Pregame notes: Posada hoping for Friday
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on May 04, 2010 
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Jorge Posada said his sore right calf is still stiff. He’s out of the lineup as more than a precaution — he’s back to emergency catcher status the next few days — but he’s hopeful that he’ll be back in the lineup on Friday.
“They want me off my feet today,” Posada said. “Just treat it. Make it less stiff.”
Joe Girardi said the Yankees have enough confidence in Posada’s ability to catch in a pinch that they don’t think a catcher call-up will be necessary. For now, the team does not expect Posada to go on the disabled list, but he will basically be reevaluated on Thursday.
Posada felt “a little grab” on his way to first base during his second at-bat yesterday. He said that for now, the most difficult thing would be running. Someone suggested that he should just hit the ball over the fence any time he comes to the plate.
“It’s that easy,” Posada said.
• Mariano Rivera was unavailable yesterday because of a sore left side. He’s going to throw a bullpen today, and if he comes through that fine, he could be available tonight. “A lot of guys will throw a little short side and then pitch that day if they haven’t pitched in a while,” Girardi said. “That’s not totally unnormal. If we could, I’d like to stay away from him another day because, if a player deems himself ready, if you can give him an extra day, I don’t think it hurts him. But we’ll see.”
• Chan Ho Park has been playing catch in Tampa and he feels better. Park will throw off a half mound on Wednesday, then the Yankees plan to have him throw a full bullpen session on Friday. If that goes well, Park could make a rehab appearance next week. It’s still unclear how many rehab outings he would need, but Girardi said, “I don’t think one extended spring game is going to be enough.”
• Greg Golson said he thought a call-up was possible when Curtis Granderson went on the disabled list over the weekend, but when Mark Melancon got the call, “We all assumed that was the move,” Golson said. “Then after the game yesterday, they called me in and said I was coming to New York.” Golson still didn’t have a name plate above his locker when he got here this afternoon.
• Girardi said he might start Golson against some lefties. There was some consideration given to playing Golson today, “but I felt it was more important to DH Jeet,” Girardi said.
• Melancon has been optioned back to Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
• Javier Vazquez said he still wishes he weren’t being skipped next time around, but he understands why it’s happening. Asked whether the success of the other four starters adds or takes away pressure on Vazquez, Girardi said, ““I think he wants to join the party, but even if they weren’t throwing well, he might feel more pressure.”
• No Jeter injury, Girardi just wanted to give him a day off after so many days in a row. He said to expect more days like this as the team plays more and more days in a row.
• Girardi visited a fire station in the city this morning. He brought his ring for he firefighters to see. “It was the first time I really wore my ring,” Girardi said. I think some guys see this sort of thing as a chore, but Girardi seems to love it. The station got one call while he was there, and Girardi was amazed at how quickly everyone was out the door. He also put on the gear at one point. “It’s hot and it’s heavy, and it’s not even summertime,” Girardi said. “And I’m not in a burning building.”
• Random tidbit about Park throwing off the half mound: The Yankees use the half mound a lot, but I didn’t hear much about half mounds when I was covering the Phillies. Girardi said he had no idea what it meant when the Yankees told him Park would be throwing off a half mound tomorrow. “I didn’t know what half mound meant at first,” he said. “But I do now.”
UPDATE, 6:12 p.m.: Rivera said he felt good after a 10 or 15 pitch bullpen session. He thinks he could pitch if necessary, but he hasn’t been told whether he’ll be available. “It’s early in the season and we have to make smart decisions,” he said.
Orioles lineup
Adam Jones CF
Nick Markakis RF
Matt Wieters C
Miguel Tejada 3B
Ty Wigginton 2B
Luke Scott LF
Garrett Atkins DH
Rhyne Hughes 1B
Cesar Izturis SS
LHP Brian Matusz
Okay, so what is a half-mound?
Hope Po is back for the Sox series.
I’m looking forward to Park returning as I think the pen has missed his presence.
half mound is a Paula Dean baking measurement
Your welcome, Doreen! By the way, you are still doing a fantastic job with GTLU!
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Erica
That S word that you would appreciate if I didnt use…..the only meaning I intend by using it is “despicable person”. I hope you didnt think I meant any other meaning of the word.
“Nick Johnson is going to be very good.
He has had so many hard hit balls go right at people, his luck will turn around, and so too shall his confidence”
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yes.
to be honest, if a chart/analysis was done comparing Nick Johnson’s 2010 plate appearances versus Austin Jackson’s plate apparances, I wouldn’t be suprised if Nick Johnson actually had better At Bats. Seriously.
yet one player is batting .136 and the other .360. It is what bad/good luck and 1 month will do for statistics.
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Okay, so what is a half-mound?
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The difference between Kate Hudson pre-arod and now post-surgery
I’ll assume that’s a 3″ mound.
A 6″ mound cut into a half a circle probably doesn’t make too much sense.
Alternative punch lines:
The difference between Kate Hudson and Cameron Diaz, the Difference between Rachel Ray and Minka Kelly, etc
And if you look at that photo of Mo & Po very quickly you may think that Jorge is checking Mariano for a hernia.
Kruk is speaking with Kay right now.
Right away Kruk said the kid who was tasered at the Philly game last night
deserved it.
I have to agree with Kruk
Question is…Would they have tasered him if he was naked??
The kids parents basically agreed with the decision to taser him.
Don’t tase me bro!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Everyone, please visit the Yankees Lohud sister blog, Paws and Claws, all about animals…
http://pets.lohudblogs.com/
It could use some more faithful followers!
(repeating from the last thread)
I think there’s a better way to apprehend the kid. There were probably a good amount of children in the stands who saw it and don’t know the difference between getting shot and tasered.
The PD spokesperson and the Commish seem to be saying two different things. The commish said it was appropriate action because he “felt the officer had acted within the department’s guidelines, which allow officers to use Tasers to arrest fleeing suspects”.
The spokesperson wondered out loud whether the police should even be out there “wrangling fans who aren’t threatening anyone”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=5161474
Personally, I think the players need to be protected, but I’m sure they can find people to discern between fanatics and people who are armed and dangerous.
Anyone want to play “GTAJ”?
“Guess the AJ”, if you haven’t figured it out…
1st inning: Slightly bad AJ
2nd inning: Good AJ
1st inning: Good AJ
4th inning: Good AJ
5th: Slightly bad AJ
6th: Good AJ
7th: Tiring AJ
m -
I just watched the video of the incident. It’s disturbing. From afar, you can’t tell that it’s a taser and not a gun. Until the kid gets up, you think he’s been shot.
What did they do before tasers?
“There were probably a good amount of children in the stands who saw it and don’t know the difference between getting shot and tasered.”
And a teaching moment is born.
Don’t think anyone will be running out onto the field for a week or so.
“What did they do before tasers?”
Chased them around the field, tackled them and dragged them off the field.
Ledger_Yankees Mo says pen went well, thinks he could pitch today. But he doesn’t know whether he’s been cleared to go.
1 minute ago via TweetDeck
“And a teaching moment is born.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSYlxzCHvKg
Doreen
I would think that the blame should be placed on the fan not the police. If the fan didn’t run on the field ( which is clearly against the rules of the stadium) the children wouldn’t have seen that.
Forget about the potential danger of a fan having a weapon (which is extremely hard to discern), it’s when security is tasked with having to physically “capture” a fan on the field that it becomes a farce, and the very reason it’s done in the first place. So the fan can elude security for a few moments and the crowd starts to get involved.
i don’t care what it looks like from afar. It’s a sound deterrent, the point of which is something you won’t have to do very often.
the police/security was well within their rights to give the kid a taser. the rules are clear, DO NOT RUN on the field.
back in the day the perp was tackled and carried off the field.
this is the 21st century-technology has advanced. tasers or rubber bullets should be used to stop the felon from running any further.
Running on to the field is a felony?
I think the taser sets a good precedent. Don’t run out on the field.
if a person doesn’t want to get tasered, don’t run onto the field. Pretty simple.
there is a difference between being a decent person and being subjected to harassment from overzealous traffic cops, airport personel, border/customs agents, etc. These type of matters are widespread, unconstitutional, and uncalled for.
conversely, decent people don’t run onto baseball/football fields in the middle of a sporting event.
m – most places charge you with trespassing at least, i know at least 1 person that is never allowed back in citifield, in addition to having been arrested.
Say it’s a 13 year old kid. Think they use the taser?
how quickly the public forgets about the father/son that ran onto the field and attacked a 1st base umpire(laz diaz).
there is no guarantee the kid last night was not going to harm someone.
so yes, treat him like a felon and taser the perp or shoot rubber bullets at him, etc….
Felony Trespass?
People have gotten their season tickets revoked/been banned for less. That’s pretty much a given.
M- If the kid is 13, taser him. Is security suppose to check the perp’s ID before acting?
i don’t think so.
Is security supposed to confirm the kid has facial hair before acting?
i don’t think so.
if a fan wants to run onto the field, he/she is subject to being treated with force, including a taser to the back.
m:
I respectfully disagree
1) Yes, it’s a teachable moment. (Even his father told him not to do it).
2) Fans are warned before the game and sometimes during the game not to throw things onto the field and not to go on the field. (The lawyer in me thinks that maybe they should also be warned that Police are armed with Tasers, but I digress). The Philly boob was warned like everyone else by Public Address announcement before the game and or the fine print on his ticket/license plus warning signs around the stadium. The gist of it is that he knew that he would be arrested if he went on to the field and when you are being arrested you must comply with the lawful orders of the police or face separate charges relating to your resisting or failing to comply with an order to stop. To stop you the police may use whatever force is reasonable and necessary under the circumstances.
3) What force was necessary? A Taser properly used is not deadly physical force. IMO, it was reasonable force under the circumstances. Why should the game be delayed until the idiot runs out of steam and “allows” himself to be caught? Why should a cop be forced to endure the indignity of chasing this idiot around to collar him?
4) Why should players be concerned even for a moment that they are not secure? See, e.g., Monica Seles and this lovely story of a father and son at a baseball game:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....itesox_ap/
5) MLB cannot dictate what efforts local police employ to make a venue safe and secure. Selig is powerful, but it does not extend to directing the various police departments. Local PDs re stuck with the job and with that responsibility comes discretion on how to maintain law and order.
m
Can a 13 yr old have a gun or knife?
Haha not you fat Jesus, slide it on back
Love that movie
puking guy shoulda been tased
Why does anybody feel sorry for the person who committed the crime?
The victim is not really a victim. He broke the law and was punished for it.
He chose to break the law.
He chose to run around like a fool, pretending to be the center of the universe and more important than the game.
Guess what? He was wrong and was taken down.
Bravo to security for firing the taser!
“i don’t care what it looks like from afar. It’s a sound deterrent, the point of which is something you won’t have to do very often.”
This type of reasoning can lead you down a very dangerous slippery slope when it comes to the amount of force a police officer is permitted to use.
LGY – They do hand the taser to the cops, because he is allowed to use it.
I agree that tasering is an excellent deterrant, I just think they could have apprehended the suspect in another manner.
They claim the taser is the best method, but I just think the cops don’t want to run around the field.
“how quickly the public forgets about the father/son that ran onto the field and attacked a 1st base umpire”
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I didn’t forget.
that is the darkest scene, have ever seen take place on a baseball field. 2 complete animals.
from a personal level, it permanently imprinted/etched a negative view of that particular stadium and fan base.
Run on the field you get tasered. Seems fair to me.
You don’t belong on the field. You run on the field, do it at your own peril.
Personally, I don’t think tasering him was enough.
They should have beat the snot out of him once they got him off the field and showed it on the big screen.
That would make people think twice before running on the field.
m – they are doing their jobs… and i’ll be damned if i don’t do my job the most efficient way possible
murphydog -
But your “digression” is important.
However, I think now most fans will know that tasers will be used. Should be a deterrent.
I am in no way defending the fan who ran on the field when I observe that the video was disturbing. It was.
Leaving work.
Bye for now!
I think that young man got what he deserved.
KC 1b coach
Tom,
I agree that cops are permitted to use tasers. Police officers have a lot of things at their disposal, but they cannot wield these things freely.
I have not weighed in on either side of this issue. Just on that specific justification.
LGY
I know it’s different here in rural Maine than in NYC, but I’ve always felt if you don’t do things againts the law usually the police aren’t much of a problem.
JackCurryYES It’s never too early to deal. Teams have called Yankees and described their needs, but Cashman has told them he’s not dealing right now.
Well that first part was worded poorly because it does not matter if I agree.
*Cops are permitted to use tasers.*
Greg Golson wearing #27 according to mlb.com
those shirtless fools in Wrigley didn’t attack Laz Diaz, they attacked Royals first base coach Tom Gamboa.
gutless cowards…still makes my blood boil.
I have no problem with the police – the kid was breaking the law and he got appropriately punished. Don’t break the law, and you’re ok.
I got very lucky today. On my way home from work I got pulled over by a cop for speeding. After sort of scolding me (a little) for going way too fast (which I was), he took my license and registration. I didn’t argue with him at all – I had a long, tiring day and was just ready to take my punishment. When he came back, he asked if I knew how many points this would be on my license. I told him that I didn’t know; he said a LOT and it was a huge fine – plus, obviously, my insurance would have gone up. Fortunately, he let me go….
Erin -
What does that mean? Who are they asking for? Tweeting info like that is just irresponsible!!!
Cash,
If you hear GGBG, Hughes, or Aceves. HANG UP.
(dam u Javy, we coulda dealt Serg)
Erin, thanks!
It might have been the Sox calling about Montero……..
Tasers didn’t exist back when streakers ventured on the field.
Doreen – GTLU Standings, Updates, Calendar & Rules May 4th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Erin -
What does that mean? Who are they asking for? Tweeting info like that is just irresponsible!!!
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Doreen, I have no idea.
Info’s a little lacking in that one.
“those shirtless fools in Wrigley didn’t attack Laz Diaz, they attacked Royals first base coach Tom Gamboa”
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it wasn’t at Wrigley.
It took place at the White Sox stadium.
they don’t call it “the cell” for nothing.
“What force was necessary? A Taser properly used is not deadly physical force. ”
A baton properly used also isn’t deadly force. One can quickly knock down someone running onto the field with a baton strike to the knees for example.
To my knowledge a fan running onto a field has never been hit with an implement like a baton.
Beating by baton would be a very visual deterrent and would send a message to others not to run on the field.
Baton have been around for ages. There’s nothing high tech about them. Yet no one thought to use them to subdue fans? That seems curious why no one would have done that prior.
It would hasten the fan coming under control rapidly. It would in theory make it safer for the person subduing the fan as well. Not as safe as a taser but safer nonetheless.
So for several decades stadiums have been secured inappropriately, it would seem, if the taser is now an appropriate implement.
Betsy
I bet you batted your eyes at him.
correction: it wasn’t Wrigley, it was in Comiskey Park.
Maine, lol – I was way too tired to even bat my eyes. I was in a very melancholy mood – maybe he took pity on me, lol. If so, I appreciate it – but I definitely didn’t do that on purpose, lol
top 10 altercations w/fans (some of these are actually kind of funny, I mean who takes on an entire bench of hockey players???):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQZeh3t0VsQ
murphydog,
You are a criminal defense lawyer correct?
I am quite surprised that you would think the force was necessary under the circumstances.
Judging from a circumstances I cannot imagine a reasonable police officer concluding this teenager posed a threat to anyone. And he had nowhere to go so it was impossible to flee.
Resuming a baseball game as quickly as possible is quite a low priority compared to the potential danger a taser can cause and the ramifications of police officers being able to use them in pretty much any circumstance
CB you are very persuasive.
to all
Imagine the discussion if the kid had a heart attack -which is possible.
I’m not ready to say the Police acted excessivly, just pointing out that tasers can really hurt people.
will they change policy?
“Why should players be concerned even for a moment that they are not secure? See, e.g., Monica Seles and this lovely story of a father and son at a baseball game:”
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Despite people idolizing professional baseball players, they should not get any type of special protection.
The attack on the 1st base coach was a single and terrible incident in a long history of baseball.
I saw Eric Byrnes take out a guy in RF in Oakland once.
Looked like he had a good time doing it too. He didn’t need no stinkin taser!
I think they should have used a “phaser” set to “stun” on the kid.
Guaranteed knockdown power and no harm done.
“Baton have been around for ages. There’s nothing high tech about them. Yet no one thought to use them to subdue fans? That seems curious why no one would have done that prior.”
It isn’t curious, it’s entirely logical.
The REASON a taser exists is because it performs a similar but more efficient function as a baton, but by a safer distance for the wielder.
Any time you’re in close enough proximity to effectively use a baton, you’re at a far greater risk of handful weapons, or even fists, feet and even heads used as blunt instruments.
Batons and tasers aren’t imperfect comparison for this reason.
Yes, in bygone years perhaps security forces didn’t concern themselves with these things out of lack of options, but it also probably didn’t occur to them to have to concerns themselves with the multitude of things used as weapons society now forces us consider.
“So for several decades stadiums have been secured inappropriately, it would seem, if the taser is now an appropriate implement.”
Is that really so hard to imagine? I think “security” is a concept that will rarely every reach a state of perfection.
“conversely, decent people don’t run onto baseball/football fields in the middle of a sporting event.”
Who decides what people are “decent”? Is this a moral standard or a regulated standard? What if the police officer mistakes a decent person for a nondecent person?
Are the police officers supposed to find out who is decent and then taser them or do we need the SC to weigh in on who qualifies as “decent”?
What rights do “decent” people get?
A person running around can have a heart attack all by themselves. Would the police be liable for that?
I’m no lawyer, but I’ve always thought that cops could use whatever force was reasonable and necessary to arrest someone resisting. That’s what I was taught when growing up, and have seen nothing to contradict that.
murphydog, what do you think?
Is this kid actually being portrayed as someone that did not deserve the taser?
I don’t buy it.
He deserved the taser and then some.
LGY-Whether you like it or not, professional baseball players will continue to receive special treatment.
Ranging from a police escort from the team hotel to the field and having security on the field that has a taser on his/her hip
Using a taser on him wasn’t good enough. The minute the idiot took off running, they should have shot him in the leg. It’d make him easier to catch the next time that he decides to tresspass.
Hey, what are you doing with that club?….Its not a club its a baton…..what do you do with a baton?…..I club people!