Andy Pettitte MRI results
Andy Pettitte pitched only five innings and threw only 77 pitches against the Orioles today, and the reason he checked out early was stiffness just above the back of his left elbow. Pettitte went for an MRI. The Yankees said that it showed mild inflammation of the elbow. They said he will be treated conservatively and be evaluated daily at this point. Joe Girardi had already pushed his next start back, to Tuesday in Detroit – now in question – in part because this isn’t the first arm problem the 38-year-old has had recently.
It turns out that he also had stiffness warming up for his last start against the White Sox, but that was on the top of his forearm. He didn’t feel during that start after a trainer rubbed it out.
He also felt stiffness warming for this latest start. So the Yankees kept checking with him after each inning.
“Any time you’re talking about the area around the elbow, you start to worry a little bit,” Pettitte said through a team spokesman before the results came back.





ACK !
SI Cover Jinx has hit 3/4. Oh noes! Better keep Jeter out of the lineup for a lil while
I hate Sports Illustrated.
Make an appointment to see dr andrews.
which is more amazing:
the fact that they keep on piling up injuries
or
that they keep on piling up wins?
Others have to step if he’s out that’s all. Injuries, if this is one, happen. Keep playing and keep executing.
NO! I was looking forward to his 30 win, 2.0 ERA season.
Can SI just put the entire 2010 Red Sox roster on the cover next month?
I don’t get why the Yankees even pitched Andy knowing he had this issue…..
Mo, Posada and now Andy. The idea of both Vazquez and Mitre in the rotation scares the living hell out of me.
I don’t think it was an issue when he started the game, it must have flared up in between innings or while he was on the mound. He sounds optimistic about it, so it sounds like it isn’t as bad as everyone first feared. If anything, this just underscores how important it is for Vazquez to get his head on straight and to start piling up the innings as the now number 5 starter on the team. Hopefully the arm stiffness is just a byproduct of Andy being 38 years old and nothing more serious than that.
Let’s wait and see on the MRI before we schedule an appointment with Dr. Andrews….
Javy, you can step up and be Willis Reed.
Well it WAS a great season!
GET AUSTIN JACKSON BACK!!
the core four is all wrinkled up and dying, the yankees are in deep poo poo
Austin Jackson the pitcher?
lol people panicing, go figure. Only 19-8… half game back best record in baseball. relax
Does Girardi really think it’ll be fine or is that yet another lie????
at this age, andy’s next pitch could be his last.
And I don’t care if it was Pettitte who said he thinks it’ll be fine, he’s just taking cues from that liar guy Giradi!
Let’s remain hopeful. Andy thinks it’s fine. It’ll be fine. A missed start or 2 isnt the end of the world. The Yankees were smartly monitoring it all day, and probably took him out with very little stiffness as a precautionary measure.
He’ll be fine!
From previous thread:
“If Girardi has determined what role to put Marte in to give him the best chance to succeed and the rest of the bullpen to be effective, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.”
I don’t know, stuckey, Joe took out Marte and put in D-Rob…
Seriously, I don’t see this as a Girardi criticism, just saying where I see the bullpen having to go with D-Rob and Logan being ineffective.
# Evan May 5th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
at this age, andy’s next pitch could be his last.
panic much? wow
I see that Belleview is missing a few of their juvenile patients. They must have gotten loose during the paste and crayon eating contests.
Um, if there was a problem then wouldn’t Andy’s 77th pitch today be his last?
Why did Evan show up all of a sudden anyway?
Damn. I was hoping he came out early so that Mitre could get an audition to possibly replace Vasquez. I was hoping for the best. Keeping my fingers crossed…,
time to call in Dr Anthony Galea for some “blood spinning”.
does anyone really think that Andy would be out there if he thought there was a problem that could end his career or season? Why would he take that risk? He’s a pitcher, they deal with pain all the time and know what is manageable and what isn’t. He’s had a bad elbow and surgery before, no one is more aware of the issue than him.
GreenBeret7 May 5th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
I see that Belleview is missing a few of their juvenile patients. They must have gotten loose during the paste and crayon eating contests.
………………………………
Hilarious
Bellevue may need to add another wing to accomodate.
I think the bullpen will be reshuffled.
Ace and Joba will setup Mo.
Wave is right, Marte has to take on a bigger role.
He’s a veteran guy and is more than just a lefty specialist.
Logan can’t throw the ball over the plate and Robertson is a liabilty right now.
Giving them more batters in high leverage situations than Marte makes little sense at this point.
They definitely need Park back soon.
To take our minds off Andy’s arm, how about some fun?
These are the questions from an anonymous player poll at espn.com. It’s Insider, so I don’t know the results, but at least they can be some conversation starters.
Questions
1. Who is MLB’s best player?
2. Which city has the best groupies?
3. How many games should teams play?
4. Who will win the World Series?
5. How many players still take PEDs?
6. Which pitcher has the nastiest stuff?
7. What is the best franchise?
8. How many players cheat on their wives?
9. Should Barry Bonds be in the Hall of Fame?
10. Would you prefer a World Series or MVP award?
11. Do language barriers affect play?
12. What’s MLB’s most overrated stat?
13. How good of a commish is Bud Selig?
14. Do people try to get betting info from you?
15. DH or no DH?
16. Who is the best manager?
17. Do you stare at women in the crowd?
18. Do you own a gun?
19. How would you react to a gay teammate?
20. Who’s the last guy you’d fight on the field?
If Andy misses time, it’s not going to be unexpected or a surprise. The team is designed to withstand his loss.
These injuries are just realities the yankees have to live with. They are part of the risk the team carries by relying on older player to occupy central roles on those teams.
All of those players are performing a extremely high levels – all four are almost in peak form.
But that level of performance doesn’t alter their underlying risk.
And who wins over a grueling 162 game schedule isn’t only the “best” team, it’s the team that manages to either get very fortunate or stratifies it’s risk appropriately.
The yankees tried to stratify risk this off season by acquiring Granderson and deepening the rotation with Vazquez.
What so great about this team is how its different dimensions complement each other. The offense isn’t fully clicking yet as Tex and Alex still aren’t hitting as we know they will. But that hasn’t slowed the team at all because the rotation has been so great.
The 40 year old closer goes down with a minor issue and Joba is there. Posada goes down with a calf strain and Cervelli is there.
The yankees anticipated and planned for something like Andy getting injured. It’s why they traded for Vazquez.
If Andy misses time they can make up for his absence by the offense hopefully turning it up and using Mitre.
But the way the team was designed the risk related to a starter getting hurt – especially Andy given his age and recent injury history – was to have Vazquez in place and providing quality length.
And that’s what Vazquez needs to provide now.
The headline is speculative. We don’t know if Pettitte is injured.
Why don’t we try the rational approach and just see what the test results show before we jump to any conclusions.
Since Vasquez is pitching like a total loser these days, a DL stint for Pettitte–and a significant injury, especially–would be a big blow. Neither Siergio Mitre nor Al Aceves is a viable option should the Yanks need to replace Pettitte in the rotation. Aceves is a pretty reliable middle reliever, but he’s a once-around-the-order kind of guy, not someone who you can rely on to give you 6-7 innings at a time. Mitre just stinks and I have no idea why he’s on the roster. Sure, he can look good sometimes, but more often he’s horrible. Mark Melancon’s been up and down, but, at least he has some significant upside potential.
The Yanks don’t have any good-looking AAA options in the event that Andy loses time. Ivan Nova has, by all reports, looked very good in AAA. But I have no idea about his levels of confidence and maturity. Zach McAllister opened the 2010 season with every scout saying he was virtually big league ready. But he’s looked terrible so far this season. Jason Hirsch was once a real prospect and has looked great in his last two starts, but his ML record is awful.
Hey, maybe, if Pettitte is DL’d, the Yanks can trade Vasquez for Oliver Perez and the switch in teams will help to turn both of their careers around. That’d be fun.
I see the sky is falling crowd is out in force. Lets wait to hear the MRI results before we freak out. The Yankees are likely being overly cautious given Andy issues in the past.
cool story about Farnsworth being voted ‘The Baddest Man in Baseball’ by his peers:
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=5159572
I’d post it, but it’s very lengthy.
Dude really is a black belt. A serious bad ass…
Madrid have won to keep the pressure on Barca!
“They definitely need Park back soon.”
It’s funny to think back to all of the discussion when Park came on board about why the team signed him, he wasn’t necessary, he wasn’t that good, etc.
He was a very good signing and one that came comparatively cheaply.
Marte is a match up pitcher. When he first got traded to the yanks people were complaining that Girardi leaves him in too long. He is better only facing a couple of hitters. You leave him in a inning or two you will get burned.
Girardi did nothing wrong with how he handled the bullpen considering he had no Joba and Mo and his starter got hurt and left the game. He wanted Robertson to finish the game. But he is struggling right now so he had to use Logan and Aceves.
Right now when the yanks have a lead it should be Rivera in the 9th, Chamberlain in th 8th and Aceves/Marte depending on the matchups in the 7th.
We escaped damaging injuries last season. We were very lucky. Boston’s dealing with injuries, too. I think we can manage.
Gardner and Cervelli have notably picked up their game. And NJ & Tex are coming around. Hughes has been Phenomenal.
If the guys pick up their game, we can survive the injuries. Unfortunately, there’s a greater sense of urgency re: Javy.
we have Mitre, Joba, and Ivan Nova in AAA. Not worried if andy goes down. Joba is wasted in the pen anyway.
CR9-
Did you watch the game? Your guy was spectacular. By far the best player on the pitch. He carried madrid. One of the best games I’ve seen him play in Spain.
He is a very hungry player who really wants to win. He’s like Messi and Rooney in that regard. His play is very different than his public image.
What was Man U thinking? He is a franchise player, one you just can’t replace regardless of the transfer fee.
He came out of the gate fast this year, after not throwing a lot of regular innings in ST. Maybe this has something to do with that.
How long before the Yankees management says “oops” to the Austin Jackson trade?
No disrespect to Granderson, and I am not saying this because he is injured, but Jackson looks like a solid pro.
We only need Park back if he is going to pitch well. We don’t know that he will.
I think we need to give Melancon a shot.
Yeah, Chamberlain was really wasted in the last two games with Rivera not available. Before you come back, go get a board game named “Clue” and practice.
Does anyone really think the Yanks ever had any intentions of going w/an unproven rookie in CF?
Really? Seriously, does anyone really believe that?
If so, I’ve got some property I’d like to sell you.
z,
I believe they should have.
They’ve gone with some rookie unproven pitchers recently and that worked out pretty well. (until they completely screwed one)
And no I do not want your property.
I don’t think Jackson would’ve been an opening day starter. No way.
This wouldn’t be such a concern if we were getting some output from Javy Whitson.
Somehow I think the professionals over at the Yankees know much more than the posters on this blog. Even if Andy wound up on the DL for 15 days and missed 4 starts, do you really think it would make that much difference in the overall record at the end of season? But there are bridges out there, jump if you will.
“I don’t think Jackson would’ve been an opening day starter. No way.”
Way…if he had a torrid ST, he may have beaten out Gardner.
Ok, so Jackson doesn’t open the year in center field.
They go with Thames, Winn, Swisher, Gardner and bring Jackson up later.
I’m just saying they had to believe he is more than a trade piece. He is extremely talented.
I would not be so pessimistic. There is always Igawa. Mitre was at one point a starting candidate. There are reliever options in Scranton. Nova is also an option. Let’s not panic. Look how the team is doing so far without Grandy, Jorge, CHoP, Javy, NJ struggling (til today) and A-Rod struggling.
the Yankees said in ST that Marte is a lefty specialist, so that tells you something……Marte hasn’t been good either. We need Park back…
Jackson wouldn’t have even been considered to start in the yankees outfield this season.
He had a very poor second half of his season in AAA and struggled a great deal down the stretch.
And in addition, an outfield of Gardner, Jackson and Swisher would have projected to hit around 45 home runs total and two of the player would have had non-trivial risks for performing at replacement level offensively.
There’s no way the yankees could have played that outfield while trying to win a world series.
Murph, How are things going down at the looneybin? Must be fun trying to round up all of the more “stellar citizens”.
I agree with your point on Pettitte’s short spring. Is it a case of just a tired arm? That’s usually higher up, but, where Girardi was pointing to the back of the bicep and not the elbow. If anybody knows about early elbow troubles, it’s Eiland.
to answer m’s survey
1. Albert Pujols/ Roy Halladay
2. Possibly San Diego
3. I have no problem with 162
4. Yankees if they stay healthy
5. Very few, at this point its just dumb
6. Ubaldo Jimenez
7. The franchise probably set up for the most future success is the Baltimore Orioles or Tampa Bay Rays. But right now, gotta go with the WS champs!
8. Sadly probably about 70%
9. YES
10. World Seires
11. I think so, but its possible to get around them
12. Wins or batting average
13. Hes ok
14. Yes
15. At this point both leagues should have one
16. Mike Scioscia
17. Sometimes
18. No
19. I’d support his courage coming out
20. Jayson Werth
Rich, you are iffy on Park, but you want Melancon to get another shot? I don’t get that one, I admit it.
get through these next three weeks (rays,twins,fenway,detroit) and the schedule is smooth sailing until mid-september (at which time the race may be over).
“There’s no way the yankees could have played that outfield while trying to win a world series.”
They would have made another OF move if they didn’t trade for Granderson, but my point is that if A-Jack wasn’t traded, there was a way that he could have won a starting job.
Oh god no…
I’m going to think positive- if Andy has to miss just a few starts, we can deal with that, but regardless – Javy has to step up. HOwever, given that he’s all messed up mechanically and mentally, it’s expecting a lot for him to be lights out on Monday.
Back to whining about not having Austin Jackson, again? Gardner has been just as productive as Jackson with considerably fewer at bats. The outfield is not an issue right now. They’re getting plenty of production out there.
Betsy
Why? Melancon has been well thought of by the Yankees since he was drafted, yet he has never had an extended shot in the ML pen as a one inning reliever (it seems his problems in NY start in his second IP).
I don’t think it’s necessarily Park OR Melancon, they may need both given the current shortcomings in the pen.
My point, however, is that we don’t know that Park will pitch well.
Update (5:04 p.m.): Not to get everyone’s hopes up, but Dave Eiland just said “it’s no concern,” a half dozen times during his media meeting.
http://riveraveblues.com/
“Back to whining about not having Austin Jackson, again? ”
Hardly, I’m merely answering a hypothetical. I’m glad you’re coming around on Gardner.
Other day, other Yankee injury. What else is new.
At this rate, the Red Sox will overtake us by next week.
If anything, the worst they would’ve gone with is Cabrera, Gardner, Swisher. No Jackson in that equation.
is there any contingency plan other than “insert meat-tray”?
Rich, and we don’t know that Melancon will; I’m not high on him at all. I have a lot more faith in Park…
The issue I was responding to was both Jackson and Gardner starting in the same outfield which was the context of the prior discussion.
That said, Jackson was unlikely to start for the yankees based on how poorly he did the second half of last season in AAA. I believe Mark Newman said something to that effect in an interview before the granderson trade – that the yankees weren’t considering jackson as a potential starter for 2010 and that they envisioned him coming back to AAA. They still viewed him as raw and learning.
He was pretty bad for much of the second half of 2009.
Sure it’s theoretically possible that he could have won a spot, but it was very unlikely they would have either done that or even have structured the competition for the job in a way that would have given him a shot.
Betsy
Right. I would just like for him to get a prolonged opportunity.
How can the sox over take us?? Think a bit
If Melancon gets another chance, so be it – but I’ve not been impressed.
Marte had one bad outing but that’s about it and got key outs the past two games, why think he isn’t doing the job? He was incredible in the playoffs last year and his stuff last night looked great striking out Wieters (I didn’t see todays game but he struck out Markakis, a tough out).
“That said, Jackson was unlikely to start for the yankees based on how poorly he did the second half of last season in AAA”
To call it unlikely is reasonable. I thought m’s characterization of his chances as “no way” was not accurate.
I’m at the stadium as we speak working the writers don’t think its that serious of an ‘injury’.
Its not a concern apparently but precaution must be taken.
BloggingBombers MRI on Pettitte revealed mild inflammation of his left elbow. It will be treated conservatively and will be evaluated on a daily basis.
JMK,
I think they meant overtake us in injury reports.
So what’s austin jackson up to now? .450 ?
Mild inflamation-per espn
New Post-Pettitte update
Erin with the clutch update.
even best case scenario, Pettitte is out two turns of the rotation. 10 days.
And let’s not even mention that A-Rod is not 100% either.
He has hit 2 HRs so far. When is the last time he hit 2 HRs in a month? 1994?
He’s either injured or father time caught up to him quickly…
No, but, Jackson will have about 450 strikeouts if he doesn’t get that problem fixed. That’s a lot of rally killers, because he’s not going to hit .370 all year. Good player, but, not that good.
Rich,
How about “No way, Jose”?
You’re right. It was superfluous. But the Yankees don’t generally hand out jobs to rookies out of camp.
There’s no way anyone (including the Tigers) could have guessed that Jackson would be so high on the stat leaderboards. Except Leland who may have sold his soul for smokes and a killer CF.
I’m happy for Jackson, he’s opened a lot of eyes (including the Yankees).
But at the time, that trade was a no-brainer. In fact the biggest regret at the time was losing some High-A ball pitcher.
And based on how the Yankees operate, I think he would’ve been a bench player to open 2010 were he to have remained with the Yankees.
‘But the way the team was designed the risk related to a starter getting hurt – especially Andy given his age and recent injury history – was to have Vazquez in place and providing quality length.
And that’s what Vazquez needs to provide now.’
Question: If by June Vazquez is NOT straightened out, how would you rate the Yankees’ odds of making the postseason, with the preemptive agreement their odds are GREATER with an effective Vazquez?
Pettitte has a mild inflammation of elbow with conservative treatment. May miss next start.
Yankees lost both their catchers last year and Cervelli stepped up.
Yanks lost Nady last year and Swisher stepped up.
Yankees couldn’t find an effective 5th starter last year and they managed to win around it.
Marte went down early and out of literally nowhere, Phil Hughes stepped in to become arguably the best reliever in baseball.
Veras and Ramirez spit the bit and guys like Robertson and Aceves stepped up.
Gardner was thought to be this year’s weak link and for 27 games now he’s only behind Cano in terms of picking up a good portion of the offense that hasn’t performed.
Thames was supposed to be the guy that almost got beat out by Weber in spring training, and he’s been a huge plus.
I see all this talk about who do you trust and can this and this player step in and perform and I genuinely wonder how some of you miss the baseball happening all around you all the time.
The is what baseball is – unexpected heroes and goats, players doing things you can’t understand and others doing things you never expected.
The Yankees are a deep team, and to a degree a deep organization and even deeper resources.
Players you expected little from ARE going to “surprise” you. It happens EVERY year, which makes you wonder how much of a “surprise” it should really be.
The team’s lowpoint in 16 years has been 89 wins, and most years (and likely this one) that will get you to the post-season. And THIS team is far, FAR deeper than the ’08 team.
Outta of guys like Melancon, Mitre, Hirsch, Nova, hell, even Albaladejo, some of them are going to perform and play a bigger and better role than you anticipate.
In fact, being surprised by someone stepping up is pretty much one of the surest things you can count on.
Joba has three plus pitches. Fastball,Slider,Curve. If you are watching the games this year you have seen his hook is sick. Melancon,Aceves,Marte,Logan. can all be used in set up roles. Logan throws harder than joba for all you fireball fans. Joba was a very dominate starting pitcher before Torre threw him into the pen. Joba can be a very good 5th,
CC
AJ
Hughes
Javey
Joba.
moron.
AJax btw in his last 10 games has gone 14-42/4 doubles/1triple/1HR/11runs/4 walks/4ks/2sbs
seems like he’s made an adjustment to cutdown on his strikeouts by swinging his bat and not taking so many called strike 3′s….
Andy’s been thru this before, most likely with some time off he’ll be alright. They paid $11.5m for Vasquez it’s simply time for him to show up. I’m hopeful he will. Mitre will step in at No 5, he did it last year with mixed results. If the bats heat up, it looks like Johnson and Tex are coming around and hopefully Arod will heat up the Yanks can still win their share of games. They must and will take their time with Andy, it’s way to early to push him, we need him for October.
Some good old fashioned country medicine such as Iodine, apple cider vinegar and raw honey. All chock full of vitamins and will reduce the inflammation. Older players break down, unless they do a kick-ass whole nutrition approach.