
Don’t bring out Hughes for the sixth. I guarantee if they push him he gives up that second run and loses the win.
Of course Girardi is going to keep him out there.
If I had a paypal account I would bet good money on Hughes losing the win next inning.
oh yeah here it comes.
In order to make a stolen base attempt worth the chance when you have a guy like Posada up at the plate you probably need around an 80% success rate.
Cano isn’t even close to 80% success on stolen bases. He’s a terrible base stealer as Victor Martinez can attest to.
Not the situation to play small ball in. They just gave the O’s a huge out.
No reason not to bring hughes out for the 6th inning and let him go batter to batter. Let him gut his outs. he deserves that chance tonight.
Somebody tells Cano that he should never try to steal. He can do everything well on the field except stealing a base.
“I think Jorge will learn from Robbie’s experience, and not steal here.”
lol, yea I think you can feel pretty confident in that assumption.
Yeah CB you got that right. It is all about guts. Doing the right thing. Fighting when you are tired. Never giving up. Lots of folks have talent. But it is the persistence and guts that separate them out.
Tired of Michael Kay’s vocabulary with his trepidation and manifistation remarks. Michael we know you’re smart, now make us like you. Talk like a baseball announcer for God’s sake.
Granderson AB
Fair Strike
Fair Strike (Borderline call) Where were these strikes versus the Sox
Fair Ball He was throwing balls in the opposing dugout over the weekend
Fair Ball Yes. Thats the kind of pitch he threw.
Cheap Ball (Borderline) They have up Cla Meredith, the only guy who pitched well against the Sox. No Matt Albers, Cam Mickolio.
Foul Ball
Swinging Strike
Terrible strikeout
It’s just time to go home, you know?
grandy needs to learn how to just take the slider to the opposite field instead of pulling it and striking out.
CR9, I am absolutely there and Shaun Marcum just pitched himself out of a jam in the 7th, runners on 1st and 2nd, by getting Hermida to K and that phenom McDonald to pop out.
He’s pitched one hell of a game. Unfortunately Bucholz the Chucky Doll is still in the game. 93 pitches, bottom of the 7th. But he definitely looks like he’s tiring. Here’s hoping!
what the hell posada?
awful base running decisions this inning.
Horrible baserunning that inning.
Not good, Jorge, not good at all.
Just a terrible inning on the basepaths for the Yankeess that inning.
No hip hip there.
Nice hit by Swishy. Terrible baserunning by Jorgie
He’s out. You cant give free outs to this crap bullpen.
Wow. That’s just awful. The yanks ran themselves out of an inning. Terrible base running by Posada.
That was a sloppy inning of baserunning. If Cano could have stayed put, Granderson might have been able to bunt over the runners and Swisher could have driven Posada in.
That inning is going to coke back to bite us….
I forgot to say tie score 1-1
Looks like the yankees picked a bad night to quit running the bases
Wow that sucks
Have a feeling that inning will haunt us. We’re doing nothing offensively and mosst of the team is ice cold. We can’t let opportunities like that slip
There at least is no age-related decline in Jorge’s base running ability, it’s always been terrible. (Thank god he can still hit.)
Two things you can always count on in life:
(1) boston beating baltimore
(2) baltimore beating new york
Once again, Yankees hitters making baltimore pitching look like All-World Team.
Aaron Hill swinging at the first pitch, like the Orioles this past weekend.
mental mistakes that half inning for the Yanks.. Getting caught stealing with a guy that already launched one 400 feet at the plate and a baserunning error. Hope that doesn’t come back to bite them.. Phil has pitched his tail off tonight, he deserves a few more runs.
Love this move by Girardi. Go batter to batter.
Wow, Girardi is really pushing the envelope with Hughes. I never thought he’d be back out for this inning.
Last time I checked, the Yankees were still leading.
Ok, the team is not swinging the bats well, but Kay did say they were exhausted and to maybe expect them to be flat. Even without that excuse, they’re still leading.
I think that Hughes has pitched well considering he doesn’t have his good stuff and is all over the place with his fastball. No one is pulling his fastball, have you noticed that?
Wieters AB
Foul Ball
Cheap Strike
Foul Ball
Fair Ball
Nice catch by Mark.
If the first guy gets on, Phil has to come out…I don’t want to see him get the loss (obviously not the Yankees either).
Sending Hughes out there again is the right decision.
I love Posada but his base running is abominable, he’s the worst base runner I have ever seen and I watch a lot of baseball. Almost impossible to imagine a guy in the league 15 years as a catcher with instincts as poor as Jorge’s. Every year he does things on the bases that just amaze me, and I’m not even mentioning that he is most likely the slowest runner in the league.
“Love this move by Girardi. Go batter to batter.”
Me too, trusting your starters can help keep the bullpen fresh
i like how their building up hughes to the 110 range…
Tejada AB
Fair Strike
Fair Ball
Good job Phil!! Had a GREAT NIGHT!!!!!
NYy hasn’t exactly torn the cover off of the ball with Millwood pitching. They haven’t deserved the two runs they have. They deserve the Posada homer.
Jorge Posada is a terrible base runner.
Bernie Williams was also a terible base runner.
The fact that they played on teams that won 4 WS rings is truly amazing. Those teams were so damn good that they could overcome two historically bad base runners.
Of course, those guys were also driving in boat loads of runs…
i like that joe is rising the pitch counts early.
Great job by Phil.
atta boy Hughes.
Plus, it helps Phil build stamina……..he’s not a fragile doll. I would have taken him out so that he left with a good feeling, but I can understand leaving him in batter to batter.
Plus, it helps Phil build stamina……..he’s not a fragile doll. I would have taken him out so that he left with a good feeling, but I can understand leaving him in batter to batter.
Hughes goes 5 2/3 with 2 hits and 1 run, that’s pretty good in my book for tonight…
Great job by Hughes. Now you go to Logan to pitch to Scott.
Very solid effort tonight from Phil.
The yankees offense stinks.. Brett Gardner is a back up outfielder… Curtis Granderson stinks offensively and reminds me more and more of Gary Matthews JR.. the Yankees should have brought back both Matsui and Damon because right now.. the RAYS ARE CLEARLY THE BEST AL EAST TEAM.. and it’s not even close… Cashman better do something to upgrade this offense.
110 pitches is the new 100 pitches this year.
that’s about as an “Andy Pettitte Like” performance as you can get. The maturity is starting to rise to the top for Hughes.
Strange stats for Hughes…in 18 innings this season he has allowed just 6 hits
but 11 walks
Phil should be very satisfied that he found a way to get around this game when he had nothing, in a place that’s give him nightmares. I’m sure Joe and Eiland are pleased. Ugh – I hate that there wont’t be a post-game show.
I wish I could read lips and see what Phil is saying to Eiland on the bench.
# whatever April 27th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
The yankees offense stinks.. Brett Gardner is a back up outfielder… Curtis Granderson stinks offensively and reminds me more and more of Gary Matthews JR.. the Yankees should have brought back both Matsui and Damon because right now.. the RAYS ARE CLEARLY THE BEST AL EAST TEAM.. and it’s not even close… Cashman better do something to upgrade this offense.
Whatever
hmm..thought he’d let him finish it.
Anyway I must say that this outing from Phil was just as impressive to me as the one against Oakland in a different way. Phil could have easily blew up in that second inning and caused the Yankees to burn through their pen and therefore affect several games down the road..
but he didn’t he grinded out a good start and leaves with his team on top.. pretty impressive for a 23 year old…thats Andy Pettite type moxy there.
Friends, Romans, countrymen, and unsolicited anonymous email correspondents, I come with your best interests at heart — if you beg to differ, let me have it.
I’m with those of you saying this has been a great effort from Phil, gutting through his own problems and problems not of his own making. I really hope Boone Logan can get his out and then the Yankee bats can give Phil some more support.
Regarding some earlier blog controversy, I have seen “The Truth” post here before and there is no reason to think he or she is the same scoundrel that impersonated randy l. last evening. Such skullduggery is unfortunate, but what can you do…
Hughes had nothing out there tonight in terms of fastball command. And that fastball command is everthing in his style of pitching.
And despite that he gutted out a tremendous start. Games where he has the kind of stuff he had in Oakland are the easy ones.
Tonight are the ones where number one starters are made.
He walked way too many hitters but in the end he only gave up 2 hits.
So despite the high walk total he only gave up 6 base runners. That’s it.
Tremendous job by Hughes.
I’m much more impressed by this game than the Oakland game in many ways.
whatever is back
every time i watch phil…i am thankful we don’t have johan…
“that’s about as an “Andy Pettitte Like” performance as you can get. ”
Gb, I was just thinking that. A real grind-it-out type of game for Hughes.
In Scranton, Yanks lead 2-1. Hirsh lost his no hitter and shutout on a 2 out homer in the 8th.
GB, that’s a huge compliment; good for Phil. He’s becoming a man, lol.
RS, the walks will come down. He wasn’t wild, just a bit off, against the Angels (understandable) and tonight he had nothing. As the year progress, his command will get better. I assume he had mechanical difficulties tonight as well…. The thing is, no one is hitting him, so his stuff is so good.
Boone can’t walk Scott in that situation. That’s a bad job. Scott can’t hit lefties.
please dont walk the guy you are in to face. ugh.
Can we get a lefty who throws strikes?
Scott AB
Fair Ball
Fair Ball
Foul Ball Poor Jorgie. Youre wasting time Jorgie. Thats disgraceful and pathetic
Fair Ball Disco Dan Ford? Are you Moron Mike Kay?!
Swinging Strike
Fair Ball Puke Scott takes a pretty darn good pitch from Logan
Walk
Nice D-Rob the righty specialist.
Logan Stinks… WHY DID WE GIVE UP PHIL COKE.. WHY?? for Granderson who cant hit? DAMON IS knocking Texas around and granderson is struggling to hit 230.. NICE JOB YOU BUM CASHMAN!
3-2 curveball with nobody on base…ugh.
That’s really just unacceptable by Logan. 3-2 after overthrowing 3 fastballs you decide to try to bury a breaking ball instead of coming right at the guy.
Hughes with his stuff and Pettite’s bulldog type demeanor would make for a new ace in the rotation.
Logan just can’t walk scott there. Luke Scott is not such a dangerous home run that you can’t just go after him with your fastball if you’re a left hander.
Nick
Why no LOST tonight? Is it coming back next week?
Yeah, a cowardly appearance by ‘whatever’.
CB, by style of pitching, do you mean that Phil needs FB command because he doesn’t throw 97 MPH?
I guess tonight he had really zero control as opposed to just being slightly off. Well, the ump didn’t get to him – that’s a positive. I’m sure Eiland and Joe gave him a well-deserved pat on the rump.
It’s why the less you have to go to your bullpen the better.
Guys are just too unreliable in pens all over baseball.
That’s why I like when Girardi pushes the envelope with his starters.
Big heart tonight for The Young Master
The twerp is just looking for attention. Ignore him.
Yes L
ST will return next Tuesday.
The week off is probably to build suspense and then have all of the final episodes during the May sweeps period.
Betsy-
No. It’s because he’s a power pitcher. Power pitchers throw fastballs and dominate with them.
It’s the weapon they can use most aggressively to shut down the opposition.
Wigginton AB
Swinging Strike Beautiful Pitch
Foul Ball
Foul Ball Poor Jorgie again. Take your time Jorgie. They should give u all day
I dont understand. 0-2 and you hit a guy?
Any veteran like Sabathia, Pettitte, Haren, etc, will tell you that it’s easy to pitch and win when you have great stuff that night. The trick is winning when you have next to nothing that night.
Ugh. Get Robertson out of there. That’s just awful on an 0-2 pitch.
Pat M, you can’t teach heart…..
Dave Robertson has hardly pitched this entire season. Tough to maintain command when you’re not throwing
Ugghhh
Un****cking believable.
WTH was that?
lol
What the hell was that throw?
What the hell Girardi
This game is way too tight if you’re the Yankees.
No Double-Double tonight.
Hughes AB
Fair Ball
What a F****NG JOKE!
SICK!
We could have had him out at home! Sorry to get angry at him, but Winn is a moron.
CB, ok, thanks. See, lol, he is a power pitcher. I had asked that once before and we couldn’t get a consensus going as to whether he was one or not.
This doesn’t sound good, lol
WOW. That’s as bad a throw as Winn will ever make.
Man, this is just so frustrating. Walk, HBP, base hit. If I’m Hughes I’m pretty ticked right now.
Posada and Cano ran us out of a big inning.
that would of been something it somehow that throw resulted in an out at first
Awful job by Robertson and an awful job by Winn.
Hard to trust Robertson in these situations. Girardi is staying too long with him.
Totally unacceptable.
This is another game the shows how limited the benefits of match up baseball can be.
aww, no win for Phil………and this game IS way too close for comfort for the whole team. 2 outs, none on and the O’s are still batting? Oy.
That’s the phony SJ. Ignore….Ignore…ignore
Girardi loves to over manage
LEAVE HUGHES IN!!!!
Sheesh! Why do the Yankees seem to have a harder time beating last place teams?
(Toronto update)
Top of thhe 8th, bases loaded, 2 out for the Sux. Gregg in and has a 3-0 count.
Think bad thoughts.
Walks hurt again
Wow, 3-2 now? I guess that’s Logan’s run correct?
Oh, well. Michael Kay is a piece of worthless carcillo.
Michael Kay: With RISP and 2 outs, they have 6 BASE HITS ON THE YEAR, 6 BASE HITS ON THE YEAR
Make that 8, you A HOLE
Robertson really is dreadful when he comes into an inning with guys on base. I feel like he always lets inherited runners score. Absolutely pathetic against this minor league team.
This is so dumb. It doesn’t get any easier than coming into a game with 2 outs and no one on base, and the bullpen manages to allow 4 straight batters to reach base.
wow. from a win to a no-decision to a possible loss.
Look at Shatner
Pinch running for people.
Really Trying hard.
Orioles showing the effort tonight
(Toronto update)
I should have done it sooner. Gregg walked in a run. 2-1 Sux.
Robertson is pathetic. Period.
“This is another game the shows how limited the benefits of match up baseball can be.”
You send your starter back out to start the inning, he get 2 quick outs, then you pull him because a lefty is coming up….like he hasn’t faced lefties the whole game and given up 2 hits. I’m sorry but as has been said many times before on this blog, the more times you go to the pen the greater the chance you’re going to pull a dud that day. 2 runs with 2 outs and nobody on. Unbelievable.
Wait, how can Phil get the loss?
Walk to a lefty who can’t hit lefties. HBP to a guy on an 0-2 pitch, single to a AAA hitter, go ahead hit to a non-hitter.
Staying too long with a guy who can’t get anybody out.
Bad job here by Joe. Should have been out after he hit Wiggington.
Now, he could give up 4 more if he leaves him in there.
“Robertson really is dreadful when he comes into an inning with guys on base. I feel like he always lets inherited runners score.”
I guess you missed that playoff game last year against the Twins when he came in with the bases loaded and not outs and allowed no runs to score.
Please get Robertson out of there.
This is not on drob, you don’t pitch a guy for 12 days you are not going to be sharp.
Next time you sit him for 8 days, and you finally let him pitch, don’t take him out after 6 pitches, or don’t expect him to have any control Joe.
This is a pretty pathetic display by Robertson.
Melancon and Grant Duff won’t be long for the minors at this rate.
Yankees loss, not a Hughes loss.
Middle relief can be so fleeting. Very unfortunate for Hughes who despite laboring, found it when he needed to. Can’t blame Joe G for pulling him. He was at a 110, and it wasn’t an easy 110.
Girardi strikes again!!!!!!
LETS SEE THE ORIOLES BULLPEN IN THE FINAL 3 INNINGS
SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make that 9, Michael Kay!!!
Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you want me to stop with the Toronto updates, just say so and I will.
But if I get a mixed response I’ll have to go with the majority.
this is such a bummer.
I guess Joe wants him to get his work in.
Why stay with a guy who can’t get outs? Makes no sense.
Hello minor leagues?
This Oriole team sucks, and Robertson can’t get anybody out? Ridiculous.
Hughes couldn’t have done any worse. Why not leave him in for one more?
Later, guys. I’ll be around once somebody decides to remove the garbage that blew in through the door.
Would you guys have left Phil in?
It figures that the Orioles will get there 1st win at home against the Yanks. Just pathetic from Robertson. Get him out of there. It will be 6-2 soon.
Thanks William Shatner. Thanks Orioles for hitting with RISP 2 outs. Thanks Michael Kay for performing your jinx as usual.
Dearest David Robertson-
Please stop screwing around. Lets get the 3rd out already. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Sincerely Yours,
Erica
need to get this out here…2 run deficit you can get over…one swing by jones and your lookin at 5
sometimes I really can’t stand this team
“Wait, how can Phil get the loss?”
Less focus on Phil more focus on the team.
“You send your starter back out to start the inning, he get 2 quick outs, then you pull him because a lefty is coming up….”
Really perplexing. There was no need to take hughes out of this game.
If he can go out there having thrown 100 pitches he can try to get that third out having thrown 109.
Trisha
Continue with the updates!
M, that’s what I thought. Either way, the Yankees are playing some pretty bad baseball.
This bullpen stinks
This scumbag Jones just slammed his bat! and his helmet!
Where was this effort versus the Red Sox?
The polite letter works everytime.
Sadly it was like, two batters too late. ARGH!
So the Orioles waited for the Yankees to come to town to turn it on this season??!!
ok 2 runs down against this O’s pen is plenty doable with 3 innings to go….gonna need some shutdown relief work and a little magic from the bats
Another great job by G.I Joe, Hughes get 2 straight outs but he gets taken out.
Pat, I’m focusing plenty on the team; I’m hardly happy that they are now losing. I just wanted clarification from M on her comment.
Maybe Joe’s braces are pulled a little tight tonight. Cant think straight.
Have fun in Scranton Robertson
And Edwin Jackson is getting bombed too
Erica’s Avengers needs a new pitching coach!!!!!!!
i don’t get why Joe micromanges in the 6th inning. That totally backfired.
“I liked the matchup”
What did you expect? The Os roll over for Boston yet they play us like it is their WS.
Happens every freakin time. I’m sick of it.
Exponentially
Trembley giving us tribbles
Er…I meant troubles
oh yeah..i miss chan ho park lol
So wait – Joe leaves his starters in other times, but not Phil? He hasn’t gotten lefties out? I don’t get it…….
Bottom of the 8th, Bucholz still in. 2-1, not the Jays.
Bucholz at something like 106 pitches, which tells you that Tito doesn’t want to go near his pen.
1 out
Im always wary of playing a team that is “overdue” for a win. Being winless at home had to end sometime. I often would rather play a team thats hot than a cold one.
Hard to trust Robertson, and Marte, and Aceves, not to mention Joba and Logan. There’s always Mo!
Of the last 5 games, haven’t we had an early lead in all of them?
Time for a comeback!
If Girardi wants to pull Hughes fine but don’t pull him for a AAA guy who has been on the team for a week. Girardi’s use of the bullpen is very odd. From not knowing if he should walk Morales or not, and then that inning.
Time for the offense to wake up.
Why doesnt Michael Kay go stuff his big head with a FRAPPE and shut UP!
I would have pulled Phil after five and brought in Robertson to start the inning. Given the way he’s thrown Phil probably wouldn’t have gotten the win any way. But there would be no way that after 2 easy outs I’d bring in a simply bad pitcher in Boone Logan (look at this guy’s career numbers) just for the sake of “matchup baseball.”
Girardi’s obsession with this thing is costing this team and individual players like Phil wins.
Can we get a rally going from the offense? I missed the 7-1 win against the Angels so it’s been a long time since I saw a decent showing from the hitters.
The Orioles are a team that our all-star lineup is supposed to be padding stats against!
Well, the pen hasn’t been the only problem. The team is completely scuffling right now – they’re not playing good baseball.
let’s go, bats.
Can’t keep Robertson out there to get you beat.
Once he hits a guy with an 0-2 pitch he misses by 3 feet, he have to pull him.
Instead, you leave him out there to give up 3 runs and put you in a hole.
It makes no sense and it may cost them the game.
At this point, David Robertson can only pitch when you are up or down 5. Any other situation is failure.
Bad night on the bench for the second game in a row by Joe. Just not the way to run a bullpen.
Coming into this game Robertson has thrown 4 2/3 innings this entire season.
That’s it – 4 2/3 innings.
There is no way a pitcher is going to be sharp when he’s thrown 4 2/3 innings over 20 games especially when he’s 25 and relies heavily on a curve ball to get outs.
This is also why there is a real cost to giving Robertson 6 pitch appearances and taking him out even when he looks good.
Nice Swing, Randy. Up there to take your hacks?
Was that a strike?
The more alarming thing is that this offense has done nothing for over a week, save for the Piniero game.
2 runs seems like 7 with this offense
In what world is that a strike?
# CR9 April 27th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Nice Swing, Randy. Up there to take your hacks?
Was that a strike?
It was outside.
someone get randy winn off this team please
That pitch to Randy was a foot outside
Carl
Thanks, I thought so.
I was on the phone with a friend, and said the umpire had treated us fairly for the last 4 innings.
And then I said, “that’s due to change, now that we are behind”
And so it did.
Randy Winn sucks. He is this year’s Cody Ransom/Josh Phelps…
We can’t say for sure that Phil would have gotten the win; it was a close game and the pen has been iffy. That said, I agree – you don’t take a Phil who was settled down for Boone Logan (who has shown good promise, but still….)
Is it just me or do the Yankees all of a sudden stink?
I feel like the only people who are hitting in the lineup are Posada, Cano and Arod.
So much for the ‘easy’ part of the schedule. Os are playing us tougher than Tampa or Boston did.
You have a fully rested bullpen. Why leave Robertson out there to get you beat? Makes no sense.
The kid hasn’t gotten too many people out this year. He’s allowed a bunch of inherited runners to score. He hasn’t pitched much. All recipes for disaster.
The idea is to maximize, not minimize your chances to win.
Can’t stay too long with a guy who can’t get outs.
Especially with the offense scuffling.
Hard to understand what Joe was thinking in that inning.
Since when did the O’s bullpen become strike throwing machines?
Wow, 4 and 2/3 innings? That’s unbelievable. That said, the offense looks dead.
(Toronto update)
Wells on 2nd, 2 down, Gonzalez up. Still 2-1. bottom of the 8th
Think good thoughts. Quick!
Game is lost due to over managing.
Looks the Orioles bullpen is out there actually trying!!
Come on Brett. If you were to strike out here, just fling your bat right at the pitchers mound and drill the guy.
CHEAP STRIKE 3!!!!
if they can only muster 2 runs off the pitching they have seen tonight then they probably don’t deserve the win tonight anyway.
nice effort from the whole team. way to give away a game.
posada does not know how to run the bases. as Kay said where was he going. Then Boone Logan with the nice appearance. Could not even get a lefty out. Then RObertson with masterpiece.
then to top it off OLD MAN Winn with the gun in right.
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the yanks are sleepwalking and a disgrace tonight..disgraceful performance………
CB,
Yep. You want to line up your relievers to face 1 or 2 batters only, you cannot expect them to be sharp everytime out.
Yet another downfall of matchup baseball.
Cold lineup combined with a shaky bullpen = bad results.
They can’t score when there is a deficit, and can’t score enough to put the other team away.
If Robertson can’t pitch in close games (I’m not ready to say that yet), then what kind of pen do we have?
Gardner needs to swing the bat!!!! His at bats are pathetic. He gets fastball after fastball right over the plate. Pitchers know to go right after him. SWING THE BAT!!
Oh well, and THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, IS HOW THE ORIOLES BULLPEN WILL SUCCEED, IF THEY DO, AGAINST US.
CHEAP HP UMPIRE CALLS!!!!!!!!!!
There was no reason to take Hughes out of the game in the first place. I don’t care what the split statistics say.
And I know how bad Luke Scott’s numbers are against left handers.
And using Logan tonight was particularly risky because there was no strike zone to speak of.
Logan doesn’t have great command to begin with. Bell’s strike zone is floating around. That’s not a great mix.
There was no reason for hughes to come out of the game other than the fact that Tony LaRussa says that’s the right thing to do…
The misunderstanding of statistics in baseball is mind boggling. They are misused so badly it is just hard to believe.
(Toronto update)
Chucky gets out of the inning.
Going to the 9th
Of course, the Os bullpen blows 3 leads in Fenway Park, yet looks like the 96 Yankees pen against us.
Is our lineup dead or what
CB,
All that is true. Which is why you don’t put him in a position to get you beat.
Joe did and it bit him.
Now, you can’t use him at all in close games unless you like losing them.
He moves down the list and you bury him. You can’t afford to risk it.
Gardner in the 2 hole can’t hack it. Missing Damon tonight!
the red sox keep getting breaks. they should have 5-6 wins MAX.
the yankees keep having blow ups and shooting themselves in the foot.
we’re about to lose to the WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL. they have won 3 f-ing games this season. THREE.
giving them #4 makes me want to throw up.
the offense has been the main problem…middle of the order next inning needs to bring it
Girardi’s bullpen management this year has almost been a sick combination of Joe Torre and Joe Girardi.
He has leaned on Mo and Joba at any sign of trouble and he has been death by matchup with everyone else.
Looks like it will be up to CC and AJ to help us win the series.
Then again, Guthrie and Matsuz are both much better pitchers than Millwood, so they have to be nearly perfect. And hey have to go 7+ so they don’t hand off leads to the shaky middle relief.
o and 2 to wigginton and robertson hits him..
this team is sleepwalking. tex has no clue at the plate and similar for arod..
btw granderson is hitting about 225 and looked like a little boy against the lefty swinging at ball 4.. a real impressive hard charging effort tonight…. 2.5 behind the rays…
losing does not bother me but giving away games by bad playing does. hughes struggled and gave up 1 run in 5 and 2/3.
itzurus has 2 of his 3 rbi’s this year tonight………….
what manager plays matchups with nobody on with 2 outs in the 6th?
“the red sox keep getting breaks. they should have 5-6 wins MAX.
the yankees keep having blow ups and shooting themselves in the foot.
we’re about to lose to the WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL. they have won 3 f-ing games this season. THREE.
giving them #4 makes me want to throw up.”
red sox lost to the orioles…
I really hope they don’t give girardi an extension. He has shown time and time again that he really doesn’t know what he’s doing when it comes to managing the pen.
They are still taking pitches. This Orioles team is disgusting
Girardi over manages again
“There was no reason to take Hughes out of the game in the first place. I don’t care what the split statistics say.”
I think in that situation you make Scott Phil’s last hitter regardless and let him try to finish the inning. 4 or 5 more pitches isn’t going to make a difference.
That said, Logan can’t come in and walk a guy with 2 outs and nobody on base….especially with a 3-2 curveball.
I guess you do have to play the hot hand, but who in the pen is the hot hand? Park’s injury really hurts…….Robertson was counted on. SJ, I know you’re not giving up on him, but Dave was expected to be a key component to the pen. Who is going to take his place and when does he return to the 7th/8th inning spots? I realize it’s tough because a slump from a reliever can cost games and you can’t necessarily give him tons of chances to work himself out of it.
I thought Phil had a shot at his 3rd win for the season and closing in the 13-7 I had hoped for him this season……….Not a very good outing to say the least by the pen…….One thing to remember, The Yanks haven’t been exactly tearing the cover off the ball as of late…….
“if they can only muster 2 runs off the pitching they have seen tonight then they probably don’t deserve the win tonight anyway.”
Lots of focus is going to be placed on the pitching but the bigger story of this game is the offense or lack there of.
They’ve been awful at the plate and awful against a team that has been bleeding runs all season.
Right now the yankees offense is too dependent on Cano, Posada, Alex and Jeter. If they aren’t hitting the team is struggling to score.
ralphie, the only game they lost to the o’s was the last, which their bullpen blew. we already are going to lose 1 of 1.
Bullpen managment has been poor this year. No question about that.
Cost him in the CC start in Boston. Cost him Sunday and cost him tonight.
He has to do a better job with it over the course of the season.
When guys can’t find the zone, you can’t leave them out there to get you beat.
No offense tonight or not, if they get beat, they did by guys hitting under .200 and walking non-hitters.
That’s inexcusable.
I said it all winter and I’ll say it again, nothing’s changed and nothing will, we are extremely vunerable late in games vs leftys, Granderson can’t hit leftys, Winn is a joke, and Gardner is not a tough at bat vs leftys. This lineup in constructly poorly and misses Matsui and Damon’s experience late in games especially vs leftys. Did you see Winn’s swing right handed, pathetic, didn’t Cashman check his stats last yr when he hit 154 vs leftys before giving him $2m, pathetic. He’ll be released before June. And why didn’t Thames ph for him, we’re down 2 runs late and we’re not using Thames, what gives.
The Yankees bullpen is really shaky. Losing Park hurt them because he was somewhat decent. Aceves hasn’t been good since the middle of last season, Marte who knows when he has arm issues or not. They don’t really have anyone they can trust in the late innings.
Win Vulture did his part; time for bats to do theirs.
disgraceful game so far to Yankees.
Pat M, I know – it stinks. However, if Young Master Phil keeps this up, he will have plenty more wins.
This team looks tired, really tired…
Can we stop blaming the Yankees, Girardi, and Robertson.
The Robertson inning was not even the umpire’s fault.
It was the fault of the Orioles, and the Orioles alone.
They had 6 hits with 2 out RISP all year, and got 3 in one inning versus us. That takes a different approach at the plate. They tried their hardest against us, bottom line.
“All that is true. Which is why you don’t put him in a position to get you beat.
Joe did and it bit him.”
Girardi is too wedded to match up baseball. He puts too much stock in split statistics.
The ridiculous thing is that even if one wanted to take a purely quantitative approach, Girardi is thinking about the problem the wrong way.
It is really hard to believe. It’s a great example of how people can become enchanted by numbers and then use the numbers the wrong way and support the wrong actions.
Unforunately, this is standard managerial practice in the game now.
Didn’t we give the Nationals their first series win on the road last year…in June? It’s not the end of the world to lose to the Orioles, but it certainly doesn’t feel good to give away games against bottom barrel teams when you have the lead in the 6th inning. There’s no guarentee that we’re going to keep winning games in TB and Boston, so these wins are kind of necessary.
However, I don’t think this team has had a come from behind win yet (a true one, I mean…not coming back from a 2 run deficit in the third inning), so we are due for one of those.
Girardi?
The reason Aceves is the second best pitcher in this bullpen right now is that he’s the only one other than Mo who can be trusted to come in and pound the zone with strikes. Robertson has the stuff to be an elite late inning reliever but too often just loses complete control of the baseball. I don’t get the sense that its a mindset thing with him at all- I think he tries to attack – and for the little I do know about pitching his mechanics do look really clean. Maybe its consistency in terms of repeating them? I don’t really know how else to explain his horrendous lapses in command both in the majors and minors.
“Right now the yankees offense is too dependent on Cano, Posada, Alex and Jeter. If they aren’t hitting the team is struggling to score.”
Teixera really needs to get going soon. They need his production. I really thought the Yankees would light Millwood up but they just never strung anything together..lets hope the last 2 innings are different.
Michael Kay said this team would look tired tonight. He knew what he was talking about – too much travel in the last 48 hours.
(Toronto update)
Gregg gets two out (could have used it in the bottom of the 8th…) and allows a hit. Runner on first, one out, Pedroia looks silly making the last out.
Ramon Ramirez to pitch the bottom of the 9th for the Sux. Still 2-1. Bautista, Buck, Snider due up. Maybe he’ll pinch hit for Buck.
The media made Girardi look like a bullpen genius. But he has been terrible in that department. It seems like he is never sure what move to make. Should he leave a guy in, or when is it time to take him out.
You have six guys in the bullpen in front of Mo. When a guy can’t get anybody out, you go to somebody else. Its not rocket science.
You don’t leave him out there to get you beat. Its that simple.
Now, you can’t use him in close games for awhile. Unless, you like losing games.
Pull him after Wiggington, perhaps you squeeze out of that inning. Keeping in there was a dumb move, bad offense or not.
Tex will break out from May 01? no sign.
tex smacks one right at jones
Another out from Tex…is anyone surprised?
Boston and Tampa fatten up on teams like the Os. We have let downs against them.
Every single year it happens. We have not won our opening series vs. Baltimore since 2006….
Ramirez ERA 7.56, fwiw
Ramon Ramirez in to close the game out against the Jays.
I’ll steal Jim Kaat’s line.
The last 3 outs is a whole different ballgame.
no one is hitting in this team.
CB,
I agree. Hard to understand it sometimes and tonight is one of those times.
Just put Tex on the DL until May. The guy is killing us now… might as well let Miranda get some ABs in April. He can’t be worse than Tex.
Bautista pop up. Buck up. Fly ball out.
Another out from Tex…is anyone surprised?
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Well if you expect bad things…
It was a hard hit out, he’s going to break through soon.
2 quick outs from Ramirez. Game over.
The Yanks are just up there swinging. We’re not even taking pitches against this heinous bullpen that cant throw strikes.
when boston and tb are getting 18 wins via this PATHETIC o’s team, we’ll be getting 8.
honestly, it’s nothing but embarassing.
All of a sudden Tejada can field?! Kay just said Arod is 1 for his last 15. Now 16. It seems like Cano is the only one hitting.
Forget sweep… let’s just hope we can win the series. Going to take some miraculous pitching from CC and Burnett with the way the offense is performing.
cano is just insane…just insane
no excuse for early season slump.
You got paid tens of millions a year, your job is to hit, and you fail so far.
no surprise Cano hit a single with no one on.
CR, they’re making Ramirez look like Cy.
I never really felt comfortable with that 2-1 lead.
Are we seriously going to lose to the Orioles? Pathetic… start hitting Tex! Stop sucking bullpen! Stop playing Winn and Thymes.
Could it be time for our 2-out rally? Well, it better happen with a Posada HR because he and Cano are the only ones hitting right now.
too bad cano fail to get a hit with the base loaded. this offense is a joke
Tomorrow night, I don’t care what happens, CC goes 8 and Mo pitches the 9th.
You don’t put anybody else out there unless you have a double digit lead.
If you can’t get outs out of your bullpen, lean on the starters to get to Mo.
And Boston wins it’s 3rd series in a row,. While we are about to drop 4 out of 5.
When the lineup goes cold, they all go cold.
“when boston and tb are getting 18 wins via this PATHETIC o’s team, we’ll be getting 8.
honestly, it’s nothing but embarassing.”
boston lost to the orioles, bob.
“Teixera really needs to get going soon. They need his production. ”
He really does. It’s great for Mark to confidently assert that by the end of the season he knows where his numbers will be.
But at some level, the distribution of your production matters.
Teixeira has essentially left them playing 8 men against 9. He cannot hit .100 for an entire month.
You just cannot do nothing for 15% of the season and not expect it is going to hurt the team.
Snider grounds out.
…
3 hard hit balls this inning became outs.
Hate to beat a dead horse but I wanted both Matsui and Damon back and Cashman didn’t or whatever happened…..I mean we won the World Series with those guys and you can tell out offense misses them….Nick Johnson hurt and Winn a joke…Gardner having to play everyday…..each year is a new year Cashman and right now your moves don’t look too good, especially how Matsui, Damon, Jackson, and Coke are playing all with great #’s so far this year………not sure why you had to mess up a great thing and break up our Championship team…….and I hope you didn’t get fleeced again by Dombrowski the Tigers GM, ala Sheffield trade and the Mike Lowell trade when hew as the GM of the Marlins……
That was pretty simple for Ramirez.
SJ -
No doubt, CC has to hand it off to MO or we are just asking for loss.
Same with AJ, though he hardly ever pitches into the 8th inning.
The pen is a liability now. When Joe wants to go to his pen, he is entering the Lion’s den.
The Rays also lost once to the Orioles already.
Blue Jays cover the run line. There’s some silver lining.
I see the diehard Yankee fans have arrived to cheer on the club !!!!! Maybe GB was right, time to cut out of here
We mailed this game in. Maybe we can come back in the 9th inning, if we “turn on the switch”
but 1 loss isnt the end of the world. Let’s try to take the series.
ralphie, here’s what you don’t understand. boston has lost to the o’s i think 4 times in over 2 years.
while we’re about to get beat game 1 of the series against them.
Damon and Matsui are both hitting well over .300 now
We could sure use them. Games in April are just as important as games in July.
Hate to beat a dead horse but…
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There is no quicker way to lose me on a post.
Is it a mental thing that Tex takes a while to get going being as its such a consistent thing year in and year out? Maybe he needs to mix up his off season work outs?
“You just cannot do nothing for 15% of the season and not expect it is going to hurt the team.”
I agree, the games in April count too.
Damon and Matsui slumped too. They are gone. Whining about it won’t change it.
If Girardi manages the pen better tonight, they win, despite the O not producing.
At some point, the offense will carry the team.
Right now, they needed help from the manager and using the bullpen correctly and that didn’t happen tonight.
And Boston brings in a journeyman reliever to close out a 1-run game on the road, and he gets them down 1-2-3 easily.
We bring in our best reliever next to MO and he gives up 3 runs with 2 outs to the 3-16 Orioles.
So much for the dreadful Boston bullpen, eh? Ours is just as bad.
Captain Fail.
Baltimore will break through and win this series
terrible scoring…thats an error
wow. our offense making the worst bullpen in the history of mlb look like cy youngs.
Im sorry. I made a mistake.
We didnt mail this game in.
We Fedexed it in. Overnight delivery!
It’s only sickening because it happened to the Orioles.
The Red Sox tried Fedexing their games against the Orioles, but in 2 of them, the Orioles refused delivery!
This whole team is just asleep right now. Jeter with this error, Arod was slow to turn a DP, Tex couldn’t pick a ball out of the dirt like he usually does, Cano and Posada with the baserunning blunders, and Winn with the awful throw.
The sky is falling crowd have arrived.
Excellent.
hey at least they went to the white house yesterday.
Thats an error, not even close.
We can always get back Damon and Matsui next year.
Cashman likes to acquire the “Cashman All Stars”. I think they’re both on 1year deals.
This game is not over yet. Yankees have come from behind before! And there are still 2 more games left in a 3 game series. Let’s not go to crazy.
how did joe mismanage the pen? by bringing in one of our best relievers to give up 3 hits and 2 runs? i dont see how joe mismanaged. the lefty lefty walked and roberton couldnt get an out.
SJ-
Hopefully CC will have better control than his last game. Again he’s going on 5 days rest.
Hughes didn’t have his best stuff or command but he battled like Andy often does. 5.2 IP 1 run and 2 hits is good. Minimizing the damage when the bases were loaded shows how much he has matured over the last year or two. Good things ahead for Phil Hughes!
“ralphie, here’s what you don’t understand. boston has lost to the o’s i think 4 times in over 2 years.
while we’re about to get beat game 1 of the series against them.”
bob, here’s what you don’t understand. this is a yankee blog, if your such a big red sox fan why don’t you go over to some boston site and have a laugh with your buddies.
we don’t need to hear about how great boston is against the orioles.
by leaving robertson in after he hit tejada, tex.
An 0-2 count to Wigginton and Robertson had to hit him, turning point in game….
I think our bullpen will figure things out eventually. It’s hard not to think so with the talent they have, past experience, and the fact that they won’t be overworked. It’s just that in April, no one really knows their roles yet, including the manager.
“Hate to beat a dead horse but I wanted both Matsui and Damon back and Cashman didn?t or whatever happened?..”
Keith, there is no way to tell how either Matsui or Damon would be playing if they were still with the Yankees. Damon was offered the opportunity and turned it down, from what I understand. If you remember Matsui had problems with his knees throughout the year last season. The Yankees would have had to commit a starting lineup position to him, and they weren’t going to put him in the field. So he would have had to come back as DH. There were games when he DHd last season and had problems with his knees. It was okay because they had a tandem DHing. They couldn’t have done it this year and kept Matsui.
It is always easy to look at what someone is doing for another team, but the absolute truth is that nobody can know that the player would be doing the same thing were he still with the Yankees.
was someone ready in the pen after the HBP?
We’re fans and we’re allowed to act like the sky is falling….some losses are fine with me, like the west coast trip losses where its tough to play and we went 3-3….but playing like this against a terrible O’s team just doesn’t sit well with me…..
“”Hard to understand what Joe was thinking in that inning.”"”
Maybe you can call your imaginary friend Aroid and ask him what’s up?
Come on, Trip Randy!!
How could I forget, we have Winn for his defense, and he tripped while throwing a ball that could have been the end of the inning.
If ever a guy didnt deserve his surname, it’s Winn!!
So if Girardi overmanages this, what does Eiland do? Does he say anything?
ralphie, i read this blog by the hour. i’m a diehard yankees fan, and am just venting my frustration in the fact that boston (and other teams who i believe are less talented than the yankees) beats the crap out of horrendous teams like the o’s. while the yankees just play horrible baseball and give these free wins away.
Robertson is not trusted. I don’t know, I got bad feeling about pen.
Im sick of fans jumping off the bandwagon only to jump back on. I swear I sometimes miss the old days when the Yanks stunk in the 80s. At least you knew you had true fans following the team. I think 1/4 of our “fans” are now bandwagoners who only root when things are going well.
lol, what a throw by one of core 4?
Posada giveth and Posada taketh away… taketh more than giveth in this particular case…
yikes. not the best game on D or on the bases.
This was totally predictable, Balt. has to win sometime and I KNEW it would be in this series.
They have some good young hitters that haven’t hit much yet.
Maybe Vasquez and NJ should have played after all.
As long as the Yankees keep playing .500 baseball, or around that percentage, for the next couple of months, I have no problem with them. Then, when July comes around, and August peeks around the corner, they can get hot and get 20 games over .500 and be on their way.
This early in the season is extended Spring Training anyway.
People getting upset this early in the season are either new baseball fans, or borderline hysterics.
Either way, it ain’t good.
Ed
The Yankees had the most wins of any team in the 80s. There just happened to be no wild card.
Posada has looked every bit his age this season behind the plate. People talk about Boston’s catchers Posada hasn’t been much better.
some of us are just discussing what is wrong and not ship jumping.
can we discuss what is going wrong, or is that wrong too?
And I can turn this off now. I need sleep.
“ralphie, i read this blog by the hour. i’m a diehard yankees fan, and am just venting my frustration in the fact that boston (and other teams who i believe are less talented than the yankees) beats the crap out of horrendous teams like the o’s. while the yankees just play horrible baseball and give these free wins away.”
so how did the yankees win a world series last year if they just GIVE AWAY all these free games like flyers on the street in Manhattan..its like the yankees are a chinese food resturant and are JUST HANDING OUT these menus to everyone walking by
Goodnight. Tomorrow another day.
Any mismanaging of the bull pen tonight is secondary.
The mismanagement was of the starting pitcher. Logan never should have pitched to Scott in the first place.
Hughes gutted out the entire night. He game up 2 hits. He should have had the chance to get Scott.
The Orioles must love when they play the Yanks. At least they know its an automatic win or 2. They must be excited for win #4.
Ed, Id say that most of us are real fans, but tonight, very frustrated and just venting.
but i dont care what the ‘hardcore’ fans say… this is embarrassing. their pen has shut us down so far, when they have been otherwise incapable of getting outs and ours took a gutsy game by phil and blew it.
i still think we can win the game, but that doesnt change that the baserunning, the D, and the offense has looked awful TODAY.
agreed, tex. just because you vent about how the team you love shouldn’t have lost a game to a pathetic group of scrubs who are 3-16 DOESN’T mean that you have given up or are a fair-weather fan.
I know they’re going to be fine and will bounce back, but as with anything you’re passionate about, you get a bit upset. And that’s what people do on here sometimes, they vent. Sorry.
# CB April 27th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Any mismanaging of the bull pen tonight is secondary.
The mismanagement was of the starting pitcher. Logan never should have pitched to Scott in the first place.
Hughes gutted out the entire night. He game up 2 hits. He should have had the chance to get Scott.
I’m sorry Logan didn’t do his job. D-Rob didn’t do his job. Bad defense. Bad base running. It happens.
This is just ugly now.
this is so pathetic that it’s almost comical at this point. they are truly awful.
This is really embarrassing. Aceves hasn’t been good at about a year now but he is one of Girardi’s guys. So I guess he is ok with giving this game away.
Bad offense also.
ralphie, I give up. you’re way too stupid to hold a conversation with. I don’t even understand what your last sentence meant.
SJ, I don’t know. I know tonight isn’t pretty – Jorge just throws the ball into CF – but you can’t have your starters give you 8 every time out and then Mo for the 9th. At some point, you have to get your players into real games, all the side sessions and throwing in the pen won’t suffice to prepare them for game time use.
And it’s not like Robertson is a stiff. He proved that last year. His problem may just be lack of work, as side product of the starters going deep the last run thru the rotation.
Some nights are real stinkers. Tonight looks like one. What’s the saying, you win a third of the games, lose a third, and contest the last third. Let’s hope tonight is one of the third they’re destined to lose. And come back out tomorrow.
I guess they can blame on the whitehouse trip,
hr?
This team is really asleep tonight. I guess the reports of them being exhausted were on the mark because they have been systematically bad tonight in multiple phases of the game.
They’ve played excellent defense all night and now they are just whiffing on balls that plays need to be made on.
This is one of those games you just chalk up and forget. It’s part of why it’s difficult to play on the road.
agreed bob. now some people here are ridiculous, but most are just talking about the issues we see and venting about what has been a pathetic showing from the time hughes left the game.
Think NJ will pinch hit for Winn?
“ralphie, I give up. you’re way too stupid to hold a conversation with. I don’t even understand what your last sentence meant.”
thanks bob, that means a lot coming from you. I look forward to seeing how many more games the yankees give away this year. Everytime they do I will think of you.
“This was totally predictable, Balt. has to win sometime and I KNEW it would be in this series.
They have some good young hitters that haven?t hit much yet.”
We have to remember that the Orioles have been scoring scads of runs. They hadn’t been able to close it out because of their relief pitching. We saw it happen in beantown all weekend. Baltimore would have swept the Sux if it weren’t for their late inning relief pitching.
Baltimore has no trouble scoring runs. Kevin Millwood is a good pitcher.
(That’s why it’s never wise to call a team terrible based on the bottom line alone. Anyone who’s watched their games knows that their losses have basically come with their relief. They haven’t had much of a problem with starting pitching or offense.)
That’s my opinion. I respect that others may see it differently.
To clarify – in no way did Girardi lose this game. Not even close.
He made tactical mistakes but those were just mistakes. That’s not why the team lost this game.
The players were systematically terrible in multiple phases of the game.
well, if they lose any besides tonight in the series, they will have. so think of me in the next couple days if that happens.
Oh, by the way.
Last year I wanted the Yankees to resign Matsu, and let Damon walk. Well they let them both walk and signed Nick Johnson. Although Johnson is a very nice hitter, and can spell Mark over at first, I think Matsu is one of the best clutch hitters in all of baseball.
Mark my words, the Yanks will wish they still had Godzilla when August and September roll around.
agreed about the o’s offense, but that doesnt explain how their horrible pen is shutting the yankees down like they are the best pen in the league.
We always seem to have trouble with Baltimore. Achilles heel, I guess.
Joe has won a Manager of the Year award and a WS ring in his three full seasons of managing. He must know something about his job.
Someone once said all you hope to do in April is stay close, while your team rounds into shape for the long season. Looking at the standings it looks like that they’re staying close.
I guess they want the Sox to catch them and the Rays to put a few games distance between them. That’s what this lackadasical play is doing.
Remember that poster who said that this season wouldn’t be “fun” because of all the winning? that sure turned around in a hurry. We’re going to be in a dogfight.
Orioles are using a AAA pitcher who was just called up from the minors to close this out. Embarrassing…
Seems like Granderson has been in 0-2 counts a lot lately.
whitesox will invade. tough games ahead.
well a bit outside, but whatever………
Joe put his BEST MIDDLE RELIEVER in the game with 2 outs and a runner on base… and he proceeds to give up 3 runs.
Don’t blame Joe. Who did you want him to bring in? Marte? Joba?
The pen does not have 1 reliable arm at the moment outside MO. That is the issue. Whoever he brings in is bound to blow it;
another ball outside called strike 3
“That’s why it’s never wise to call a team terrible based on the bottom line alone.”
But it is wise to say a team is good based on the bottom line alone?
LOL
That’s how the Orioles bullpen succeeds against us.
CHEAP STRIKE 3!
It seems every time Girardi goes to the well these days he’s pulling up a drowned skunk.
It’s good they built themselves a nice little cushion early. Let’s hope this sudden appearance of the “April Yankees” leaves as quickly as they came.
Right now, they only have one guy in the bullpen capable of getting outs and that’s Mo.
So, you have two options:
1. The starters go 8 and you hand it off to Mo.
2. The offense scores enough runs that even this bullpen can’t blow the game.
You have periods like this over the course of the season and this is one of them.
They need to find guys who can pitch out of the pen. Right now, they don’t have anybody.
Yes, they are tired and yes, they are sleepwalking. However, if you don’t have anybody capable of getting bad hitters out, its hard to think they are going to get good hitters out.
Its why bullpens are so up and down. You never know what you are going to get from year to year.
Looks like they will need to find 5 arms somehow over the next month, as they have had to do the last two years to remake the pen.
Seems to be an annual thing for the Yankees these days.
Curtis gets called out on a pitch in the opposite batter’s box. Not much you can do.
If we have trouble with BAL, we will be No.3 in AL east
Shows how little faith Trembley has in our offense – he uses some guy who they JUST CALLED UP today from AAA to close this game. They are not even using their closer.
Getting swept by the Orioles,
what a low this is going to be.
The good news is that maybe the Orioles used up all their good relievers tonight.
why are they burned out already?
Michael Kay:
“He is throwing gas, which is also coming out of my mouth”
Sj -you’re ready to remake the bullpen in April, after only three weeks?
“Getting swept by the Orioles,
what a low this is going to be.”
i hear the mega-millions is up near $200 million…can i get some numbers to play?
Here we go!
Let’s see Simon moan!
Sorry.
i dont think we will get swept so relax there.
“# Joe from Long Island April 27th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Curtis gets called out on a pitch in the opposite batter’s box. Not much you can do.”
There is something that can be done.
Like that high school pitcher/catcher, in which the catcher ducked down and let the pitcher drill the ump with a fastball.
Just like drilling an opposing batter. Stand up for your team.
The red sox just have better hitters and pitchers than we do.
It’s not like a guy hitting .135 scares the other team.
Face it, this bullpen sucks. There is no Hughes. Heck, there is not even a Phil Coke.
Our pen is like any middle of the road pen – 60% inconsistency, 40% reliability. and most of that 40% is in the form of MO.
The Yankees bull pen was no worse tonight than the offense was.
They’ve scored two runs against a team that has gotten beat up night after night.
The pen is going to be fine.
Thinks are so bad that even jock sniffing SJ is raking Girardi
how do you know what is a strike and not? that was better than curtis granderson’s strike 3
I guess NJ is patiently waiting for that 85mph fast ball right down the middle.
# Joe from Long Island April 27th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Sj -you’re ready to remake the bullpen in April, after only three weeks?
Its a fake SJ lol
the way things are going. don’t be so sure.
Who wants to bet? And how much?
the sox are not better than we are.
this is a bad game thats all. but it has been BAD so far.
“The red sox just have better hitters and pitchers than we do.”
Why do they have a losing record? its all on there defense aint it…
Maybe there is a strict pitch count with Phil? That could explain why Joe didn’t let Phil face Scott. I know it’s not because he lacks faith – so what could it be? Seriously? Just the fact that Logan is a lefty? Phil is a better pitcher on a horrible day than Logan on his very best day. That said, Logan and co. HAVE to get the job done; even if the manager makes a mistake, they have a job to do and they didn’t do it. The offense is scuffling and has been for a few days. I buy that the team is tired; they’ve been on the road for almost a month; they’ve had exactly 6 home games.
They are a much better team than the O’s and the O’s caught them on the right night. I sense a lot of anger towards the Yankees, which is ridiculous. They are not playing well – it happens. Unfortunately, the Rays and Sox are – but this is a LONG season.
Why is he jock-sniffing SJ?
Because he doesn’t jump all over people after 18 games in a season?
Because he doesnt insult a World Series reigning winning manager?
Johnson just took a fastball right down the middle?? He has the same problem right now like Gardner. They are being too patient.
Embarrassing game for the Yankees. Did they expect to just show up a beat a 3-15 team?
Ha, you just know this CHump was itching to ring up NJ.
Tying run at the plate…would be nice to only be down by 1 or 2 runs at this point.
ha.. lucky. does jeter have the 3 run hr in him?
“The red sox just have better hitters and pitchers than we do”
LOL, I would not go that far. Better pitchers? maybe
I’m a Doctor, not an arm chair manager – Damn it!
The fatigue excuse is garbage.
Kay said they were back in their hotels by 6 PM yesterday – plenty of time to rest.
Tonight, they will arrive back at their hotels around midnight. So if they were tired yesterday, what does that say about their fatigue level with even less sleep tomorow?
No off-day until next Thursday.
Johnson did his job here. He got the tying run to the plate.
Two runs against the worst team in baseball. Unreal.
quickly 0-2 by core 4 captain
Hopefully its not a usual Jeter DP.
TRUTH: the red sox do NOT have better pitchers OR hitters then we do.
Stop crying about Damon and Matsui. They were great but they are gone. Get over it.
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Gutsy performance by Hughes.
too close to take with this ump today
William Shatner: “Im a doctor, not a manager, unless it’s versus the Yankees”
Marcus Thames?
well not likely to get a 3 run hr from gardner.
Cy Simon
Tex is going deep here for the 3 run HR
that’s a ball
This game is on clueless Joe
I am not a huge fan of the pen myself, but they don’t have to remake it; 5 arms? I hope that’s a fake SJ………
It’s a fine line we walk criticizing Tex. He’s a terrific player, but he is hurting the team badly; he gives up a whole month of the season every year.. That said, Alex hasn’t hit that great (no power), Granderson is in a slump, Swisher hasn’t been great. I mean, that’s a huge chunk of the lineup not doing squat. Eventually they’re going to be fine…..but hopefully eventually will come soon.
At least we can take one positive from the game and it’s a huge one: Phil.
If BG draws a walk, maybe Teixeira gets one huge hit.
in field hit, or BAL error
Bad at bat by Jeter. That pitch was not close.
this game is on the offense and robertson.
SWING THE BAT
The Orioles pitchers are actually trying to throw strikes versus us.
I told you! error
Come on Tex!!!
“Kay said they were back in their hotels by 6 PM yesterday – plenty of time to rest.”
There was also the jet lag from the West Coast trip. I’m sure that the ride through Oakland and LA was more tiring than just the White House trip itself.
wow.
Gotta love the pressure Brett puts on the D.
Oh boy.
Keep hope alive.
Again Gardner causes a fielder to rush.
Shatner stressing out LOL
MARK TEIXEIRA IS UP!!!!
BRETT has to steal immediately!
Sheesh, Jeter has only been a huge contributor to 5 WS teams and is one of the only players hitting and what do we get? Snide comments even before he makes an out. He’s human for pete’s sake;
Like I sid Tex is going deep three run HR
They are even trying to help the Yanks….
Gardner is in the heads of infielders around the AL. They are over reacting.
I’m a Doctor, not a stathead – Damn it!
TEx!!!!
Oh Tex. Make them pay for their transgressions!
a hit? from tex?
Carl – It’s still a stupid statement!
And Alex can win it!
That insurance run Ace gave up is a real kicker now.
Come on Alex!
Um so this game finally got a bit interesting…
Thats a good sign from Tex whether they win or not. come on Arod.
ALEX IS UP!!!!
now A-Rod
Nice hit, now it would stink to lose because of that last run that they allowed to score.
It was a common refrain last season… win or lose, they almost always make it interesting before it’s said and done.
This is entertainment!
Alex just needs to keep it simple here and take the ball back up the box.
walk arod for cano? no chance.
first pitch again!?!?!?!
Terrible loss. Terrible
Bleh.
CR@P
Awww.. so close. That was almost a base hit there for Alex. *sigh*
“Alex just needs to keep it simple here and take the ball back up the box.”
That’s what he did.
We just got screwed.
A base hit up the middle, and the infield takes it away.
So that extra run the Yankees gave them that last inning ended up costing them the game
Alex just needs to keep it simple here and take the ball back up the box.
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He did just that, unfortunately the orioles had him played well. Tough loss but at least the Yanks didn’t give up, they kept fighting hard.
arod had 5 ABs tonight and i would be stunned if he saw 10 pitches.
The horror…..the horror….
So that extra run the Yankees gave them that last inning ended up costing them the game
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fallacy of the predetermined outcome
Wow. I thought that was definitely a hit right off the bat.
Unbelievable… bull****!
Does anyone else utterly despise Michael Kay?
That was a tough loss…4 of the Orioles 5 runs were scored w/2 outs.
if tex wasnt on first, that would have been a single.
“Alex just needs to keep it simple here and take the ball back up the box.”
unfortunately Lugo was thinking the same thing
The bullpen is a disaster. Robertson have fun in scranton
Alex did exactly what he needed to do. The orioles infield was playing in the right place. That ball was close to getting through the infield.
That was a situation where having the runner on at first worked against the yanks. Gave the fielder a short play.
keep things in perspective…………19 games in the books, just SIX at home so far
Of course Lugo is playing up the middle. Sloppy play cost them in the end. Jeter on a ball right to him and Posada throwing the ball into CF. Hopefully they wake up for tomorrow’s game.
The bullpen management aside, it seemed like the game was lost early on with some great scoring opportunities and only one run to show for it.
that had the feel of a big hit from arod…is he not clutch again btw?
We just got screwed.
A base hit up the middle, and the infield takes it away.
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Um thats how the game of baseball is played, I thought, lol.
The opposing teams infield isn’t actually out there to LET the Yankees score at will, the previous two AB’s notwithstanding, lol.
damn.
I guess they will be back to sleep mode after a brief wake up call.
Julio Lugo???
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Don Orsillo grows a goatee after the Rays series to try and get some luck for the Red Sox.
Michael Kay has to bring up stats to try and jinx things. He refuses to go along with baseball’s oldest tradition of not mentioning a no hitter.
That play at 2nd was close. Someone other than Tex or Posada running and he might have been safe.
Damn Jeter error in the 8th really hurt. They played a sloppy game.
Sigh….I’m glad they didn’t give up, even though they lost. They really didn’t deserve to win, though – they did too many things wrong.
kate hudson where are you?
Angel
lol
It was good to see the offense at least pick it up in the 9th. They didn’t go down easy and that’s good to see.
This was just one of those games where things were broken all around.
Fortunately tomorrow they have their ace going.
# RalphieD (OPPC) April 27th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
that had the feel of a big hit from arod…is he not clutch again btw?
Um what? Is this a joke.
Lohud is a joke compared to River Ave now. Lohud I bow out from this place until the trolls or banished!
RMS –
If that was directed at me you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about:
1. I’m not “crying” about it.
2. They are gone? Wow, who knew?
3. We shall see if the Yanks get over it when they need a clutch hit come later in the season.
Nighty nite!
At least this was a loss that can be blamed on about 10 different players.
So close. CC the stopper will right this ship. Yanks made it extra fun at the end.
Don Orsillo is growing a goatee for Bruins playoff hockey – no to try and get luck for the Red Sox.
I refuse to blame this game on Joe. For whatever reason, he took Phil out, but the other guys didn’t have to screw up; they did, though. They didn’t get the job done and that’s on them. The Yanks played badly in every aspect of the game – it’s hard to win when that happens.
So is that 4 losses out of the last 5 then?
It’s ok, the Yanks started hot they were bound to go into a funk at some point. If they win the next two and come out with a series win I’ll be happy. Sabathia vs Guthrie should be in our favor but Burnett vs Matusz will be a tough one.
I will pop in to say, atleast Hughes gutted out his 5.2 IP and boy he doesnt like to give up hits does he?
I would kill for a post-game show now; I hate My 9.
educator
even worse. he is looking for luck for a team he doesnt cover. only because they are in the same city.
Michael Kay couldnt care about anybody but Michael Kay and his own arrogant fat head.
Girardi will use the pitch-count excuse for pulling Phil.
Sloppy play on the field. Sloppy managing.
Phil hung in there with sub par stuff.
Jerkface, imagine what it will be like when he has his good control on a more consistent basis? Kid has stuff….
“keep things in perspective…………19 games in the books, just SIX at home so far”
I really agree. The opening to their schedule has been brutal. Not only have over 2/3 of their games been on the road but that road trip has included a west coast swing.
This is one of the more difficult stretches they are going to play all year.
They faced the Rays and Sox on the road. Had to make a west coast trip.
Tonight they looked sluggish. The bull pen, the offense, and the defense.
Turn the page – if they take 2 of the next 3 it’ll be a good way to end the road trip.
Hopefully the bats pick up tomorrow and give the pitchers some cushion.
I ‘ll bet there is a pitch count, though. The problem with that is if it’s a strict PC, that leaves the manager no wriggle room.. I think Phil could have thrown a few more pitches – it wouldn’t have killed him.
1st win at home for the O’s.
Prepare to met your maker Orioles!
CC is angry. And he doesn’t like you very much.
I’m not worried at all about the team overall; the pen? A little.
You cannot pin this loss on anyone. This was the definition of a team loss with the manager included.
Yeah, talk about putting things into perspective.
Compare this season to last:
2010: 12-7, 100 runs scored, 72 allowed.
2009: 9-10, 102 runs scored, 126 allowed.
The O’s pen have looked worst to me in the past than they have tonight.
Does My 9 really have to interview Nolan Reimold? I don’t care -I want to hear from Yankees, not Os.
This was just one of those games where things were broken all around.
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CB,
I agree with that. This was a frustrating game because the Yankees had so many chances to score and to get out of innings unscathed. There are so many plays and decisions to point to.
The O’s draw first blood
but Trembley is still trembling
CC spells O’s doom!
Hey CB, how’s Gusieppe Franco doing?
Logan and winn need to be dfa’d
Nick in SF April 27th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
The O’s draw first blood
but Trembley is still trembling
CC spells O’s doom!
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Nice.
Nick, I can always count on you to make me
“Um what? Is this a joke.
Lohud is a joke compared to River Ave now. Lohud I bow out from this place until the trolls or banished!”
obviously its a joke, but unfortunately im sure some people feel that way.
Pepi-
Fortunately GF is doing considerably better. He is starting to pop in more often and it’s good to both hear he’s getting better and to have him back.
I was chatting with him a few times over the past few days.
I believe he’s upping his rehab and continuing to improve at a steady pace.
It’s really tough all that he went through.
Well there is some good news tonight.
Ed Randall is not wearing his plaid jacket. Nice job there.
Pepitone
“SJ44 April 27th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Damon and Matsui slumped too. They are gone. Whining about it won’t change it.”
Understand?
CB -
Thanks for the update, that’s great news!
Randall sounded like he was asleep. He didn’t exactly say anything new….too bad we won’t get any quotes from Phil, but I guess I’ll have to read the papers for that.
I can’t wait for this team to get home.
“This was a frustrating game because the Yankees had so many chances to score and to get out of innings unscathed.”
I know people are going to focus on the pen and clearly they weren’t good.
But most non-Mo pitchers are in the bull pen for a reason – they have some kind of limitation or defect to their game. That’s why they aren’t starters. A bull pen only gets so good.
Part of the way the yankees are built is that they’re offense is supposed to carry a lot of the load. They are supposed to build leads and given the team a cushion.
It is much easier to pitch out of the pen with a relatively safe lead than it is when there is no margin for error.
The offense is going to get going – I have a feeling it may take them getting back home before they break out but it’ll happen.
And they will get back to being the brutal line up they were over the first 8 games or so only Tex and Johnson will also be hitting.
Twitter postgame
Ledger_Yankees Hughes: “I felt pretty bad out there” Hughes #NYY
Ledger_Yankees Robertson: “We let it snowball.” #NYY
Aww, poor Phil………well, he did pretty good for feeling pretty bad.
That’s putting it mildly, Dave, lol
I’ve been the 1st to 2nd guess Giradi for leaving his starters in too long, and yanking his relievers too soon……However tonight I give Joe a pass on pulling Hughes when he did….Scoot is the one guy in the O’s lineup that can hurt you with one swing…..The matchup was the right call……Robertson ( who some called for this winter to be the setup man ) also gave it up tonight…..Guys do their job and this discussion is a non factor……Pulling Hughes in my opinion was the right call…….
Robertson should have pitched the 8th instead of Joba… LOL
I hate to say it but Sox might’ve turned the corner this past week. They went 6 of 8 while we’ve gone 3 of 7. They’re no longer toast.
Hughes was at 109 pitches. Logan should have got his man and no way should Robertson have allowed that many hits.
We have too many outs in this lineup. This game should have been a blowout early but we are not hitting now. With Tex slumping and Arod really struggling the others can’t carry a team. Gardner, Winn, Granderson vs leftys, too many outs. We will be trading for a bat well before the deadline. I’ll bet Winn’s gone by May 15th, why is he on this team, he’s done.
Pat M, I could take or leave Joe’s decision to yank Phil; that is, I can see both sides to the argument. Basically I agree with you – these guys didn’t do their jobs, none of them.
Girardi:
Hughes was at 110 and had worked hard the first 5 innings so he was coming out.
Gritty performance by PH tonite.
He is exceeding even the most positive expectations for him so far.
How good is it when a young pitcher clearly doesn’t have his best stuff and he holds a good hitting team to 1 run and a few hits.
Great job.
RMS -
Keith–FL April 27th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Hate to beat a dead horse but I wanted both Matsui and Damon back and Cashman didn’t or whatever happened…..I mean we won the World Series with those guys and you can tell out offense misses them….Nick Johnson hurt and Winn a joke…Gardner having to play everyday…..each year is a new year Cashman and right now your moves don’t look too good
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1. He’s not whining.
2. He has a point. We shall know more as the season wears on.
3. SJ was responding to his comment, not mine. You decided to come late to the party there, champ.
4. “Understand”?
But, thanks for playing. You may go now.
Girardi
When you walk a guy and hit a guy you aren’t helping yourself.
Mets = Bad
Mets + Ike Davis = Good!
Pre-Ike record = 4-8
Post-Ike arrival = 8-1!
Pat, that’s what I thought. It’s not like those were 109 fairly easy pitches – he’d worked his butt off to even get that far (thought he might be out earlier). I assume he didn’t want to push a tired Phil to the point where he might injure himself.
Good Citi info
Manuel’s cackles return
is Ike the savior?
Pat, was Joe on My 9? I turned it off…
ERA W-L SO WHIP
2.00 2-0 18 0.94
Thse are Phil’s stats….
I sure hope the Mets keep it going.
I never attend Mets-Yanks because of the relevance of the games being completely out of balance with the so-called “Subway Series” hype and preambles.
I protest by scalping my tickets. If the Mets keep winning, I’ll fetch an even better price for this superfluous exchange of at bats.
I didn’t watch the game so can’t know what things looked like at any point, but I do know that any time the Yankees lose, it seems the popular thing to do is blame Girardi and his bullpen management.
I tried to skim through the posts as the games were going on, and I seriously only got to see bits and pieces but it seems that posters were upset that Joe left Robertson in too long. If that’s not accurate please tell me. But if it is the thing that strikes me as strange is that some people have been absolutely ballistic any time Joe takes Robertson out; tonight he leaves him in and people are absolutely ballistic – or so it seemed.
At some point isn’t it really a matter of the guys just getting the job done?
Sure sometimes in retrospect Girardi may feel there are things he should have done differently, but for the most part wouldn’t you think he knows how to manage a game and knows the bullpen moves to make?
If I mischaracterized the comments, I apologize.
I can’t get on Girardi for pulling Phil @ 109 pitches. (although it would’ve been 11/31 starts with 6 IP <4hits)
The bullpen failed, plain & simple.
And the offense woke up too late.
Good job by Phil gutting his way through a good start.
Back on the bump tomorrow.
Scott isn’t some rummy lefthand hitter, he’s a homerun hitter…..So Giradi just didn’t go to his over zealous matchup instincts, this was a warranted call for the lefty, who by the way has looked good as of late…….It was a meltdown, and many melted
# trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 27th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
“This was totally predictable, Balt. has to win sometime and I KNEW it would be in this series.
They have some good young hitters that haven?t hit much yet.”
We have to remember that the Orioles have been scoring scads of runs. They hadn’t been able to close it out because of their relief pitching. We saw it happen in beantown all weekend. Baltimore would have swept the Sux if it weren’t for their late inning relief pitching.
Baltimore has no trouble scoring runs. Kevin Millwood is a good pitcher.
(That’s why it’s never wise to call a team terrible based on the bottom line alone. Anyone who’s watched their games knows that their losses have basically come with their relief. They haven’t had much of a problem with starting pitching or offense.)
That’s my opinion. I respect that others may see it differently.
Nothing wrong in what you say, but I was just pointing out that Markakis, Scott, and Jones aren’t hitting yet and were probably due sooner rather than later. There pitching is still most atrocious, especially relief, but they have given Yanks some trouble for a while.
Get the next 2 and tonite’s game will fade to black.
I would have pulled Phil after the 5th, but as it turns out, I’m glad he went out for the 6th…..
Ike’s no gentile
He’s Chosen. but then again
Jesus was as well
Can I ask a question?
Why, when a team wins the World Series do they not visit the White House until the following season when parts of the team have changed?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to visit the White House in the winter right after winning the title with the whole team intact?
The guys looked tired tonight.
Why distract them during the season for this?
I’m not saying that’s the sole reason they lost, but it sure looked like some of them could have used their off day to be an actual off day.
The bullpen failed, plain & simple.
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And it was frustrating to watch them give it up with runs after two outs. A walk and a HBP.
Don’t forget Yanks will make changes when necessary, and get some help when needed.
Winn, as I said a few days ago, is not long to be a Yank. Golson would make a nice replacement. ( the sooner the better ) If not soon, they will go after a major leaguer probably.
It’s a long tough season ! A few hitters not on board yet !
Sorry Lohudders-
Tonight I chose the lighthearted whimsy of Glee over this depressing game thread.
Tomorrow will be a better game. I feel it in my bones!
Good point, GLove – I don’t know. I can’t blame these guys for being tired; they aren’t robots.
Pepitone
How about discussing the 2010 Yankees? What is the point of lamenting the fact that Matsui and Damon are not Yankees?
Ike is no Gentile…
# bodhisattva – Destiny Wears Pinstripes April 27th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
I sure hope the Mets keep it going.
I never attend Mets-Yanks because of the relevance of the games being completely out of balance with the so-called “Subway Series” hype and preambles.
I protest by scalping my tickets. If the Mets keep winning, I’ll fetch an even better price for this superfluous exchange of at bats.
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Bingo!
I do exactly the same. And with the secondary market being as bad as it’s been? Go Mets!
1 Met-Yankee ticket can pay for 3 games if all goes well.
Good game by Hughes today. Too bad the bullpen couldn’t hold the lead.
57 Yank, I’m not disagreeing with you. They were definitely due. I was really talking more to people who think the team is atrocious. They’re not really. They had a major component that was dreadful – and maybe it will continue to be – but they’ve had some nice starting pitching and some good offense that will even be better, as you say, when they start hitting.
I was also pointing out that Millwood is a good pitcher. So tonight may have been a potential recipe for disaster, though I understand that the Yankees hurt themselves in several innings.
Fran,
Wasn’t it? And 4 straight singles? p-o-o-p
It wasn’t just the BP that failed tonite.
Jeter’s error, and Jorge’s Sailfish allowed the deciding run.
It was just a bad game without enough luck.
It happens.
Just let it go.
And hit the reset button for Weds.
1 Met-Yankee ticket can pay for 3 games if all goes well.
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Exactly. Let them win! Go Mets! Ya Gotta Believe! Ka-ching!
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looks like Hughes won’t get to 20 wins. darn. i was hoping
Ike floats down the Nile
or is that the East River?
Let my people go!
Good night Yankee people
MTU, that’s all they can do….
mel,
That hurt and the extra run in the 8th off the error. Frustrating and the team really looked flat to me until the 9th when they started to show some life.
Well glad CC is pitching tomorrow and hopefully the bats will wake up too.
He’s 2-0, Igotid with a 2.00 ERA and a WHIP of .94; don’t worry – he’s off to a terrfic start.
Jorge:
Phil battled. Showed alot of maturity. Balls were coming back over the middle of the plate.
Granderson
We had an opportunity with the best hitters coming up to the plate. That’s what you want.
Some new young blood would be nice to replace Winn at this point. Golson, Winfree, or Curtis would be nice.
If at any point in the next 24 hours you are feeling mad about this game just go back and watch Winn’s “throw.” It will automatically make you laugh.
Pat, is this still the My 9 post game? By the way, thanks for posting this!
Good stuff – Phil is growing up before our eyes.
Grandy is right – and soon, the hits will come.
Before that Walton brick, the Lakers FG% was triple that of OKC. m is very happy.
But feeling bad for Baby Hughes.
M, hugs for Baby Phil….
“is this still the My 9 post game?”
Yup. Over now.
LGY,
Just watch BBT or espn, they keep pointing out Winn’s throw.
Ike helps my wallet
But jeers tix fall on Sabbath!
Ike Shomer Shabbat?
# trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! April 27th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
57 Yank, I’m not disagreeing with you. They were definitely due. I was really talking more to people who think the team is atrocious. They’re not really. They had a major component that was dreadful – and maybe it will continue to be – but they’ve had some nice starting pitching and some good offense that will even be better, as you say, when they start hitting.
I was also pointing out that Millwood is a good pitcher. So tonight may have been a potential recipe for disaster, though I understand that the Yankees hurt themselves in several innings.
Good observation, I agree. Yanks just don’t the pitching sometimes to stop the young agressive hitters of O’s. They do hit our pitching, so we have to out score them. You’re right, they do have a few good young pitchers, and you know how we do against some we haven’t faced much before.
What inning was this winn throw in?
http://www.myyesnetwork.com/16.....he_yankees
Good stuff from Jack. The Yankees played great up until recently and the Rays were right with them, even ahead of them. Of course, the Yanks had a brutal schedule. This won’t be a runaway for either team (or the Sox)….
I know GGBG is exceeding expectations so far but can anyone tell me why he doesn’t try to bunt more ????
It’s a mystery to me.
And yes, Millwood is a good established pitcher. Veterans of his caliber can beat the good teams often.
lol, Betsy.
If Phil makes it through the season intact, it’ll be because of all the protective “parent” fans.
Ugh, thanks Pat. I had turned it off – oh well. I appreciate your posting the recap for dummies like me, lol.
Jerkface,
Bottom of the 6th
LOL M, he’s being mothered to death.
I felt bad when I read the tweet that said he felt really bad out there; that must have been so frustrating. I’m glad he overcame that tonight, but I hope they can fix what went wrong (unless it was just one of those nights).
Betsy,
Felt bad how? I figured he’d take some of it on himself. The 4 walks cost him an inning easily.
Hey don’t forget Baltimore helped the Yanks cause as well……Sloppy game 4 errors, spotty pen, poor situational hitting……When I saw this series on the schedule I cringed
M, I think he meant that he just felt bad as far as not having anything….. that has to be frustrating. However, he and Jorge found a way to deal with that…
Betsy-
So far Phil has been nothing short of phenomenal.
There’s not much to fix.;)
Pat M the fortune teller, lol. The Yankees were not playing great coming in and I always respect the other team. Plus, baseball is not football where sheer talent overcomes everything else. The Yanks didn’t deserve to win, but they deserve a good night’s sleep, lol.
I?ve been the 1st to 2nd guess Giradi for leaving his starters in too long, and yanking his relievers too soon??However tonight I give Joe a pass on pulling Hughes when he did?.Scoot is the one guy in the O?s lineup that can hurt you with one swing?..The matchup was the right call??Robertson ( who some called for this winter to be the setup man ) also gave it up tonight?..Guys do their job and this discussion is a non factor??Pulling Hughes in my opinion was the right call??.
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Totally agree, Hughes had a high stress 110+ pitches. He was working hard. Better to protect the kid. With that floating strike zone, the kid had it tough. The second problem is that the BP isn’t getting much work, Robertson 5 innings in 20 games, not good. It’s the old can’t win – your starters go deep, tough to keep the BP working. This will all work out over time. But all the comments – no one mentioned Cano still on fire. Alex got robbed twice, Teix got a hit, Gardner scaring IFs. A lot of good stuff as well. These games happen some times. On to the next game.
MTU, it’s hard to argue with an ERA of 2 and 6 hits in 18 innings, lol. The walks will come down, naturally. I just meant that there might be mechanical issues to fix….
Hughes, as I’ve stated many times. has the make-up and head firmly on his shoulders to make a very good starter, he’s still quite young. Certainly has the “stuff.”
Wish ( and hope ) to say the same for Joba in future. ( as a closer or set-up guy)
mechanizing balls and strikes might work.
You mean the umps, M? Bad strike zones are one thing (unacceptable), but inconsistent ones are worse (disgraceful). How can any pitcher or hitter even have a plan of attack when the ump just makes these calls on a whim?
Pat M,
Your prediction was in my head during the 6th inning.
Were your ears ringing? Can’t really say I was thinking pleasantries.
nice all around effort tonight.
great baserunning by jorge. great D by jorge, jeter, and nice throw from winn. arod could and should have had the 5 run hit in the 8th..
great bullpen tonight overall and really nice effort. they were asleep and reading there headlines and asleep as they lost to a team they should have killed…
Betsy remember this was the place ( Camden Yards ) where Phil had the worst outing in his life, including all the way back to Little League……And the difficulty and adversity that he overcame tonight was a leap in years of maturity
Betsy-
I don’t think there is really anything to fix. His command was just a little off tonite. It happens to the best of them. Even that android named Halladay.
Sweet dreams.
μ τ υ signing off
So many cowardly appearances today.
“And yes, Millwood is a good established pitcher. Veterans of his caliber can beat the good teams often.”
Absolutely!
Again, if their relief held up over the weekend, they would have swept the Suxers.
Pat M, I was sort of worried about that tonight even though Phil is not the same pitcher he was even last year. You have to like the guts he showed – you can’t teach that.
i’m sure it’s been posted here. But there was this stat on Phil last week. Mentioned by Ryan Ruocco. That in his last 30 starts. At least 10 of them he went 6+ ip and 4 hits or less.
Betsy – Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) April 27th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MTU, it’s hard to argue with an ERA of 2 and 6 hits in 18 innings, lol. The walks will come down, naturally. I just meant that there might be mechanical issues to fix….
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And how many of those walks were umpire caused. at least half