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Postgame notes: Vazquez makes a promise to do better, but can he keep it?

Posted by: Josh Thomson - Posted in Misc on May 01, 2010 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Javier Vazquez stood there and tried to explain why he finds himself so lost five starts into his second stint as a Yankee. Somehow, his unsightly ERA soared even higher today after allowing five runs on seven hits and four walks in just three-plus innings.

Vazquez is now just 1-3 with a 9.78 ERA and he remains determined to correct that. But how? That he couldn’t quite say.

“It’s tough. I can’t hide that. It’s tough. But I promise everybody I’m going to keep working hard at it and battle through it,” he said.

Vazquez said he had mechanical issues before but found the resolve to execute quality pitches. Not today. He allowed three homers for just the 15th time in his career. He has never allowed more.

The obvious question was about Friday night in Boston, when Vazquez would be scheduled to pitch next. Joe Girardi wouldn’t touch that topic, not with more pressing questions — what’s wrong with Curtis Granderson, how serious is his injury, who will play the outfield, and who is available to pitch out of a taxed bullpen — left to be answered.

“There’s no doubt about it right now that he’s scuffling,” Girardi said. “We have to find a way to get him back on track. But my concerns right now is tomorrow and the next day and how we deal with some of the things we’re dealing with right now.”

Of course, the Yankees will have the luxury to yank Vazquez from the rotation for a turn because they have Thursday off. But he’d be called to pitch in Detroit on May 11th, at home against Minnesota five days later and at Citi Field five days after that. The band-aid may not fit for long.

Although Vazquez’s confidence is shaken, his mechanics all stirred, he continued to insist the jeers of the home crowd do not deter him any more than his pitching.

“When you do bad you expect to get booed. It’s something I’m clear on. When you do bad, you’re going to get booed. For me, really, that’s not even a question right now,” he said. “When you’re not doing good, they’re going to boo you. I really have to turn it around and hopefully the boos will turn into cheers.”

Girardi compared Vazquez to Damaso Marte, who struggled mightily, was booed and went on to become a World Series hero as Ryan Howard’s kryptonite. But no one seems to have a solution for Vazquez other than to offer him support.

“It is what it is, you know?” Jorge Posada said. “You have to stay positive with him. I know what he’s capable of doing so I’m going to stay positive.”

If you want to hear Vazquez in his own words, here’s the audio:

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Other notes:
— Posada said he felt “good” after returning to the lineup. He missed two games after being hit on the right knee by a pitch from Jeremy Guthrie on Wednesday. Posada finished the game 0 for 4 but caught all nine innings.
— Mark Teixeira went 2 for 4. It was his second multi-hit game of the season. The last was 4/10/10 at Tampa.
— Girardi said he will use Brett Gardner in center with Granderson out. Marcus Thames, who has now reached base in each of his eight starts, and Randy Winn will play left.
— Sergio Mitre tossed three hitless innings in relief of Vazquez. Alfredo Aceves added 1.2 innings of hitless ball. Girardi doesn’t expect either will be available tomorrow, hence the promotion of Mark Melancon from Scranton.
— The guy who gets overshadowed with all of today’s craziness is Nick Swisher. He snapped an 0-for-22 skid with a single in the fifth and later struck for a two-run homer in the sixth that gave the Yankees the lead, 6-5.

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453 Responses to “Postgame notes: Vazquez makes a promise to do better, but can he keep it?”

  1. Erin May 1st, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    “It is what it is, you know?” Jorge Posada said. “You have to stay positive with him. I know what he’s capable of doing so I’m going to stay positive.”

    ************************
    me too, Posada! :)

    Too bad about Granderson-hopefully he’s a quick healer.

  2. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Javy this ain’t the NL.

  3. Doreen - GTLU Standings, Updates, Calendar & Rules May 1st, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    What’s up with Robertson?

    Any ideas on what’s causing his inconsistencies and ineffectiveness so far?

    I have no doubt Javy’s working hard. As long as he is truly healthy, I know it will turn around. This sounds naive after today, I understand that, but baseball is a game where things turn on a dime.

    Tex was 2 for 4? That’s a huge plus. May 1st. Who’da thunk it?

  4. HughesTheAce May 1st, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    Key is to get Javy back on track and the pen straightened out.

    Granderson and the OF will take care of itself – maybe he’s back in 6 weeks – maybe the Yanks go get a Scott Podsednik – the key is to have the pitching click – b/c as we saw today – we could have won this game with either solid starting pitching or effective relief help/decisions re: Marte and Robertson. Let’s go get’em tomorrow.

  5. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:04 pm

    NY is in Javy’s head, no doubt. He seems the sensitive type. Too much pressure and a DH instead of a pitcher to face.

  6. baseball jesus May 1st, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    right now Mitre is a better pitcher than Vas. Gardy has an opertunity to show what he can do as an everyday player in CF. Golson should be called up for defense and robo should be sent down to work on his pitches,

  7. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    It must be tough for a pitcher. There’s not getting right back on the horse. Got 5 days to let stuff get to you.

    I suppose he’ll do his bullpens and stuff. Too bad they can’t take a mental health break like the hitters can.

    I wonder if sitting out one turn in the rotation would relieve any pressure?

    BTW, I do believe Javy when he says the booing is not affecting him. But something definitely is affecting him.

  8. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Just a matter of time for the pundits to be calling Carl Crawford, calling Carl Crawford.

  9. Doreen - GTLU Standings, Updates, Calendar & Rules May 1st, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    And not to nitpick (well, yes, to nitpick :) ),but from the quote it sounds like Javy promised to work hard, not to be better. You can’t expect people to promise results, but he can keep a promise about putting in the effort.

  10. Chris May 1st, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    mick, shut up.

  11. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    BTW, I do believe Javy when he says the booing is not affecting him. But something definitely is affecting him.
    ============================
    I believe he is in denial.
    He is definitely putting enough pressure on himself regardless of the fans.
    But he does know they are there.

  12. dan l May 1st, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    mick,

    yep. watching the mets/dodgers game last week… the good LA hitter swinging through maine’s straight 87 MPH fastballs up in the zone.

    AL is a different animal. good teams like the white sox will hurt him.

  13. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    chris, why?

  14. Scott May 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    As Josh said, what good does skipping him in Fenway do?

    His next 3 starts are against the Tigers, Twins, and Mets – all teams that can hit as well.

    Skipping him in Fenway is just delaying the inevitable. He either has the stomach to pitch in NY or he doesn’t.

  15. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Javy needs a good groin pull like Grandy. Give Mitre the 5th spot. Hughes will be #4 in the postseason anyway. 1 and done for Javy. And NJ.

  16. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    What good? Just to give him a break. Happened to lots of pitchers. Some of them (moose) even get sent to the bullpen.

  17. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Skipping him in Fenway is just delaying the inevitable. He either has the stomach to pitch in NY or he doesn’t.

    ===========================
    Looks like he doesn’t, now what?

  18. stuart May 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    AJAx is outplaying granderson by a mile… Ajax had 5 hits yesterday..

    granderson is hitting 180 against lefties like last year.

    robertson another nice outing. if he does not get it together he or boone or both will be in SWB……

    that walk to quentin pseudo intentional came back to hurt big time….

    johnson, tex, and granderson offensively are doing almost nothing……………

  19. Giuseppe Franco May 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    I think there are a lot of Yankee fans that cannot handle the 162 game grind of a baseball season.

    Not everything is going to go in their favor.

  20. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    Let Javy get his bell rung by the RS, Tigers, Twins and Mets. That’s the ticket. Just trade him now for someone of value.

  21. teddy May 1st, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    maybe 10 days to get things right

  22. igotid88 May 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    So will the thunderstorms affect Phil tomorrow? I don’t want him to be cruising through 4. Then sit out for a 45 minute rain delay.

  23. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Skipping him in Fenway prevents the Red Sox, our division rivals, from also getting in his head.

    Also, what good does it do? It doesnt hand our division rivals a free win (not that it necessarily is a free win, as no such thing exists).

  24. Ja May 1st, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Dice-K looking very sharp

    4 innings, 1 hit, 4 Ks

  25. Mailman May 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Skipping Javy just gives him 5 extra days to think about his failures.

    Nothing is going to relax him aside from pitching and pitching well.

  26. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Like I said, Hughes will be the #4 starter in the playoffs, why waste much more time with Javy? Mitre can give you 150 innings.

  27. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Im sure Javy would understand if Girardi came up to him and explained that Fenway Field is a bandbox and that pop flies turn into singles, doubles, and home runs all the time.

    Not the ideal place for him to pitch right now, with his struggles.

  28. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Hi from rainy Joplin, MO.

    I have read the other threads. Do the Yankees know how long Granderson will be out.

  29. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    that should be “have not”

  30. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    Javy will be here for one year, if he makes it through this one. No need to pamper him, sit him down or send him down to work on his mechanics.

  31. Dylan May 1st, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    All of our new additions are doing terribly right now. Lets remember where the Yankees were at this time last year though. CC and Burnett looked very hittable and Tex couldn’t hit a lick. Fast forward to October and CC had 19 wins, Burnett was a solid #2, and Tex was having an MVP type season. Johnson and Granderson will start hitting. Same with Arod and Tex. The only guy i’m worried about is Vazquez. I’m really not sure he has what it takes to pitch in NY.

  32. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    that read should be “have not”

  33. Yank 97 May 1st, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Cannot let Vazquez start in Fenway Field.

    Just what he needs… to give up 9 runs in 1.2 innings to them… that will help his psyche and set a great tone for the series.

    Protect him and protect the team. Let him start in Detroit… big ballpark, mediocre lineup, not a lot of hype. Keep him out of the rivalry for his own and the team’s good.

    \

  34. Erin May 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm

    SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:20 pm
    Hi from rainy Joplin, MO.

    I have read the other threads. Do the Yankees know how long Granderson will be out.

    ************************
    SAS, right now there’s no timetable for his return.

  35. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    sorry for the double entry.

  36. Erin May 1st, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    LoHudYankees RT @injuryexpert: @benshpigel I say I’m glad it’s not me. 2-4 weeks.

  37. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    This will be Winn’s shot to show if he has anything left. Thames is a butcher in Left.
    Better off playing Winn everyday and platooning NJ and Thames.

  38. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Are they going to bring someone up the AAA? I fell asleep in the car and my husband hadn’t paid much attention.

  39. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    SAS,

    They’re going to bring up melancon for now. We’re all thinking they’ll bring up an OF after the bullpen is recharged.

  40. Erin May 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm

    SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    Are they going to bring someone up the AAA

    *********************
    Melancon will be up tomorrow.

  41. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Erin, thanks

  42. H-Town May 1st, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Shut CG down until the playoffs.

    No need to rush him… let him take his time.

  43. igotid88 May 1st, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    I’m guessing from the non responses it won’t rain tomorrow then. Good

  44. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Hopefully, Melancon will do will in the majors. I know he was up at least once before, but I don’t remember that he did well up in NY. I wish him big time good luck this time.

  45. randym77 May 1st, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    If they don’t trade for a center fielder, I have to think they’ll call up one of the outfielders from Scranton. I’m surprised they’re going without a backup CFer even for a few days.

    Greg Golson has been playing CF for Scranton. He’s been playing well, and is on the 40-man. Colin Curtis is more of a corner OF type, and he’s on the DL anyway. Chad Huffman is on the 40-man as well.

  46. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    well*

  47. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    When will Chan Ho be back?

  48. Trevor May 1st, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “I’m guessing from the non responses it won’t rain tomorrow then. Good”

    Mix of sun and clouds. High of 87. Slight chance of afternoon thunderstorms. Windy.

  49. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    NJ looks real bad at the plate.

  50. Tank May 1st, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    SAS,

    He was the guy who hit someone everytime he was brought in

  51. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Orioles are still in it.

    Izturis narrowly avoided grounding into a DP. I guess Izturis was not interested in hits with RISP like he was against us in our loss to them.

  52. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    M…I appreciate all of you keeping me up to date. We left Santa Rosa, NM in the car with the dog and coffee at 7:00 MDT.

  53. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    KC – TB tied at 2 bottom 8th.

  54. John May 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    NJ… another great Cashman acquisition. A player who doesn’t want to swing the bat.

    This off-season certainly wasn’t Cashman’s finest work. Odd considering that he was coming off a world championship and had little tweaking to do. Yet he tinkered in the wrong way. He is too creative for his own good.

  55. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    Thames in the OF is ridiculous given how, in only his few starts out there, he’s butchered several balls.

  56. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    SAS,

    Did you lock Nick in your trunk? We haven’t heard from him since you left SF. Hmmm….

  57. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    SAS, you passed within 10 miles of Mickey Mantle’s hometown in Commerace, Oklahoma.

  58. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    go KC

  59. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    CC, AJ and Andy are the keys to this team…we have enough hitting and the pen will be alright.

  60. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    I don’t think it’s NY at all. This guy has serious mechanical issues…..OR his arm is bothering him. I guess the Yankees don’t think this is the case or else they would have sent him for a full examination. He definitely seems to lack confidence, but I believe that once he finds himself, he will be just fine.

    I’m not so confident that we will be ok without Granderson over several weeks.

  61. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Daisuke has fallen apart!!!

    Wieters proves me wrong, with an opposite field 3 run BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    7-4 ORIOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. Tn Yankee May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Mick,
    Don’t forget Mo lockin it down. They just gotta get it to him. Stay positive.

  63. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Hey, GB…

    Is Commerce off I40 (old route 66).

  64. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    I guess THATS what people see in Wieters’ offensive game!!!!

  65. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    So Ben Shpiegel is guessing 2-4 weeks? He should stick to writing stories.

  66. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    Some guys cannot pitch in NY betsy. Remember Ed Whitson?

  67. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    Dice-K,

    0.00 to 11.57 just like that.

  68. teddy May 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    and some guys overcome their ny struggles hint ” arod”

  69. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    I hit enter before I was finished. That gives me goose bumps. We go by the 2x a year. How I loved the Mick

  70. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    believe me Javy won’t have as long a rope as Arod did

  71. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    It’s about 7 miles west off of I44 on the will Rogers Turnpike, SAS on US69.

  72. Jakke May 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Javy was supposed to have his ‘easy’ starts against Oakland and today against a subpar hitting Chi Sox team. He was mediocre in OAK town and even worse today.

    Not going to get any easier for him… Sox on the road, Detroit on the road, Minnesota, Mets on the road.

    Better get those mechanics fixed in a hurry. I dread thinking what the Sox will do to him in that little league ballpark where pop ups are out.

  73. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Hi Betsy

  74. m May 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Daisuke pulled for…Wakefield. Oh, the irony.

  75. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Yeah Mick, but Ed Whitson was treated criminally by fans; it was disgraceful to say the least. Ian O’Connor’s article where he s/w Ed Whitson (on ESPNNY) is very, very good – I recommend it. In any case, Javy and Whitson are not the same people. I’m not willing to say Javy can’t pitch in NY.

  76. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Hi SAS from Joplin, MO, lol

    Are you on a road trip ? Yesterday you were in New Mexico; where will you be next?

  77. U-Turn May 1st, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Unfortunately, we don’t get to face Dice-BB :(

    we face Beckett-Buchholz-Lester.

  78. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    If Javy doesn’t get it together soon we won’t be seeing much of him. He is not as integral as some seem. we won without him last year.

    As I said before Hughes will be the 4th starter over him in the playoffs.

  79. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    M, you want to see a cute Phil interview? Take a look at this:

    http://web.yesnetwork.com/medi.....id=7765015

    He’s beyond adorable, almost giddy. Catch the part where he talks about his parents.

  80. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    Some guys cannot pitch in NY betsy. Remember Ed Whitson?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Neither could Catfish Hunter in 1975 when he lost his first 5 starts and had an ERA of 5.71

  81. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    I’m not willing to say Javy can’t pitch in NY.
    ================================
    What is your cutoff point?

  82. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    you’re not comparing Javy and Catfish are you?

  83. Rockks May 1st, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    Forget Javy. I am worried about our offense. Tex, A-Rod, and NJ are doing nothing. I’m not even sure if NJ will break out of it,. He was a .270 career hitter in the NL and seems more interested in walking than hitting. Winn is going to be a severe downgrade from Curtis. I doubt Gardner can keep up this torrid pace. Even Cano is going to cool off and maybe already has. Posada looked awful the last 2 days and isn’t 100%.

    Offense is a big concern in the short term and while Curtis is out. Today they did nothing in the final 3 innings. They need to wake up and give Phil runs tomorrow.

  84. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I don’t have a cutoff point, Mick….You seem to have an early one. We need Javy Vasquez and I think pretty badly.

  85. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    They are not hitting as a team. They are relying on hot streaks from one or two players at a time. They have enough hitting to get by. Pitching is and will always be the key.

  86. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    So much for Montero is a bad defensive catcher and can’t throw out base runners. He’s catching Sanchez, who has the slowest time to the plate of anybody around, but, Montero has thrown out Corey Patterson and Joey Gaithright tonight.

  87. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    ok betsy i’m with you, let javy go vs the RS, tigers, twins and mets, that should be a good litmus test. not worried about this team.

  88. Rick May 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    mick

    Javy is getting nowhere near the postseason rotation even if he pitches well the rest of the year. Can’t trust him at all. Hughes is the #4, no questions. Don’t tell me about innings limits, we have a championship to win.

  89. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    The Yankees scored 6 runs today and 6 runs last night.

    And people are complaining about the complaining about the offense.

    Its so sad that people won’t be happy unless the team puts up double digit runs every night

  90. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    Wigginton with a 2 HR game!!!

  91. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    You know what is funny and sad at the same time.

    I bet if you go back 1 year there are tons of posts about how bad Cashman’s offseason acquisitions were. CC was only an innings eater, Tex was a bust, and Burnett was a headcase always on the verge of imploding.

    Some people will never learn that the baseball season is very long. How can you make the same mistakes over and over again?

  92. mick May 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    as far as needing javy very badly, once again you are overreacting. he will NOT start in the playoffs IMO with your baby Phil over him in a heartbeat.

  93. IA 8 May 1st, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Javy agains the Sox, Tigers, Twins, and Mets?

    Do we want him to be 1-7 before we remove him from the rotation on Memorial Day?

    Well if that is the rationale, then sure, send him out there.

  94. Ken May 1st, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    We played like .750 baseball in the second half last year with our Big 3 and Mitre/Joba/Gaudin rounding out the rotation. Hughes will be miles better than that combo. who cares about javy?

    Javy ain’t starting in the playoffs anyway and we don’t need him to win in the regular season. We won last year with a worse rotation.

  95. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Tampa bullpen vs. KC bullpen…

  96. Tn Yankee May 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    LGY
    You are exactly right. Last year Cashman was an idiot for overpaying for Burnett, before that it was not getting Johan Santana, and before that….. Some people are always looking for the opportunity to say “I told you so” But you never hear about it if they win the championship. This year is no different

  97. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    LGY, some people just want to rag on Cashman….

  98. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    m May 1st, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    Tampa bullpen vs. KC bullpen…
    ***********

    Soria getting another save = Erica really happy

  99. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    girardi, for all his patience, is getting fed up with javy. his body language in the dugout shows he has no confidence. what’s wrong with sending him down for awhile if he continues to get lit up? mitre will do at least as well…the reason they got javy was for a 4th starter in the playoffs and an innings eater…not the end of the world if neither happens…we won last year without him.

  100. BBFan May 1st, 2010 at 9:04 pm

    Bringing Melancon is a needed move as the bullpen is taxed.
    Need not worry about backup in CF if Gardner gets hurt.
    Winn is serviceable in CF and the worst case scenario is one game after which they can bringup Golson.

  101. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Betsy..

    We hope to get to Dayton or Columbus OH, and then home.

  102. BBFan May 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    You can not send Javy down, there are no options left. He is a veteran.

  103. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    SAS, where is home? I feel like I’m on the road trip with you, lol.

  104. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    Worst case scenario:

    Javy keeps getting lit up and you can’t send him down.

    What do you do?

  105. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    HOLY SCHNAFU!!!

    The Orioles are leading 11-4!!

  106. BBFan May 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    What was troubling with Javy today was his breaking stuff was not good either. Previoulsy, his problems were mainly with his fastball. He has gotten worse.

    Still, he is quality pitcher and I hope he turns it around.

  107. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Ya think this is what Remy meant when he said they were looking for a sweep?????

    :lol:

    YES ORIOLES!!!!

    Obviously not quite as lousy as some had painted them to be.

    :) :) :)

  108. XLJ May 1st, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    If Granderson is out a month or two I hope they bring up Colin Curtis whenever he gets off the dl. He has been playing great in Scranton and had great spring training.

    Winn can play all 3 outfield positions which is why the yanks signed him. Right now I would keep Melancon up and go with the extra pitcher.

  109. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    The RS are overrated by the idiot pundits. The O’s have better hitting than them.
    RS pitching aint all that, esp the pen.

  110. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks to all the faithful who sent negatiive vibrations to the Sux! You did me proud.

    :)

  111. BBFan May 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    “Worst case scenario:

    Javy keeps getting lit up and you can’t send him down.

    What do you do?”

    If he does not correct his problems Javy can be sent to the bullpen and Mitre or Ace will start.

  112. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    You’re more than welcome TRISHA!!!

  113. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    “The RS are overrated by the idiot pundits. The O?s have better hitting than them.
    RS pitching aint all that, esp the pen.”

    That would be an overwhelming bingo!

  114. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Sore shoulder. DL stint with rehab starts. There’s got to be a point where enough is enough. It might not be now, but I think it’ll be sooner than later.

  115. Tn Yankee May 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Trisha
    The faithful never stop sending bad vibrations to the sux. But you’re welcome anyway.

  116. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    My hope is that Gardy continues to emerge.
    He has become a major pest, both at the plate and on the bases. A distraction, to say the least.

  117. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Trisha

    Could you do me a favor and send bad vibrations to the Celtics?

  118. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    The O’s still stink. Dice-K is terrible and the Red Sox have no offense. Also, in a game they are winning 11-4 their starter could not even last more than 5 innings.

  119. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    So I just got home from watching a really cute play. I DVRd the Sux game in case there was anything I wanted to play over and over and over again. I’m thinking from what I heard on the way home it may have been the 6th inning? I am also curious to know how DiceK did or didn’t do. Anyone?

    WEEI has been talking about how four of the veterans on the

  120. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Dice-K looked okay, nothing special, through the first 4 or 5 innings, though having to throw 90 pitches in that span.

    He then imploded.

  121. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    CR9 – ABSOUTELY! Tonight? I don’t know when they’re playing.

    WEEI was talking about how four veterans on the Sux are totally unhappy campers and how it is very obvious in the clubhouse. Lowell, Big Fatso, Wakefield, and Varitek. They said it’s not a good thing.

    Doesn’t sound look good planning on the part of the Sux management.

    :D

  122. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Sore shoulder. DL stint with rehab starts. There’s got to be a point where enough is enough. It might not be now, but I think it’ll be sooner than later.
    ======================================
    I see that happening too, m.
    I think we will know enough by the end of May.

  123. Allan May 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    mick,

    Girardi is already fed up with NJ, you can tell. Javy might not be too far behind. He is killing the bullpen and he is forcing this struggling offense to score 7-8 runs to win a game.

    I’d kill for a start like he had against the Angels at home, that would demonstrate progress.

  124. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Ah, DiceK implosion. Such a pleasant thought!

    I’m happy the Orioles had a 7 run lead, now down to 5. I’m confident that the Sux won’t be able to catch up and the Orioles may not be done scoring!!

  125. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Tonight. It’s halftime right now. It’s on TNT.

    Sox back within 11-6 with a 2 out 2 run single.

  126. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    Wow. KC-Rays 2-2, top of the 11th. I want want to switch back and forth!

  127. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    The Sox are right back in it.

    Shatner decided to leave in Hendrickson.

    Wonder how much longer they’ll leave him in there.

    Thanks Henrickson!

  128. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Betsy,

    I live in Westchester, NY and now in AZ for half the year. Old folks get to do things like that. It ‘ain’t’ all bad. I grew up in Manhattan though.

  129. Allan May 1st, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Orioles better not blow this lead. If any pen is capable of doing it, Baltimore’s is.

  130. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    CR9 – I have plenty of negative vibrations to go around for anything boston.

    What will be nicer than having the Sux battle back, only to fall flat.

  131. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Their pen didnt blow any lead against us.

  132. RS May 1st, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    I hope the Sox lose another 1 run game

  133. PA Joe May 1st, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    And the O’s lead is down to 3

    Good job, O’s.

    Game is far from over.

  134. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    I’d kill for a start like he had against the Angels at home, that would demonstrate progress.

    ===========================================
    Allan,
    I was at that game, Javy got booed but he wasn’t all that bad.
    He just doesn’t seem good enough, in a league with a DH and no pitcher batting, to get by.
    He throws a lot of pitches, is not overpowering, not against these lineups, classic NL pitcher, where he will probably get traded back to.

  135. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Not to worry. Castillo will settle things down.

  136. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    The Orioles have Cla Meredith, who is a decent reliever. Id expect to see him in at some point. But who knows with Shatner.

  137. E-C May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    This is so typical. The O’s pen was basically lights out against us. Yet they are about to blow a 8 run lead to the Sox.

  138. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    SAS, lol. One of my sisters lives in Westchester – Ossining. Where in AZ?

  139. MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Not saying it’s going to happen but can you place a pitcher on the DL when they really don’t have a shoulder issue ?

    Couldn’t that create another problem ?

  140. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    What a job by that O’s bullpen with a 7 run lead. Who knew how bad this team was…

  141. RS May 1st, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    What I love is that Clay Buchholz is the only Sox starter off to a good season, but he is the guy that teams will be asking for in any trade for a big bat.

  142. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    MTU

    You can place a player on the DL for any reason.

    The Red Sox have been doing that forever. They make up issues and DL a guy to help out their roster.

  143. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:23 pm

    It’ll be interesting to see what Guillen does here. Pods singled, stole 2nd. Cormier walks mendoza Gordon. And here’s Guillen.

  144. MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    GB-

    Great news about Montero throwing out those runners.

    He’s in a bit of slump though isn’t he ?

  145. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    See that’s what I was talking about. Not to worry!

  146. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    Not saying it’s going to happen but can you place a pitcher on the DL when they really don’t have a shoulder issue ?
    ==================================
    Yes you can. The shoulder (and neck) connect to the head where the problem lies.

  147. RS May 1st, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    8 HRs have been hit in this Red Sox/O’s game

  148. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Betsy…

    Scottsdale, but I do not live in Ossining.

  149. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    “What a job by that O?s bullpen with a 7 run lead. Who knew how bad this team was?”

    Actually a lot of us knew that the Orioles had a problem with its bullpen but had some really good starting pitching and offense, if that’s what you’re asking. And as “bad” as this team is, they are on their way to taking 3 in a row from the Sux.

    Maybe they’re not so bad after all!

  150. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    KC 4 – Rays 2, top of the 11th!!! WOO HOO!!!

  151. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    mission impossible? 6 outs before 3 runs for the Orioles?

  152. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    And that’s a 2 HR game for Ortiz.

  153. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    The O’s always seem to have a good offense…at least against the Yankees. I think Nick Markakis would make a wonderful RF for us.

  154. Dave May 1st, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Who is “Shatner”?

  155. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    Big Fatso just hit a homer. Well, we did say their pen has been a problem.

  156. E-C May 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    And BAL immediately gives back the run they score.

    They better not blow this

  157. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    and we could trade Javy for Markakis in a one for one deal…lol

  158. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    I forgot if your bullpen was part of your team :lol:

    The Red Sox do not look good at all right now. Not the highest standard to hold the Os to.

  159. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Was at the Cano game in Balt and it was great drowning out the “Lets go O’s” cheers with Lets go Yankees. Amazing!

  160. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    “I hope the Sox lose another 1 run game”

    :)

    I’ll be happy at this point to keep a little more distance.

  161. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Nick Markakis. Mmm. Yes. He would be wonderful.

    Dave,

    It’s the O’s manager. It’s common BASEBALL knowledge. ;)

  162. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    While the bullpen is part of your team, they are not your whole team!

    :)

  163. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Let’s just keep a good thought here everyone

  164. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    Cla doing a nice job.

  165. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    “Let?s just keep a good thought here everyone”

    That’s the spirit!

  166. Carl May 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Soria is about to choke this one away.

  167. mick May 1st, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    May the Force be with us.
    Later Yankee people.

  168. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Even if it does not work out, Shatner ought to leave in Meredith for the 9th.

  169. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    AWESOME inning for Cla.

    Three silly outs left. That’s it kids. Three silly outs.

    :)

  170. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Markakis would solve our outfield problems and he knows the AL East.

  171. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    “Soria is about to choke this one away.”

    :(

    Don’t say that.

    I couldn’t find it anywhere on Extra Innings.

  172. Psyluk May 1st, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Good god, the Royals and Orioles are just horrendous. An 11-4 lead and a 4-2 lead in the 11th inning threatening to be choked away? Wow…

  173. Frank & Beans May 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Let me say that I wish Ajax does great things with the Tigers. I hope we sign him in 6 years. That said he is no longer on the Yanks and we cant change the past. Granderson will be great for us.

    All that said I hope the Yankees call up David Winfree He is batting 300. has 2 HR and 12 RBI.

    his highlights are in 2008 He Hit .252 with 19 homers and 87 RBIs in 126 games with Double-A New Britain. … Finished third in Eastern League in RBIs. …

    He looks like a ball player. I saw him play and he seems to know his way around the dimond he reminds me of Shane Spencer but with more pop and more tallent.

  174. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Dearest Joakim Soria-

    You are a pivitol part of Erica’s Avengers. Please do not blow this save. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

    Sinecerely Yours,
    Erica

  175. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I spelt “sincerely” wrong. Oh No!!!!!!!!!

  176. UnKnown May 1st, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I thought Swisher just had a good night in Baltimore, a few days back . How could he of had an 0 for 22 streak? Am I mistaken on my thinking?

  177. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Carl I see what you mean. I have it on MLB.com.

  178. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Dearest Joakin Soria-

    You are a pivitol part of Erica’s Avengers. Please do not blow this save. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

    Sincerely Yours,
    Erica

  179. Frank & Beans May 1st, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    My nephew Manny Del Carmen is pitching. I hope he gives up a run or two.

  180. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    KC’s chances of winning are plummeting. Down to 61% :mad:

  181. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Okay, one away.

  182. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    And now I spelled “Joakim” wrong… this does NOT bode well :cry:

  183. Carl May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    trisha

    I think he will get out of it. He gave up some hard line drives though. And he is using a lot of pitches.

  184. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Is GB7 typing disease contagious????????

    Do I dare try it again?

  185. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    mel, they have one out…

  186. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Up to 78% with Pena’s K.

  187. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Dearest Joakim Soria-

    You are a pivitol part of Erica’s Avengers. Please pitch better than I type and do not blow this save. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

    Sincerely Yours,
    Erica

  188. Carl May 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    “Jerry’s best days are behind him. He should just be quiet.” owned.

  189. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    nailed it ;-)

  190. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 9:24 pm
    GB-

    Great news about Montero throwing out those runners.

    He’s in a bit of slump though isn’t he ?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, it’s the worst slump of his career. Nothing being hit hard. Lot of grounders and strikeouts. His swing is all fouled up.

  191. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Carl, he’s going right after them!

    Erica, maybe the baseball gods would be more impressed if you framed this in terms of the yankees and now yourself!!!

    ;)

  192. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Come on M bring it home

  193. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    Carl, he’s going right after them!

    Erica, maybe the baseball gods would be more impressed if you framed this in terms of the yankees and now yourself!!!

    *************

    I never pretend to be selfless. The baseball gods appreciate honesty!

  194. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    that should have read “not yourself” meaning instead of yourself.

    :)

    Nice job by Soria so far, even if he makes it an adventure!

  195. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Up to 90% with Upton’s K.

  196. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    I think they appreciate both but I would think selflessness (putting team ahead of self) might trump!

    :D

  197. Carl May 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    KC Wins

  198. RS May 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Rays lose!

  199. Frank & Beans May 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Pat Burell never dissapoints.. Thanks for striking out…

  200. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:46 pm
    I think they appreciate both but I would think selflessness (putting team ahead of self) might trump!

    ***************

    Trisha-

    Its a beautiful moment where everyone wins. Lets enjoy it!

  201. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    YES!!!! KC WINS AGAIN!!!!!

    Simon just got called up and has been pitching every night. Jay Johnson got sent down.

  202. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Thank you Joakim Soria!!!!!

  203. Damon enjoy 27....think 28 May 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    Tampa lost against to KC Yankees still 1.5 out., come on Orioles!!

  204. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    It went to 94% on the foul then to 90% on Burrell’s K.

    Imaginary Joba fist pumps all around, guys.

  205. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    They put in Simon who immediately falls behind and walks the first batter.

    You cant pay for the luck that the Sox receive.

    You have to be the dumbest player to come in and immediately walk a guy in the 9th inning, up 3 runs, and get no pitches anywhere near the strike zone.

    And the umpire cheated Seeeemone on the first pitch to Pedroia.

    Why not just leave in Cla Meredith?

    He was actually successful.

    I guess you can help a team managing. If Shatner had a half a brain, he would experiment with Meredith as a closer, as opposed to a goon who cant throw strikes.

  206. JMK aka The Overshare May 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    We won’t miss Grabderson for 2 weeks

  207. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    Erica, I’m enjoying it. You’ll have to excuse me for putting team ahead of self!!!

    Now let’s concentrate on the Sux game unless of course you have nobody playing for either team and therefore could care less.

    J/K!!! Seriously. I’m the one who rooted for your team even when you were my rival, if you remember.

    :) :) :)

  208. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    The Rays lost to the lowly Royals?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  209. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    CR, I’m thinking that Simon is their official closer and they are going to play the game that way.

  210. MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    GB-

    Do you see any specific cause for the slump, or the change in his swing ?

    He has always been so consistent hasn’t he ?

    Could it have something to do with that recent collision ?

  211. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Nice play by Simon covering 1st base and by the 1st baseman!!!

  212. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    AWESOME play by Hughes!!!! YES!!!!

    Come on Simon. Earn another save baby!!!

  213. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    I don’t care if he has to pitch around Pukey.

    And what is this, every time a strike is called they look back at the umpire?

    GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  214. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And Don Orsillo said the Orioles have “AMAZINGLY taken the 1st 2 games of the series!”

    Alright SIMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  215. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    Trisha

    They argue every strike.

    And Orsillo and Remy are no different. All they do is whine about umpires!

  216. m May 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    That’s it. At the end of the day, nothing changes. But too bad about Curtis G. & Javy. Looking for the team to pull together and for players to step it up.

    Go, Hues.

  217. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Orsillo’s comment:

    And the Orioles AMAZINGLY take two games from the (Red Sox) Sux.

    I’m not so amazed. That’s what you get when you underestimate your opponent.

    Okay CR9, as promised I am going right to the Celtics game with my negative vibration self!

  218. Haiku-man May 1st, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Thank you Orioles, until Monday!!

  219. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    M, did you see the link to the interview I posted?

  220. Erica - always OPPC - Sesame Street Mafia and GTLU supporter May 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    trisha – OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
    Erica, I’m enjoying it. You’ll have to excuse me for putting team ahead of self!!!

    Now let’s concentrate on the Sux game unless of course you have nobody playing for either team and therefore could care less.

    ***********

    Excuse me- wanting the Rays to lose for the benefit of the Yankees is implicit. Its always Yankees first. However, the Erica’s Avengers connection needed to be stated.

    And I do not care about the Sox. I do have Dustin Pedroia on my team. Cheering for him in that instance would be wholly inappropriate. I am not selfish

  221. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    LOL @ Hues!!

  222. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    CR9 – Cavs will take this game. (where is it being played?)

  223. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    You don’t want the Cavs winning a championship.

    It gives Lebron more incentive to stay in Cleveland.

  224. Yank1 May 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    As much as Shatner tried to blow this game, the O’s prevailed!

  225. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    LGY

    I cant care about that now. I have to care about the Celtics not winning, first.

    The game is in Cleveland, Trisha.

  226. K-Zone May 1st, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    LGY,

    Exactly. All NYers should root FOR the Celtics.

  227. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    Erica, I was playing with you.

  228. Frank & Beans Still Javi Vasquez fan May 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    The Yankees should let Javi work out what ever he needs to work out. I rather see him stink before the All Star Game then do a great job get selected to All Star game and then suck after.

    Come on Javi you… CAN DO IT>>>> >)

  229. gfd May 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Matzusaka will be berated in beantown. They already wanted him gone before this game!!

  230. TC 223 May 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Celtics are too old to get past the Cavs, Magic, AND Lakers in long series’

    As long as they don’t win a championship, that is all that matters. Let them beat Cleveland. Better for NY if they do so.

  231. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Trisha,

    Don’t vibrate the Celtics into a loss :mad:

  232. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    The closer the Celtics get to a championship, the easier it will be for the referees to hand it to them.

    I really need the Lakers to pull within one of them in total titles.

  233. Frank & Beans Still Javi Vasquez fan May 1st, 2010 at 10:02 pm

    What Time is the fight?

  234. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    You guys are under the impression that the Lakers/Magic would just be playing the Celtics.

    The Celtics have another team on their side, the referees.

  235. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    CR9 -

    trust in my ability to send nothing but negative when it comes to that hapless little peashooter town, beantown!!!

    :D

  236. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Trust me, Trisha.

    Take down the Celtics first. Then we can worry about bad vibrations to the Cavs.

  237. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    I DO TRUST!!!

  238. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    LGY, I root against anything beantown. You want them to win?

  239. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    All that matters is getting Bron Bron to NY. Changes the whole dynamic of basketball in NY for years to come.

    Lose the battle to win the war.

  240. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    I’m confused here. Do you want the Cavs to win, or just the Celts to lose?

    Who do you want to win? Or is it that you want the Cavs to lose eventually so LeBron doesn’t want to stay there?

  241. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    Trisha

    Celts to Lose!

  242. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:06 pm

    The Cavs have to lose and the earlier in the playoffs the Cavs get knocked out the less Lebron will want to stay there.

    Turn of the vibrations!

  243. Sey May 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Celtics already beat the Lakers once. They can do it again.

    Dammit Miami, why didn’t you knock them out this past round?

  244. ken May 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    We need to boo Vazquez’s butt back to Georgia. Terrible move by Cashman. I dont know what he was thinking. The guy clearly is a National League Pitcher who does not have the intestinal fortitude to pitch in NY.

  245. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    LGY, I can never in good faith root for anything beantown. I’m sorry. I am happy to root against the Cavs after this series is over and send such negative vibrations that he will hate his team. I’ll work triple time on it, I promise.

  246. Mike May 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    trisha,

    Most of us are Knicks fans that want LeBron to come here.

    The most likely sceniero for that to occur, would be for them to get knocked out before the finals. That might anger LeBron and will create a better chance he bolts.

    He isn’t winning a title in CLE, marching in a parade, then walking away.

  247. REZ May 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Knicks fans want Lebron’s Hams to come to NY.

    Thus, the Celtics need to knock him out. I feel dirty rooting for a Boston team, but it must be done. Don’t think Boston has enough to outlast them in 7 anyway, but I’ll be rooting for it.

  248. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    I am a Knicks fan, too. But we’ve gotta look at things realistically.

    He either will or wont come. Getting knocked out in the Conf. semis or conf. finals will make little difference.

  249. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Mike, I will do all in my power to make sure the Cavs are knocked out before the finals.

  250. BD (Boston Dave) May 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I’m all for Vazquez and I do think he’ll turn it around.

    That said, I’m going Friday so please skip him in the rotation this time through :)

  251. IT 99 May 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    O’s have won 3 in a row against the Sox. The O’s are lucky if they have 3 wins in a season against them.

    The Angels broke through against them finally, could the O’s be next?

  252. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    I meant to say Cavs won’t win the finals.

  253. Frank & Beans Still Javi Vasquez fan May 1st, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    ken May 1st, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    We need to boo Vazquez’s butt back to Georgia. Terrible move by Cashman. I dont know what he was thinking. The guy clearly is a National League Pitcher who does not have the intestinal fortitude to pitch in NY.
    ___________________________________________________-

    Javi is going to be ok. I bet he turns it around.

    Speaking of bets I almost won with Ice Box

    NOT COOL

  254. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    CR9 and trisha need the Javy treatment.

    BOOOOO!

  255. Jay May 1st, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    CR – I don’t follow hockey much, but I hate Boston

    So tell me, are the Bruins any good? Will they get knocked out soon? I know they caught a break when Philly and Montreal won their series, but are they poised to go far?

  256. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    CR9 and trisha hate NY.

    They are just like Pete Abe putting up a facade on this board. Send them to beantown! :mad:

  257. vtred May 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Melancon is up here to stay

  258. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    I heard that LeBron and CC were awesome friends and he was going to talk LeBron (who wears Yankee caps) into coming to NY to play. Was that just rumor?

  259. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    LGY, that’s a bit of tortured logic there! I root against the Celtics, therefore I hate NY?

    Uh, okay.

    There will not be a day in my life that you catch me rooting for a beantown team friend.

    And I am not from NY and could care less about basketball. I said I will root for the Cavs to lose in the finals. Best I can do. Besides, CR9 asked me first, not that I would have rooted for the Celtics in any case!

  260. Will May 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    I remember Pete always used to inject his Patriots-fandom into his posts around football season.

    I remember he was distraught after they traded Seymore and he wrote “In Bill we trust” on his twitter account LOL

  261. yankswin27 May 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Golson should be called up by next week. According to scouting reports, he has “track runner” speed. He is a true athlete, now if only he can get the bat going in the big leagues.

  262. Yank 97 May 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Well Gardner has graduated from “track star” to “baseball player”, so I guess we have to replace the track star on our roster. Golson would fit that.

  263. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    Jay

    The Bruins have a decent defense, decent goalie, and terrible offense. However, they are coming together at the right time.

    They are getting players back from injury, while facing teams without their best players.

    Buffalo, Vanek. Philly, Laperierre, Gagne, Carter, IF they win this series and Pitt wins, then Pitt without Staal.

    It’s a joke. Essentially, Boston really is not that good, and their goalie is made out to be special although he is not…

    BUt with a Boston team, I am always concerned that the referees will take over when it counts.

  264. Trevor May 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    “I heard that LeBron and CC were awesome friends and he was going to talk LeBron (who wears Yankee caps) into coming to NY to play. Was that just rumor?”

    No it’s true. But there will be other factors in whether LeBron comes or not.

  265. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    I’ll let you guys in on a little secret. I don’t fear much, but I do fear LeBron vs. the Lakers in the Finals.

    He’s a great player, but I hope he doesn’t win a championship in Cleveland. I just want to gag with all LeBron, all the time.

    If LeBron goes to NY and does it, it won’t be as bad. As there’s a soft spot in my heart for the Knicks because of Ewing and Riley.

    But I just want to gag on LeBron/Cleveland (no offense to Phil in Columbus).

  266. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    And yes, they were gifted a huge break when the Caps lost Game 7.

    And if you did not watch, the referees intentionally cheated the Caps in Game 7 for that reason, to help the Bruins.

  267. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Nice hard hit on Rondo!!!

  268. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Wow, Rondo flew like a ragdoll!!!

  269. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Without Granderson hurts, but it’s the pitching that will carry the Yankees during his downtime which is why they have to run Javy around and get some better performances out of their bullpen not named Mo, Joba, Aceves and Mitre. I hope Melancon takes this opportunity and that Girardi uses him instead of letting him rot in the bullpen.

  270. Jay May 1st, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    CR9,

    Are the Pens good enough to beat BOS even without Staal?

  271. UnKnown May 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    I knew that the Stat in this post about Swish was wrong. He had no 0-22 skid. Bombers get the Win tomorrow and win another series, no worries. If Mark and Alex start producing like they should we will be able to weather the Granderson injury.

  272. EA May 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Did the Yankees make a mistake trading Granderson for Jackson?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5154760

  273. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    And it’s not so much that I fear LeBron, as I’m not sure it would be a fair fight. For anyone facing LeBron in the Finals. I guess I’ve been reading CR9 too long. But I think that the league really, really wants LeBron to win it all.

  274. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Jay

    I dont know much about hockey teams aside from my Rangers….

    But yes, the Pens should be good enough to beat the Bruins.

  275. R+ May 1st, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    I think (and would hope) that Robertson and Marte are in the doghouse and they will see what Melancon has. We’ve seen enough of the other two for the time being.

  276. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    m

    LOL

    It’s perfectly reasonable to think that. The leagues are a business. They want what’s best for their business.

    Only thing better for their business (in their eyes) than Lebron winning is the Celtics.

  277. PC Dave May 1st, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    m,

    No doubt. You would hope Kobe gets the calls too.

    LeBron is going to be able to get away with murder even more as he advances. When he is that close to a title, the refs are going to assist him.

  278. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Is there a conspiracy between CR9 and trisha to hurt the Knicks?

    Is David Stern involved?

  279. BD (Boston Dave) May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    AJax has over a .500 BABIP which is ridiculously high.

    he simply cannot sustain even close to that #.

    He will hit under .290 this season, and I’ll take bets from anyone who disagrees.

    That said, he still looks good and I’m sure Detroit is very pleased with him thus far.

    The trade for Granderson was an excellent one, nonetheless.

  280. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    I’m not touching that article with a ten-foot pole; it’s automatically a dumb premise.

    The Yankees SP, IMO, is not in great shape unless Andy pitches like this the whole year – and that’s an iffy proposition. Oh, I think he’ll pitch quite well, but he’s not going to keep this up.

    The Knicks are a pathetic joke of a franchise and why LeBron would want to come here is beyond me.

  281. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    (aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
    GB-

    Do you see any specific cause for the slump, or the change in his swing ?

    He has always been so consistent hasn’t he ?

    Could it have something to do with that recent collision ?

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    I’m no expert, but, just from how he’s always looked and when he was hitting everything earlier this year, the bats looks like he’s holding it higher and back further behind his head so much that the shoulder seems to block out his sight. Without a side by side, I can’t tell. If I can see that and that’s the issue, then Wynegar can see it. This is just bny guess, though. Strangely, he seems to have started slumping the day after he got bulldozed on a play at the plate where he tagged out the runner, a 220 pound veteran catcher to save the game.

  282. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    CR9,

    I don’t think so. LeBronze is more important than the Celtics to the league. Wade got his. The Big 3 for the Celtics got theirs. Kobe got his. But LeBron is the chosen one, right? :P

  283. F7 TD May 1st, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Red Sox and Patriots got knocked out in the 1st round last year… they were actually noncompetitive LOL Sox got swept by the Angels, Pats got blown out by Baltimore.

    Bruins and Celtics are making it a little more gut wrenching. Please get knocked out soon!

  284. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Melancon did not do much to warrant more time last time he was up. I’m not concerned about how much Joe uses him; I just want the pen to right itself. I’m sure Robertson will find himself at some point (I hope that’s soon), but Marte ? I’ve got my doubts now.

  285. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    PC Dave,

    lol. Kobe used to get calls all the time. Now he gets welts, and the refs swallow the whistle. :P

    PJ making it hard, the refs really punished him for his Durant comments.

  286. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    The Knicks are pathetic?

    They had a little bit of a dark period, but they have a good history, are a well run team now, and play in the greatest arena in sports.

  287. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    LGY – whatever you say.

    :)

  288. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    m

    I know that should be the way it is, or better yet, the league could try something called fairness and not trying to gift Lebron or Wade or anybody a title……but that’s never going to happen.

    Unfortunately, people just want to gift Bostonians and Boston teams things. That’s more important than their business and having Lebron win.

    Believe me, I have posed as a Red Sox fan on numerous occasions, only to get handed things that I rightfully did not earn.

  289. Trevor May 1st, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    “The Knicks are a pathetic joke of a franchise and why LeBron would want to come here is beyond me.”

    They’ve been a joke for the last 8 yrs. Otherwise they’re a great franchise.

  290. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    “Melancon did not do much to warrant more time last time he was up. I?m not concerned about how much Joe uses him; I just want the pen to right itself”

    Agree Betsy.

  291. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    m

    Im going for the Lakers to pull within one of the Celts! Im on your side!

  292. Frank & Beans Still Javi Vasquez fan May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    I will say it again and again.. Ok only once again

    Let me say that I wish Ajax does great things with the Tigers. I hope we sign him in 6 years. That said he is no longer on the Yanks and we cant change the past. Granderson will be great for us.

    All that said I hope the Yankees call up David Winfree He is batting 300. has 2 HR and 12 RBI.

    his highlights are in 2008 He Hit .252 with 19 homers and 87 RBIs in 126 games with Double-A New Britain. … Finished third in Eastern League in RBIs. …

    He looks like a ball player. I saw him play and he seems to know his way around the dimond he reminds me of Shane Spencer but with more pop and more tallent.

  293. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  294. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Wow that’s a big arena!

  295. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    For the person calling the Knicks a joke of a franchise….

    The Celtics were a joke of a franchise, until they got gifted Kevin Garnett, by a General Manager who was their former superstar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  296. blake May 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    I hope Granderson gets back soon but also hope he doesn’t rush. That’s a tricky injury and one that can linger and nag for quite some time if allowed to completely resolve.

    I like the move to bring Melancon up.

  297. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    WOOOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  298. MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    GB-

    Thanks for the opinion.

    It’s odd that things started to go south for him right after the collision.

    Well, anyway I hope he gets going again soon.

    Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

    Got an early date with a Canyon.

    Catch you on the rebound. :)

  299. blake May 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    If not allowed I mean.

  300. JK May 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Knicks must sign Bosh then hopefully Wade or Lebron or wait for Carmello & Paul next year

  301. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    I am not much of a basketball or hockey fan anymore, and in good part it is do to the ownership the Knicks and Rangers which isn’t going to change anytime soon…so if I am LaBron I would not come to NY unless the Knicks promise him the support he needs to have a chance of winning.

  302. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    There was the TO that was actually LeBron’s block out of bounds. And the crab “dribble” should’ve been a travel. And the Celtics played sloppy after they built an 11 point lead. Otherwise, the Cavs earned that win.

    The problem with LeBron and the Cavs is that no lead is safe.

    I think melancon will get the first call because the other middle relievers have been so bad. I wonder what’s up with Robertson?

  303. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    Um, that would be me

  304. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    “The Yankees SP, IMO, is not in great shape unless Andy pitches like this the whole year – and that’s an iffy proposition. Oh, I think he’ll pitch quite well, but he’s not going to keep this up.”

    I don’t share your negativity about the starting pitching other than Javy getting turned around.

  305. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    Betsy…

    You asked where in AZ. Have you been there?

  306. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    “I think melancon will get the first call because the other middle relievers have been so bad. I wonder what’s up with Robertson?”

    Poor pitch location.

  307. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    LGY, IMO, they’re pathetic. Obviously they are a great franchise, but they’ve done next to nothing in years. As to whether they are well-run, I’m not a believer, and I don’t like D’Antoni. FA spurned them last year and I would be shocked if they don’t spurn them again this year.

  308. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    m

    LOL @ crab dribble!

    On that note, I’ve seen Rondo take 11 steps before and not get called for traveling. A bit of exaggeration, I know, but Ive practically seen Rondo run from one end of the court to the other without taking a dribble, and not getting called for traveling!!!

    What’s the worst about Boston sports is they all whine about referees/umpires, and their commentators do too, and they dont even realize that their teams are the ones gifted things.

  309. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    SAS, just once when I was 13. We went to a dude rance called Wickenburg (which was later owned by Merv Griffegn) and then to a place in Phoenix called the Point. All I remember about the hotel (the Point) is that it was very hot out and I picked the wrong time to get swimmer’s ear. At 13, it was almost impossible for me to try and keep my head out of the water, lol. I remember we also took a small plane and flew over the Grand Canyon; ever since then, I’ve wanted very much to go back (both to AZ in general and the Grand Canyon).

  310. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Oh brother

    Merv Griffen……..Wickenberg.

  311. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Crawdaddy,

    One bad outing does not make a season. Also, he held it to the 4 runs. As I recall, the Yankees won yesterday.

  312. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Trevor, I didn’t think I had to explain that..that’s obviously what I meant.

  313. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Got an early date with a Canyon.

    ———————————————————————————————————————-

    Grand or Christy?

  314. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Why are Knicks fans, or New Yorkers calling the Knicks a pathetic franchise?????

    Obviously, Jim Dolan is a D BAG…..

    BUT THE CELTICS WERE NOTHINGS UNTIL THEY GOT GIFTED GARNETT.

    Why not be angry that we are not gifted players by our former players/current GMs.

  315. SJ44 May 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    How is the starting pitching not in great shape?

    Four if the five starters have been great this year.

    Don’t overreact to one loss.

    NO rotation has five guys pitching great at the same time.

    This is the best rotation the Yankees have had in ten years, even with Vasquez struggling.

  316. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    Thanks TRISHA for your help 2NITE!!!!!!!

  317. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Craw, it’s not negativity, it’s being realistic. CC is great. AJ is good, maybe even really good. Andy is good, but he’s not going to pitch to a 2.12 ERA this year. Phil is #23 and I expect him to have his ups and downs. We need a 4th starter and, IMO, badly.

  318. Patrick May 1st, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    It might sound crazy but I’m still not worried about Javy. He’s just too good to not figure it out.

    Granderson going down sucks but this is why cash got an everyday guy like winn. Let’s see what he can do, at least Thames will be there against lefties. I’ll never like Thames in the field but he’s clearly a net plus when a lefty is starting

  319. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    “Crawdaddy,

    One bad outing does not make a season. Also, he held it to the 4 runs. As I recall, the Yankees won yesterday.”

    Don’t tell me, tell Betsy, she’s the one that thinks our starting pitching isn’t in good shape.

  320. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    SJ, I really don’t want to argue. I am not overreacting to one loss. Believe it or not, not all my comments come from some overemotional side of me. Obviously I don’t share your view, but please explain to me how the pitching is in really good shape without a #4 starter.

  321. jz166 May 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    At least today Mets lost, Redsox lost, Rays lost and Celtics lost!

    not that bad at all.

  322. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    jz

    Agreed. Except for the injury to Grandy.

  323. z May 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    “It might sound crazy but I’m still not worried about Javy.”

    I don’t think it’s crazy.

    I think it’s phucking nuts!

  324. m May 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Patrick,

    Would you try to play Winn everyday to play defense and get his bat going? And then sit NJ for Thames against lefties? Or would you platoon Winn/Thames? Jorge would also DH on his off days.

    And I’m not trying to replace Javy, but who would be the best candidate? I’m kind of thinking Sergio. I think he’ll be a ton better than he was last season coming off TJS.

  325. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Hey Craw, if you want to think that Andy is going to pitch to a 2 ERA and that Phil will have a perfectly smooth year with absolutely zero bumps in the road, to the point where we don’t need a 4 starter, that’s your prerogative. If that is not what you are implying, then I’m sorry, you need to explain why we are in particuarly good shape without a decent #4.

  326. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    “Craw, it’s not negativity, it’s being realistic. CC is great. AJ is good, maybe even really good. Andy is good, but he’s not going to pitch to a 2.12 ERA this year. Phil is #23 and I expect him to have his ups and downs. We need a 4th starter and, IMO, badly.”

    Whatever! I’m just sick of the Debbie Downer muses.

  327. MTU(aka GBURL) May 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    GB-

    Unfortunately, it is neither the Grand nor Christy.

    My wife is the jealous type and I like living. ;)

  328. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    Patrick, I would play Winn as well -everyday. I don’t want to see Thames in the OF.

  329. SJ44 May 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Betsy,

    you are overeacting again. Phil Hughes is more than good enough to win games for this team regardless of his age.

    EVERY pitcher has ups and downs.

    Andy doesn’t have to pitch to a 2.12 ERA to be very effective. The guy is a borderline HOF pitcher.

    Pretty tough to call the SP shaky when you roll out CC, AJ, Hughes and Pettitte four out of five days.

    Most teams would KILL to have such a “shaky” pitching staff.

  330. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    If the bullpen had done their usual job like they did after May of last year or just decent production from two of the 5 slumping bats, NYY would have won 6 of the 8 games they lost. They’ve only been blown out of two games. They are close to getting on a roll. Three of the slumping bats had multiple hit games, today.

  331. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    Well, too bad, Craw because I’m tired of your pollyanna posts.

    SJ tells me to stop overreacting to one loss (which I’m not), but then he proceeds to say that this is the best rotation in ten years based on 3 starts. Why am I overreacting because I’m being realistic, but you guys aren’t? ALL I said was that Andy wasn’t going to pitch to a 2 ERA. Excuse me, but what is wrong with that? Even CC won’t pitch to a 2 ERA.

  332. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    Jim Palmer said that any win the Orioles get over the Red Sox this year, would be a game in which the “Red Sox lost or gave away” because the O’s are a “terrible team”

    Hmm…Wonder what Palmer thinks after 2 more victories over them.

  333. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    “Hey Craw, if you want to think that Andy is going to pitch to a 2 ERA and that Phil will have a perfectly smooth year with absolutely zero bumps in the road, to the point where we don’t need a 4 starter, that’s your prerogative. If that is not what you are implying, then I’m sorry, you need to explain why we are in particuarly good shape without a decent #4.”

    Andy doesn’t have to pitch to a 2 ERA nor does Hughes have to be consistently good for our starting pitching to be fine. Also, I’m not implying, I’m saying our starting pitching will be as good if not better than most contenders.

  334. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Betsy,

    The video was giving me problems (fits & starts), but it finally played all the way through.

    Phil’s very relaxed. I better watch out for Kim, that cougar. :P

  335. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Betsy…

    I haven’t been to the Grand Canyon yet because it is so cold there all winter. I do want to go though. I am going up to Wickenburg too. I hear it is neat….not to a dude ranch however…lol.
    Getting swimmer’s ear in the summer time in Phoenix was not too smart. They talk about the dry heat, and it is true that 90 degrees there doesn’t feel like 90 in NY, but 110 is hot even if it is dry heat. We have now made a number of friends who live there year round and they love it. It is not where I would choose to take a summer vacation.

    When we left the desert was in bloom, and all I can say is that it was breathtaking. There was a lot of rain for AZ this winter which evidently made it even more glorious. I was sorry to leave…but glad to see my family this week.

  336. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Betsy,

    That’s okay. Craw doesn’t like me either.

  337. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    CR9 – my absolute pleasure!

    :)

  338. SJ44 May 1st, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    I’ll explain it to you easily.

    Name me a team in baseball that has five starters pitching great at the same time.

    Show me a team that CLEARLY has four starters throwing the ball better than CC, AJ, Andy and Hughes right now.

    Their starters are VERY GOOD and not shaky at all.

    In fact, it’s the strength of the team right now and that’s with Vazquez struggling.

  339. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    “Well, too bad, Craw because I’m tired of your pollyanna posts.”

    I’ve never been accuse of being pollyanna with my posts, but you can’t say the same thing about not being negative with your posts.

  340. pistol pete May 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Cashman must be feeling great tonight. Vazquez is 1 and 3 with a 10 run era, he cost the Yankees 11.5m plus Melky and a stud live arm single a pitcher, he signed Johnson instead of Matsui or Damon for $5.5m, Johnson is hitting .150 with no power and no speed and both Matsui and Damon for similiar money are off to great starts, he straded for Granderson who’s hitting 230, can’t hit leftys and is on the dl and picked up $5.5m this year for AJax who’s hitting 364 coming into today plus Ian Kennedy and Phil Coke who’s pitching better than either of the Yankee leftys in the bullpen. Not to worry, he signed randy Winn to fill in for Granderson now that he’s hurt, Winn’s off to great start this year with 1 hit in April and looks completely overmatched and washed up. Cashman has a flexibility no GM in baseball has in that no matter how poorly his moves work out the core team is so good they will be there at year end with some trade moves at the deadline.

  341. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    M…just found that funny remark about Nick in SF…lol

  342. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    “LGY, IMO, they’re pathetic. Obviously they are a great franchise, but they’ve done next to nothing in years”

    Pretty high standards. Every franchise goes through losing periods. Even the Yankees have had their fair share of doing next to nothing in years. That does not make them pathetic.

    It is what is part of being a fan. Being there for the tough and the good times.

  343. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    Serenity now……..

    I am not overreacting to one loss; I couldn’t care less about the loss today as I’m still upset about Granderson.

    SJ, you need to point out to me where I said that Phil wasn’t going to win games this year. You’re talking to one of his biggest fans, someone who has shown faith in him even when he was at his worst, even when he got shellacked in Baltimore last year. All I said was that he was going to have ups and downs. You haven’t said the same thing about young pitchers even as recently as in his most recent start? You wanted him out of the game early and said that this is what you deal with when you are trying to develop young pitchers.

    I also never ever said that Andy had to pitch to a 2 ERA to be effective; I just said that he wasn’t going to pitch this well the rest of the year. I also said more than once that he’s going to be very good.

    Most people on this board spent last year hacking AJ to pieces about what an inconsistent, mediocre pitcher he was. I have never thought that, but I guess they are convinced now, right?

  344. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    SAS,

    lol. I was kind of worried. I took your silence as a sign of guilt. :oops:

  345. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    M, lol

    I’m fine with Craw. I know him from another board and we’re on good terms; we’re just having a tiff that will blow over.

    I think Kim wants to adopt Phil, lol.

  346. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    “Betsy,

    That’s okay. Craw doesn’t like me either.”

    Who are you for me to bother with not liking you?

  347. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    NYYs have the 3rd or 4th best ERAs in the league and only allowed 3 unearned runs, and that’s counting Vazquez’ bad ERA and 4 from the bullpen (Robertson, Marte, Park and Aceves…until today). that’s how solid the pitching has been.

  348. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    lol, Crawdaddy.

    I don’t know what you just said.

    I was making a joke because you got quite heated with me and said something not so nice after the Alex/Braden thing.

  349. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    The health of our starting pitching is the only thing I worry about this season and every baseball season.

  350. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    SAS, I love horseback riding, so the dude ranch thing was a dream for me. I went to another one a few years ago in Colorado – oh, that really is God’s country.

    No, it was not smart of me to get swimmer’s ear, lol. One summer, we spent some weeks in Texas with friends of our family and THAT was hard – hot and humid. Most would take the dry heat over the H&H (so would I), but then I wouldn’t particularly want to deal with 110 degree weather either, lol.

    Until I go back to the Grand Canyon, the Brady Bunch episode where they go there will have to suffice, lol. I don’t think I will be taking any mule trains down, though.

  351. SJ44 May 1st, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Betsy,

    I’m saying the Yankees have one of the best 2-3 starting staffs in the league even with Vazquez struggling.

    They aren’t only not shaky, it’s the backbone of the team.

    That’s why they have the second best record in the league and why they have won 6 of their first 7 series so far this year.

    You don’t do that if your starters are shaky.

    As bad as Vazquez has been, Wang, and the bullpen for that matter, was worse and they survived.

    The starters are actually better this year.

    Especiall since CC didn’t really hit his stride last year until July.

  352. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    LGY, maybe I’m just frustrated with them. It’s a great franchise and they’ve fallen, as it were, into disrepair. I’m not sure how I feel about Walsh, but I don’t like D’Antoni. Not only isn’t he a good defensive coach, but he’s had problems with too many players. The point is, I don’t see why Lebron would want to come here.

  353. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Betsy,

    Remember when everyone was raving about Boston’s staff? There’s a lot of crickets when it comes to that now.

  354. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:12 pm

    The sign of a good pitching staff is not letting scores get out of hand, especially after an error extends an inning. This team has done that better than any other. They’re either at the botton or 2nd from last in homers allowed, hits allowed or runs allowed.

  355. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    m

    Speaking of their staff, CB or SJ was talking once about Lackey’s arm concerns being the reason the Angels just let him walk….

    And the Sox just threw him out there for 120 pitches yesterday.

  356. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    The Knicks aren’t a pathetic franchise, but they have been pathetic for the last few years. But part of that is setting themselves up to make a run at LeBron. Personally, I think it would be awesome if LeBron went to New York. They seem like a perfect fit.

  357. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    M, I think Boston’s staff is terrific……….

  358. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    If the Knicks get Lebron and another top notch FA they are basically instantly contenders.

    With only 5 guys on the court it is really not that hard to completely rewrite the ship in one offseason in the NBA. Look at what Boston did a few years ago.

    The thing that will hopefully pull Lebron here is the draw of the NY stage, playing in the Garden, and just the overall lifestyle of living in NY. Lebron is too big for Cleveland.

  359. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    To ligthen up the discussion, anybody else getting tired of those Kim Jones inteviews in the 2nd inning out in the stands or camera locations?

  360. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    :crickets:

  361. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    SJ, I am talking about the entire year, not 3 starts. Obviously we have nothing to complain about with how our 1,2,3 and 5 starters are pitching right now. I would also appreciate it if you wouldn’t assume I’m overreacting every time you disagree with me. I think we can have a civil if not pleasant conversation without going that route.

  362. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    I think our starting pitching is superlative. I don’t think there’s another team that can come anywhere near our starting 4 (the 4 minus Javy). 4 out of 5 will easily carry you through a season. If we can get the 5th on track, it’s almost dizzying!

  363. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    With Granderson out for awhile, we’re about to find out just how much Gardner has learned and matured in the last year and whether he can maintain what he’s doing.

  364. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    M, I don’t see why anyone would want to come to the Knicks; I don’t think personally that their history is good enough to sell it. They made stupid trades and have no 1st round draft pick for the next year or so. I believe they passed on Brendan Jennings (is that his name? Sorry, I probably misspelled it) and went for Jordan Hill instead. I’m not knocking Hill, but clearly that was a bad pick. Donnie Walsh’s glory days are way behind him.

  365. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    All I know is that the clip I saw of the Joe Girardi show where they were talking about Phil Hughes?

    All I know is that her skirt was too short, and the view was not pretty. Stockings, longer skirt, or pants. Something, anything else, please.

  366. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Hard to complain about the starters that have 3 with ERAs well under 3 and another just over 3. ERAs aren’t the best judge, but, they just aren’t allowing many base runners, either.

  367. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    LGY, the Garden has been dead for a long time…Look, I hope he signs here, but I would be absolutely staggered if he did. It would be akin to me finding out the Yankees traded for Clemens. I was in my car then and had just pulled into a parking lot; I was stunned and it was absolutely surreal. That’s how I would feel if Lebron signed.

  368. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    GB, I think you understand me more than most. You know I am not complaining about how the starters have pitched and I think if people would read my post instead of assuming a lot of things, they would see that.

  369. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm

    I don’t think Betsy’s complaining so much as projecting. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    But I can’t be worried about something until it happens. This is baseball. “You never know. Baseball’s funny that way.” :P

  370. Trevor May 1st, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    D’Antoni was brought here to help recruit LeBron. Supposedly they have a great relationship.

    Bosh
    LeBron
    Gallanari
    Chandler
    Douglas

    Would be good. They play defense too.

  371. Patrick May 1st, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    m,

    I would platoon Thames and Winn in LF. Winn is stronger from the left side anyways. I think we need Johnson to get going, especially with Granderson out, and he has no negative splits against lefties.

    It will be painful watching Thames in LF but his bat is too valuable vs lefties.

    And about the starting pitching. I think you’d have to be blind to not see that the strength of this team thus far has been starting pitching. Most of the games the Yanks have won were due to great performances by Sabathia, Pettitte, Burnett and Hughes. The offense has been okay, the bullpen inconsistent. The only reason the Yanks have got off to this great start has been the starting pitchers. There is no way you can convince me they are “shaky” right now.

    Of course we all know these guys, except maybe CC, are not going to pitch this way all year long. But do you REALLY think Vazquez is going to pitch to a 9 ERA for the whole year? It’s just the way a season goes, guys get hot, others get cold. Pettitte might go through a bad streak but Javy will pick it up. The starting pitching on this team is stellar and will be what carries this team.

  372. CRAWDADDY (Boycott ESPN-NY) May 1st, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    “GB, I think you understand me more than most. You know I am not complaining about how the starters have pitched and I think if people would read my post instead of assuming a lot of things, they would see that.”

    Oh, I understand you alright.

  373. LGY May 1st, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    The Garden has been dead b/c the Knicks have been abysmal. If they sign Lebron that place is going to be a packed house and rocking every game.

  374. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Knicks have a decent core team.

    Would have even better if we had drafted Brandon Jennings this year,
    gotten rid of Jared Jeffries last year when we could have, without having to give up Hill and another draft pick,
    or traded up a spot to get Stephen Curry.

    ____

    Adrian Gonzalez just acted like a scumbag while getting thrown out of a game, so I think he is the perfect fit for the Sox!

  375. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:28 pm

    The word “complaing” might have been the wrong word to use, but, the issues aren’t really on the starters or even most of the bullpen. The issue is with having just 4 bats trying to carry the load. There are parts of starters, bullpen and offense not playing up to their capabilities and they still have the 2nd best record in baseball. That’s impressive.

  376. Triple short of a Cycle May 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Funniest comment of the day on Friday from Joe Beningo.

    He said Mike Pelfrey was better then Halladay. I love how people were billing that matchup like it was gibson vs kofax

  377. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    M, that’s correct and frankly I was very, very clear about that…

  378. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Patrick,

    Okay, I’ll trust you. But against lefties I would DH Thames. GI Joe is subtly sending a message to NJ.

    As for Bosh, the nerve! He twittered, “Should I stay or should I go?” I would say, “Go!”

  379. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    The word ***”complaining”***

  380. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Patrick, you couldn’t have read my posts because not once did I say the pitching was shaky NOW. If that’s what you and others have gotten out of my posts, then there’s really nothing I can say

  381. Patrick May 1st, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    The combination of Thames/Johnson is far more valuable than Winn/Thames. Even taking into account defense. Nick is not a mediocre hitter. He’s very very good and he will snap out of this slump.

  382. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    Triple, there’s no way Joe could have said that. Pelfrey better than Halladay?

  383. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    Betsy,

    “Not that I’m complaining” and “Not nitpicking, but…” are the new “no offense…”

  384. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    LOL M……..

  385. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    With all of the problems Philadelphia has with their rotation, it really makes no sense to have Halladay throw 115-120 pitches every start. Perhaps cut him back on the innings or pitches with big leads and pitch him on short rest once or twice a month until they fix the rotation.

  386. Triple short of a Cycle May 1st, 2010 at 11:35 pm

    Betsy,

    He then corrected himself and said up to this point.

    Joe and Evan led off with the Mets on Friday even though they didn’t play the night before and Cano had hit 2 homers. I never thought a team like the Yanks would be delegated to NJ Net or NY Islander status on a NY sports talk radio station

  387. Frank & Beans Still Javi Vasquez fan May 1st, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    watch The fight

    http://atdhe.net/16166/watch-f.....ane-mosley

  388. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    There’s a scary sight for Brewer fans. Trevor Hoffman is warming up to close the game.

  389. joeman May 1st, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    Javy…isn’t turning this around….but the Keys still got the better of the deal

  390. Triple short of a Cycle May 1st, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    GreenBeret7,

    I agree but I feel like they did the same thing with Cliff Lee last year when they got him. Must be from the Dusty Baker school of how to ruin pitchers careers

  391. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    About the Sux starting rotation – at least to date, 11 and 13 isn’t exactly a rousing endorsement of their rotation.

    They are definitely a question mark. Time will tell whether they have the ability to right the ship.

    Beckett – 7.22
    Lackey – 4.50
    Bucholz – 2.19
    Lester – 4.71
    Wakefield – 6.59
    Matsuzaka – 11.57

    ___________________________

    Yankee Rotation – 15-8

    Andy – 2.12
    AJ – 2.43
    CC – 3.12
    Phil – 2.00
    Javy – 9.78

  392. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Triple, that is so ridiculous, lol….I needed the laugh, thanks!

  393. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    The 2010 Orioles have done more than I ever expected!!

    I hoped for only a 1-17 record versus the Sox this year! That would have been outstanding for me!

    I owe apologies to the 2010 Orioles!

    And to think, the only 2 games the Sox won, were games given away by the Orioles!

    The Sox couldnt even manage to win 1 game against the Orioles by their own doing.

  394. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    I frankly cannot see how anybody with a straight face could call the Sux starting rotation terrific, unless that was meant to be funny.

    If their starting rotation is terrific, what is the Yankees? Worrisome?

    I guess I’m not understanding at all. I am willing to go back and read and see what I am missing.

    I can say that I personally have no trepidation whatsoever with the Yankees starting 4 (4 minus Javy) being able to carry the Yankees. They are all superlative pitchers.

  395. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 1st, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    No, it was not meant to be funny, Trisha.

  396. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    It’s not so much about ruining a pitching career as it is about milking an extra start or two every few weeks out of a pitcher that’s as close to a guarantee as you’ll find. over the course of a year, that could be 6 starts and 5 wins in a close race.

  397. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    GB…

    Philly had good pitchers last year. Were they overrated or just going through bad times at the same time like our hitters have been doing? Is the Mets pitching staff so good and healthy or just going through a good period?

    I know that everything bad that could happen to a team happened to the Mets last year, but their turnaround especially with their pitching seems comparable to the Phillies or the Sox in reverse.

  398. trisha - OPPC member who sees, hears, and knows all. 28 is on its way!!!!! May 1st, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    Well I learned long ago that the only life I can control is my own. I have total faith in the Yankees, and I have learned to trust my instincts when it comes to the Yankees. I also have lots of questions about this year’s Sux team and little faith that they will turn things around to the point that they could possibly beat either the Yankees or the Rays when all is said and done.

    With that I will take all the good out of the day in terms of other teams’ wins and defeats and have a good night’s sleep.

    Night all!

  399. m May 1st, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    CC (3-1)
    AJ (3-0)
    Andy (3-0)
    Vazquez (1-3)
    Hughes (2-0)

    The Yankees rotation is actually 12-4. Could someone link a site that has splits for the starters/rotation ERA? I know the team ranks 3rd in the AL, but I don’t want to calculate the starters by hand.

  400. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:52 pm

    SAS, the Phillies had good pitchers, but, just couldn’t keep them healthy. It’s the same problem this year, and an unhealthy bullpen besides. they also lost Myers.

  401. CR9 May 1st, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Niters TRISHA!!!!!

  402. SAS from Joplin, MO May 1st, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    GB…

    Did we go by Bobby Murcer’s hometown today today too?

  403. GreenBeret7 May 1st, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    I’m guessing that Phillip Aumonte from AA could get a call by mid-June if this keeps up. They have no starters at AAA except mid-30s recycled starters and not doing that well.

  404. m May 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 am

    Yankees rotation ERA: 3.67
    Yankees rotation (without JV): 2.48

    Keep it up, please. :)

  405. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 am

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....8;type=std

    Does this help? Phil doesn’t qualify…..

  406. pistol pete May 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 am

    Damon’s hitting 344 and Detroit is 15 and 10. The guys a winner. And don’t tell me it’s early and I’m jumping on the bandwagon, I said it all winter the yankees need Damon. He’s a great clubhouse guy, consistant, not a head case slumping type guy, can handle pressure, can handle NY, can hit leftys, is proven in the playoffs and should be on the Yankees, PERIOD.

  407. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 am

    You came pretty close, SAS. He lived in Oklahoma City. You drove through OK City.

  408. m May 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Betsy,

    It would. But it’s not current, current. Doesn’t include JV stats from today.

    I did it by hand, and the staff has been stellar so far. It’s been surreal. Hopefully they don’t fall back to earth any time soon. :)

  409. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 am

    SAS, Murcer’s memorial services were held 29 years to the day of Thurman Munson’s. Mrs Munson was at the services.

  410. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:09 am

    We went right through OKC. It is a big city today as is Tulsa. I wonder if they will get a baseball team. The Florida teams might do well in OKC and Memphis or something like those 2 cities.

  411. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 2nd, 2010 at 12:14 am

    Hopefully not, M!

  412. miggs- GTLU Reigning Champion May 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Saying the Sox rotation is “terrific” and the Yankees is in trouble is one of the most uneducated, paranoid, short-sighted comments anyone could possibly make.

    For someone who spends their entire life reading and posting on blogs you would think you would have some clue.

    But you don’t.

  413. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 am

    GB

    I think I knew that because when Bobby died last year, there was a lot of talk and articles about Bobby and Thurman. I cried when Munson died.

    When Lidle crashed into the building on 72 St. and the River…my son and daughter-in-law lived in the building next door. They didn’t make it clear immediately which building it was. They were at work so I knew they were okay but still…..

  414. Giuseppe Franco May 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 am

    The Red Sox rotation has a chance to be “terrific” but they’ve been anything but since Opening Day.

    The Yanks have one of the top 3 rotations in the league with or without Vazquez struggling.

  415. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:23 am

    Miggs

    You tell it like it is !!!!

  416. CR9 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 am

    miggs

    Doreen’s not here right now! Whew!!

    We clearly have the hotter Starting Pitching Staff!!! CC beats Lester. AJ beats Beckett. Pettitte (anybody beats Lackey), Javier beats Wake/Dice, and Phil easily hammers Buchholz!!!!!!

  417. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 am

    SAS, I can’t imagine either OK City or Tulsa ever getting a ML team. Both cities have very successful monor league yeams (Murcer was a majority owner of the OK City team for years). They’re in an area where St. Louis, KC and the Texas Rangers are within driving distance.

  418. CR9 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Niters ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Off 2 dream of Jeeties!!!!!!

  419. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:28 am

    ***minor league teams***

  420. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Mel, here’s the bullpen rankings along with individual. I’ll post the starters next.

    http://www.baseball-reference......hing.shtml

  421. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 am

    GB…

    I wrote a whole paragraph about why I was write, but frankly, I don’t care that much…lol

  422. m May 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 am

    GB7,

    Thanks. If I’m reading that correctly, our bullpen’s pitching to 3.59 runs/game?

  423. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Here’s the starters.

    http://www.baseball-reference......hing.shtml

  424. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Mel, if you poke around on that site, you can find all sorts of stuff.

  425. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 am

    SAS, so you’re agreeing that I’m paranoid and uneducated? Very nice.

    GF, Beckett is not going to be this bad; Lester is excellent and Lackey is very good. Buchholz has been very good as well.

  426. 'My heart beats when they win, and it stops beating when they lose.' May 2nd, 2010 at 12:45 am

    I didn’t realize this any sooner, however Phil is averaging 3 hits per 9 innings. The kid has been tremendous so far this season. His walks are pretty high, but even so 6 hits while pitching 18 innings, is great. Maybe the youngster can teach Javy something. :p

  427. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 am

    GB…

    that should have been “why I was right”

    Good night all. Have good ones. and may tomorrow be a winner for the Yankees.

  428. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Betsy…

    I haven’t the remotest idea what you are talking about. I never have said one unkind word about you since I started on here.

    Please before I turn this off tell me what I was agreeing about….I am very upset

  429. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Other than NYYs losing today, it was as good as it gets. They only lost ground to Baltimore in the Division and no real ground to the rest of the division leaders as far as best record in baseball.

  430. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 2nd, 2010 at 12:56 am

    SAS, your post replying to Miggs immediately followed his rant against me, so I assumed you were agreeing with him. If not, then I apologize.

  431. CR9 May 2nd, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Betsy

    You are just Andy, oops, I mean Dandy!! You’re not paranoid. You’re just concerned about our team and respectful of our opposition!

    Now, there’s only one person who I can think of that IS paranoid….. :P

  432. Giuseppe Franco May 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Betsy,

    As I said, they have a chance to be terrific but they’ve been far short of that thus far.

    This entire ordeal started when you wrote that the Yankee rotation isn’t all that great. Well, I’d beg to differ.

    This team played extremely well despite a really tough April and they did it because the starting pitching really stepped up outside of Vazquez.

    This team is 14-4 in games started by anyone but Vazquez. As Mel pointed out, they’ve accumulated a 2.48 ERA in non-Vazquez starts. That’s pretty damn impressive. No team is going to have all five starters rolling at the same time.

    Vazquez will turn it around sooner or later but the rest of the staff has really done a damn good job so far – not only in limiting runs but logging a lot of innings.

    I think people are just taken aback by your comments regarding the Yankee rotation (negatively way) and Red Sox (positively) rotation when it’s been the Yankee rotation that has outperformed the Red Sox rotation by a lot.

    Does that mean the Sox rotation can’t be great? Of course not. But one of these two teams has a rotation that has been getting it done and the other hasn’t.

  433. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Either Vazquez is hurt or he has completely lost. Either way, they can’t keep rolling him out there if he isn’t competitive.

  434. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 1:05 am

    *is completely lost*

  435. SAS from Joplin, MO May 2nd, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Betsy….

    I went back the next blog I wrote following Miggs, who I don’t know, was about Murcer, etc.

    Later on I said to Miggs…you really tell it like it is…meaning the mean-spirited way he/she wrote. I had no idea in this world who he/she was speaking of. I even thought it could be me because it didn’t follow an entry close to the tirade.

    If I want to say something to you, I will say it directly even if it is critical. I don’t always agree with you but it isn’t worth making a production about. You have met the real me…so no further worries between us OK…OK

    Apology accepted.

  436. Betsy - Hughes rules (pleading the Fifth) May 2nd, 2010 at 1:21 am

    GF, the Sox rotation has not been good, but they are still a very good staff. Lester is excellent and has already started to turn the corner. Beckett is going to turn it around and he’s very good. Lackey is very good and Buchholz has pitched very well.

    I never once said the Yankees SP had not pitched well (outside of Javy). CC is great. AJ will be good/very good (though I find it funny that I am one of the few who has had faith in AJ throughout the last year or so, while most of the posters here have absolutely killed him. They started to do so when he struggled in Anaheim……..what, now they think he’s great?). Andy will be good/very good; all I said was that he’s not going to pitch like this all year. We have no #4. What is up with people and Phil Hughes? I have never ever doubted he’d be a stud, but he’s 23. I expect him to have his ups and downs; it doesn’t mean I expect him to be bad or to have an 8 ERA. The way people are talking, it’s like after 3 starts they now expect him to go out and be very good most of the time (this after a ST during which we were told to have patience with him).

    If people are taken aback, perhaps they should read my posts. I do not think they did.

  437. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 am

    The starting pitching is fine, or better than that. The OF is the only concern, maybe DH too.

  438. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 1:25 am

    Actually, the pen too.

    But given the payroll advantage, the Yankees can overcome some suboptimal developments.

  439. pistol pete May 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Let’s stop tap dancing around, Vasquez has stunk, Granderson has stunk and is now on the dl, Johnson has stunk and is hurt off and on, Winn has stunk, all new players. Their salaries for this yr are 25m. We gave up Melky, Kennedy, A jackson, Coke and used the money from Damon and Matsui to sign these guys. For the Yankees and Cashman’s sake I hope they get going.

  440. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 1:45 am

    What irony in the Tigers/Angels game. In what could be the only runner that Johnny Damon could throw out, he did. He threw Hideki Matsui at the plate to keep the score tied at 2-2 in the 6th inning. Matsui says he’ll never talk to Damon again for showing him up. Damon says that Matsui is his best friend for making it seem like he (Damon) has a a howitzer strapped to his shoulder.

  441. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 1:56 am

    Granderson hasn’t stunk, he’s underperformed. He has been very good defensively, and gotten some big hits, especially the HR v. Papelbon, which shouldn’t be overlooked.

    For all NJ’s hitting failures, getting on base is important, and he has done that. He has to do better, but again, that shouldn’t be overlooked.

    The problem is Vazquez. You can’t overcome a horrible start very often.

    I wanted Damon back, but his contractual demands from the Yankees were unreasonable.

  442. Hot and Cold May 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 am

    The groin pull is a biatch. There goes the Sox series. The real issue is picking former Yankees players they let go for sucking and picking them back up again. Whats up with that Cashman?

  443. tampayank May 2nd, 2010 at 2:08 am

    God bless NYPD and FDNY, avoiding a potentially tragic event

  444. Rich in NJ May 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 am

    Actually, “an alert t-shirt vendor who is a Vietnam Veteran” alerted the police, according to Bloomberg.

    That’s usually what prevents these things, good citizens.

  445. yank 57' May 2nd, 2010 at 3:38 am

    I do not care to see a platoon of Winn and Thames in LF !!!

    At least Thames can hit LH pitchers, winn has shown nothing this spring or early on in the season. Winfree or Golson have to get a shot!

  446. GC May 2nd, 2010 at 3:50 am

    I’m not particularly sure why everyone is making such a big deal out of this. Sure Vazquez has been bad, but this is absolutely a game the Yankees should have won. Girardi for the third time this season single handedly altered the course of a game negatively with mind-bogglingly bad managing. Right now he doesn’t have a clue and he didn’t have a clue in last year’s postseason either- his failures strategically are being masked by the success of his team and his own success within the clubhouse.

    Vazquez has made 5 starts. 3 of them have been real bad, 2 of them okay. He has not been nearly bad enough to pull from the rotation yet especially when the Yankees have very little to lose. They have far more to gain from sticking out with Javy and hoping he regains his form as a 2-3 starter than they do from getting just above replacement level pitching from Mitre.

    The fact of the matter is that the Yankees should have picked up Javy today and they didn’t. Intentionally walking the go-ahead run on base is so incomprehensibly stupid that I cannot believe it happened. Let alone the consistent lack of faith that he’s shown in Robertson, which is incomprehensibly stupid in its own right.

  447. NYY85 May 2nd, 2010 at 5:50 am

    Has anyone seen how well Austin Jackson is performing? It’s a pitty they traded him, and now Curtis goes down, this is one trade i believe was a bust, the only thing that Curtis is better at than Austin is hitting HR….this was a wrong move by cashhh

  448. gyhu May 2nd, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Javier Vazquez 2010 == Chien-Ming Wang 2009

  449. jetsjetsjets May 2nd, 2010 at 7:47 am

    Why did Joe walk Quentin in the 7th yesterday? Has he been asked why he got in the way of another game?

    Damon/Jackson or Johnson/Granderson?????

    Why did Cashman get in the way with another roster?

    Hmmmm??

  450. GreenBeret7 May 2nd, 2010 at 8:22 am

    Since I’m new to posting on blogs, I have a serious question. Does whining really help when the Yankees lose? If it does, I’ll have to try it. I’m so tired of keeping a front up. I’d much rather be in the wrist slashing mode.

  451. Dave F May 2nd, 2010 at 8:36 am

    GreenBeret7,

    As you know the minors so well, who would you send up as an extra outfielder. Thanks

  452. Dave F May 2nd, 2010 at 8:37 am

    :arrow:

  453. GiantsCauseway May 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Javy, Marte, & Robertson could form a trio to sing the same sad song.

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