Lineup: Another day off for Johnson
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I got something right: Gardner batting second.
Looking forward to seeing what Hughes and Gardner do tonight.
So no Johnson again.
I had the Randy Winn part right
Werth hit 36 HRs last year and walked 90 times. He is a perfect fit for the middle of that lineup. He is a good defensive player and also stole 20 bases.
Makes no sense for them to raid their farm and hand out a $200 million dollar deal to Gonzalez, when they can get Werth for about half the cost and no prospects. He gives them the power they need.
Winn vs. Millwood
11-18 (.611), 2 HRs, 2 doubles, 6 RBIs
I lost yet again.
johnson’s back must be worse than previously reported.
Craw-
“So no Johnson again.”
Back must still be feelin’ bad.
Keep in mind, Winn is 11 for 18 with 2 HRs career against Millwood. Girardi loves to play match-ups, just saying.
Here’s hoping it’s a Winn-win situation!
Yank1, we are both acutely aware of the powers of Google
Hope Winn can get it going a little bit.
Trevor April 27th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
When I saw your Gardner as #2 hitter I thought about following suit. Nice!
Erica
Nice lineup with Winn! That was a great idea.
It’s taking longer than I’d have liked for Nick to recuperate from his stiff back….
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....sada042710
Tim Brown interviews Posada on ranking pitches he’s caught, plus a few other questions.
muffinstump April 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
johnson?s back must be worse than previously reported
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he might be better, and Girardi just wanted to give him an extra day. I seem to remember him doing that quite a bit last year. I remember reading that Nick said he felt much better on Sunday.
Awful lineup
Why is NJ out AGAIN? He had a whole off-day to heal his back and said he felt fine on Sunday. This guy really is made of glass. How is he ever going to break out of his slump if he never plays?
Winn? Winn?? The guy who has yet to get a hit this season and looks overmatched?
Why is Gardner hitting 2nd? What sense does that make to have such a weak hitter hitting 2nd? He should either leadoff or bat 9th.
Looks like Hughes is going to have to be nearly perfect to win. He is not going to get much offense tonight.
damn. had it all except gardner and swish switched in the lineup.
Considering the match-ups favor starting Winn, and the fact that they just flew thousands of miles on Sunday which can never be too much fun regardless of a good back or not, it makes sense for them to hold NJ back another day. As long as there isn’t a report of it being worse than before, he should hopefully be in there against Guthrie tomorrow night.
Bronx Jeers April 27th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Doreen seems to be a very accommodating GTLU host.
The last one? Not so much.
I?m kidding Erica. You were and still are awesome!
By the way, have you seen Johnny?s new haircut?
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports&.....s.html.php
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My awesomeness will live on forever!!!!!!!!
And I kind of like Conehead Johnny Damon
NJ is out because Winn is something like 11-18 against millwood.
Mr. Girardi does it again!!!
upstate kate and Trevor came closest, but left out Winn. I will post the details on my blog.
Lots of combinations, a lot with the right idea – that Johnson would not play – but no one got it quite right.
if winn will get it going it is against millwood whose fastball is not real fast.
RayVT April 27th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Erica
Nice lineup with Winn! That was a great idea.
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I was invoking my inner Joe Girardi and checked the match ups. I saw Winn was .611 vs Millwood and knew he would be playing. I also figured it was a great chance to give Johnson an extra day if needed.
However, I didn’t know which position Winn would be playing or where in the order. I stuck him in as DH. Oops
There goes my 100% GTLU accuracy…..
Erin April 27th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
muffinstump April 27th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
johnson?s back must be worse than previously reported
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he might be better, and Girardi just wanted to give him an extra day. I seem to remember him doing that quite a bit last year. I remember reading that Nick said he felt much better on Sunday.
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could be, erin. let’s hope so. except when girardi dh’s posada and catches cervelli, i think the lineup is weaker without nj.
Girardi gives the same players days off all the time – Swisher, Posada, Granderson, Gardner, NJ.
How about giving guys days off who actually need it – like the infield? What the heck does Johnson do to need so many days off? Swing the bat 4 times a day?
If Winn can’t hit Millwood.. then stick a fork in him.
Millwood has pretty bad career numbers vs the Yankees (4.5ish era, 1.5 whip), so I’m not worried about what offense we roll out there today, put in Pena. Cano, Jeter, Arod, and Winn all have good numbers career off Millwood, so I think we’ll be OK. Granderson is the only regular (and posada to some extent) with bad numbers.
Tommy, you should forward your resume to the Yanks. I’m sure Cashman would love to have you manage instead of Girardi, since you clearly know so much more than he does.
I figured Winn would be in and Johnson would be out, so I thought Girardi had some competition today!
PC Dan got a little too unique for his own good. He switched up Cano & Posada in the order and Grandy & Gardy in the field.
Some pretty good guesses today, I think.
Erick… Johnson has day off to improve his back problems..there being cautious.
2010 will be the year Cano finally gets the respect he deserves.
I expect monster numbers from him by the end of the year.
As if 200 hits, 50 doubles, and flawless defense in 2009 wasn’t enough to open most people’s eyes……
Getting Winn more ABs is good because it will expose him and we can get him off the team (or it will envigorate him and he will become a valued contributor) either way I love the defense we’re putting out behind Hughes.
Gives him the best chance to succeed
Doreen,
Do I get credit for saying early today that Joe Girardi would win?
miggs – my money is on Cano to have a better career than teixeira.
Ledger_Yankees Vazquez to reporters: “Everybody’s entitled to their opinion.” Re: Schilling.
Hughes has no excuses tonight./ He has a great defense behind him and has mostly the A lineup. He is also facing a team that is 3-16 and the stadium will be filled with Yankees fans.
He better pitch well and he better not take us out of the game early.
Johnson – are you going to club him if he walks someone? Grow up.
Johnson April 27th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Hughes has no excuses tonight./ He has a great defense behind him and has mostly the A lineup. He is also facing a team that is 3-16 and the stadium will be filled with Yankees fans.
He better pitch well and he better not take us out of the game early.
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Or what? The season is over?
Ledger_Yankees Vazquez to reporters: “Everybody’s entitled to their opinion.” Re: Schilling.
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God, now the media actually is asking Vazquez his reaction to this jerk?
Poor Javy…he’s such a nice man.
GGBG is batting .327, w/ 9 stolen bases. Why not bat him 2nd, especially w/ Tex struggling. That was Macfan’s suggestion this am, and I guess Girardi listened
Looking forward to watching Gardner and Hughes go tonight also!
Did you see Pete Abe’s in his Boston blog commented that Posada throws as bad as Martinez…really??? Jorge threw out 30%’ish last year, right?
Sink or swim, Winn.
School’s out. We have the children posting, “they better play well or else” posts.
Always good for a laugh.
Here’s a tip before whining about the lineup….
Girardi looks at matchups. Winn’s numbers against Millwood scream a start for him tonight.
If a player is hurt and is ready to go, Girardi likes to give that person an extra day just to make sure. He has done it every year he’s been here.
Sometimes, thinking before posting actually works. Some of the children should try it sometime.
The guy won a WS by balancing days off with heavy workloads. He knows about more about his team than you do.
If Posada threw as bad as Martinez, the Yankees would give up a lot more stolen bases. Posada’s % right now isn’t the best, but that is more an indictment on the pitchers. The red sox have bad pitchers AND catchers, and so teams have run 4 x as much on them.
Or what, Johnson? If Phil doesn’t pitch well, what are you going to do?
That’s it, Javy – just ignore what the Schilling says and defuse the situation. If Curt wants to make a fool of himself, then let him.
Did you see Pete Abe’s in his Boston blog commented that Posada throws as bad as Martinez…really??? Jorge threw out 30%’ish last year, right?
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Pete ATE is trying to make excuses for his team. Even this year it doesnt matter. Posada hasnt given up 40 SBs yet and no one is near the same number as Martinez/Varitek. Same lame trying to use a Yankee to justify a Red Sox issue.
I’ll do the blog a service and save the next wave of troll posts by posting what they want to post…….
Must win game tonight. Can’t follow losing a series with a loss to the Orioles. That will give them momentum and they will get swept.
If that happens, I will call for mass firings while I hold my breath and turn blue.
Season is on the line tonight. Hughes better pitch a perfect game and Randy Winn better get 4 hits. Biggest game of the year for the Yankees.
Hughes really stunk up the place his last outing-
Really, this should be his last chance as a starter OR ELSE!!!!!
Okay, this is total sarcasm of course because I just wanted to see what it felt like to post something so asinine. Kind of makes you wonder if people even watch the games
SJ44 – you forgot to mention that Girardi WANTS to lose this game…
Why are you still reading Pete?
The guy provided us something we never had before with this blog, but he really was just a hit driven blowhard.
I can’t say it enough how much better this blog is now with Chad and Sam. All the info and then some without all the childish snark and tired old Bruce Springstein drivel.
Why are you still reading Pete?
The guy provided us something we never had before with this blog, but he really was just a hit driven blowhard.
I can’t say it enough how much better this blog is now with Chad and Sam. All the info and then some without all the childish snark and tired old Bruce Springstein drivel.
SJ44,
Good advice which I did use, but Joe G. got me by swithing Gardner and Swish in the batting order. Oh well, that’s what makes GTLU fun. And since I was hoping to see Gardner get some starts batting 2nd, I have to
yankees will get to millwood by the 3rd and then it’s open season on the o’s bullpen.
Gardy in the 2 hole insead of Swish; OK get on and create BG…
Winn needs to start hitting tonight…
SJ- that was hilarious
BloggingBombers Nick Johnson tested his back with some hitting drills and feels fine. Hopes to be in the lineup tomorrow night.
Tom B,
Very true. Girardi has his ring now he doesn’t care. He is just playing out the string.
Thanks for the reminder! lol
SJ bringing the goods as usual. Keep fighting the good fight my man…
Slightly different report from Carig:
Ledger_Yankees Nick Johnson says he feels some stiffness in his lower back, but it doesn’t affect his swing. May take BP tonight, return Thursday.
i like gardner in the 2 hole while he is hitting well…he has a good eye and despite the bad bunt the other day, seems to be a decent situational hitter…plus if he gets on hes in scoring position standing at first with tex and arod coming up…people just need to complain about something, i could see if gardner was batting .250 with a .300 obp, but the dude is playing fine right now (better than fine actually)
Over under on how many bases Gardy steals in 2010?
My guess is that if healthy he swipes 50+.
That’s exactly the problem with Javy. He doesn’t have a mean streak. Schilling basically questioned his fortitude and he says “everyone is entitled to their opinion”.
Look at A-Rod after the Braden thing… he took a jab at him.
Javy should have fired an insult back at Schilling. He should have called him a blowhard, he should have done something to show that he was angry. Heck, even if he said something humorous like “Glad to see he’s making declarations after 4 starts, what great analysis” or “See where my numbers are at the end of the year, I’m not freaking out over 4 starts” or something that would have been fine.
The fact that he let Schilling question his toughness is disappointing.
Javy’s reactions show maturity. Not everyone needs to be a crap talking blowhard.
At the top of this blog people were talking about Werth for the RS…why not for the Yankees? They could use another big bat and good outfielder. I am not so sure Crawford will even be available to us. The Rays may sign, and then where are we…just a thought
If Phil pitches badly, then it means he can’t pitch in Camden Yards. Since the O’s are an AL East team, it follows that Phil is not an AL pitcher. Trade him to the NL for Ian Kennedy.
Maybe NJ expects to always feel stiffness and that he can play with it. Either way, this appears to be a chronic condition with him…..
SAS-
The Rays can’t afford cc. They would keep him if they could.
They have desmond Jennings waiting in the wings.
I really hope people dont think Javy’s soft cause he didnt react to Schilling. Its called “taking the high road”
I’d wager a dollar that the Rays won’t sign CC. His teammates comments and his comments suggest a departure.
So he won’t even play tomorrow…….
Fran (the original) -
That’s a different contest!!
But you were right – leaving Johnson out and then playing with the 2, 7, 8 and 9 spots was the wild card.
Why should Javy give credence to anything that gasbag has to say? Good for him….
The people crying armageddon are idiots. This team could play with half its starters and still have a more than adequate lineup.
Johosn os hitting .130 anyway. No big loss with him out of the lineup.
Jerkface…you and I are both big gamblers. I like your style
“So he won’t even play tomorrow”
Let’s wait for tomorrow.
Do the Mavericks suck in the playoffs or what !
Nick Johnson looks like a soft, out-of-shape 45 year old.
The guy could hurt himself stretching in the morning.
Again, like Vazquez, just be thankful he’s on a one year deal. The team will win whether he hits well or not, just like the team will do well whether Vazquez pitches well or not.
And you can virtually guarantee that neither player will be on the 2011 roster.
This may rub some of you the wrong way, but sometimes you just have to throw out the trash.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 27th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
So he won?t even play tomorrow??.
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Betsy, I’d say it’s 50-50. Feinsand said Johnson hopes for Wed, Carig said Thursdsay. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Nick Johnson will not play more than 120 games. He’s always hurt and any little thing will just give Joe another reason to give bench guys starts to keep them as sharp as possible. No worries, lots of O on this team…
Nick Johnson has always looked like a soft, out-of-shape 45 year old.
The team looks pretty good early on and am impressed with most. It is very easy to accept the slow starts to Tex and A Rod.
I do have early concern for Javy and Nick.
I hope Javy can work out his ineffectiveness. He really hasn’t shown any enthusiasm since he joined the team. Early on in one interview he even discussed retirement.
Nick is mister injury.
Javy did the right thing ignoring Schilling! If you respond to an idiot, he thinks more highly of himself.
I see that the sewers have overflowed and the sludge is oozing out.
For those that continue to yammer and whine about Vazquez’ start to the season, I’d suggest that you go back through the history of this team and look at some of the more highly profiled players. I’ll give names to look at. Jeter in 2004, Roger Maris in 1961. The other one is a free agent pitcher that the Yankees signed to a few years back to the highest contract in history at that time. Look at his first 4 starts. And, no, I’m not comparing the two pitchers. Slumps and slow starts happen…to every player….even the best. I’ll even get you started on your search. Now the idiots can boo away.
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=1975
You know, I think Javy handled it like a gentleman. A grown up. And actually, I think his answer was quite dismissive of Schilling. “Everyone’s entitled to their opinion” gives no particular credence to this particular person’s opinion. It’s not worth talking or thinking about is what he’s saying. Perfect.
RayVT -
I’m glad someone is on the same page as me regarding Javy’s “response.”
SAS-
I lived in the Tampa area last year & I can assure you that Tampa is not going to sign Crawford.
As for Werth, I like him too. I am sure the Yankees will be in on him, as a backup to Crawford or as a duo to sign him or raise the asking price. I actually prefer Crawford, myself but it sure would be nice to have both of them!
Doreen, I agree. His response probably annoyed Schilling, who’d hoped to fluster and anger Javy.
And I beg to differ that Javy showed no enthusiasm on joining this team.
He said he was happy to be back in New York. He said he never wanted to leave in the first place. He said he was glad to have another opportunity here. Oh, and he was even smiling when he said it.
What more do you want from the guy?
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Besides your beauty, you have a brain!! I like that! Schilling is a bully that wants attention. Let him take his ketchup filled sock & go home.
Javy showed class, because he is classy! With the Yankees it should be WWJD! Or What would Jeter do!!! LOL! I think Javy took Jeter’s path!
GB-
“I see that the sewers have overflowed and the sludge is oozing out.”
Better put in a call to the EPA. Another toxic waste site to add to their list.
Hope all is well with you GB.
I was looking at my “Twitter” thingie and there are dueling tweets about Nick Johnson. First Marc Carig tweets that:
Nick Johnson says he feels some stiffness in his lower back, but it doesn’t affect his swing. May take BP tonight, return Thursday
and one minute later, Mark Feinsand tweets:
Nick Johnson tested his back with some hitting drills and feels fine. Hopes to be in the lineup tomorrow night.
So, which is it!!!????!!!???
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Don’t be using logic on us Doreen!! Afterall, women are suppose to be emotional and men logical!!! (NOT!!) LOL!
So now Javy has a loser gene and doesn’t have a mean streak and is soft…makes you wonder how he ever made it to the big leagues…amazing.
Despite not hitting, Nick Johnson has been on base 37.5% of the time. Which is more than Matsui, Jeter, Upton, Hamilton, Beltre, Granderson, Teixeira, Swisher, Zobrist, Ichiro, Span, Derrek Lee, etc.
He is not trash.
Betsy -
I don’t think Schilling cares how Javy responded. He’s all about himself.
GB-
I forgot to mention that it looks like Phelps is pitching tonite for Trenton.
Do you know who is throwing for SWB ?
What’s Vazquez supposed to do? Responding to Schilling just gives more credence to his comments.
Best to ignore them.
Its amazing to me how many children can watch and follow sports and still have no clue.
Its “Pile on Javy Vazquez” Week and we have all the “experts” talk about his “toughness”.
Please. The guy is starting slow. That’s all it is. Its not a head game.
Go play in your sandboxes and find another villain for 2004 because Vazquez is HARDLY the only villain from that debacle.
Better yet, grow up and let it go.
In case nobody has told you, the Yankees are the defending World Champions.
2004 is a thing of the past.
RayVT -
Except with respect to sports. Men are not logical when it comes to sports!
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
I was looking at my ?Twitter? thingie and there are dueling tweets about Nick Johnson. First Marc Carig tweets that:
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Doreen, I’m counting on Chad to be the tiebreaker.
The Charleston River Dogs played this afternoon. 5-0 Charleston.
Kelvin Perez pitched his best game of the year. Pay close attention to the PO line in the box. 3 pickoffs in one game by the pitcher in 6 innings.
Luke Murton continues to mash the pitching. If the last name sounds familiar, his brother, Matt was the corner outfielder for the Cubs and Rockies for a few years. Luke Murton has legitimate power.
Zoilo Almonte is heating back up and is a very good young center fielder with developing power.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_crdafx_1
Could it be that Javy is like the rest of the country and could care less what Schilling thinks.
If this were a game against the Rays, Nick Johnson would be in the lineup. If Girardi is going to be cautious with a player the time to do it is with a team holding a 3-16 record.
Schilling wants to be Governor, Senator, President & Star. The problem is he is a fake.
blake April 27th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Could it be that Javy is like the rest of the country and could care less what Schilling thinks.
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that’s what I’m thinking. lol
Who said we have an energy crisis in this country ?
Why just today we found one of the richest sources of untapped natural gas known to Man.
Curt Schilling.
He could supply a Nation.
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Men are not logical! If they were they wouldn’t call themselves logical. Men are just as emotional if not more than women. The tough guy act on the outside covers for an insecurity on the inside. Those that cry out for a strong response are usually weak minded emotional people. Thinkers are logical. This is something that men seem to have lost in last 20 years.
Wow, who said Javy had no enthusiasm for coming here? What makes the situation sadder is the guy WANTED to stay here in 2004 and he sounded so happy about returning. Instead of giving him a chance, fans kick him in the pants. I hope one day these morons don’t ask anyone EVER for another chance (should they be imperfect enough to make a mistake) – and if they do, I hope they don’t get it.
Doreen
It’s time to franchise GTLU. Just think how much you could make with all the teams there are.
Blake,
Don’t you get it? As soon as Javy sees the NY skyline, he freezes up and can’t pitch.
His “loser gene” emerges, his “gutlessness” shows, and he turns into a pile of dirt on the mound.
Or at least, that’s what I have been told.
Its all so ignorant and foolish. Like the Arod bashing that went on for years, its sad.
Fans are supposed to root for their team. We have so many people on here rooting for certain guys on the team to fail, its pathetic.
For what reason? To say your were “right”?
Here’s a tip….
Whether you are right or wrong, neither Brian Cashman nor Joe Girardi have any interest in hiring you to help run the Yankees.
Its all so ignorant and childish, it makes little sense to me.
MTU, not sure if Igawa gets the start or if they keep Hirsh on his scheduled day.
MTU (aka GBURL) April 27th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Who said we have an energy crisis in this country ?
Why just today we found one of the richest sources of untapped natural gas known to Man.
Curt Schilling.
He could supply a Nation.
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He already did. RS Nation.
You have to go here to see some fun pictures from yesterday. Got a kick out of seeing the NYY Beat writers. These are from Mark Feinsand and the Daily News, I believe. I got them from a tweet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4.....820227003/
I made a rhyme that time
GB-
Thanks.
Javy Vazquez has the support of his teammates, manager, and coaches. Nothing else counts, especially what a blowhard like Schilling thinks or says.
Javy Vazquez has the support of his teammates, manager, and coaches. Nothing else counts, especially what a blowhard like Schilling thinks or says.
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The only thing that Schilling has the support of these days are a girdle and bra.
I’m Phantastically Phreaking excited that Phil is pitching Phor us tonight.:)
LOL at the beat writers making like they’re holding a press conference…
Jerkface, lol
SJ44
It has bothered me too that some take pleasure when a player fails so they can “think” they’re right.
Maine-
I can tell you this since we’re talkin’ energy.
If BS were energy CS would be a walking powerhouse, n’est pas ?
Ledger_Yankees Jean Afterman, an Obama suporter, says she was only engaging in “witty repartee with the leader of the free world” when she zinged him. #nyy
LOL
Chad,
You should have posted your picture at the podium. Don’t be so shy!
Maine Yankee -
What Erica never let on, and what I found out, is that GTLU ends up running you; you don’t run GTLU.
For instance, today – there was a possibility that I had to make that drive from LI to White Plains to NJ and that I wouldn’t be able to run the game. I was not happy about that! But it worked out that I didn’t have to go, so it was a non-issue.
Blake-
You’ve Phlipped !
I still haven’t phorgotten last week’s phil-nomenal perphormance with Phil’s pholks in attendance. Now it’s time phor Phil to start anew and phlip the bird (or philip the bird) to his doubters.
Rain is in the forecast I bet.
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
You have to go here to see some fun pictures from yesterday. Got a kick out of seeing the NYY Beat writers. These are from Mark Feinsand and the Daily News, I believe. I got them from a tweet.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4…..820227003/
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I was looking at those earlier-they turned out really good!
Chad, you looked very nice
Hopephully Phil won’t remember his previous phailures at this phreaking park….He has to phorget all about them. I will be very happy with 3 runs in 6 innings….
Besty-
Another + 10%’er for phil tonite ?
Betsy,
Nice!
I want to see Gardner break the all time season record for steals.
Erin -
Those beat writers were having way too much fun!
Doreen-
I thought I warned you about that!!! LOL.
Did you think I was kidding when I said I was afraid to make plans on weekends during the playoffs cause I knew it would interfere with GTLU. Or when I started scheduling meetings around GTLU. There was more than one occasion I dodged a phone call from a partner cause I had to start the game. (I didn’t just admit that).
It really is a job on its own!!!!
Okay- leaving now
Doreen
It’s common for someone to not give all the details when they’re trying to “dump” something off on someone.
Betsy-
Now I’m calling you “Besty”. sorry. Got a case of the GB’s.
For those looking forward to the upcoming amateur draft, one player that NYY could hope to get on is a high schooler from Ohio, Stetson Allie. An 18 year old 6-3, 220 pound right handed reliever who’s clock anywhere from 96-101 MPH and has + power and +batting average as a corner infielder. Looks like they are talking about him as a 1st rounder. Maybe he falls if he threatens to take his scholarship offer from UNC. FSN-Ohio did a piece on him last night.
http://www.baseballrumormill.c.....son-allie/
GB-
Anyone name “Stetson” has to be good.
Blake, I think this is phun!
MTU, I still don’t know what you mean by 10%, lol. It’s ok if you call me Besty – I get called that a lot (and worse, too).
Betsy-
a 10%’er is a really good game.
Something like 7 innings w. < 2 runs.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 27th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Blake, I think this is phun!
MTU, I still don?t know what you mean by 10%, lol. It?s ok if you call me Besty ? I get called that a lot (and worse, too).
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You just need to threaten to sic GB7 on them and that should stop it.
Can we call you busty.
MTU (aka GBURL) April 27th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Betsy-
Now I’m calling you “Besty”. sorry. Got a case of the GB’s.
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Keep it going, MTU. You’re next. After my dog “Killer” is finished mangling Ray (sox fan’s) attack poodle “yaz”, he’ll be tracking you down.
Nick Johnson STILL has a stiff back. What a joke.
Why take a risk on his injury history, but not take the risk on Matsui’s? That is essentially what it came down to.
Why take a risk on his injury history, but not take the risk on Matsui?s?
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Because Matsui put a deadline on any offer from the yankees which did not line up with Cashman’s timetable for figuring out the 2010 team.
Additionally, Matsui hasn’t made it through the 2010 season unscathed.
GB-
Thanks for the heads up that way I can get a head start on my way out of the country.
All the Vazquez bashing is flat out stupid. Sure, just hammer the guy you want to succeed.
How does this make any sense at all?
The same people who booed Jeter, Mo, A-Rod, and Teixeira in recent years are the same people who are hammering Vazquez now.
Didn’t care what Schilling said regarding anything when he was a player, so I sure as hell don’t care what he says now.
Not only for the Yanks’ sake, but I hope Vazquez turns his season completely around and becomes a force in the rotation while giving his detractors the proverbial finger.
I think not, Jerkface, lol – the worst is Becky, though; that’s like fingernails on a chalkboard. I’ve gotten called Stephanie (a LOT), Doris, Dusty – you name it, I’ve been called it, lol
Right, so if the Yankees matched the Angels offer he wouldnt have accepted it.
Thats called “negotiating,” jerkface…
Wait, just wondering… how many more runs do Beckett and Lester have to give up before Schilling comments on them?
Vazquez: 1-3, 9.00 ERA, 1.80 WHIP
Beckett: 1-0, 7.22 ERA, 1.74 WHIP
Lester: 0-2, 6.23 ERA, 1.75 WHIP
Additionally, Matsui is already having a better 2010 then NJ and it will end that way too.
I don’t get why teams take risks on players from other teams, but won’t take risks on their own players.
Matsui is our guy, he helpd us win the World Series. He has an injury risk. Nick Johnson has a WORSE injury risk. So who do we sign? Nick Johnson.
It is dumb.
Right, so if the Yankees matched the Angels offer he wouldnt have accepted it.
Thats called ?negotiating,? jerkface?
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Sometimes, when you play hardball, you end up with your second choice. Matsui landed on his second choice team.
Matsui’s agent saw the murky economic waters and got the best deal he could right as free agency started. Meanwhile, Cashman was orchestrating the granderson trade, the vazquez trade, and dealing with Damon + Scott Boras and any of the other things that didn’t pan out but took up his time.
It would enormously embarrassing for Phil Hughes
if he were to get knock around
by the Bodymore Orioles tonight.
THE TRUTH April 27th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Additionally, Matsui is already having a better 2010 then NJ and it will end that way too.
I don?t get why teams take risks on players from other teams, but won?t take risks on their own players.
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Why don’t you ask the Angels. They let one of their own go and signed Matsui.
SJ, Take a look at this week’s ESPN The Magi zine, interesting piece on the Pirates and how they’re stockpiling all the most recent washout 1st rounders from other clubs…….I should be back in time to watch Young Master Hughes….I have to in & get some routine maintenance on my right knee
I see another idiot calling himself “The Tooth” has slid in to impart his little bit of wisdom. Better not spread your wisdom around, Tooth. You don’t have any to spare.
Meanwhile, Vlad is putting this up: .371 .416 .514 .930
Maybe we should have got him? or the angels regret not re-signing their guy?
3 mile island-
You’re suffering from the China Syndrome.
Better move away from the reactor quick.
The reason we didn’t sign Masui is because at the time Cash was spouting that he wanted to “get more flexible” at DH. Then he turned around and signed arguably the most INFLEXIBLE DH on the market- Nick Johnson.
Matsui 2010 salary- $6 million
Nick Johnson 2010 salary $5.5 million.
The numbers right there speak for themselves.
Matsui wanted to take the money that was offered to him early because his agent probably told him the longer he waited in this market, the less he’d get. So he gave the Yanks a timetable and that was it.
The Yanks don’t operate that way. How long did they let Andy Pettitte wait things out before they decided to sign him (before the 2009 season)?
I wanted Matsui back, too. But it was his decision to take the cash early and not give the Yanks much of a chance to come back to him later.
It’s all the past now. Move on already and quit with the stupid whining.
Green Beret—
So you would prefer Nick Johnson for 5.5 million as opposed to Matsui for 6 million?
Its not whining… is THE TRUTH….
Those numbers don’t say anything, other than what they are paid. Very early in the FA market, Matsui’s agent gave the yankees a 24 hour deadline to match the Angels. Had Cashman signed Matsui then, he would have been locked into having Matsui on the roster, which could have impacted his future moves.
he was still in negotiations with Damon to be DH/LF and there were plenty of DH assets on the market.
It just didn’t match up. Get over it.
Dimwit, I’ll just wait until the final numbers are in before judging what deal is better.
Schilling is a professional troll, nothing more.
Props to Javy for not engaging him.
Javy could get booed on Sat and that may be difficult to accept but he’ll get cheered extra loud if he keeps the team in the game with a strong showing. That’s the way it works.
No, no, no!
Erica DID let ME know. She didn’t really make a big deal of it HERE, though!
She was very forthcoming when I volunteered to take it over.
You are not The Truth. Fat Walruses are The Truth. That is fact.
” After my dog “Killer” is finished mangling Ray (sox fan’s) attack poodle “yaz”, he’ll be tracking you down.”
gb7-
i knew Chihuahuas were pretty feisty but i didn’t know they were good at tracking
The other thing is, consider Matsui’s age and the state of his knees. Johnson is a lot better bet to play the majority of the season and be a productive player. There is a high risk that Matsui breaks down and simply isn’t effective any longer.
When will people realize that no one cares that they think Cash made a mistake passing on Matsui?
You do not get any special points if you end up being right. The season has started and all that matters is that the Yankees are 12-6 and look like a great team. Get over it already.
Also I see “The Master” was apparently a legend on the YES Network boards. Says a lot about the quality of that message board
I cannot wait for Phil to blow away the Orioles tonight and the Yankees win so the whiners and complainers stop popping up.
Randy, “Killer” has made Cujo wimper and shake in fear, just by staring at him.
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
No, no, no!
Erica DID let ME know. She didn?t really make a big deal of it HERE, though!
She was very forthcoming when I volunteered to take it over.
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I know I was just trying to get a reaction from someone.
Green Beret,
You can easily deduct the risk/value of a contract BEFORE a season… Thats what GMS do all the time…
You know something ? There’s a lot of morons in here today.
I mean more than usual.
“The Master” is good at one thing….baiting people.
Patrick-
Much more a risk that NJ brakes down. And EVEN IF injury risk is EQUAL, I would rather take the risk on our guy… MATSUI
Why is everything THE TRUTH says false?
# GreenBeret7 April 27th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
“The Master” is good at one thing….baiting people.
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A masterbaiter.
That’s another thing I’m sure he’s well versed in.
The Tooth and The Master. What a tag team they make. They’ve been thrown out of just about every room they’ve gone to.
Do you just selectively pick the posts that you think you can respond to? Jerkface pretty much stated the reason why Matsui is an Angel several times and you seem to fail to understand anything.
And Johnson was not Cashman’s first choice. Damon was Cashman’s first choice. But do we really have to go through this every single day????
I agree with GB7 – why don’t we wait a couple of months and see where this goes. Matsui is a streaky hitter – very good, but streaky. He’s certain to hit a point where he’s not as productive, as he has in the past. And Johnson is sure to hit at some point as well. In fact, now that he’s changed his uni number, I’ll bet he has a good night next time he plays.
People here were ready to let Matsui go about year ago for about a bag of balls.
I love Matsui, and wish it had all worked out, but let’s stop pretending that Matsui was flawless, please?
I know for a lot of you new jack fans (Green Beret, Jerkface) it is a as simple as moving on, stop whining, etc. but for us real yankees fans who were around long before and will be here long after, seeing a real yankee like matsui go under these circumstances is a disgrace
You can easily deduct the risk/value of a contract BEFORE a season? Thats what GMS do all the time?
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Is the 36 year old outfielder with bad knees who can’t play the field a hot buy? No reason to jump into the DH market days into free agency when there was a solid fielding first base DH choice, another 35 year old outfield choice that is liable to be as good a hitter and a slightly better fielder, or any number of trade options.
Signing early only makes sense if its the best move. Its yet to be seen what was th best ‘DH’ pickup.
Not saying that he was flawless, but he was certainly a better option that Nick “glass back” johnson
oh no im not a true yankee fan, i guess i better go hang out with a-rod and all the other non-true yankees.
we’ll be in the vip
The truth hurts Patrick, I guess you just can’t accept it
Truth = Troll. And he baited everyone. 1 point for troll. Drat.
Matsui is not “our guy” anymore. He’s a member of the LA Angels.
What’s the point of whining about this move 5 months after the fact?
You can’t change anything. And all the whining is just flat out annoying to the rest of us who want to discuss the team they Yanks have now.
The Truth -
Sigh.
Matsui’s agents made it so Matsui wasn’t really an option for the Yankees.
Wouldn’t a TRUE yankee wait for the Yankees to make their offer? Instead of jumping ship? Also if this constitutes trolling its the weakest trolling ever. All the truth is doing is making a logical , albeit stupid, argument.
I dunno, I think Trolls generally pick on better topics than the matsui vs johnson DH situation.
The Tooth, your proctologist left a message on here earlier today. He says that he’s found your head.
Giuseppe-
People analyze games all the time after they happen. I fail to see what is wrong with analyzing signings/trades as well
randy
I didn’t intend to get you in a fight this am.
So wait, you guys honestly think that Nick Johnson is a better signing then Matsui? At one point will you admit you were wrong?
The point is, really, that there’s no use crying over spilt milk.
We have the team we have, and that’s the team we need to root for to win, whether we like every little part of its make-up or not.
I only say that since he hasn’t acknowledged your three perfectly reasonable and correct statements on why Matsui is on the Angels right now and not the Yankees.
Dorren-
SIGH. He certainly was an options for the Yankees. He was not, however, a “priority.” And all things considered, how the market played out, what Matsui eventually signed for, etc. it is clear that that was a mistake.
I guess repetitive arguing is a sign of trolling.
Derek Jeter is breaking down, he can’t play the field anymore. I have no idea why Girardi is still batting him leadoff, every ball he hits is a weak grounder to shortstop. He’s DONE, bench him and go with Pena.
^^^^ That’s how you troll
In a perfect world, Damon signs for two years.
In a semi-perfect world, Damon says no, and Matsui is still available and is signed for one year.
In a less perfect world, you get Nick Johnson, an on-base machine, to DH.
That’s life.
I am A FAT WALRUS-
please tell me which arguments you would like me to address, and I will address all of them individually.
As part of Matsui agreeing to play for the angels Mike Soscia agreed to play him in the field, were the Yankees to match and have to also make that same agreement, it would be dumb.
I love and root for this team too, no doubt. But what is wrong with discussing trades/signings etc. and letting go a guy that hit 6 rbis in one World Series game? I fail to see what is wrong that. The game is not for an hour or so anyway, what else would you like to talk about?
Geez, Paddy, I dunno about that. You used good grammar, spelling, and diction, and no exclamation points/ones. I think you’d stick out like a sore thumb amongst trolls. Sorry.
Doreen, Johnson isn’t what you’d ever call streaky, like Matsui, who is impossible to get out when hot, but, by the end of the year, his numbers are always there. Johnson is more of a plugger over the course of the season. As far as injuries, over the last few years, neither have been confused with Cal Ripken. I wasn’t overly found of signing Nick johnson, either, but, really, Matsui didn’t give Cashman a real choice. He signed so soon after the FA period started that Cashman was left between a low cost Johnson or a guy that effectively priced himself out of the market in Damon.
Chuck 58,
The whole point of trolling is to get a rise out of the regulars with a stupid enough argument that they will get all riled up but not so stupid that they think it’s fake. It’s a fine line to walk
Jerkface-
That was a factor that contributed to signing there, that was not determinative. In other words if another team offered move cash, or if the Yankees matched it the deal, playing the field would not exactly have pushed his hand one way or the other.
You’re right though, I could have gone with no upper case, no punctuation and a few spelling errors. Drat!
Truth -
It as fairly clear the Yankees had a priority list, yes. And Damon was tops on that list because he can still play the field (albeit not as well as had in the past). In an ideal situation, they can get both back, but I don’t think they ever believed that would happen because of the money both would want. So you choose. And they chose to pursue Damon because he is more versatile than Matsui.
Matsui cannot play the field.
Moreover, Matsui knew the Yankees would not want him to play the field, and he still felt (feels) he is capable of doing so. The Angels said that he may have an opportunity to play the field with them, and were very aggressive in going after him.
Sometimes things go another direction.
What good does it do to pine away after someone who is gone? There were reasons the Yankees did what they did.
And as good as Matsui is, he was a risk. Johnson was not chosen instead of Matsui, though. He was signed because Damon strung them along.
Patrick, true, and you hit THAT nail on the head.
I was just funnin’ ya about being too educated
to be a troll.
Why is anyone responding to this guy?
Patrick April 27th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
You?re right though, I could have gone with no upper case, no punctuation and a few spelling errors. Drat!
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Then we’d just think you was GB7.
Giuseppe-
People analyze games all the time after they happen. I fail to see what is wrong with analyzing signings/trades as well
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Wait until the end of the season to analyze it. Analyzing it in April doesn’t make any sense at all.
Good question, Betsy….
meantime….
truth,
i think its pretty obvious that nick johnson is better then matsui.. dudes a stud and his fielding is off the charts. matsui busts a knee just playing 1 game of ddr he might as well be riding around in a wheelchair. also johnson was a yankee way before matsui so he’s definitely one of the boyz, matsui never melded with the clubhouse because he’s japanese. that world series game was just a fluke, can’t you remember the dozens of balls he rolled over on for dp’s during the season? not an impact hitter and nobody in the league feared facing him.
“I didn’t intend to get you in a fight this am.”
Maine Yankee-
sorry, i got busy and forgot to thank you
My take on Javy is he is dropping his arm causing his fastball to be up. One always hears the expression “throwing downhill”. He’s not, due to mechanics or a shoulder issue. Hopefully, mechanics only. His fastball looked completey different from last year.
Swish loves Camden Yards.
Tex’s 2009 swoon began in Baltimore. In 2010, it will end there.
Hi Chuck
♥
MaineYankee April 27th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Patrick April 27th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
You?re right though, I could have gone with no upper case, no punctuation and a few spelling errors. Drat!
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Then we’d just think you was GB7.
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In case you missed my warning to MTU, “Killer’s” up in your area. He enjoys a little travelling. If you hear a howling in your neck of the woods, be careful and don’t open the door.
Pretty remarkable stuff that people on the board are self-assuredly declaring that Vazquez and Johnson are “trash” after 20 games into the season.
Remarkable foresight there.
They must have gotten the early DNA results back from the loser gene testing just implemented across MLB.
Real scientists there, no doubt.
GB7 -
Yes.
And this whole line of conversation is senseless because we have Nick Johnson. We do not have Hideki Matsui and we do not have Johnny Damon and all the permutations of why have been hashed, rehashed and smashed!
Also, has anyone considered that Cashman knew they had a replacement for Matsui in the lineup in either Cano or Granderson, but no real replacement for Damon? He took a calculated risk. And until the end of the season we will not know how it turns out.
I am not sure what is the big deal to just admit that Cashman made a mistake. If this was not a mistake, I would like to know a mistake that you guys think he made, or do you just defend him blindly regardless?
Further, what is so wrong about discussing the fact that Matsui should have been bought back? The guy was a major part of the time for half a decade, and was pivotal player in beating the Sawx in ’03 and winning the series in ’09. Not to mention, he was the prime example of what a Yankee is through his personality and demeanor. To tell somebody to “just get over” or “stop whining” about letting a player go like that is beyond lame.
“You know something ? There’s a lot of morons in here today.
I mean more than usual.”
I agree. It is like some other board full of idiots decided too all post on here today.
Wow – that is an impressive sequence, Betsy
Nice….
CB,
A-rod had the loser gene but he underwent ILLEGAL stem cell treatment to get rid of it. Once again, A-rod acting like the classless loser that he is.
CB-
Vazquez is not trash, and I am thoroughly confident he will bounce back.
Comparing that to the NJ/Matsui fiasco is apples and oranges.
FakeJSterling tweet:
@PeteAbe A 15 minute call to Geico could save you 15 minutes about your petty arguing about Alex Rodriguez
THE TRUTH,
Its because you’ve come to the website under about five other usernames (Melkman in Hotlanta, Edwar in Oakland, all of them are pretty stupid to tell you THE TRUTH) doing one sole thing- complaining about Cashman’s offseason moves. Its to the point now where its incessant and clearly being done to provoke reactions from other users.
I vote that we just completely ignore him.
Comparing that to the NJ/Matsui fiasco is apples and oranges.
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Now you are calling two beloved Yankee greats fruits? I will not stand for your blatant gay bashing any longer. Chad, ban this guy!
Mac, I wonder about Javy, in that last year he had the WBC beginning a bit earlier. I wonder if he is merely building up arm strength and not quite where he should be? Javy himself says it’s not mechanics….
Here’s a quick question Truth… When did Matsui/Johnson sign with their new respective teams?
It wasn’t like the Yankees were choosing or the other. Cashman had bigger things to deal with (Granderson, Javy, Damon to an extent) and by the time it came to getting to the Matsui issue, he was an Angel.
Giuseppe-
People analyze contracts before the season all the time, it is nothing new. Its like analyzing stocks 6 months before- people do it all the time. Post Hac analysis is kind of pointless, because at that point there is no debate left.
On a grander scale,
If you could have Pujols for say $10 million, or Kevin Millar for $10 million, would have to wait until after the season to analyze it? Of course not. That example is clearly an exaggeration, but you get what I am saying
Declaring any off-season transaction in April was a mistake is dumb.
You won’t know the answer until the end of the season.
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 27th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
GB7 -
Yes.
And this whole line of conversation is senseless because we have Nick Johnson. We do not have Hideki Matsui and we do not have Johnny Damon and all the permutations of why have been hashed, rehashed and smashed!
Also, has anyone considered that Cashman knew they had a replacement for Matsui in the lineup in either Cano or Granderson, but no real replacement for Damon? He took a calculated risk. And until the end of the season we will not know how it turns out.
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As much as I’ve been wrong about Gardner so far, other than power/extra base power, he’s stayed pretty close to what Damon has produced this year. Add in what NYs have gotten from Thames and they’re even and defense has been better. how it ends is anybody’s guess.
Granderson has been more than equalt to what Cabrera is doing and in all likelyhood, will do by the end of the year.
Pretty fair tradeoffs, so far.
Chuck, last night I was on a roll – if Phil has a good game, maybe I’ll break out the other emoticons, lol.
The Yankees pass the loser genes around like they do the wrestling belt. Whoever sucks the most that night will be the proud holder of the loser gene
CB-
I have posted on this website for YEARS, but only under the name TRUTH, certainly not those names.
GB7
Killer will need to look out for the coyotes.
The Truth,
The NJ/Matsui debate is dead now. The Yankees signed NJ months ago and every point was already made. And for good measure these points have each been repeated 1,000x over.
The reason people are getting annoyed at your posts is because you are operating on a ridiculous premise. You are coming in here less than 20 games into the season and saying it was a bad move. That is just flat out stupid and I can assure you that we all have heard everything you have to say before.
The discussion is pointless until the end of the season. And even then no one will probably care since NJ is very likely here for only 1 year. The Truth,
The NJ/Matsui debate is dead now. The Yankees signed NJ months ago and every point was already made. And for good measure these points have each been repeated 1,000x over.
The reason people are getting annoyed at your posts is because you are operating on a ridiculous premise. You are coming in here less than 20 games into the season and saying it was a bad move. That is just flat out stupid and I can assure you that we all have heard everything you have to say before.
The discussion is pointless until the end of the season. And even then no one will probably care since NJ is very likely here for only 1 year. It is time to move on. Hence all the comments to get over it already.
Granderson is just in a slump; he’s going to be great – yet I see people on other boards wishing we could do the trade over again. I wonder sometimes if fans really do expect perfection – actually, I don’t wonder this, I know it.
The Truth,
Did it ever occur to you that maybe Matsui wanted to go somewhere else? Or perhaps he wanted to make sure he got paid and didn’t want to wait it out?
How is this all on Cashman? Doesn’t Matsui share some responsibility here?
The Yanks let Pettitte twist into the wind for awhile before they signed him in 2009. They let John Wetteland walk after he won the WS MVP Award in 1996.
You can’t analyze any of these moves until the end of the season. Matsui’s knee could blow up on him tomorrow and be out the rest of the season. That is not at all stretch given his age and long history of knee problems.
You sound like a fool analyzing such a move when they’re less than 20 games into the season. There’s 140+ games to go.
20 games into the season the yankees are only playing .667 ball.
What an unmitigated disaster.
I mean year after year over the past 5 years when this team DID NOT have Johnson or Vazquez they always got off to torrid starts.
Now with those two the team is only on a pace to win 98 games.
DISASTER!!
Coming into this season the team was projected to win 99 games.
Not they are on base to win only 98.
What utter despair have Vazquez and Johnson brought this once proud fashion to…
I AM A WALRUS…
NJ signed with the Yankees a couple of weeks after NJ. Cashman clearly misplayed his hand and wound up signing what he said he didn’t want, an inferior dh (NJ), for essentially the same money as the world series MVP. He misplayed the market and he didn’t play his cards right. So again, not signing Matsui was a mistake.
serious formatting fail there. Don’t know what happened. Sorry.
Betsy-
“The Yankees pass the loser genes around like they do the wrestling belt. Whoever sucks the most that night will be the proud holder of the loser gene”
So are you telling me that whoever sucks the most has to hold onto a pair of “Wrangler’s” ?
randy
I knew you was up to it.
There is no guarantee Matsui would have signed with the Yankees for 6.5 million.
Very few players are willing to come back at pay cuts. Pettitte is the exception, not the rule.
CB,
You’re being too obvious in your sarcasm. Make it more believable so you can get a rise out of the crazies around here
“Killer” spits in the faces coyotes and shoots them the paw, Maine.
NJ signed with the Yankees a couple of weeks after NJ. Cashman clearly misplayed his hand and wound up signing what he said he didn’t want, an inferior dh (NJ), for essentially the same money as the world series MVP. He misplayed the market and he didn’t play his cards right. So again, not signing Matsui was a mistake.
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ZOMG a series MVP!? We need to go get David Eckstein asap
And at seasons end, even if you’re right about an off-season move, then what?
Maybe there should an award given.
Best Internet Commenter That Bored The Crap Out Of Everyone.
faces ***of***coyotes
So you need to wait until the end of a season before analyzing a contract?
If I sign Pujols for 10 $ million and Kevin Millar for 10$ million you need to wait until the end of the season?
THAT is a dumb premise to say you have to wait until the end of a season. Clearly that is an exaggeration, but to say you have to wait until the end of the season is just wrong
How big a disaster have Johnson and Vazquez been?
If the yankees had signed Matsui, then the escalating tension between the respective nationalists in Beijing and those in Tokyo would have long been solved.
If they hadn’t traded for Vaquez the 10% unemployment would have been a thing of the past.
It can’t get any worse.
“I have posted on this website for YEARS, but only under the name TRUTH, certainly not those names.”
it shouldn’t be hard for you to come up with a link to one of those posts from two years ago then.
maybe you’re forecasting was really good.
we’ll be waiting.
No one in baseball would have signed Matsui if they thought he could not make it through 20 games.
At game 100, let me know how many cortisone shots he has had and if he is still walking.
Just for the record, I am not knocking the Vazquez trade. Only the Nick Johnson deal.
I thought this would be interesting, talking about the streakyness of Matsui, and this is not exact science.
Nick Johnson has had atleast 25 streaks of 4+ games where he got on base 2 times in each game. Matsui has also had 25 streaks of 4+ games of the same. But Matsui’s ‘best’ is 8, and Nick Johnsons best is 14 games!
This doesn’t account for when Matsui has a .900 OPS month, or whatever, but I think NJ is capable of being a firestarter like Matsui.
Maine-
I didn’t want to do this but GB has forced my hand.
I’m deathly afraid of Killer.
It will be necessary to maintain the balance of terror so ……
I’m searching for Nurse Wratchet’s #.
It’s kind of like MADD.
It’s his fault.
However, I am will to be reasonable.
If GB withdraws his threat to sick Killer on me I will destroy Wratchet’s phone #, and agree never to stoop so low again.
LGY-
so game 100 we can analyze this deal? Mark it down
The Pujols Millar comparison was dumb the first time you said it. No point in repeating it again.
If the yankees didn’t sign vazquez and johnson Clay Buchholz never steals those lap tops.
haha! Better get ‘em ready to roll, Betsy….
I’m feeling it! Young Master Philip will master the O’s tonight
Patrick,
I understand you just became a baseball fan last week, but being a World Series MVP for the Yankees certainly stands for something. If you want to diminish it, that is your problem.
How big a disaster have Johnson and Vazquez been?
If the yankees had signed Matsui, then the escalating tension between the respective nationalists in Beijing and those in Tokyo would have long been solved.
If they hadn’t traded for Vaquez the 10% unemployment would have been a thing of the past.
It can’t get any worse.
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Ugh I can’t believe the Yankees got another impostor, Javier Vazcan’t. Because he can’t win ballgames. Or cure cancer! What a gutless scrub
Anybody trying to prove a point about an off-season move after 20 games is a baseball idiot.
You are proving it with every one of your posts this afternoon.
I said wait until the end of the season, because NJ could get hurt at game 101. Even then, I won’t care. I am done with this conversation. After a bad day you got a rise out of me. Congrats.
MTU, Jason Hirsh is getting the Scranton start tonight.
I understand you just became a baseball fan last week, but being a World Series MVP for the Yankees certainly stands for something. If you want to diminish it, that is your problem.
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Yeah you’re totally right. Lets sign all the world series MVP’s. Replace that scrub Jeter with the studly scrapster known only as David Eckstein.
“This doesn’t account for when Matsui has a .900 OPS month, or whatever, but I think NJ is capable of being a firestarter like Matsui.”
And when exactly are we going to see this firestarter behavior from Nick Johnson?
Chuck, I hope so, lol. I just don’t want him to get clobbered – how’s that for positive thinking?
Laura, it’s only 3 weeks into the season…………and Matsui had streaks were he looked downright awful.
At this point, I’m more concerned about his back.
That’s a good start, Betsy. Now, just throw in some
and kick it up a notch!
Bam! hahaha
The Truth -
I don’t know that I think Cashman made a mistake. He made a calculated risk, and we won’t know how that turns out until the end of the season.
But the fact is Matsui was only available to the Yankees if the Yankees moved on him first. And he was not their priority. I do not disagree with that, given the state of Matsui’s knees.
He drove in 6 runs in one game and was the MVP of the 2009 WS, but he is only one person; his greatness did not net a WS victory in any other season he was here.
I am glad if he had to leave, it was on such a high note.
Patrick,
You know Jeter was a world series mvp in 2000 right? of course not, you just started watching baseball yesterday.
Being a World Series MVP means NOTHING when it comes to the next season.
It may mean something to you. It doesn’t mean anything to those who evaluate players.
They didn’t feel he could hold up over the course of another season.
Guess what? The jury is out whether he can or not.
Its only been 20 games. Get back to me in September.
Laura,
Do you have some kind of alarm clock that goes off every time Nick Johnson’s name is mentioned on here so you can come complain about him?
If I say his name 3 times will you magically appear?
GB-
Much rather it be Hirsch than Iggy. thanks.
The yankees – who have only played 6 games in that joke of a ball park in the Bronx – without Matsui are only first in the AL in OPS, first in slugging % and second in on base percentage.
How could this team not be clearly in command of every major offensive category?
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You know Jeter was a world series mvp in 2000 right? of course not, you just started watching baseball yesterday.
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Stop living in the past brother! Eckstein won in 2006! Jeter won his 10 years ago, he’s an old man and good for nothing.
THAT is a dumb premise to say you have to wait until the end of a season. Clearly that is an exaggeration, but to say you have to wait until the end of the season is just wrong
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It’s not a dumb premise because you have to factor in the injury histories of both players and the fact that Matsui doesn’t have that short porch anymore for 81 games and Johnson does.
Lots of factors that you can’t analyze less than 20 games into the season.
Is Matsui a better player than Johnson if all else were equal?
Yeah, I’d say so. But that doesn’t mean squat if Matsui gets hurt tomorrow and Johnson gets over his back stiffness and turns his season around.
Sabathia wasn’t exactly getting rave reviews this time last season. Lots of idiots on this board were claiming he wasn’t an ace, he couldn’t handle NY, and he’s an October choker.
Sabathia sure made those people look stupid by year’s end.
That’s why you can’t analyze moves this early in the season. Too many variables can change between now and the end of the season.
Matsui is on fire, and Nicky ain’t hitting [never mind he's still getting on base].
What will everyone say when Gojiru looks lost at the plate [or worse, has a knee
and lands on the DL] and Johnson begins to poke the ball?
2nd in OBP? That’s disgraceful; obviously they ALL have loser genes.
any time, MTU. By the way, “Killer” is only showing up to show you that he can. just don’t cross him.
Curtis Granderson = Troll
“THE TRUTH April 27th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
I am not sure what is the big deal to just admit that Cashman made a mistake. If this was not a mistake, I would like to know a mistake that you guys think he made, or do you just defend him blindly regardless?
Further, what is so wrong about discussing the fact that Matsui should have been bought back? The guy was a major part of the time for half a decade, and was pivotal player in beating the Sawx in ?03 and winning the series in ?09. Not to mention, he was the prime example of what a Yankee is through his personality and demeanor. To tell somebody to ?just get over? or ?stop whining? about letting a player go like that is beyond lame.”
Because it has been discussed on this board at length already. If you want everyone’s opinion go back and read teh history. Rehashing the same stuff get boring.
Nick Johnson = Troll
the
GB, is he ? ? hahahahaha!
Javier Vazquez = Troll
How could this team not be clearly in command of every major offensive category?
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Ugh only second in OBP? They were first last year. Just goes to show you how little Nick Johnson is helping. He’s a supposed on-base wiz kid and when he joins the team their OBP goes down! Awful, just awful.
Joba Chamberlain = Troll
Patrick,
Maybe if you are a good boy your daddy will take you to a Yankee game one day.
Okay, I swung and missed -
was asking GB if Killer was “spayed”
and used the spade symbol incorrectly.
:gloom:
“If I say his name 3 times will you magically appear?”
No, but if you click your heels together 3 times and say “I wish Matsui was here”, I will.
I just happened to get home from work right when the lineup was posted. It’s pure coincidence. But if you want to know when I’m going to stop complaining about Nick Johnson, join the club. I don’t know when I’m going to warm up to him. I don’t like the signing and I can’t imagine when I will. Of course, I said the same thing about Alex years ago and now, he’s one of my favorites. Will lightning strike twice? We’ll see.
Mark Teixeria = Troll
LGY -
That was the first time I’ve seen a double post within a single post!
IDCWYT,
Maybe it has been discussed already, but clearly it is still a hot button issue. I made one post and look how many people responded. To people that don’t want to discuss, feel free to not respond.
Austin Jackson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Granderson Troll
Without Matsui the yankees are now, as a team, consistently using their chopsticks incorrectly when eating udon.
Don’t even get me started on what they are doing to soba….
Even worse – they’ve started eating individual pieces of sushi in at least two bites rather than one as is the correct practice.
Di-SAS-ter
GB7
Does Killer have a good coat.
That goes over well here.
I’m watching All in the Famiy and Rue McClanahan (Blanche from GG) is in this episode. Believe it or not, she actually looks older than she was in GG. And she’s a litte chunky.
I sometimes eat sushi in 2 bits when it is a big piece
CB has conceded that he is wrong, and has now started to write nonsense points which simply reveal that he is not a true fan.
Actually, I’d like to see Matsui continue to mash the ball as long as the angels lose and the mashing isn’t against the Yankees. I’ll be equally happy if Johnson does the same, as well as Jackson, Damon and Cabrera. What they do has no baring on what the Yankees do if they aren’t playing them. same with the traded pitchers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=5139508
Glanville is a very good writer…
Doreen,
lol. Unfortunately the Truth’s post did not warrant one response, let alone 2.
Imagine. With Damon and Matsui, we could be 18-0 this season.
BryanHoch Vazquez on Schilling’s comments: “Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I know I’ve struggled … but I’ve got to get through it.”
Ledger_Yankees Correction: Johnson think he can be back tomorrow (Wednesday) not Thursday… shoot guys, very sorry about that.
LGY-
That’s only because you’ve been hanging around Nick Johson too long…
No sushi bar for you!!!
Doreen, is it the episode where Edith inadvertently invites a couple of swingers over? LOL If so, that’s an HILARIOUS episode…
And without JD the Yanks no longer have eye candy in the form of Michelle Damon. Now, instead of drooling over her the entire clubhouse is going gaga for Minka. Unfortunately, Jeter isn’t as forgiving as Johnny and therefore he’s at odds with the entire team. What happens when the team turns on the Captain? That’s right, mutiny. This is a sinking ship folks.
“I’m watching All in the Famiy and Rue McClanahan (Blanche from GG) is in this episode. Believe it or not, she actually looks older than she was in GG. And she’s a litte chunky.”
She had a stroke several weeks ago. I haven’t heard how she’s doing, but I hope she recovers. She and Betty are the only “Girls” left.
MaineYankee April 27th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
GB7
Does Killer have a good coat.
That goes over well here
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He’s packing his polar bear overcoat. Got it himself while frolicking around in the Arctic a couple of years ago, when he was a puppy.
Erin, thanks for posting!
LGY-
To bad you have done NOTIHNG to refute my arguments, and the only counter argument you made had a ridiculously false premise.
all the racist sushi comments are funny, and just prove that some of you are new jacks/ not real fans at all.
Game 100 has been offered for when we can properly “debate” this topic, so rest assured I will raise it again then.
“Imagine. With Damon and Matsui, we could be 18-0 this season.”
No- they would be at least 24-0 even though they’ve only played 18 real games.
They would have swept the two theoretical three game series they’ve played in the land of make believe this year.
All scores in those games are square roots of negative integers and final scores are all imaginary numbers.
New Post-Pregame notes: Johnson improving, Park not
Game 100 has been offered for when we can properly “debate” this topic, so rest assured I will raise it again then.
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Does that mean you’ll leave until Game 100? God I hope so. And I’ll be sure to avoid the blog when game 100 rolls around.
“No sushi bar for you!!!”
That means I can never dine on the Award Winning Godzilla Roll
CB -
I don’t know how people eat sushi in one bite!
(I just can’t do it!!!)
Looks like “The Tooth” learned a new phrase out in the playground sandbox today. That’s the third time he’s referred the posters as “new jacks”.
“Gammons also sounded pretty down on the Sox. Said it is a bad sign that a guy like Scott Atchiston and Delcarmen are pitching so many innings for them early and if the rotation doesn?t turn around, they can?t compete with TB and NY.”
If there’s anything we should know cold it’s the ramifications of burning out your bullpen. I don’t think the Sux are going to recover from the rotation breakdown. I don’t see any possible way that they will get by both the Rays and the Yankees. That would put them out of contention for anything but going home at the end of the season.
Betsy -
YES!!! It is that episode.
Actually it’s the hairstyle that makes her look older. She’s still adorable.
I hope she’s doing better after her stroke, which Laura reminded me of.
I hope Matsui has a monster year as he is on my fantasy team, but he had his knee drained twice last year just DHing! right?
John Wetteland was the WS MVP in 96′ .
Then? See ya!
I remember his successor struggled a bit early in 97.
Worked out pretty good though.
Patrick,
Nope, I will still be posting occasionally like I always do.
Game 100 is just when I will be sure to raise this issue again.
CB,
I will debate baseball until I am blue in the face. I am passionate about the Yankees and the players I follow. If you don’t feel the same way, that’s fine, but there is nothing wrong with people that do.
I am just as much into debating baseball on the field as I am into debating off the field issues as contracts, team building, etc. Part of that is analyzing contracts based on past performance.
This may be hard for some one of your intellect or lack of passion to accept, but it is really not out of the ordinary.