A meal between friends
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Apr 28, 2010 
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While the Yankees were in California, Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated got Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera and Jorge Posada together for lunch. Turns out, it was the first time those four had eaten together when they weren’t part of a larger group.
The result was this week’s Sports Illustrated cover story, a recorded conversation between the four longtime teammates.
The link above is for an online bonus section not in the magazine, but SI did pass along some excerpts from the magazine piece, including this one.
Jeter: What it comes down to is that I never have to worry about these guys being ready to play.
Pettitte: It’s all about trust.
Jeter: I mean, it never crosses my mind. I don’t have to worry about them. I know they know how to win. I know that’s the only thing they care about. They don’t care about their personal stats.
Rivera: No egos. No jealousy.
Dissing A-Rod I see.
I can’t wait to pick up a copy!
I ♥ the cover
Jetes is great but he will be 36 this summer, I just hope the extension is not too long to hurt the franchise like AROD’s deal will probably do on the back end
Randy, that makes an awful lot of sense. I know Eiland has said in the past that it was like pulling teeth to get Phil to throw the change, but that was when he didn’t have a decent change to work with. I don’t believe Phil is stubborn or that he was blowing smoke in ST when he said he thought the change was important to him and I hope he does work it in. Again, he did throw it against the Angels; last night was just not a good night for him in terms of command. If it’s as much of a feel pitch as people say, the odds of him breaking off a good one were probably slim.
I like your golf analogy; short term loss for long term gain, huh?
I’m trying not to obsess about the change and instead concentrate on all the progress Phil has shown this year.
I’m sorry but they all look a bit too “happy” on that cover
LGY, I understand what you are saying……I think brutal was too strong, but I do understand the point Chad was trying to make.
That is a fantastic cover; unfortunately, I doubt the stores in my area will have it out yet. I’m tempted to read the article on-line, but I’m not sure I want to do that.
These guys all love each other a great deal and I think that shows; they are truly remarkable.
Wow, are they having a tickle fight?
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I haven’t seen anyone make the counter-argument that teams like the Orioles are incapable of beating teams like the Yankees. Has it happened? There are commenters on here who seem personally offended that the Yankees don’t sweep every series with clearly inferior teams; oh well. But two nights ago people were chastised for suggesting that the Blue Jays weren’t as good as their (then) winning record. Something about the ‘hear and now’ and not ‘living in the future’. Weren’t they just looking beyond the box scores too?
Thats the BEST PICTURE Ive ever seen.
The way Jeetie is half grinning is just AWESOME!!!
I think he used “brutal” to describe the physical and emotional toll that the effort took on Hughes.
How much more beautiful are the 4 of them for just having worn Pinstripes! I mean, seriously?!
Trisha,
I commend you for trying to get involved and help with animal law. But, I do hope for the sake of your mental health that you have the same thick skin in the real world that you demonstrate here. I have spoken with people involved in animal law and even the “positive results” are often extremely disheartening. The legislature across the country is just miles behind any rudimentary understanding of justice that many people hold in regards to animals. Here in NY, Christine Quinn has struck down every proposed pro-animal legislation since taking over as Speaker of the NY City Council.
You may end up being much happier offering your services to a group/organization that aims to change/improve legislation for animal welfare.
I want to get the magazine just for the cover. I bought last year’s mag with Mariano on the cover. It’s a perfect, perfect cover picture.
“How much more beautiful are the 4 of them for just having worn Pinstripes! I mean, seriously?!”
Not only that, it’s really cool that they wore their uniforms to go out to lunch in SoCal! Bet that didn’t get any looks.
Brutal as a descriptor doesn’t imply any lack of skill or talent, but more the circumstances in which the game was played. It was a very apt word because Hughes was battling every hitter, they fouled off a ton of pitches and he never got a groove.
If CC guts out a 6 inning win , it could be described as brutal.
If CC loses a game and is out by the 3rd it could be described as brutal.
A pitcher cruising through 7 who gives up 1 or 2 runs then loses would probably not be described as brutal.
Loved it when Jorge pointed out that Rivera is older. Wanted to make sure the record straight on that.
And taking a picture at the end of each season is the sweetest thing.
And I like that they addressed [West's] comments.
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Thanks for the links earlier. The Jorge article was hilarious.
Flipping through the channels last night and had a shocker. Hair and Kristen Chenowith (sp?) were belting it out under the sheets. Not a good scene.
I do like the storyline with the femme kid/jock though. Greg’s b-i-l from “Yes, Dear” was a pleasant surprise. Femme’s getting on my nerves with his neediness. And his loathing of sports.
And you just knew what song mercedes was going to sing. It was great, though. It’s still a beautiful song.
I didn’t realize we lost 3 straight. Remember how people moaned and groaned when they found out we had signed Chan Ho Park? They’re missing his presence imo.
RAB has an article on a semi-quasi-catchers controversy. Nothing earth-shattering that we haven’t noticed over the past year.
CC is the stopper tonight.
Jerkface, I would consider that a brutal loss for that pitcher, lol – but I know what you mean.
I understand and agree to some extent; I also think he probably got a good night’s sleep last night as he undoubtedly was physically and mentally exhausted.
Good points about ‘Brutalgate’ in the last thread and this one.
Also, it’s all relative. Just like called a team with a bad record “bad” is relative. The worst team in baseball is staffed with some of the finest baseball players on the planet. Most people understand that.
Betsy,
The meaning of brutal that I think most applies to baseball is: taxing, demanding, or exhausting: They’re having a brutal time making ends meet.
The others imply a kind of animalistic cruelty that would be more at home on a football field than Soccer. (You can’t really hit a brutal homerun, though I suppose you can brutalize a pitch)
Cruising and then losing your lead would be more heart breaking, or something implying a loss of morale. I don’t see the brutal descriptor fitting there. You can use whatever word you like, but I just wanted to explain the thought process here.
I meant, football field than baseball. had football on the brain. (both kinds)
Teixeira laid a brutal hit on the catcher. Hughes had a brutal outing. Different connotations.
The Newsstand downstairs from my office doesn’t carry SI. Now I have to remember to buy it on my way home.
m -
Kurt’s (the femme character) neediness got to me and my husband, too. Both of us remarked that he got no sympathy at all from us last night, and it was starting to annoy us! Maybe that’s what they’re aiming for??? Chenoweth, by the way, with the “e.”
Poor Bernie. If he was a few years younger, it would’ve been the Core Five everyone is talking about.
Brutal means really bad. And that would describe Robertson’s outing last night.
I could see what Chad might have meant, but there are better ways to describe it because as someone pointed out other pitchers (cough-Javy) have been brutal.
GTLU
Jeter ss
Johnson DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Need a Win tonight from the big Lefty.
Bernie! I love that guy! So cute, so handsome, great smile! Great facial structure! Happy go lucky guy!
Was there a Yankee I didnt find to be beautiful?? Ahhh, Randy Johnson!
Would I be a bad mom/wife if I went to Lakewood to see the Blue Claws play the Yankees’ Charleston team all by myself? It’s a Wednesday game at 11:05. I could get there watch the game and get back before my daughter gets home from school.
I’ve never gone to a game by myself.
Oh My Gosh!
Guess The Line Up is now Open.
Lost track of the time – folding clothes!
m,
Brutal means more than that (and thats a slang meaning anyways, and there are various other slang meanings that are not ‘very bad’).
It was a proper usage.
Doreen, go for it! I go out for meals by myself all the time and I go on vacation by myself all the time. Treat yourself, girl – it’s a pleasure to have quality time alone.
Jerkface, as an English major, I have to say that this discussion really appeals to me, lol.
Doreen
NO! You’re more than entitled to go see a game!
On last nights radio broadcast, Susan told a nice story about Mo.
The team was at Walter Reade and one particular wounded soldier being a Sox fan had his dad send him his old Sox hat in anticipation. The kid wanted to wear it I guess. Susan said he stood out as the model of the hat was quite old and she said she hadn’t seen it in many years. Anyway she talked to the kid and introduced him to Mariano.
So the kid and Mariano begin a discussion and I guess it evolved into something a bit more than the standard chat. Knowing Mariano it may have delved into faith but anyway at some point the kid remembers that he’s wearing a Sox hat and probably gets embarrassed and decides that he should probably take the hat off and out of view.
And of course Mo being Mo, he notices this and tells the kid that he shouldn’t put the hat away. Tells him that if the Sox are his favorite team then he should be proud of that and he shouldn’t feel the need to hide the hat.
I’m telling you that Mariano is more than just a special athlete.
And that wounded kid? He may be a Sox fan but now he’s definitely a Mariano fan as well. How could you not be?
Good grief.
I seem to recall the Yanks losing 2 of 3 last year at the Stadium to the Nationals.
Somehow, someway, the Yanks were able to overcome it and win the WS.
The Yanks will be fine. The O’s and Dave Trembley, however, will not be.
I just checked my calendar and I have nothing on it. I think I’m going to go!
Bronx Jeers
I read that Cisco was signing autographs for the Vets that were at last nights game. He had an idea, he exchanged his hat for one of the Vets hats, and had all the Vets sign it.
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Thanks Doreen! And I think you should go to that game, BTW
I ♥ Glee
I ♥ Parenthood
Parenthood has already been picked up for a second season btw. I saw that discussion on the previous thread
Rivera Knows.
m,
Personally I do not use brutal to mean really bad and I do not hear it used that way.
For example, if I go to a restaurant the service could be brutal or I could say it was brutal having to wait so long for a table.
But, I would never say the food was brutal if it tasted really bad.
Bronx Jeers, that’s a great story about Mo!!
Awww, they SI Jinx, that’s why they lost last nigh. Okay, ‘splans it all.
Doreen
Your husband and daughters don’t mind when you have all the fun and go to the grocery store, bank or dry cleaner by yourself, so why not a baseball game!
And I need to buy this SI as soon as possible-
On the radio last night, Sterling said that the Core 4 takes a Group photo on the field at the end of every season. The reason why is because Andy says he is retiring every season and wants one to save. LOL
jennifer April 28th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Bronx Jeers
I read that Cisco was signing autographs for the Vets that were at last nights game. He had an idea, he exchanged his hat for one of the Vets hats, and had all the Vets sign it.
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I ♥ Cervelli
Bronx Jeers, that’s a fantastic story. I think it’s impossible for any fan of any team not to respect Mariano……..
Doreen
I would think you’ve earned that privilege.
I would’nt have a problem if my wife wanted to.
Just jealous.
LGY,
Personally, I don’t either. But I don’t blog for the Yankees.
Doreen-
Can you do my laundry too??
I have it all in a laundry bag ready to go. I just couldn’t quite manage to actually get the clothes in a machine last night
Parenthood has been picked up!!! WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!
Erica
I only saw the first, like 6, episodes of Glee. I love the show, but havent had the time to watch it yet. Whats going on in it?
Face, I do understand the term in it’s baseball connotation…..However, as far as I can recall, Chad has never used it prior in that context……And we clearly know that there’s been times since late September ( when he took over the blog ) when that term could have been used…….As far as I’m concerned it’s a done deal for me, I apologized publicly for the censorship misunderstanding…..The next time a pitcher has to tough one out let’s see if that term is applied……I can assure you that Chad would never refer to a Sabathia outing as brutal when he busted his tail on the mound to keep his team in the game……Or any veteran pitcher for that matter…..If he did, it’d be a long time before he’ll ever get a quote from him again
Hey Doreen,
Joe will get back to this at some point…
Jeter SS
Johnson DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Swisher RF
Gardner LF
That’s if NJ is ready to play anyway.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say Granderson has a game winning HR tonight.
In the second inning…
M,
If you do not use it that way then why assume Chad did?
Doreen,
Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that!
The whole show is just entirely inappropriate. The whole madonna episode was good, but the losing the virginity theme? Inappropriate.
I can assure you that Chad would never refer to a Sabathia outing as brutal when he busted his tail on the mound to keep his team in the game??Or any veteran pitcher for that matter?..If he did, it?d be a long time before he?ll ever get a quote from him again
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You can’t honestly believe that. Brutal just doesn’t have the negative connotation that I think you guys are placing on it. Even a good outing can be brutal. The yankees lineup is brutal because you work harder facing them There are a lot of lineups that will hit for average, or hit for power, but not many lineups which will see more pitches or are the whole package.
The whole reason Glee is tolerable is because its inappropriate.
m,
lol
Honestly, I think Chad is spending too much time around Alex. Never says the right thing and controversy just follows him. Need to get this selfish bum outta here if we ever want to win Best Blog of the Year.
pat -
When you put it that way…
I wouldn’t think twice about going to the mall or visiting someone. I guess it’s because I know they’d love to go too, if they could.
Plus, it will cost less money than going to the mall (unless I go into the gift shop).
Erica –
Ugh. Laundry and grocery shopping – two staples of my week that I absolutely hate – as much as I like you, I will not do your laundry!!!!
m April 28th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Doreen,
Glad I wasn?t the only one who noticed that!
The whole show is just entirely inappropriate. The whole madonna episode was good, but the losing the virginity theme? Inappropriate.
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The concept of the family show is pretty much completely gone. Glee doesn’t pretend to be one
And Will & Kristin Chenowith just slept!
Doreen-
I love grocery shopping. (Not being sarcastic- I actually do). If time wasn’t ever an option I could spend a day in a great Supermarket. On Sunday mornings when I have nothing to do sometimes I get in my car and go to Fairway in Plainview. LOVE it
So lets switch. You do my laundry and I do your grocery shopping,
I am doing one of my Trader Joe runs tonight so let me know what you need!
No offense to anyone but is anyone besides me tired of the word “brutal”???
Brutal means really bad. And that would describe Robertson’s outing last night.
I could see what Chad might have meant, but there are better ways to describe it because as someone pointed out other pitchers (cough-Javy) have been brutal.
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Brutal was an appropriate description. Hughes struggled with his command all night, but somehow managed to work his way through it. It was “brutal” in the sense that the outing was a struggle, yet the end result was good — which shows how much Hughes has matured as a pitcher.
As far as Chad being biased and/or unduly critical against Hughes in other instances, I’d like some examples. Because I don’t see it.
Jeter SS
Swisher RF
Teixeira 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Johnson DH
Granderson CF
GGBG LF
I realize this is a creative and controversial line up, but I am feeling it. Thanks Doreen!
Erin April 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
No offense to anyone but is anyone besides me tired of the word ?brutal????
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As in-
The overuse of the word “brutal” is brutal????
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 28th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Erin April 28th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
No offense to anyone but is anyone besides me tired of the word ?brutal????
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As in-
The overuse of the word ?brutal? is brutal????
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Exactly!!
Doreen, when I go see the Pawsox play Scranton, more often than not I get tickets for the entire series and go by myself. I’m like Betsy. I absolutely love that freedom to worry about and take care of nobody but me.
My dad used to say that he/she travels fastest who travels alone.
Erica -
I used to love food shopping. The reason I no longer enjoy it is solely due to the fact that the closest supermarket is annoying the devil out of me. Never enough registers open; poor meat & fish departments; it’s ALWAYS crowded with people who are home every day and shop every day for about a bag’s worth of groceries, but who crowd the aisle and don’t hear you when you politely tell them “excuse me,” but who get very upset if you have to raise the volume of your voice.
My favorite supermarkets are over 20 minutes away and I don’t always want to drive that far.
m -
I really enjoy glee overall, but I do agree that some of the themes are over-the-top for me and that madonna episode made me extremely uncomfortable.
Some people are just WAY too sensitive about criticism of one of their favorite players….
Chad has done nothing to make us question his motives (unlike Pete). Nitpicking adjectives is complaining for the sake of complaining….
Doreen
Happy to help.
Play nice with the other fans and maybe you’ll make a new “real” friend who understands baseball obsession.
• In almost every way, Phil Hughes was brutal tonight, but he got through 5.2 innings with only one run on two hits.
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No one’s being sensitive.
It was just too broad a paintbrush.
Enough already.
pat -
Oh, yeah, I’ve definitely crossed the line. I think my husband used to like that I loved baseball and that I could at least try to like other sports and have actually grown to enjoy college basketball to some degree. But on Sunday, after the game, I watched the post-game and then the Joe Girardi show, and, well, he didn’t.
I pointed out to him that I watch a lot of thing with him that I don’t necessarily like, but, he doesn’t need the magazine aspect of baseball, just the game.
Seems to fit perfectly fine. Had no control, none of his pitches working, barely struck anyone out, walked a ton of guys, 109 pitches in only 5.2 IP
Core Four – four of the best reasons to be a Yankee fan …
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Go Yankees 2010 !!
SS Jeter
RF Swisher
1B Tex
3B Arod
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
DH Johnson
LF Gardner
Swish is hitting .485 at Camden Yards as a Yankee
Thanks Doreen
The fact that Chad used the word in that context made it even more understandable.
Hughes had brutal command, labored and through a lot of pitches, didn’t put hitters away, barely got any swings and misses, and by his own admission, didn’t feel good and his stuff dictated that.
Yet despite all that, Hughes threw 5.2 innings of 1 run.
What did Chad say that was so wrong? Everything about Hughes yesterday could be categorized as ‘brutal’ except the results (which is all that matters, but that is not what we are arguing).
Joba had many outings like Hughes did yesterday (lots of pitches, labored, walked more than he Kd, but somehow limited the damage) and many here including Pete categorized it as brutal.
Hughes actual pitching WAS brutal. What was good about his performance yesterday aside from the fact that he limited damage?
And Pat M has been the only person to notice this hidden hughes vendetta that Chad has, so i really wonder what comments Chad made that spurred the accusation where using the word brutal was the last straw.
Lot’s of folks puckering up today………
“Trisha,
I commend you for trying to get involved and help with animal law. But, I do hope for the sake of your mental health that you have the same thick skin in the real world that you demonstrate here. I have spoken with people involved in animal law and even the ?positive results? are often extremely disheartening. The legislature across the country is just miles behind any rudimentary understanding of justice that many people hold in regards to animals. Here in NY, Christine Quinn has struck down every proposed pro-animal legislation since taking over as Speaker of the NY City Council.
You may end up being much happier offering your services to a group/organization that aims to change/improve legislation for animal welfare.”
LGY, all excellent points. When I asked Dr. Finocchio (head of our SPCA) about lobbying for stronger laws, he said that we already had the laws in place and the problem was that nobody bothers enforcing them. He said that even though animal abuse carries penalties of up to three years in prison plus fines up to $1500 (I think it’s 1500), most of the time the person will get a slap on the wrist, some minor fine if any, and 10 hours of community service. He said the judges don’t want to be bothered with it, the police realize that they are wasting their time when they investigate because they know not much is going to be done about it, and city solicitors consider it a nuisance when compared to the other things they have to handle.
I thought that if I could become the major advocate, I could spend the time and press the judges and others involved and maybe start to get examples set so that other depraved losers who would hurt animals might think twice about it.
It may be all pie in the sky. And you are right about being thick skinned. I don’t know that I would be able to remain detached enough that I wouldn’t take my disappointments home with me. I guess I would have to find out.
Thanks though. I think I’ll now get back to the letters I have to write on behalf of my elderly clients.
I know why Mo is smiling. He is making a killing with his restaurant. NYC prices in white bread Westchester County.
Not that I enjoy arguing about this, but the fact that Phil only gave up one run seems to be an an afterthought.
Just the wording, not even the word.
It’s nitpicking, but how about, “Despite being brutal in almost every way, Phil Hughes only gave up 1 run in 5.2 IP”
I’m done. Seriously.
I’m over it. Really. 
Happy thoughts. Not brutal thoughts.
GTLU
Jeter SS
N J DH
Tex 1B
A-Rod 3B
Cando 2b
Posada C
Swish RF
Grandy CF
Gardy LF
Amazing job on GTLU Doreen, Thnx
Jeter ss
Johnson DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Need a Win tonight from the big Lefty
Mets are on fire. About to finish a 9-1 homestand… against 3 pretty good teams (Cubs, Braves, Dodgers). They are in 1st place now. They had a pretty brutal (no pun intended) 1st month of the season as well. Ike Davis really energized them.
Your rewording is the exact same sentence almost! If you really want to highlight his ~1 run~ a better sentence would be:
Phil Hughes gave up 1 run on 2 hits in 5.2 IP tuesday, despite a brutal pitching performance.
erin,
how do you make the hearts? they’re cute!
“I thought that if I could become the major advocate, I could spend the time and press the judges and others involved and maybe start to get examples set so that other depraved losers who would hurt animals might think twice about it.”
That makes sense. Keep on trucking!
Hi Doreen,
I’ll play.
Derek SS
Johnson DH
Tex 1B
Alex 3B
Robbie 2B
Jorge C
Curtis CF
Swisher RF
Gardner LF
Thanks
m, Lakers looked, well like the Lakers again
Which pitcher has the highest swing and miss rate in all of baseball so far this season?
The winner of Lohud Trivia gets a free meal of arroz con pollo on Nick’s dime!
And remember that recaps are supposed to allow the reader to get the feel for the game. Seeing that Hughes only gave up 1 run might suggest a more carefree outing. The reader should be properly informed as to the struggles required to only give up 1 run.
Which pitcher has the highest swing and miss rate in all of baseball so far this season?
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I wish I knew this off the top of my head, its some schmuck and its like a 30% whiff rate and its on the tip of my tongue.
Doreen
My husband is the same as yours. Live action sports with no backstory is fine with him. Must be a girl thing to enjoy getting to know the players as people just a little bit.
I used to be more obsessed with football than baseball.
Working out of a home office the majority of the week has turned this blog into the “water cooler” of sorts with baseball chatter 365 days a year so the baseball obsession has grown. I blame Pete.
CB April 28th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Which pitcher has the highest swing and miss rate in all of baseball so far this season?
The winner of Lohud Trivia gets a free meal of arroz con pollo on Nick?s dime!
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Takign a guess-
Phil Hughes???
(I hope Nick buys me stuff!)
Good afternoon Doreen:
Jeter SS
Johnson DH
Teixera 1B
Arod 3B
Can0 2B
Posada C
Granderson CF
Swisher RF
Gardner LF
Thanks as always
Unknown -
I got your lineup from earlier, unless you’re a different “Unknown?”
“I wish I knew this off the top of my head, its some schmuck and its like a 30% whiff rate and its on the tip of my tongue.”
If you think this is going to win you some arroz con pollo, you’re attempt at glory was sadder than Randy Winn’s throw to home plate via the secret tunnel from baltimore to china and back…
Pat,
Didn’t they! Sorry they cost you last week.
Not sure what to expect in OKC for Game 6. Hopefully, the same intensity.
I’ll bet Bernie Williams is extremely thankful that he retired a few years ago so that he didn’t have to be a part of that SI cover! It’s brutal.
Jerkface,
Couldn’t have said it better. Chad phrased it perfectly. Not his fault that people only want positive, glowing reviews about Hughes.
Jonathan Sanchez
Erica-
The brutal Phil Hughes? Grover has a higher whiff rate.
jeter ss
gardner lf
tex 1b
a-rod 3b
cano 2b
posada C
swish rf
winn dh
granderson cf
got to play those low percentages to catch up on doreen’s leader board!
Jerkface, that’s fine; no one’s saying that Chad has to wax poetic. However, as much time was spent on the Oakland performance, I find it interesting that many here were almost as impressed by Phil’s fortitude last night. I guess the bigger story is the pen since Chad led with that, but the bigger picture, the story should be Phil. I find it funny that Joel Sherman praised Pelfrey in his blog a few days ago for doing the same thing Phil did last night, but his blog today focused on the pen – not Phil. It’s just an observation- it doesn’t necessarily mean anything.
Phil has a loser gene AND a brutal gene – ouch, lol.
Not sanchez
Melkman
Watch it! I live in Westchester and haven’t had white bread in years.
Liriano – what do I win? LOL
My GTLU entry:
Jeter SS
Gardner LF
Tex 1B
Arod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Johnson DH
Granderson CF
CB April 28th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Erica-
The brutal Phil Hughes? Grover has a higher whiff rate.
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Poor Grover!!!!!!! Not only is he a superhero, but he is cute too!!!
(Please note: I highly identify with Grover and the pressure to be such an adorible superhero. I have a pic of Super Grover flexing his muscles as my work computer background. Does this surprise anyone?)
Brutalgate lives!
Is there a bounty for finding past usages?
pat -
That’s what I tell my husband – this is my watercooler. Unfortunately, i do a chore, come back for a chat; do a chore, come back for a chat. I need to get out more!
But one of the reasons I put GTLU on the laptop was so that once the weather gets nicer I can do it while sitting outside.
Betsy: If the yankees win, I assure you the discussion is on Hughes gutting out a victory. But we lost, and the reason we lost was quite clear and should be discussed.
I love Arroz con pollo – let it be Liriano, please. If not him, then (ick) Buchholz?
Not Liriano.
Doesn’t anyone want to make Nick $10 lighter in the pocket?
And if Chad has used the word “struggled”, he would be getting hammered as well.
“How did he struggle, he only gave up 1 run!” or “How did he struggle if he pitched into the 6th and limited the damage”? Typical biased Chad!
Sanchez is the highest according to fangraphs.
Jerkface, I happen to think the pen is a real problem so I have no issue discussing it.
Hm…
Highest swing and miss… Hughes?
It’s probably some reliever; Matt Capps?
CB April 28th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Not Liriano.
Doesn?t anyone want to make Nick $10 lighter in the pocket?
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I do! I do!
CC Sabathia!
Jerkface-
Stop cheating
ooh, mark: putting nick-the-stick down in the lineup!? man, that’s brutal….
Jose Contreras??? If we’re going by non-qualified pitchers
They have an arroz con pollo kiosk at the stadium now. 10$
“I throw it on the ground!”
I was in meetings all morning
Luckily they let me out in time to play!
SS Jetes
RF Swish
1B Tex
3B Alex
2B Cano
C Jorge
CF Granderson
DH NJ
LF GGBG
Thanks Doreen!
Jiminez
I have the following participants for GTLU so far:
Unknown
Erin
Patrick from CT
Erica
Phil Columbus
Sacfly
SAS
Fran (the original)
muffinstump
Mark in Tampa
If you submitted a lineup and don’t see your name, let me know. Between the clothes and the chit-chat…
I see 4 old men on the cover of SI. I’m guessing this year will be their swan song. The party is almost over. Then all you’ll have to rely on in the headcases in the 3 and 4 spots in the batting order!
Tough loss in Baltimore, but the record starts to even out when you have to finally play some of the good teams in the league! ; )
Ryan Madson!!!!!
# Melkman is in Hotlanta April 28th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
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I know why Mo is smiling. He is making a killing with his restaurant. NYC prices in white bread Westchester County.”
I’ve been to Mo’s quite a few times …prices aren’t unreasonable and I enjoy the food and atmosphere…great Yankee pics throughout…the back room has some amazing ones. White bread comment is off track too …
Gotta go to Mo’s …can’t wait to go again.
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
CB-
Ryan Madson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do I win???
Do I get Mr Nick’s money???
Please say yes
Matt Thorton?
Expectations are much lower for Pelfrey. He got praised that he didn’t blow up in that game because he is a headcase and in the past, that would have been a game that he would have imploded in.
Not to mention, his team won the game. If we had won, there would be a lot more articles praising Hughes. The story is the ‘brutal’ pen and rightfully so.
“Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 28th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I have the following participants for GTLU so far:
Unknown
Erin
Patrick from CT
Erica
Phil Columbus
Sacfly
SAS
Fran (the original)
muffinstump
Mark in Tampa”
Doreen,
I have a feeling that won’t be the lineup tonight, but why do you have me batting ninth?
“its some schmuck”
How dare you!
John Rauch?
NYY626-
I added you, as well.
Josh Johnson?
dan haren!
Roy Halladay!
Tyler Clippard.
Yes the Yankee Clippard has been amongst the league leaders in swing and misses for much of the year and as of yesterday or the day before he was tops in baseball.
Though Jonathan Sanchez could in fact have overtaken him after his last start and small sample issues.
Nick may or may not owe Jerkface some chicken and rice…
Pat, I have to say that Mo’s restaurant served excellent food when we went there 2 years ago. In fact I didn’t mind supporting MO (with those high prices) since he is probably the most decent man on the team.
Mark in Tampa -
I think you’re pitching.
Sanchez leads for qualified pitchers, Jose Contreras for relievers. Clippard is at 66.7%, but that was who I was thinking of in my brain.
Fangraphs doesn’t say he is the leader tho
Who has the highest swing and miss rate of all the bloggers guessing? I think I do, lol
Zito
Well, that appears to have been a terrible trade for the Yankees, though I doubt Clippard would be that good in the AL, nevermind the AL East.
Clippard always did have that nasty changeup.
Yanksgal, I made a special trip (over 750 miles) to visit family and eat at Mo’s so that makes me a true NYY fan unlike others
Doreen – GTLU Standings & Rules April 28th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Mark in Tampa -
I think you?re pitching.
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I was clean-up
Jerkface, I’m in Sonoma County, California right now — at some point this afternoon I’ll be driving down through Marin County en route to my home in San Francisco.
I am obliged to stop at the Puerto Rican Sol Food in San Rafael to fulfill a promise I made. Feel free to join me if you’d like to collect your prize.
yikes, how did it get so late…crazy day at work.
I will go w/ the standard so I don’t have to think
SS Jete
DH NJ
1B Tex
3B Alex
2b Robbie
C Posada
Rf Swish
CF Granderson
LF GGBG
thanks Doreen
I’ll be waiting, find me. I’ll be in a blue shirt.
“I think you?re pitching. ”
Prepare for a brutal outing, then.
Clippard hasn’t thrown many innings so it very well probably changed. But there was an article on clippard in the washington post the other day where they had him as the highest swing and miss rate.
Clippard was up around 41% swing and misses at the time.
So I thought I’d go with it.
I mean how many Yankee Clippard trivia questions can one come up with?
The pen went through a stretch last week when
CC pitched a CG (rain shortened)
AJ went 7 and we had a huge lead
Andy went 8
off-day
Vazquez can’t go 6 and we use the pen
Hughes pitches into the 8th
CC pitches a CG
Burnett goes 6
Andy goes 8
Only 2 of the past 9 games up to that point, have we had to use the pen for more than 2 innings.
If we’re winning games and getting innings, then the pen won’t be used much.
If we’re trailing a lot and the starters are not going deep, like the past 4 games, then the pen will be used a lot.
I learned a valuable lesson yesterday, so have no incorporated the all-important “Save” to my GTLU lineups.
Who is the only yankee to have a myspace profile featuring themself topless throwing up a gangster sign?
Another unlikely Tyler Clippard trivia question.
Jose Contreras, in a likely equally limited sample, has gotten a swing and a miss like 50% of the time 8o
As an aside – Clippard really has been terrific coming out of the pen for the Nats.
His stuff has really played up in short stints. He’s now sitting 91-93 on his fastball and that coupled with his change up have made him a very good reliever. Plus he’s so herky jerky he hides the ball well.
He’s a good example of how some young pitchers can surprise you once they get their role and stuff figured out.
Very hard to ever guess that clippard would lead the league in swings and misses when he was a starter and his fastball was around 88-90 and he lacked a polished third pitch.
Jake -
It may get to a point where Girardi might have to cut some starts short, no? Just to get the pen in there? Depending on game situation, of course.
I think it’s great that the starters have (a) been so effective, and (b) been stretched out a bit by Girardi, but the pen is probably feeling like the orphan child of the team right now.
steinbrenner and barbara walters went at it in his own box?
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....ng-oy-vey/
GTLU,
Derik Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriquez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Curtis Granderson CF
Nick Johnson DH
Brett Gardner LF
Thanks Doreen
‘Struggled’ is different from ‘was brutal’. No one would of said boo if the word struggled was used. Because we all saw Phil struggling. But not all of us thought it was brutal.
Anyway!
Betsy,
You asked about pitchers who qualify? Hughes qualifies for neither mlb nor espn. Espn.com does not explain what qualifies mean, but mlb.com indicates that a pitcher must have at least 1 IP per game played by the team. Phil has 18, team has played 19. But how about that BAA? Now that’s brutal!
Maybe they should stop screwing around and start beating bad teams like the Orioles. They’re not even the best team in New York right now.
Get there early; the wait can be brutal.
I have a Clipppard trivia question.
Which former Yankee celebrated their 1st game victory over the Mets with a Big Mac?
Melkman
Good for you supporting Mo. It’s only about 15 minutes away so we go 4 or 5 times a year. Aquarium and photos keep the kids entertained, the food is good and the people who work there are as nice as Mo.
“”Steinbrenner and barbara walters went at it in his own box?”"”
That sounds dreamy and romantic!
muffinstump April 28th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
erin,
how do you make the hearts? they?re cute!
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muffinstump, it’s
& hearts ;
(no spaces)
Seven Costanza April 28th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
steinbrenner and barbara walters went at it in his own box?
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Do you think he gave her a pinstriped cashmere cardigan afterward? With a red dot?
Mets are about to have more wins than us!!!
how can we let that happen!!
Erica – always OPPC – Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter April 28th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Poor Grover!!!!!!! Not only is he a superhero, but he is cute too!!!
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Super Grover is my favorite Superhero
Bronx Jeers April 28th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Do you think he gave her a pinstriped cashmere cardigan afterward? With a red dot?
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Hopefully, she didn’t notice the red dot.
Proper usage: m is struggling to let go of the topic after foreswearing it.
Improper usage: m is fighting a brutal battle on the LoHud.
M, I don’t even understand that; does that mean Phil will never qualify for being amongst the league leaders?
Oh please, the Yankees are a far better team than the Mets….
I haven’t played in a while:
D Jeter SS
N Johnson DH
M Teixeira 1B
Al Rodriquez 3B
R Cano 2B
J Posada C
C Granderson CF
N Swisher RF
B Gardner LF
Proper usage: I’m struggling not to roll my eyes at whiny Yankee fans.
Improper usage: Phil was brutal
It’s amazing how crazy the “chicken littles” get the Yanks lose a game. Ridiculous.
thanks, erin.
practice: ♥ ♥ ♥
You need 162 innings to qualify by seasons end. Thats why relievers don’t win ERA/K/WIN titles
Seven Costanza April 28th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
steinbrenner and barbara walters went at it in his own box?
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/…..ng-oy-vey/
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I like gossip but I did not need to know this….lol
Betsy,
He will. He just needs more innings. And the team needs more games off.
Basically, at season’s end, he’ll need more than 162 IP to qualify.
Should be an easy one tonight. I really doubt they drop Johnson down, but I guess we’ll see.
Jeter SS
Johnson DH
Tex 1B
ARod 3B
Cano 2B
Posada C
Swisher RF
Granderson CF
Gardner LF
Melkman ….
I travel all over the country to see the Yanks play each season (going to LA, Baltimore, Florida this year). 40 games at the Stadium a season AND I also eat at Mo’s two to three times a year….I think that trumps your 750 miles and qualifies me as a NYY fan unlike any other …
….LOL !!
Go Yankees 2010 !!
I read Barbara Walters book and she does talk about some of her romances in there; I don’t recall seeing any mention of George. Perhaps she was being discreet since he is still married. Perhaps the world doesn’t have to know EVERYTHING!!!!
Isn’t this an unauthorized biography of Steinbrenner?
“They’re not even the best team in New York right now.”
No. Very true. Losing the World Series of April would be brutal.
And comparing the “now” records of a team playing 10 straight games at home out of the first 20 and against the NL with a team on a 9 game road trip including a swing out west seems a sensible way to gauge the two teams.
Nevermind the yankees have far more talent and a better record “now.”
One more thing and I’m done.
Someone calling themselves brutal and someone describing someone else as brutal are two different things.
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Thanks Doreen!
Melkman …
Did you get to see the back room?? It has some terrific pics of Mo and the team. If not ..make sure you see it the next time you travel that 750 miles…:)…
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
This argument is brutal. Especially because those who were anti-brutal ended up thoroughly (and ironically!) brutalized.
Also the Mets are the best team in NY currently, because the Yankees happen to be in Baltimore.
Doreen,
I think we are back to the regular lineup
SS Jeter
DH NJ
1B Tex
3B ARod
2B Robbie
C Jorgie
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF GGBG
You should definitely go to Lakewood. The minor leagues are great fun. BTW, I was at the Trenton Thunder game last night. Romine is for real.
someone here thinks the mets will end with a better record than the yankees?
Also, who cares about the Mets? Ok, they’re playing extremely well……..and?
“Fans” that can’t handle slumps ought not to watch baseball.
Jerkface,
M, I figure after Phil’s 2nd no-hitter this year, he will have enough innings to count among the league leaders….
RL15
I am 99% sure I’m going to go.
We’ve been to Lakewood and Trenton both, before. Not this year yet, though.
I can’t wait to see a game in Trenton – looking forward to seeing Romine for myself. Last year I got to see Montero before his promotion. A real treat.
Betsy – Hughes rules (Pleading the Fifth) April 28th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Also, who cares about the Mets?
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Mets fans.
The following people are playing GTLU so far today:
Unknown
Erin
Patrick from CT
Erica
Phil Columbus
Sacfly
SAS
Fran (the original)
muffinstump
Mark in Tampa
NYY626
upstate kate
Dave F
IDCWYT
uw7
RayVT
RL15
If you submitted a lineup and don’t see your name on the list, let me know. Thanks.
The yanks have lost 4 of their last 5…
Fire Cash and Girardi and open our arms for Omar and Jerry because they are WINNERS!
YankeesPR Yankees AA minor leaguers built with Habitat for Humanity in East Trenton this morning – http://tiny.cc/s4sou
Nick-
If things go right, I’ll hopefully be knocking back some hot chocolate and churros while you’re having you’re arroz con pollo!
Face, I think your crusade has run it’s course……..You can rest now……
Granted it is a small sample size, but still it seems that Brad Penny illustrates that pitching in the National League and the AL East are two very different things.
Last year the Sox end up releasing Penny, and so far this year with St. Louis he is 3-0 with an ERA of 0.94!
I’m less crusade, more inquisition.
If the Yankees were in the NL East their record would have them in lst…
As I have stated ….it’s not where you start but where you finish. Remember last year …
Yankees started “brutal” but won it all. I love that kind of finish !!!!
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
CB: I wish I could watch. I am an Henry fan so I will submit to Barca’s greatness.
A buddy of mine is going to Barca this summer and we were just discussing Dulcinea.
You take a team like the Orioles and the beat the Yankees. What does that tell me? YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN BASEBALL! HOW DO YOU PREDICT THIS GAME SUZYN? I met the President of the United States and when he won the election I proclaimed…..BARACK OH-BAMA! HE’S BIGGER THAN THE DALI LAMA!
YanksGal, I didn’t get to visit the backroom at Mo’s. BTW, last year we traveled to Cleveland and Atlanta to see the NYY play. At Cleveland I was able to say hello to M Kay as he was hanging his head out of the announcer’s booth.
Erin
The NL is pretty sad, Ray. It stinks that mediocre pitchers can simply switch leagues and extend their careers.
Oh my, churros and hot chocolate? I LOVE LOVE Churros….and dipped in hot chocolate? In Paris, they make it with REAL chocolate, so it’s nice and rich and incredibly delicious.
Barca, the beast of carthage, was a noted gay.
Good luck today, CB!
I wont be able to watch the 2nd half. Emergency veterinarian appointment!
Dulcinea-
That’s good stuff there. A little too sweet but a treat nonetheless!
Your friend is a lucky fellow…
Javy Vazquez was an ace in the NL.,.. that should tell you all you need to know about that league.,..
CR9-
Thanks. I know the math doesn’t look good but for some reason I feel optimistic. Cautiously optimisitic, but optimistic nonetheless.
Hey Doreen,
I’m gonna start trying this now though I doubt I’ll be very good..I figure today is the one day the line up might be the same as opening day.
SS Jeter
DH Johnson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
C Posada
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Does anyone else’s browser get stuck “Transferring data from ad.doubleclick.net” ?
Jeter SS
Gardner LF
Tex 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Cano 2B
Jorge C
Granderson CF
Swisher RF
Johnson 1B
Might as well go out on a limp….
m
Yes. All the time!
m: no, that sounds… really bad.
i think that rivera needs to get into the game tonight no matter what. he hasnt worked since oakland.
Ian, -
I’m assuming you want Johnson to DH? You have two 1B.
Man what a sense of pride reading about these 4. Do they realize just how big a deal, they are
in the Yankees history?
When you see the Core Four, think of the pride they’ve given all of Yankees Universe, as well as Big Stein’s promise to NY when he bought the Yankees, with a commitment to WS wins!!.
Home grown Yankees Hall of Fame inductee for sure.. Mariano should get an award name after him.
Yankees are an international brand. Last year, in my travels all over the world, people “would ask if Yankees win WS this time?”
CR9,
And when you refresh it does absolutely nothing? Then do you have to go to LoHud’s homepage and click on the thread you were on?
It’s…really bad.
Long time no speak folks.
I’ve been watching the Dodgers lately and started to wonder – if they continue to stink (and I see no reason why they won’t) wouldn’t Manny Ramirez be one of the most attractive trade targets around?
I’m not necessarily talking just about the Yankees, but in general for any AL Team looking to make a push – they could get an absolute slugger in the final year of his contract for the stretch run.
I’m assuming you want Johnson to DH? You have two 1B.
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and unless you were bring funny by making a nj is always hurt joke, i think you mean limb.
Melkman …
I visited Progressive when it was the Jake a few years ago. Nice stadium but those Indian fans can be quite rude and boisterious toward the Yankees and their fans…at least when I was there. That drum in the outfield drove me nuts but nowhere as bad as the darn cowbells in Tampa and when I went to see them play the Marlins. I guess cowbells are a Florida thing so that’s another reason I wouldn’t ever move to Florida … lol
I’ve been to 21 different Stadiums …never been to Atlanta tho’. I finally was able to see the Yanks in Fenway last season for the first time…fortunately it was the 20-11 win in August. If I had to pick a game it couldn’t have been better ..those Sox fans were running out of the place faster than a speeding bullet…
. I didn’t have a problem wearing all my Yankee gear…what could they possibly say…except …”Yankees Suck” ..the usual…haha. It was great !!!
Favorite Stadiums beside Yankee are Wrigley, Camden & Safeco. Least favorite Metrodome, Tropicana (although I love their HOF), Shea (Citi is a HUGE improvement), RFK (gotta see the new Nats place) and whatever they call the Marlins since that name seems to change constantly..lol.
I’m looking forward to Yanks/Dodgers …can’t wait…
Hoping the Yankees take it tonight …Go CC …
Go Yankees 2010 !!!
Braden vs Big Game James tonight. I know I have to root against the Rays but…….
Hard to get MO work on the road because he will be pitching the 8th inning if we are trailing…
If we tie the game or take a lead in the top of the 9th, then MO will have to pitch 2 innings….
Rays are 2.5 games ahead of us
GO BRADEN!!!
Or we could just pitch a different pitcher in the 9th.
Dallas Braden has already marked his personal catwalks in Tampa.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/.....id=5142755
Congratulations to the United States for winning the bronze in Women’s gymnastics. In 2000.
Still waiting for the 2008 results to be nullified for the Chinese women…
dont be too concerned with our place in the standings right now.
yanks are 2-1 vs. tampa. they will keep tampa in check as the year goes on.
GTLU Is Now Closed.
Thanks for playing everyone!
pat April 28th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Braden vs Big Game James tonight.
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The Rays better be careful not to walk across Braden’s mound!!!
Nick in SF in Cotati, CA April 28th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Dallas Braden has already marked his personal catwalks in Tampa.
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Doreen-
Did I come up with the most unique line up today??
I realize int he random chance I actually win, I will probably be accused of cheating
m -
It took 10 years for them to reach a decision?
CR9,
Never mind. I just used the “back” button and then refreshed.
While looking at the stats last night, Braeden was very near the top in one category. I want to say it was WHIP.
Dong, what a great name. Though this allegation that the chinese gymnasts were underage casts a dark shadow on my viewing of those events. And a dark shadow over my pantslessness at the time.
i just hope if braden pitches at YS later this year and goes to back up homeplate and steps on the base, that Posada or Cervelli make an overexaggerated example of him. Ir if Braden steps on third on his way to the dugout.
My lineup for today is:
Jeter-DH
Gardner-LF
Tex-1B
ARod-SS
Cano-2B
Posada-C
Granderson-CF
Swisher-RF
Pena-SS
Doreen,
lol. I just skimmed the article, but the smoking gun may have been Dong’s blog citing her Chinese zodiac sign? Not sure. But sounds good.
New Post: HOPE Week returning to Yankee Stadium
Erica -
Yes. You have a unique lineup.
erica…. unique but unless girardi quit last night and someone else took over, no way he bats three lefties in a row. especially when one cant hit lefties and the other cant hit anything.
Yanksgal, You are the true Yankee fan. I’m 2nd in line lol.
The more losses for Tampa, the better.
Braden getting rocked does nothing for us.
lol. I just skimmed the article, but the smoking gun may have been Dong?s blog citing her Chinese zodiac sign?
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Not to mention she worked at the Beijing olympics and her birthdate in the employee database put her at 14. I think that would be a bigger smoking gun than the blog, who thinks they are going to get away with that?
Thats like robbing a bank, then working at the bank and using your stolen, marked up bills to buy funyuns from the employee cafe.
“Dallas Braden has already marked his personal catwalks in Tampa.”
he’s going to be really ticked off when the A’s play the Rangers and he sees all those signs using his name.
I said I was rooting against the Rays but doesn’t mean I can’t root for Braden and James to both get rocked around and have the A’s pen get the win!
new thread
HOPE Week
can the Yankees get back on track tonight? i hope so. C.C. is on the mound. looking for a big improvement from his last start.